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That's EYL you 35 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 7: n I V E R s I t Y dot com. 36 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 6: See you there. 37 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 5: We have the honor of having a conversation with two 38 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:04,960 Speaker 5: of Baltimore's brightest entrepreneurs, really killing the game. And they're 39 00:02:04,960 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 5: also a couple as well. So this is going to 40 00:02:07,520 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 5: be a very through conversation about business, about family, about 41 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 5: how to balance that and really growing different verticals, something 42 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 5: that I think any entrepreneur needs to learn. You can't 43 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 5: rely just on one stream of income. That's extremely important, 44 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 5: and you guys have built the very impressive portfolio for 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,520 Speaker 5: being joining us in this conversation will go over but 46 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 5: first and foremost, thank you for being joined us in 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 5: this conversation. 48 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 6: Appreciate it. 49 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:34,600 Speaker 3: Thank you. 50 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it means a lot, right we talk about 51 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: going back and giving back. The fact that we're here 52 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: in Morgan, the fact that your alumni for Morgan, the 53 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 4: fact that you've got some business skills from here, it 54 00:02:47,360 --> 00:02:49,959 Speaker 4: means that much much, that much more that you're coming 55 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:51,800 Speaker 4: back and give it to the community that helps you 56 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 4: with some of yourself. 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 6: Clap it up for Chris with being back in the building. 58 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:57,040 Speaker 3: Thank you. 59 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 5: So I want to I want to just over some 60 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:04,679 Speaker 5: companies that you guys have. So you have BTST Services, 61 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 5: which is a mental health company, right. 62 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 3: You have Selfish, which is a beauty spa in event space. 63 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 5: You have Carpe Dim, which is a management company that 64 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 5: supports startups and small businesses. You have Outcrowd Restaurant Group, 65 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,920 Speaker 5: which is a company that develops and manages a chain 66 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 5: of food and beverage and entertainment venues. You have black Swan, 67 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: a restaurant in Baltimore that's part of the group. You 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:34,239 Speaker 5: have Signment Enterprises, an investment firm with business holdings in 69 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 5: Carpe Dim, BTSD, and all of the other companies that 70 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 5: you have, and then you also have the BTST Cares, 71 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 5: which is a nonprofit organization that serves poverty stricten individuals 72 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 5: in the DMV area. So did I leave anything out? 73 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:59,400 Speaker 5: Maybe like ten, So extremely impressive portfolio. We'll talk about 74 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:04,000 Speaker 5: each one of them individually. But just before we start, 75 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:07,680 Speaker 5: all of those businesses, all those businesses doing well, was 76 00:04:07,720 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 5: this your plan from the beginning? Did you guys know 77 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 5: that you were going to be successful entrepreneurs? Did you 78 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 5: know that you was going to have multiple businesses up 79 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 5: and running. 80 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:21,719 Speaker 3: To do something? 81 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 8: And I knew I wanted to have impact. Would I 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,640 Speaker 8: think that you know, we've been dis diversified and a 83 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,760 Speaker 8: successful and operate in these businesses. I would say, no, 84 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 8: we've been blessed to reach some phenomenal heights. And when 85 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,400 Speaker 8: I first started out, I mean I probably only wanted 86 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 8: to achieve a fraction of this. I think she saw 87 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 8: more in me at the time than I did, and 88 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,400 Speaker 8: saw more for us as well. So you know, I 89 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 8: think one thing leads to a leads to the next. 90 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 8: So I didn't go into it saying, hey, this is 91 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 8: exactly what we want to do, this is how we 92 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,360 Speaker 8: want to create these businesses. This is what we want 93 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 8: our portfolio to look like. I think just continue to 94 00:05:02,960 --> 00:05:05,840 Speaker 8: just connect yourselves with great individuals, put yourself in the 95 00:05:05,920 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 8: right RUMs. I saw a video the other day where 96 00:05:08,560 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 8: you was talking about exposure, and I think exposure, you know, 97 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 8: has been great for me, you know, and for us 98 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:20,240 Speaker 8: continuing to you know, when when you're around certain things, 99 00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:23,160 Speaker 8: now you can begin to normalize it. You can normalize 100 00:05:23,160 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 8: it to know that you can achieve it. You like 101 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 8: I like black Swan. A lot of people I know 102 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,839 Speaker 8: a few guys I know tried to open head restaurants before, 103 00:05:32,839 --> 00:05:34,479 Speaker 8: and I'm like, oh, this dude looks like me. He 104 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 8: can do this. I know I can do this. Not 105 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 8: from a cocky perspective. I just like, I know I'm 106 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 8: smart like he is, or whatever else, and just people 107 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 8: who throw on the events and stuff like that. And 108 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 8: we was just talking with her dad. It's not just 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 8: the exposure from the perspective of, hey, I can achieve this, 110 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 8: but the exposure that now you know how to move 111 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 8: in those RUMs when you're there, right, You learn to 112 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 8: get comfortable, You learn what the conversations are, You learn 113 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 8: how people live and how they structure their lives and stuff. 114 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 3: Like that. 115 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 8: So I think just exposure helped create opportunities for us 116 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 8: and kind of let us know what was possible, and 117 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 8: then I think things just continue to happen from there. 118 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:14,839 Speaker 6: What you say, sir, you said something very important. 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: You said you saw something to you that you didn't 120 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 4: from the beginning before all that some of those characteristics 121 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 4: that you saw from the beginning, before all the success 122 00:06:22,600 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 4: before I mean during the T shirt did what did 123 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: you see in them? 124 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 6: And I guess vice versa what you see in her? 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 4: And said like, this is going to be somebody that 126 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: I can spend my life with, but this is also 127 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 4: somebody that I can actually build business with. 128 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: You can share it, you can start at my incredible looks. 129 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 9: Oh yes, of course. My answer is totally different than his. 130 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 9: I did not aspire to be an entrepreneur. I was 131 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 9: not that kid like, oh, I want to own a business. 132 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 6: No. 133 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:51,440 Speaker 9: I thought I was going to go to college, get 134 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 9: a degree, and get a nine to five. That was 135 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 9: going to be my life. I was okay with it, 136 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 9: and that was all I saw. But it wasn't until 137 00:06:58,880 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 9: we met that I realized that he had a level 138 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 9: of freedom that I didn't have. 139 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:04,039 Speaker 2: So I got up. 140 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 9: I went to work every day, I'm slaving away at 141 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 9: a desk, and he would call me from a golf course, so. 142 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 3: We'll do it. 143 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:14,800 Speaker 9: It created a level of envy, it really did. And 144 00:07:14,840 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 9: eventually over the years I left and came on board 145 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 9: with him. But he also was one of the hardest 146 00:07:22,360 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 9: working people that I had ever met. 147 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:25,080 Speaker 2: So that was what I saw. 148 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 9: Regardless if it was a small business, a medium sized business, 149 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 9: whatever it was, he would get up every day and 150 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 9: go for it. And that was kind of what I 151 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 9: saw that I and I understood that he had a 152 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 9: gift and I could trust that the businesses he was 153 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 9: starting were going to be successful. 154 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 5: That's sweet, you should say, so, Chris, let me ask 155 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 5: you this at Morgan stage, So. 156 00:07:50,080 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 8: Can I can I tell what I say? I didn't 157 00:07:52,000 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 8: want it to be one sided. I guess with her. 158 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 8: You know when we we we we were brought up 159 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 8: like two different ways but similar, but two different ways. 160 00:08:02,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 8: And so you know the way that she sees the 161 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 8: world sometimes it is opposed. It used to pose sometimes 162 00:08:07,440 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 8: the way I see the world. And some people can 163 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 8: look at that and see like, oh, that's just create 164 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 8: just great opposition, Like we have great value in the 165 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 8: way that she sees it's the same. We don't see 166 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 8: eye to eye, but there's great value in the way 167 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 8: that she sees the world. I may be a little 168 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 8: bit more risky, she may be a little bit more conservative, 169 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 8: and she kind of helps balance out that risk exposure. 170 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 3: Right. 171 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 8: But even outside of that, she saw like that with 172 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,880 Speaker 8: the healthcare company, she was like, I only provided one 173 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 8: small service of it of the total portfolio of the 174 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 8: total company that we provide now and the year she 175 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:41,880 Speaker 8: was like, you should just go ahead and have your 176 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,440 Speaker 8: own clinic. You should do this while you're waiting on 177 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 8: them for a referral. And I was comfortable, and I'm like, 178 00:08:45,760 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 8: because I like this. You know I'm doing I do 179 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 8: well at what we do. And she she sees the 180 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 8: world differently. So I admire that perspective in her and 181 00:08:55,679 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 8: her her structure and her order. You know, like you 182 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,079 Speaker 8: need to mighty that can see the world differently and 183 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,400 Speaker 8: provide great balance for that. 184 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: You know. She was our first HR director. 185 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:09,960 Speaker 8: So when she left her job, she I was upset 186 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,559 Speaker 8: that she like she said that she was I was 187 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 8: at work. I mean I was I wanted to go 188 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 8: on vacation and she had to go work flex time 189 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 8: and work extra hours, and I'm like, dude, this is 190 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 8: killing our vacation, Like I need you just need to leave, 191 00:09:21,000 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 8: Like let's go. You can come here. I have a 192 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 8: bunch of files and this file frum. Come organize these. 