1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Herd podcast. Be sure to 2 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: catch us live every weekday on Fox Sports Radio and 3 00:00:05,880 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: noon to three Eastern nine am to noon Pacific. Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: Robert Griffin, third Fox Sports, NFL and college football analyst, 9 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 1: eight years in the NFL Heisman Trophy winner. 10 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: We love having him on the show, and he's joining us. 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: After a wild, wild weekend for the two best quarterbacks, 12 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Dante More and Fernando Man doesn't. We'll get to that. 13 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: We will get to that. I want to I want 14 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 1: to start with the Brian Dable firing. What I don't 15 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: like about it is Jackson Dart is your guy. They 16 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:54,639 Speaker 1: have a great relationship. Just let it play out. You're 17 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: not a playoff team. Let it play out for the year. 18 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: Then you know if it's Kafka, if it's Mike McCAT whatever. 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: Your takeaway on firing a coach now with a very 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 1: sub optimal roster. Scataboo's hurt, neighbors can't stay healthy. What 21 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: do you or you know, Matt Hasselbek said, bring Cofkin 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 1: for six games, seven games, lat let him trial run. 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: Where do you land on that? 24 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think they need to get rid of everybody. 25 00:01:23,640 --> 00:01:26,080 Speaker 4: I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Dable 26 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 4: at this point in the season. 27 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 5: You're two and eight. 28 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 4: Normally when coaches get fired in season, it's because you 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 4: already know the guy that you want to go get 30 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:34,759 Speaker 4: and you want to get ahead of that, or you're 31 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: thinking it's going to spark the team. This team is 32 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 4: out out of the playoffs essentially, like you're not going 33 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 4: to turn this around going if he did on the 34 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 4: stretch and find a way to sneak in. 35 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 5: So I don't love that part of it. But what 36 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 5: I what I. 37 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:51,440 Speaker 4: Really hate is that they attached a rookie quarterback to 38 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 4: a head coach. 39 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 5: And a GM there on the hot seat again. 40 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 4: And I watched this with Chicago and I brought this up, 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 4: and I caught a lot of flak for it, Colin 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 4: because I said that I didn't I think that the 43 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 4: bear should connect Caleb Williams to Matt Eberfluss, who is 44 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 4: a head coach on the hot seat, because then you 45 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 4: put your young quarterback in a situation where he's gonna 46 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:11,960 Speaker 4: have his second head coach and his second play caller 47 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 4: in his second year. 48 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,279 Speaker 5: The biggest thing for young guys is stability. 49 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:18,640 Speaker 4: So now you sit here and I didn't know what 50 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 4: the Giants are doing in the offseason when they brought 51 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,639 Speaker 4: in Russell Wilson and Jamis Winston and then went. 52 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: Drafted Jackson Dart. But here we are, So I. 53 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 4: Think the only rightful decision for them to make now 54 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 4: is to go hire Lane Kiffin as head coach because 55 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 4: that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better than 56 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 4: any other coach in the NFL and is going to 57 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 4: be able to get the best out of him to 58 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 4: where Dart isn't going to have to now go into 59 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 4: a new situation and learn a whole new terminology and 60 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: a whole new way of doing things. 61 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 5: Kiffen knows him better than anybody. 62 00:02:48,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: Also, you know, that's a great idea I had Keifvin 63 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:55,799 Speaker 1: in Miami, but Lane's been a head coach usc Ole 64 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: Miss NFL. When you try to go, it's to be 65 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 1: a head coach to go to New York and be 66 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,639 Speaker 1: a first time head coach. I mean, the talk radio, 67 00:03:06,800 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: it's the fans. It's hard, so. 68 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: That that is really that's a great idea. 69 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:18,240 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Caleb has been the opposite 70 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: of JJ McCarthy. Caleb's great late j JJ on the 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: first drive. 72 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 3: What do you what is your. 73 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:30,640 Speaker 1: Takeaway on Caleb's performance during this winning streak kind of 74 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 1: it unlocks later in the game. Are you okay with that? 75 00:03:35,640 --> 00:03:35,760 Speaker 6: Uh? 76 00:03:36,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 4: I am okay with it because it's really about Caleb 77 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 4: and Ben Johnson finding a way to win. 78 00:03:42,520 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 5: And you know, I listen to what. 79 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 4: All these guys say because you can hear how they 80 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Speaker 4: really feel in what they're saying. After the games, and 81 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams talked about Ben Johnson and he said, you 82 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: know what, we're like a two punch tandem, and the 83 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 4: trust of the guys in the locker room and the 84 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 4: coaching staff has been a real big thing for them. 85 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 4: He talked about how Ben Johnson's information that he's providing 86 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,680 Speaker 4: him and giving him helping him in preparation has gone 87 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 4: a long way with him to be effective at the 88 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 4: end of games. And what that is to say is 89 00:04:13,640 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: if you remember last year, there's the article came out 90 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 4: about how Matty Eberflus and the staff weren't really teaching 91 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,359 Speaker 4: Caleb Williams how to study in the NFL, how to 92 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 4: break down NFL defenses, and how to do those different things. 