1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: I've been told by be Oddit that Ed Sharon has 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:04,840 Speaker 1: arrived and is in the building. 3 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 2: So excited, I know, very exciting. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 5 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: He was on American Idol last night. Talked him about that, 6 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: and you guys were there too. Everybody was there. It's funny. 7 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 1: I walked out and I saw a sign that said 8 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 1: Seacrest and I thought, oh my gosh, after all these years, 9 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: a fan has come, someone who listens to the show, 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: has made their way, has gotten tickets and is there. 11 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:31,000 Speaker 1: Turns out it was Chewie Martinez and the kids. 12 00:00:31,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 4: We had made the sign yeads with your names, and. 13 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, we can busy making signs for your kids over 14 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:39,960 Speaker 2: the weekend, you know, the start of the week. 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:44,200 Speaker 4: No, no, no, so yeah. 16 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 2: Even Georgia loves the sign. 17 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 4: Georgia welcome Ed Sharon. 18 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 3: Come on, how are you? 19 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: We were just talking about you? How about ye hi? Everybody? 20 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: Uh so Ed has a run and has arrived here 21 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: a show Ed has thrown over there live shore. So 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: we are on live just just to be because yesterday 23 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: Pressed I drink a gown of I love that. Yesterday 24 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: before Idle we went through words you can't say on TV, 25 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 1: and he had a very funny joke which we can't 26 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:16,119 Speaker 1: make here. 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, but it was it was candid DG cheering. 28 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I have I have a like arsenal of 29 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 5: dad jokes now that actually I have one that I 30 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 5: can say on here. 31 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 2: Okay, great, what. 32 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,040 Speaker 6: Did the DJ call his son? 33 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: What did the DJ case. 34 00:01:31,640 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: Er? 35 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,600 Speaker 2: Have you used that before? And is it get laugh 36 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 2: every time? 37 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 4: No? 38 00:01:35,319 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 6: Really, it's definitely. That's definitely in the dad jokes. 39 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:41,039 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, good morning, good to see you. What's going on? 40 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 5: Yes, it's nice, yeah, nice to be here. Yesterday was 41 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 5: really cool for me. Man, I've never actually sat in 42 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 5: a judge's chair on talent. I mean, I've got I've 43 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 5: played the show's you know, talent shows like that before, 44 00:01:51,400 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 5: and in the sound check I'll go and sit in 45 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,240 Speaker 5: the judges chair and take a picture and be like, 46 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 5: I've never actually sat in a judge's chair before. 47 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 6: So it's like it's really nice. There's such talent to people. 48 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean, you know what's interesting is that And if 49 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: if you've seen American Al this season, you know, if 50 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: you haven't, you know, check it out, because these are 51 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:11,600 Speaker 1: contestants that were i mean one was working on machinery, 52 00:02:11,639 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: one was fixing and air conditioning not too long ago. 53 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:17,119 Speaker 1: And there they are standing on that stage singing, I mean, singing. 54 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: Your lyrics, watching. 55 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: You who wrote those songs, yea, watching them sing those songs, 56 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:25,519 Speaker 1: but not only as soloists, as duets. And and I 57 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,359 Speaker 1: acstually about a little bit last night, but when you 58 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,519 Speaker 1: were driving away thinking about that, what was that dynamic 59 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: truly like for you? 60 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 5: Well, I just I don't listen to my own music, 61 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 5: so I don't hear those songs. 62 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 6: Like every single day. 63 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 2: You mean you don't like I won't just. 64 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 6: Be in the car and play yeah Divide. 65 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 5: And you know, I obviously play the songs every weekend 66 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 5: when I do these shows, but seeing people cover them 67 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 5: is so lovely because people always have a different take 68 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,240 Speaker 5: and spin on it. And I also I was sitting 69 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 5: like to Luke yesterday and he was showing me the 70 00:02:58,040 --> 00:02:59,960 Speaker 5: cards of who they were and where they're from. 71 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 6: They're so young, like seventeen and eighteen. It's bad. 72 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: I ian teenager, and yeah, the Country Voice is really 73 00:03:07,639 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: really young. 74 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 5: Team really yeah, And I really feel what I was 75 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 5: saying to them yesterday is like, whoever wins, it's obviously 76 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 5: a big deal for whoever wins. But just to be 77 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 5: at that point in the show where you were having 78 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,040 Speaker 5: twenty three million people vote every week, that's. 79 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 6: Such a great launch pad for them. 80 00:03:21,280 --> 00:03:22,880 Speaker 5: They can just come off the show, like the three 81 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:24,839 Speaker 5: people that came off the show yesterday, can come off 82 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 5: heats held high and walk straight into a career and 83 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 5: just work. 84 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 1: Well, you know, Ed was talking them before the show, 85 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: and I think that was the advice you were giving. 