1 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,280 Speaker 1: Ron Ananian, I don't think they're going in the right direction. 2 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,600 Speaker 1: Car manufacturers. I think they're going in the wrong direction. 3 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: The car Doctor, have they offered you any sort of uh, 4 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, quiet campaign, quiet resolution. Are they telling you 5 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: you have to put an engine in it? No, they 6 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: haven't offered anything. Welcome to the radio home of Ron 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: and Anian the Car Doctor. Since this is where car 8 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on 9 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, 10 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in. The garage doors 11 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: are open, but I am here to take your calls 12 00:00:43,880 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: at eight five six and now running. Oh is it 13 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: my turn to talk now? Thanks Karen. I appreciate the 14 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,959 Speaker 1: ability to jump in here. Hello, welcome Ron in any 15 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: of the car doctors. Karen's so well informed you. Let's 16 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: jump right in and get the garage doors on. Let's 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: go right to Frank and Delaware a sixteen Silverado and 18 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: an Oto Ranger. Frank, you're on, sir, How can I 19 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: help aw you? Good afternoon? Run uh I I just 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: want to let you know on the Silverado, I did 21 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:20,320 Speaker 1: get that service bulletin on the torque converter that you right, 22 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: this is the car that this is the truck that 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: chattered it had the rumble staff. Yes, sir, yes, and 24 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 1: I just wanted to thank you. I've got to print 25 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: it out and I'm looking at it now. That the 26 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: question on the two thousand two Ranger. Uh, some of 27 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:42,320 Speaker 1: last week I talked about an intermittent running on their 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 1: their ranger, and I have that same problem my mechanic 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: who it's taken care of his wife right now, but 30 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: I'm afraid to drive the truck because it uh, it 31 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: won't uh, it could leave me stranded. He thought it 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: was the computer, because I mean no more than the computer. 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: The uh it'll I can run and run with it 34 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 1: and then I'll just stop somewhere and then it will 35 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:14,639 Speaker 1: just prank and pranking like it's not getting fired to 36 00:02:14,720 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 1: the spark clubs or fuel or something, and it'll just 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: eventually die and then I, you know, come back in 38 00:02:22,040 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: an hour it's fires right up. I don't know what 39 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: well does it ever does it ever happen when he's 40 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:31,800 Speaker 1: when you can get it to him, or does it 41 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:35,880 Speaker 1: ever happen when he's looking at it? Now? Now I 42 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 1: can never get the timing uh to get it over there, 43 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: and I just never was able to coordinate that. If 44 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: um you got you got light switches in your house? Yeah, 45 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,519 Speaker 1: all right? If if the light bulb, it's really hard 46 00:02:54,560 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: to change because it's way up in the ceiling. Every 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: once in a while doesn't light. I mean, it's a 48 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 1: hard life bulb to change. You probably have to take 49 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:04,560 Speaker 1: the ceiling down to change it. All right? Would you 50 00:03:04,560 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: just would you just change the bulb or would you 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: try to diagnose it? I first try to get up. 52 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: Would you see? I try to diagnose it, But that's 53 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: just my nature. What engine is this three leader for leader? Um? 54 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: It's the I knew you were gonna ask me that. 55 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: It's the smaller six. It's the smaller six, So it's 56 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the three leader. Okay, yeah. Are you familiar with the 57 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:34,680 Speaker 1: sound when your truck um uh starts If you just 58 00:03:34,760 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 1: turn the key on, you know, the fuel pump all 59 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: buzz from the back. It'll it'll buzz for five seconds 60 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:43,080 Speaker 1: until it see his attack signal. If it doesn't see 61 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: a tax signal, the EU the EK relay shut shuts 62 00:03:46,320 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: off the UM fuel pump so it doesn't continue to run. 63 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: Are you familiar with that? Sound. No, no, I never 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,920 Speaker 1: paid attention, but I think i'll I'll listen a little 65 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 1: bit better. Well, here why, here's why it's here's why 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: it's important, even if you have to have somebody turn 67 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: the key on but don't start it and you're down 68 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: on your knees. Where at this age a lot of 69 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: US vehicle owners are praying, Um, you know you're listening 70 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 1: to the gas tank. You'll hear and you'll hear that 71 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 1: for three to five seconds. Okay. The reason why that's 72 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: so gosh darn important is if the fuel pump relays 73 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: working on a forward product, the EEK or the computer 74 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: relay is working. That tells me the PCM is awake, 75 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:35,200 Speaker 1: the PCM relays working, the ignition switches working, and the 76 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: fuel pump relays working. And the pump. Now, your problem 77 00:04:39,720 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: is it runs up unto a point where it starts, 78 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,560 Speaker 1: and then it doesn't start. It never dies once it's running. 79 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,000 Speaker 1: Right now, I've never had that issue until I shot 80 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: at all. Right, so you know what's getting lost? Okay, 81 00:04:56,320 --> 00:05:00,400 Speaker 1: truck's eighteen years old. Lots of bouncing and moving around. 