93 00:04:25,960 --> 00:04:29,680 Speaker 4: He's getting that now from Ben Johnson, and it makes 94 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,159 Speaker 4: it to where he trusts what he sees when he's 95 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 4: on the field. Sometimes when you go into an environment 96 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:37,480 Speaker 4: that you don't really know Colin and you don't really 97 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 4: know what you're supposed to be seeing, it's really hard 98 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 4: to pull that trigger. Caleb is doing that, especially in 99 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 4: critical moments. So I really believe that him and Ben 100 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: Johnson are winning. And I know that the teams that 101 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 4: they've beat over the last six weeks then they've won 102 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 4: six of the last seven have a combined record of 103 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 4: fifteen thirty three and one. 104 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:57,719 Speaker 5: But in the NFL, you never apologize for winning games, 105 00:04:57,920 --> 00:04:59,839 Speaker 5: and winning games is really hard. 106 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 4: So they're building their relationship by winning the games in 107 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 4: front of them, And I couldn't be happier for him. 108 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: I said earlier today, I said, I figured out every 109 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 1: team in the league. It took me ten weeks except Pittsburgh. 110 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,359 Speaker 1: I don't know what I get. I don't know what 111 00:05:16,440 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: I get week to week half to half. 112 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 3: Clawber New England drop. 113 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: The Colts lost to the Bengals blown out by the 114 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: Chargers Green Bay. If you've ever been on a team, 115 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 1: usually you get a sense what a team is. Now 116 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: everybody has a stinger, but you kind of get a 117 00:05:32,040 --> 00:05:34,760 Speaker 1: sense of what a team is. What does it tell 118 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:39,880 Speaker 1: you that Pittsburgh week to week is a totally different team, 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: energy focused, production, performance. 120 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:47,799 Speaker 4: Why yeah, Colin, It's the first time I've ever felt 121 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 4: like the Pittsburgh Steelers don't have an identity. 122 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:51,680 Speaker 1: Why right. 123 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:54,600 Speaker 4: Normally, when you think of the Steelers, you think they're 124 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,239 Speaker 4: going to run the football and they're gonna play great defense. Well, 125 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 4: they can't run the football, and on defense, they're ranked 126 00:06:01,720 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: thirtieth in the NFL against the pass, so their defense 127 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 4: isn't great. They don't have a consistent identity weekend and 128 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 4: week out, And part of me thinks it is because 129 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 4: there might be a little bit of conflict in the 130 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 4: play calling. I watched them on fourth and goal and 131 00:06:20,320 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers through that back shoulder fade or what looked 132 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 4: like a fade to DK Metcalf, and it looked like 133 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,040 Speaker 4: he said, signaled that to him or was the decision 134 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 4: that he made, but he had Pat Fryermuth coming wide 135 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 4: open right around the first down marker, which would have 136 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 4: put them at first in goal, but he didn't go there. 137 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 4: And when I watched some of the tags that they run, 138 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:43,040 Speaker 4: Rogers notorious for adding tags to run plays and being 139 00:06:43,080 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 4: able to have the flexibility to do what he wants 140 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 4: in those situations. I don't know if there's a complete 141 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 4: trust there between Arthur Smith and Aaron Rodgers when it 142 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 4: comes to the play calling and how they're executing the offense. 143 00:06:55,760 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 4: And that's a problem because Rogers said he needs to 144 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 4: play better. He knows that he's a hall of They 145 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 4: brought him in there to study the ship. 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That 161 00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 3: was really good. 162 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: I got to ask you to college things because you 163 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: were a Heisman winner. They're certainly an argument all these 164 00:07:56,960 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 1: guys should come back. But I'm watching Mendos make those 165 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: throws on that last drive on the road, Robert, those 166 00:08:03,760 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 1: are Sunday throws. That kid is a big kid with 167 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: a big arm, And if you're going to be the 168 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: number one pick, you probably got to come out. And 169 00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: then Dante more in terrible Iowa Weather is making a 170 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: throw at the right sideline. You're like, just let's talk. 171 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: Let's talk both those guys. I think you have to 172 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: come out if you're the first or second pick. I agree, 173 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:31,680 Speaker 1: let's talk Mendoza first and then Dante Moore. What do 174 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: you see from those two? 175 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, first thing I see from Fernando Mendoza is his 176 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 4: ability to command a room, like when this guy talks, 177 00:08:40,640 --> 00:08:42,559 Speaker 4: you know, I think this past weekend he said. 178 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 5: I'm willing to die on the field for my teammates. 