1 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:07,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,600 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,440 --> 00:00:13,360 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashaan McDonald. I will know he's given me 4 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: advice to many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 1: it's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: we go, absolutely absolutely welcome to Money Making Conversations masterclass. 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: As he stayed its stephen A. Smith, I am Rashaan McDonald, 11 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: Welcome to my show. I theme today is there is 12 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: no perfect time to start following your dreams because I 13 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: recognize that we all have different definitions of success. For you, 14 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:48,880 Speaker 1: it may be the size of your paycheck. Mine really 15 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,279 Speaker 1: is inspiring you to accomplish your goals and live your 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: very best life. Actually, it's time to start reading other 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,680 Speaker 1: people's success stories and really start living your own. People 18 00:00:57,720 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: always talking about their purpose or gift. If you have 19 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: a gift, leave with your gift and don't let your friends, family, 20 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: or co workers stop you from planning on living your dreams. 21 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 1: My guests on the show today, this one person about 22 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: to bring up next is a person who has not 23 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: allowed those people to get in the way of her dreams. 24 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: My guest is Sherry Shepherd. She's the new Queen of 25 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: daytime Talk Sherry and nac Image Award winning show one 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,480 Speaker 1: this year Outstanding talk show series where she carries her 27 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: comedic takes on or shares her comedic takes on various 28 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: topics like laugh Lounge, Best Life series She's a Boss. 29 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: Fox Television has renewed the number one new nationalist syndicated 30 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:37,120 Speaker 1: daytime talker for two years through twenty twenty four. Twenty 31 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 1: twenty five, we're going to be discussing her career. She 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: co hosted the daytime talk show as you remember the 33 00:01:42,400 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: view being on Dancing with Stars This Nation and I 34 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 1: cast her way back when on the Damie Fox Jamie 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 1: Fox Show as an actress when I was the co 36 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: executive producer. Now she's whole co hosting something else. If 37 00:01:53,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 1: you don't know about this, an NACP Image Award winning 38 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: podcast called Two Funny Mamas with comedian and actress Kim Whitley. 39 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: They will have an upcoming comedy tour that we'll be 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: talking about called two Funny Mamls. Please Walking the Money, 41 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 1: Main Conversations Masterclass the Daytime. The award winned the number 42 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:14,200 Speaker 1: one Queen of Talk show comedian actress author Sherry Shepard. 43 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 1: How are you doing, Cherry? Rest on him? Say so much? 44 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: Les Chery gonna say, I'm done? You say everything, Rashane, 45 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: I'm done. I'm done. I'm done. That's what I was cooking. 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: I don't have to do anything. Sharry, you are amazing. 47 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: Thank you for taking the time to call my show. 48 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,239 Speaker 1: You know, we broadcast live every Tuesday on w c 49 00:02:38,400 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: OKA and Atlanta, Georgia and the syndicates nationally on HBCU 50 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: stations in nationwide as well as my podcast. But more importantly, 51 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 1: when I get a talent like you who understands that 52 00:02:48,960 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: the journey, you know, journey I mentioned when we first met. 53 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: We're back when on the Jamie Foxx Show. But it's 54 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,280 Speaker 1: been a journey. Talk about let's start now presently the 55 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: excitement that's happening the podcast to talk show. How did 56 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 1: the talk show come about? Because you were guesting series 57 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: on it? And then also that the talk show was given, 58 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 1: It was you giving the opportunity to do it. Can 59 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: you walk it through that process emotionally and physically? Oh yeah, 60 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to do have a talk show of 61 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: my own. This started back eighteen years ago. I had 62 00:03:23,160 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: actually done a pilot for a talk show for ABC Disney. 63 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: I did it on the set of Regis and Kelly 64 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: and and it went, you know what, it was okay. 65 00:03:36,040 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 1: Like they came and saw me, the Disney people doing 66 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: stand up at the Last Factory Rashaun, and they liked me, 67 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 1: and they did this pilot and they tried to do 68 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: a sidekick and it didn't work. Um, you know, we 69 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 1: did chemistry testing with all of the major stars that 70 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 1: you hear about now and it didn't work. So they 71 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: did it for me by myself, and it was okay. 72 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:00,360 Speaker 1: And the reason why it was okay, hey, it was 73 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: because they kept coming to me the executive thing, we 74 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: want to see that thing that you do on stage. 