1 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: What is Securing America with me, Frank Effney, the program 2 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: that's a kind of owner's manual for protecting the country 3 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 1: we love against all enemies foreign and domestic, to the 4 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,000 Speaker 1: glory of God and his Kingdom. We're going to be 5 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: talking about threats domestic for the moment with one of 6 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: our duty experts on the subject. We're going to talk about, 7 00:00:44,600 --> 00:00:50,159 Speaker 1: in particular a phenomenon that has recently emerged in New 8 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 1: York City. And just to set the stage briefly, I 9 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: personally believe what we are witnessing is the fruit of 10 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: decades of indoctrination, brainwashing really of our young people by 11 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the assorted communists that have been very profoundly dominating our 12 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:23,679 Speaker 1: educational institutions and increasingly their partners among the jihadists of 13 00:01:23,680 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: the Muslim Brotherhood notably. And we are witnessing this coming 14 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 1: together at a moment in which what has been called 15 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: the Red Green Axis has more troops at its disposal 16 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: than ever before thanks to Joe Biden's open borders, but 17 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 1: now is also being able to tap into that cohort 18 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: of the younger generations in our country for the purposes 19 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 1: of possibly achieving the shared goal of the communists and 20 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: the namely taking down the United States of America. We're 21 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: going to talk about all of this and much more 22 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,080 Speaker 1: for this hour. I'm very pleased to say with Trevor Loudon. 23 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 1: Trevor is bi national treasure. I call him hilling originally 24 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: from New Zealand, now very much a leading force here 25 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: in the United States, especially on matters involving what he 26 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: calls the enemy within. That's the title of one of 27 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 1: his best books and most important movies. He's talked about 28 00:02:30,000 --> 00:02:32,840 Speaker 1: the enemies within the Church. He's chronicled the enemies within 29 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: our Congress multi volume sets, security Risk, Senators, and the 30 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: House on Americans. We're going to get into all of 31 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: this with him, and I'm grateful as always for his 32 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: time as well as his expertise. Trevor Ladden, welcome back 33 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 1: to Securing America, my friend. 34 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 2: Well, great to be on, Frank, thanks for having me. 35 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 1: We're delighted to Trevor. I thought of you immediately when 36 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: I learned, as I think a lot of other shocked 37 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 1: individuals across our country did that. A chap by the 38 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: name of Zoron Mamdani has been tapped by Democrats in 39 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 1: New York City to become their nominee for mayor of 40 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: one of America's largest and most important cities. You've done 41 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 1: some research into this chap. What have you established about 42 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:37,119 Speaker 1: him and in particular the sort of red green axis 43 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: elements that he seems to personify. 44 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,440 Speaker 2: Well, look, he is the post boy for the modern 45 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: red green axis. He is a member of Democratic Socialists 46 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 2: of America, and he is Shia Islam and a Twelva, 47 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: a proud twelva, meaning he follows the same variant of 48 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:04,760 Speaker 2: Islam that is the official state religion in the Islamic 49 00:04:04,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: Republic of Iran. So you know, he's been backed by 50 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 2: both factions he works for. He was supported by Care 51 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: to the tune of one hundred thousand dollars. Works very 52 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: closely with Students for Justice in Palestine, with all of 53 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 2: these Muslim student association. But he's a formal member of 54 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 2: Democratic Socialists of America, and we need to understand that 55 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: that is a communist organization. They have very close relationships 56 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 2: with Cuba. They've sent delegations to Cuba in recent times, 57 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,719 Speaker 2: have had Cuban officials visiting their branches around the country. 58 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 2: That allied with several European communist parties and Third world 59 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:54,880 Speaker 2: communist parties. This is a communist group, and he was 60 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: backed by the Communist Party USA and all of the 61 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: other radical groups in New York. So this was a 62 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: classic case of what we've seen, you know, what we've 63 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 2: seen at Columbia University, where his father is a professor, 64 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 2: by the way, what we've seen that since October seventh, 65 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: this coalition of hardcore radical forces, all anti as well, 66 00:05:21,120 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 2: all anti America, coming together to create chaos. And now 67 00:05:25,760 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 2: they've elected. Now the Democrats have allowed one of the 68 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 2: poster boys to fly the flag for them in the 69 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: upcoming Merit of New York mayoral election. 70 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,040 Speaker 1: Let's drill Downoad a couple of these pieces, Trevor, because 71 00:05:42,040 --> 00:05:47,960 Speaker 1: I think it's hard to overstate how radical this chap 72 00:05:48,200 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: actually is. The twelve are ideology, if you will, or 73 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: theology as especially exemplified, as you say, by the Iranians. 74 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: There are some who claim that, well, you know, he's 75 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 1: from I think East Africa, and you know it's not 76 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: as virulent there as it is in Iran. But the 77 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: basic premise of the Twelvers, as I understand it, is 78 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: that there's a twelfth Imam, so called Messiah figure or Mahdi, 79 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: who is going to come out of a well in 80 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 1: which he has been residing since the eighth century, and 81 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: he's going to usher in the golden age of Islam 82 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: when he does in response to what sounds an awful 83 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: lot like apocalyptic misery, suffering, and appeals for mercy. Is 84 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: it possible that the chap who might run the city 85 00:06:51,839 --> 00:06:55,599 Speaker 1: of New York could have such views? And what well, 86 00:06:55,880 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 1: just if he does? 87 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, he is a proud Twelva boasts about it, 88 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 2: but he works with all factions of Islam in the 89 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: state in New York. But yeah, the Twelvers believe that 90 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:13,679 Speaker 2: they can hasten the return of the twelfth MM by 91 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 2: creating chaos and anarchy on Earth, which is why Iran 92 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 2: has been meddling and involved in terrorism ever since the 93 00:07:22,720 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: establishment of the Republic, setting up setting up Hezbolla cells 94 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 2: in America starting from the mid eighties. You know, so, yes, 95 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:36,400 Speaker 2: I don't think it's just possible. I think it's highly probable. 