179 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 4: Okay, well tell me an offensive lineman or a coach 180 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 4: or a GM that's not going to hear that and 181 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: be like, I. 182 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 5: Don't want that guy. 183 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 4: They would all want that guy because he seems to 184 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 4: be all about ball, and I was. The drive was 185 00:08:56,200 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 4: super impressive in his ability to make those big time 186 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: NFL throws at pressure in his face, But I was 187 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 4: even more impressed with the last one for the touchdown. 188 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 4: I know it was an amazing catch by Omar Cooper Junior, 189 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 4: but the fact that Mendoza made that throw in that 190 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 4: moment literally getting you know, his face knocked off and 191 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,839 Speaker 4: just gets up and walks off like it's nothing. That 192 00:09:17,920 --> 00:09:20,280 Speaker 4: to me, it was his Heisman moment one hundred percent. 193 00:09:20,559 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 4: But it was also the moment that every NFL scout 194 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 4: is going to look at and say, that's my quarterback. 195 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, he's got all the measurables, he's got all the intangibles. 196 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: Yeah. And Dante Moore played in lousy weather. He moves better, Yeah, 197 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: he to me, he again He's just slick. 198 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 3: He moved. 199 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: He is a twenty twenty five NFL quarterback and he's 200 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: supposed to be the nicest, most humble kid. 201 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: What do you see with him? 202 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think for Dante Moore, it's uh, everything that 203 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 4: Mendoza has that that that Dante doesn't, he makes up 204 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 4: for with his playmaking ability. I think Mendoza's got the 205 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 4: big arm, the big body, the frame, and he's and 206 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:03,560 Speaker 4: he's got the toughness. Dante's got all that and a 207 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 4: little bit of a smaller package. But when I watch 208 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:08,319 Speaker 4: him throw, because I'm calling their game this week with 209 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 4: Jason Bennetti in a Lex Atlanti story against Minnesota, when 210 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 4: you watch him. 211 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 5: Throw, it's just like the ball always gets to the 212 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 5: right place. 213 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: And I'm gonna say this, and maybe people might get 214 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: mad at me about it, but he reminds me of 215 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 4: if you put Dylan Gabriel and Sear Sanders in the same. 216 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 5: Body, that that is what he has. 217 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 4: Because for Dylan Gabriel there in Cleveland right now, there's 218 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 4: a little bit of like what's missing. I think Dante 219 00:10:30,920 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 4: has that he has that special playmaking ability inside of 220 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 4: him and he doesn't unleash it. All the time, but 221 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 4: you saw it on like a forty yard run against 222 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 4: Iowa this past weekend. 223 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: By the way, you've been joined by somebody behind you 224 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 1: the couch. Who is the uh it's one of your 225 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: one of your slot receivers. My two year old Gia, 226 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 1: come out here, Come on, come on, Ga, come on. 227 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, she's over there playing with the Funko pops. 228 00:10:57,600 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 5: She's having a good time. 229 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:03,000 Speaker 1: Awesome. Hey, great Struff is always my man. Thank you, Robert, 230 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: appreciate you. Colin God bless brother. 231 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: All right, thank you, really good stuff. And Aaron Rodgers 232 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 3: stuff is fascinating. All right, Uh, j Mack with the news. 233 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: Turn on the news. 234 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: This is the herd Line News. 235 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 7: All right, let's go to the Buffalo Bills. Colin brutal 236 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 7: loss for them to my on the road. 237 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: Now. 238 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 7: The report's coming out that Josh Allen was down with 239 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:34,200 Speaker 7: the South Beach flu, so maybe this. 240 00:11:34,200 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 3: Should be excused. He was quite bad the brutal red zone. 241 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 7: Pick the fumble, My guy, James Cook did not Cook 242 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 7: had a bad fumble. It was just an all around 243 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 7: letdown performance, which shouldn't surprise people. 244 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:47,400 Speaker 3: We try to. 245 00:11:47,480 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 7: Educate the folks, don't we call him Hey, you beat 246 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 7: the Chiefs, They're probably is going. 247 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:53,000 Speaker 3: To be a letdown against Miami. 248 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 2: Anyway. 249 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,119 Speaker 7: Here's Josh Allen on his team's gross performance. 250 00:11:57,280 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 8: They came ready to play. They wanted it obviously a 251 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 8: little more than us. I gotta be better. I'd be 252 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 8: better in the protection game, in the past game, in 253 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 8: the wrong game, all of it. You know, it's anytime 254 00:12:09,400 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 8: you turn it over three times two in the red zone. 255 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 8: Really you could count that last one, you know, driving 256 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:17,400 Speaker 8: kind of going into the red zone. So that's that's 257 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 8: a recipe for disaster. 258 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,680 Speaker 7: It was ninety degrees in Miami, a little hot into 259 00:12:22,720 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 7: the collar for Josh and company. 260 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 1: Well, I you know, I get that. I mean I 261 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:30,400 Speaker 1: do get the Northern teams come down and it's hot, 262 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:35,080 Speaker 1: Like I do get. But it's just to me, they 263 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: no energy. I mean, you have to account for that. 264 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: Like if you know, guys, it's gonna be hot, we're 265 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:43,840 Speaker 1: gonna wear out. Then you have to have a great 266 00:12:43,880 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: first quarter. You got to just sell to your team. 267 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: We got to come out. We're gonna have twelve scripted plays. 