193 00:09:26,440 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 8: And so the company began to grow and you got HR. 194 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:30,600 Speaker 8: But it really doesn't work when your wife is HR 195 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,679 Speaker 8: of your company. Nobody really has a safe space. And 196 00:09:33,720 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 8: not that they needed one, but I'm just saying nobody 197 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 8: had a safe space to complain. So and then she 198 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,880 Speaker 8: just continued to be a mom and then started her 199 00:09:41,920 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 8: own stuff. 200 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: So I just love the way that, you know, she 201 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 3: sees it. 202 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 8: It's frustrating at times, but I love the way that 203 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: she sees the world differently than me. 204 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 5: So we have Morgan State, and I know that there's 205 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 5: at least a few students here. So I want to 206 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,319 Speaker 5: ask this question, what are some important lessons you learned 207 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 5: at Morgan State University's Graduate School of Social Work that 208 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:05,560 Speaker 5: you applied to be tst Services. 209 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:08,280 Speaker 6: Go Bears. 210 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 8: First thing I learned is that you, yeah, it's this 211 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 8: bridge at Morgan where everybody hangs out at and you 212 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 8: just you know, you just can't stay there for too long, 213 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 8: or you'll wind up doing an extra year of college 214 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:22,960 Speaker 8: like I did. 215 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: A couple who's counting, see this is the world. 216 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:30,079 Speaker 8: I'm looking at it optimistically and she's looking at it 217 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 8: very rationally right now. But you know, when I was 218 00:10:35,679 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 8: so my undergrad was in business and my graduate degree 219 00:10:38,840 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 8: was in social work, so I understood I was able 220 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 8: to learn how to market, right I always I had 221 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 8: a few businesses before I came to Morgan, but I 222 00:10:48,559 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 8: was able to take this understanding of how to market 223 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 8: and brand and formalize it into constructural business terms and 224 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 8: then just learn understand how business operates on a macro level. 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 8: And then you mix that with the understanding of psychology 226 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 8: and social work, so you understand human behavior. So now 227 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 8: you understand human behavior and you match that with marketing. 228 00:11:09,960 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 8: Now you can understand you can create things that you 229 00:11:13,280 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 8: understand how people respond to and what is their need. 230 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 8: Their need is to be heard, their need is to 231 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 8: be feel to feel validated, to feel accepted, at all 232 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 8: of these other things. So then you create concepts and 233 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 8: experiences that you know make people feel these ways. So 234 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 8: that was one of the biggest things that I've learned 235 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 8: that Morgan, And yeah, what are. 236 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: Some of those, like, can you give an example of 237 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 5: like something? Because you're right as far as the psychology, 238 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 5: a lot of times people don't think psychology and business go. 239 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 3: Hand in hand. 240 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,840 Speaker 5: Even when I was learning business sales, I learned a 241 00:11:46,880 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 5: lot of things about psychology and the art of selling 242 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 5: to get people to buy into things. So anything in 243 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 5: particular that stands out that you learned that you carried 244 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:00,199 Speaker 5: over to business. 245 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 3: I mean I learned this before Morgan. 246 00:12:02,520 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 8: I used to work at a telemarketing firm NBNA, selling 247 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:11,560 Speaker 8: credit cards and getting people give you a response. And 248 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 8: so when people give you a response, they told you 249 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 8: how to cushion it to be like, hey, I understand 250 00:12:16,840 --> 00:12:19,920 Speaker 8: what should we learn later learn as validation or affirment. 251 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 8: So you provide them that statement and then you cushing 252 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:26,839 Speaker 8: it and then you rebuttle so you don't just take 253 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 8: no for the answer. You're like, hey, I understand why 254 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 8: you feel that way, however, you know, so making sure 255 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 8: and just you know, you really don't take no for 256 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 8: an answer in that type of environment. 257 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:36,880 Speaker 3: So that's something that sticks with me. 258 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,520 Speaker 8: I always tell my son, like, no, it's not a no, 259 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 8: you just haven't said the right thing yet. Or met 260 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 8: the right person for that to become a yes. So 261 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:45,440 Speaker 8: that kind of sticks out to me. 262 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 4: I'm thinking the years two thousand and eight and you're 263 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 4: going into the mental health here field not the most 264 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 4: popular field at the time. 265 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 6: Most people are probably even thinking that this could be 266 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 6: a lucrative field. 267 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 4: Is the study of human behavior would make you feel 268 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 4: so confident that this could be something number one that 269 00:13:02,760 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 4: could change your community and number two we can build 270 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 4: business around. 271 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 8: So I would like to say that, but I started 272 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 8: BTSC before I went back and got my Masters of 273 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 8: Social Work. So I when I used to own a 274 00:13:16,080 --> 00:13:18,959 Speaker 8: clothing store called c Note and so it was it's 275 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 8: an urban clothing store. We designed our stuff and we 276 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 8: had a store for it. And you know, it's a 277 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 8: sales driven business. So the first set of sales and 278 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 8: we were working with limited capital, so the first set 279 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 8: of sales we were put back into our reup and 280 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 8: getting new merchandise. So I didn't get paid until like 281 00:13:34,800 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 8: the third set of sales, and a lot of times 282 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:40,320 Speaker 8: those third set of sales never came. So I've got 283 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 8: a part time job, and I was working at group 284 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 8: homes and I was working at overnight at just mentoring companies. 285 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 8: So I kind of saw I got my experience in 286 00:13:49,400 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 8: my end too social work and working in these type 287 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 8: of organizations there, and from there I just developed a 288 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:57,840 Speaker 8: love for passion for helping and for and just like 289 00:13:57,960 --> 00:13:59,920 Speaker 8: helping improve these individuals' lives. 290 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 3: But then I also saw. 291 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 8: A lot of the gaps in service delivery, and I 292 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 8: was like, man, they're really doing these We were just talking 293 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 8: about this in the back. They weren't providing holistic you 294 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 8: know what. We were just talking about this in the back. 295 00:14:10,640 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 8: They weren't providing you know, teaching them about how to 296 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 8: manage money and stuff like that and uh, employment skills. 297 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 8: So I wanted to build a program that embodied those 298 00:14:21,960 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 8: different characteristics. 299 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 3: And that's kind of how I got into it. 300 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 8: And then when I went back to social my master's degree, 301 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 8: I didn't even want to go back for my masters. 302 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,520 Speaker 8: One of my buddies was like, you you're nothing without 303 00:14:31,520 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 8: those letters behind your name. And I'm just being arrogant. 304 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 8: I'm like, I do better than the teachers. What am 305 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 8: I going to go do go back to school for 306 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 8: or whatever? Just ignorance and he was like, you're nothing 307 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 8: without those letters behind your name. So I went back 308 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 8: and got my license, and then doing that I learned 309 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 8: about that this isn't not just like a hustle you're 310 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 8: just not working with these individuals. 311 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 3: You can really build. 312 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 8: A sustainable like and like scalable business and really have 313 00:14:56,160 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 8: tremendous impact throughout the community. 314 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 5: So either one of you can answer this question what's 315 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:04,160 Speaker 5: the business model for this? Like how do you actually 316 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 5: make money from mental health services? 317 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 2: I know you're not asking me, don't look at me. 318 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 8: Well you should know too because you actually she actually 319 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 8: worked in the billing department, which is me and her billing. 320 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 3: We were a small business when she had a baby. 321 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,360 Speaker 8: We were we were in the hospital billing and everything else, 322 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 8: like a few hours after she gave birth. 323 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 3: So we definitely know how to build a part of it. 324 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 8: But the way we it's it's so you provide needed services. 325 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 8: It's no different than you going to your doctor for 326 00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 8: a physical or you going to your for your primary 327 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 8: care of obg yn. Right, they've been able to or 328 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 8: a company like Cosa Permanente. Right, they just created an 329 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 8: ecosystem where, hey, we provide services that consumers need. Right, 330 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 8: So we provide therapy, we provide these other support services. 331 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 8: We provide psychiatry medication management, and for that, insurance companies 332 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 8: pay us, right, So it's I guess it's just scale, 333 00:16:02,520 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 8: you know, and we have the better that we are 334 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:07,120 Speaker 8: able to do, you know. 335 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 3: And we have several facilities throughout the state. 336 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 8: Of Maryland, and we provide telehealth, so we service basically 337 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 8: the entire state of Maryland. So I guess we've just 338 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 8: been able to build a significant footprint that allowed us 339 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 8: to scale and just have a lot of individuals who 340 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 8: patronize the business. 341 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: But I think you also left out. 342 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 9: We started off with children, right, and we were treating 343 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 9: children that had I guess they were mild diagnosis, right, 344 00:16:31,240 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 9: But we started realizing that the PTSD and the ADHD 345 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:35,520 Speaker 9: was starting deeper than. 346 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,280 Speaker 2: Within those children, but it was coming from the home. 347 00:16:37,600 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 9: So then we decided to treat the parents, and so 348 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 9: then we grew to service and adults as well, and 349 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 9: then from there it was almost as if every time 350 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 9: we grew it was because of a need that the 351 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 9: community had, not necessarily something that we saw, like you. 352 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 3: Were talking about just creating those verticals. 