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Speaker 1: You're listening to Dracking Network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 4: I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 5: Let's heart, big.

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Speaker 3: Job there, Cooktuffia. I believe there are a couple of

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Speaker 3: absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: You are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 6: I placed a straight wager on my home studio today

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Speaker 6: as an even money underdog to make it through the

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Speaker 6: whole program. We have reset everything, we have updated everything.

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Speaker 6: I'm betting on the even money underdog. Yes, studio makes

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Speaker 6: it through today. No is minus one twenty. Great to

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Speaker 6: be back in all of your respective life. It is

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Speaker 6: Earth Day, Happy Earth Day, Monday, April twenty second, twenty

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Speaker 6: twenty four. It is episode four eighty three of the

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Speaker 6: Anakin Florian podcast Ken Fla. I was in Orlando this weekend.

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Speaker 6: Went to a hotel that's got a bunch of water

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Speaker 6: slides for my daughter's eleventh birthday. She turns eleven today

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Speaker 6: on this here Earth Day, and I asked my wife.

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Speaker 6: At one point I did have a Pinya Colada. At

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Speaker 6: one point in time, I got the extra you know,

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Speaker 6: dark rum shot in there. I don't have the highest

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Speaker 6: tolerance in the world for that particular substance poison alcohol.

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Speaker 6: And I was pretty lit and I said, Honey, can

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Speaker 6: I buy some bitcoin? And she said no, what come on, dude, Hey, listen,

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Speaker 6: you didn't.

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Speaker 3: You didn't. You didn't get lifted before going to SeaWorld.

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Speaker 1: Also, I got to say, in regards to the studio,

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Speaker 1: I don't have a lot of faith in it. Hasn't

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Speaker 1: been consistent, doesn't have momentum heading into this all right,

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Speaker 1: So at this stage of his career, hitting all my cliches,

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Speaker 1: all right, that's it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, No, my studio does not have a great cardiovascular base.

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Speaker 6: And you know, some of this show's fan base doesn't

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Speaker 6: even like when I use some of the bells and whistles. Anyway,

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Speaker 6: do you like the astern one? Askron stiff as a board? No,

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Speaker 6: I mean, what's wrong with here?

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Speaker 2: An?

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Speaker 6: Askron Stiff as a board? I mean, is b going

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Speaker 6: to get a title fight him?

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Speaker 3: Flow?

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Speaker 6: I mean, can we announce Blau Muhammad's title fight already?

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Speaker 3: Kenny? What are we doing?

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Speaker 1: They're teasing us the tea it's gotta be coming up,

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Speaker 1: Like I feel bad. I saw ballal obviously when we're

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Speaker 1: out in Vegas. I feel bad about it. He's just like, ah,

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Speaker 1: we're trying, man, We'll see what happened.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, po God.

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Speaker 6: So this weekend, I'm I'm going to Las Vegas this weekend,

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Speaker 6: and I got invited by the UFC, not by Patrick

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Speaker 6: Mahomes directly, but to play in Patrick Mahomes's charity golf

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Speaker 6: tournament at Shadow Creek in Las Vegas this weekend. So

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Speaker 6: I don't know if I'm the worst golfer in the field.

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Speaker 6: I hadn't played in about two and a half years.

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Speaker 6: I went through a time where I was playing with

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Speaker 6: Daniel me A pretty regularly. Haven't played about two and

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Speaker 6: a half years. So I went out there, and man,

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Speaker 6: did I chop it up. I'm trying to practice, Kenny.

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Speaker 6: This could be ugly. Hopefully there's no gallery or I

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Speaker 6: could you know, I could get in real trouble. But uh, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I don't know. I think I'm gonna be pretty nervous

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Speaker 6: when I step on that first team.

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Speaker 1: Dude, that's awesome, that's freaking really awesome. Hey, but you're

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Speaker 1: better than DC, right, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I was certainly when we used to play.

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Speaker 6: If I can say that, I think, right now he's

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Speaker 6: probably better than me everything in the Cup. He's calling

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Speaker 6: the fights, and I'm not sure that he is playing

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Speaker 6: despite the invY, Justin Geachee is playing. And I went

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Speaker 6: on Ryan Rossillo's podcast on the Ringer and I said,

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Speaker 6: Justin Geechee, I would imagine we'll still show up and

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Speaker 6: we're gonna get to Justin Gaigie here in a second

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Speaker 6: in terms of his fighting future. But Justin Gaigie much

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Speaker 6: better golfer than me. Incidentally, nice takeaway. Just a better

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Speaker 6: athlete than me, just a better human being. Just Geatechie

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Speaker 6: better than me at everything. So but you think about

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Speaker 6: the conversations that just Geigee is going to have with

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Speaker 6: a lot of these NFL players relative to what those

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Speaker 6: conversations might have held if he had held on one

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Speaker 6: second longer in that BMF title fight against Max Holloway.

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Speaker 6: You know, And I just bring it up because you

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Speaker 6: brought up running into BLA Muhammad, and you can imagine

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Speaker 6: how many thousands of times he's had to have the conversation,

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Speaker 6: oh you get in the title fight. It's like fuck

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Speaker 6: if I know, right, fudge, if I know, as Blau

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Speaker 6: would say, But for Geechee's going to have to have

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Speaker 6: a lot of similar conversations. I would imagine like, oh man,

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Speaker 6: you know, but what an absolute warrior Justin Geagee is.

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Speaker 6: And speaking of which, headlines brought to you by Cuerbo,

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Speaker 6: now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila.

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Speaker 6: So Justin Geichee is not done now. Our good friend

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Speaker 6: and colleague gar Jay Clifford pushed out a tweet suggesting

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Speaker 6: that maybe Justin Gaichie should walk away like this, and

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Speaker 6: in some respects Kenny, I agree with the sentiment that

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Speaker 6: this could be the perfect capstone for Justin Gaichie to

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Speaker 6: go out on right, face down to the cam after

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Speaker 6: this epic war with Max Holloway. There's nothing left to

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Speaker 6: prove now, Yes, he could still be one win away

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Speaker 6: from the undisputed UFC Lightweight Championship, and I think that

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Speaker 6: enough is reason to stick around. And maybe he just

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Speaker 6: doesn't want to go out on this particular visual, But

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Speaker 6: I do subscribe to some of our Jay's theory that

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Speaker 6: this would be a pretty epic way for Gatechie to

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Speaker 6: go out, like you know what I gave you, fans.

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Speaker 3: More than ninety nine.

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Speaker 6: Point nine percent of professional athletes ever give, and this

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Speaker 6: is how I'm going to go out. But if you

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Speaker 6: believe him at his word, and we do, Justin, Gage's

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Speaker 6: gonna fight on Kenfler.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, listen. I don't think he's done either.

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Speaker 1: I think that there were a lot of things that

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Speaker 1: didn't go right for him that night, and sometimes that's

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Speaker 1: just the way it goes. This sport will give it

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Speaker 1: and it will take it away just as easily. And

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Speaker 1: Gatechie's been on the right side a lot of those things.

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Speaker 1: I mean even you know, go back to the Dustin

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Speaker 1: Poitier fight. It didn't seem like things were going great

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Speaker 1: for him and all of a sudden he hits that

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Speaker 3: He's the mannequin and you know here he was in

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Speaker 3: this fight, had a couple eye gougers.

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Speaker 1: Things weren't going well, and you know, ultimately lost in

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Speaker 1: the last second of that fight. But no shame in

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Speaker 1: losing to someone like Max Holloway at all. So by

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Speaker 1: no means am I looking at this and going, oh,

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Speaker 1: Gagee's done, he needs to retire. I think he's got

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Speaker 1: said himself that he didn't see him with this style

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Speaker 1: it being a long term plan. He wanted to get

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Speaker 1: fights seems appropriate for me, you know, I think maybe

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Speaker 1: a rematch against Charles Olivera makes a lot of sense

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Speaker 1: at this stage of the game. But there's so many

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Speaker 1: more exciting fights left for him. Will he take all

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Speaker 1: of those exciting fights? Probably not, maybe one or two.

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Speaker 6: I'm not sure I've come down yet from UFC three

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Speaker 6: hundred and as we transition to Max Holloway, who is

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Speaker 6: in position in theory to fight for three belts. He

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Speaker 6: could either defend the BMF title, or fight for the

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Speaker 6: end Sputed Featherweight Championship against Ilia Topotia, or fight for

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Speaker 6: the Undisputed Lightweight Championship against whomever has it when that

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Speaker 6: point in time arrives. So, if Max Holloway's next fight

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Speaker 6: is for the Undisputed Featherweight Championship and you had to

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Speaker 6: wanted to sort of make you qualify this or insert

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Speaker 6: a caveat that you couldn't put together a BMF fight

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Speaker 6: But if you were the UFC and Max was fighting

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Speaker 6: or Charles Oliver or some of these guys, ideally guys

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Speaker 6: and you can go Max if you want to. But

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Speaker 6: if you're making a BMF title fight, what fight are

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Well I would say this.

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Speaker 1: I think if Max is involved, I would love to

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Speaker 1: see him against another BMF in Chandler. I think that

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Speaker 1: would be a phenomenal fight. But I do have some

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Speaker 1: other options for guys that aren't. I went a little

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Speaker 1: a little variety. One Pyodr, Yanna Davis and Figaredo are

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Speaker 1: two guys that always bring it, that love to throw down.

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Speaker 1: They're one hundred and thirty five pounders, but they could

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Speaker 1: between those guys. And also MVP and wonder Boy, and

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Speaker 1: I think they've said something that maybe that fight isn't

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Speaker 1: gonna happen. But MVP and Waterboy two badasses. Two karate backgrounds,

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Speaker 1: two strikers. You know we're going to deliver, so that

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Speaker 1: would be a lot of fun as well.

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Speaker 6: I think you just you got me a pyod Yan.