268 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: We gotta be dialed in because we're gonna fade in 269 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 1: this weather. We don't plan this weather, we don't practice 270 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 1: in it. But to be just out man sixteen nothing 271 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: at half with Josh Allen and James Cook, that's not 272 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: good enough. 273 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: They didn't have ninety yards. They zero for six on 274 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 3: third down in the first half. 275 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: Ninety total yards against Miami's d. 276 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:08,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was weird. 277 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 7: Now, I'm not excusing the Bills, but again, this is 278 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 7: a week to week league. 279 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 3: You know that, Colin. 280 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:17,040 Speaker 7: I'm seeing reports that they were down by at the 281 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 7: end of the game as many as five defensive starters, 282 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 7: and Tua looked good other than two arm punts. Tua 283 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 7: looked pretty good. Wata looked pretty good. I gotta ask you, 284 00:13:26,400 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 7: Tampa Bay at Buffalo this week, Buffalo laying five and 285 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 7: a half at home. 286 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 3: What's the lean there? Remember week to week league, Tampa, 287 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,120 Speaker 3: by the. 288 00:13:35,120 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 7: Way, got smashed at home by the Patriots nys early. 289 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: I shouldn't put you on this. 290 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: I Buffalo's my play here, Yeah, yeah, Buffalo's my play now. 291 00:13:45,679 --> 00:13:46,600 Speaker 3: We got to see the injuries. 292 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 7: Obviously, they're gonna need their defense because Baker, Abuca and Baker, 293 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 7: they've got some like mind meld going on. That's really good. 294 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,520 Speaker 7: But I think Tampa's a little overrated and I think 295 00:13:55,559 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 7: Buffalo Bounce is back strong. 296 00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 3: Don't write them. 297 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:58,680 Speaker 1: Off yet, folks. 298 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 3: Next up the Ditch de Troit Lions. 299 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 7: I can't tell if people are making too much of 300 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:06,160 Speaker 7: this or not, but let's get into it here. So 301 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 7: before the game, there was a report from NFL Network 302 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 7: that Dan Campbell might be calling the place. Well, Campbell 303 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,079 Speaker 7: takes over the play calling. However, there's some dispute as 304 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 7: to when it happened. Was a full game, was it halftime? Anyways, 305 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 7: here's Dan Campbell talking about calling plays instead of his 306 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,240 Speaker 7: OC John Morton. 307 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 9: I know what I want to do, I know how 308 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:29,000 Speaker 9: I want to do it. Now that being said, this 309 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 9: is a collaborative effort. Now it was honest. It was. 310 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 9: It was he and I and we were good. And 311 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 9: it's like I told, man, I need you, you know 312 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 9: I need you, and but I feel like, you know, 313 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 9: this is something that I'm going to do. And listen, 314 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 9: John Morton's all team man, that's all he cares about. 315 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that's not ideal. 316 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 7: Well listen, you know at halftime something seemed to change. 317 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 7: Our staff is hot on the idea that Jamison Williams 318 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 7: somebody got the memo at halftime. Maybe Dan Campbell that 319 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 7: Jamo was unhappy he was force fed in. 320 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:02,960 Speaker 3: The second half. Did you see him kind of go off? Yep, 321 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:07,040 Speaker 3: absolutely to a point. You know, they need Jamis and 322 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 3: Williams to develop. 323 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 7: We know Willaporta and Amarah Gibbs Montgomery, but they could 324 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 7: use Williams to in the postseason against some of the 325 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 7: elite teams. I am curious, though, this was against a 326 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:19,360 Speaker 7: Washington team that. 327 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: Is total crap. 328 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,120 Speaker 7: They've given up so many points and yards in the 329 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 7: last four weeks. They've lost each of those games by 330 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 7: twenty one or more points. 331 00:15:27,560 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 3: So are you ready to crown Dan Campbell or do 332 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: you need to see it next week against I don't 333 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 3: know the Eagles before we say yeah, Dan Campbell knows 334 00:15:35,600 --> 00:15:38,120 Speaker 3: what he's doing. Well, he knows what he's doing. 335 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 1: I just think I think your bigger issue is you 336 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: lost the best OC in the league and now you're 337 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: taking over duties. You can put as much makeup on 338 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: that story as you want. That's not ideal, that's not 339 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 1: what you want. 340 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 7: And Minnesota, you know, Brian Flores had a good game 341 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:54,440 Speaker 7: plan last week and kind. 342 00:15:54,280 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 3: Of bodied them. I don't want to overreact here. 343 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 7: If I'm Detroit, because again, Washington team is rotten Colin Day, 344 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 7: there's a lot of quit on that team. I think 345 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 7: Detroit scored on their first seven possessions well to start 346 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 7: the game. 347 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 3: Just up and downsfield. 