WEBVTT - ‘Publish and Be Damned!’; and, Harriette Wilson Did

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shondaland Audio in partnership

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<v Speaker 1>with iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>I admire and look up to heroes, but indolent men

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<v Speaker 2>make the best lovers, wrote Harriet Wilson in her memoirs.

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<v Speaker 2>In eighteen twenty five, Harriet, a British courtesan, wrote and

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<v Speaker 2>published a series of stories in a British broadsheet paper

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<v Speaker 2>titled The Memoirs of Harriet Wilson. She's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>most famous courtesans of the Regency era, not necessarily because

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<v Speaker 2>of her affairs, but because she named names. She exposed

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<v Speaker 2>in her memoirs, the names of royal, aristocratic and political men,

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<v Speaker 2>whom she then blackmailed to keep their names out of

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<v Speaker 2>those memoirs. Arthur Wellesley, first Duke of Wellington, was famously

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<v Speaker 2>one of those influential names. Let's talk about who Arthur was,

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<v Speaker 2>why Harriet would want to blackmail him, and why among

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<v Speaker 2>all her victims, we chose him to have on the

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<v Speaker 2>show Welcome to Criminalia. I'm Maria Tremarqui.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm Holly Frye. Arthur Wellesley was a hero. Literally,

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<v Speaker 1>he had wanted to follow his dreams of becoming a musician,

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<v Speaker 1>but his mother would not hear of it, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>he joined a Highland regiment. He then fought at Flanders,

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<v Speaker 1>directed the British campaign in India, fought in campaigns in

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<v Speaker 1>both Portugal and France, and commanded the British Army in

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<v Speaker 1>the Peninsular War. He went on to become a military

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<v Speaker 1>general who, among many impressive acts, was a national hero

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<v Speaker 1>for his defeat of Napoleon Bonaparte at Waterloo. His military

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<v Speaker 1>battle plans are still studied today. He was that good.

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<v Speaker 1>He famously is quoted saying the only thing I am

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<v Speaker 1>afraid of is fear. We'll see about that. Arthur has

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<v Speaker 1>also appeared on Criminalia a few times in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>so if you've been with us for a while, you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember we talked about the time his portrait, which

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<v Speaker 1>is Goya's painting The Duke, became a target of theft

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<v Speaker 1>from the National Gallery in London, and we also told

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<v Speaker 1>the story of when he was famously stalked by Lady

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<v Speaker 1>Georgiana Faine, English heiress and daughter of John Fain, tenth

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<v Speaker 1>Earl of Westmoreland. And we can't skip this fact either.

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<v Speaker 1>He is also the person that Wellington boots are named

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<v Speaker 1>for after he asked his shoemaker, a George Hoby of

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<v Speaker 1>Saint James's Street in London, to make him a boot

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<v Speaker 1>that would be easier to wear with the newly fashionable

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<v Speaker 1>tighter fitting trousers. The Wellington Arch in London's Hyde Park. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that is named after him.

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<v Speaker 2>Too, but it takes two to tango, so let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Harriet. Harriet Wilson was born Harriet de Bouchet on

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<v Speaker 2>February twenty second, seventeen eighty six in London. She was

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<v Speaker 2>one of fifteen children born to Swiss clockmaker John and

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<v Speaker 2>his English wife Amelia. John changed the family's surname to

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson in eighteen oh one. Harriet did not grow up

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<v Speaker 2>dreaming of becoming a courtisan. She first tried on a

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<v Speaker 2>career as a governess, then a boarding school music teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>She found both, she would later write, insufferable and boring.

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<v Speaker 2>She wanted, as she wrote in her memoirs, to live

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<v Speaker 2>quote as free as air, from any restraint but that

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<v Speaker 2>of my conscience, and explained that her sister Amy led her,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as her other sisters, Fanny and Sophie, into

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<v Speaker 2>the world of the courtisan society. Labeled her a demirep,

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<v Speaker 2>which was a woman of dubious reputation, but the courtesan

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<v Speaker 2>was a woman in control of her life and her finances,

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<v Speaker 2>which most married women at the time were not. So

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<v Speaker 2>Esa heads up on this one as we get into

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<v Speaker 2>her story. Her life as a courtieson began when she

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<v Speaker 2>was a teenage girl.