86 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: You were saying, like, you know, you're here, you did 87 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 1: you did it like you did something massive. Now it's 88 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 1: what you do immediately after. 89 00:03:38,120 --> 00:03:39,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean not rushing. 90 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 5: I mean Harry Stars was you know, he's arguably one 91 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 5: of the biggest stars, well the biggest artists in the world, 92 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 5: and he came off a talent show and didn't come first. 93 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 6: He made it like a good point. 94 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: You know, and he Yeah, you think that was hard 95 00:03:55,160 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: to wait, or you think he knew what he was doing. 96 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think he knew what he was doing. 97 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 5: He knew because you know, he learned how to play guitar, 98 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 5: he learned how to write songs, and he's become fantastic 99 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 5: at both, you know, So I think it's it's good. 100 00:04:08,320 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 2: What a busy week it's been for you. 101 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, You've You've had a lot going on in this week. 102 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: Congratulations on a great speech that you made. 103 00:04:16,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 6: Oh thank you. 104 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:20,119 Speaker 5: I kind of like, you know, the court case ended, 105 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 5: and then I went to bed. I was so shattered 106 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,000 Speaker 5: from the week. And then I woke up and I 107 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 5: was like, oh man, my album came out this morning. 108 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 5: And then I went to bed after that day of 109 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 5: promoting it, and then I woke up and I was like, 110 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: oh man, my tool starts there. And then it was 111 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,280 Speaker 5: in Dallas and I was like, oh man, I'm an 112 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 5: idol tomorrow. It's been quite I'm kind of I was 113 00:04:38,400 --> 00:04:40,600 Speaker 5: having a conversation this this morning about it, like I 114 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 5: don't know if I can actually like process anything that 115 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,039 Speaker 5: has happened in the last two weeks or the album coming, 116 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 5: because everything's just happened really really really fast. Yeah, but 117 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 5: I'm I'm loving that the record is out. People are 118 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:55,600 Speaker 5: connecting to it more than anything I've ever put out before. 119 00:04:55,640 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: It's like a weird it's it's a it's. 120 00:04:57,560 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 6: A weird one. 121 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 5: Fans are being so connected to it, like so so 122 00:05:02,080 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 5: personally connected to it. 123 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,160 Speaker 1: And is that do you think that's because of the 124 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 1: things that you're singing about that are really difficult personally 125 00:05:11,000 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: for people at times. 126 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's I sort of put myself out 127 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 5: on a line like I don't I've had things that 128 00:05:19,160 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 5: I've felt throughout my entire childhood and adult life, but 129 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: I don't necessarily like talk about them. And then they 130 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 5: all kind of came up last year through my friend 131 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 5: dying or Cherry's diagnosis or being in the court case 132 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 5: last year or whatever, and writing about them felt quite 133 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 5: raw for me, and I was like, I don't know 134 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:41,719 Speaker 5: if I want to release these because it's very you know, 135 00:05:41,880 --> 00:05:44,599 Speaker 5: embarrassing personal stuff. And then I think putting it out 136 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 5: people connect to it because it is feelings that people 137 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 5: feel and they don't necessarily talk about, so I think 138 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 5: it's nice to have. I'm sort of feeling it's like 139 00:05:52,360 --> 00:05:55,000 Speaker 5: a different lens on an album. Like I usually put 140 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 5: out albums and they have like big pop songs on 141 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 5: them that are the songs that drive people to listening 142 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,800 Speaker 5: to the. 143 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 6: Album, whereas this is it's a different feeling. 144 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 5: It's like a it's an album that people will have 145 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 5: four certain things rather than like bad habits. When you're 146 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 5: going out, you press play and you get ready to it, 147 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: and you might hear it in the club, but this 148 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 5: record just isn't that. 149 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 6: It just exists in a different sphere and space. 