82 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:03,080 Speaker 1: I would find the eeke and the fuel pump relay, 83 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: which I believe her in the power distribution box under 84 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: the hood on the left side, and I get out 85 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,479 Speaker 1: my little two ounce diagnostic bullpeen hammer that everybody wants 86 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: to buy from me, and I'll walk over to it 87 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 1: and I'll go, I just give it the least little 88 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: tap on the relay, and I'm not saying kill it, 89 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: but you know a lot of diagnostics are done with 90 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: that hammer if I can tap that just ever so slightly. 91 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 1: A screw driver handle works as a substitute, but it's 92 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: not as dramatic. And you know, you can just tap 93 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: that relay. If that relay can't withstand a tap and 94 00:05:38,040 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: it shuts off, that means that relay has a has 95 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: a weak magnetic field, and that relays a problem, and 96 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: that relay may not work every time, and you have 97 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: to think, you have to think about relays. Relays are 98 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 1: usually well they were. It's been a while since I've 99 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: changed anybody on the ford in the fuel pump. Back 100 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,680 Speaker 1: in the day, they were fifty bucks apiece on an 101 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 1: eighteen year old vehicle. Heck, that's maintenance. That's just a 102 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: normal occurrence. So um plus, it is kind of neat 103 00:06:01,560 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: when you can prove it's a bit when it's a 104 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: bad relay. You just tap it in front of the customer. 105 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: They think you're a genius. Look at us. Car shuts 106 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: off next Umm alhad you're gonna say something, Well, that's 107 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 1: the eek electronic engine control and fuel pump relay. You 108 00:06:17,080 --> 00:06:20,080 Speaker 1: know there there there's two relays in the power distribution box. 109 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: Ask your mechanic to check him out. Can you tap 110 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: them and get the vehicle to shut off stall? You know, 111 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:27,160 Speaker 1: you have to think of it like this. The reason 112 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: why the tap test is so important. You ever drive 113 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: over a bumpy road, ever hit a bunch of ever 114 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,560 Speaker 1: hit a bunch of potholes? Or is delaware? Have they 115 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 1: used all their road taxes properly and all the roads 116 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: are smooth and straight? Yeah, I'll I'll withhold all the 117 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: laughter I can hear everybody going through. So yeah, I mean, 118 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 1: if the relays can't take a beaten, they're bad. They've 119 00:06:53,680 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: got to withstand all kinds of shock and vibration and 120 00:06:56,360 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: roadload and pothole hits and and and so on. So 121 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that's it, but that's a It's a 122 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: good place to start sometimes because the other part of 123 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: this problem is you can't duplicate the condition where you can, 124 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: but you know where do you test? So when it 125 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: when it when it does not start, when it goes 126 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:19,240 Speaker 1: into that crank no start condition, train yourself, teach yourself. 127 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 1: Turn the key on, don't don't crank the vehicle. Try 128 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:25,239 Speaker 1: this as an experiment. Turn the key on, don't crank 129 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: the vehicle. You know what the check engine light looks like? Correct? Correct? Okay? 130 00:07:31,400 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: If you turn the key on, don't crank the vehicle. 131 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: Does the check engine light come on for up to 132 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: five seconds and then turn out? If it'll have to 133 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: double check that I haven't been in it in a while. Okay. 134 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: If it does that, that eek relay is when it's 135 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: also turning on the fuel pump relay for it's three 136 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: to five second turn on, it's also turning on the 137 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: check engine light. Once that ek relay cycles off, because 138 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: the computer cycles it off, the check engine light goes out. 139 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,840 Speaker 1: Point is if the vehicles sitting their key on after 140 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: goes into this crank no start, you don't see a 141 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: check engine light. The computer is not awake. Why isn't 142 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 1: the computer awake? Now, now that's not to say and 143 00:08:10,640 --> 00:08:12,520 Speaker 1: you have to be careful how you test this, okay, 144 00:08:12,560 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: because there's a time out sequence and every car is different. 145 00:08:15,400 --> 00:08:17,720 Speaker 1: Crank crank, crank, crank, crank, crank crank crank crank, car 146 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: doesn't start, Okay, turn the key off, turn the key 147 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,480 Speaker 1: right back on. Chances are the check engine light doesn't 148 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: come on. Then count to five, count to five or ten. 149 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: Practice when the car is working, so you know what 150 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,559 Speaker 1: known good looks like. All right, maybe maybe you've got 151 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: a five second time out. Maybe you've got a ten 152 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: second time out. But if it's if it's got a 153 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: five or a ten or a or a twenty two 154 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 1: second time out, whatever it is. If when you crank crank, crank, crank, crank, 155 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: and it doesn't start, and you turn it off and 156 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: count the twenty two seconds and turn the key back on, 157 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,440 Speaker 1: and it still doesn't start, and that check engine light's 158 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: not let Maybe the IGNITIONCE which is bad not turning 159 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: the Maybe the IGNITIONCE which is bad, not turning the 160 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:57,640 Speaker 1: PCM on, not powering up the relays. Maybe they're really 161 00:08:58,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: you've you've split the work it in half. Okay, because 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: I go back to I go back to that light 163 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 1: bulb in the ceiling in your house. All right. The 164 00:09:08,440 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: first the first thing I do is I go to 165 