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Speaker 6: It feels like that's the right answer, and I shouldn't

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Speaker 6: even give mine. I feel like you should build a

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Speaker 6: BMF title fight around Pyodrian. So, Charles Olavera has fought

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Speaker 6: just two of the baddest motherfuckers, right, And certainly Charles

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Speaker 6: the kinship with Bobby Green and his teammates and his

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Speaker 6: longtime head coach Sam Mason. Right, But Charles Olivera versus

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Speaker 6: Bobby Green, to me, is the BMF title fight that

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Speaker 6: I would put together if I did not have Max

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Speaker 6: Holloway in defense of that particular prize. So Max Holloway,

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Speaker 6: Iliot Topotia, and Cody perhaps you could chase a betting

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Speaker 6: time Brian stan always says to me, the most powerful

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Speaker 6: thing is self belief. When we talk about the NFL

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Speaker 6: called football since twenty fifteen, he feels like a lot

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Speaker 6: And going into Ilio Topoitia's championship fight against Alexander Volkanovski,

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Speaker 6: I just feel like he was perpetually misunderstood by the masses,

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Speaker 6: that they felt like it was cockiness and arrogance, and

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Speaker 6: it really wasn't. It was just like confidence in the skills,

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Speaker 6: self belief in the development and the path. And when

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Speaker 6: you here the Ilio Topoitia talk about finishing Max Holloway already,

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Speaker 6: it's hard not to take him at his words. So

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Speaker 6: Max Holloway, Ilio Topuritia, I actually have prayed for this

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Speaker 6: fight already. This needs to be the next fight. Ilia says,

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Speaker 6: it's going to be the next fight. Kenny who wins

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Speaker 6: that fight?

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Speaker 1: This is such an insane fight. I'd be leaning towards

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Speaker 1: Topuria right And the reason for that is I truly

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Speaker 1: believe it, and I think It's confirmed after that last

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Speaker 1: fight that Max Holloway had against Justin Gagee that his

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Speaker 1: better weight classes one hundred and fifty five pounds. I

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Speaker 6: Because the next UFC fight night, I call I'm going

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Speaker 6: VP of Team Florie. And let's get to the star

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Speaker 6: of the show, the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 5: It's now time for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 4: And I'm going to.

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Speaker 5: Punch a hole in this fucking trip. That's what I

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: What's up? My man just said that a little bit? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Could we get on the barber's schedule this week?

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Speaker 5: That's over next week, next week, next week? All right?

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Speaker 6: What are we doing, Raymond, I, well, a lot of

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Speaker 5: But it's fine, it's good.

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Speaker 6: I remember nineteen ninety nine. I walked in on my

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Speaker 5: Jump in the water is fine.

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Speaker 5: Oh boy, there he goes, He's all you can you

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Speaker 5: He got too hot in the kitchen. He's out.

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Speaker 3: It's just you and me.

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Speaker 4: Ray, It's baby, let's.

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Speaker 5: Shoot the ship, Kenny. That was your weekend.

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Speaker 1: It was good, man. It was pretty good. No fights

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Speaker 1: Did you have a nice break? Did you did you

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Speaker 1: because they're similar fighters. Uh you know, if Loyev's ranked

434
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Speaker 1: pretty high up there, so he has the potential to

435
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Speaker 1: kind of rob that spot.

436
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Speaker 3: What what did you think about that call out?

437
00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,919
Speaker 5: Man? When did he do? First of all, again, that.

438
00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:32,040
Speaker 3: Was just a call out. It was something he was

439
00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:33,440
Speaker 3: kind of asking.

440
00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 5: Because I thought he called out or tega uh what

441
00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 5: I did. But uh, you know, I think Alja wants

442
00:21:41,040 --> 00:21:44,360
Speaker 5: to test the waters and and he's very calculated, He's

443
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 5: very cerebral. He knows how to break down fights and

444
00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,480
Speaker 5: if he calls out somebody, he's seeing something that he

445
00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,320
Speaker 5: thinks he can exploit or you know, whatever day game

446
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,919
Speaker 5: is there not going to be able to implement on him. So, uh,

447
00:21:58,119 --> 00:22:01,040
Speaker 5: you know, I didn't hear the call out. But again,

448
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:04,320
Speaker 5: I'm not social media wise, I've been I'm not I'm

449
00:22:04,359 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 5: not doing too good, So I don't really follow anything

450
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 5: area is he's bad. But but Kenny, you know, I

451
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,400
Speaker 5: would like anything he does.

452
00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 3: You know.

453
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 5: With these guys, I just like to back them. And

454
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 5: you know, they're at a point now where you know,

455
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 5: they know exactly what they're doing and where they want

456
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,720
Speaker 5: to go, and and that's all that matters to me really.

457
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,240
Speaker 5: You know. It's almost like the old saying, like a

458
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,640
Speaker 5: good coach is when you don't they don't need you anymore.

459
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 5: That's the point I'm at. And you know, they just

460
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,560
Speaker 5: have everybody. Look, everybody's you know how to train, you know,

461
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 5: you know what to do. You just got to go

462
00:22:39,560 --> 00:22:41,760
Speaker 5: in and do it. And uh, I think all they

463
00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:43,840
Speaker 5: need is encouragement and somebody to keep them on the

464
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,600
Speaker 5: right track. And you know, when they're down a little bit,

465
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Speaker 5: you know, talk to them and just you know, how

466
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Speaker 5: to keep keep them positive in the direction of what

467
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,600
Speaker 5: dreams they want. That's kind of what I try to

468
00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:56,720
Speaker 5: do at this point, you know. Yeah.

469
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Speaker 6: Well, the beauty of being the former champion, as Aljamaine

470
00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:04,359
Speaker 6: Sterling is is that a lot of contenders are gonna

471
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 6: have an appetite for that fight. I remember talking to

472
00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:10,440
Speaker 6: Trevin Jones before he fought Cody Garbrandt, and he said,

473
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,640
Speaker 6: how many former UFC undisputed VANDAM White champions are there?

474
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:14,000
Speaker 3: Right?

475
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 6: I mean, there aren't that many of those guys, Domina

476
00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 6: Cruz and TJ. Dillashaw and Kildrinan and al Jamaine Sterling

477
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,919
Speaker 6: and Cody and I'm forgetting probably one or two, but

478
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:24,400
Speaker 6: there aren't that many of those guys. So a fight

479
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 6: with movsar I Voyev, I think makes a lot of sense.

480
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 6: And good on Aljoe for wanting that fight, because I

481
00:23:29,160 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 6: do believe and my weight class would probably be flyweight.

482
00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 6: But if I was a featherweight, that would be like

483
00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:36,000
Speaker 6: the last guy I want to fight, right, he would

484
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Speaker 6: expose my cardio to the world.

485
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Speaker 3: Right, I'd be flapping around. I would tap due to strikes.

486
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Speaker 6: It'd be a fucking disaster like raised hair.

487
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Speaker 5: You know. I tell you, well, well, it's not tapping, dude,

488
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:50,760
Speaker 5: to strikes. You might get jabbed and start tapping. That

489
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:52,760
Speaker 5: would be worse, you know, Like.

490
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Speaker 6: You question my toughness, I'll just kidd I'll just kidding

491
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 6: question my studio though, I set off the top of

492
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:02,760
Speaker 6: the show that I was betting on my studio to

493
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 6: make it through the whole show, and no sooner does

494
00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 6: Ray pop on than I lose the studio. But we

495
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 6: got the backup ready to go, so I hope I

496
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:13,000
Speaker 6: am not peeling back the curtain. This wasn't off the record,

497
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 6: but my friend Tyson Chardier, chief of the New England Cartel,

498
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:20,919
Speaker 6: asked me for ray longhost contact information, So without asking

499
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Speaker 6: Ray's permission, I passed along this contact information. And he

500
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Speaker 6: wanted to reach out to you just after the Calvin

501
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 6: Cator fight to see if you had any insight about

502
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 6: Calvin Cater. And I'm not necessarily asking you to give

503
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Speaker 6: us any details of that conversation. I but I know

504
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 6: he was appreciative of your time, and I just thought

505
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Speaker 6: it was a cool thing for an opposing coach to

506
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,280
Speaker 6: want to, you know, pick the brain and the wisdom

507
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Speaker 6: of the legend Raymond Peter Longer.

508
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Speaker 3: You know, that's awesome.

509
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Speaker 5: Yeah. The problem is once they get done picking, they go,

510
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 5: what the fuck is this guy? What am I picking?

511
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,680
Speaker 5: You know, it's like peel it off those Audi choke

512
00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 5: leaves and there's just nothing there when you get that,

513
00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,880
Speaker 5: you know, when a fuck is the heartedy Audi choke.

514
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 5: But I'm going to had a great conversation, heartfelt. Uh

515
00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 5: you know, I think you know, I let him know

516
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 5: that basically all coaches are in the same We're all

517
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,440
Speaker 5: in the same boat. We all go through the same

518
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,600
Speaker 5: things and he's not alone. I think that was comforting

519
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: to him. I'll leave it at that instead. I don't

520
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 5: want to get too deep into what said, but that

521
00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 5: was basically, it seems like, you know, a nice guy.

522
00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 5: I'm always a fan of those guys, you know. I

523
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 5: tell him, I'm I'm a boxing heavy, you know type

524
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 5: of guy. So I love what they're doing. But uh,

525
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 5: it's not easy. We all deal with the same stuff,

526
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 5: you know, people going to the PI. You train a

527
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 5: guy and then he leaves you at the end. I

528
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: mean it's the same type of shit, you know. I

529
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,560
Speaker 5: hope I helped him, but I want to let him

530
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 5: know that I'm no different than him. Basically was the

531
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 5: I think should have been the what he got out

532
00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:55,400
Speaker 5: of the conversation. And you know, to me, loyalty is everything,

533
00:25:56,240 --> 00:26:00,360
Speaker 5: not everything, but you know, smart loyalty and that's it.

534
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 5: But we're we're all going through growing page. You know,

535
00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 5: you could listen to Matt and John Rolow talk on

536
00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:07,679
Speaker 5: Rogan's podcast. I think they hit it out of the

537
00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 5: park with that, you know.

538
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, So one of our listeners, Bruce Marshall, wanted us

539
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:17,679
Speaker 6: to sort of peel back some things with you and

540
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:20,240
Speaker 6: go down memory lane a little bit, and you can

541
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 6: take this really in any direction you want to go,

542
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 6: whether it's reliving a moment with Matt Sarah or Chris Wiman.

543
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,959
Speaker 6: It's just crazy to think that what Chris Wiman did

544
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,360
Speaker 6: against Anderson Silva happened as long ago as it did

545
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 6: right now, as we all just sit here in age

546
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,199
Speaker 6: in this very room right now. But even if it

547
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,800
Speaker 6: was your own journey and how you sort of crossed

548
00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:42,520
Speaker 6: over from boxing to MMA, this week gives us a

549
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,880
Speaker 6: good opportunity to sort of, you know, dive into Ray

550
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,119
Speaker 6: Longo a little bit. So I guess I'll start it

551
00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 6: off by just asking about that Matt Sarah rise, right,

552
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,880
Speaker 6: and that Matt Sarah moment.