75 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 1: And I didn't know what that thing was that they 76 00:04:08,560 --> 00:04:11,200 Speaker 1: were talking about. All I knew was that I was 77 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: grateful to God for the opportunity. I just wanted to 78 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 1: make people laugh. My voice wasn't even as deep. It 79 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,840 Speaker 1: pretty much was like, Hey, everybody, how you doing. Welcome 80 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,919 Speaker 1: to my home show, right, And it didn't work then 81 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: eighteen years ago, because I didn't know who I was. 82 00:04:26,600 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: I didn't know really who my audience was. I didn't know, 83 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,760 Speaker 1: I excuse me, what I would do, what I wouldn't do. 84 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 1: If you told me to stand on my head, I 85 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: would have done it as long as it made people laugh. 86 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: So fast forward. It didn't go, of course it didn't, 87 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,799 Speaker 1: and so I got the opportunity. I went back to acting, 88 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 1: still having that dream, and I was doing a movie 89 00:04:48,640 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: called Who's Your Caddie? And they asked me to co 90 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 1: host on the View like a guest. Well, I got 91 00:04:54,400 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: that job, and you know that was like really my 92 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: training ground for show. And in the meantime, I've done 93 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,599 Speaker 1: a lot of guests. You know, I was sitting on 94 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: the couch and I was a guest. So I learned 95 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: how to do talk shows and what I like. From 96 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: that end, I did the View, got let go, got 97 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: fired from the View, and I went and pitched a 98 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: talk Let's let's talk about that, because you know, I 99 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: know I've had some dark moments in Hollywood, because you know, 100 00:05:22,680 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: when it happens in public like that, you know, it's 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,080 Speaker 1: not like working at IBM. It's not like working at 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: the post office and burber Key. You know, you just 103 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: walk home and go and tell your loved ones you 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: don't have a job. When it happens in public, that 105 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,840 Speaker 1: really takes a twofold. It's takes the ego hit, it 106 00:05:37,880 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 1: takes a personal hit. And then you also wondered, oh, 107 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,560 Speaker 1: you're gonna get another shot? How did you overcome that moment? Well, 108 00:05:45,600 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: I knew I couldn't be too upset when they released 109 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: me from the View because God had told me and 110 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 1: I have to go spiritual in my career because that 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 1: is the number one who has made it happen. But 112 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 1: God had said to me very clearly that last year 113 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: of the View, it's time to go, It's time to move. 114 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,480 Speaker 1: And when I told my people, my team that I 115 00:06:08,600 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: was going to quit the View, everybody went into an uproar. 116 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:13,279 Speaker 1: Oh my god, you won't be able to get a 117 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: talk show. It takes a year to develop. You're making 118 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: amazing money. And I was, you're making all of this money, 119 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: You're not gonna nobody in Hollywood knows you. No, No, no, 120 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,719 Speaker 1: you can't, you can't, and I said no, God was 121 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: very clear it's time for me to go. It was 122 00:06:27,160 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: the year that Barbara Walters was retiring. And then once 123 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:32,840 Speaker 1: I was clear on that, they kept trying to give 124 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: me more money at the View to keep me, and 125 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: I kept I continued saying no. And then Rashaun, once 126 00:06:39,200 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it happened that I thought I was going to go 127 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: through a very messy divorce, I got scared and I said, oh, 128 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: this is gonna be expensive and messy. I'm gonna stay 129 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: at the View and take the big old stalary raise 130 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: they gave me. Well, do you know when God says 131 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: it's time to go, if you don't do it, he's 132 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 1: gonna push you out of it. Because he said it 133 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: was time to go. And so they released They did 134 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,039 Speaker 1: not renew Jenny McCarthy's contract. They let go of a 135 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 1: Barbara Walker's co creator, Bill Getty. It was a number 136 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: of people that they were letting go. And I'm I'm 137 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 1: praying with everybody. I'm like, you know what, Jenny is 138 00:07:14,960 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, God gonna give you something better. You 139 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: know what, Bill Getty is gonna be okay. And then 140 00:07:19,880 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: they called me in the office. They said, sariy Schever, 141 00:07:22,440 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: we need to see you. And I was like, for what. 142 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:27,360 Speaker 1: I went in there and they said, um. They said, 143 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: we're gonna release you from your contract now. When you're 144 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 1: gonna do what? And they said, we're not gonna renew 145 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: your contract. And I said, but you get you just 146 00:07:36,840 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: were trying to give me a big salary bump. And 147 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: they said, no, things are different now and we're not 148 00:07:41,920 --> 00:07:44,600 Speaker 1: going to renew. And I remember I was sitting in 149 00:07:44,640 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: my dressing room in front of the mirror, and I said, Lord, 150 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 1: I'm about to go through this divorce. I got a 151 00:07:50,360 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: child with special needs, his therapy, his schooling. Did I 152 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: tell you I'm about to get divorced and this is 153 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: gonna cost me a lot of money? And it was 154 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: so still, the voice of God saying I told you 155 00:08:04,040 --> 00:08:06,760 Speaker 1: it was time to go. So if I got to 156 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 1: push you out, it's time to go. And I said, well, 157 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 1: then what am I supposed to do God, because I 158 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,080 Speaker 1: don't know if I told you I'm getting a divorced. 