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: I'd go to the middle of the circuit instead of 166 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: changing the ball, but I probably look at the switch, 167 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: or maybe i'd go downstairs in the basement and check 168 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 1: the breaker. I'm lazy. I always go for the easy 169 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: thing first, but I test it. I don't replace it. 170 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: And that's my point. All right, sir, all right, you're 171 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: very welcome. You're very welcome. Frank, you'd be well down there, Delaware. Way. Uh. 172 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 1: That's our job, folks, that's what we have to do 173 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: as diagnosticians. And I consider all of you diagnosticians. If 174 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: you're listening to this show, you have an interest in 175 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: how things work. From a logical approach. There's no silver bullet, 176 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,199 Speaker 1: there's no magic fairy dust. Math doesn't lie. I love 177 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: that line from Hidden Figures, right, Math doesn't lie. There's 178 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: a reason why it does what it does. And now 179 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: you've just got to go out and prove it. Sometimes 180 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: it doesn't pay to prove it. Sometimes do you take 181 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: a poke and hope and I guess, yeah, sometimes you 182 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: do that. You're not gonna spend three hours diagnosing a part, 183 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 1: but you might spend twenty two minutes diagnosing a part. 184 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: And that's the difference. And that's how you gotta look 185 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: at it. Zero by the way, this hour. But by 186 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,960 Speaker 1: the way, yes, sir, I like the fact that you 187 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: have a ball peen hammer. We call them transmit or 188 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: adjustment tools. Yeah, that's what they are. Actually there their field, 189 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: their field, their field, sobriety testers, um and and you 190 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 1: know what, they also double as air talent adjustment tools. Yeah, 191 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 1: thank god your on remote. By the way, by the way, 192 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: to Tom, you're ready, It's it's just you. It's just 193 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: you and me listening, right, Yeah, maybe okay, Happy birthday 194 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: to Tom. Happy birthday to Tom. How old are you now? 195 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:52,319 Speaker 1: I'm Jack Benny's age. Really yes? Uh? Rumor has it 196 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: that you're now sixty one? Is that possible? It's entirely possible. 197 00:10:56,800 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: So let me ask you this. I'm trying to catch 198 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 1: up to you. Yeah, well you might, so let me 199 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 1: ask you this. If you were forty and in love 200 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 1: with a little girl that was ten, you can't write. 201 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:08,959 Speaker 1: You can't do that because it's right that you're three 202 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,000 Speaker 1: times as old as that little girl. So i'd be 203 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:14,080 Speaker 1: sitting on right, you're four times as old as that 204 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 1: little girl. So you wait five years. You're forty five, 205 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: she's fifteen. Now you're three times as old as that 206 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: little girl. Right, she waited another fifteen years. You're sixty, 207 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,440 Speaker 1: she's thirty. Now you're twice as old as that little girl. 208 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 1: When we go to break, I want you to think, 209 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:29,840 Speaker 1: how long do you have to wait for that little 210 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: girl to catch up? I'm Ron and aming the car doctor. 211 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: I'll be back right after this. He drives that way. 212 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: But when it comes to fixing cars, Ron has card 213 00:11:42,400 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 1: advice done right eight five five five zero nine nine 214 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,240 Speaker 1: zero zero. Here's Ron. Hey, let's get over to Larry 215 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: in Iowa and see what's going on. Larry. Welcome to 216 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,559 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, sir. How can I help? Hey? Ron, 217 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 1: thanks for taking my goal. Thank you. He'll appreciate that. 218 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: It's an old man and you have to say that 219 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: all the ladder. He can't hear, so good. Now, Um 220 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: if the mic, if the micro silent, it's retribution. So anyway, 221 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: what's going on Larry? Okay? So I called you a 222 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:13,319 Speaker 1: few weeks ago about um it's a two thousand eleven 223 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: GMC got the gas motor in it? Um so I 224 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: so I ran so I put the eighty five in 225 00:12:21,120 --> 00:12:23,760 Speaker 1: it rain lean, Um, I got that out of there. 226 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:27,199 Speaker 1: I put uh straight, uh not enough in all gas 227 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:33,680 Speaker 1: back in UM and I could not reacht the alcohol content. Okay, 228 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: so I have a launch and it reads it while 229 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,599 Speaker 1: I borrowed a it's a snap on. It's it's a 230 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: soulless edge snap on, and it does not even show 231 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: the alcohol content hit on the only I could not Okay, Yeah, 232 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,199 Speaker 1: I was gonna say not all scan tools have the ability. 233 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,679 Speaker 1: And there's the there's the you know this is this 234 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 1: is the case of you get what you pay for, 235 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,640 Speaker 1: UM get you get you get with your borrow So 236 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: your question, yeah, so so my question is, okay, so 237 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: the trucks are undefined. It runs perfect. I mean, you know, 238 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: I reset the fuel trans and did all that stuff. 