150 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, do you I found it interesting on watching 151 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: your documentary ed Sharing with Us now Subtract is out 152 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:27,039 Speaker 1: and the Disney Plus documentary is out as well. I 153 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: found it a lot interesting. I mean, as I said 154 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: to you last night when you came for rehearsal, I've 155 00:06:32,520 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 1: known you, but not really known you, you know, And 156 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:36,960 Speaker 1: I feel like just watching that, like I know you, 157 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: I feel closer to you and understanding you and your 158 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: songs even more so, made me want to go back 159 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: and listen to everything exactly well from a different point 160 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 1: of view. 161 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, the documentary was a weird one as well, because 162 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 5: I kind of like I'd made a documentary before I 163 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:52,919 Speaker 5: did this one on Divibe being made called Songwriter, and 164 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 5: it was all just me and the studio writing the songs. 165 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 5: And that's kind of what music documentaries end up being. 166 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:00,799 Speaker 5: It's like backstage at a gig or in the studio 167 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:03,560 Speaker 5: doing this, or maybe on a photo shoot. And when 168 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 5: the guys came to me and said we want to 169 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 5: make a documentary on you, that's what I thought we 170 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 5: were doing I thought we were making a documentary like that, 171 00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: and through life unraveling, it just turned into this different 172 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 5: thing and now it's not a music documentary. It's a 173 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 5: documentary about lots of lots of other things. 174 00:07:19,280 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: Well, you said in the documentary you talk about when 175 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: does one become an adult? And I thought that was 176 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: an interesting concept. 177 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 6: Yeah. 178 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:30,960 Speaker 5: I feel like, like kids, you sort of don't realize 179 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 5: how even as teenagers, you don't realize how easy it 180 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 5: is until you become an adult and then things start happening. 181 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 5: But heavy adult things happened to kids as well, and 182 00:07:43,440 --> 00:07:45,400 Speaker 5: two teenagers, and it really made me reflect when I 183 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:48,760 Speaker 5: lost my friend. It made me reflect on friends of 184 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,680 Speaker 5: mine that had lost their parents when they were like 185 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 5: ten or seven, and I was like, that's when you 186 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: became an adult. And we didn't realize that we realized 187 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: at the time because we didn't get it. We were 188 00:07:57,160 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 5: just you know, you try to be there for your friend. 189 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 5: But it's a yeah. It's like, I feel like, when 190 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 5: heavy adult stuff happens at any point in your life, 191 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 5: that's when you become an adult. And it might happen 192 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 5: when you're forty, and it might happen when you're fall. 193 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:11,480 Speaker 1: It's interesting to say, if you have not suffered or 194 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: experienced that kind of tragic loss with someone close or 195 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: a family member, you don't quite understand it. 196 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: It's the same with having. 197 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 1: Kids, right, I mean you said to me last night, 198 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to go call my kids for the show, 199 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: and then said you have kids, and I said, not yet. 200 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 2: It's a long story. 201 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 1: But I think that's another thing, like when you have kids, 202 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: you look at things differently and you understand like differently too, right, Yeah. 203 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that as life goes on my lenses 204 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 5: getting clearer. 205 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 6: I think, you know, you get less. 206 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 5: I think your twenties are just about figuring stuff out 207 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 5: and making mistakes. And I feel getting into thirties, having kids, 208 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: going through loss, going through like it just brings you 209 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 5: closer to the things that matter to family and to whatever. 210 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,599 Speaker 5: But yeah, I'm a yeah, this is five minutes in. 211 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:55,320 Speaker 5: This is getting deep. 212 00:08:57,240 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: It's going to be that now that we've all seen 213 00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: the documentary, it's all going to be deep. 214 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, it's ed cheering with us this morning. Subtract 215 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: is out Disney Plus. It's called There's Some of It 216 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: All and the other thing we're gonna take a break 217 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 1: and come back, and I think you brought a guitar. 218 00:09:10,640 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 6: I hope. 219 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 2: So yeah, I was gonna say, well, which songs should 220 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: we play? No, I think he's gonna play. I'm like great. 221 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: The other thing I really loved because I advocate working 222 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,040 Speaker 1: hard and hustling. I really loved your persistence early on 223 00:09:25,080 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: where you said, you know, some artists or artists might 224 00:09:27,080 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: go out and play a gig a week, I'm gonna 225 00:09:28,320 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: play three at night. 