353 00:16:52,240 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 8: So we have this example like Disney World, Right, you 354 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:58,440 Speaker 8: go to Disney World, you typically stay in the Disney park, 355 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 8: you eat it Disney restaurant, you go to a Disney park, 356 00:17:01,760 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 8: you buy Disney merch all. 357 00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 3: Of that other stuff. 358 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:06,280 Speaker 8: They created an entire ecosystem that wraps you up and 359 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 8: Disney related stuff. We want our client to come to 360 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 8: us and get total care. So if you come for 361 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 8: us for you were you know, maybe just hyperactive in school. 362 00:17:19,080 --> 00:17:21,359 Speaker 8: So hey, they referred to us for a diagnosed I 363 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:23,879 Speaker 8: mean referred to us for an evaluation. We complete that 364 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 8: evaluation and from there we identify that they need therapy, 365 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 8: and then from their therapy, it's not enough to maintain. 366 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 8: So we want to you know, give them a you know, 367 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,919 Speaker 8: you want to engage the psychiatrist for medication management, and 368 00:17:33,960 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 8: then we have support services associated with that, and then 369 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 8: we have you know, SUID because substance abuse is a 370 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:43,520 Speaker 8: major problem as well that it runs co currently with 371 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:48,160 Speaker 8: mental health. So we created this whole ecosystem of those things. 372 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:50,320 Speaker 8: And then some of the sub clients also need places 373 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,000 Speaker 8: to live, so that you can create housing opportunities. 374 00:17:52,400 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 3: And stuff like that. 375 00:17:53,119 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 8: So you just build a whole ecosystem and it's not 376 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:59,399 Speaker 8: from like a capitalistic perspective, it's from a need perspective 377 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 8: and if you can, and mental health is that people 378 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 8: running And a lot of problem with social workers and 379 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 8: mental health is that people do stuff because they love 380 00:18:06,880 --> 00:18:08,639 Speaker 8: the work that they do, but then they don't have 381 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,160 Speaker 8: the business acumen behind it. So you get a lot 382 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 8: of passionate people and they would operate in a deficit 383 00:18:15,520 --> 00:18:17,320 Speaker 8: if it was up to them because they just love 384 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 8: the work that they do. And my partner Jada always 385 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 8: says that the two doesn't have to be mutually exclusive. 386 00:18:23,119 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 8: You can do great work then and be also run 387 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 8: a successful business as well. So you know, that's kind 388 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 8: of like you know how a business model works. 389 00:18:32,720 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 4: You brought up Disney, and part of our conversation backstage 390 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 4: was if you go to Disney World, the chance of 391 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,199 Speaker 4: you seeing Bob Eiger Price slim, right, You're not going 392 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 4: to see the CEO there. 393 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 6: And a lot of times in our communities when we. 394 00:18:44,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: Create businesses, we create them because we like them, but 395 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: we become employees to the business. So talk about scaling 396 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 4: your business but having systems in place that they can 397 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 4: run where you don't have to necessarily be there every 398 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 4: day on the clock. 399 00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 9: So the term we've coined is sustainable systems. 400 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,280 Speaker 3: Right, sustainable, replicatable. 401 00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 9: All right, sustainable and replicatable systems. And the reason why 402 00:19:10,480 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 9: is because the goal is not to be a slave 403 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 9: to your business. The goal is to be able to 404 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 9: create the business, make it operable, hire people that can 405 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 9: now run the business that you've created, and now you're 406 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 9: able to move on to something else. If you're in 407 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:27,720 Speaker 9: there every day, you it's hard to see the it's 408 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 9: hard for you to focus on everything that the business 409 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 9: needs because you're in the middle of it, in the mud, 410 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 9: doing it every day. You can't necessarily come up with 411 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,919 Speaker 9: the marketing plans or the business plan or learn how 412 00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:41,679 Speaker 9: to grow the business if you're basically just operating. 413 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 2: It day to day. 414 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:45,240 Speaker 9: So what we like to do is create systems that 415 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 9: we can now right write up, train someone to do them, 416 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 9: hand it off to them, and now they're able to 417 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 9: go off and do something. 418 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,679 Speaker 8: Well, even things that we don't have to write out. 419 00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 8: It's funny people some people are like, Janine, what do 420 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 8: you do? 421 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 7: Like? 422 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 8: I don't want to work in the business. I don't 423 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 8: want to choose like I invest, I invest. I don't 424 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 8: want to work in the business. I don't want to 425 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 8: be the chef. I don't want to be the GM. 426 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,440 Speaker 8: I'll invest in the business. I'll help with creative concept, 427 00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 8: I'll help get it there. We'll interview the correct people 428 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 8: and put them in place. But the best thing you 429 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 8: need to do is is I don't want to create 430 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 8: the policy. You know, I don't have a formal background 431 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 8: in each business that we own. You want to hire 432 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 8: the individuals who have that knowledge, who are smarter than 433 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 8: you create a team that people sometimes think that when 434 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 8: you hire smarter people in these respective fields, that they're 435 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 8: a competition there, that you should be intimidated. It's like, no, 436 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:32,720 Speaker 8: I know what I want to create. Here's the vision. 437 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 8: How do we do this, Let's bring this the market, 438 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 8: how do how do we how do we make this happen? 439 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 8: How do we make this experience? And then we'll chime 440 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:44,000 Speaker 8: in high level about you know, feedback and stuff like 441 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:45,439 Speaker 8: that of what we want to see from it. 442 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 3: So she's a little bit more hands off. 443 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 8: I'm managing some of the managers at some point through 444 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,520 Speaker 8: like our you know, our KPI meetings or whatever else 445 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 8: like that. 446 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 6: Got just a quick follow up. 447 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 4: So when we're talking about scale, you said that you've 448 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 4: moved throughout the state. When do you know it's the 449 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 4: appropriate time to now have multiple locations because that's something 450 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: where we're in our business, it's like, yeah, we're doing 451 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 4: great here, but we want to test the waters and 452 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,159 Speaker 4: see how far our reaches. 453 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 6: How do you figure that part out? 454 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 8: I want to answer that by going back to the 455 00:21:11,480 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 8: question that you asked at first. I think what we 456 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,120 Speaker 8: have to do as a community. We look at hey, 457 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 8: we I'm a I'm a baker, so I want to 458 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 8: start a bakery. Right, We got to get used to 459 00:21:21,320 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 8: owning businesses that we don't operate and that are in 460 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 8: fields that we have no experience in, right, Because the 461 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,920 Speaker 8: goal isn't to be a slave to the business. You 462 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 8: you have the idea and you want to build it. 463 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 8: And if you if it's just you, how many cakes 464 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:33,680 Speaker 8: can you bake? 465 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 3: So how many? How can you scale that? Right? 466 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 5: Uh? 467 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,919 Speaker 8: So what we've been able to do is it's been 468 00:21:38,960 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 8: a blessing that we've been able to scale because the 469 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 8: need we the meet. 470 00:21:43,520 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 3: The need calls us. 471 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,440 Speaker 8: Right, So before we go open the office in a 472 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 8: specific location, we've already had referral sources there. We've already 473 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 8: been working in that area in some sort, So us 474 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 8: open the office is just a form of say it's like, 475 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 8: we like to go with a demand in there, but 476 00:21:57,320 --> 00:21:59,159 Speaker 8: we what I like to say is like we like 477 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:02,119 Speaker 8: to go with a demand this and where the resources 478 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,760 Speaker 8: they are like, because you could have a demand and 479 00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 8: then not have the staff. 480 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 3: We had that in Secil County. We had a great demand. 481 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 8: People are saying, come out here, there's no other organizations 482 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:10,760 Speaker 8: out here. 483 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 3: We're like, perfect, we got out there. 484 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 8: The workforce wasn't there, so there was a reason why 485 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:17,719 Speaker 8: people weren't out there, right, So where the where the 486 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:20,119 Speaker 8: where the where the demand and where the resources in 487 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 8: a sect is where we like to be. And but 488 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 8: you have to create systems that are And it's so 489 00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 8: funny that, uh, when my partner, Jada, she had joined 490 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:34,760 Speaker 8: us when we were just when we were scaling the clinic, right, 491 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,360 Speaker 8: and she was like, we have to I had paid disparities. 492 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:41,640 Speaker 8: Somebody in pg got paid this thing, somebody in Baltimore 493 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 8: got paid this thing. 494 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 3: We had no vacation policy. 495 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 8: The policy would just go whenever you want, just don't 496 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 8: be abusive or whatever else. She was like, no, we 497 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 8: have to have the same policy everywhere. The people's role 498 00:22:53,000 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 8: have to be the same the pay has to be 499 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:58,359 Speaker 8: the same everything. So that's creating a system, right, and 500 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 8: then how do we manage these companies in other areas. 501 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 8: We have to have touch points, right, we have to 502 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,479 Speaker 8: have dashboards and touch points. We have to have these 503 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:08,439 Speaker 8: these different meetings that allow us to touch in but 504 00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 8: without actually being there. 505 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 5: You know. 506 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 8: So, but in your payroll system, just different things like payroll, right, 507 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 8: making sure that people are put in the right way. 508 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 8: Make sure that you're how we running payroll. Let's do 509 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 8: it this way, whether this is a small business or 510 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 8: whether this is a corporation, because we know we want 511 00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 8: to scale up to that. Like right now, black Swan 512 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 8: has more employees than the needs and it has a 513 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 8: very overwhelming management system. But we're not building this for 514 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 8: one black Swan. We're building this for eight black Swans. 