239 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,839 Speaker 1: But how do how is there any other way besides 240 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 1: having a tech to to reset that alcohol content? I 241 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: don't know that. I can't say that I do that, 242 00:13:25,160 --> 00:13:28,319 Speaker 1: do that on a regular basis, um. And I'll tell 243 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: you what. Here's an example of And I know this 244 00:13:30,200 --> 00:13:31,960 Speaker 1: isn't the answer you want, but I'm gonna use it 245 00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: for a second. In that order Repair Order repairs a 246 00:13:34,960 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 1: regional problem with national consequences. Right, eight e eighty five 247 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,480 Speaker 1: isn't such a big deal here in the Northeast, but 248 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: out in Iowa, I'm sure it is. I'm sure there's 249 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 1: a lot more e eighty five fuels out there than 250 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:49,480 Speaker 1: there is here. So the question I've got is if 251 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 1: do we even know a tech too has the ability? 252 00:13:52,040 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: I want to know because you've got it displayed on 253 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: the dash right, there's a display saying that there's a 254 00:13:56,200 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: problem with the alcohol content or no, no, not even 255 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,319 Speaker 1: know because what happened. I just because, like you know, 256 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we have I just wanted to test it 257 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,360 Speaker 1: out because according to my game, it's supposed to be 258 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: eighty five. So um, it ran lean. It was running lean. 259 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,840 Speaker 1: That that's the engine code that I got. I never 260 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: got a thing about. Okay, So you put regular fuel 261 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: in it and now it's running normal. Now it's running normal, yeah, okay, 262 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: And there's no warnings on the dashboard nope, everything Yeah, 263 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: everything went back to normal. Okay, So you want to 264 00:14:31,480 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: reset what that the alcohol content? Because because right now 265 00:14:36,440 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 1: I'm running uh you know, uh gas with no f 266 00:14:39,960 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: and all in it. But I want to go back 267 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: to the running the ten percent, so um so, and 268 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: I wanted to be able to be able to read that, 269 00:14:49,880 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: to be able to adjust. What makes you what makes 270 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 1: you think you need to reset the alcohol content because 271 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: it won't move. It's stuck at points five. It does 272 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:07,520 Speaker 1: not move at all, because because according to because I 273 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 1: do have all data, because it says that if you 274 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: reset it, it should reset to three percent. I believe it. 275 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:16,720 Speaker 1: I think it's but I can't even get it to 276 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: reset with because I have a launch too, and I can. 277 00:15:23,160 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 1: So there's a there's a there is it? So there 278 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: is a display on the dash that shows you alcohol content? 279 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah on the scan tool. Yes, on the scan tool, yes, yes, No, 280 00:15:33,160 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: on the display on the dash, not on the so 281 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: you're looking at it on the scan tool. Yes, Okay, 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: what if you put it? What if you put eight 283 00:15:43,160 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: five back in it? What does it go to? And 284 00:15:47,120 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 1: it stays at that point five? It never goes above 285 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: point five? Correct? Correct? Well, doesn't make any sense? And yeah, 286 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: that's what that That makes absolutely no sense. Have you 287 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: put E eight five back in the truck? No? Not 288 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: since I have drained, Yeah, since I burned the other 289 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 1: one out. Now right, so let's listen to what I'm 290 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,080 Speaker 1: saying her, Bubby, don't don't get hung up on what 291 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: the scan tool is telling you, all right, don't don't 292 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:18,920 Speaker 1: get hung up on it. You know, maybe the scan tool. 293 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: Do you know how many scan tools I have during 294 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 1: the course of the week I find that the multiplicant 295 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: or the way that they convert the information is wrong. 296 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 1: Holy holy cow O. TC tools was noted for that 297 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: five six years ago where we had so many problems 298 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:38,000 Speaker 1: with them. They would they would, they would convert cool 299 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 1: attempt the card be running degrees. Uh, you know all 300 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 1: kinds of screwy issues like that. My question is if 301 00:16:45,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 1: you if you drain, if you run the regular fuel 302 00:16:48,480 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: out of the truck, you want to test the scan tool, 303 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: run the regular fuel out of the truck. Okay, putty, 304 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:59,520 Speaker 1: put put five gallons of E eighty five back in it. 305 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: Does this scan tool change its reading? All right? If 306 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 1: if because if I understand you right, your concern is 307 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: instead of point five, you expect to see point three. Yes, 308 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: you're you're splitting you're splitting hairs. Okay, if if so, so, 309 00:17:20,080 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: if you put e eighty five in it, does it 310 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:25,160 Speaker 1: go up accordingly to the to the volume of alcohol 311 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:30,680 Speaker 1: content that the eight five is. Does that make sense? Ye? Right? 312 00:17:30,800 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: Sometimes you gotta test the tool, alright, Sometimes you gotta verify, 313 00:17:34,920 --> 00:17:37,479 Speaker 1: prove the tool right or wrong. All right, If the 314 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: tool doesn't respond, if the truck with E eight five 315 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,720 Speaker 1: in it and the regular fuel is gone, if it 316 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 1: doesn't respond and go above the point five and there's 317 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 1: still no fault because if if there's there's a way 318 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: that the fuel level center, there's a there's an alcohol 319 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,520 Speaker 1: measurement done in the tank. If it doesn't respond with 320 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:59,119 Speaker 1: a fault code and a dash display warning, then I'm 321 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,439 Speaker 1: gonna tell you the scan tools cock eyed. And then 322 00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: you've got to find something besides that, besides the snap 323 00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 1: on that doesn't display it, and then find one that does. 324 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:08,960 Speaker 1: But I don't know that I'd worry about