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<v Speaker 1>So a courtisan, just so we all know, was basically

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<v Speaker 1>an upper class woman who had intimate relationships with wealthy

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<v Speaker 1>or important people in exchange for money. She also provided

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<v Speaker 1>companionship and good conversation. Sometimes this was a long term

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<v Speaker 1>financial arrangement, but not always. It could be weeks or

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<v Speaker 1>it could be years, and courtisans had a certain cachet.

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<v Speaker 1>They were witty and intelligent. With Jois de Vive, Harriet

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<v Speaker 1>was an educated woman. She read French, and she was

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<v Speaker 1>interested in Roman history, and she took interest in current politics.

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<v Speaker 1>She was described as quote far from beautiful, but a smart,

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<v Speaker 1>saucy girl with good eyes and dark hair and the

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<v Speaker 1>manners of a wild schoolboy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's time for us to take a break forward from

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<v Speaker 2>our sponsors. But when we're back, we'll talk about Harriet

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<v Speaker 2>Wilson's career as a courtesan. And the influential people who

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<v Speaker 2>got caught in her web of blackmail.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia. Let's talk about some of the

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<v Speaker 1>affairs of Harriet Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Harriet began her memoirs talking about her first client, William,

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<v Speaker 2>Earl of Craven. William we found was a cousin of

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<v Speaker 2>the author Jane Austen, which is just a little side

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<v Speaker 2>note for any j Knights or austin Knites out there.

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<v Speaker 2>Of him, she said, quote, I shall not say how

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<v Speaker 2>and why I became, at the age of fifteen the

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<v Speaker 2>mistress of the Earl of Craven, whether it was love,

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<v Speaker 2>or the depravity of my own heart, or the winning

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<v Speaker 2>arts of the noble lord which induced me to leave

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<v Speaker 2>my paternal roof and place myself under his protection. Her

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<v Speaker 2>memoirs were hyped as a tell all, and she did

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<v Speaker 2>tell some. She described not only the boredom she felt

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<v Speaker 2>as the years passed, but also personal details, such as quote,

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<v Speaker 2>all men do not wear those ugly cotton nightcaps. Else

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<v Speaker 2>all women's illusions had been destroyed in the first night

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<v Speaker 2>of marriage. Later in her story, she writes of a

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<v Speaker 2>royal quote, I wonder, thought, I what sort of a nightcap?

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<v Speaker 2>The Prince of Wales wears she had a great deal

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<v Speaker 2>to say, and just as many of us can't get

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<v Speaker 2>enough celebrity gossip today, people then also wanted to hear

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Years later, the Earl of Craven ended the affair, accusing

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<v Speaker 1>her of having a dalliance with Frederick Lamb, third Viscount Melbourne.

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<v Speaker 1>She denied it to William, but she and Lamb did

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<v Speaker 1>have an affair. After her relationship with Lamb ended, she

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<v Speaker 1>began an affair with Colin Campbell, third Duke of Argyle,

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<v Speaker 1>that ended when he and her sister Amy met and

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<v Speaker 1>they became lovers. Arthur Wellesley, Duke of Wellington, was an

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<v Speaker 1>on again, off again entanglement. The memoir really reads like

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<v Speaker 1>a who's who of influential names. Harriet claimed the Marquess

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<v Speaker 1>of Worcester wanted to marry her, although his father, the

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<v Speaker 1>Duke of Beaufort, put an end to that. Some versions

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<v Speaker 1>of that affair suggest she actually blackmailed the Duke into

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<v Speaker 1>keeping his son's proposal quiet. It was one thing to

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<v Speaker 1>carry on with a cortison, but marriage that was a

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<v Speaker 1>no no. She kept a company of Henry Brahm, first

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<v Speaker 1>Baron Brahm and Vox, as well as John Wilson Croker,

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<v Speaker 1>politician and essayist. She also had flirtations with the Prince Regent,

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<v Speaker 1>who reigned first as Regent due to his father's illness

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<v Speaker 1>from eighteen eleven to eighteen twenty and then as King

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<v Speaker 1>George the Fourth from eighteen twenty to eighteen forty. Other

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<v Speaker 1>influential names included Henry John Temple, Lord Palmerston, Lord Frederick Bentick,

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<v Speaker 1>Augustus Fitzgerald, third Duke Leinster, Francis Seymour Conway, Third Marquess

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<v Speaker 1>of Hertford, the Honorable Frederick poodle Bing, and Lord John Ponsonby,

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<v Speaker 1>whom she claimed was her one true love. Of him

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<v Speaker 1>she recalled quote, even the knocker of his door escaped,

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<v Speaker 1>not my veneration.