553
00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 2: Right.

554
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Speaker 5: Man. I mean, look, John, those days I told it.

555
00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 5: You know, it's funny, man, is that you're bringing that up.

556
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 5: I just went over to I went to see Matt's school.

557
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 5: He got new match that I wanted to watch his

558
00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 5: daughter train. She's unbelievable. Shout out to Angie. She's killing

559
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 5: it on the match. She was doing a wrestling practice

560
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: she does like two days now, so it was good

561
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 5: seeing him. And then yesterday Valante and Widman did a

562
00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,879
Speaker 5: signing at Hofstra, which I thought was fantastic. LT was

563
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 5: there and they stopped by the Slo. So it's funny

564
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 5: you're bringing up memory lane because just even this week,

565
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 5: I don't really get a chance to to run around

566
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 5: that much, you know, because I got routines and it's

567
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 5: hard to break them. But uh, you know, Kenny was

568
00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,159
Speaker 5: asking me what I did. So this week, you know,

569
00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:44,439
Speaker 5: I'm kind of in the down. You know, there's some

570
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,600
Speaker 5: local fights and you know, there's no big fights on

571
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 5: the horizon, so I get to move around and you know,

572
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 5: visit people that are special to me. So Sarah was Look,

573
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 5: Sarah's a unique individual without there is no me. I mean,

574
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:05,119
Speaker 5: we went through the highs and lows together. You know,

575
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 5: we both believed in each other, and you know what

576
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 5: he accomplished against GESP at the time is just you know,

577
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,800
Speaker 5: look it's still today holds weight. You know, it's like

578
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 5: we were listening to I don't know if this will

579
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 5: make sense to you but in the Jim Paranoid came

580
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 5: on by Black Sabbath, I go, dude, I used to

581
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 5: I was a young kid, you know, fucking whatever I

582
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,320
Speaker 5: was doing listening to that music. But when you get

583
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 5: a when you get music that still holds up fifty

584
00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 5: years later, right, and that you know, that's special. And

585
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 5: that's what Sarah Sarah's knockout a gsp'll never never get old,

586
00:28:39,880 --> 00:28:43,360
Speaker 5: and just everything leading up to the fight, and all

587
00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,800
Speaker 5: the doubt and all the criticism, you know, just to

588
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 5: get through that was It seems like that was always

589
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 5: the mantra of the team. Nobody thinks we could do anything,

590
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,200
Speaker 5: but that's what made it special. That's where the loyalty

591
00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 5: comes in. We're still holding on together twenty five thirty

592
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 5: years later, which I think is absolutely phenomenal. I don't

593
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: think many guys could say that. Forget about the champions

594
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: and all of that, just the friendships and you know

595
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: how close the families are and stuff. Right, that's not

596
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,520
Speaker 5: easy either, John, you know so well.

597
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 6: The fact that Chris Watman wants to spend his recreational

598
00:29:16,520 --> 00:29:19,640
Speaker 6: time with you, I just think speaks all right about

599
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 6: the relationship that you guys have so When did you first.

600
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:24,800
Speaker 3: Corner an MMA fighter?

601
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 5: Oh? That would be that was How to Be Sarah?

602
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 3: And what year was that?

603
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 5: Oh? Man, I'm really John, I'm really bailed for years.

604
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,600
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, so I think I so, I think I

605
00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 5: met him in ninety two? When ninety three? I met

606
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 5: him in ninety two? Probably?

607
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah? Wow?

608
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,080
Speaker 5: So probably ninety four ninety.

609
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 6: Five, Cody, can we send Ray a black Sabbath T shirt?

610
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 3: Please? Thank you?

611
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760
Speaker 5: Do you even know the song I'm talking about?

612
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: No?

613
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 5: I don't, Kenny, No, wow, I'm surprised at that.

614
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 6: Kenny and I grew up listening to like hip hop

615
00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:10,760
Speaker 6: and you know, thinking we were tougher than we are

616
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,120
Speaker 6: even Kenny, do I need to get the fucking picture.

617
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: I'll get it what I'm saying.

618
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 5: But I'm saying that the old music still holds the

619
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 5: test of time.

620
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 3: When you go, I grew up, listen is the mischief?

621
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 5: Right? That guy never looked That guy there never listened

622
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 5: to He doesn't know who is. He definitely doesn't know

623
00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 5: who is the Osmoe is. Forget that guy.

624
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 3: It's like, do you guys have frozen? Yogo?

625
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 5: Maybe that guy's more like that guy's more like the

626
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 5: mom is in the poppies back in the day. He

627
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 5: would have been the turtles. He might have been listening

628
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 5: to the turtles.

629
00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 6: Oh Man, Cody's throwing some of these out there. Did

630
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 6: he fight kam Zat Vitayev or Graham Lewis, Jeff Telvideo?

631
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 5: So what years was that?

632
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 6: In two thousand them up? I was nineteen ninety eight,

633
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 6: So essentially you cornered your first MMA fighter sometime at

634
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:02,400
Speaker 6: the midnight nineties, maybe ninety five six, maybe.

635
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: Later, because he probably you know, I was promoting those fights,

636
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 5: so I don't know if I was jumping in the

637
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,280
Speaker 5: corner with him, right. I want to say it was

638
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,000
Speaker 5: one hundred percent training them, But see, I trained him

639
00:31:13,040 --> 00:31:14,800
Speaker 5: for a while, and I don't ah, I mean, you

640
00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 5: have to ask him. I think I trained him and

641
00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 5: wasn't cornering them, you know what I mean. But I

642
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 5: just really wanted to help him out. We were trained together,

643
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 5: we were doing jiu jitsu together, and my thing was

644
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,239
Speaker 5: I thought the tie box and Kenny would be a

645
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: great impact on his cardio and then his you know,

646
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: at the time, I'm not just I'm just saying I

647
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 5: think people were a little lazy and the jiu jitsu

648
00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 5: wasn't as people working out as much as today, so

649
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 5: I thought he'd get a good edge on that, and

650
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 5: his cardio actually went off the charts. And you know,

651
00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 5: like watching that guy as a purple belt was unbelievable.

652
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 5: He really was. His jiu jitsu was absolutely phenomenal. Man,

653
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 5: he met he there's no question about it.

654
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, for any one of the Northeast that got a

655
00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 1: chance to see Matt compete like I saw him compete

656
00:31:59,400 --> 00:32:03,200
Speaker 1: at the Panama right Yeah, and back then, you're talking

657
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 1: late nineties, if you were an American and you beat

658
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: a Brazilian in one match, that was a big deal

659
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: for you to win the whole thing. It was you

660
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 1: were like a unicorn. Even purple belts back then, if

661
00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: you were an American, purple belt was really rare. They're

662
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: just weren't a whole lot of them, and then certainly

663
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,480
Speaker 1: not amazing ones like Matt.

664
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: So he was leading the pack.

665
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 1: He was one of those guys that myself and I

666
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: know a lot of other people were looking up to.

667
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: It's one of the few Americans who were out there

668
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: competing tit for tat with some of the best Brazilians

669
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: in their weight classes.

670
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 3: So it's just crazy.

671
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: But Ray, I think about all the experience that you

672
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 1: have and all the stories that you must have that

673
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 1: you probably recycle it and and kind of remind your

674
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 1: fighters about, like, hey, there's this guy Matt Sarah that

675
00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: a lot of people kind of doubted. Are these stories

676
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: that I kind of propel your fighters?

677
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 3: Now?

678
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,680
Speaker 5: I think they were, But at this point in time,

679
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,840
Speaker 5: I think the younger generation it just and I'm gonna

680
00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 5: say this in the barewy but more self centered and

681
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 5: just now they don't you know, that's you know, it's

682
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 5: almost like your father talking. I used to walk to school.

683
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 5: You know, we paid ten you know, you get to

684
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 5: that point where I'd rather not tell the fucking stories,

685
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 5: you know what I mean, because I'm very aware of

686
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 5: you know, that type. You know, it depends on the

687
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 5: feedback you get. But the stories will never grow old,

688
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:26,920
Speaker 5: and they they you know, if people really listened and

689
00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 5: believed in themselves and believed in their team and did

690
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 5: the right thing. This is what we did, man. And

691
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 5: it was a small group of guys from Long Island

692
00:33:34,520 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 5: that just you know, didn't care what anybody else was saying,

693
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 5: and we believed in it. But you know, Sarah, was.

694
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 5: He was a phenom man with the jiu jitsu A

695
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 5: one hundred percent. What I witnessed is the same thing

696
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 5: I would witness with wide men wrestling the guy, you know,

697
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 5: like you know, it's just they were completely dominant individuals,

698
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 5: both of them. Matt with the jiu jitsu, Wideman with

699
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 5: the wrestling at the time, and you know, white men

700
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 5: had the luxury of you know, we were already progressing.

701
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 5: We knew what was going on. Kenny. You know back

702
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 5: in the day, man, it was on the job training.

703
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 5: Yeah right, everybody was kind of looking at everybody else,

704
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 5: what are they doing? What are we doing? You know,

705
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 5: you had your strength coach was going crazy. Who was

706
00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:25,080
Speaker 5: that guy? Was putting out videos and uh yeah, Burns right,

707
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 5: you know everybody everybody was calling, can I do a

708
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 5: seminar at your gym? But but it was an exciting

709
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 5: period of time. I'm saying if you if you look back,

710
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 5: you know they were pioneers though, and people still I

711
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 5: bet you go back and look at some of Burns's stuff.

712
00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 5: It's it still holds today.

713
00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: Burn with currents Urns.

714
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 6: If you want to fucking flat top, He'll tell you

715
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 6: where to go for one of those burn with currents.

716
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, ought that was it? Yeah, that's it. But

717
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 5: I'm just saying, like everybody, like I'm saying, Kenny, you

718
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 5: were the guy that taught us. Had to be really

719
00:34:57,800 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 5: dave us had to tell us how to make weight

720
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 5: that time. The waterloading I think was was Teddy and

721
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 5: was one of the first, and he actually said don't

722
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 5: tell anybody, Like you know, it's like a like we

723
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,760
Speaker 5: got to keep it a secret.

