1 00:00:00,880 --> 00:00:10,080 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. The Devil's Den killer suspect 2 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:13,800 Speaker 1: was bounced from school to school to school because of 3 00:00:13,880 --> 00:00:19,680 Speaker 1: inappropriate behavior with little girls, but no one ever fired him. 4 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,480 Speaker 1: That's how he ended up at the murder scene. Joining 5 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: us now is a very special guest. It's Danica Harold. 6 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: She has a longtime friend of the murdered mom and dad, 7 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 1: stabbed dead on a public hiking trail for families trying 8 00:00:38,360 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: to protect their daughters. Miss Harold, thank you for being 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: with us. When did you learn that your friends Kristen 10 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,240 Speaker 1: and Clinton had passed away? 11 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: Were killed about midnight between Saturday and Sunday. 12 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:54,840 Speaker 1: How did you find out the news? 13 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 2: Someone sent me a news article and I actually thought 14 00:00:58,880 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: it was a hoax researching. 15 00:01:01,120 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: It now, you've known them for a long time. What 16 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: was your reaction when you discovered they hadn't just passed on, 17 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: that they had actually been stabbed dead. 18 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 2: I was pretty mortified. It was very it was very 19 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 2: hard to learn that information. 20 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,520 Speaker 1: Could you tell us, Miss Harrold, about the two of them. 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,479 Speaker 1: We keep hearing that they were murdered trying to protect 22 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: their daughters, that the mom helped her two little girls 23 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: get away from the killer, and then after they were 24 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,959 Speaker 1: safe in her mind, she went back to help fight 25 00:01:38,000 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: the killer off her husband, and in so doing, she 26 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:45,840 Speaker 1: herself was murdered trying to defend him. Does that sound 27 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: like her? 28 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 2: They were all about their family. 29 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: Tell us what you can about them, because they have 30 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,000 Speaker 1: turned into props for the killer. We just hear they 31 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,120 Speaker 1: were stabbed. What can you tell us about them? How 32 00:02:03,160 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: did you meet? Describe them for us? 33 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: Actually met them. They joined my co ed volleyball league, 34 00:02:09,520 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 2: and she would bring her daughters with volleyball, and it 35 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: turns out we had, you know, two daughters that were 36 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: the same age. So then that in turn led to 37 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: us hanging out outside of volleyball, and she was just 38 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 2: as sweet as could be. I ran into some issues 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,760 Speaker 2: with childcare, and she offered to take my daughter overnight 40 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: while I worked out of town. Didn't even bat an eyelash, 41 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,400 Speaker 2: And you know, she had to keep her over Christmas 42 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,960 Speaker 2: one year, and she went as far as to make 43 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 2: sure that my daughter had the same matching pajamas as 44 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 2: her kids. 45 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: I can't believe that. I'm just trying to take that in. 46 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: I've had a lot of spin the nights from my 47 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:53,839 Speaker 1: children's friends, but I never thought to go to that 48 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,920 Speaker 1: length to make the guests happy. 49 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: She kept her three to four nights every week while 50 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 2: I worked out of town three to four days. 51 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 1: So you and Kristen became very close. 52 00:03:06,840 --> 00:03:09,520 Speaker 2: We did. She lived, She's probably about half miles from 53 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: my house, and I'd go on walks and we'd stop 54 00:03:12,080 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: at her house and we'd just sit down and visit 55 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 2: and she'd make some coffee or tea, and our daughters 56 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: would play outside. 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 1: We're showing photos of Kristin right now, and I'm wondering 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: if you could tell us about the dynamic between her 59 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: and her husband. They seemed very happily married. 60 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: They were they were supportive of each other. Christina was 61 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 2: a stay at home mom and Clinton worked. When she 62 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: decided to attempt to go through the nursing program, and 63 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: at the two year programs was very difficult, like you're 64 00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: away for two years just because of how much time 65 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 2: you have to put into it, and Clinton told her 66 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: to jump in with both feet. It's like, there's no 67 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 2: reason we can't get through this. And that's exactly what 68 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Kristen did. With Clinton support, she was able to become 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 2: a nurse. And then that just allowed them to do 70 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: so much more with their kids. They started traveling more 71 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 2: and it was just it was they built this beautiful 72 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: life together. 