96 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 2: Why would he boast about it? You know, he knows 97 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,840 Speaker 2: his base, his Islamic base, understands what a twelve means, 98 00:07:45,400 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: He understands what is sa base means. He understands how 99 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 2: the Sunnis would react to this, And of course he's 100 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:56,760 Speaker 2: got in both camps because he is involved with all 101 00:07:56,800 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 2: the Sunni fronts, you know, Care and Students for Justice 102 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: and Palestine, et cetera. Because you know, we know that 103 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 2: Iran is a major backer of Hamas in Israel, et cetera. 104 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:15,440 Speaker 2: So there is no real delineation as far as terrorism 105 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 2: goes between the Shah forms of Islam and Sunni and he. 106 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: If I met Trevor, I think even more to the point, 107 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:32,679 Speaker 1: while there may be differences, they are subordinated by both 108 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:37,520 Speaker 1: sides in the interest of achieving a shared objective, are 109 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: they not? 110 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 3: And will objective be in this case. 111 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 2: The destruction of America constructure of Israel. Well, you know 112 00:08:45,800 --> 00:08:49,439 Speaker 2: he's made common cause he's a member of Democratic Socialists 113 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,040 Speaker 2: of America, which about as woke as you can get. 114 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: It's very pro gay, it's very pro feminists, it's hardcore 115 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: left wing. But the point, which would you'd think would 116 00:09:02,280 --> 00:09:07,160 Speaker 2: not be very receptive to the philosophy of the Islamic 117 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: Republic of Iran. But yeah, or vice versa. But as 118 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 2: you say, a common enemy trumps the differences. The red 119 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 2: green axes is together because they have very different philosophies 120 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 2: in some areas, but they both hate the West. 121 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 1: They both want to bring, specifically to eliminate the principal 122 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: obstacle in the West to their goals, which is us. Trevor, 123 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: all the thought, We'll be right back with much more 124 00:09:37,640 --> 00:10:01,719 Speaker 1: short break. Welcome back, and a very special welcome once 125 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:07,480 Speaker 1: again to Trevor Lauden, the author of numerous books, countless articles, 126 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: myriad podcasts, director and producer of important films, including The 127 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,920 Speaker 1: Enemy Within and The Enemy Within the Church, our go 128 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: to guy on matters involving this phenomenon of enemies domestic, 129 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: or as he calls it, enemies within, and the urgent 130 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:34,560 Speaker 1: necessity for our exposing and rolling them up, as their 131 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 1: object is nothing less than the destruction of our country. 132 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: We're talking about this phenomenon in the context of this 133 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: individual who seems to exemplify what both the red the communists, 134 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: and the Green the Sharia supremacists as I call them, 135 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: seek to do soor on mam Dani is his name, 136 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 1: and Trevor, you mentioned that several times. 137 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: I think that. 138 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: He is a full on member of the Democratic Socialists 139 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: of America, and one of the things that's been so 140 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: striking to me, and going through some of your research 141 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: about well, a lot of politicians, mostly I think on 142 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: the Democratic side, maybe Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders for 143 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 1: sure as well, but principally in the Democratic Party is 144 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:39,680 Speaker 1: the numbers that have ties to this entity, and you've 145 00:11:39,679 --> 00:11:44,240 Speaker 1: discussed some of the outfits that are aligned with it 146 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: and work closely with it. I don't think you mentioned 147 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 1: the Chinese Communist Party, but I think that's one of 148 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 1: the Third World groups that you've got in mind. Talk 149 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 1: about that and what the penetration of Congress, both the 150 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: House and the Senate, and previous administrations for that matter, 151 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: means in terms of the danger we face from this 152 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:18,160 Speaker 1: Democratic Socialists of America, especially if New York City were 153 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: to become governed by one of their own. 154 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: Well, look, it wouldn't be the first time. You know, 155 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:29,439 Speaker 2: one of New York's worst periods was in the early 156 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 2: nineties under David Dinkins, where crime went through the roof, 157 00:12:34,400 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 2: you know, the prostitution, drugs, crime were rampant in Times Square, 158 00:12:38,679 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 2: the tourists was Danying way Well. Dinkins was a member 159 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:46,240 Speaker 2: of Democratic Socialists of America. He was a Marxist. But 160 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 2: he wasn't a twelve a Shia Muslim. He was compared 161 00:12:51,559 --> 00:12:54,840 Speaker 2: to today's Democratic Socialists of America, he was a moderate, 162 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: but he wrecked New York. Giuliani had to fix his mess. 163 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 2: This guy will be way worse. And the fact is, 164 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: in those days, Democratic Socials of America had about five 165 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: or six thousand members. Now it's got eighty thousand. It's 166 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 2: got at least six of their members already on the 167 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 2: New York City Council, it's got a whole bunch in 168 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 2: the state legislature. Jerry Nadler, one of the top Democrats 169 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,600 Speaker 2: in the country, has been a card carrying member for many, 170 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 2: many years, so they've got a real support base. They 171 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,559 Speaker 2: have also, and I believe about twenty thousand dsays were 172 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:36,960 Speaker 2: involved in the campaign. They were phone banking from Los 173 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 2: Angeles and Seattle and Arizona. They had I think DSA 174 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 2: New York is about five thousand members strong. Plus they 175 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: control a whole bunch of unions, and they have infiltrated 176 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: the Democratic Party at every level. So Mandami had an 177 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: army at DSAM, just like AOC did a few years 178 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: ago when he became a congresswoman and very possibly at 179 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:09,400 Speaker 2: a Democratic presidential candidate in the in the next election. 