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<v Speaker 2>Many of the men who had in the past promised

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<v Speaker 2>her a pension as part of their deal seemed to

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<v Speaker 2>have forgotten about her after they ended the affair, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's where the idea of the tell all sparked. Finding

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<v Speaker 2>herself about to turn forty years old with dwindling finances,

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<v Speaker 2>Harriet decided to write her memoirs, which actually was a

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<v Speaker 2>kiss and Tell that she used to threaten to expose

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<v Speaker 2>her lovers unless they paid to keep their names out

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<v Speaker 2>of her work. It was split into multiple volumes, each

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<v Speaker 2>featuring a different client or clients. In cahoots with publisher

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<v Speaker 2>John Joseph Stockdale, a draft of the manuscript for the

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<v Speaker 2>Memoirs of Harriet Wilson was intentionally circulated to several of

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<v Speaker 2>the important men mentioned in the book, along with a

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<v Speaker 2>note that for a sizeable payment, passages could be omitted

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<v Speaker 2>or revised, and quotes from love letters could be removed

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<v Speaker 2>Before it went public. Some accounts report that upwards of

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<v Speaker 2>two hundred letters were sent to her former clients demanding

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<v Speaker 2>an annual annuity of twenty pounds or one lump sum

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<v Speaker 2>of two hundred pounds to ensure their annonymity. Though nefarious,

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<v Speaker 2>it was a pretty good plan. If she didn't get

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<v Speaker 2>the money she was blackmailing for, she would still make

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<v Speaker 2>money on the book sales anyway.

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<v Speaker 1>Stockdale, her publisher, was a sketchy guy. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>English publisher and editor with a reputation as a pornographer

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<v Speaker 1>and as a publisher of questionable materials. The fact that

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<v Speaker 1>he was involved in blackmail is pretty unsurprising. He did, however,

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<v Speaker 1>publish writing that was less sensationalistic, sometimes, such as Percy

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<v Speaker 1>Bishelley's Gothic horror novel titled Saint Irvine or The Rosicrucian

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<v Speaker 1>of Romance. Under the pseudonym of Thomas Little. He also

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<v Speaker 1>published an edition of John Robertson's then radical Treatise on

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<v Speaker 1>the Pathology of the Reproductive System. That was a work

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<v Speaker 1>titled on Diseases of the Generative System.

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<v Speaker 2>So that said, we're going to take a break for

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<v Speaker 2>word from our sponsors. When we're all back together, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how successful or unsuccessful Harriet's blacklackmail campaign fared.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to Criminalia and now the blackmail. Let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Arthur Wellesley's reaction to Harriet's blackmail attempt.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to the memoir. In December of eighteen twenty four,

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<v Speaker 2>Arthur Wellesley received correspondence from John Joseph Stockdale on behalf

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<v Speaker 2>of Harriet, stating, quote, my Lord Duke, in Harriet Wilson's

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<v Speaker 2>memoirs which I am about to publish, are various anecdotes

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<v Speaker 2>of your grace which it would be most desirable to withhold.

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<v Speaker 2>At least such is my opinion. I have stopped the

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<v Speaker 2>press for the moment, but as the publication will take

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<v Speaker 2>place next week, little delay can necessarily take place. This

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<v Speaker 2>outraged Arthur, leading him to roar the now famous quote,

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<v Speaker 2>publish and be damned. He was the only person mixed

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<v Speaker 2>up in Harriet's blackmail circle who stood up for himself

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<v Speaker 2>so solidly that we still know about it two hundred

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<v Speaker 2>years later.

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<v Speaker 1>So obviously, Arthur Wellesley was not the kind of man

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<v Speaker 1>who was easily intimidated, not on the battlefield and not

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<v Speaker 1>off of it. He was more than willing to call

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<v Speaker 1>out any person who gave him any offense or grievance.