348 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:11,080 Speaker 1: Washington's the oldest team in the league. Pittsburgh's the second oldest. 349 00:16:11,320 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: They're both fading fast. 350 00:16:12,880 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 3: Ooh, that's a nice hot take. 351 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: Or will Pittsburgh bounce back? I mean, like, I feel 352 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 1: like Washington it's over. 353 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:21,280 Speaker 3: It's over. 354 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh could come back next week and win by fourteen. 355 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: I don't know what they. 356 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 7: Are so I only made one bet last night, Washington, 357 00:16:29,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 7: do you want to hear about their game this week? 358 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 7: So after that bludgeoning at home where they were boot 359 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 7: off the field stands for empty in like the fourth quarter, 360 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 7: Washington goes to Madrid to face the Miami Dolphins. 361 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,520 Speaker 3: But after Madrid, Washington has a bye week. 362 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 7: So I wonder if the wives and girlfriends are like, hey, 363 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 7: let's just make it two weeks in Europe. Let's stay 364 00:16:48,400 --> 00:16:52,000 Speaker 7: away from Washington. I think Washington's totally done. I think 365 00:16:52,080 --> 00:16:54,920 Speaker 7: Miami's decided this week. It's a little early to talk. 366 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 7: But when you're hot, you're hot. And he thoughts Miami Washington. 367 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 1: Well, Mike McDaniel a bit of a resurrect. We had 368 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 1: him fired three or four weeks ago, and he's had 369 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: a couple impressive wins. So remember the coaching staff at Miami. 370 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 3: The owner in. 371 00:17:07,560 --> 00:17:11,920 Speaker 1: Miami said, GM is gone. We believe in Mike McDaniel. 372 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,440 Speaker 1: So he got Now it's a public vote of confidence. 373 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,879 Speaker 1: But I will say this, by giving the coach a 374 00:17:17,920 --> 00:17:21,400 Speaker 1: public vote of confidence, he still has leverage with players, 375 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:24,359 Speaker 1: or at least some level of respect. Well, they responded 376 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: so twice since that story came out, Miami's played excellent football. 377 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: They deserve credit. 378 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 7: Yeah, final story, Colin is Monday Night football, Micah Parsons 379 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 7: and the Packers hosting the Eagles. We're on opposite sides here, 380 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,360 Speaker 7: but we want to remind everybody that Philadelphia made a 381 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 7: push to land Micah Parsons when the Cowboys were allegedly 382 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 7: thinking they would trade Parsons. Of course, Dallas said they 383 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 7: had zero interest in setting. 384 00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Him to a division rival. 385 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,920 Speaker 7: According to a report, Dallas did not want him going 386 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 7: to the Eagles so badly they are included a poison 387 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 7: pill condition in the trade, stating that if the Packers 388 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 7: send him to any team in the NFC East, it'll 389 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 7: cost them a twenty twenty eight first round pick. Jerry 390 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,479 Speaker 7: Jones really does not want Micah in Philly. 391 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 3: So that's a fun little supply. 392 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,920 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, you don't even want to send him 393 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:19,760 Speaker 1: to an NFC team, and if you do, you're gonna 394 00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: make sure he's not going back to burn you in division. 395 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:24,359 Speaker 1: So for years and years there was kind of a 396 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:28,240 Speaker 1: rule you never trade a star in conference. So the 397 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 1: fact that they did that Dallas is like, Okay, we'll 398 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: do it. You're not sending him to the Giants or 399 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:35,600 Speaker 1: the Eagles. It's not gonna work out that And so 400 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: I I think green Bay doesn't want to trade him. 401 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 1: I mean, they didn't give you all these first round 402 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,439 Speaker 1: picks because they're gonna move him. And he's a very 403 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: good player. He's in his prime for the next five years, 404 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:48,680 Speaker 1: and I think it's very I think green Bay accepted 405 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: that for a lot of reasons. It's reasonable and they're 406 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,600 Speaker 1: not moving off Micah. 407 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 4: Yeah. 408 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 7: If I told you today I see green Bay and 409 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 7: Buffalo in the Super Bowl, you would say. 410 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Not gonna happen. If I told you it is rams 411 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 1: in Kansas City, you would say, I think the Rams 412 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: pick is good. 413 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,160 Speaker 7: I don't know if the case is a playoff team. 414 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 7: Ton I'm sorry they got dead for this week. Favored 415 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:16,840 Speaker 7: Big Lee on the road. 416 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 5: Okay. 417 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: J Mack with the news. 418 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by The 419 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:25,880 Speaker 2: Herd Line News. 420 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 3: All sorts of stuff. 421 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: Oh boy, okay, yeah, Brian dabols out in New York, 422 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: these New York football operations. I mean that the Giants 423 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: looked at the Jets and said, oh, that worked out 424 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: so well. Firing solimn mid season. I think we'll just 425 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 1: copy him. 426 00:19:48,680 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: Brother, It's the Herd. 427 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,399 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 428 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,919 Speaker 2: in noon eastern non am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 429 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 430 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:11,520 Speaker 1: So Giants fired their head coach, Brian Dable. The guy 431 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:16,680 Speaker 1: that will be the interim former NFL player Mike Kofka, 432 00:20:16,720 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: he's interviewed for several jobs, has not landed those jobs. 433 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 1: But Matt hassel Back a couple of hours ago on 434 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 1: Kafka and the Kafka and the move going forward for 435 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: the Giants. 