73 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,840 Speaker 1: Tell me about their traveling. I mean, we've got photos 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 1: of them hiking, of them on a cruise. I assume 75 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: they took their little girls with them. 76 00:04:23,120 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: Yep, everywhere they went, and it was usually they tried 77 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,359 Speaker 2: to do things that were outdoors. They loved being outside, 78 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,239 Speaker 2: they loved we didn't have much for hiking here around 79 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: Little Miles City, so they were always traveling to go 80 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 2: and find new experiences to take the girls on. 81 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: What were some of their vacations. What were some of 82 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: their trips they went on. 83 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,039 Speaker 2: Mainly it was just you know, like down in Red Lodge, 84 00:04:45,040 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 2: it's a beautiful area, so they'd take the girls camping 85 00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 2: down there, and then they'd go find hiking trails and 86 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 2: they'd just let the girls do what they you know, 87 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 2: explore mother nature. And I guess that was mainly what 88 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 2: they did. 89 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: You know, that sounds exactly like me. When we grew up. 90 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: We had a vacation and the vacation started on Friday 91 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: and it ended on Sunday. But to us, it was 92 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:12,479 Speaker 1: like this incredible vacation where we would go into the 93 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: smoky mountains and all be together. I'm looking at cruise 94 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: ship photos of them. I see beach photos of them, 95 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:23,400 Speaker 1: hiking photos of them. Seems like they took the girls 96 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: on a lot of outdoor trips. Now there were three girls, Arianna, Christina, 97 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:32,360 Speaker 1: and Brianna. Tell me about the girls. 98 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: Christina and Ariana were pretty little when I started going 99 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 2: and hanging out with them, and they were just the 100 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:42,280 Speaker 2: sweetest little things that just melted your heart when you 101 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: go over there. Their big old brown and blue eyes. Brianna, 102 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 2: she was a little older, and she was just as sweet. 103 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 2: She had this light blonde hair and she had big 104 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 2: blue eyes, just like Kristen Danda. We used to go 105 00:05:56,960 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: riding around on my flour wheeler when Christina would have 106 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 2: my daughter and her little girls, and I just remember 107 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: how big her lasts were and how excited she was 108 00:06:08,440 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: to get to do little things like that. She was 109 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: just the sweetest girl too. 110 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:20,400 Speaker 1: Miss Harrold. You were mentioning earlier that the husband helped her. 111 00:06:20,720 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: Clinton Brink helped Kristin get through nursing school. How did 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:25,920 Speaker 1: he help her? 113 00:06:26,040 --> 00:06:28,240 Speaker 2: He gave her the time that she needed to do it. 114 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: So he took care of the girls while she went 115 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:31,440 Speaker 1: to school. 116 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 2: Yep, or he'd help her find somebody who was there 117 00:06:35,600 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 2: that could take the girls if he happened to be working. 118 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: Wow. Now, from what we're learning, the two Kristin and 119 00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: Clinton were attacked on the trail. I believe after one 120 00:06:50,480 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 1: of their daughters had been grabbed or approached by the suspect. 121 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:02,600 Speaker 1: She Kristin. He got the girls to run and escorted 122 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: them to a certain point and then turned told them 123 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:10,240 Speaker 1: to keep going, and then turned back to save Clinton. 124 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: Why do you believe, with your knowledge of them, that 125 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: that's an accurate report. 126 00:07:18,280 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 2: I don't think Kristin wanted the girls to have a 127 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 2: broken family and have to learn how to navigate life 128 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 2: without their dad. 129 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 1: How close were Kristin and Clinton? 130 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 2: From what I saw, they were very close. 131 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 1: What was his personality? Danica? 132 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: Clinton was very hard working. He did whatever he needed 133 00:07:35,760 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 2: to do for his family. If a job didn't happen 134 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 2: to work out, he'd have a new job within a week. 135 00:07:43,280 --> 00:07:46,680 Speaker 2: He also, when they moved to Rapid City, he found 136 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 2: it best that he become a CNA and he actually 137 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: worked in the same hospital as Christina did as a nurse. 