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<v Speaker 1>He was literally a guy who would face his enemies

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<v Speaker 1>with pistols at dawn. He did, and he lived to

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<v Speaker 1>tell about it. After his military achievements, he entered politics,

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<v Speaker 1>eventually rising to the office of Prime Minister in eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>twenty eight. He was married, yet remained an undeniable womanizer.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty years had passed since he and Harriet had their affair.

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<v Speaker 2>We learn of him from her that he was quote

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<v Speaker 2>a faithful lover whose love survived six winters. She described

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<v Speaker 2>him as quote my own Wellington, who sided over me,

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<v Speaker 2>talked of my wonderful beauty, ran after me. She called

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<v Speaker 2>him quote my constant visitor and a modern bluebeard. She

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<v Speaker 2>also described him as quote most unentertaining and claimed that

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<v Speaker 2>quote in the evenings, when he wore his broad red ribbon,

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<v Speaker 2>he looked very much like a rat catcher. She compared

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<v Speaker 2>his pillow talk to quote sitting up with a corpse.

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<v Speaker 2>It wasn't all racy material.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, Arthur wasn't the only one that Harriet tried

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<v Speaker 1>to blackmail, and others were more forthcoming. We mentioned earlier

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<v Speaker 1>that she included the Prince Regent in her tell all,

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<v Speaker 1>but there wasn't much to tell. Really. It was more

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<v Speaker 1>about associating with his name. Harriet wrote about the letters

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<v Speaker 1>that they had exchanged and how he didn't impress her.

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<v Speaker 1>In his correspondence, she wrote to him, quote, I am

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<v Speaker 1>told that I am very beautiful, So perhaps you would

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<v Speaker 1>like to see me if you believe you could make

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<v Speaker 1>me in love with you write to me. In reply,

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<v Speaker 1>George suggested they meet in London, but as she was

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<v Speaker 1>in Brighton, she replied, quote, Sir, to travel fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>miles this bad weather merely to see a man, would

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<v Speaker 1>you must admit be madness in a girl like myself?

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<v Speaker 1>Surrounded by humble admirers. If you can do anything better

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<v Speaker 1>in the way of pleasing a lady than ordinary men,

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<v Speaker 1>write directly, if not adieu monsieur le Prince. She admitted,

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<v Speaker 1>though that they never actually had an affair, so threatening

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<v Speaker 1>to share his correspondence she hoped was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>enough to get him to pay her for her silence.

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<v Speaker 2>Her blackmail scheme pay to be deleted from her Kiss

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<v Speaker 2>and Tel has since frustrated biographers of Wilson, as she

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<v Speaker 2>clearly held her end of the deal and altered her

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<v Speaker 2>writing for those who gave her money. Most of her

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<v Speaker 2>former lovers, including the Prince Regent, who we know wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>actually in that category, technically paid to keep their names

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<v Speaker 2>out of this whole business.

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<v Speaker 1>Stockdale, despite Arthur's outcry, did publish, And as for the Duke,

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<v Speaker 1>his social and public reputation maybe took a small hit,

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<v Speaker 1>but nothing really happened. He didn't have to resign, he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have to apologize. He kept his status as the

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<v Speaker 1>nation's hero and his popularity. Ebbden waned with his political career,

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<v Speaker 1>not from anything Harriet had to say about him.

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<v Speaker 2>The book became a bestseller, even though much of it

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<v Speaker 2>was known to be completely fictional, and, as we've been

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<v Speaker 2>talking about, also heavily redacted. The demand was so great

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<v Speaker 2>that a barrier had to be erected in front of

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<v Speaker 2>Stockdale's shop the day it was made available. But despite

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<v Speaker 2>its subject matter, Harriet's allegedly scandalous book was actually, by

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<v Speaker 2>many accounts, pretty dull. The scandal of the book was

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<v Speaker 2>the names that appeared in it, not anything especially graphic

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<v Speaker 2>or salacious.