515 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 8: So it may seem od to people who are in 516 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 8: the restaurant industry now, but when we're eight restaurants in, 517 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:47,639 Speaker 8: they'll already have their rhythm when we'll be able to 518 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:48,480 Speaker 8: run to the next thing. 519 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 5: So the healthcare business in America, as far as it's 520 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,640 Speaker 5: the largest business in America, as far as expenditures federal government, 521 00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,959 Speaker 5: I think it's like thirty five percent of the budget, 522 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:07,560 Speaker 5: more money spent on healthcare than the military. And most 523 00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 5: people when you think about healthcare, you think about, you know, 524 00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 5: doctors and disease and surgery, but mental health is a 525 00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,040 Speaker 5: is a very big part of it is unfortunately getting 526 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 5: bigger and bigger. So the business is actually a pretty 527 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 5: brilliant idea, but it seems costly to start How what 528 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 5: was the startup cost? And like for anybody that's looking 529 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 5: to get into the space, what do they need, like 530 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 5: what certificates with certifications, what do you need to actually 531 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 5: get into the space that you guys are in. 532 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 8: So to your point, behavioral health is something that is 533 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 8: like it's growing substantially, Like well, it's a good and 534 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 8: a bad thing. The need for behavior health has grown, 535 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,520 Speaker 8: which is a sad thing because you know, people are 536 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:57,040 Speaker 8: dealing with a lot of traumas and a lot of 537 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:01,760 Speaker 8: disorders and people have been dealing with these things previously. 538 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 8: Is just that now they understand what they're dealing with. 539 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 8: So imagine you've been struggling with something and there was 540 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 8: no doctor, there was nobody that could speak to you 541 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 8: about what you're going through. 542 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,919 Speaker 3: If I if I hurt my leg, I know, I 543 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 3: can go. 544 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 8: To an orthopedic or something like that and they could 545 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,159 Speaker 8: tell me what I'm going through, right, But I know 546 00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 8: I'm feeling flood, I'm feeling fluttered, and I'm feeling nervous, 547 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 8: and I don't you know, some people might not know 548 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 8: that that labeled that as anxiety, right, I mean, obviously 549 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 8: there's other diagnostic criteria associated with that. But uh So, 550 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,679 Speaker 8: now it's great that the market is growing, there's an 551 00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 8: awareness around that, and that there is even more of 552 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 8: awareness growing, especially in the urban communities, because for years 553 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 8: we've suffered in silence, right, We've we've dealt with you know, 554 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,240 Speaker 8: trauma from murders and all this other stuff. We suffered 555 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 8: in silence. But now there's an awareness growing for and 556 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 8: there is a market. Firms like for us, the big 557 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 8: businesses are seeing this. Private equity firms like for us, 558 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,720 Speaker 8: like our company was just acquired by a private equity firm, 559 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 8: Webster Webster Equity Partners, thank you, and so they it's 560 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 8: the first time we actually announced that, thank you, but 561 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 8: we were acquired. I mean, we're still we're still part 562 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,200 Speaker 8: owners in it as well, but they wanted to they 563 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 8: believe in what we are doing. Like these are bankers 564 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,840 Speaker 8: who have no aspiration to be service providers, but they 565 00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,119 Speaker 8: know that this is a hot market right now. And 566 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 8: what they saw on us is that, Hey, you have 567 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,439 Speaker 8: this great platform, you built this great business. What do 568 00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 8: you need to continue to expand throughout Maryland, neighboring states 569 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:33,120 Speaker 8: across the country. One of the biggest things we need 570 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 8: is access to capital. So now that Webster has a 571 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,879 Speaker 8: fund of almost two billion dollars that they've raised, that 572 00:26:38,960 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 8: we have access to you to continue to do more 573 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 8: of what we do, but then buy other companies throughout 574 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 8: the state of Maryland, companies who are already existing doing 575 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 8: great work that you know may be looking to expand, 576 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 8: maybe looking for access, strategy and stuff like that, or 577 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 8: just who never thought about selling or stuff because they're 578 00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 8: strength in numbers. If and and the best thing about 579 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,960 Speaker 8: in then the process, and especially when you roll equity 580 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 8: in is that I get the I benefit from your 581 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 8: success and you benefit from my success. So we want 582 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 8: to continue to work together. So it's like, hey, five 583 00:27:10,640 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 8: or six of us, we're doing well individually. I was 584 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 8: watching Mike Sisseski. He was saying, if you punt somebody 585 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 8: like this, it doesn't hurt, right, you'll wind up hurting yourself. 586 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 8: But if you punt somebody like this with five fingers 587 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:23,919 Speaker 8: put together, you're gonna have more of an impact. So 588 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 8: just to think about the amount of impact that we 589 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 8: can have in these communities if we can come together 590 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 8: and form these bigger organizations. 591 00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: But if you're looking to get started. 592 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 8: Obviously there's a totally different process than that we're fifteen 593 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:36,000 Speaker 8: years in. 594 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: In Maryland. 595 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,919 Speaker 8: You gotta go through like Maryland Medicaid, you gotta be 596 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 8: a Medicaid provider. You gotta go through CARF get your 597 00:27:43,400 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 8: car for accreditation. Like this isn't just something why I 598 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 8: wake up and say stuff like that. Right with Big 599 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 8: Brother program I want to work with adults. 600 00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 3: I want to you know, they have YMCAs for stuff 601 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:50,679 Speaker 3: like that. 602 00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,159 Speaker 8: Right with Big Brother programs, this is we're treating people's 603 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 8: mental health. So this is a very serious thing, you know. 604 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,480 Speaker 8: I see some programs people are just like, you know, 605 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 8: playing basketball, and if there's a treatment model associated with that, 606 00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 8: then that's perfect, you know. But some people are just 607 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 8: doing other things that aren't really clinically sound. So when 608 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:10,919 Speaker 8: people are getting into this, you have to first make 609 00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 8: sure that you're getting into this from a clinically sound 610 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:16,400 Speaker 8: perspective as it relates the startup costs. I mean, if 611 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 8: you're starting to PERRP, if you're starting a clinic, or 612 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:19,640 Speaker 8: you're starting to sub program. 613 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 3: I'll give Jeanine her credit. This had I had BTSD. 614 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 8: We were mentoring program, we were trying to get into 615 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:29,000 Speaker 8: becoming a medicaid provider and provider and more services. And 616 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,640 Speaker 8: I had contracts that were I'm paying me. I wasn't 617 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 8: keeping proper ar reports and stuff like this. I just 618 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,600 Speaker 8: need they owe me money. And I needed to expand 619 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 8: into this healthcare thing and they needed, you know, I 620 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 8: think I needed I can't remember how much. But Janine 621 00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 8: look with data, her full one K. 622 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 3: It's beautiful. She looked with data. I almost got joke 623 00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 3: up now thinking about it. But she looked with data. 624 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,480 Speaker 3: Her full one K gave me eleven thousand dollars. And 625 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 3: she was like, yo, your. 626 00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 9: Parents don't notice she's just announced it to the world. 627 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 9: You say, what, my parents don't know that? 628 00:28:58,800 --> 00:29:04,479 Speaker 3: Oh, well they should be happy it's been replenished. 629 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,840 Speaker 8: So she she was like one of my first maybe 630 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 8: only investor, you know, and and bt s T she 631 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 8: invested eleven grand got hor and this was within months 632 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 8: of dating. 633 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: So you know, I was we. 634 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 9: Were married married, yes, I don't know that. 635 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 8: It might well we weren't married, but and she was 636 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 8: at her job. 637 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 5: She was like, yo, listen, that's a big difference between 638 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,720 Speaker 5: months and dating, and. 639 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 3: Had looking like tenderless swindler, like I just finished. 640 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 6: You two days is all it took. 641 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 3: Yes, by the way, that's a new line. 642 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 6: Yes, they really loved me. 643 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 5: If you really really loved me, that for me, real 644 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 5: quick show, that's. 645 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 2: Not what happened. 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And then when we decided to 686 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 8: advance to a clinic, you know, that was a whole 687 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 8: different story about how that needed to go. But you know, 688 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 8: I would say you can get in it pretty reasonably, 689 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 8: you know, fifty thousand dollars or less, you know, depending 690 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 8: on the size of your program, how robust you're trying 691 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 8: to be or whatever. 692 00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 3: You know, I would say that. But outside of that, 693 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 3: one thing. 694 00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 8: I would like for people to understand is that, you know, 695 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 8: it's good to use our own money, but if we 696 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:26,800 Speaker 8: can use other people money, that is excellent. So if 697 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 8: you can build lines of credit, work a great banking 698 00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 8: relationship with someone so that you can kind of expedite 699 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 8: that growth, because for years, we got our first line 700 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 8: of credit in twenty twenty in the middle of a pandemic. 701 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,680 Speaker 8: I still don't know how we got a line of credit. 702 00:32:41,720 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: In the pandemic. 703 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,600 Speaker 8: Well, actually I do know, because they changed healthcare providers 704 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,280 Speaker 8: and they owed us a crap a lot of money. 705 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 8: So we finally had an AR report. But there was months. 706 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 8: I mean when she had our son, we were growing 707 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 8: our program. Another company tried to take us out, and 708 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,320 Speaker 8: so we had to like start another office and another 709 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,640 Speaker 8: office and we had to come on Jada join and 710 00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 8: we literally went months without being paid. Like we made 711 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,960 Speaker 8: this total investment into the program. We drained our complete savings. 