180 00:14:10,840 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 2: So DSA is a very powerful organization now, but it 181 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 2: is a communist organization. As I said, it is directly 182 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 2: linked to the Cuban Communist Party. It is sympathetic in 183 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 2: some ways to the Chinese Communist Party. It overlaps. They 184 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 2: share membership with groups like the Freedom Road Socialist Organization, 185 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 2: which are explicitly pro China. So this is as about 186 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 2: as serious as it gets. You've got a complete pro 187 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 2: Cuban Marxist and a twelve a twelve of Sharia Muslim 188 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 2: all rolled into one little ball, about to assume the 189 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: leadership of a heavily Jewish major financial center in America. 190 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: And in that regard the the extent to which some 191 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 1: are saying, well, you know, he won't be able to 192 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: really run everything because the arrangement whereby finances and a 193 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: lot of governing decisions are made in New York State 194 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 1: is a resident in the legislature and in particular in 195 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 1: the governor. The governor is up for reelection next year. 196 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: She does not want to raise taxes. Mamdania apparently is 197 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: made that centerpiece of his campaign for affordability in New 198 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,720 Speaker 1: York City. To what extent do you think we could 199 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: see a real break on his radicalism and his agenda 200 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 1: by virtue of these other sort of checks in the 201 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 1: system or they you know, problematic as well. 202 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: Well, look there are no checks now. Look, Hokeel will 203 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 2: be scared of a DSA candidate running against her for governor. 204 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 2: Chuck schum is already very worried about the power of 205 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:21,119 Speaker 2: the DSA and is sympathetic has worked with DSA himself 206 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 2: in the past. So yeah, look that the hard left 207 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 2: has taken over the Democratic Party in New York State. 208 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 2: That is the reality of it. This could not have 209 00:16:32,520 --> 00:16:39,760 Speaker 2: happened among many in Illinois, in California, Washington, Oregon, many 210 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: are Michigan. Many other states are in a similar position. 211 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:47,520 Speaker 2: Minnesota very much so. And so they are electing city 212 00:16:47,600 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 2: councilors and mayors and schoolboard people all over the country. 213 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: The power of DSA is not so much that they've 214 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 2: got eighty thousand members, is that many of those members 215 00:16:59,240 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: control very powerful labor unions like SCIU, like ask me. 216 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: So they have access to the union money, they have 217 00:17:07,880 --> 00:17:11,199 Speaker 2: access to the Working Families Party, they have access to 218 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 2: a whole bunch of machines, including the Democratic Party machine. 219 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: So this is like Lenin's Bolsheviks. You know two thousand 220 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 2: Bolsheviks took over Russia. Well, there's a lot more than 221 00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: two thousand diazaias, and they have a lot more power 222 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 2: and a lot more union control than the Bolsheviks ever had, 223 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 2: So we shouldn't underestimate their influence. 224 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:39,720 Speaker 1: And they're also endlessly being supported by the media. Yes, 225 00:17:40,040 --> 00:17:45,399 Speaker 1: I listened this morning to a broadcast on NPR, which 226 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:49,840 Speaker 1: is despite the public financing that it's still getting despite 227 00:17:49,920 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 1: Donald Trump's best efforts. There the line is always the 228 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,880 Speaker 1: left line. First, I can tell they did an entire 229 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: interview about this fellow without mentioning either, at least as 230 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 1: I heard it, that he's a Muslim, let alone of 231 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: hard left communists. I think there might have been a 232 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:12,879 Speaker 1: passing reference to the fact that he was progressive, but 233 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure that was the case. And could 234 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,520 Speaker 1: you just help us understand the coding. I mean, the 235 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: left is absolutely brilliant at concealing the truth with their 236 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: manipulation of the language. But when we're told someone is 237 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:32,840 Speaker 1: a progressive, does that in fact mean that they're you know, 238 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: really hard left. 239 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,879 Speaker 2: Well, it's a signal, it's a dog whistle to the base, 240 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, because progressive means, in the original context of 241 00:18:42,520 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: the word on the left, progressive was one who sympathized 242 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 2: with communist goals and believed in the progress of mankind 243 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: towards a communist future. So when the left talks about 244 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 2: a progressive democrat, that talking about a pro communist democrat. 245 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,200 Speaker 2: But that's progressive. Sounds a nice term, just like they 246 00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 2: co opted the term liberal, which once had some respectability, 247 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 2: and now they ran out of juice on liberals. So 248 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:16,719 Speaker 2: now they've gone progressive. But the base understands progressive means 249 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 2: pro communist. 250 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: All that thought, we're coming back to it very promptly. 