159 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Sometimes you've been talking to God but he didn't hear you. 160 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: And I just know God say, do you trust me? 161 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: And I said not really, I just I got this much, 162 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: this end of trust, and it was like I felt 163 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 1: like God saying that's all I need and that was it. 164 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 1: But resigned literally two weeks later, I don't even think 165 00:08:35,559 --> 00:08:39,480 Speaker 1: it was two weeks. Will Packer called me and he said, hey, lady, pause, 166 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: if I was two in the morning, I got a 167 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: role for you and right along too. Would you play 168 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 1: this part? I say yes. A week before that, Sinderella 169 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: on Broadway called and said, we want you to play 170 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: the evil stepmother Keiki Palmers playing Cinderella. You were the 171 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 1: first black evil stepmother on Broadway. I said, I can't sing. 172 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 1: They said, don't work. We took away all your solo 173 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,679 Speaker 1: You're just gonna sing one Kiki and other in your 174 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 1: step daughters. I said, yes, I did a month's run, 175 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: got to stay in a big penhouse. They paid me 176 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,439 Speaker 1: a lot of money to be on Broadway and and 177 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 1: went through very extensive divorce. But God always provided. So 178 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: that's how yes it was. It was a little embarrassing, 179 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: but I knew behind it right there was a reason 180 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 1: why they let me go. So sometimes I think we 181 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: look at things like, oh my God, what am I 182 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: gonna do? This is horrible? How am I going to 183 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: bounce back? But if God says it's time to go, 184 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: then there's something else that he has. So with that, 185 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: I went again around to Hollywood pitching a talk show 186 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: and everybody said no. Over sign absolutely, let everybody know. 187 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm talking to the one and only Sherry Shepherd. She's 188 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,079 Speaker 1: talking about her history, but she now is the new 189 00:09:50,160 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 1: queen of daytime talk. If you haven't seen the show, 190 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: it's called Sherry in Image Award winning show that one 191 00:09:56,000 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: this year, And now she's telling us her journey. Her 192 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: journey is one of I said early, if you have 193 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: a gift, leave with your gift. And that's what she's doing. 194 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 1: And when people told her, her friends, her family, the 195 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 1: whole co workers told her to stay on the view, 196 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: she knew it was time to do to leave. That's 197 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: why I say, if you have a plan, you have 198 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: a dream, stick with it. And that's what she telling us. 199 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: Now continue the story. Well, I was pitching the talk show. 200 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I had the vision in my head and everybody was 201 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,880 Speaker 1: not interested. Everybody said no. They kept saying no, So 202 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: I said, well, what am I supposed to do? I 203 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: kept acting, but I kept honing my skills. I would 204 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 1: go I was on talk shows and again be a 205 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,679 Speaker 1: guest right so that I get whole nose skills. And 206 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: I think after that I just started doing like game shows. 207 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,040 Speaker 1: I was hosting the New Libay Game. I was hosting 208 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,839 Speaker 1: another game show where I got to hone my skills, 209 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 1: and just like being able to improv and talk to people, 210 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:51,120 Speaker 1: I kept doing stand up. All of these things really 211 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: prepped me for being able to do a talk show 212 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: stand up. I said, on stage for forty five minutes, 213 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: you know you you handle stand up absolutely. I saw 214 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: you when you was open for Kim that Kim tour, 215 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: which was selling when I was opening for Kim and 216 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: baby Face. As when you stand on stage, you have 217 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: to talk for forty five minutes. And I always tell 218 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,960 Speaker 1: people stand up comics make the best talk show homes 219 00:11:16,400 --> 00:11:19,240 Speaker 1: because we know how to create magic where there is none. 220 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: There's no death space with the stand up comic. We're 221 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: used to improving, we're used to making things funny, and 222 00:11:25,760 --> 00:11:28,880 Speaker 1: everybody is continued to say no. I continue. My acting 223 00:11:28,920 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 1: career flourished, and after that what happened was I think 224 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: around two thousand, two thousand and nine, Wendy Williams was 225 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: in we knew that she was sick, but we didn't 226 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: know she was in rehab. And I was assuming a 227 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: movie with Acon Crockett and DC and the Wendy Williams 228 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:53,200 Speaker 1: the show called Now I have been a guest on 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: her show. There's even a clip of me on YouTube 230 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 1: of Wendy saying what do you want to do? And 231 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: I said, Wendy, I'm on my own talk show. Maybe 232 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:06,840 Speaker 1: we could, Oh, Sherry wow Wow to existence I'm running 233 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: on the couch and I go, maybe we go with 234 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: Sherry if she laughed. And so they called me to 235 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: be they when the people were filling in for Wendy, 236 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: they had panels of comics, now this in two thousand 237 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: and nine, this in two thousand nine, two thousand and nine, 238 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: and they wanted me to be a part of a panel. 239 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:26,319 Speaker 1: And I remember Michael Yo and different comics were filling 240 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 1: in at one time for Wendy, kind of like a 241 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,840 Speaker 1: viewlight panel. And so when they called me, something inside 242 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: of me said say no, And I said no, I 243 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: will I will host if you let me do it 244 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: by myself, and give me two days Monday and Tuesday, 245 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 1: because Monday is your highest rated day. Because so much 246 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: stuff happens over the weekend and people want to see 247 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 1: what you're gonna say. And they said, absolutely not. You'll 248 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: be a part of a panel. And I said no, 249 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: and I walked away, and I remember saying a fon. 250 00:12:55,960 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: I hope I did the right thing, but I know 251 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: I came from doing the view, so I know I 252 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,719 Speaker 1: could do it by myself. It's been my dream. They 253 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: didn't call me for about two or three weeks. Heki 254 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: Palmer hosted it by herself. There are only four people 255 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: that did it. Michael Rapp Report hosted it by himself, 256 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: Jerry O'Connell hosted it by himself, and me, and they 257 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 1: called me back and they said, we'll let you host 258 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: it for two days by yourself, Monday and Tuesday. And 259 00:13:23,120 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: I was so nervous, but when I tell you, the 260 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: ratings were amazing. When I hosted it. They called me 261 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: really before I had even left New York, and they said, 262 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: can you host again the entire week. By the time 263 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,319 Speaker 1: I got back to my hotel to change, they had 264 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,760 Speaker 1: canceled it. They canceled me hosting. They showed reruns. But 265 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: what they did do is debmart Mercury offered me a 266 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 1: talk show back in two thousand and nine, and it 267 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: didn't happen. When I tell you, Rashaun, I literally was that. God, 268 00:13:55,120 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 1: what is going on? Two thousand not We negotiated the salary, 269 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,760 Speaker 1: we had everything together. I knew what I would do 270 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:07,319 Speaker 1: with this talk show that my Mercury had, and it 271 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 1: just they pulled the contract literally before I was supposed 272 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: to sign it. And I'm going, what in the world, 273 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 1: ugly cries not running down my nose. My ratings were 274 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 1: amazing for those two days, no reason. My team just goes, 275 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: they just pulled the contract. They resended the offer. So 276 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 1: I go again to Hollywood pitching is my demo reel 277 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 1: was me filling in for Wendy, and I took it 278 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: around and one lady even said, a big casting director, 279 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,360 Speaker 1: there's a big talk show in the air now that 280 00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: they produced. She looked at me and she I said, 281 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,160 Speaker 1: I got the sizzle reel because it kind of shows 282 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: what I want to do from my own time. She 283 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: said I don't need to see it, and I said, 284 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:52,240 Speaker 1: but I really need you to see it. She goes, 285 00:14:52,280 --> 00:14:55,160 Speaker 1: I don't and she did her hand like dismissing dismission. 286 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't very dismissingly, she said, I don't need to 287 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: see it, and she proceeded to tell me about a 288 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: new talk show they had picked up, and if they 289 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: had picked up this other talk show with a singer 290 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:10,360 Speaker 1: from a music show and it was amazing and you know, 291 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: and she was like, maybe I could put you on 292 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,520 Speaker 1: a talk show where it's four three cooks and you 293 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: learn how to America with the And I'm like, I 294 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 1: don't that is very true. It's Sherry, oh that thought. 