724
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 3: Let the others die.

725
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 5: It was. I viewed it like an arms race. We

726
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: were always trying to get an edge up. Now it's

727
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 5: different because everything kind of plateaued and you know, all

728
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,719
Speaker 5: comes down to basics. But at that time in everybody

729
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,040
Speaker 5: was learning and and Sarah's stand up really was getting good.

730
00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 5: Then he had a couple of injuries, so you got

731
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,480
Speaker 5: to modify everything. So isn't that cool? Though?

732
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 3: Like we went from like, hey, don't tell anybody this.

733
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: Now you get a coach, you know, the charge the

734
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: Tyson CHARTERI are calling you up and going, hey, what

735
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: do you think can you give me some advice?

736
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 3: That's really cool man, that's all.

737
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, But you remember that, right, if I'm not mistaken,

738
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 5: that was like a big big secret. Nobody. You know,

739
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 5: everybody was looking for information at the time, and that

740
00:35:52,400 --> 00:35:58,320
Speaker 5: was the beautiful part about that. You know, even who's

741
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:02,200
Speaker 5: the guy at extreme you know, I'm blocking Mike Pyle,

742
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 5: you know one time we had a conversation Kenny. At

743
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 5: the beginning, like you'd go to a seminar, they teacher

744
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:08,920
Speaker 5: three moves and then.

745
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:09,239
Speaker 3: That was it.

746
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 5: Then you'd have to go to nothing like you well,

747
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 5: they were keeping it was like a carrot, you know,

748
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:16,839
Speaker 5: like you know, you kept chasing after something. And now

749
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 5: even that's it's all over YouTube, it's all over everything.

750
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 5: But back in the day, it was hard to even

751
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 5: get techniques. There was no Internet, so you had to

752
00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 5: go to seminars, you had to bring guys in. It

753
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 5: was and I think that's what made it special to me,

754
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 5: is you know. I mean, I'm sure there were times

755
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:37,000
Speaker 5: my jiu jitsu was unbelievable against a guy that completely sucked,

756
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 5: you know, but it was a good feeling, you know.

757
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,839
Speaker 5: But now as everything progressed, man, then it became more

758
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 5: attributes and door and strength, you know what I mean.

759
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 5: But back then, if you had a couple of moves,

760
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 5: nobody knew you were crushing people.

761
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 6: First mixed martial arts show I ever attended elite XC

762
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 6: one Destiny February tenth, two thousand and seven, South Haven, Mississippi.

763
00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 6: Pile first MMA fighter, second MMA fighter. I ever met

764
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 6: Hobby Er show. Tom Vazquez was first he competed on that.

765
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,960
Speaker 5: Ye, Hobby was. He was a good jiu jitsu guy. Yeah,

766
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 5: the transition, yeah yeah. But uh, you know, look, there

767
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 5: was a time when Sarah was still at Hanzos with

768
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 5: Hicado and Hadrigo Gracie came in. He was a black belt,

769
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:29,040
Speaker 5: and I think he got done with those two guys,

770
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 5: he took his black belt off and put on a

771
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 5: brown belt. I think they might have been brown belts.

772
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 5: I mean, that's the way it was back then. Imagine

773
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 5: somebody doing that today. These guys get a black belt,

774
00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,120
Speaker 5: their chest is out, they're walking around, it's it's yeah,

775
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,279
Speaker 5: it's not what It's not what it was about back then,

776
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 5: you know what I mean. But that I believe is

777
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,880
Speaker 5: a true story. He took his black belt off and

778
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 5: went back down the brown belt and started training his

779
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 5: ass off with those guys. But that's how good those

780
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 5: guys were as brown belts. They were both of them

781
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 5: were phenomenal. But Sarah, But you gonna remember you got

782
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 5: to talk to Sarah. He did a lot of those

783
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 5: guys would come in and Henzo would have him roll

784
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 5: with him, I mean, not roll with him, actually fight him.

785
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 5: He did you know those uh school matches. I mean,

786
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 5: Sarah was an animal man, he really was. He was pioneer.

787
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 5: And you know he's taking a kind of a different

788
00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:19,359
Speaker 5: path now, but I don't know people did you know

789
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 5: he was? He was? You know, he still wants to fight,

790
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 5: He's still crazy, he's still going. He's I told him

791
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 5: he's actually going to get as killed because I can't

792
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 5: even pick a nickel up off the floor. What am

793
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 5: I doing?

794
00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 6: But I have two other items with you right before

795
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 6: we let you fly. We're also scheduled to be joined

796
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 6: by m M A Fightings, Jose Young's to talk about

797
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 6: this Ryan Garcia and Devin Haney stuff. Where you follow

798
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,879
Speaker 6: on the boxing over the weekend, Raymond.

799
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 5: I mean I followed it. I didn't see it, but

800
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 5: what what was funny about it? Why are you smarting

801
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 5: about that?

802
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 2: No?

803
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,319
Speaker 6: I mean seems to be a win for recreational drugs now,

804
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,319
Speaker 6: I mean, what's this guy?

805
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:03,719
Speaker 5: The guy was over three pounds he's jumping. I mean,

806
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: it's trying to tell you something. And some people could

807
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:10,760
Speaker 5: correct me on this. Back in the day, and nobody

808
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 5: missed weight and boxing. I don't remember a fight getting

809
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: canceled or it might have been far and few in between.

810
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,880
Speaker 5: But this guy three pounds over and then when they

811
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 5: asked him he said, I think he said, well, I

812
00:39:22,520 --> 00:39:25,359
Speaker 5: want to win, you know, like, so he's looking at

813
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:28,719
Speaker 5: us like this is a strategy. Yeah so, and he

814
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:33,279
Speaker 5: probably monetarily did win, which is even crazier. But yeah,

815
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 5: you know, I think.

816
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 3: He paid five hundred thousand per pound that it was over, but.

817
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:39,600
Speaker 5: They still made and still wrote money, you know what

818
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 5: I mean. So yes, I mean I think the commission,

819
00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 5: that's the time the commission has to step in and say,

820
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,920
Speaker 5: you know what, the fight's not happen and this is

821
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 5: what we agreed upon. And you know, because now a

822
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 5: guy could come up with with a million and a

823
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,720
Speaker 5: half and still make money.

824
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, crazy, you know, all right, But.

825
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,399
Speaker 6: I have a final thought with Ray and then we'll

826
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 6: get into the boxing on the other side with my

827
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 6: man Jose So in terms of the b MF belt,

828
00:40:07,239 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 6: right and the conceptuality of it, so when this was

829
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 6: first a thing for Jorge Moscital versus Nate d As, Ray,

830
00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 6: and if you could answer this expeditiously, I would appreciate it.

831
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,800
Speaker 6: What was your initial thought when they announced the BMF

832
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 6: title fight?

833
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:21,600
Speaker 3: Kenny?

834
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 6: I'm coming to you next, but I'll just say for me, initially,

835
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,360
Speaker 6: I was like, eh, you know, these undisputed belts are

836
00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 6: where it's at.

837
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 3: Initially I had trepidation. Ray.

838
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 6: Do you remember where you were at with the BMF

839
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 6: belt when it was first announced.

840
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 5: I don't remember where it was at, but I was

841
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,920
Speaker 5: definitely at the fight ringside, you know what, everybody watching it,

842
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:39,040
Speaker 5: and I thought, were you pro?

843
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 3: Were you conn? Did you give a shit?

844
00:40:41,680 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 7: Uh?

845
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to say I was more pro. I was,

846
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 5: you know, like at the beginning, I didn't really get it,

847
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:50,399
Speaker 5: but I was pro only only only because the two

848
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 5: guys that were fighting I really considered bad motherfuckers. Now,

849
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: if they would have put two other guys in at

850
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 5: the time, I don't think it would have worked. But

851
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 5: I think the inauguration that belt with those two guys

852
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 5: one hundred percent, two legitimate tough guys, badasses. They deserve

853
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:10,799
Speaker 5: that recognition. I was happy to see both of those

854
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:13,040
Speaker 5: guys because they were never champions. I was happy to

855
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 5: see him get recognition I thought they deserved. And now

856
00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 5: it's kind of taken on a life of its own

857
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,800
Speaker 5: where I think people are accepting it, and I think

858
00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 5: just what you saw the other night with Gaetche and

859
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 5: Holloway is that man, people are really going to go

860
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,439
Speaker 5: in and it kind of means something like they're not doing.

861
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 5: It's not like old timers day at the bullpockets. Two

862
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 5: guys that are going to they really believe in that

863
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 5: belt and they're fighting like it. So I think it's

864
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 5: a good thing, especially for the guys that never become champion.

865
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 5: I never got that shot, you know.

866
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 6: Yeah, Canflow. Do you remember how you felt about the

867
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 6: BMF belt in that first indoctrination when it was announced.

868
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:52,000
Speaker 3: I do.

869
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 1: I thought both guys were certainly worthy of it. I

870
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: remember kind of seeing it as very gimmicky back then,

871
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: But I think my perspective has certainly changed now in

872
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, where I think it's a huge benefit

873
00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 1: to the fighters that are maybe non title holders and

874
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 1: guys who maybe have had a style that maybe didn't

875
00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: lend itself to make a title run and a title win,

876
00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 1: and it kind of celebrates those dudes who will fight

877
00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: anybody anytime, that kind of deal, and it gives them

878
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,720
Speaker 1: kind of a nice belt without being a title holder.

879
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:28,960
Speaker 1: So I kind of like it just because it's a

880
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:30,760
Speaker 1: huge benefit to the fighters themselves.

881
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 6: Yeah, I have totally come around on it. I actually

882
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,720
Speaker 6: would go so far as to say, this sport needs

883
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,839
Speaker 6: the ability to crown like the baddest motherfucker or too

884
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 6: in it, And what a great opportunity for these athletes

885
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 6: to be able to compete for it real long ago.