251 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: Triveral Loud extraordinary resource, and what I commended to you 252 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: about him is that everything he says is documented. He's 253 00:19:33,040 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: very assiduous in ensuring he's got the fact straight. His 254 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: books are therefore all the more compelling. We wrote back 255 00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: with more s. 256 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:02,640 Speaker 2: Welcome back. 257 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,239 Speaker 1: I'm very pleased that we have a full hour of 258 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:10,600 Speaker 1: Trevor Lowden's time, and we are halfway through our discussion 259 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: with him, using as kind of a well prime example, 260 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: if you will, of phenomena that are perilous for our 261 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: country's future, that are unfortunately much in evidence in the 262 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: person of Zoron Mamdani, the now Democratic nominee for mayor 263 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: in the City of New York and Trevor. You've talked 264 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:47,680 Speaker 1: a bit about the twelve you know, Shia Sharia agenda 265 00:20:47,800 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 1: that this fellow apparently embraces. You've talked a bit about 266 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: the Democratic Socialists of America Communist agenda he apparently embraces. 267 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 1: I wanted to just well back to how he won 268 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: and maybe start with the organizing. I think you mentioned 269 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: that there were phone banks and you know, door to 270 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: door campaigns, Democratic Socialists of America personnel brought to bear 271 00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: all over the country. There you know a lot of 272 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:29,880 Speaker 1: reports about the unions being very actively involved, not least 273 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: social media as a campaign tool for sort of promoting 274 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:39,840 Speaker 1: him with I guess the TikTokers principally as well will 275 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: come to you know, sort of where this is translated 276 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:49,400 Speaker 1: into particular power with the younger generation. But just talk 277 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: a little bit about the instruments whereby this guy pulled 278 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: off this, this thrashing defeat of Andrew Cuoma. 279 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 2: Wells said. The Democratic Socialist America are tied into several 280 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 2: unions as Sunrise Movement. They all overlap, so there's the 281 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,919 Speaker 2: Working Families Party, they work with, the Liberation Road people, 282 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: the pro Chinese communists who javi us Black Lives Matter, 283 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 2: so this is a nexus of all these hardcore radical groups. 284 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,960 Speaker 2: But they get a lot of government funding, They get 285 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 2: a lot of state funding, they get a lot of 286 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 2: union funding, they get all the money, a lot of 287 00:22:27,040 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 2: Soros funding, a lot of foundation funding, so they are 288 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 2: very very well funded. But what they also have is 289 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 2: this eighty thousand DSA members spread all over the country 290 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 2: who focus in on a race. That's what they did 291 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:47,199 Speaker 2: with AOC. You know when AOC ran, she didn't just 292 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 2: have a couple of dozen volunteers like your average Democrat 293 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:55,119 Speaker 2: would have. She had thousands of local dsayers who would 294 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: be working in union jobs and take paid time off 295 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 2: to campaign for her. They had phone bankers from all 296 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,400 Speaker 2: over the country. People were shipped in from all over 297 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,560 Speaker 2: the country, so he would have had an army of 298 00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:12,760 Speaker 2: estimated fifty thousand people working from twenty thousand of them dsays. 299 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 2: So you can see that's a lot of people to 300 00:23:17,880 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: go against one Democrat. So they basically just pulled the 301 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: whole resources from all over the country to focus on 302 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 2: one race, and that's how they pull off these wins. 303 00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: And that's how they're racking up wins in Chicago and 304 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,399 Speaker 2: the City Council LA. They've got three members on the 305 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 2: LA City Council plus a whole bunch of sympathizers. So 306 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: it's just basic math. It's people on the ground and money. 307 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 2: But we've got to understand DSA controls a financial empire 308 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 2: and an empire of soldiers, an army of soldiers which 309 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,680 Speaker 2: will concentrate on week points where they see a weak 310 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 2: Democrat like Coomo they zero win. So it's not surprising 311 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 2: they win. 312 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 1: Is there also evidence that there were volunteers coming out 313 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:17,919 Speaker 1: of Muslim brotherhood front organizations. 314 00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 2: As well, you know, care, Students for Justice and Palestine, 315 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 2: Muslim Student Association, all of the Islamic groups in New 316 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: York were heavily involved in this campaign. So they can 317 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 2: and he got a lot of good vote. You know, 318 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 2: there are certain Muslim enclaves in New York which you 319 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,480 Speaker 2: were obviously mobilized. So you know, this is we've got undersaid. 320 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: This is very scientific. You know, the Democrats and Republicans, 321 00:24:43,200 --> 00:24:47,400 Speaker 2: they have some degree of data science, but the DSA 322 00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 2: comrades Liberation Road. They they are super scientific. Like the 323 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 2: Liberation Road people, for instance, use computerized maps generated out 324 00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 2: of the geography department of Wuhan University, China to win 325 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: their elections in America. So this is this is a 326 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,119 Speaker 2: this is a foreign directed operation that we've seen playing 327 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,680 Speaker 2: out in our in our cities and streets. 328 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:18,440 Speaker 1: And I remember this, This chap who is a professor 329 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 1: there at the university who's doing this is actually an 330 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,160 Speaker 1: American expat. Yeah. 331 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Steve McClure, a maoist, an American maist working 332 00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,920 Speaker 2: out of the geography department of Wuhan University, China, providing 333 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 2: information to flip districts in Virginia. You know, this is 334 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 2: this is well known, This is easily established. But the 335 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 2: governor of Virginia has done nothing about this. 336 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:47,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, it was in Virginia, is the case in point? 