295 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: We're gonna be right back because I'm telling you you 296 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: want to hear about the Too Funny Mama's tour that podcast. 297 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 1: Want to hear about all her opportunities. More importantly, Sherry, 298 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: you following your dreams. You live in your dreams. That's 299 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: what you show money, money making conversations, masterclasses all the time, 300 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: letting people that in your darkest moment, would keep dreaming, 301 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:44,800 Speaker 1: in your darkest moment, would keep winning because people out 302 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: there will find you because they believe in you, and 303 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 1: God has blessed you because you willing to put in 304 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: the work. Be right back, more money making conversations, masterclass. 305 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: Don't don't go nowhere, Shary Shepherd, be right back, please, 306 00:15:56,160 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more money 307 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Masterclass. You are now tuned into the money 308 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashaan McDonald. This week, 309 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:13,240 Speaker 1: I sat down with Mediamogral Hollywood executive and philanthropists Nick Cannon. 310 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: Although the former Child Store has experienced a long career 311 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:19,760 Speaker 1: of success with no signs of slowing down, he explains 312 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 1: why he's so passionate about creating opportunities for others. It's 313 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: all about the community. For me, it's about giving other 314 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: people opportunities. It's about opening doors and sharing the knowledge, 315 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: wealth and wisdom that I've obtained with everyone else. I mean, 316 00:16:32,920 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 1: you know, obviously I'm still in school. Hopefully you know, 317 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: I'll be able to you know, hu our university. I 318 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: want to go all the way I'm getting my masters, 319 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,880 Speaker 1: want to go to my doctorate and eventually be a 320 00:16:42,920 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: professor and teach the things that I've picked up along 321 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: the way. But it's all about the community, whether it's teaching, 322 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: whether it's entertaining, whether it's investing into us. If you 323 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: want to listen to this full interview with Nick Cannon, 324 00:16:57,960 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 1: it's available on money Making Conversations dot Com. Welcome back 325 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 1: to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by Rashaan McDonald. 326 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,639 Speaker 1: Welcome back to Rushan McDonald. I'm an interview. I'm interviewing 327 00:17:09,720 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: Sherry Sheep with the new Queen of Daytime Talk. It's 328 00:17:12,600 --> 00:17:14,800 Speaker 1: not something that thought that she just thought of last week. 329 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,119 Speaker 1: It's something that's been hit on mind for a long time. 330 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: You know, always to be able to can a dream 331 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: come true? Yes, if you put the work in can 332 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,680 Speaker 1: a dream come true? Yes? If you believe in yes, 333 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: if you keep telling people this is something you want 334 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: to do. Sherry that there was a daughter's there was 335 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: people who questioned you. At what point did you and 336 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: yourself realize you know something, I'm gonna trust me. I'm 337 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: gonna trust Sherry Shep. You know at what point? I 338 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:43,879 Speaker 1: just I believed always, even when I got let go 339 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 1: from the view, I knew I had something to offer. 340 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:50,480 Speaker 1: I just knew I needed one person to believe in me, 341 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:56,640 Speaker 1: and no matter that I kept getting knows. Yes, it hurts, Yes, 342 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: I cried, But I knew that God didn't put this 343 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:04,560 Speaker 1: dream inside of me and have me doing and me 344 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 1: being so good at it that it would fall to 345 00:18:06,680 --> 00:18:09,400 Speaker 1: the wayside, and I knew I had to hold on 346 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 1: to that dream despite what it looked like, because, like 347 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: I said, when I ran around this the last time 348 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: in Hollywood and everybody was saying no Rashaan, there was 349 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: one network that I went to and the woman said 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:27,000 Speaker 1: to me she was ahead of the network and they 351 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,680 Speaker 1: didn't have any talk shows, and she said, I got 352 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: chills watching you still in for Wendy in two thousand 353 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,720 Speaker 1: and nine. She said, I loved the civil real I'm 354 00:18:36,760 --> 00:18:39,000 Speaker 1: the one that makes the decision, and I knew before 355 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: I walked out of the room that I had the 356 00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 1: deal for my own talk show. Do you know six 357 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: weeks later they called my team and they said, nope, 358 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: we're gonna go with another woman. We think she's amazing 359 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:51,879 Speaker 1: and we're not gonna do seriously, And I go, what 360 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 1: happened to the ladies? She got chills? Right, And when 361 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: I say that was when I set out and I 362 00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 1: cried again, and I said, I said, Lord, this is 363 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: too painful, this dream. I can see it in my 364 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:06,040 Speaker 1: mind of what I want to do, and it's so painful. 