886
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, one of the things I'll let you go, but

887
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 5: you know, talking about Ben motherfucker is what I was

888
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 5: in Vegas for al Jo's fight. I had the pleasure

889
00:42:57,000 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: of running into BJ Penn, one of the old time greats,

890
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 5: And speaking of bad motherfuckers, that's another guy back in

891
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,799
Speaker 5: the day that I would have loved to have seen

892
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 5: fight for that belt because you know, like he's he's

893
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 5: at the PI. I'm introduced to him, because the guy

894
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 5: deserves all the credit in the world. But when I

895
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 5: tell people, this guy fought Macheetah in Japan at two

896
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 5: oh five, But what dude that's in hevyweight heavyweight and

897
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 5: you look at him now, you got to fuck did

898
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 5: he do that? Macheetah's not a joke, So he's another

899
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 5: bad motherfucker that that like when you get the right

900
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 5: guys with the right mindset. I think it brings credibility

901
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 5: to that belt, and I think so far they're doing

902
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 5: a great job with it. But BJ was a guy

903
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,600
Speaker 5: you could see back in the day that would have

904
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,719
Speaker 5: been out there, that would have been outstanding watching him fight,

905
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:47,200
Speaker 5: you know, for the bad motherfucker belt, because that's a

906
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 5: bad motherfucker and he's a pioneer and he did so

907
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 5: much for the game. Hats off to BJ Pennho was

908
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 5: great catching up with him as it always is.

909
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 6: The prodigy. BJ Penn one of the all time greats.

910
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:00,360
Speaker 6: Fuck can't float you c one?

911
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: Oh one?

912
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 6: Really wish we got that one home can flow. But

913
00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 6: that's a conversation another day. Hey, Ray long Gos MMA,

914
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 6: if you're in the Greater Long Island area and you

915
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 6: need mixed martial arts training, you go to long Go's

916
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,280
Speaker 6: MM A best manager in the game.

917
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:19,959
Speaker 3: Great, get the funk out of it, buddy.

918
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 6: That was really an inspiring Ray long Goo minute trip

919
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 6: down memory lane at Ray Longo mm A or something

920
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640
Speaker 6: like that. Get a haircut please for next next week.

921
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 5: Shaved up and had cut it in. I'll make you

922
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:35,319
Speaker 5: happy next week. Okay, take it ease.

923
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:35,839
Speaker 2: There is.

924
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Speaker 6: Here on the Anti Comploring Podcast homework for our antik

925
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Speaker 6: imploring podcast listeners. Do you remember the Saturday Night Live

926
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Speaker 6: skin and I'm not bringing this up because Longo had

927
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Speaker 6: too much coal brew today? Remember the British toothpaste Headley

928
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Speaker 6: and Weish, Chris Farley and Phil Hartman. May they rest

929
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Speaker 6: in peace. Phil Hartman comes on, he says it's the

930
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Speaker 6: only toothpaste I have a use. Headley and weish the

931
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Speaker 6: British tooth Google the skit.

932
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Speaker 3: You'll thank me.

933
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Speaker 6: On the other side, all right, I believe we have

934
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Speaker 6: my good friend on the guest line now Mixed Martial

935
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 6: Arts and boxing reporter, and he is now in the

936
00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 6: Eastern Standard time zone repping the Boston Red Sox. I

937
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,799
Speaker 6: hope that's not like an old school Brooklyn Dodgers.

938
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 2: Now Red Sox for life? Doog you know it?

939
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,320
Speaker 6: MMA Fighting dot com zone. Jose Young's on social media

940
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,719
Speaker 6: at Jose Young's don't forget the s my man.

941
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:24,600
Speaker 3: It's great to see.

942
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,359
Speaker 6: How we liking being on the East Coast and out

943
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 6: of Arizona.

944
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,880
Speaker 2: Uh, it's great right now, It's we've got that weird

945
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:34,880
Speaker 2: between spring and fall where it's like the leaves are

946
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 2: still sort of orange but the sun is out. But

947
00:45:37,239 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: I tell you, when I landed the second day I

948
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,640
Speaker 2: was in New York, it just snowed, so I was like,

949
00:45:41,719 --> 00:45:43,800
Speaker 2: a miss didn't miss this at all, and then it

950
00:45:43,960 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 2: just is gray and dreary, So didn't miss January February.

951
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 2: But right now this is my favorite time of the

952
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:50,919
Speaker 2: euro up in the East Coast.

953
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 6: Well, Kenny, if you don't know Jose's fiance or girlfriend,

954
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 6: I guess girlfriend girl friend. Jesus John is an incredible

955
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 6: restaurant tour and they have just moved back to h

956
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 6: to New York from Arizona. So this dude used to

957
00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 6: watch The Red House at four o'clock in the afternoon

958
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 6: and now he's a beast.

959
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, not ideal, and my first.

960
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 3: John, give him some space, dude, give him some time.

961
00:46:13,640 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 2: It never got to convert, and I forgot how awful

962
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: it is watching UFC pay per views on the Eastern time. Yeah,

963
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 2: because my first week I was moving in was the

964
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 2: Anaheim fight. Car didn't go to the Ilia Volkanoski fight,

965
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,000
Speaker 2: and I was working and I looked at him like,

966
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 2: it's four in the morning on a sunlight, like this

967
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,399
Speaker 2: is awful? Why did I did I ever come back here?

968
00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:35,760
Speaker 3: Not ideal?

969
00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 6: So there is one convenience for you, though, as someone

970
00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,520
Speaker 6: who covers combat sports, not unlike me and South Florida

971
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 6: a little out of sight, out of mind. Not a

972
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:46,720
Speaker 6: ton of things going through Arizona. Certainly some big shows

973
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 6: in Phoenix here and there, but you were able to

974
00:46:49,840 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 6: travel on foot to a lot of these events. Over

975
00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 6: the weekend. Devin Haney and Ryan Garcia was in Brooklyn, right.

976
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:57,680
Speaker 2: M hmm about Jenny if I med a train ride.

977
00:46:57,560 --> 00:47:00,840
Speaker 6: So professionally speaking, this has got to be somewhat of

978
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,720
Speaker 6: a blessing, even if in disguise.

979
00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:05,240
Speaker 2: It was pretty great going from a media day straight

980
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: back to my own living room to work and edit

981
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:10,279
Speaker 2: video on my own internet and not using you know,

982
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:14,439
Speaker 2: Hilton Honors Wi Fi to try to upload forty minute

983
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:15,240
Speaker 2: press conferences.

984
00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,919
Speaker 6: That's for sure, all right, So we've got a few

985
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 6: minutes with jose Young's I want to get into this

986
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,440
Speaker 6: boxing over the weekend, Ryan Garcia defeats Devin Haney by

987
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 6: majority decision. I don't really even know where to begin.

988
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I know a lot of people were racing

989
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 6: to bet the other side and potentially get a good

990
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 6: price on a proposition. Ryan Garcia closed plus five hundred.

991
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 6: I said to Ray, maybe this is a win for

992
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:42,719
Speaker 6: recreational drugs. He drank a beer on the scale. Where

993
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 6: would you lead off? When it comes to all that

994
00:47:45,800 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 6: happened this weekend?

995
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 2: This was the it was out Because I've been covering

996
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,319
Speaker 2: MMA for about ten years. I've covered, you know, a

997
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 2: handful of boxing events. I've covered covered Canelo, the Mayweather,

998
00:47:57,200 --> 00:48:01,360
Speaker 2: Pac Yale may Mac and everything. But whatever, for whatever reason,

999
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia has kind of captivated the like the masses,

1000
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,800
Speaker 2: Like I feel like he has He's boxing's version of

1001
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley where I have a lot of fan friends

1002
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,200
Speaker 2: that don't watch boxing, but they were all dming me

1003
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 2: like what's up with this Ryan Garcia kid like drinking

1004
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 2: beer and you know, going on Twitter spaces while he's

1005
00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: driving to the ways, talking about like the Illuminati and

1006
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:27,279
Speaker 2: just acting, you know, acting off. And a lot of

1007
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:29,520
Speaker 2: people were like, oh, why would they sanction this? Why

1008
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: are they why would they allow this to happen. You know,

1009
00:48:31,360 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: missus Weige by three point two pounds, chugs the beer

1010
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,880
Speaker 2: on on stage, which I guess he says was actually

1011
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 2: sparkling cider and water or something like that. So I

1012
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 2: thought that I thought he was gonna get melted. I'm

1013
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 2: not gonna lie. I thought Devin Hanny was going to

1014
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 2: turn him off. And then the first punch of the fight,

1015
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,880
Speaker 2: Devin Hanes stumbles backwards and I was like, oh, Ryan

1016
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,200
Speaker 2: is a maniac that just happens to be a fantastic fistfighter.

1017
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:59,520
Speaker 2: So it was the Ryan Garcia show all the way through.

1018
00:49:00,040 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 2: His numbers, didn't you know on our website didn't match

1019
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: three hundred. But in terms of boxing, this because this

1020
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,399
Speaker 2: was also the week of the diz Masvidal like press tour.

1021
00:49:10,200 --> 00:49:14,239
Speaker 2: Anything we posted about Ryan Garcia dwarfed Nyan Jorge, which

1022
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 2: is surprising on an MMA site. So Ryan Garcia, for

1023
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 2: whatever reason, whether if it's as crazy antics or his

1024
00:49:22,040 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 2: tiktoks or whatever, like whatever it is, people are interested.

1025
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,279
Speaker 2: He is an incredible prize fighter that happens to be

1026
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 2: also a very talented boxer.

1027
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,640
Speaker 1: So, hose do you think this is kind of very

1028
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: much calculated on the part of Ryan Garcia, where he's

1029
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:41,279
Speaker 1: kind of upping that personality and that drama a little

1030
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 1: bit to get more interest from the fans. And also

1031
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: was it kind of a Sun South thing to kind

1032
00:49:46,239 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: of let Devin Haney let his guard down.

1033
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 5: I don't know.

1034
00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 2: And that's the thing. I don't know if Ryan Garcia

1035
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 2: is just a phenomenal actor or this is all actually

1036
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 2: things happening in his life. Because if you watch that,

1037
00:49:58,120 --> 00:49:59,799
Speaker 2: I saw it, like I heard you guys talking about

1038
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 2: it a little bit with Ray Longo, the bet that

1039
00:50:02,080 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: they made, like the five hundred thousand dollars per pounds,

1040
00:50:05,000 --> 00:50:08,120
Speaker 2: if you if the camera had the split screen of them,

1041
00:50:08,520 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 2: of the two of them making that handshake agreement, and

1042
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:12,760
Speaker 2: Ryan's kind of talking to his dad at the same time,

1043
00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 2: if you were there and if you could pan out,

1044
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,640
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia's dad is pleading with him, like, do not

1045
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,600
Speaker 2: make this bet because he knows he's about to miss weight,

1046
00:50:21,080 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: Like he knows he's not gonna make hard for him, right.