337 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,120 Speaker 1: I think it's presumably the case that he was doing 338 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,679 Speaker 1: it for other efforts as well. And one of the 339 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,320 Speaker 1: things that you've documented to a fairly well terror is 340 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 1: the extent to which the Chinese Communist part has been 341 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: running these get out the vote organizations in various swing 342 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 1: states in particular and substake. 343 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 2: So this is a scient very scientific. Demographics are completely analyzed, 344 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 2: voting patterns are analyzed, and foreign actors are involved in this. 345 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: But it's not illegal technically to register people to vote. 346 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 2: But what is illegal is if there is in kind 347 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,160 Speaker 2: donations of foreign entities into that effort, which is happening, 348 00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: absolutely happening well. 349 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: And what is also illegal, as we've been learning more 350 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,879 Speaker 1: and more about, is you know, the Chinese printing up 351 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: paper ballots VI, you know, otherwise interfering with electoral machinery 352 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: and the like and trigger. I guess what you're saying 353 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: here is in anticipation of this general election this fall, 354 00:26:55,400 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: where there may be two or three other candidates in 355 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: addition to Mamdani, is there may be a lot more 356 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 1: of this kind of well Democratic Socialists of America, Muslim 357 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 1: Brotherhood engineered grassroots ish or Astro turf if you will, 358 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:26,920 Speaker 1: you know, powerful work for this candidate. 359 00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,840 Speaker 2: And you've got to remember too, DSA used to have 360 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 2: a lot of influence in ACORN, the famous group that 361 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 2: was caught doing vote fraud all over the country. People 362 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 2: are prosecuted well. DSA and ACORN very much overlapped, so 363 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 2: you can bet if it comes down to the wire 364 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: and these opportunities for cheating, then that will occur. 365 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,920 Speaker 1: And Ecorn, as I recall, had gone out of business theoretically, 366 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 1: but in some cases that's simply package. 367 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 2: Well. The group that was Acorn in New York played 368 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 2: a major major role in Man Dami's election. You know, 369 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 2: Acorn is still in Texas. It's called the Texas Organizing 370 00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:20,800 Speaker 2: Project and Florida's called Florida Organizing. They still operate and 371 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,400 Speaker 2: it and the New York affiliate played a big role 372 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 2: in this. 373 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, as they used to say on Dragon, not only 374 00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: the names have been changed to fool the innocent, right. 375 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 2: That's right, That's that's exactly right. 376 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 1: So Trevor, let let me just back the lens up 377 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:36,800 Speaker 1: here a little bit and we'll start with this topic 378 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 1: and we'll probably continue it into the next block. But 379 00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: it's of surpassing importance, and I think what you've been 380 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: doing in your research has has helped illuminate this powerfully. 381 00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 1: But talk, if you would, about this fellow's base in 382 00:28:57,800 --> 00:29:01,360 Speaker 1: New York City. You've mentioned, of course, the organizational level, 383 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 1: but I'm thinking of the you know, the electorate it 384 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: appears from you know, the exit polling, I guess that 385 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: he was drawing heavily among the younger than forty five. 386 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 3: Voting blocks. 387 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: To what extent is what we're witnessing the inevitable, predictable, 388 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: predict dead for that matter, upshot of a generation or 389 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: two of you know, domination of our educational system by 390 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 1: the radical left, increasingly by you know, these these Islamists 391 00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 1: or Charia's supremacist outfits as well, and then enormously augmented 392 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: by you know, social media technology like TikTok. 393 00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, look, I hope this makes President Trump rethink his 394 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 2: softening on TikTok, because he used it to help himself 395 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:05,240 Speaker 2: get elected, but the left, his enemies, are using it 396 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: all over the country to get their people elected. President 397 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: Trump doesn't think that Zora and Mandami is going to 398 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: be a headache. He's not paying attention. He's going to 399 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,800 Speaker 2: be a major headache. He's going to oppose Ice. He's 400 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: going to do everything he can to bring the president down. 401 00:30:21,680 --> 00:30:25,840 Speaker 2: And I believe there will be major violence in New 402 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: York as a result of this, which is going to 403 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 2: have a major impact on President Trump's attempts to revive 404 00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 2: the US economy, which will have major impacts on his 405 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,760 Speaker 2: electoral chances both in the midterm and for whoever follows 406 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 2: him in twenty twenty eight. So this is the New 407 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 2: York's education. 408 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 1: That's a very provocative statement that this guy made countenence 409 00:30:51,520 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 1: violence in New York City. Well, is that just because 410 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 1: given the pedigree that you've laid out, that's that's what 411 00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: they do? 412 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:04,080 Speaker 2: Well? Like, Okay, his father, mad Mahmud mam Dami is 413 00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: a well known this. 414 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 1: This is a major topic, so I want to give 415 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,440 Speaker 1: us time to get into it. We're going to take 416 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: a short break here. On the other side, we will 417 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: talk about from whence Mamdami came in terms of his 418 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:26,680 Speaker 1: ideological upbringing, as well as some of these other problematic pedigrees. 