712 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,400 Speaker 8: I mean, we were like getting there, we were getting 713 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,000 Speaker 8: it was about to get bad, right, and she was thinking, like, Yo, 714 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,360 Speaker 8: this might not have been the greatest decision. 715 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: Now, but we went months without being paid. 716 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 8: But if we had a line of credit, we could 717 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 8: have still grow and not have to worry about not 718 00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 8: paying ourselves. So if the facyt it is initially working 719 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:37,800 Speaker 8: capital and stuff like that, the better it is initially. 720 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 6: That she means having flashbacks. 721 00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 4: So I mean, you went from one employee and we 722 00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 4: talked about not becoming a. 723 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,360 Speaker 6: Slave to the business at three hundred employees. What's that? 724 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 4: I mean, especially in our community, the retention process, right, 725 00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:54,520 Speaker 4: we've talked about this, trying to hire the right people 726 00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 4: and trying to give back to the community and making 727 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,160 Speaker 4: sure that you know, we're giving opportunities to people that 728 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 4: look like us. What what is that like for your business? 729 00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 4: Obviously going from one to three hundred, the retention process, it. 730 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 9: Depends on which business we're speaking of, right, because what 731 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,360 Speaker 9: day to day looks like at BTSD is completely different 732 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,760 Speaker 9: than what the data looks like at Selfish Beauty. Our clients, 733 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 9: not our clients, I'm sorry, our employees have We try 734 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 9: to keep happy back by their commission honestly, their commission 735 00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:30,080 Speaker 9: base and they are technically ten ninety nine employees, so 736 00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 9: they like to feel like they're self employed and they're 737 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,640 Speaker 9: not employees of us, when at the end of the day, 738 00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:40,400 Speaker 9: they're still under the same umbrella. But we we always 739 00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 9: treat everyone with respect. 740 00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:42,760 Speaker 2: We try to be really nice. 741 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 9: We know that the field that we're in, which is 742 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:47,840 Speaker 9: the beauty industry, you could go anywhere, you can work anywhere, 743 00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 9: you could go to a suite, you could leave us 744 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 9: in any moment, So we try to create more of 745 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:52,640 Speaker 9: a family culture. 746 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 2: We are all a big family. 747 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,359 Speaker 9: We look out for each other and we know that yeah, 748 00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 9: we could go anywhere. 749 00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 2: Else, but we're happy here. 750 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 9: That's kind of the culture that we create a selfish 751 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,120 Speaker 9: but BTSD, I guess it's similar. 752 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,880 Speaker 8: Why we even say its selfish is it's it's different, 753 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 8: it's it's tough. Still, retention is tough because while the pandemic, 754 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,359 Speaker 8: you know, it put a lot of people out of work, 755 00:35:14,680 --> 00:35:17,280 Speaker 8: but it also motivated and created a bunch of entrepreneurs 756 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:19,719 Speaker 8: at the same time, right, and definitely a lot of 757 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 8: work from home people. It's hard to get people to 758 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 8: come in office of retention. You got to be flexible 759 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 8: first of all, right, because some people just don't want 760 00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:29,239 Speaker 8: to come back in. But that but in that entrepreneurship 761 00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,600 Speaker 8: meant people like, hey, I can be an entrepreneur. Taking 762 00:35:31,640 --> 00:35:34,600 Speaker 8: this and exaggerated it right, people like, hey, I can 763 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 8: be an entrepreneur, I could be a nail tech. I 764 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,400 Speaker 8: can go open my own suite. You can, but can 765 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 8: you generate your own referrals as well? Because what you 766 00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:43,879 Speaker 8: try to do is take our clients and go open 767 00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,120 Speaker 8: your own that's not true entrepreneurship in this in this. 768 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: Case, and then they put CEO in front of it 769 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 2: there exactly. 770 00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 8: So retention is hard, especially when people have all of 771 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,879 Speaker 8: these options, which is great. Optionality is great entrepreneurship is great, 772 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 8: Like we're just preaching like, hey, you don't might not 773 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 8: want to be a slave to that job, right, but 774 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 8: it also creates a vulnerability in the market of like 775 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 8: hiring and maintaining people. So what you have to do, 776 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:09,000 Speaker 8: like she was saying, is create a great environment where 777 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 8: people feel valued, they feel respected, and that one that 778 00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,360 Speaker 8: they feel compensated appropriately for their job. But they also 779 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,359 Speaker 8: believe in the mission in what you're doing. 780 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:17,640 Speaker 3: Right. 781 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 8: So a lot of the staff we have, they will 782 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,799 Speaker 8: run through a wall for BTSD or even black Swan, right, 783 00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 8: So they believe that the black Swan we had people, 784 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 8: you know, we never black Swan was set up where 785 00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:32,960 Speaker 8: it was just hey for everybody, right, and it was urban, 786 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 8: but it was for everybody. I guess people thought. 787 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: Black Swan meant black black Swan. 788 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 8: Right, So they're like, yo, everybody that we hired was 789 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,200 Speaker 8: all black, right, I mean all shades of black, all 790 00:36:42,239 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 8: styles of black, everything, right, and so but after but 791 00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,960 Speaker 8: they what they believe the reason why that was is 792 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 8: because they believe, like yo, this is a black owned 793 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 8: restaurant in Harbor East and body in the culture. It's elevated. 794 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 8: It's still sophisticated. I want to be a part of that. 795 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,759 Speaker 8: People like man, there's three beautiful women that are running 796 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:04,560 Speaker 8: Selfish Beauty. They're cool, they're business women, they are successful. 797 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 8: I want to be a part of that. I want 798 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 8: to be in that environment. And the same thing with 799 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 8: BTS today. Believe in the work that we're doing and 800 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 8: the commitment that we have to these communities, and they 801 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:13,760 Speaker 8: really want to be a part of that as well. 802 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 8: But I would say, you got to stay flexible and 803 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 8: create these work environments. 804 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 3: Okay, we know that that's the threat. 805 00:37:19,840 --> 00:37:21,799 Speaker 8: So how do we create these work environments that make 806 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 8: people feel as independent as possible, but still provide the 807 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:26,480 Speaker 8: god rails and the. 808 00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,920 Speaker 3: Support selfish institution. 809 00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 5: So I want to talk about Selfish completely different business 810 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 5: from mental health space where you're in the beauty spa 811 00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,920 Speaker 5: event space. Right, So how does that idea come about? 812 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:51,760 Speaker 5: And was there any hesitation in doing too many different 813 00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,600 Speaker 5: things at one time? 814 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 9: So let me start by I guess reverse engineering this. 815 00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 9: Before I left my my job and went to BTST, 816 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,080 Speaker 9: I had done a multitude of things. I had worked 817 00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 9: in health care for the health insurance company. Then I 818 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,759 Speaker 9: left that and went to Social Security. I did work 819 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:11,640 Speaker 9: at best Buy as well. 820 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:14,160 Speaker 2: Then I want to I want to. 821 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 3: Shout out for the best lives. 822 00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,120 Speaker 8: She was working at the at the at the healthcare company, 823 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,879 Speaker 8: at best Buy and getting a graduate degree and being 824 00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 8: pregnant at the same time. 825 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I did all the same time. 826 00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,560 Speaker 3: Thank out the. 827 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:26,360 Speaker 6: Reward points for that. 828 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 3: And you made a cash out of for one K. 829 00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 4: What are sources and income? 830 00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:39,480 Speaker 9: I'm like, god us, but you talk about climbing the ladder. 831 00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: That was literally the definition of climbing the ladder. 832 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,000 Speaker 9: I was just doing whatever I could to get whatever 833 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,719 Speaker 9: experience I could, and at the time, honestly, when I 834 00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 9: was working for Blue Crossman Shield, they were paying for 835 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,319 Speaker 9: me to be in grad school, so it all just 836 00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 9: made sense. So Nita to say, I picked up a 837 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,760 Speaker 9: lot of skill sets in each one of those jobs 838 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 9: that I needed to further me on where I was 839 00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,000 Speaker 9: going to ultimately end up. But I had no idea. 840 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,200 Speaker 9: I was just doing what I thought was best. So 841 00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 9: then you fast forward to me leaving Social Security and 842 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,960 Speaker 9: coming on to BTSD Well, the only reason why I 843 00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,320 Speaker 9: knew how to do HR and human resources things was 844 00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:13,880 Speaker 9: because when I worked at care first, I was in marketing, 845 00:39:14,080 --> 00:39:15,960 Speaker 9: but they also had me doing a lot of data 846 00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:20,120 Speaker 9: entry things with people's information, and I kind of learned 847 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,080 Speaker 9: how to process it. So needless to say, I kind 848 00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 9: of just picked up all in. I continue to just 849 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:28,680 Speaker 9: add from the different careers that I had, and I 850 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 9: continue to just add it to my resume. So now 851 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,880 Speaker 9: I'm at BTST, I'm doing HR and clearly, like he said, 852 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,960 Speaker 9: you can't be the owner's wife and BEHR. And then 853 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,480 Speaker 9: as we were growing, it was just too many employees 854 00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 9: for me to honestly handle. So once I had our 855 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 9: second son, I just kind of took some time off, 856 00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 9: and during that time off, I was able to kind 857 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,919 Speaker 9: of like develop my own ideas and identity and things 858 00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 9: that I really liked for myself, and I realized that 859 00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 9: beauty was one of them. So I kind of reached 860 00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 9: out to two of my friends and the three of 861 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 9: us agreed that there was a need for more of 862 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:10,640 Speaker 9: the spot salon feel. A lot of people were going 863 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 9: to sweets and that just wasn't what we grew up knowing, right, Like, 864 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,200 Speaker 9: we wanted a one stop shot where you could come 865 00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 9: and get your nails done, get your lashes done, get 866 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,200 Speaker 9: a facial, get your hair done. You could do it 867 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:22,520 Speaker 9: all and in the same spot, but enjoy it while 868 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:24,200 Speaker 9: you were there. You can have a drink, you can 869 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 9: do your work, you can literally make a day of it. 870 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 2: And it's beautiful. Yes it has art installations and it's 871 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:32,440 Speaker 2: a beautiful place. She comes to come see it. 872 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:36,839 Speaker 9: But that was the actual main motivating driving force behind it, 873 00:40:37,080 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 9: like wanting to create a place that we personally would 874 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,959 Speaker 9: have wanted to go to. And as far as knowing 875 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,800 Speaker 9: if we could do it, we had adults. 