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<v Speaker 1>Minus the two hundred pound blackmail payments, It's believed that

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<v Speaker 1>Harriet's memoirs made her about ten thousand pounds. In eighteen thirty,

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<v Speaker 1>she tried another round of blackmail letters to her former clients,

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<v Speaker 1>threatening another publication. Mostly this just caused anger, and most

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<v Speaker 1>of the men dismissed her. In the end, with a

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable nest egg from her memoir sales and her successful blackmails,

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<v Speaker 1>Harriet retired from her work.

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<v Speaker 2>So what are we drinking with Harriet or Arthur?

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<v Speaker 1>This is a drink that I think Harriet would have enjoyed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm calling it the chatty Cortison. There are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of cocktails called a courtisan, so I couldn't do that.

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<v Speaker 2>That's appropriate for her.

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<v Speaker 1>She was chatting. She wanted to talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>her life, some of it fake and some of it

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<v Speaker 1>real and.

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<v Speaker 2>Redacted, heavily redacted life.

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<v Speaker 1>So this one is a heavy hitter. I just warn

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<v Speaker 1>you up front there is a lot of alcohol in it.

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<v Speaker 1>So we'll start with the non alcoholic components, a half

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of lemon juice and an ounce of white grape juice.

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<v Speaker 1>To that, you are going to add an ounce of gin,

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<v Speaker 1>a half ounce of Creme de Vilette, and a half

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<v Speaker 1>ounce of Saint Germain, and you are going to shake

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<v Speaker 1>these together with ice till it's very cold, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to pour them into a chilled coop, and then

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<v Speaker 1>you are going to top it with chilled prosecco for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bubble, A little bubble, a little bubble. This

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<v Speaker 1>is one of those drinks that is almost stupidly delicious.

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<v Speaker 1>It's super easy to sip, even though has a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of alcohol in it. Obviously, drink responsibly. But I just

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<v Speaker 1>picture her having these made as she sits on her couch,

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<v Speaker 1>chuckling to herself about all of the men she feels.

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<v Speaker 1>She holds in her hand with her information, the floral

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<v Speaker 1>notes from the creme to violette and the elderflower liquor

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<v Speaker 1>are not super strong. It's like they all kind of

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<v Speaker 1>balance and co under each other, and it's like having

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<v Speaker 1>a almost like a champagne cocktail, but it's a little

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<v Speaker 1>more than your French seventy five because we have other

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<v Speaker 1>flavors in the mix.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually think this is The ingredients to this are

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<v Speaker 2>fantastically Harriet.

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<v Speaker 1>They just felt very right to yeah for her. If

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make the mocktail version of this, that

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<v Speaker 1>is actually pretty easy. We're going to do the subout.

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<v Speaker 1>We've gotten pretty used to of using an ounce of

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<v Speaker 1>flat tonic water in lieu of gin. Instead of your

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<v Speaker 1>creme to violette, you're gonna use violet syrup, and instead

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<v Speaker 1>of your elderflower liqueur, you'll use an elderflower syrup. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>one thing I would do here is I would up

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<v Speaker 1>the lemon juice just a little bit, because at that

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<v Speaker 1>point you're adding a lot more syrup to get the flavors.

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<v Speaker 1>So I would go to like three quarters of an ounce,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe even more. If you want a little more tart,

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<v Speaker 1>then you'll keep your ounce of white grape juice, and

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<v Speaker 1>you will use like a low sugar ginger ale instead

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<v Speaker 1>of prosecco.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like that. The mocktail is equally days day.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is very yummy. It's one of those mocktails

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<v Speaker 1>that I found myself going. If I've made everything but

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<v Speaker 1>the bubble part and I just kept us in a picture,

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<v Speaker 1>I can drink off of this all day while I'm working,

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<v Speaker 1>and just top it off with the ginger ale and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be in great chap. It's a super yummy one.

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<v Speaker 1>I really liked this. The cocktail version is not very sweet.

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<v Speaker 1>Even though it has sweet elements in it. Nothing is

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<v Speaker 1>really to my palette, the domineering element of it, which

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<v Speaker 1>is always nice right when it's like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 1>just its own, its own thing. That is the chatty Cortison.

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<v Speaker 1>We have sure enjoyed chatting about her with you, and

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<v Speaker 1>we hope that you have enjoyed it as well, and

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<v Speaker 1>that you will join us again next week for another

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