1047
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: He's just like Ryan, just like don't do it. And

1048
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,440
Speaker 2: Ryan's like, yeah, Dad, I got you. And then he

1049
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: turns around and goes, all right, you're on. So he

1050
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,280
Speaker 2: showed up at here's another like they did a face

1051
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 2: off on the top of the Empire State Building on Tuesday, right.

1052
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:37,879
Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys have been on top

1053
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,719
Speaker 2: of the Empire State Building. It is incredibly windy and

1054
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:45,520
Speaker 2: cold in April. And Ryan shows up shirtless, in ripped

1055
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 2: pants and a backpack on, like a combat backpack, and

1056
00:50:48,920 --> 00:50:52,320
Speaker 2: he's pacing around and one of the boxing media just goes, Ryan,

1057
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:55,080
Speaker 2: you cold, and he goes human beings have the ability

1058
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,680
Speaker 2: to warm themselves whenever they want, just by flexing. And

1059
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 2: then he just flexes and he goes, I'm good, I

1060
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 2: just set I reset my body te machean. I'm like, hey, man,

1061
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:05,920
Speaker 2: whatever works for you, people are interested in it.

1062
00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:09,680
Speaker 3: I love it. Man, he's releasing the crazy dude.

1063
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: So this left hook, you know, it's one of those

1064
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,200
Speaker 1: things you know is coming and you can't stop it.

1065
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 3: You know. It was round one, round seven, round ten, uh,

1066
00:51:19,239 --> 00:51:20,440
Speaker 3: you know, a round eleven.

1067
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,399
Speaker 1: I believe the left hook played a part in all

1068
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:26,080
Speaker 1: of those times where he heard him or dropped him.

1069
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:29,640
Speaker 1: Is this one of the most powerful singular weapons in

1070
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: boxing right now?

1071
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 2: I think in this weight class for sure. I think

1072
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:36,080
Speaker 2: not to say and also not for nothing. Like Devin

1073
00:51:36,120 --> 00:51:38,640
Speaker 2: Haney a long time for when he would fall lower

1074
00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 2: weight class, was kind of viewed as a weight bully,

1075
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:42,440
Speaker 2: like he would just be bigger than his guys. He

1076
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 2: wasn't melting them, he was just physically bigger and was

1077
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 2: just more technically a gifted boxer, So he was fighting

1078
00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 2: a guy that could match his power and speedbub Ryan

1079
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 2: is just a slightly bigger guy, and Devin looks like

1080
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,120
Speaker 2: the smaller guy in there. And Ryan, even before he

1081
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 2: was this crazy like manic person on the prescomm's and everything,

1082
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,040
Speaker 2: he would post these lightning like him hitting mits in

1083
00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 2: his living room with his dad. So if you've been

1084
00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,680
Speaker 2: watching boxing, that's been his bread and butter his whole

1085
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 2: career is that left hook around and he caught Devin

1086
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: with it once and then I don't know, if you

1087
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:17,160
Speaker 2: guys are watching, like Kenny, you've obviously trained more martial

1088
00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 2: arts than us, But I just felt like Devin just

1089
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 2: forgot how to jab after the third round, because he

1090
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,000
Speaker 2: would land two jabs and it would push Ryan back

1091
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 2: and Ryan would kind of do that shell up right,

1092
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: and then he just stopped doing it. I felt like

1093
00:52:29,760 --> 00:52:32,319
Speaker 2: if Devin like stayed on the jab on the jab,

1094
00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: on the jab, and I don't know if he was

1095
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,560
Speaker 2: rocked or the booing was getting to him or whatever,

1096
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,280
Speaker 2: but he just just gave up on what was working.

1097
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure he was the same at what

1098
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:42,239
Speaker 1: He got hurt after round what I think it threw

1099
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:42,640
Speaker 1: him off.

1100
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so Devin, I'm not taking anything away from

1101
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,080
Speaker 2: what Ryan did. Devon was fighting a bigger guy. Ryan

1102
00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 2: is also just a supremely gifted boxing like he's crazy.

1103
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 2: He looks he's a handsome kid, and people just don't

1104
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:01,240
Speaker 2: take him seriously. But he's been also, let's not forget

1105
00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,479
Speaker 2: him and Devin fought six times on the amateur scene.

1106
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:06,479
Speaker 2: They're three and three, so Ryan knows how to beat

1107
00:53:06,560 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 2: Devin Haney and he was just the bigger guy that

1108
00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:12,240
Speaker 2: stopped cutting weight. So yeah, I mean there's white class

1109
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 2: for a reason.

1110
00:53:13,400 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 6: Cose youngs will us here on the anakanmplorent podcast. So

1111
00:53:15,680 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 6: how do you handicap a potential rematch? I mean, I

1112
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:21,800
Speaker 6: know there's the Drewvontae Davis fight, potentially the lone blemish

1113
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 6: for Ryan Garcia. I am no boxing experts, certainly not

1114
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 6: in this current form. But I see minus seven hundred

1115
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,839
Speaker 6: next to Devin Haney in the first meeting as pros, right.

1116
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 6: I mean, what's happening is is Ryan Garcia favorite in

1117
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 6: the rematch or what?

1118
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 5: I think?

1119
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,400
Speaker 2: It would really have to depend on if they can

1120
00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: figure out what way classes this is going to be.

1121
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: Because Ryan is on like one three point two is

1122
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 2: missing by three point three pounds is no joke. And

1123
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 2: Ryan has said his body just physically can't get to

1124
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:53,200
Speaker 2: one forty He's like, I can only fight as low

1125
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: as one forty three. Devin still technically has the belt,

1126
00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: which is like the WBC just kind of rewriting the rules.

1127
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,479
Speaker 2: The belt should be vacant at this point. Devin Haney

1128
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 2: should not be the writing WBC champion. If they fight

1129
00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: at one forty three five, I would have to imagine

1130
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia should be a massive thing because like he's

1131
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: just bigger, He's just physically bigger, and he's as fast

1132
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:18,400
Speaker 2: as Devon because Devin, like after he dropped him in

1133
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,800
Speaker 2: like those first few rounds, when you watch that chunk

1134
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:25,719
Speaker 2: of like rounds three through six, Devin is piecing him up.

1135
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,799
Speaker 2: He is just the more technically gifted boxer. And then

1136
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Garcia would take a playbook out of Yol Romero

1137
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,640
Speaker 2: and explode for four seconds and do all of the

1138
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: damage and just erase everything Devin did. Yeah, so it's

1139
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:41,239
Speaker 2: it's if it's one forty, I don't I would have

1140
00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:43,719
Speaker 2: to favor Devon because Ryan is just can't do it.

1141
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure he saw that there's a side by side

1142
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 2: of the fight against Javonte and the fight against Tank,

1143
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 2: and it is. It's pretty terrifying him gettingto one thirty

1144
00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: five seven.

1145
00:54:54,600 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 6: All right, real quick before we let you go. I

1146
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 6: know you're a Boston Red Sox fan. They just swept

1147
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 6: the Pittsburgh Pirate. I lost, Yeah, three figures every day

1148
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,399
Speaker 6: now the Pirates. No, I'm betting against the Red Sox.

1149
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 6: They're thirteen and ten. You think this outfit finishes above

1150
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 6: five hundred or no.

1151
00:55:10,760 --> 00:55:15,320
Speaker 2: If depends on if devs how long Devers is on

1152
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 2: the eye out, and it depends on Casses is just

1153
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,640
Speaker 2: getting examined on his back. If Cass and Devers are

1154
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 2: out through May through June, no chance, not a chance.

1155
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:28,120
Speaker 2: With story out, BeO is lighting it up and Pavetta's hurt.

1156
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: Like our starting nine, we have maybe three people left

1157
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: from our original lineup not looking great. I'm hoping for

1158
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:37,160
Speaker 2: just a high DRAFTIC.

1159
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:37,399
Speaker 3: At this point.

1160
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, No, they're going under, all right, I'm gonna bet

1161
00:55:40,560 --> 00:55:43,279
Speaker 6: against it every day. Let you go tell me which

1162
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 6: is more likely in twenty twenty four that we get

1163
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 6: one fight out of John Jones, right, at least one

1164
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 6: or two out of Connor mcgreg.

1165
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 2: Wow, what's more likely? I think John Jones, Right. I've

1166
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:01,399
Speaker 2: given up trying to figure out McGregor. That's like trying

1167
00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,319
Speaker 2: to figure out Ryan Garcia's next MOE. It's just not

1168
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:03,759
Speaker 2: going to happen.

1169
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 6: I wonder how much Connor McGregor's fighting future, at least

1170
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:11,959
Speaker 6: in terms of a regular active competition cycle, is really

1171
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:14,640
Speaker 6: rooted in this result, because if he beats Chandler, if

1172
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:17,799
Speaker 6: he gets a win over a rank lightweight, even if

1173
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 6: this fight happens at welterweight, it potentially opens up on

1174
00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 6: DISPEEDA championship possibilities for Connor fifty five and seventy. And

1175
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 6: I do think if he gets through cleanly, which he

1176
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:27,879
Speaker 6: was trying to do when he broke his fucking leg

1177
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,080
Speaker 6: against Us and Pourier, that he's going to try to

1178
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 6: spin this thing back around. So I'm hopeful we'll see

1179
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 6: John Jones and Madison Square Garden and NOVEMPA. But you

1180
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,560
Speaker 6: know it's April twenty second, man, you know ippen off

1181
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 6: the calendar.

1182
00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: I think the only thing that would play a big

1183
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: factor in Connor not being as active as his contract situation.

1184
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: I don't know how many fights he has left. If

1185
00:56:48,560 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 2: they're trying to get him to resign or for whatever

1186
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 2: reason they might, you know how it works, they might

1187
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,120
Speaker 2: try to hold him a bit longer. But if he

1188
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,040
Speaker 2: has like an eight fight deal left, or he re

1189
00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: signs mysteriously, he might just plow through it. You know what,

1190
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,799
Speaker 2: Max to the BMF, get try to get the Nay

1191
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,880
Speaker 2: trilogy back after the whore, Hey, flight, I have no

1192
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 2: idea honor is an enigmace to me.