365 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 1: The knows that I'm gonna I'm gonna focus on my 366 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,560 Speaker 1: acting and let you bring this back to me. Um, 367 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, because I just don't want to. I don't 368 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: want to think about it. Which bat you're telling anybody 369 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: you didn't just sit around and soul because you didn't 370 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 1: sit around and going, oh this is this is the 371 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: end of the road. Because you and I were talking 372 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: all the time, you know, because at the time that 373 00:19:24,359 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 1: whole twenty twelve to twenty fifty sixteen, you know, Steve 374 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:30,399 Speaker 1: Harvey and I was up in Chicago. We would invite 375 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 1: you on to the show as a gas and we 376 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: talked about the acting opportunities, and you will, you were 377 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: staying focused. You were letting the good in you, the 378 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,639 Speaker 1: success in you, to keep moving you forward and not 379 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,760 Speaker 1: waddling around into what else. No, I didn't. And I 380 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,920 Speaker 1: remember doing, um, um, the Steve Harvey Show, and I 381 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: remember you guys will following me out there, and I 382 00:19:50,600 --> 00:19:52,960 Speaker 1: remember you would be so encouraging to me, and you 383 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: would tell me how good I was. The one thing 384 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 1: I know I was. I'm a great guest. Yes you are, Yes, 385 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: you are. The mark of agree guest is you don't 386 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: have the talk show host don't have to do any work. 387 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: They can literally sit back and enjoy you. And that's 388 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: one of the things that I knew as soon as 389 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 1: I stepped out on a couch and somebody had to 390 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: interview me, just Jabi Guida, let me go and enjoy 391 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: the show, and I just started. I really my acting 392 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: took off. I was a regular and sitcoms and doing 393 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: the movies and critically acclaimed movies. And what happened was 394 00:20:28,200 --> 00:20:31,959 Speaker 1: out of the blue, when I tell you, out of 395 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: the blue, I got a call. Not only was I 396 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: co hosting, they asked me back to co host for 397 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: a week the View. I hadn't been on the View 398 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 1: for three years and they called me and they said, 399 00:20:44,040 --> 00:20:47,439 Speaker 1: could you just sit in for an entire week? So 400 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 1: that was amazing. I got to sit in for an 401 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: entire week and I got a phone call from jeb 402 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 1: My Mercury and they said, could you fill in for 403 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: a week now. At the time, oh, I didn't even 404 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: say this. I had gone to dish. They wanted me 405 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:04,440 Speaker 1: to be a co host in Atlanta, and I said, no, 406 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm not moving to Atlanta. I'm thinking, if you'll if 407 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,719 Speaker 1: you'll let me do it in La I'll think about it. 408 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: And I met with the deditionation Folks, which is owned 409 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,960 Speaker 1: by five by Fox, absolutely Fox and the payment Steve 410 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Brown over the Fox. Steve Brown and I remember being 411 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,480 Speaker 1: in the meeting Rishan and we're talking, talking, talking, and 412 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: I said to them, with my ultimate goal, I you know, 413 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 1: being a co host is great, but my ultimate goal 414 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 1: is I want my own talk show. And they said 415 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: to me, they go, well, Nick Cannon has a show, 416 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: so don't a face. And I go, Nick Cannon, Now 417 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: this is the reasoning Nick Cannon and we love each 418 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,639 Speaker 1: other out. Nick Cannon, Well, I said it was because 419 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: the people who who filled in from Wendy by themselves, 420 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,639 Speaker 1: they all got a show. Kekey Palmer went on to 421 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: co host with Michael Strayhand. She got that gig. And 422 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 1: right after filling as Wendy, Michael Rappaport got I think 423 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: he did a pilot, uh for a talk show. It 424 00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: didn't go. Jerry O'Connell did a six week test run, 425 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 1: remember his talk show. Those three they all had to 426 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:24,280 Speaker 1: say it. I like, and so Nick Cannon also, he 427 00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: stills in't by himself. Still was five of us. So 428 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: when they said Nick Cannon had it, so I was like, 429 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:34,800 Speaker 1: everybody who feels it got something. And literally I went. 430 00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:37,399 Speaker 1: They said, yeah, Nick Cannon's his show's coming out, so 431 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 1: we don't really have the space for another talk show, 432 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: and but we want you to be on Dish. Now 433 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,399 Speaker 1: I accept the destination. Thank goodness, because as soon as 434 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 1: I accepted it, uh, quarantine happened. So they had already right. 