226 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 2: And I was like fired up by that. 227 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:34,120 Speaker 5: I'm sure you're the same as this as well when 228 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 5: you started out, But I sort of looked at myself 229 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:39,000 Speaker 5: and I was like, I'm not as good as other people, 230 00:09:39,559 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 5: but I know that I can outwork them, Like like 231 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:43,719 Speaker 5: I know if I'm not the best guitarist or the 232 00:09:43,760 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: best singer or the best songwriter. So the one tool 233 00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:47,880 Speaker 5: that I have in my toolkit is that I can 234 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,400 Speaker 5: work really hard and that will be the thing. And 235 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 5: then to working hard like it would be the same 236 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 5: for you, and like everyone in this in this room, 237 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 5: you then become really good at the thing because you're 238 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 5: doing a push. So yeah, yeah, it's yeah, that was 239 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 5: basically I was just on a scene in London, and 240 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:08,160 Speaker 5: every gig that I played there were people that were 241 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 5: noticeably a lot. 242 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 6: Better than me, and I was like, well, I got 243 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 6: to do something here. 244 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, that was where that's the thing you can control. 245 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: You can control your output. 246 00:10:17,720 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 6: Totally, totally, totally. 247 00:10:19,480 --> 00:10:22,560 Speaker 1: I was on my way into work yesterday and I 248 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: was going down Melrose and all the shops are there. 249 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: It was a beautiful day yesterday, yeah, gorgeous, and I 250 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:29,760 Speaker 1: saw these people lined up out sil on Meloys. I'm like, 251 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, there must be a sale. I wonder 252 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: if there's a clearance sale or something one of these 253 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: great stores. I look over and there's a yellow building 254 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 1: and said ed cheering on it, and then I guess 255 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: I missed it. But then you came up in the 256 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: double decker bus. 257 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 3: Right. 258 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 5: They sort of pop ups across the country as one 259 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 5: in Boston, one in Chicago, one in Dallas that I 260 00:10:47,080 --> 00:10:50,840 Speaker 5: did on Saturday, one in New York that I did Friday, 261 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 5: and then yeah, I did this. 262 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 6: Yesterday and it's it's fun. 263 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 5: Like I haven't really done interactive fan events in you know. 264 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 5: I remember, like my first album, I would like tweet 265 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 5: out I'm going to be here and then sure loads 266 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 5: of people come, but those fans who are like thirteen 267 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 5: fourteen then are now like mid twenties, so it's it's 268 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 5: a different thing like having this like pop up shop. 269 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: Everyone comes to and there's vinyls, there's bottles and all 270 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 5: sorts of stuff, and yeah, I just did a pop 271 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 5: up gig yesterday, but it kind of has to be 272 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 5: like organized chaos. Yeah you pretty message, you messed it out, 273 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 5: but it has to be pre planned, like approved with 274 00:11:27,920 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 5: police and stuff like that. 275 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 2: So it's how long did you play? 276 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 6: I did three songs, and then I came to you at. 277 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:37,080 Speaker 1: By the way you came to me, and then we 278 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: found out in that same moment that the King and 279 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,199 Speaker 1: the Queen were going to make a cameo on American. 280 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 5: Like, yeah, I was just sort of there, and then 281 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 5: I turned round Lionel Richie's interviewing the King, and I'm like, 282 00:11:48,679 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 5: this is like his first public appearance since being you know, crowned, 283 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 5: and he's an American idol. 284 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 6: This is mad. 285 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,600 Speaker 5: It was interesting, right, I'd yeah, like it's definitely like, 286 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 5: it's definitely mess are in it. 287 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 2: I was. 288 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: It was funny because they so King Charles the third 289 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,400 Speaker 1: the coronation and the King and the Queen afterwards throw 290 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 1: a party. I guess last night, which was a concert. 291 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:16,079 Speaker 1: Katy Perry and Lionel Richie were performing at the concert, 292 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,280 Speaker 1: so in UK time, they had already performed by the 293 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: time we. 294 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: Were going on live. 295 00:12:21,280 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 5: So I was like, these pre planned questions and they 296 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 5: pre recorded it because they said something that Alanas had said, 297 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 5: and I was like, are they watching? 298 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 2: Yes, so they were live during the show. 299 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 6: The must have been like two o'clock in the moon, 300 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 6: didn't you see. 301 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: I felt like it was like the fatigue setting in. Yeah, 302 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: because liquidation or. 303 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 6: H Yeah, that was the moment. 304 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,760 Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, they pre recorded these 305 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:47,839 Speaker 5: questions and Ryan's asking the things and yeah, and then 306 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 5: Katie said something Alana said it, and I was like, oh, 307 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 5: they are watching. I thought it would have been way 308 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 5: more small fluid or. 309 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 2: Liquid. 