436 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 10: And they're going to do a full search on anybody 437 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 10: on the planet that they think can help get it right. 438 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 10: But they have this guy that this is like a 439 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 10: little bit of an audition. I mean, he's the guy 440 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,199 Speaker 10: for the last wedding like three or four years. His 441 00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 10: name surfaces every time because they think that he's a. 442 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 5: Great quarterback whisperer. Let's see. 443 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,919 Speaker 10: His personality is completely different than Brian Daball. 444 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 5: Brian Daball's got it. 445 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 10: Where's his emotion? 446 00:20:49,320 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 5: Like? You see it, you know it. 447 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 10: Mike Kafka is not like that. So it's an opportunity 448 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 10: for the Giants to see what they have. 449 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll see. I mean again quarterback and has a 450 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: connection with Jackson Dart. Let's see how it works. Robert 451 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,600 Speaker 1: Griffin came on. He's got a different. 452 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 3: Idea for the Giants. 453 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 5: I think they need to get rid of everybody. 454 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 4: I don't love the fact that they fired Brian Dable 455 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 4: at this point in the season. 456 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:19,200 Speaker 5: You're two and eight. 457 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 4: Normally, when coaches get fired in season, it's because you 458 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,400 Speaker 4: already know the guy that you want to go get 459 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 4: and you want to get ahead of that, or you're 460 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:27,400 Speaker 4: thinking it's going to spark the team. 461 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 5: This team is out out of the playoffs. But here 462 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 5: we are, so I. 463 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: Think the only rightful decision for them to make now 464 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,880 Speaker 4: is to go hire Lane Kiffin as a head coach, 465 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:38,280 Speaker 4: because that's the only guy that knows Jackson Dart better 466 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,520 Speaker 4: than any other coach in the NFL and is going 467 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 4: to be able to get the best out of him. 468 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll tell you strike when the iron is hot, 469 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 1: and right now on Lane Kiffen, the iron is hot. 470 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:54,639 Speaker 1: I if i'm Lane Kiffin's agent, which I'm sure it's 471 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: Jimmy Sexton. He's everybody's agent in college. I did the NFL. 472 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: It was a it was old Al Davis and the Raiders. 473 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:05,880 Speaker 1: You can always go back to college, Lane Kiffin, junk, 474 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:07,000 Speaker 1: You can always. 475 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 3: Go back to college. 476 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: You're not gonna get a New York Giants offer again. 477 00:22:14,119 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: Right and by the way, Ole miss, this is about 478 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: where it's gonna be. Kaylin de Boor is not going 479 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 1: anywhere to Alabama. Kirby Smart's not an NFL guy. He's 480 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,199 Speaker 1: got to go to college as go to college job 481 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 1: or you're. 482 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:29,920 Speaker 3: Gonna have a Georgia. So, Kirby Smart and Kaylen de 483 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: Boor are humming. 484 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 1: Texas. A and M has boatloads of money and everybody 485 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: loves that coach. Stark's gonna probably make it for some 486 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: time at Texas. So it's a very crowded SCC. Or 487 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: you can go to the NFL. You're gonna make a 488 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: lot of money. You already got your quarterback and you 489 00:22:54,119 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: like him. Now, Matt rule to the NFL didn't work, 490 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: but I didn't necessarily. First of all, that organization and 491 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: that owner at that time highly temperamental, very erratic. The 492 00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: Mars aren't erratic. I don't know if they're highly competent, 493 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: but they're not erratic. 494 00:23:17,440 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 3: I don't know. 495 00:23:18,240 --> 00:23:20,040 Speaker 1: I'm just saying, if I was Laye Kiffin, I can 496 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 1: come back to college and Texas A and M's got 497 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,480 Speaker 1: more money than Old Miss. Georgia's got more money than 498 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,879 Speaker 1: Old Miss, and Alabama's got a much bigger brand than 499 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: oll Miss. Well what about LSU the governor runs the program? No, 500 00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,439 Speaker 1: thank you, So i'd go pro. I would go to 501 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 1: Miami or the Giants if I was laying Kiffin. 502 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 3: Colin, can I throw a curveball at you? Okay? 503 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,879 Speaker 7: And I'm not saying that this job is better than 504 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,439 Speaker 7: the Giants, But the Tennessee Titans job is open. It 505 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 7: is in a much more winnable division. Hold on, hold on, 506 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 7: because we don't know if the Colts are going to 507 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 7: be good. Let's just be real, do we know Jacksonville's 508 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,359 Speaker 7: myer to mediocrity and the Texans seem to be flailing? Okay, 509 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,159 Speaker 7: Philadelphia Eagles are not going anywhere and cam Word was 510 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 7: the number one pick overwhelmingly. Are we sure the Giants 511 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 7: job is better than Tennessee Because the. 512 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: GM right now in New York, I don't know how. 513 00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 7: The hell he's still employed. He has made blunder after blunder, 514 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 7: extending Jones, moving off Barkley. I mean, I don't know 515 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:22,000 Speaker 7: how he's still got his job. 516 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 517 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 7: I would definitely take the Giants over Tennessee. 