it. If 325 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 1: fuel trim is good zero plus or minus ten, heck, brother, 326 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: you're golden, and uh, you know, stick around. One day 327 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 1: we'll talk about the quality of fuel and all the 328 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: carbon deposit issues we see that causing. I don't know 329 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:23,240 Speaker 1: that I'd be so excited to put ethanol back in 330 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: it and try and save some dollars, because, uh, the 331 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: better quality fuel, the longer the vehicle lasts. I appreciate 332 00:18:29,920 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 1: the call. Larry zero. We're back right after this. Welcome back, 333 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 1: you know. And for Tom so Tom, if you wait 334 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,320 Speaker 1: till you're ninety and that little girl is sixty, I 335 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: gotta finish up tom birthday story. If you wait till 336 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:10,400 Speaker 1: you're ninety and that girl is sixty, now you're one 337 00:19:10,440 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: and a half times as old as that little girl. 338 00:19:12,119 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: She's catching up even more. Yeah, but you know what, 339 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: she'll catch up to me ultimately if I'm in a box. Well, 340 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: that's right, that's the answer. When you're a hundred, When 341 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: you're a hundred and you're done, By the way, are 342 00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: we're still gonna do the show after we're dead? Um? 343 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: You know what we might have to maybe in our contracts. God, 344 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: what a bunch of slave drivers. Let's go over to 345 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: Let's get over to Rich in Virginia. Oh seven Ford 346 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Edge Rich. Welcome to the car doctress, sir, How can 347 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: I help? My daughter has an O seven and she 348 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: upgraded the car and we took it off of her hands, 349 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: and her main complaint was that it was hard shifting 350 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: between first and second. Now I've driven I've driven the 351 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: car multiple times on like twenty minute rides or something 352 00:19:58,560 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: like that, zero issue use whatsoever. And then I took 353 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:05,480 Speaker 1: it on a longer drive and then bam it was. 354 00:20:05,760 --> 00:20:09,200 Speaker 1: It was a hard shift between first and second and 355 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: it was kind of like shattering the more it warms up. Yes, 356 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: she did mention that if you if you run the 357 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: A C or the heat, it happened sooner. Okay, so 358 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:24,640 Speaker 1: maybe it's putting the heat. Because it's putting the heat, well, 359 00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:26,480 Speaker 1: it's changing the heat load. I don't see what doing 360 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: the heat would I can understand a C. How many 361 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: miles are on the car? Rich, Well, the motor has, 362 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 1: I think, and why would the trans be different? She 363 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 1: blew the motor? Okay, so how many miles? How many miles? 364 00:20:42,880 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 1: How many miles of the trans have on it? Probably 365 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 1: I'm going to guess at like alright, so it's a 366 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 1: twenty thousand mile transmission. What makes you think this just 367 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:55,320 Speaker 1: doesn't what makes you think this just doesn't do for 368 00:20:55,359 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 1: an overhaul? Well, I wouldn't doubt it. But looking on 369 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,439 Speaker 1: line in certain things like that, they said that there's uh, 370 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: the O seven and O eight we're famous for having 371 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: shift issues and they recommend t SS replacement, right, they 372 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: had problems with output CHEF speed sensors, but normally you 373 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 1: will see fault codes. So you know, let me let 374 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 1: me say it like this, and I'll put CHEFT speed 375 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: sensor is what its name implies. It tells the computer 376 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: the rate of speed acceleration or de acceleration of the 377 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: output shaft. And they also have one on the input 378 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: shift TSS transmission speed sensors. So if those are sending 379 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: out misleading information, there's cases where they won't necessarily set 380 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: a fault code, but it will affect shift rate. That's possible, 381 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: all right, and it's it's it's surely worth going in 382 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: to get it diagnosed. But I wouldn't be surprised obviously 383 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: to look at fluid condition and you know, quality and color. 384 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: But then I wouldn't be surprised if you're you know, 385 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,200 Speaker 1: happen to run into the fact that it's just getting 386 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: to be an older unit. The more it heats up, 387 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 1: the worst gets because the system starts to break the 388 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: fluid down from heat, and uh, it becomes a problem. 389 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: So you know, get it into the shop. I agree, 390 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: it could be sensors, but it would also be a 391 00:22:12,840 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: trans unit and uh, you know, you got to the 392 00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:17,479 Speaker 1: side of you're ready to put you know, the three 393 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: or four thousand dollars into it. Best answer I got 394 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 1: at the moment. So maybe when somebody checks it out, 395 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: looks at maybe some pending fault codes, or looks at 396 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,160 Speaker 1: sensor performance, you'll get a better answer. Let's get over 397 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: to Tom and Wisconsin. Tom Roniny and at your service, 398 00:22:32,480 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: or how can I help? Hey, Ron, I got a 399 00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: super duty. I got an issue with my wiper system. 