419 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: Trevor Laudon is with us, the author and filmmaker of 420 00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:36,360 Speaker 1: The Enemy within Credible Resource, and we're delighted to be 421 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: able to pick us brains further about both this individual 422 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,440 Speaker 1: and the phenomenon he represents the Red Green axis. 423 00:31:43,520 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 3: Stay tuned, we're back. 424 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: Trevor Laden's in the house, Praise the Lord. We're talking 425 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 1: with him about this fellow, Zorhan Mamdani. He is a 426 00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 1: candidate for mayor of New York City. But he is 427 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: kind of an archetype of the politicians we may find 428 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: much more in evidence around the country if the techniques 429 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: that help defeat Andrew Cuomo are brought to bear, the 430 00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,760 Speaker 1: legions of volunteers, social media. 431 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 3: And so on. 432 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,440 Speaker 1: And it's important to also understand the ideological wellspring that 433 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,920 Speaker 1: he's tapped into. Part of it from his family. Pick 434 00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 1: up that thought if you would, Trevor. 435 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 2: Well, his mother is a radical filmmaker. She's a total 436 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: anti Israel activist. But the really important one here is 437 00:32:55,160 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 2: the father, Mahmoud Mandan Mandani. He is a professor at 438 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: Columbia University. But this is his claim to fame. He 439 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 2: is a scholar on colonialism. Okay, very Marxist term, but 440 00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:14,840 Speaker 2: what this is his belief that he is there has 441 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:21,960 Speaker 2: written books about terrorism, as exhibited say by Harmas in Israel. 442 00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: Is not terrorism because terrorism because it's a response. It's 443 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:34,000 Speaker 2: a freedom fighting response to Israeli colonialism. So if you're 444 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 2: fighting colonialism, no matter what methods you use, you cannot 445 00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 2: be a terrorist. It's impossible. So he is he is 446 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:49,280 Speaker 2: a huge supporter of the Harmas campaigns, a huge supporter 447 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 2: of BDS. But this is a central thing. This man's 448 00:33:54,160 --> 00:34:00,000 Speaker 2: the future, possible future. Meea's father believes and prommeel Gas 449 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 2: this belief on international academic circles. His whole thing is 450 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 2: fighting colonialism. And by definition, if you are fighting colonialism, 451 00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:18,440 Speaker 2: whether it was bombs, suicide, bombers, whatever, it's not terrorism. 452 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:26,320 Speaker 2: It is liberation struggles. So Mandami Junior as a militant 453 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:32,479 Speaker 2: anti police activist. He's a militant anti ice activist. He's 454 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 2: a militant anti Israel activist. He's threatened to fine businesses 455 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:42,360 Speaker 2: and nonprofits in New York. He's moved bills to this 456 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 2: that support Israel in any way. So if you use 457 00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 2: your private money to support Israel, if he has his way, 458 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: you can be fined or even jailed in New York 459 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: for doing so. So you know, you got to understand 460 00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 2: that this is a revolution. This is a local rever 461 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:06,600 Speaker 2: commune revolution backed by Sharia elements in the largest financial 462 00:35:06,640 --> 00:35:09,720 Speaker 2: center of the country and the most heavily Jewish city 463 00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: in America, one of the biggest Jewish population centers in 464 00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 2: the world. So I can't see any positive side of 465 00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 2: this other than that it's going to probably help to 466 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,799 Speaker 2: salvage the Florida real estate market. You know, I think 467 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 2: we're going to see a massive influx of people to 468 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 2: Florida after this. 469 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 1: But Trevor, we had a technical challenge there. We've changed computers. 470 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: Pick up with that thought, if you would on how 471 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: the radical militant, anti police, anti Israel, ANTIACE agenda may 472 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: not only pretend violence in New York City under this 473 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: guy's mariity if you should get the job, but also 474 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: what it says about his electoral base. 475 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I think New York will become a magnet 476 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,520 Speaker 2: for radicals, terrior Look, it already is, but it'll be 477 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 2: it'll double down. It'll become like an enclave, a radical 478 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,600 Speaker 2: enclave with an America, which will spread to other places. 479 00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:19,720 Speaker 2: But the question you raise is very important. How could 480 00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,880 Speaker 2: young people be silly enough to vote for someone like this, Well, 481 00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 2: if you've been indoctrinated in your schools for the last 482 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:33,040 Speaker 2: two generations, if you are indoctrinated through TikTok and social 483 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 2: media with left wing messages twenty four to seven, if 484 00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 2: it's cool to be a revolutionary, if your daughter reads 485 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 2: teen Vogue, which might as well be a communist party, 486 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: publication which is full of left wing ideology. If this 487 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,799 Speaker 2: is coming at you all the time, Mandami is going 488 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: to seem like a very romantic figure, like a Jay Guavara. 489 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 2: You're going to be part of a new civil rights movement. 490 00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 2: You're going to be part of a progressive change, and 491 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 2: you're going to end structural racism, and you're going to 492 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 2: change America for the better. You're going to have all 493 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 2: these mushy ideas in your head because that's what you 494 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 2: learned at school. And this is the price we have 495 00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 2: paid for allowing Jimmy Carter to implement a Department of 496 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 2: Education across the country, and the price we've paid for 497 00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,839 Speaker 2: take paying very little attention to the education of our 498 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:36,399 Speaker 2: children for the last thirty years. Everybody assumes you send 499 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 2: a kids to public school and they learned about American 500 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,440 Speaker 2: history and what a great country they live in. No 501 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,840 Speaker 2: far from it. Even if you send your kids to 502 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:48,759 Speaker 2: Christian schools and religious schools, they're still getting indoctrinated with 503 00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 2: this garbage. So you know, President Trump's getting rid of 504 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 2: the Department of Education, which is good, but there's got 505 00:37:56,200 --> 00:38:00,800 Speaker 2: to be a much more through thorough effort to reform 506 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: education in this country than that. It has to go 507 00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:08,279 Speaker 2: way beyond that, because we are losing our kids. Our 508 00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:11,200 Speaker 2: kids do not share our values. We know this in 509 00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: our own families, and this is only going to get worse. 