310 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: I didn't want to risk saying that on TV because 311 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 1: I would tongue tie it like liquidity. It's hard to say. 312 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: Ed sharing with us this morning, so they brought in 313 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: your Yeah. Yeah, we were talking about songs that we like. 314 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: We did have a chance to listen to the album 315 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: and the bonus tracks. Yes, you got to make sure 316 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: you check out. And last night we were playing some 317 00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: of the music I don't call music videos. 318 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 6: I really, I really appreciate that. 319 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:24,239 Speaker 5: By the way, I've never done a show that showcased 320 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 5: the album so much. 321 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: It was great to do. And I was singing along 322 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: to Dusty and Sistney, what's. 323 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: One of your favorite color blind? Color Blind? 324 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 4: The first few lyrics of that song, Kaleidoscope Love, just 325 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: hit us with that that phrase right there, when you 326 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 4: think about kaleidoscope love and then you say like forever changing, 327 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:47,199 Speaker 4: Like our love is like forever changing, just like a kaleidoscope, 328 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:48,160 Speaker 4: all the different colors. 329 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 2: It's just like that's so beautiful. 330 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm like wow, And it makes me feel very inadequate 331 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: about my thoughts, like I can't I'm like, wow, I 332 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: can't think of beautiful things like that. 333 00:13:57,880 --> 00:14:00,080 Speaker 2: Do you feel it? But you feel it when you 334 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 2: hear it? 335 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: Right? 336 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:01,199 Speaker 3: No? 337 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 6: Thank you? 338 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:03,920 Speaker 5: Well, I was saying, I just whenever I think of 339 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 5: something like that, I write it down in my notes 340 00:14:05,760 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 5: and I just have loads and loads of. 341 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,600 Speaker 2: Phrases and it grows from there. 342 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 5: Well, or like I'll be writing a song and I'll 343 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 5: just flick through my notes and be like. 344 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 6: Oh that actually I'm gonna work. Yeah, I'm going to 345 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 6: use that today. 346 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,200 Speaker 5: But I had that, I had the chorus of color 347 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 5: Blind for years and years and years, but it was 348 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 5: more just it was just going ah okay without any 349 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:29,240 Speaker 5: words to it. It was just like hums. And then 350 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 5: I sat down and finished it. 351 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 1: And in the documentary where you guys are sitting like 352 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 1: are you in your living room? 353 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 2: Sometimes with the microphone and the recording equipment in the dock. 354 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 5: No, it was mostly like I was on tour, as 355 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 5: they were different. It's like hotel, Yeah, I sort of. 356 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 5: My My rule for the documentary was no kids and 357 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: no inside my house because I didn't want anyone to 358 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 5: watch it and like be able to be able to 359 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 5: break into my house and where things are. 360 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: Safe. 361 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 6: My rule was just no kids and no inside of 362 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:01,440 Speaker 6: the house. 363 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: So in the dusty video, those are actors then playing. 364 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, so that's a girl who came and acted in 365 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 5: the video. 366 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 6: I mean she was ten, I think, and my daughter's three, 367 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 6: so it's. 368 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,000 Speaker 2: Very Were you making pancakes? 369 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was pancakes. 370 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 1: I was slightly distracted by the making of the pancakes. 371 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was a weird. 372 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 5: I was thinking, yeah, just of a concept for a video. 373 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 5: So I went to Mia, who made all the videos, 374 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 5: and I was just like, for Dusty, I just want 375 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 5: to make pancakes with an actress playing my daughter. That 376 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 5: concept well last for about thirty seconds, so we had 377 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 5: to find a way to extend it. But yeah, I 378 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 5: think the videos were really fun to do. I did 379 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 5: like fourteen videos in sixteen days, just like one after 380 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 5: the other after the other. After it was the water 381 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 5: called I really really regret one. 382 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:50,680 Speaker 2: It was your idea. 383 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 5: So yeah, so one writing an album that is so 384 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 5: much water themed and two not saying because they said, 385 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 5: you know, we can. 386 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,480 Speaker 6: Fly to la and we can we can film the 387 00:15:59,520 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 6: music video there, and I was like, no, no, I 388 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 6: want to be around my family. 