400 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: On the normal low and high modes work, they work fine, 401 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 1: but I put it on to delay area anywhere on 402 00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 1: that area. It works fine for oh five ten minutes 403 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:05,240 Speaker 1: or so, and then they wipers to stop. Go back 404 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: to the m constant on lower high than they work fine, 405 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: and then go back to the delay area and they 406 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: may this is very intermitted it you know, I may 407 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 1: not have an issue. And then after ten minutes or so, 408 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 1: then it starts acting up again. And what do you 409 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: what do you do to so to get it to work? 410 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 1: You shut it off? Well, I just go back to 411 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: the lower or high mode on the wiper than they 412 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,600 Speaker 1: work fine, and I may put it back on delay 413 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 1: and they may work fine for five minutes and then 414 00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:48,960 Speaker 1: start just they just shut off and they won't part properly. Um, 415 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,639 Speaker 1: I don't know. People say it's the motor, it's switch 416 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: in the handle to want to start replacing parts, right right, 417 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: right right? So you know, if you were to go 418 00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:06,720 Speaker 1: to the wiper motor, all right, um, you should, there'll 419 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: be a light blue wire there all right. If you 420 00:24:10,080 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: were to connect a voltmeter across the battery negative and 421 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:16,600 Speaker 1: put the wipers on low speed, that test light should 422 00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: be lit when the wipers are on the windshield, When 423 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: the wipers are at the bottom where they normally parked, 424 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:26,240 Speaker 1: that test lights should go out. Okay, If that test 425 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: light continues to stay lit, it probably has a bad 426 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: parks which inside the motor, and that's how you would 427 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: determine it. Alright, um right, it's you know. Now if 428 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 1: if the park switches working, then you've got to get 429 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: over to the wiper relay in the battery junction box 430 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 1: and then I I've actually got a series of tests 431 00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,800 Speaker 1: you can run through that if you know, if you 432 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: want do this, Tom, do this. Let's let's make this 433 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: quick and simple. Send me an email Ron at card 434 00:24:55,680 --> 00:24:58,760 Speaker 1: doctor show dot com. I know exactly where I said 435 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:01,919 Speaker 1: I went through this once got a test procedure UM 436 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: out of one of the information sources that I saved 437 00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: because I went through this and you just sit there 438 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: and you go through wire pin by pin and it'll 439 00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: it'll just save you a whole bunch of steps. It's 440 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: it's too detailed. If I give it to you here, 441 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm just wasting airspace. UM. Send me an email Rontic 442 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,240 Speaker 1: Car Doctors Show dot com and I'll be glad to 443 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: print it and send it to you. I'll pdf it 444 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:21,760 Speaker 1: to you, all right, sir. Thanks, you're very welcome. Take 445 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:24,520 Speaker 1: good care. You're very welcome. Let's let's pull over and 446 00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 1: take a pause. Ron on any of the car Doctor. 447 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: We're back right after this. Welcome back, We're on any 448 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 1: of the Car Doctor. Let's wander over to Robert in Kentucky. 449 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 1: See what's going on here, Hey Robert, Welcome aboard, sir. 450 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: How can I help? Yeah, I got this pick up 451 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 1: and I'm replacing the water pump and right now, first 452 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: into the good it's as if it was cemented. Your 453 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: gasket shredded, apartners, it's really strongly adhering to the block. 454 00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: I'm having a really different time. It's getting that cleaned 455 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 1: off or put on the new gasket. Do you have 456 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: any techniques? Right, I've got Um. I was out there 457 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: for about two hours with paint dinner, and then I 458 00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: had some silic crawl and an abrasive plastics carb. Yeah. 459 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to you don't want to hit it 460 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: too hard. It's what I'll try to do, is I 461 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: will try I'll take a straight edged razor blade and 462 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: try to cut right into the gasket because it's sort 463 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: of become hard and shell act right to that, right 464 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: to the cover. Um, and I will I will take 465 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: I will take a straight edged razor blade, being mindful 466 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:44,919 Speaker 1: not to cut into the into the base metal. But 467 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 1: just can I get a razor blade under it? You know, 468 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:50,680 Speaker 1: it's kind of like flicking off kind of a gross 469 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 1: thing to say on radio. It's kind of like flicking 470 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,600 Speaker 1: off a fingernail. You want to catch it just right 471 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,479 Speaker 1: it pops off. Um. You know, although it's really going 472 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: to be on their hard Uh, you don't. You don't 473 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: want to use like the brown disks, the rotary disks 474 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,439 Speaker 1: that guys will sit there and try to wiz it 475 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 1: off because you'll just you'll just chew it up. Uh. 476 00:27:10,280 --> 00:27:12,280 Speaker 1: You know. The other thing you could try is if 477 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:13,879 Speaker 1: you've got a way to hit it, maybe with a 478 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:17,240 Speaker 1: heat gun, and you know, just if you get it 479 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: a little on the warmer side, depending on how warm 480 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: it is where you're doing it, and then pick at 481 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: it with the straight razor blade. You know, that might 482 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: help as well. You know. I've also yeah, and that's 483 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: like I kind of figured this time of year, it's 484 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 1: probably cold. If you're working on it out in the garage. 