518 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:32,919 Speaker 1: Well, you would probably have more pull in Tennessee the 519 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:34,639 Speaker 1: media and Tennessee how are they to deal with? 520 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:36,560 Speaker 5: That's what I thought. 521 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you go to New York. Those guys 522 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 3: are rabbit. They want wins. 523 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,760 Speaker 7: They think that this is still a franchise that won 524 00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 7: a bunch of Super Bowls with parcels. 525 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 1: Gay, you know what the New York football operations are now, 526 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: and like this is understood in the league. You use 527 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,240 Speaker 1: them to get a better offer. 528 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 5: Yeah. 529 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: I mean Mike Rabel was rumored to be with the Jets. 530 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 3: Oh please, he didn't want to be with the Jets. 531 00:24:56,520 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: He wanted he wanted the Patriots job. And Josh McDaniel. 532 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 1: That's what people do in this league. Harball was rumored, 533 00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:08,400 Speaker 1: Oh Jim Harball New York. New York football operations are 534 00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: used by the top guys to end up going places 535 00:25:14,119 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 1: that are better jobs, just. 536 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 7: Like the New York Knicks for years, remember all the 537 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 7: Kevin Durant. 538 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 3: Lebron all this stuff. 539 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,879 Speaker 7: They were never going to go play for Dolan And 540 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,359 Speaker 7: now you got Woody Johnson and Lamara family. 541 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,160 Speaker 3: And but honestly, how many wins did. 542 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,720 Speaker 7: You say in the playoffs for the Giants in the 543 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 7: last decade? 544 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 3: Is it one? 545 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 7: Yeah? 546 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 3: That Daniel Zones went over Minnesota. 547 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 7: Yeah, I just don't think it's as great of a 548 00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 7: job as everybody else does. 549 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: Well, no, I think. I mean, I listen, there are 550 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. The job is as good as the quarterback. 551 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,760 Speaker 1: If you have a quarterback that's good in his prime, 552 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 1: Like when Mike McCarthy got the Packers job, that was 553 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: a great job. Aaron Rodgers late prime, that's as good 554 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: as it gets Yeah, I think Mike McCarthy getting Dak 555 00:25:55,280 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: that's a really good job. Horball getting her that's an 556 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: a job, but most jobs. And that's why I'm saying, 557 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,159 Speaker 1: Jackson Dart in the building and you've coached him for 558 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: three years, Lane Kiffin, pretty good. 559 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 7: Gig Let me ask you can Jet, what's the ceiling 560 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 7: on Jackson Dart? Can he be a top ten quarterback 561 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 7: in the NFL. 562 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 1: At this current time? He can't stay out of the tent. 563 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,760 Speaker 7: So he can't really be. So I don't again. I 564 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 7: know people are gonna be like, you're an idiot. 565 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 3: That's fine. 566 00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,760 Speaker 7: I would rather have draft picks galore like the Jets 567 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 7: than be wedded to Well, let's see what Jackson Darts 568 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:33,199 Speaker 7: got for another year. 569 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: I just whoever gets Fernando Mendoza from Indiana that is 570 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: an a prospect. 571 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:46,919 Speaker 3: I like him a lot. He is a nice drive against. 572 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:53,000 Speaker 1: Stake first of all, brainiac major league size, big boy arm. 573 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 1: I mean, there's not and he can move enough. He's 574 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: an a prospect, like like Caleb was an a prospect, 575 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 1: Rake May was an a prospect. Jaden Daniels was great, 576 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: but he was spindily and we worried about that. But 577 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: Jackson Darts a B prospect, cam Ward probably a B 578 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:13,640 Speaker 1: plus prospect. You don't get many a's you can get 579 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: about every other year. Joe Burrow was an A prospect, 580 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning was an A prospect. You know, get a 581 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: lot of A prospects. Most of these guys, to me, 582 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: they're all B prospects. 583 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: I like Dante Moore. Mendoza is an A prospect. He's 584 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,360 Speaker 3: got multiple years of starting though. 585 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:34,200 Speaker 1: Mendoza, well, he's also big with an a arm. 586 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:35,080 Speaker 2: Yes. 587 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 7: More in Simpson, like again, I like Simpson a lot, 588 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 7: but it's one year? Is he a twenty two twenty 589 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 7: three year first super senior dominating him? 590 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,240 Speaker 1: In Ty Simpson When he was at Alabama, he didn't 591 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:47,439 Speaker 1: play much for three years. 592 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: For three years. 