876 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,280 Speaker 2: We were definitely nervous. We were scared. 877 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 9: We don't provide services at all, neither one of us, 878 00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 9: none of us. Like we don't do hair, we don't 879 00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 9: do it, nail, nothing. So it definitely was a matter 880 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 9: of encouraging people to believe enough in us to work 881 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 9: for us, and that probably was the most difficult part, 882 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,360 Speaker 9: but they did and then once we hit the ground running, 883 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 9: it kind of was a go from there. Now we 884 00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 9: had a hiccup because we had only been open for 885 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 9: three months in COVID hit so then we had to close, 886 00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 9: But it ended up being a blessing for us because 887 00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,440 Speaker 9: it gave us a chance to figure out our pivots, 888 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 9: things that may have not worked the first three months 889 00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 9: we were open or recalibrate and figure it out. 890 00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 2: That's a change. 891 00:41:23,719 --> 00:41:26,120 Speaker 9: Now we had six months to sit back and recalibrate 892 00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:28,279 Speaker 9: and figure it out. So then we opened up. And 893 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,480 Speaker 9: when we, I mean we reopened. And when we reopened, 894 00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 9: we had zero staff. We had lost everyone because they 895 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:36,120 Speaker 9: got PPP loans and they were doing nails and god 896 00:41:36,200 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 9: knows where at this point, and so we had to 897 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:42,120 Speaker 9: start all over again. But it just gave us more 898 00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,920 Speaker 9: grind and grit and we've kind. 899 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:44,479 Speaker 2: Of figured it out. 900 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 4: Chris, as I'm listening to the story of Selfish, I 901 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:50,319 Speaker 4: wrote down the quote, not only do we treat the exterior, 902 00:41:50,360 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 4: but we feed your interior. And when I hear that, 903 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 4: I think mental health. Right, it's self care, like that's 904 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:59,479 Speaker 4: part of mental health. And so as the ideas coming 905 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 4: about seeing it and you start the business, are you 906 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,880 Speaker 4: looking at this like this is another value add inside 907 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 4: of the first system that I created. 908 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 8: Yeah, so I thought that investing in that business would 909 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,440 Speaker 8: be cheaper than her continue to get these services a 910 00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:12,920 Speaker 8: la carte elsewhere. 911 00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:16,320 Speaker 3: But it really wasn't. 912 00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 8: But no, so Selfish, like we were they were thinking 913 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 8: about the name. It was like selfish and I was, 914 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:23,480 Speaker 8: we were like selfish. It was like, yo, that's perfect, 915 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 8: like because you need to own that. It's okay to 916 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 8: be selfish. That's one of the taglines, like it's okay 917 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 8: like we women sometimes sacrifice themselves to give to everybody else. 918 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,400 Speaker 8: They put their mask on last on the plane and 919 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 8: everything else like that, and never make time for themselves. 920 00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 3: So it's like, it's okay to be selfish. 921 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:42,560 Speaker 8: And then so while they were doing it, I'm like, 922 00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 8: we should add a mental health component to this because 923 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,640 Speaker 8: we have this lounge and selfish. So we started getting 924 00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 8: mental health professionals who did like something Tuesdays. 925 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:54,839 Speaker 2: It's called self care. 926 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 3: I don't know, it was on a Tuesday. Yeah, and 927 00:42:59,239 --> 00:42:59,960 Speaker 3: people would come in. 928 00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,480 Speaker 8: When these women who came for all of this beauty stuff, 929 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,319 Speaker 8: it was like, yes, you're looking good on the outside, 930 00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 8: but how do we also treat that inside as well? 931 00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 8: And so people will come to these different panels and 932 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,839 Speaker 8: just hit these conversations and just leave fuller, you know, 933 00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:15,000 Speaker 8: inside and outside. 934 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 5: So so what's the stations all through that to have 935 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,719 Speaker 5: a chain of locations all throughout you know America? Like, 936 00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:27,799 Speaker 5: what's your vision for that? 937 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 9: Honestly, we would love to have more, and that is 938 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:35,200 Speaker 9: the goal to open more in different locations in different states. 939 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:39,600 Speaker 2: But employing staffing is hard, It really is hard. 940 00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:43,560 Speaker 9: And so while we're here and in Baltimore and we 941 00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,680 Speaker 9: have a good thing going, we're kind of just trying 942 00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 9: to put all of our focus and emphasis into that one. 943 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,520 Speaker 9: And at some point we'll open another location another state, 944 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:53,839 Speaker 9: but when we feel like the time is right and 945 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 9: when we feel like we have found the staff that 946 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,000 Speaker 9: we can hire, because client tele isn't really our issue, 947 00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,799 Speaker 9: it's making sure that we have technicians that can serve 948 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 9: as the clients. 949 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,840 Speaker 8: You were going to say something, well to your point, 950 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,360 Speaker 8: you asked, how do you know when you're ready to scale? 951 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 3: Right? 952 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,240 Speaker 8: You got to make sure you have those operating systems 953 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,680 Speaker 8: in place first, Right, So if we know, hey, we're 954 00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:17,359 Speaker 8: a little deficient in this area, our ordering is this, 955 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 8: or our pay rates to this, or our turnover is this, 956 00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,640 Speaker 8: we might not be ready to scale yet because we 957 00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:25,520 Speaker 8: got to get this one together. Like people love black 958 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 8: Swall and they were like, hey, you guys need to 959 00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:27,759 Speaker 8: take black Swall somewhere else. 960 00:44:27,840 --> 00:44:29,439 Speaker 3: I'm like, we're probably. 961 00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:31,560 Speaker 8: About three months out right now of where we need 962 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 8: to be finalizing our systems, looking at our financial reports, 963 00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:37,520 Speaker 8: all of that other stuff, getting our labor costs down. 964 00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:38,520 Speaker 3: To be able to scale. 965 00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,239 Speaker 8: So, I think, to Jenning's point, once they continue to 966 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 8: tighten those screws, because people just want to run, and 967 00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:46,080 Speaker 8: Instagram make people want to run because they want to 968 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 8: be seen and give the appearance that they're doing something. 969 00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:52,120 Speaker 8: But you need to make sure that that you have 970 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 8: this foundation and that you have the footings, not just 971 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 8: the foundation, because the footings go below the foundation. That 972 00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:01,239 Speaker 8: you have these footings in place allow you to build this, 973 00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,320 Speaker 8: you know, this this high rise that you're attempting to build. 974 00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:06,279 Speaker 3: So who's rue of the day to day operations of 975 00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 3: the SWA Me, that's a lie. 976 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,800 Speaker 9: I don't even know the last time he has stepped 977 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:14,600 Speaker 9: foot in the SPA. Actually, the three of us flit 978 00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 9: everything evenly, but anything as far as their life more 979 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,960 Speaker 9: hr compliance, anything as far as they're licensing or just 980 00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:24,279 Speaker 9: managing the people right. 981 00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: And then my partner Kelly is the money girl. 982 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,359 Speaker 9: She handles all of our bookkeeping and the pay well 983 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 9: I do payroll, but she had like the register and 984 00:45:33,600 --> 00:45:37,000 Speaker 9: she also does a lot of our marketing. And then Keisha, 985 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 9: who is our third partner does like systems, she does ordering, 986 00:45:40,640 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 9: she does our booking system, anything that's like our computer 987 00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 9: data and. 988 00:45:45,400 --> 00:45:46,439 Speaker 2: Everything else needs to be done. 989 00:45:46,520 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 9: But the three of us have three very different skill 990 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,719 Speaker 9: sets and it makes one collective perfect person. Like if 991 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 9: you could put the three of us into one person, we. 992 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,040 Speaker 6: Would be vultual. 993 00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,880 Speaker 8: I think that's important what she's saying, and for everybody 994 00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 8: out there is you can't be afraid of partnerships. 995 00:46:01,719 --> 00:46:01,879 Speaker 3: Right. 996 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,120 Speaker 8: A lot of people want to do it all on 997 00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 8: their own, or they get into partnerships, but the wrong partnerships. 998 00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 8: You got to get into partnerships where there's where you 999 00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 8: guys benefit each other, where you're the ying to the 1000 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:14,000 Speaker 8: other person's yang, right, where hey, I might be good 1001 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:17,440 Speaker 8: at marketing, but somebody is better at operation, or this 1002 00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 8: person can do this and they can do this because 1003 00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 8: the goal in partnership, whether it's marriage or anything else, 1004 00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 8: is to lighten each other load. Right, to make that 1005 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,560 Speaker 8: so I can benefit from your skill set, you can 1006 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:28,840 Speaker 8: benefit from my skill set, and you don't have to 1007 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 8: do everything. And when stuff hit the fan, we can 1008 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,520 Speaker 8: do a capital raise together and it's not all coming 1009 00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,239 Speaker 8: out of my pocket. Right, So partnership you shaying the highs, 1010 00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,040 Speaker 8: you saying the loads, but you also work to reduce 1011 00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:40,680 Speaker 8: the burden. So partnership is a great thing. 1012 00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 4: Speaking of partnership and being that you're inside of the 1013 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,319 Speaker 4: mental health space with the with the SPA selfish and 1014 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,479 Speaker 4: obviously with BTST, how do you ensure yours right because 1015 00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,520 Speaker 4: you're adding a lot to your plate. There's parents, there's 1016 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:58,200 Speaker 4: obviously the relationship that you have as a couple. How 1017 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,240 Speaker 4: do you ensure that you're making sure that your mental 1018 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,640 Speaker 4: health is where it needs to be so that you 1019 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 4: can function that. 1020 00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:05,239 Speaker 2: All over therapy. 