1193
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 6: Well, hopefully MMA fighting is extending you Jose Young's outstanding

1194
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 6: job over the weekend at Jose Young's. Don't forget the

1195
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,280
Speaker 6: s on both Instagram and on X Buddy, we appreciate

1196
00:57:14,320 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 6: you hopping on and uh, I guess go Red Sox.

1197
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 2: You know, go Red Sox baby, even though they're terrible,

1198
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,000
Speaker 2: I hope they win every game, but I still want

1199
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: that high draft pick.

1200
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,080
Speaker 3: There you go, Hey, thanks buddy, We appreciate you.

1201
00:57:24,080 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 5: Thank you.

1202
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 6: Jose Young's with us on the Anakin floor and podcast.

1203
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 6: Yeah that Ryan Garcia Devin Haney stuff capturing the attention

1204
00:57:31,720 --> 00:57:34,080
Speaker 6: of most everybody in the combat sports world over the weekend,

1205
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 6: including Kenflow.

1206
00:57:35,080 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 3: You know, yeah, dude, listen. Uh interesting.

1207
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,120
Speaker 1: Ryan Garcia at one point mentioned having a little sit

1208
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:44,080
Speaker 1: down and hang out with Nate Diez and he was

1209
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 1: talking about how smart Nate is and promoting and all

1210
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: that stuff, and how he learned a lot from talking

1211
00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,480
Speaker 1: to him, and I wonder if he picked up some tips.

1212
00:57:53,160 --> 00:57:53,880
Speaker 3: And tricks from that.

1213
00:57:54,360 --> 00:57:57,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, well we are going to spin it forward.

1214
00:57:57,480 --> 00:58:01,520
Speaker 6: The UFC was dark on four twenty, but they will

1215
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:03,640
Speaker 6: not be dark on April twenty seventh. That is UFC

1216
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,120
Speaker 6: Fight Night, Nicolau versus Perez. It is time for the

1217
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:08,480
Speaker 6: main event Challenge, and for that exercise, we welcome on

1218
00:58:08,520 --> 00:58:14,439
Speaker 6: our good friend at Brian Petrie MMA, Big Gun. Brian Petree.

1219
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:18,160
Speaker 6: Absence makes the heart grow fonder. We talked to you

1220
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 6: after UFC three hundreds, so I will admit.

1221
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:22,440
Speaker 3: To missing you a little bit.

1222
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 6: As we see out of converse today, how are we

1223
00:58:24,040 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 6: doing doing fantastic?

1224
00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 4: How you boys doing We're.

1225
00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 3: Good, dude, We're doing pretty well, buddy. How was the

1226
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: weekend with the children?

1227
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 4: Okay, it was good. Yeah. So we we have this

1228
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 4: amusement park in Society called King's Island on as you

1229
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 4: guys ever heard of it. It's fantastic. We bought season

1230
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 4: passes this year for the kids and we drove up,

1231
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,800
Speaker 4: made a day of it. They opened this weekend on

1232
00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 4: Sunday and we get there and we walk in, we

1233
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 4: give them our passes, and some insurance company about the

1234
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 4: whole park so we couldn't go. So yeah, that was

1235
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:54,480
Speaker 4: a kick in the kick in the old dick. But

1236
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:57,240
Speaker 4: besides that, it was good out to bride the kids

1237
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,960
Speaker 4: with toys whether or not. Nice relaxing weekend, which can

1238
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 4: can't complain.

1239
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 3: I was hoping he said that No.

1240
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:06,000
Speaker 6: Sooner does he get in line than somebody asks him

1241
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 6: as the chief handicapper.

1242
00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,120
Speaker 3: Well, a lot of people.

1243
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:13,760
Speaker 6: Asking about Brian Pechew and Ken Flow and I were

1244
00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 6: in Las Vegas, so all right, so we got a

1245
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 6: pronunciation of the week for you. And then I do

1246
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,680
Speaker 6: have another Brazilian name file later in the program. That's

1247
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 6: a tease, okay, because I just can't wait to hear

1248
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:26,560
Speaker 6: Brian take a shot at that one. But our pronunciation

1249
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 6: of the week is a fighter who is in the

1250
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 6: co main event this coming weekend. He's coming off a

1251
00:59:32,040 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 6: bonus winning knockout of Zacha. Earlier this year, he lost

1252
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,760
Speaker 6: to Volkastamir on his UFC debut. Yes, and we would

1253
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 6: love to hear you pronounce this dude's name. I think

1254
00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 6: the first name is like Bogden or something, Brian, what

1255
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 6: are we working with?

1256
00:59:46,280 --> 00:59:49,400
Speaker 4: That's that's how I pronounce his first name, Bogden. Goose

1257
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,000
Speaker 4: Cove is what I'm going to go. It's probably Cauugh

1258
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:54,919
Speaker 4: because he's you know, but I'm gonna go goose Cove.

1259
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:55,520
Speaker 3: All right.

1260
00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 6: So I played my daughter this file and then had

1261
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 6: her mimic it, and she was able to perfectly pronounce

1262
01:00:00,920 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 6: this name. And what you need to listen for is

1263
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:06,400
Speaker 6: that he emphasizes the second syllable in both his first

1264
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:07,760
Speaker 6: and his last name.

1265
01:00:08,040 --> 01:00:09,560
Speaker 3: Cody Bone Marrow, take it away.

1266
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:17,040
Speaker 7: My name is Bagdan, Saidrevi Gushkov, Bagdan Saiderevi Gushkov.

1267
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:23,120
Speaker 3: Guskov, Buggan, bug Don, goose Cove.

1268
01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 6: All right, all right, fellas, we're going to make some

1269
01:00:25,960 --> 01:00:28,080
Speaker 6: picks here in the main event challenge for the UFC

1270
01:00:28,120 --> 01:00:30,680
Speaker 6: Fight Night, and then on the back end, I will

1271
01:00:30,680 --> 01:00:32,840
Speaker 6: tell you how you did at UFC three hundred and

1272
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,720
Speaker 6: we will place our bets for UFC Fight Night Nikolau

1273
01:00:35,800 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 6: versus Perez main card opener in the welterweight division. Former

1274
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,480
Speaker 6: Pronunciation of the Week featured name Udosh Metitz. The Doctor

1275
01:00:45,560 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 6: is minus three ten taken on Tim mean to his

1276
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,720
Speaker 6: plus two fifty, so metis three and two in the

1277
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 6: UFC overall bid on even In twenty twenty three, Brian

1278
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:57,040
Speaker 6: closed out the year with a submission loss. Odds maker's

1279
01:00:57,120 --> 01:00:59,560
Speaker 6: suggestive of the fact that he should win here north

1280
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 6: of three one, but I'd be careful counting now. Tim

1281
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,800
Speaker 6: means business. He is a man, he is forty, He's

1282
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,600
Speaker 6: coming off a STOPAE win over Andre Filio last September.

1283
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:10,680
Speaker 6: You actually start number twenty nine bride for Timmy means

1284
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,920
Speaker 6: what are your thoughts on him here against the Doctor

1285
01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 6: urosch Meditch real quick.

1286
01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 4: I gotta take this hat off because I was trying

1287
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 4: to hiding my hair from old Johnny because I knew

1288
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 4: Johnny was gonna hammer me. I literally grabbed the hat

1289
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:24,240
Speaker 4: right through a dollar I have too much hair fucking

1290
01:01:24,360 --> 01:01:25,040
Speaker 4: was making me itch.

1291
01:01:25,040 --> 01:01:27,800
Speaker 3: Anyway, let's get to like Sonic the headshot this week.

1292
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 4: My wife he's asking me to cut it too, and

1293
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 4: I'm like, well we will anyway. I love this fight.

1294
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 4: This is almost like a passing of the torch because

1295
01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,560
Speaker 4: I see a lot of medics into or Tim Means,

1296
01:01:38,600 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 4: and a lot of metal. You know, they're similar to

1297
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:44,280
Speaker 4: Long for the division. They're tough, they're they're they're scrappy,

1298
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 4: and they're a little both inconsistent. You know, Mesic is

1299
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,040
Speaker 4: coming off. You know, he got he got beat up

1300
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,760
Speaker 4: by that beast from Kyrgus stand. I might not even

1301
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 4: gonna try to pronounce the name Rain into a hammer, right,

1302
01:01:54,280 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 4: Rain into a hammer.

1303
01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:55,400
Speaker 5: But that's okay.

1304
01:01:55,480 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 4: Besides that, he's looked pretty good against Selmsburger. Come back

1305
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,760
Speaker 4: when he's got some spinning shit with him and Tim Means.

1306
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 4: This dude's gonna be fighting til he's sixty. He loves it.

1307
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:06,080
Speaker 4: He's an animal in there right great in the clinch,

1308
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:09,000
Speaker 4: has some good chokes, but he's forty. He is a man.

1309
01:02:09,080 --> 01:02:11,560
Speaker 4: He is forty. This is a guy that spent a

1310
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 4: lot of his career at one fifty five. Now he's

1311
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:14,919
Speaker 4: at one seventy, which I think is good for his body.

1312
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:17,800
Speaker 4: But I just think Metas is the younger, better fighter,

1313
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 4: and I think he's gonna put it on Tim Means.

1314
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna be fun. Why at last, I

1315
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 4: like to finish by medic and yeah, we're walking with that.

1316
01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 4: I'm a little afraid of the number because the inconsistency

1317
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 4: with them, but I'm willing to play it a little bit.

1318
01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 6: Can flow Udo Schmitz minus three ten on DraftKings Sportsbook,

1319
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,240
Speaker 6: Tim Means Business plus two fifty.

1320
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 3: Who do you love?

1321
01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think VP nail that. I think they are

1322
01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:43,280
Speaker 1: very similar to tall, lanky strikers. I see Medicic really

1323
01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:48,000
Speaker 1: struggling more with that pure grappler type style, and Tim

1324
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:50,800
Speaker 1: Means is not that. I think he wants to stand

1325
01:02:50,880 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 1: up in trade and they'll exchange in the.

1326
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 4: Clinch a little bit.

1327
01:02:53,840 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 1: But I don't think either of these guys are necessarily

1328
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: kind of looking to take it to the ground immediately.

1329
01:02:58,800 --> 01:03:00,240
Speaker 3: Maybe if it ends up there on.