389 00:16:02,080 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 5: So We're going to film in Suffolk in December in 390 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 5: the North Sea. 391 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 6: So I'm standing there it's like. 392 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 5: Two degrees and like we we had to have someone 393 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 5: on site that was like taking my pulse between like takes. 394 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 4: Yeah. 395 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,320 Speaker 5: And then and then I did these photos with Annie 396 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 5: Leibovitz and she came in in January and she's like, right, 397 00:16:20,480 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 5: the first picture I want you submerged in this lake 398 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 5: in Suffolk in January and it was just like, it's 399 00:16:26,240 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 5: the coldest I've ever been. 400 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 2: Did you get a wet suit under your clothes? 401 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, not for the anything. 402 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 1: He was carrying an anchor, dragging an anchor on the sand, 403 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, this is like I'm. 404 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 2: Going to catch a cold watching. 405 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, it was very cold. 406 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 5: I definitely regret the insistence of like, no, no, I 407 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 5: don't have to go to Los Angeles because I look 408 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 5: back at it and I'm like, I could have written 409 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 5: an album about being in the Caribbean a lot. 410 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 2: I also inspired by that blue water. 411 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:54,680 Speaker 1: All right, So you want to do eyes closed totally 412 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 1: figure out sharing with us live? 413 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:02,680 Speaker 3: No, it's about I did. But how can I hold myself? 414 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: Been inside formost this year and I thought a few 415 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 3: drinks thing might out. It's been a while. My dear 416 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 3: didn't hit the cards, life doubt still holding back the stairs. Well, 417 00:17:14,160 --> 00:17:17,439 Speaker 3: my friends are somewhere else. I pictured this year a 418 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 3: little bit different. When it is February, I step in 419 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,440 Speaker 3: the bar. It hit me so hard. How can it 420 00:17:23,560 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: be this heavy? Every song reminds me your gun and 421 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,440 Speaker 3: I feel the lumb form in my throat because I'm 422 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: here alone, just dancing with my eyes closed because everywhere 423 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 3: I look, CAR still see you, and time is moving 424 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:46,959 Speaker 3: so slow, and I don't know what out that I 425 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:50,679 Speaker 3: can do. So I keep dancing with my hi ya 426 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 3: yay eyes, hi ya yay close, staying eyes. Oh. I 427 00:17:57,119 --> 00:18:01,640 Speaker 3: keep dancing with my delusion here and I think you'll 428 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:05,240 Speaker 3: come home soon. Word brings me right back in. Then 429 00:18:05,240 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 3: it's only me that's in this moom. I guess I 430 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: could just be ten. The colors are more than blue, 431 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 3: but I lost more than my friend. 432 00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 2: I can't help it, missing you. 433 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:18,360 Speaker 3: I pictured this month a little bit different. No one 434 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:22,000 Speaker 3: is ever ready. I'm wearing unfolds. You get in the hole. 435 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 3: How can it be this heavy? Everything changes, nothing's the same, 436 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,080 Speaker 3: except the truth is now. 437 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,480 Speaker 6: You're all gone, and life just goes on. 438 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:37,120 Speaker 3: So I'm dancing with my eyes closed because everywhere I look, 439 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: I still see you, and time is moving so slow, 440 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 3: and I don't know what else that I can do, 441 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: So I keep dancing with my yea yaye eyes hi 442 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 3: yay eyes closed, day ye eyes. 443 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:56,040 Speaker 4: Oh. 444 00:18:56,160 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: I keep dancing with my yea yay eyes hi ya 445 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 3: yayes close day yea yeyes, Oh, I keep dancing with 446 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 3: my the shutting the bar cleaning the floor. Everyone is 447 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:16,680 Speaker 3: already home. But I'm my mile, still dancing with my 448 00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 3: eyes closed case everywhere alook. 449 00:19:21,600 --> 00:19:25,920 Speaker 2: And still see you. The time is moving so slow. 450 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: I don't know what else that I can do, So 451 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:36,119 Speaker 3: I keep dancing with my hi yea yay eyes, hi 452 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:40,360 Speaker 3: ya yayes close day yy eyes. Oh. 453 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 6: I keep dancing with my hi ya yay eyes. 454 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 3: Hi ya yayes close day ya yayyyes oh, I keep 455 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 3: dancing with my. 456 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: I'm sure in live this morning before ninety am seamlessly perfect. 457 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 2: She is ever less. He grabs a guitar and goes 458 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 2: right into it. Why my sweating, Like, I'm so wow. 459 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: You know something ed that I found interesting yesterday after 460 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: You Want American Idol, everybody kept saying this about you, 461 00:20:11,560 --> 00:20:13,920 Speaker 1: and I don't't embarrass you, and you've probably heard this before, 462 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: but they kept saying, wow, he's so they'd say nice, 463 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,080 Speaker 1: but they would say he's so down to earth. I 464 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 1: find it interesting that people make a point to say 465 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: that people are down to earth, right, because it. 466 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 6: Just must mean that there's a lot of people. But 467 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 6: that's what. 468 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 1: That's what I was getting at, right, And I think 469 00:20:29,359 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 1: that there's a well there's a there's a graciousness and 470 00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: a gratefulness that you carry with you. 471 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 2: Is that how you grew up? 472 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: Is that? 473 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 2: Where's that coming in the groundedness? Where's it coming from? 474 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 6: Yeah? 475 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 5: I think it is growing, you know, making sure you 476 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 5: introduce yourself to everyone and making sure you say thank 477 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 5: you and please and stuff. 