435 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 1: But when they said Nick Cannon, and it just it 436 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,960 Speaker 1: was a representative of everything that, like, I could see 437 00:22:59,040 --> 00:23:02,160 Speaker 1: my dream. But I'm gonna Lord, everybody else's getting it 438 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 1: but me. And I went downstairs in the parking lot 439 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: and I started crying again, and my manager started crying too, 440 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: and I looked at him and I go, what are 441 00:23:11,320 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 1: you're crying for? And I'm crying, Creed, You're making me cry? 442 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:18,159 Speaker 1: And I go with this. I don't like I'm just 443 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: like rich white Man. I don't like being cry And 444 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: I go, you just let me to be crying. You're 445 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 1: getting commission. You're fine. So after that happened, I stayed 446 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 1: on this nation, which prepared me again. Then I was 447 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: at home by myself, reading a prompter, and also once 448 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,560 Speaker 1: we got back in the studio, reading a prompter by myself. 449 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: But you would think that I was really um interacting 450 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: with the Atlanta crew, bratt and head cracking all of them. 451 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: So reading that prompter helped me tell a story like 452 00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,199 Speaker 1: a bunch of people are in the room. So that 453 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: prepared me so when the when the offer came from 454 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: Detmar for me to fill in, I was on the 455 00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: View guest co hosting, and they called jeb Mar Mercury 456 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 1: and said, could you fill in for a week. I 457 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,400 Speaker 1: ended up filling in for a week, and they kept 458 00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:10,120 Speaker 1: asking me to come back for another week. This nation 459 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: was getting mad and they were saying they, hey, wait 460 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 1: a minute, hold on't they said no. I said, Lord, 461 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: you gotta work it out. If this is from you, 462 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: then you will work it out. Then all of a sudden, 463 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: this nation would say go ahead and do another couple 464 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,399 Speaker 1: of weeks. Ellen called me. I hadn't been on The 465 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: Ellen Show in twelve years. And then she called and 466 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 1: she said, I want you to come back for my 467 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:34,480 Speaker 1: last season. And then but then I was supposed to 468 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,400 Speaker 1: sit in for a week with zeb Mar Mercury, who 469 00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 1: did the Wendy Show. And they said absolutely not because 470 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:43,200 Speaker 1: we've had you to sit in. And I said, Lord, 471 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: if this is what I'm supposed to do, you'll work 472 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 1: out both Rashaan. Do you know they worked it out 473 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 1: so I was able to do Ellen. I hadn't set 474 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: in her seat for twelve years, and I still was 475 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: able to go to New York and my ratings were 476 00:24:55,560 --> 00:25:01,320 Speaker 1: so high when I filled in for Wendsy and I said, Lord, 477 00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna leave it to you. I'm not gonna 478 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,760 Speaker 1: think about it. I'm just gonna do what she created 479 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,240 Speaker 1: me to do. And then they came through with the 480 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,679 Speaker 1: offer for me to have my own talk show. Congratulation, 481 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: same offer to day come back within two thousand and nine. 482 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: More money, more money, money. You gotta know your words 483 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: and number one number one. I know you do. We 484 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,359 Speaker 1: text each other all the time. You text me. Look 485 00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: at this, I'm number one the women and then number 486 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 1: one talking to daytime talk show. And but that doesn't 487 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,240 Speaker 1: stop you. I'm just telling you something about her. You know, 488 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,159 Speaker 1: she has a movie she's gonna do this summer. But 489 00:25:31,280 --> 00:25:35,160 Speaker 1: more importantly, she's doing a comedy tour with the incredibly 490 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,159 Speaker 1: funny actress Kim Whitley, who I also have known for 491 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 1: many many years. To two. Funny Mama's podcast was started 492 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: basically on the Tim Join the Show correct that's when 493 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,000 Speaker 1: you guys got together as a duo and now you're 494 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,280 Speaker 1: turning into the podcast. It has one back to back 495 00:25:49,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 1: in WACP Awards for an Image Award for Outstanding Podcasts. 496 00:25:55,119 --> 00:25:58,119 Speaker 1: So what's this? What's this tour? Y'all doing? Stand up? 497 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: What are y'all doing out there? We decided to It 498 00:26:01,760 --> 00:26:03,159 Speaker 1: took me three years to get this girl to do 499 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,399 Speaker 1: a podcast with me, and she finally said yes, and 500 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 1: we were doing that during the quarantine. We just wanted 501 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 1: to make people laugh and it's been so successful and 502 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: we've won the NAACP Image Awards. I say, Ken, we 503 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:15,960 Speaker 1: got to take this on the road because I don't 504 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 1: know any duo that can get on stage and stand 505 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: there for an hour and talk to each other. And 506 00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: she said yes. So we're doing some test days to 507 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: see how it goes. If we can stand each other 508 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 1: for three consecutive weekends, and if we do that, we 509 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:36,639 Speaker 1: will continue this tour. And so're you can go to 510 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,479 Speaker 1: Cherry Show tv dot com to find out where we're 511 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: gonna be. We're gonna be in New Brunswick, New Jersey, 512 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: Ben Salem, Pennsylvania, and Wilmington, Delaware, and so Cherry showtv 513 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 1: dot com to find out exactly where the theaters are, 514 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,399 Speaker 1: and we're just doing stand up and we bowled our 515 00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: stand up comments. We love doing stand up, so to 516 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,879 Speaker 1: be able to go out there and take this experience 517 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:02,800 Speaker 1: live to folks, those Shenanigan, I'm so excited. Well, I 518 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: just I gotta ask this because both of you do 519 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 1: a brilliant improv y'all Do y'all do any of that? 520 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 1: Do y'all come back on stage together? Or just one 521 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: doesn't said and then the other doesn't said? How does 522 00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,720 Speaker 1: that work? As far as stand up? Risant when I say, 523 00:27:15,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: we've been doing the improv and we get on stage 524 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,840 Speaker 1: and we get up, and we did a live stream 525 00:27:20,960 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: during quarantine, and you know, so people could see it. 526 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: We did almost ninety minutes improv on stage together just talking. Now, 527 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 1: what we do is we come on stage together for 528 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes, and we really got to be strict 529 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,479 Speaker 1: because Kim and I can talk for two days. Right, 530 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: come on for about fifty three minutes him, I leave, 531 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: I introduce Kim. She does stand up for about twenty 532 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 1: thirty minutes. I come back and I do usually about 533 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty minutes as well, then we do a 534 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,960 Speaker 1: Q and A together and we're on stage. Probably we're 535 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: on stage, and today's stay. This is a union theater. 536 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: Absolutely we were. We were just talk together and we 537 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: take questions from the audience and it's just a really 538 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,880 Speaker 1: great night. We'll tell us again, how can we find 539 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,920 Speaker 1: out about the dates and give us the three dates 540 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: again that right now? Tell everybody this is an initial 541 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,119 Speaker 1: start of a great stand up comedy tour, stand up comedy. 542 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: Both of them are doing it live stand up comedy tool. 543 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: It's called Two Funny Mamas starring Cherry Shepherd and Kim Whitley. 544 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,320 Speaker 1: Tell us those dates, tell us where we can go 545 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: and look get more information about tickets. May nineteenth, we 546 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: are in New Brunswood, New Jersey. May twentieth, we're ben Salem, Pennsylvania. 547 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,919 Speaker 1: May twenty first, we are in Wilmington, Delaware. You can 548 00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: go to Cherry showtv dot com and buy a ticket. 549 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: And this weekend I'm at the City Winery in Chelsea 550 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 1: Piers in New York. If you're in New York March 551 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 1: thirty first and May fourth, I'm also at the City 552 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: Winery in New York. What did I say? Or May 553 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: fourth if you're in town. So those are the standard dates. 554 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 1: But can I just thank you for when I got 555 00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,400 Speaker 1: to stalk show course now that I have it, when 556 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 1: they offered a toith me and they said yes, I 557 00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: was like they gave a simpy you know, and I'm 558 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: thankful you said to me, who is your audience? Who 559 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 1: are you? Who are you talking to? And it really 560 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: made me sit down and go who am I? And 561 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,840 Speaker 1: that is that is informed every decision I make because 562 00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: remember I said I didn't know what I was doing 563 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: eighteen years ago. Today I know how I can say no, 564 00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 1: I know who I'm talking to, who my audience is. 565 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 1: We're number two we tired with Doctor Phil for women 566 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: twenty five to fifty four, right behind Kelly and m 567 00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Ryan and number one new talk show. So I know 568 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: from you saying Sherry, who are you? Who are you 569 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:48,240 Speaker 1: talking to? I'm a single mom, I'm an entrepreneur, i 570 00:29:48,800 --> 00:29:52,239 Speaker 1: am divorced, I was married one. I'm a woman who 571 00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: came up, who went, who was down and got back up. 572 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: That's who I'm talking to. I'm a woman in her fifties. 573 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm talking to women also who are trying to redo 574 00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: their life and reinvent themselves. That's who I'm talking to. 575 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 1: So I know when when somebody comes to me with 576 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 1: old cockamami idea twenty one year old girl, poor beer 577 00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 1: over her friend, that's not me show, that is that you. 578 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: She's the incredible with Sheriffy Shepherd. You know your friend, 579 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: and you know I love you to death, and I 580 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: know we text back and forth the good times and 581 00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: the bad times that we've had in our career. But 582 00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840 Speaker 1: right now it's the good times and congratulations. 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