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Speaker 1: Hey, yo, I'm happy you said that. You talk about

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Speaker 1: being in the backyard because I tell my son all

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Speaker 1: the time, Man, some of the most creative moments you'll

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Speaker 1: guarding you, with nobody, with nobody even there. Like, just

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Speaker 1: talk about that, because your creativity is pretty much unmatched,

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Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Your creativity with the basketball

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Speaker 1: is unmatched. Just talk about where you get some of

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Speaker 1: that creativity from. Because I tell my son all the time,

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Speaker 1: if you need me to go out there with you,

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Speaker 1: then you in trouble. If you need me to go

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Speaker 1: with you, every time you in trouble, son, I.

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Speaker 2: Can't help you.

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Speaker 3: You're in trouble. And that's the thing.

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Speaker 4: And we gotta as OG's we gotta keep preaching that.

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Speaker 4: Like if you go to trainer every day for two hours,

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Speaker 4: that enough. If you love this and you're really chasing this,

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Speaker 4: like you're gonna spend so many hours by yourself, You're

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Speaker 4: going so many hours in your room with that, with

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Speaker 4: the hangar hoop, with the pair of socks, just and

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Speaker 4: mad being imagined that being creative. I was the type

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Speaker 4: to watch, you know, TV, see something on TV commercial break,

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Speaker 4: I'm going around side to try it. Tim Hardaways did

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Speaker 4: that crossover. I'm gonna try that right there and trying to.

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Speaker 4: And I was the kid that I would go outside

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Speaker 4: and see how would rain a lot? Ain't nobody outside,

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Speaker 4: so I'm looking around. Course, ain't nobody there. I'm like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I'm getting better. So how we talk about, man, somebody

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Speaker 4: I was that kid, but it gave me imagination. So

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Speaker 4: I was like, man, I had so many moves and

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Speaker 4: things I didn't get to do because I was thinking

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Speaker 4: about this my whole life.

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Speaker 3: Like the past I did the blake when I threw

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Speaker 4: I literally had that in my head since I was

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Speaker 4: eight years old when my old gen's taught me that play.

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Speaker 4: My sister's old boyfriend JT from Detroit taught me that play.

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Speaker 4: He did it for a layup. I did it to

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Speaker 4: a pass and I had that. I'm like, I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: do it in high school. Didn't happen. I'm gonna do

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Speaker 4: it in Michigan. We played Dude. Didn't happen so now

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Speaker 4: I'm just fast forwarding, but I've had all these plays

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Speaker 4: in but it comes from that imagination, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's what's missing the game, and that's why we love

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Speaker 4: players in the game that brings that that creativity to

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Speaker 3: Today, Hey, my.

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Speaker 5: Dead ass, and I mean this, it's gonna sound like

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Speaker 5: a crazy question. I talk about this with people all

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Speaker 5: the time, but you don't even know I talk about you.

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Speaker 5: I still think you can play it right now?

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Speaker 2: Hell yeah, I really, I really do.

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Speaker 5: Most one of the most unique people have ever seen,

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Speaker 5: like at thirty nine go out have fifty like like

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Speaker 5: like what is it? Like?

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Speaker 3: Do you take care of your body? Is it just just

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Speaker 3: like what is it? Because it's it's that and it's

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Speaker 4: And it's like, y'all right now if we're all in

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Speaker 4: shape and we could easily go play because our minds,

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Speaker 4: first off, we see the game differently. So it's almost

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Speaker 4: like Mayweather right later in Mayweather's career, he was still

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Speaker 4: crazy efficient, but he wasn't wasting energy, he wasn't taking punches,

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Speaker 4: he wasn't he was just gonna pick you apart. We

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Speaker 4: they play right now right. But then I'm always in shape,

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Speaker 4: So I'm always playing. I'm always me and you. He

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Speaker 4: talked about it on the road. We're gonna go who

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Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying. So I'm always I would

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Speaker 4: bro I'm like Andre with his fluke. I pop up

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Speaker 4: any work, go play like that's it. That's just what

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Speaker 4: it is like. So I'm always doing that. I'm always

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Speaker 4: playing against kids. I played against the high school team

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Speaker 4: and they had some fans off. I want to help coach.

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Speaker 4: They start talking too much. I jumped out their bands

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Speaker 1: I listen all bullshit aside because I get a chance

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Speaker 1: it just it gives me all I need. Like all

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Speaker 1: and just gives you all.

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Speaker 2: You just you searching for.

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Speaker 1: That competitive You got that competitive hunger that still drives

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Speaker 1: you to play this game of basketball, Mike. This this

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Speaker 1: is minus all the beers. So I don't know if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna pull up and play.

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Speaker 3: But I see the play college kids.

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Speaker 1: Mike, Mike was busting their ass and Memphis though I

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Speaker 1: seen that, I was like, this must have been before

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Speaker 1: the bud Wises because I was watching them.

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Speaker 3: I was watching them clips.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hold on, why the killer killing this?

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Speaker 1: Then they showed the rest of the clip at the

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Speaker 1: end he went over and had a cool little bud

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Speaker 2: They ain't show that clip.

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Speaker 4: But but to your point, you remember when we was

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Speaker 4: growing up playing on the playground.

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Speaker 3: The dude wasn't drinking, no gatoring. Oh g. He was

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Speaker 3: drinking game between games with his brown fag.