485 00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't help. It's you've got to get that. 486 00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:38,880 Speaker 1: You know, you've got to warm it up. Probably it's 487 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:41,720 Speaker 1: best doing something like that fifty or sixty degrees at 488 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,600 Speaker 1: a base and if it's snow and it's pretty cold, 489 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: so uh, you know, but that that heat difference will 490 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: maybe shock the system too and cause it to pop 491 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: up and separate. I have tried carb cleaner. You know, 492 00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,639 Speaker 1: carve cleaner is pretty caustic. If you can get something 493 00:27:56,680 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 1: really old and probably illegal at this point that you're 494 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:00,920 Speaker 1: not supposed to have in the first I've got from 495 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:02,720 Speaker 1: from my I think from my grant. Well, I got 496 00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:07,240 Speaker 1: starting fluid. I'm not sure what's in starting fluid. I 497 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: would I would prefer carb cleaner because it's got more 498 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: of a cleaning agent to it. Um. You know, it's 499 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 1: got more of a deep cleaning action, and it's not 500 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,920 Speaker 1: going to fall and make a real bloody mess all 501 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: over the place. You know, carb clean we used to 502 00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: you know, soak and dip carbs in the solution or 503 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: carb dip solution. Just something to break down the gasket 504 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: material is what you're chasing, you know, access to that surface. 505 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,639 Speaker 1: It would be easier if I could remove that eiler 506 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: pulley and there's two bolts that I was able to 507 00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:38,000 Speaker 1: get off without too much half, But then there's one 508 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: back hidden behind that primary polly, and I can't even 509 00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 1: get enough leverage with just the standard open ended get 510 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: you got any thoughts on getting additional torque? I guess 511 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: you've probably got some kind of open it. It's just 512 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: a there's a really narrow space to get a wrench 513 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: back in behind there, behind that polly. Can I can 514 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm trying to remember what it looks like. It's been 515 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,400 Speaker 1: a while since I've on one, but you know, can 516 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: I put an extension on that socket and pull it 517 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: out on a ratchet further away from the block, moving 518 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,719 Speaker 1: moving it away or is there no room coming out. 519 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: I can't even get a socket in there just using 520 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 1: like an old traditional open ended Why why can't Why 521 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:21,320 Speaker 1: can't you get a socket in their depth or access 522 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: to it? What's what's what's from front to back? What's 523 00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,040 Speaker 1: what's in the way? Roberts the front, in the front, 524 00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,680 Speaker 1: there's that pulley, and then there's just there's just enough 525 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:38,200 Speaker 1: to get like a basic simple open ended wrench. I can't, 526 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,360 Speaker 1: you know, I can't. Can you You can't even get 527 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,720 Speaker 1: like a regular socket wrench around it? Can you get 528 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,760 Speaker 1: a can you You can't get a box wrench on 529 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: it has it's like an open end and there's not 530 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 1: a space to come in from the front of it. Okay, 531 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: so let me ask you this question. What if you 532 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: were changing that idler pulley bracket, how would you change it? 533 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,680 Speaker 1: And my my my point becomes, forget you're doing a 534 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:01,880 Speaker 1: water pump. I always approach it how to the factory. 535 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: The factory has to have a way for that part 536 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: to come apart. Yeah, exactly, which I don't have. Well, 537 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything special here. I think we're 538 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 1: missing something. Uh you know I'm missing Yeah. Well, but 539 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: so I'm looking to take the leverage point further away 540 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 1: from where you're at all right, Um, could you get 541 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 1: you can't get a box wrench on that you don't 542 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: have the access point? Yeah, it's just not enough space 543 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,640 Speaker 1: to get fighted in front of there and then back 544 00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 1: it in an Would you would use in quarter in 545 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: sockets help instead of using three aids? They don't have 546 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:42,640 Speaker 1: enough space. It's really tight. It's a good engine to 547 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: work on, but you know you run into these ye 548 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: issues that hamper that. Just I'm just I'm just learning 549 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: as I go. I don't have a full Yeah, No, 550 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: I just find it. I kind of find it hard 551 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: to believe that the only thing I can get on 552 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: there is an open end. Can you send me a 553 00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 1: picture of it? Nope, I don't have the technology where 554 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:09,880 Speaker 1: I am. But let's see once I Yeah, I've got 555 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: a few other questions. I don't know if we want 556 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 1: to move on from that one, or you've got any 557 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,120 Speaker 1: whatever you want to whatever you want to do. I 558 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: was gonna say, if you wanted to send me a 559 00:31:16,400 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: picture of it, I could I could maybe get a 560 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: better sense of it. Ask me your other questions. Okay, 561 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: I've got I'm working from the Haynes manual and from 562 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 1: the Toyota O E M and O E M manual 563 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have any Torku specs. There's when I go to 564 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 1: put this water pumped back on, there's eight ten millimeter 565 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,600 Speaker 1: bolts and bolt in the center. And then the Haynes 566 00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:42,400 Speaker 1: manual has the specs for the V six which are thirteen. 