1021 00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,319 Speaker 9: We we've been in therapy for god knows what ten 1022 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 9: years and it's and it's not always because there's a 1023 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 9: problem we have, we lessen the problems or don't, or 1024 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,399 Speaker 9: we be and together. And it's to ensure that we 1025 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 9: lessen the problems or don't or we run into its 1026 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,759 Speaker 9: least amount of problems as we can, because without it, 1027 00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 9: it's us trying to figure it out on our own. 1028 00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:27,040 Speaker 9: And to add, he's a licensed therapist and he tries 1029 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,160 Speaker 9: to do the therapy on me and it doesn't work. 1030 00:47:29,520 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 2: It doesn't work. 1031 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,880 Speaker 8: A compliant client. It's not my skill set. It's just 1032 00:47:33,960 --> 00:47:38,399 Speaker 8: that you're a tough client for anybody. But and and 1033 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 8: it's hard. And when you're a therapist, you're not It's 1034 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,040 Speaker 8: it's certain code of ethics. You're not supposed to like 1035 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:46,439 Speaker 8: sleep with the person that you're doing therapy with. 1036 00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 3: So you know, I kind of jack that up. 1037 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 8: But uh, but I would say, like she said, as 1038 00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:55,680 Speaker 8: a as a licensed therapist, one of the things they 1039 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,719 Speaker 8: tell you when you're in school is that before you 1040 00:47:57,760 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 8: do therapy, you need to sit in the chair of 1041 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 8: a client and make sure that you receive therapy so 1042 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:04,640 Speaker 8: that you understand the process and the vulnerability associated with it. 1043 00:48:04,880 --> 00:48:06,520 Speaker 8: But in addition to that, when I was talking about 1044 00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,040 Speaker 8: that balance, I'm run, run, run, run run. 1045 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:09,759 Speaker 3: Like at work, we. 1046 00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 8: Created this, this this program, this the way we evaluate opportunities. 1047 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:17,320 Speaker 3: Right. We call it like incubation and incubation stage. 1048 00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,040 Speaker 8: You can just think as much as you want, you 1049 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 8: can create as much as you want, and there's no limits. 1050 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 8: Janine used to limit me in my incubation stage, right, 1051 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,839 Speaker 8: So we're like, hey, you gotta let Chris think, right, 1052 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 8: and then you have operational stage. Operational stages when we 1053 00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 8: we we really work through the nuts and bolts of 1054 00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 8: these ideas. We try to bring them down and say, 1055 00:48:38,239 --> 00:48:40,239 Speaker 8: is this a real opportunity? What does this looked like? 1056 00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:41,760 Speaker 3: Is this a win? Is this a loss? 1057 00:48:41,760 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 8: How does this look And then if we decide to 1058 00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 8: go forward, so we will say no to it at 1059 00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,960 Speaker 8: that point, or we decide to go forward, and then 1060 00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:50,680 Speaker 8: we decide to go forward, it's called implementation. So then 1061 00:48:50,680 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 8: we implement in that idea and then we're gonna evaluation 1062 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 8: as the last stage, right, so then we're evaluating for 1063 00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 8: us to create this idea, for us to do that, 1064 00:48:59,239 --> 00:48:59,759 Speaker 8: what was the win? 1065 00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:02,799 Speaker 3: What did we lose for gaining that win? 1066 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:05,280 Speaker 8: Because even when you're winning, you're gaining you're losing something 1067 00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:07,719 Speaker 8: to do to do a big event or something we 1068 00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:09,200 Speaker 8: might have spent a lot of time, a lot of 1069 00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 8: money thing something they could have been doing. 1070 00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 3: Micro lose. We lost. 1071 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,680 Speaker 8: We took our marketing team off of this thing and 1072 00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 8: something they could have been doing micro marketing on because 1073 00:49:16,719 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 8: we're doing this macro marketing. 1074 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:22,719 Speaker 3: But I'm sorry, what was that going with that? 1075 00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:25,200 Speaker 2: We were talking about our mental health. 1076 00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:27,120 Speaker 3: And oh yes, so I like to run. 1077 00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 8: I'm in that incubation stage a lot, and where Janine 1078 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:34,200 Speaker 8: is like, Chris, I'm not signing up for another thing else. 1079 00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 8: Right now, we're trying to get this family in order. 1080 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,440 Speaker 8: We're trying to do that, and then you'll plan three 1081 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,839 Speaker 8: vacations for us to go on. But she's like, hey, 1082 00:49:39,840 --> 00:49:41,839 Speaker 8: we need to slow our life down, right. So it's 1083 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,600 Speaker 8: that yin and yang. I'm like running like, oh no, 1084 00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,439 Speaker 8: this would be a dope idea, this would be great, great, great, 1085 00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:47,520 Speaker 8: And she's like yeah, yeah, yeah, And I'm like, yo, 1086 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:49,759 Speaker 8: you're not handing me. No, you're really not listening, Like, Yo, 1087 00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:52,080 Speaker 8: this is great, come on, let's go. Why aren't you excited? 1088 00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:55,120 Speaker 8: Because she's like, because I see you getting burnt out. 1089 00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,280 Speaker 8: I see you getting overwhelmed. I see you getting frustrated. 1090 00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 8: I see you not being here. I see you know, 1091 00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 8: me having a this, I see all of these other things. 1092 00:50:02,280 --> 00:50:04,600 Speaker 8: I see the investment. I see all of this. So 1093 00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,480 Speaker 8: let's kind of balance this oude a little bit so 1094 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,919 Speaker 8: to help my mental health. Like that ying to the Yang, 1095 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 8: She's like, slow down, let's eat what's on our plate first, 1096 00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,799 Speaker 8: and then let's think about how to how we want 1097 00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 8: to move forward. 1098 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:15,400 Speaker 6: Stop it up with you. 1099 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:21,040 Speaker 3: So before we leave with the thing, I'll talk about 1100 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:21,920 Speaker 3: the restaurant. 1101 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:26,760 Speaker 5: So you go into the restaurant business, which is probably 1102 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,120 Speaker 5: the hardest business to be successful and extremely difficult. And 1103 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:33,880 Speaker 5: you already have all the other stuff that you're managing. 1104 00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:39,359 Speaker 5: What's the inspiration for opening a restaurant. 1105 00:50:39,600 --> 00:50:42,960 Speaker 8: So a part of these vacations that she picked there 1106 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 8: and all these random places throughout the world, and so 1107 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:48,359 Speaker 8: we would go across the country all over and get 1108 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,440 Speaker 8: these great dining experiences, right, and then we would come 1109 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 8: back to Baltimore on with energy like Yo, let's go, 1110 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:55,879 Speaker 8: let's keep this going. 1111 00:50:55,920 --> 00:50:57,640 Speaker 3: We just got home, let's go hit another restaurant. 1112 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,640 Speaker 8: And then the dining experience is what the donning scene 1113 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 8: wasn't what we were getting in other places. And Baltimore 1114 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,799 Speaker 8: has a great dining experience, is great food and everything else. 1115 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 3: But it wasn't that energy that. 1116 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:09,680 Speaker 8: I was like that or matting Dog, let's tell or 1117 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 8: I was getting that tow or somewhere else like that 1118 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 8: or matting Dog or something. Right, So it wasn't this 1119 00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 8: just this this metropolitan trendy energy right where music, fashion 1120 00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:21,040 Speaker 8: and food connected. 1121 00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 3: Right. 1122 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,120 Speaker 8: So I would just get frustrated. I'll be at restaurants. 1123 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 8: I'd be like jenin look at this light mixture. They 1124 00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:29,760 Speaker 8: could have did this, and it had been cooler listen 1125 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,320 Speaker 8: to this playlist if they'd have put if they'd put 1126 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:34,920 Speaker 8: you know, Shaka khan On, I guarantee you sales at 1127 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 8: the bar will go up by this percentage and everything else. 1128 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,320 Speaker 9: Can y'all imagine literally thinking you're going to dinner and 1129 00:51:40,360 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 9: this man is ripping this restaurant to shred. 1130 00:51:42,280 --> 00:51:43,480 Speaker 3: I literally went to one of the owners. 1131 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 8: I said, play this playlist and let me know off 1132 00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:46,880 Speaker 8: sales go up. 1133 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:49,960 Speaker 3: I said, I said, play this, play this, let me 1134 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:50,759 Speaker 3: off sales go up. 1135 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:53,359 Speaker 8: I guarantee you he ain't played that other playlist since 1136 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,799 Speaker 8: it was Charles and said trunk. And then so I 1137 00:51:56,920 --> 00:52:00,200 Speaker 8: just started connected with other restaurant tours and I'm just like, hey, 1138 00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:01,640 Speaker 8: why don't you guys do it like this? 1139 00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,760 Speaker 3: How do you do it like this? What's the passion? 1140 00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 3: How does this work? 1141 00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 8: So just putting myself in the in the in the 1142 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:10,759 Speaker 8: in the educational phase of meeting the people, understanding the 1143 00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:12,680 Speaker 8: field a little bit more before I was in there, 1144 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:15,920 Speaker 8: just preparing myself for the opportunity whenever I wanted it to. 1145 00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,120 Speaker 8: And then one of my buddies called me one day 1146 00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 8: and said, hey, Chris, this restaurant is going out of business. 1147 00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:23,200 Speaker 8: I think that we could do this. You can come 1148 00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 8: and decorate it however you want. You could have the 1149 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:28,440 Speaker 8: light fixture that you want and everything else, and you know, 1150 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,399 Speaker 8: I'll do the food. But then the pandemic happened, and 1151 00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:33,960 Speaker 8: he had other a few other investments that he of 1152 00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,120 Speaker 8: restaurants that he wanted to make sure. But it was 1153 00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 8: perfect because I was able to find our chef chefs 1154 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:40,880 Speaker 8: say on Bryce and have him if y'all y'all know, 1155 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 8: chef y'all got to make some noise for his land shops, 1156 00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:50,160 Speaker 8: thank you, and so you know, uh, we were able 1157 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:53,440 Speaker 8: to it. Just the opportunity. I was ready for the opportunity. 1158 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:56,120 Speaker 8: I had already talked to the people. I understood how 1159 00:52:56,160 --> 00:53:00,359 Speaker 8: this worked and everything else. But again I have my partners, right, 1160 00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,280 Speaker 8: So my partner Jada and Chris Chris was managing partner, 1161 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,480 Speaker 8: and who have like several years. And then you bring 1162 00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:11,400 Speaker 8: in Keisha and Jamil, who have like a different perspective 1163 00:53:11,440 --> 00:53:15,319 Speaker 8: and who will just like just have high level relationships 1164 00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:19,439 Speaker 8: or whatever. So we decided we were going to start 1165 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:21,319 Speaker 8: this restaurant. It was just you know, and we had 1166 00:53:21,360 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 8: prepared ourselves so I think just putting yourselves in those 1167 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,319 Speaker 8: runs before you're ready to be there. 1168 00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:26,680 Speaker 3: You know, you don't have to feel insecure. 