478 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 6: I think that's like always been something that my parents 479 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 6: are put in me. 480 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 5: But I think the I honestly think the quote unquote 481 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 5: down to earthness comes from being British. I think in 482 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 5: Britain with sort of if you're a successful start, I 483 00:20:57,240 --> 00:20:59,560 Speaker 5: mean anyone will tell you this, from Harry to Adele 484 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 5: to whoever, mumpet and souns coldplay, but there's you're sort 485 00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 5: of told that there's. 486 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 6: Nothing special about you. 487 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 5: You kind of underdog, underdog on dog, and when you 488 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 5: get successful, it's like you get battered by everyone. 489 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 6: But there's sort of a pride in the in the in. 490 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:18,240 Speaker 5: The insults basically your ours, but also like don't you 491 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 5: get too big for your boots. Whereas I think in 492 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 5: America there's this the American dream is is real and 493 00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: when people achieve things, everyone else looks at them and 494 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:28,720 Speaker 5: goes well done, you achieved that. 495 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 6: That makes me think that I can achieve it. 496 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 5: Whereas in England it's very much they build you up 497 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 5: to tear you down, but if you stay on top 498 00:21:34,680 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 5: for long enough, then you. 499 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,840 Speaker 6: Become a national treasurer and everyone. So Chris Martin's entering 500 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 6: into that. 501 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 5: Now where everyone's like, we love coleplaying, we love Chris Martin, 502 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 5: but he's definitely had times in his career where it's 503 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 5: been difficult public perception wise in England, and I've had 504 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:51,200 Speaker 5: my fair shares of ups and downs of that. 505 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,439 Speaker 6: So I come over to America and I'm like, oh, 506 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 6: people like me. 507 00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 5: I played like the Dallas Cowboys Stadium on Saturday, and 508 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 5: I haven't played in American like five years, and I 509 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 5: remember stepping out on stage for the first time and 510 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 5: being like, Oh, people still like me here. This is 511 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 5: cool cool, Whereas like, I don't know, there's like a 512 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:11,399 Speaker 5: common I think people are not going to like you 513 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 5: at some point. 514 00:22:12,080 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 6: Is that well, I mean, at some point a career 515 00:22:15,400 --> 00:22:16,080 Speaker 6: slowed down. 516 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: For you and Cherry were talking about that or she 517 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 1: in the scene right and documentary scene and you were 518 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:23,920 Speaker 1: saying that at some point it slows down at the heat. 519 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,120 Speaker 2: Is less well. 520 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:27,240 Speaker 5: I mean, like Paul McCartney was in the biggest band 521 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 5: ever and eventually it's you know, eventually it slows down. 522 00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 2: But she asked you, how will you cope with that? 523 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:34,679 Speaker 2: And how do you I mean if that happens, like. 524 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 5: Well, you know, you're in You're in a business where 525 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 5: like I write music for me and if I didn't 526 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 5: want to, if I didn't care what people though about it, 527 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 5: I wouldn't release it. I just I just write it 528 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 5: for me, and that would be So there's a it's 529 00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 5: it's a business of popularity. You're in a business of popularity, 530 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,800 Speaker 5: Like people have to like you to listen to the 531 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:53,840 Speaker 5: radio show, people have to like me to listen to 532 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 5: my my music. So there's obviously when that stops happening, 533 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 5: it's like a shift of like have I done something 534 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 5: wrong or the people? 535 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 6: And it is like I was discussing this earlier as 536 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: well with someone. 