138 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: You know, I'm just looking as you're talking or showing 139 00:07:58,120 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 1: photos of them at all these different places that they 140 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: went with their children. Do you ever wonder, Danica like 141 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: I do, why is it that the innocent people that 142 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: work hard, that love their family, why they are the 143 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,679 Speaker 1: ones targeted by criminals? 144 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 2: Yeah? I've been wondering that almost every day since I 145 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: found out it happened. I guess they try and view 146 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: us family oriented people as weak. And I guess once 147 00:08:29,320 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 2: they decide, you know, to attack somebody, or they figure 148 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 2: out how much love and compassion we actually have for 149 00:08:37,040 --> 00:08:40,680 Speaker 2: our kids and for our significant others, and I guess 150 00:08:40,679 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 2: that they're rude awakening for them. 151 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:45,679 Speaker 1: Why did they move Danica. 152 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,160 Speaker 2: To be closer to family? 153 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: What family were they trying to get closer to his 154 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: or hers or both? 155 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 2: Well? Before she moved to Rapid City, they were discussing 156 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 2: whether they should go and go to Christen's side of 157 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 2: the family in California or move down south towards Clinton 158 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 2: side of the family. So they moved a Rapid City 159 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: to get experienced in the hospital setting until they were 160 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 2: ready to jump and make that decision. 161 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of people are looking for a 162 00:09:14,800 --> 00:09:19,600 Speaker 1: connection between the suspect as he is called the Devil's 163 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: Den killer and them. I don't think they knew each other. 164 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: I think that this was just a chance meeting on 165 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: that trail. Do you have any reason to believe they 166 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 1: knew this guy? 167 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,319 Speaker 2: I don't. I agree with you. It was completely random. 168 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean they were in Arkansas for what a month? 169 00:09:38,320 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: And it's like you said, he would take any job 170 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: just to keep working. I know he was supposed to 171 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 1: start a male milk delivery route just a day or 172 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:52,000 Speaker 1: two after he was murdered. Have you seen the alleged 173 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: perp the suspect began. 174 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 2: I did. I saw the photos after he was mid haircut. 175 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 2: He looks very un I felt like it was very 176 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 2: bold of him to go and get a haircut just 177 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 2: days after he committed such a heinous act. 178 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,480 Speaker 1: I agree. Why do you say that, I mean. 179 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 2: That town was so close to where the incident occurred. 180 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:21,160 Speaker 2: He just didn't He thought he was invincible. Nobody would 181 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: notice his car description. 182 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 1: As a matter of a very unique car, Danica. We 183 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: are showing video right now of him parking right in 184 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: the front parking spot and sauntering in. He kept looking 185 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:38,959 Speaker 1: down and he refused to sign. You know how when 186 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:40,839 Speaker 1: you go to a salon, you're supposed to sign in. 187 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,520 Speaker 1: He refused to sign it. He'd been trying to get 188 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: his haircut for about two days. And guys, you're seeing 189 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: this video that is we are allowed to play it 190 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: by Lupita's beauty salon where this happened. These ladies had 191 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: no idea that they were inches away from an alleged 192 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: double killer. When his photo on the trail came out 193 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: as a photo from behind, his hair was coming out 194 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: from under his hat, and I wondered if he had 195 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: gone into the salon to shave off the back of 196 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: his hair or get a complete buzz. And as a 197 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 1: matter of fact, that's what he did. He had his 198 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 1: hair buzzed up the back, so it was completely different hair, hairstyle. 199 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,920 Speaker 1: Check it out and in the back buzz straight up 200 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,760 Speaker 1: the back, Danica, I think he was doing that on 201 00:11:33,840 --> 00:11:38,880 Speaker 1: purpose to conceal his identity. Miss Harold, when you think 202 00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 1: back on what's happening, or when you drift off to 203 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 1: sleep at night, what are your thoughts about Kristin and Clinton. 204 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,840 Speaker 2: It just hurts my heart. I still don't want to 205 00:11:48,880 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 2: believe it. No one should have to go. 206 00:11:50,400 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 1: Through this, Miss Harold, Thank you so much for being 207 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: with us and telling us more about Kristin and Clinton, 208 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 1: their stories yet to be told. Miss Harol, thank you