567 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: They're saying thirteen. Now they do have the specs for 568 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: the thermostat which are fourteen on the V six as well, 569 00:31:50,280 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: and those correlate with my O E M does give 570 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: to you thermostat footpounds. But do you have any idea 571 00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: about do you think that that would apply this for 572 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: the bolts or bolts? All right? You know, torque is 573 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: all about your applying a certain amount of twist to 574 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,360 Speaker 1: maintain tension to the bolt. You know, it's not going 575 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: to take a lot, alright. What I would do is 576 00:32:15,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: I would bring it up to you know, on a 577 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: ten millimeter bolt like that's something that's small. I'd be 578 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: very careful not to overtighten it because I don't want 579 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: to break something. So you know, I would have to 580 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: think that a water pump mounting bolt is probably going 581 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,240 Speaker 1: to be somewhere between ten and twelve foot pounds at best, 582 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: maybe fourteen um, right, so you're in the range. You know, 583 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 1: it's also a matter of feel. You know how how 584 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: old and tired is the base metal. You don't wanna 585 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: you don't want to pull on it so hard that 586 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 1: you create an issue either. You know, I would creep 587 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 1: up on it, um, snug it up a little bit, 588 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: smaller ratchets, smaller tools, and uh, you know, if it's 589 00:32:57,280 --> 00:32:59,480 Speaker 1: not leak and leave it alone. But I want to 590 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 1: see a pick you if you can send me a 591 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: picture of Ron at Car Doctor show dot com. If 592 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 1: you have that ability at some point, Robert, I'd like 593 00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:07,640 Speaker 1: to see what that other bolt looks like. Keep me posted. 594 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,400 Speaker 1: Good luck to you, and I appreciate the call. I'm 595 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: Ron any and I'll be back right after this. Welcome 596 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 1: back or of the Car Doctor. Let's get over to 597 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: Ken in Connecticut. Ken, I got two minutes. What's going on? Uh? 598 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 1: This is wrong with the seven seven mere comment? Okay, 599 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: I just wanted to you are truly the car Doctor. 600 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 1: That's all I can say. I haven't answered the question yet, 601 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,080 Speaker 1: so let's see. Let's see if I can maintain that title. No, 602 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: I just need I just need a diagnosis. I think 603 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 1: I know, but I'm an old mechanic. But okay, the 604 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:48,960 Speaker 1: signal lights said the signal lights were good. The right 605 00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: one is a little dull, but it works good. At night, 606 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: you're pull the headlights switched on and the left signals 607 00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:01,720 Speaker 1: don't work. Okay, so it's Robin from somewhere. Now I'm 608 00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: thinking it's the steering of the signal lights switch. I 609 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: don't know. I would I would, I would grab a 610 00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:11,719 Speaker 1: wiring diagram and take a look at you want to 611 00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,640 Speaker 1: prove it's the switch or not to disconnect the headlights? 612 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,960 Speaker 1: Disconnect the headlights? Does the problem go away? If you 613 00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,880 Speaker 1: take the electrical load out of the circuit, then the 614 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,279 Speaker 1: actuation of the headlights switch turning on is causing a 615 00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: short circuit. If not, if the problem goes away with 616 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: the headlights in neon position, then I've got to believe 617 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: that we're losing ground somewhere. We've got we've got a 618 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: ground that's got a poor connection. Are the headlights bright 619 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,600 Speaker 1: when they were on without turning on the two signals? Yeah, 620 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,320 Speaker 1: and it's just the left signal to work when the 621 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 1: headlights are on the right so have your voltage drop 622 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: tested the negative side of the battery from chassis to 623 00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:53,040 Speaker 1: engine and from engine, Yeah, I would. I would go 624 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:55,439 Speaker 1: through and look at that. It's it's you know, back 625 00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,000 Speaker 1: in the day, Kenny, that was a prime example when 626 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 1: a vehicle was steel in ground for one circuit to 627 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,160 Speaker 1: use it on another. Remember, you know, electron electrons always 628 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,279 Speaker 1: follow the easiest path. So if there's if there's a 629 00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 1: rusty corroded ground connection, uh, you know, it's it's the 630 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,680 Speaker 1: simplest way to go. I would think, jeez, how many 631 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: how many wirings and how many wires can be in 632 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,600 Speaker 1: that circuit for uh, it's gonna be pretty cut and 633 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: dry to figure out. Uh. And when I put the 634 00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:28,360 Speaker 1: switch on the signal light switch, you have to sometimes 635 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,719 Speaker 1: play with a little to get a go. Well. And 636 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: that's not to say we don't have a bad switch, 637 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: but you know, until we started voltage drop testing and looking. 638 00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,879 Speaker 1: But just keep in mind, once you get through all this, 639 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: a ground is where I would go, especially on an 640 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,080 Speaker 1: older vehicle, as the first step, and then work my 641 00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,080 Speaker 1: way out. Don't start throwing parts at it, because I 642 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: know you don't want to do that, all right, Sorry, 643 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate the call. I'm running any of the car DOC, 644 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759 Speaker 1: reminding each and every one of you this time till 645 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 1: the next time. Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. See 646 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: you one. She goes to s