537 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:10,040 Speaker 5: It's like you're friends with someone at school and then 538 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 5: your lives grow apart when you're older, and I feel 539 00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 5: like sometimes it's that with a fan base, you know, 540 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 5: like my fans who discovered me when they were eleven 541 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 5: or twelve and now in their mid twenties and they 542 00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,639 Speaker 5: might have different tastes in music now, and it's about 543 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 5: like it's about just making I make music for me 544 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 5: and I put it out and I have to just 545 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 5: accept that whoever likes it likes it. And if people 546 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,200 Speaker 5: move on from it or people find other things that that, 547 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 5: that's fine too. You know, it's a I don't know, 548 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:38,399 Speaker 5: like people will have listened to your show for however 549 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 5: many years, and there will be people that kind of 550 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 5: veer away and then come back, or people that have 551 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 5: been with you the whole time, or people that haven't 552 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 5: listened to you ever that are listened to you for 553 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:45,720 Speaker 5: the first. 554 00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 6: Time, stay and go. 555 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 5: You know what I like, Ryan, I'm going to listen 556 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 5: to them tomorrow. It's just like that's what a career is. 557 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:52,440 Speaker 5: A career isn't just being on top the entire time. 558 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 1: I feel like, you know, when it's something that you love, 559 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: like I love this, you love what you do, and 560 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 1: something that like I didn't do in front of people forever, 561 00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 1: I did in my room this right with the microphone. 562 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: You just you want to prove. 563 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 1: I want to prove every day, Like I get up 564 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:06,360 Speaker 1: and I turn on the mic and say I want 565 00:24:06,359 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: to prove that I should in can be. 566 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 5: And it's crazy for people to listen to your show 567 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 5: and think that, because they'll look at you and be like, 568 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 5: you're right in seacrest like you've been on top of 569 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 5: the game for blah blah blah blah. It is the 570 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: want and need to keep going and keep pushing it 571 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 5: that I think keeps careers going for you know long time. 572 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:23,479 Speaker 2: That's a good thing. 573 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: You also talk about your legacy and what you want 574 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: that to be, and I love the fact that you 575 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: take seriously encouraging young talent, young people pursuing what it 576 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: is that they want to pursue. 577 00:24:34,680 --> 00:24:37,480 Speaker 5: Well, I do you know, I wouldn't be where I 578 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:39,840 Speaker 5: am now if I hadn't watched Damien Rice at a 579 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 5: gig when I was eleven and met him in a 580 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 5: bar afterwards and then gone, do you know what, I'm. 581 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:44,760 Speaker 6: Going to pick up a guitar tomorrow and I'm going 582 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 6: to write a song. 583 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 5: So whenever I see kids, I'm even if they have 584 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:52,440 Speaker 5: like one iota of interest in writing songs or playing music, 585 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 5: I'm like, look where I came from, which is tiny 586 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 5: farming town in Suffolk, Like no one's made it out 587 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 5: of my area, like and I did it. You know, 588 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 5: I went to a normal school and I moved to 589 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:07,399 Speaker 5: London at seventeen and I started on the gig circuit 590 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 5: and I wasn't good and this happened. So and I 591 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,000 Speaker 5: meet kids sometimes that are like like on the show yesterday, 592 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 5: there's seventeen eighteen year olds that are way better than 593 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,679 Speaker 5: I was at seventeen. So if you think if they 594 00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: put in the same stuff, they're going to be far 595 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 5: greater than I've got to. You know, it's a I 596 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 5: think it's just also reminding people that music is a 597 00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 5: real job. You know, so many people said to me, like, 598 00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:31,119 Speaker 5: you should probably get real job to fall back on 599 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 5: or go to university. And you know, all those people 600 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 5: now will see my job as a real job, whereas 601 00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 5: before it wasn't. 602 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,720 Speaker 1: But I think it's so much the specificity in that 603 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: moment where someone showed you you could do it right. 604 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you gave the young. 605 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 1: Boy guitar in your in your hometown, you know that 606 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: specificity will change that person's life, one person. 607 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:54,719 Speaker 5: For I wish I could show you that hometown as well, 608 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 5: because that is it's so like people see England, they 609 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 5: go London but England is it's like looking at America 610 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,119 Speaker 5: and just thinking that America as New York America is 611 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,360 Speaker 5: huge and there's so many different things. And yeah, if 612 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: you ever have time, come to Ipswich. 613 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,000 Speaker 2: Well the bar. I like the bar. 614 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: The bar seems cool, that seems like spot. Thanks for 615 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: coming man, great to see you last night on this morning. 616 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 5: Thank you so much for having happiness. It's not lost 617 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 5: on me that this is a you know, a really 618 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 5: great platform for you to allow me on. So thank 619 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: you so much and I'll see you next time.