510 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 2: And the more extreme people like Mandami get, the more 511 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:22,560 Speaker 2: followers that either the more disaffected young kids are going 512 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 2: to fall in behind them. This is setting a stage 513 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 2: for an intergenerational civil war in the United States. 514 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: Which of course serves the purpose of the Marxists and 515 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: the foreign Communists as well, for that matter, of the 516 00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: Chinese Communist Party. The more we can be fractured as 517 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: a nation, the more we can be riven by these 518 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:53,759 Speaker 1: well cultural Marxist agendas, the easier we are that for 519 00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 1: them to take us down, either simply internally or perhaps 520 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:01,280 Speaker 1: a combination of jurnal and external pressure. 521 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,200 Speaker 2: So, say we got in a war with Ironald China, 522 00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: would you want Mandarmbi's supporters drafted into the US army. 523 00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 3: Yeah? 524 00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 2: Do you think that might be a problem. 525 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:15,400 Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's such an interesting point, Trevor. And 526 00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that I had a conversation the 527 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:23,040 Speaker 1: other day with individual who wanted to remain anonymous, but 528 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: was worried about even before that takes place the lengths 529 00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:35,239 Speaker 1: that the military has gone I think under principally the 530 00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,719 Speaker 1: Biden administration, but it sounded as though it might be 531 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,359 Speaker 1: continuing under Trump to allow illegal aliens who have come 532 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: here to be recruited into the military. 533 00:39:48,040 --> 00:39:50,279 Speaker 3: You know that the. 534 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:55,359 Speaker 1: Program affords them expedited access to citizenship if they do so. 535 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: But you know, to your question, do you really want 536 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: illegal aliens, possibly Chinese nationals among them, to be you 537 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,919 Speaker 1: know in our armed forces? That will not, I think 538 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 1: serve us. Well, God forbid it. 539 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 2: We'll find ourselves, especially. 540 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 1: Trevor. I have to take a final break. 541 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,000 Speaker 3: We'll be right back with more with Trevor. 542 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,880 Speaker 1: Loudon on the enemy with it and how it is 543 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:46,600 Speaker 1: manifesting itself in so many ways. Stay tuned, We're back 544 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 1: for this final installment of this incredibly informative and frankly 545 00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:57,160 Speaker 1: our alarming conversation with our friend Trevor Louden, an expert 546 00:40:57,280 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: on the phenomenon of the penetration of our country, the 547 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:08,520 Speaker 1: subversion of our country, and the extent to which it 548 00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: will not only benefit the enemies that we have around 549 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,280 Speaker 1: the world, but it's being engineered by them. And Trevor, 550 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,279 Speaker 1: I had to interrupt you because we had to take 551 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: a break. Your point that you wanted to make clear pick. 552 00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 2: Up while I was just saying that, one of the 553 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 2: main advocates for the admission of illegal aliens into the 554 00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:35,759 Speaker 2: US military was Mark Vacy, the Dallas area congressman who 555 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 2: served on the Armed Services Committee. He was always pushing 556 00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:43,800 Speaker 2: this while he is also very close friends to Gene Lance, 557 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 2: the leader of the North Texas Communist Party. So you 558 00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:51,040 Speaker 2: can see these connections. You know, this is anything to 559 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:56,279 Speaker 2: weaken America's military, anything to make America's military less reliable, 560 00:41:57,080 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 2: to let to be less trustworthy in time of war. Well, 561 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 2: why would we want people from Guatemala, in Cameroon and 562 00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: Iran whatever serving in key military posts. What's that going 563 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,720 Speaker 2: to do to our military effectiveness and national security? 564 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:18,879 Speaker 1: Coer I don't know if you looked at this, but 565 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: this this would be a great research project for you. 566 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: I understand that there is at least one I believe 567 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:30,360 Speaker 1: it's a Navy Marine Corps recruiting installation, I think in 568 00:42:30,440 --> 00:42:33,560 Speaker 1: southern California, if memory serves, that. 569 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,399 Speaker 3: Is really. 570 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: All about recruiting Chinese. The recruiters are Chinese, presumably Chinese Americans, 571 00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:51,840 Speaker 1: in uniform. The signage inside the facility is all Chinese. 572 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,920 Speaker 1: The people that they're processing, apparently rather aggressively, are Chinese. 573 00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: And one of the things that is, as you know, 574 00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: particularly concerning to all of us on the national security 575 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:10,920 Speaker 1: side of the public policy debate is how many of 576 00:43:10,960 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: these folks have we let in to the country illegally, 577 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 1: who are actually Chinese People's Liberation Army personnel, And if 578 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,799 Speaker 1: God forbid, any of those are being recruited and put 579 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:28,760 Speaker 1: in the military, we've got again even greater problem. Listen, tavor, 580 00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: I did want to just ask you about to conclude 581 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 1: this conversation with something that I always want you to 582 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:43,640 Speaker 1: explore with our audience, because I think it's of surpassing importance. You, 583 00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: as I've mentioned, have an understanding of the various threats 584 00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,799 Speaker 1: we're facing from these enemies within. That's basically on paralleled. 