593 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,280 Speaker 1: If you were all that twenty nine or fifty five 594 00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:56,160 Speaker 1: with no touchdowns, he was a fifty five percent completion guy. 595 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 1: I mean he was that duty yeah, yeah, or forty 596 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: eight fIF fifty eight, yeah, I mean he just wasn't. 597 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, now he gets to bore 598 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 1: the right oh see the right receivers. I'm Mendoz is 599 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: doing it with B level talent. They don't have a 600 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: lot of five star guys in Indiana. 601 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 7: Yeah, and here's the best part. If you're the Jets, 602 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 7: not to take it away from the Giants, you draft 603 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,840 Speaker 7: Mendoza and you don't like what you see and Aaron 604 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 7: Glenn doesn't work, you just move on. You got three 605 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 7: picks in the first round the following year, So, which 606 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 7: which apparently is. 607 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: A really to draft. 608 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,640 Speaker 1: I don't say this very often. Mendoz is gonna work. 609 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 1: That's not to think he would. 610 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's an NFL quarterback. 611 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: Mendoz is an NFL If he goes draft at number 612 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: one or two, you're like, yeah, that's what that's what 613 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:39,680 Speaker 1: it should look like. 614 00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 7: Can we see him against the Ohio State defense, which 615 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 7: is freaking elite. 616 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,400 Speaker 3: Nobody is gonna move the ball in Ohio State. Well, 617 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 3: I want to see him do it? Can he do it? 618 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 2: Can he know? 619 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 3: You don't think he's gonna be able to leave any 620 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,000 Speaker 3: competitive in that game? Competitive? 621 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 1: Yes, competitive, but I don't think he's gonna move the 622 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 1: ball particularly well against Ohio State. Ohio State's got one 623 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 1: of the best defenses the last fifteen years. 624 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 7: If he vomits all over himself, you know, nine of 625 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 7: twenty five seventy five yards passing. I think then we 626 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 7: got some real questions because that defense has some NFL 627 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 7: dudes on it. 628 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 3: Well, you know Penn State's defenses. 629 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 1: We saw Indiana played Notre Dame last year, who had 630 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: better players, and Ohio State's got defensively much better players 631 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,120 Speaker 1: than India than Notre Dame had last year. 632 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 10: Yeah. 633 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 7: By the way, Notre Dame's a sneaky team to go 634 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 7: deep in the College Football Playoff. 635 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:29,120 Speaker 3: They are built. Great coach. How good is that running 636 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: back Love? Jeremiah Love? He's awesome. 637 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 9: Oh. 638 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: By the way, New York Giants, do you at least 639 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 3: call Marcus Freeman? 640 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:35,480 Speaker 5: Think you have to? 641 00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: You have to. If you have an NFL opening, you've 642 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: got to ask Marcus Freeman. 643 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 7: He's probably not gonna take it, but he is. I 644 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 7: just think that guy's freaking awesome. One of the best 645 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:45,560 Speaker 7: coaches in the country. 646 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:51,440 Speaker 1: All Right, good stuff today, tonight's Packers Eagles. I like Philly. 647 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 1: I think getting Jalen Phillips, I think they grabbed a 648 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: corner JayR Alexander with that. 649 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 7: I don't know if he's going to play tonight. Yeah, 650 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 7: they had some pickups. I'll go Packers twenty seven to 651 00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 7: twenty three. 652 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: Your score reverse at Philly twenty seven twenty three. So 653 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,600 Speaker 1: it was it was I had a winning, blazing five week. 654 00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: I took all favorites. 655 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 3: I took it. 656 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: One underdog I took did not work. Yeah, I took 657 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: four favorites, three of them won, and I took the 658 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:22,800 Speaker 1: Steelers last night. And that wasn't even. 659 00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,040 Speaker 3: Five street winning weeks for you? 660 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 1: No, uh no, it's uh. I was four and one, 661 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:29,160 Speaker 1: four and one, four and one, two and three, three 662 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: and two. 663 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 7: Oh okay, but nice thing. You remember all of your weeks, 664 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000 Speaker 7: colle huh give that when you're hot, right, yeah, nobody 665 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 7: remembers the start of last season. 666 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 3: For the record, I didn't love the numbers last week. 667 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: Uh. If you you've seen the numbers today. 668 00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:48,680 Speaker 3: It's you mean the lines, the lines? Yeah, yeah, yeah. 669 00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 7: The Patriots are huge favorites against the Jets on Thursday 670 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: night football. 671 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Six of seven winning weeks for blazing five, six of 672 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: seven winning weeks. 673 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 3: Glad the staff is all over there. There's some real 674 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: I'm just. 675 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 7: Telling you this weekend coming up, cancel your Sunday plans. 676 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 3: No runs for you in Shytown. There are some good ones. 677 00:31:07,320 --> 00:31:10,560 Speaker 1: There are some, Hey, Seattle at the RAMS Game of 678 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:16,240 Speaker 1: the Year NFC Championship preview, Yeah, Seahawks at RAMS Game 679 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 1: of the Year in the NFL, at least the NFC