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Speaker 2: You you're right right, Mike. From the hood. I knew it, Mike,

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Speaker 3: I knew it for me.

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Speaker 4: I still I still go outside literally and I put

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Speaker 4: the beat toll and I play music I played at

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Speaker 4: high school to get my zone. And I'll be out

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Speaker 4: there by myself to this day, I pull up on

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Speaker 4: a random park by myself, just going through drills, making

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Speaker 4: new drills, new ship to go through.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm gonna brainwash my son. When I get home.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna play the first ten minutes.

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Speaker 1: So it's got damn podcasts over and over and his

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Speaker 1: mother's and let him rik because what I told him. Listen,

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Speaker 1: he has a game today and he plays at three o'clock.

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Speaker 1: I mean he plays at six o'clock and he get

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Speaker 1: out of school at three. He was like, what I'm

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Speaker 3: Go shoot.

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Speaker 2: I got. He's like, I got three hours.

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Speaker 1: What I'm gonna do with today's Go get you a

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Speaker 2: The hell you mean with you?

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Speaker 3: And then after that, go watch some film, Go watch

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Speaker 3: to get this whatever?

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Speaker 2: What the hear how you're gonna do?

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Speaker 3: We grew up with.

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Speaker 1: It's your goddamn shots up and get a snack or something.

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Speaker 1: But I see your ass at six, and you better

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Speaker 1: be ready by you better be ready that ship. I've

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Speaker 1: got my motherfucking tripod. I'm making film. Nigga, were finna

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Speaker 1: get in like you want to play, were gonna play, motherfucker.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing with kids, right, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if they all of ours and all of kids across

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Speaker 1: understand the biggest cheek code they have is us with

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Speaker 1: the knowledge, Like we can literally tell you everything. We

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Speaker 1: we can give you the answers if you're working the

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Speaker 4: A lot of kids be in the gym, they work

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Speaker 4: on the right ship. Like you're working on shit that

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Speaker 4: half this stuff. And some of these traders are teaching that.

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Speaker 4: Not just gotta hold them accountable too, not just the kids.

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Speaker 1: The pros too. Growing at the pros too. I see

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Speaker 1: pros working on shit they ain't never doing it. I'm like, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: when you get in there, you was rolling to the basket. Yep,

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Speaker 1: that's what you do. That's what you do.

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Speaker 5: They'd be better off going there for forty five.

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Speaker 3: Minutes to two hours working on that dumb man ship.

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Speaker 4: Come on, bro, like stuff that gonna transfer the game

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Speaker 4: because at that point, as OG's and adults, we're hurting

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Speaker 4: it more than helping them. If they're putting we're putting

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Speaker 4: bad information in their in their data book, we're giving

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Speaker 4: them the wrong game. So that's gonna keep their career short.

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Speaker 4: If you know how to play right, you're gonna play

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Speaker 3: To work on it.

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Speaker 5: Like, yeah, once you get in the season, if you

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Speaker 5: if you if you don't have enough awareness to understand

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Speaker 5: where your shots and where your opportunity exactly from.

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Speaker 3: That's all you right now.

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Speaker 5: In the offseason, you can expand that and come back

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Speaker 5: your friends show them. But at the end of the day, man, like,

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Speaker 5: if you're in having enough awareness to understand, like I

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Speaker 5: exactly where my shots were coming from, guess what I'm

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Speaker 5: gonna do. I'm gonna shoot ten thousand of them, all right, yes, right, yes,

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Speaker 5: because at the end of day, that's what's gonna get

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Speaker 3: This can make it more fun, more competitive, for sure.

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Speaker 3: Crazy so you get hold up.

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Speaker 5: But fifty thirty nine years old, Bro.

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Speaker 4: Mike, I'm gonna be honest, with you. That wasn't even

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Speaker 4: the coldest stat. The coldest stat of that whole thing

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Speaker 4: was for that month. That is a short month.

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Speaker 3: I get it. We played four games. We want half

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Speaker 4: First off, I averaged thirty one points six assists off

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Speaker 4: the bitch in April. That was my highest scoring month

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Speaker 4: of any month of my twenty years. So that was

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Speaker 4: the most impressive stat to me. I'm like, damn, I

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Speaker 4: averaged thirty one points, six assists, shot like fifty something

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Speaker 4: half the damn games. Ain't within no games that year.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, man, I took pride in that.

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Speaker 5: Why do you stop playing? I'm being for real.

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Speaker 3: Now because because honestly, they stopped me.

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Speaker 4: And what I mean was the year before I won

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Speaker 4: Teammate of the Year, and to me, that was the

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Speaker 4: most impressive award because that's not a war, that's just

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Speaker 4: being good teammate, having character, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, you can't question my character. Then I

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Speaker 4: didn't even before Phoenix. I signed a day before the season.

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Speaker 4: I'm like, damn, a day before the season. That's crazy.

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Speaker 4: Then I waited sixteen months and go play in the bubble.

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Speaker 4: So it's like I got to a point where I

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Speaker 4: had depression at time. So I'm like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take Any saved teams, by the way, try

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Speaker 4: to hire me the coach or be in their front office.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, you know what, they want my brain.

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Speaker 4: They don't want me on the court, Okay, cool, So

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna take the power from them instead of just waiting.

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Speaker 4: You know, it is working out every day, don't know

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Speaker 4: if you're getting the call. Still got to work out,

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