1169 00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 8: Start learning us, start learning the field, doing your research 1170 00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:31,959 Speaker 8: and everything else like that. And so, like Janine said, 1171 00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,080 Speaker 8: Janine was very meticulous on the cocktail menu we set 1172 00:53:35,120 --> 00:53:37,080 Speaker 8: with chef. We went over the food, he said this. 1173 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 8: He was like, no, we're going to do it like this. 1174 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:41,360 Speaker 8: That's how do we bring these two together or whatever 1175 00:53:41,360 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 8: else like this, because chef cooks up here and I'm like, Chef, 1176 00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:46,239 Speaker 8: we have to bring the menu down here to make 1177 00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 8: sure that it's palatable and that it's consumable, and that 1178 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 8: people feel like they can eat there three four days 1179 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,719 Speaker 8: a week if they desired. And so we were able 1180 00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,800 Speaker 8: to create that and then we put the right management 1181 00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:57,200 Speaker 8: system team in place. But I won't sell you any 1182 00:53:57,280 --> 00:53:59,120 Speaker 8: dreams and say, hey, we just turned it over to 1183 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 8: the management team. Three months after that, we lost our 1184 00:54:01,440 --> 00:54:05,160 Speaker 8: GM and the first night in the restaurant, Jeanne, me 1185 00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 8: and Jeannine both trying to touch tables run help with reservations. 1186 00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:10,799 Speaker 8: It was it was a mad house because I mean 1187 00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:13,840 Speaker 8: it sold out in the first thirty minutes. For three months, 1188 00:54:14,080 --> 00:54:16,719 Speaker 8: it was just a mad house. We had to turn 1189 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,520 Speaker 8: away the owner, the Washington Nationals. 1190 00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,040 Speaker 3: It was so bad. 1191 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:22,120 Speaker 5: But why why was it so successful so early? 1192 00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:24,480 Speaker 2: I think marketing, marketing. 1193 00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:27,480 Speaker 8: It was that understanding of human behavior and marketing. Our 1194 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 8: rollout was incredible. We sent black boxes with black champagne, flutes, champagne, 1195 00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:36,400 Speaker 8: an invitation, say you're invited to this black swan. I 1196 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,520 Speaker 8: mean we had Baltimore's Who's who there, people came from 1197 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 8: out of town and we had. 1198 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 2: What three grand opening events? 1199 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:44,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we had several grand opening events. 1200 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:47,600 Speaker 8: Like the anticipation was there, and we started a lot 1201 00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 8: of businesses not out of trying to fill avoid right. 1202 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:53,000 Speaker 8: He was asking me for like, how do you why 1203 00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:55,200 Speaker 8: do you start these business It's like healthcare. 1204 00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:56,879 Speaker 3: We wanted to fill avoid in a healthcare thing. 1205 00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:02,000 Speaker 8: Beauty wanted to creative void where and where black people 1206 00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:04,080 Speaker 8: all of this, and then restaurant where and they could 1207 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,359 Speaker 8: see technicians that look like them and it's not all 1208 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:08,960 Speaker 8: of this And in restaurant there was nobody providing that 1209 00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:11,919 Speaker 8: style of dining, right, So I think that people were 1210 00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:14,440 Speaker 8: just so excited to have a style of dining like 1211 00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:16,960 Speaker 8: this that was also sophisticated. 1212 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:20,239 Speaker 3: And everybody just signed up Man to come out and 1213 00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:21,640 Speaker 3: the food, and the food is amazing. 1214 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,359 Speaker 9: But I don't want to make it seem like it 1215 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:27,080 Speaker 9: was all uniforns and rainbows because he drags me into 1216 00:55:27,120 --> 00:55:30,920 Speaker 9: the restaurant business, kicking and screaming. I wanted no parts 1217 00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,160 Speaker 9: of opening a restaurant. But you know, as the ball 1218 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,440 Speaker 9: got rolling, I started really like saying that there was 1219 00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 9: a vision for this and it was okay, and there 1220 00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:41,879 Speaker 9: was a need and it was gonna be good, and 1221 00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 9: it turned out to be amazing. But I didn't see 1222 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:45,799 Speaker 9: the vision at first. 1223 00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:46,919 Speaker 3: For that one, it's a risk. 1224 00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,520 Speaker 2: My father, it was a huge risk. 1225 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:50,680 Speaker 8: My father used to own a West Side carry out 1226 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:53,279 Speaker 8: and I saw the lows of this man. I saw 1227 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,759 Speaker 8: him and his partner's fighting. He's making food, they're not 1228 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:59,560 Speaker 8: using proper purveyors and all that other stuff. They're going 1229 00:55:59,560 --> 00:56:02,680 Speaker 8: to the grosscery store and everything. So I've seen the 1230 00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,080 Speaker 8: ills of it, man, And honestly, we've just been blessed. 1231 00:56:06,080 --> 00:56:06,279 Speaker 6: Man. 1232 00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 8: We've been blessed by the support of everybody that comes out. 1233 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 8: All the time people just advocate, people speak about Black Swan. 1234 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:14,600 Speaker 3: They put us in the RUMs. 1235 00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:16,800 Speaker 8: We catered the Preakness, We were one of the catas 1236 00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,200 Speaker 8: for the Preakness. They put us in the hospitality tents 1237 00:56:20,480 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 8: for all our like the very expensive tints of the 1238 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:27,280 Speaker 8: finish line. That's because somebody else was in a rum 1239 00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 8: and they put us in that room verbally right, and 1240 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,759 Speaker 8: they advocated that Salanda Robin, They like, hey, we need 1241 00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,239 Speaker 8: more representation of like us, and so we're going to 1242 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:37,759 Speaker 8: advocate and put you in that room. 1243 00:56:37,840 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 3: So I wish it's a community, man, it's not just us. 1244 00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 6: That's incredible. 1245 00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:45,240 Speaker 4: So the obvious question now is what are the growth 1246 00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:49,520 Speaker 4: goals for black Swan. I mean, are we figuring that guests. 1247 00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,719 Speaker 4: We got Harbor East, but maybe we expand some other places. 1248 00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 8: Yeah, so again it's outcrowd, right, So black Swan is 1249 00:56:55,600 --> 00:56:57,480 Speaker 8: one concept of outcrowd. So we want to take black 1250 00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,880 Speaker 8: Swan and DC Atlanta the concepts that we're opening, right, 1251 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,080 Speaker 8: I really want to see in LA. But then we 1252 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 8: have other concepts that we're opening, right. We're under some 1253 00:57:05,800 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 8: were negotiating some lois right now to bring a concept 1254 00:57:09,400 --> 00:57:10,759 Speaker 8: to market by the end of the year. 1255 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:12,640 Speaker 3: We have a few others. 1256 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,759 Speaker 8: So just continue to just you don't make you know, 1257 00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 8: you don't do just phenomenally great in one restaurant, right, 1258 00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,800 Speaker 8: you need to have scale to pennies need to add 1259 00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,120 Speaker 8: up to make some dollars in restaurants, right, so you 1260 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:25,200 Speaker 8: need to have multiple of them. 1261 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,000 Speaker 3: But continue to use Black Swan as a vehicle. 1262 00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:30,720 Speaker 8: So many people come through there, and people for some 1263 00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:32,280 Speaker 8: reason they feel like if you know food and you 1264 00:57:32,280 --> 00:57:34,600 Speaker 8: can create environment, you must know great business. 1265 00:57:34,600 --> 00:57:36,560 Speaker 3: And I'm like, that's not most restaurants. 1266 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,080 Speaker 8: People, you know, like those restaurants go out of business 1267 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,240 Speaker 8: in six months and we just celebrated our two ye anniversares. 1268 00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 3: So it's a blessing. But literally, thinking. 1269 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:48,000 Speaker 8: It's a vehicle connect with people, build with people. I 1270 00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:51,160 Speaker 8: mean people from Ben Crump to just Jesse Jackson was 1271 00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:55,480 Speaker 8: there last week. Lamar comes through just everybody and anybody 1272 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:56,080 Speaker 8: that's in town. 1273 00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:56,400 Speaker 3: Now. 1274 00:57:57,480 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 8: I was about to say he's gonna come through to night, 1275 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:01,480 Speaker 8: but I was and say that. But there it is 1276 00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:03,800 Speaker 8: like now they have a place that they can go 1277 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,560 Speaker 8: and it feels like, hey, this is the energy, this 1278 00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:06,880 Speaker 8: is the vibe. 1279 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:11,560 Speaker 5: Well, Christian Jannine, you guys are amazing. Thank you for 1280 00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:13,600 Speaker 5: joining us. Make some noise. 1281 00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:18,040 Speaker 3: Can I say something before you close out? 1282 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:20,160 Speaker 8: I want to give you guys your flowers and give 1283 00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:23,280 Speaker 8: you guys your roses and say thank you for you guys, right, 1284 00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 8: shout out to Raven and Tony for putting us together 1285 00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 8: first of all, having a vision to be like, hey, 1286 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,560 Speaker 8: I need to connect people. We need to talk about 1287 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 8: wealth and our community in a real way. And you know, 1288 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:39,240 Speaker 8: we's so funny. We met last week at Essence where 1289 00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:40,400 Speaker 8: people are just sharing wealth. 1290 00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:41,480 Speaker 3: Man, it was just so great. 1291 00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:46,280 Speaker 8: But with you guys are doing, our communities haven't had 1292 00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:48,880 Speaker 8: access to you for a long time, Right, Like that 1293 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 8: exposure that we were talking about. When people know that 1294 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:53,800 Speaker 8: you can do something or see that someone can do 1295 00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:56,520 Speaker 8: something they like, it just becomes a lot brighter. What 1296 00:58:56,680 --> 00:58:59,439 Speaker 8: you guys are providing is that the ambitious dream, right. 1297 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,800 Speaker 8: But what you guys are providing is that is that 1298 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:05,040 Speaker 8: is the lens for that exposure. 1299 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:05,320 Speaker 3: Right. 1300 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:09,680 Speaker 8: You're sitting down with people who they never had access to, 1301 00:59:09,760 --> 00:59:13,640 Speaker 8: teaching policies and business ideas and concepts that they would 1302 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:16,439 Speaker 8: have never been able to go one. They're not teaching 1303 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:19,760 Speaker 8: them in publish our school systems. They're actually not teaching 1304 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:21,240 Speaker 8: some of this stuff in college because a lot of 1305 00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 8: this stuff is real work, real on the job experience 1306 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,840 Speaker 8: that helps you navigate these things. And you guys are 1307 00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:30,560 Speaker 8: bringing this to people's TV screen right now or computer 1308 00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:32,240 Speaker 8: screens or telephones. 1309 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,560 Speaker 3: And that is remarkable. 1310 00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:35,640 Speaker 8: Man. You're I don't think that you under I hope 1311 00:59:35,640 --> 00:59:38,440 Speaker 8: that you understand the level of impact that you're having 1312 00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:41,520 Speaker 8: in our communities. And that impact you might not see today, 1313 00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:44,600 Speaker 8: but somebody who might have thought that something was impossible, 1314 00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 8: they now have faith and have optimism because of that. 1315 00:59:47,640 --> 00:59:49,880 Speaker 8: So continue to do and invest, pass and you'll just 1316 00:59:49,960 --> 00:59:52,160 Speaker 8: continue to take it to another level. Continue to do 1317 00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:53,280 Speaker 8: the great work that you're doing. 1318 00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 3: Man. Our communities needed, honestly appreciate it. 1319 00:59:56,600 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 5: Thank you making some noise for this wonderful couple right here. 1320 01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:05,640 Speaker 1: An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child 1321 01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:09,440 Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. 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