585 00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,560 Speaker 1: I think in America today, I certainly don't know of 586 00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 1: anybody in government who holds a candle to you in 587 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,040 Speaker 1: terms of their grasp of this problem. Alas in fact, 588 00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:05,560 Speaker 1: you've you've done so much to document the problems with 589 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: people in government that it's it's all the more unlikely 590 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: that they'll be heating. I'm afraid some of the important 591 00:44:14,320 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 1: research you've done, but you've also given a lot of 592 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:23,279 Speaker 1: thought to what we do about such enemies. Whether they're 593 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: masters of the universe on Wall Street who have been 594 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 1: sluicing our pension funds and other investments into the coffers 595 00:44:31,160 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: of the Chinese Communist Party, or whether they're business leaders 596 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 1: or academics or you know, the media folks or government officials. 597 00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: Talk a little bit about the technique that you believe 598 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: might well be brought to bear to help us address 599 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:50,680 Speaker 1: this yawning problem. 600 00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,200 Speaker 2: Well, I think we agree, Frank, that one of the 601 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,799 Speaker 2: huge main problems we have is massive foreign and filtration 602 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 2: by the Iranians, the Chinese and other enemy eate and 603 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: both their nationals that live here and are workings for 604 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: their foreign masters and the people here they have co opted, 605 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,240 Speaker 2: either willingly or unwillingly, in Wall Street, in big tech 606 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 2: and business, in the military, and the media and Hollywood, 607 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:22,799 Speaker 2: all sorts of areas. We cannot survive this, But you 608 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,360 Speaker 2: cannot go out and mount court cases against one hundred 609 00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:30,319 Speaker 2: thousand or one hundred and fifty thousand individuals in the 610 00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,000 Speaker 2: time that we need to do this. We need to 611 00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 2: do this now. So what are proposed is to use 612 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:41,280 Speaker 2: organized crime techniques, and that is to like the untouchables 613 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:45,120 Speaker 2: did with elliot Ness, like Dewey did to take down 614 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:49,200 Speaker 2: murder inc. President Trump has to assemble a new unit 615 00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:54,080 Speaker 2: of very very vetted individuals whose job is to go 616 00:45:54,280 --> 00:46:00,000 Speaker 2: after traitors and spies in the country, Chinese, Russian, whatever 617 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 2: they are, and that has to be publicly known that 618 00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 2: we're going to go after these people and we're going 619 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:09,719 Speaker 2: to prosecute you vigorously. But at the same time, the 620 00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 2: President announces an amnesty. Every foreign trade to every domestic 621 00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:21,360 Speaker 2: trader has three months to either leave the country permanently 622 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:25,920 Speaker 2: and never return, or to turn themselves in to the 623 00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 2: new agency and spill their guts, cough up everything they know, 624 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,640 Speaker 2: who paid them, who they paid, what they stole, who 625 00:46:34,680 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 2: they co opted, how they were blackmailed, who they blackmailed, 626 00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: A full and frank confession that would cause a meltdown 627 00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:48,360 Speaker 2: of every foreign network in the country, because the Iranian 628 00:46:48,400 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 2: business businessman who was bribing the senator wouldn't know if 629 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,760 Speaker 2: the senator had taken a deal and was wearing a wire, 630 00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 2: and the senator wouldn't know if the Iranian businessmen had 631 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,120 Speaker 2: taken a deal and was wearing the wire. You would 632 00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 2: see probably hundreds of thousands of Chinese nationals leave the country, 633 00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 2: Mexican cartel, Russian mobsters, you name it, and you would 634 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:19,200 Speaker 2: have people coming forward with evidence to the point that 635 00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:22,440 Speaker 2: we were be able to build cases, very strong cases 636 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,880 Speaker 2: against the few that didn't take the deal. So you 637 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,040 Speaker 2: would be basically letting a lot of people off the whole, 638 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:33,640 Speaker 2: giving them amnesty. Their punishment would be between them and God. 639 00:47:34,200 --> 00:47:37,279 Speaker 2: But the evidence they would provide would be enough to 640 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,880 Speaker 2: arrest and prosecute, prosecute the really, really worst actors and 641 00:47:42,920 --> 00:47:45,279 Speaker 2: the Americans. So this would clean out the problem without 642 00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:48,360 Speaker 2: firing a shot. You'd only have probably a few hundred 643 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:51,240 Speaker 2: court cases you'd have to deal with, and the American 644 00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 2: public would finally understand the depth of the penetration and 645 00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: would support the security measures going forward to ensure this 646 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 2: doesn't happen again. This is how you take down organized crime. 647 00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:07,439 Speaker 2: You find low level informants, you get them to rat 648 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,279 Speaker 2: on their friends, and you destroy I. 649 00:48:10,360 --> 00:48:11,239 Speaker 3: Have to leave it at that. 650 00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: This is brilliant as far as I'm concerned, and so 651 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: urgently needed. I hope to God that we will get 652 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,840 Speaker 1: President Trump's attention on this corrective as well as the 653 00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,279 Speaker 1: underlying problem that it's needed to address. God bless you, 654 00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,319 Speaker 1: my friend. Keep up the great work that you do. 655 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,080 Speaker 1: Trevor Loud and New zeal is that to how people 656 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:30,479 Speaker 1: get ahold? 657 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 2: Just traveloud dot com. 658 00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: Trivelouden dot com. Excellent. 659 00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:36,879 Speaker 3: Talk to you against, my friend, Talk to the rest 660 00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,080 Speaker 3: of you next time. Tell them go forth and multiply.