1330
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,800
Speaker 1: A knockdown or maybe a trip or something like that,

1331
01:03:02,840 --> 01:03:05,959
Speaker 1: but I think these guys want to stand up and banging. Yeah,

1332
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,640
Speaker 1: it's tough with Means being in the game for as

1333
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,480
Speaker 1: long as he have. You know, this is a fifty

1334
01:03:10,520 --> 01:03:13,160
Speaker 1: fight veteran we're talking about here, and you know, one

1335
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,360
Speaker 1: in three in his last four fights, as opposed to

1336
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: you know what, three and two and last five fights

1337
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 1: for metic. I think Medich is poised for the win

1338
01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:25,920
Speaker 1: here and I like him because of it.

1339
01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:30,120
Speaker 6: All Right, next main card matchup at featherweight. This should

1340
01:03:30,160 --> 01:03:32,959
Speaker 6: be a good one, fellas. Jonathan pis minus one eighty

1341
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 6: five David o'ama plus one fifty four, So jsp sort

1342
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,400
Speaker 6: of the forgotten man, right, He had won five in

1343
01:03:39,480 --> 01:03:42,400
Speaker 6: a row before he got ninja choked by Joe Anderson Brito.

1344
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 6: That was late last year and now still thirty one

1345
01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,680
Speaker 6: years of age. The Johnson City, Tennessee product faces off

1346
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 6: with Factory x's David Oama. He actually hasn't fought ry

1347
01:03:51,720 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 6: since that bonus winning knockout of Gabrielle Santos all the

1348
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 6: way back in June of twenty three in Jacksonville, Florida.

1349
01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 6: So sneaky, big fight at one forty five. Either guy

1350
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,880
Speaker 6: ranked Jonathan Pierce David o'nama, Bryan Patree, Who do you like?

1351
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,720
Speaker 4: Jonathan Pierce? Got a little cocky last time out. Huh

1352
01:04:06,760 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 4: he was he was bag he's they're talking shit with Britto.

1353
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 4: He's like stand up, stand up, and he got choked out,

1354
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,600
Speaker 4: you know. H you know, I think that's a good

1355
01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 4: reset for him.

1356
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:14,920
Speaker 3: I think he's a dog.

1357
01:04:15,000 --> 01:04:18,440
Speaker 4: I think he's an intense grappler. Stand up me's a

1358
01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 4: lot of work, but he's durable, he's tough, he gets

1359
01:04:20,440 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 4: after it in his cardio is elite. David Oama, I

1360
01:04:25,120 --> 01:04:27,840
Speaker 4: was highing this guy and then Nate the Train, Baby,

1361
01:04:27,840 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 4: he just took him to the woodshed.

1362
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 2: You know.

1363
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:31,960
Speaker 4: Nate the Train just outdogged him in that fight. And

1364
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 4: Oama's rebounded well, but he's forty five percent. Takedown of

1365
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 4: fence scares me because Jonathan Pierce, that's what he's gonna do.

1366
01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:39,760
Speaker 4: He's gonna hug your legs. He's gonna take you down.

1367
01:04:39,800 --> 01:04:42,520
Speaker 4: His takedowns are very good, and he's not gonna give

1368
01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 4: up after one or two and be like, oh I'll

1369
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:47,120
Speaker 4: stand this round. No, he's coming after your legs, hopefully

1370
01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 4: with Onama, you know, being with that, you know, I

1371
01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 4: know he was with James Kraus for a while. I'm

1372
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,960
Speaker 4: not really sure where he's training at now. I think

1373
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,160
Speaker 4: Trey Ogden maybe has a gym out there, but you

1374
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 4: better be working your rappling. You better be working on

1375
01:04:58,400 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 4: things that people are going to take you out of

1376
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 4: your element. And I'm assuming David Oama's doing that. He's

1377
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:04,680
Speaker 4: a fantastic fighter, But I think Jonathan Pierce here, I

1378
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:07,120
Speaker 4: think Jonathan Pierce is going to outgrapple him. I don't

1379
01:05:07,160 --> 01:05:09,200
Speaker 4: see a submission victory. I just see maybe a decision

1380
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:11,840
Speaker 4: went for Jonathan Pierce and he's gonna get it done.

1381
01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:14,760
Speaker 6: Ken follow Aama's been a factory X for a little while.

1382
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,320
Speaker 6: I think there's a lot of talent, especially in and

1383
01:05:17,360 --> 01:05:20,120
Speaker 6: around his weight in that gym. I think Mark Montoya

1384
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 6: understands what type of matchup and challenge this is Jonathan

1385
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:26,640
Speaker 6: Pierce minus one eighty five David Oama.

1386
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 3: Plus one fifty four. Ken Fliw your thoughts.

1387
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do know after that last fight against Land

1388
01:05:31,320 --> 01:05:35,840
Speaker 1: where where Onama was really out grappled and kind of

1389
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: was grinded out in that fight, He's been working very

1390
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:40,920
Speaker 1: hard on his grappling, is my understanding.

1391
01:05:40,960 --> 01:05:42,400
Speaker 3: So I think he's going to be better.

1392
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: But you know, he gets a lot of things done

1393
01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:46,960
Speaker 1: with his striking, with his length, He's five to eleven.

1394
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: The problem is JSP is six foot tall, also has

1395
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: the length and a little bit more, and he can

1396
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 1: strike and he can grapple, and I think he understands

1397
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: that if he can put a pace on him and

1398
01:05:58,040 --> 01:06:00,720
Speaker 1: tire him out and take him to those dark places

1399
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,720
Speaker 1: rounds two and round three, he can win. So I'm

1400
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 1: leaning towards JSP. I could see Onama getting it done

1401
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 1: as well. This is a close fight, and of course

1402
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:10,640
Speaker 1: we haven't seen Onama in a little bit. A lot

1403
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 1: of things can change during that time period, but I

1404
01:06:13,640 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 1: like Jonathan Pierce here.

1405
01:06:15,440 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 6: All right, Brian, get your singing voice ready. At heavyweight,

1406
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 6: we have an undefeated Brazilian fighter out of Kooti, Chiba.

1407
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:23,840
Speaker 6: He makes his UFC debut this weekend, and we're going

1408
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,760
Speaker 6: to share with you folks the audio file of him

1409
01:06:25,800 --> 01:06:28,560
Speaker 6: saying his name. He recorded this before he competed on

1410
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:31,160
Speaker 6: the Contender Series. And then big gun Brian Petre's going

1411
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:34,200
Speaker 6: to try to duplicate exactly what he hears. So let

1412
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:39,800
Speaker 6: us hear from the heavyweight last name Jenie Denise and

1413
01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 6: Brian Petrie will follow it up. Let's hear the file, Cody.

1414
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 8: If you would that's Canajata genis Juel Nata.

1415
01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:05,440
Speaker 4: Genis ahead, Brian, Joe not the Genie. Where's the G coming?

1416
01:07:05,600 --> 01:07:07,840
Speaker 4: I see a D here? What's happening?

1417
01:07:08,360 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 3: Canny tell them? Yeah, it's that Rio accent. Man. We

1418
01:07:11,520 --> 01:07:14,360
Speaker 3: see a D and an I or d and Ay.

1419
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 3: Let's say g Jeni's.

1420
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 6: So smart, so uh Jenny's I'd imagine they'll go with

1421
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 6: Denise on broadcast, We'll see Joe Nata. Jenny is minus

1422
01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:30,560
Speaker 6: two thirty, Austin Lane is plus one nineties. So Deni's

1423
01:07:30,600 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 6: produced a first round knockout on the aforementioned Contender series.

1424
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,200
Speaker 6: Now he draws the former Jacksonville Jaguar Austin Lane, who

1425
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,880
Speaker 6: is still in search of that first UFC win. Bri,

1426
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 6: what do you make of the heavyweights?

1427
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:40,720
Speaker 5: Yeah?

1428
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,800
Speaker 4: You know, Uh, Janie's is coming from a kickboxing background.

1429
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 4: He is pretty solid. He's fawt some good guys in kickboxing.

1430
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:48,840
Speaker 4: He's not like high level like Peerra, but he's fought

1431
01:07:48,920 --> 01:07:53,040
Speaker 4: some good guys in his Contender series. Fight was fantastic

1432
01:07:53,080 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 4: with the one punch knockout. A lot of these kickboxing

1433
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 4: guys they get stuck in the rhythm. It seems like

1434
01:07:57,280 --> 01:07:59,200
Speaker 4: he's trying to break that. He's still young at m

1435
01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 4: Man Austin and here's a guy got knocked out by

1436
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:04,160
Speaker 4: Greg Hardy. Then Rowty got knocked out again, and then

1437
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,680
Speaker 4: rallied off wins and got back to the contended series,

1438
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:09,880
Speaker 4: got a w The toughest stuff happened whenever Justin Top

1439
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 4: was gonna put a lot of people's like that. I

1440
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 4: like Austin Lane's resolve. I like his mental you know,

1441
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,840
Speaker 4: high level athletes, not giving up on himself. But when

1442
01:08:17,880 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: it comes to this, you know, I know he's tall,

1443
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 4: he's lanky. He likes to get the fight to the guy,

1444
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 4: at least he's trying to. Being that tall is not

1445
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:24,799
Speaker 4: gonna help you try to get a fight to the ground.

1446
01:08:25,160 --> 01:08:28,240
Speaker 4: I like Joe Natajani's might be one of my favorite

1447
01:08:28,240 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 4: fighters to say now at this point, I'm saying it

1448
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:33,000
Speaker 4: all day. I like him moving by knockout here. I'm

1449
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:36,360
Speaker 4: not super confident anything can happen in heavyweight, but uh yeah,

1450
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,320
Speaker 4: give me the Brazilian can't flow.

1451
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:42,640
Speaker 6: Joe Nata Jeanne's Modus two thirty Austin Lane plus one

1452
01:08:42,800 --> 01:08:43,599
Speaker 6: nine to your thoughts.

1453
01:08:44,800 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this is a tough fight for Austin Lane.

1454
01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,880
Speaker 1: I think his best bet is to try to keep

1455
01:08:51,520 --> 01:08:54,320
Speaker 1: Jenny's on the outside with long range strikes, and I

1456
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: don't think it's going to be, uh, you know, easy

1457
01:08:57,680 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: to do. I think Jennie's is going to find a

1458
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,600
Speaker 1: way to on the inside. Lansom good hooks, and I

1459
01:09:02,600 --> 01:09:05,200
Speaker 1: saw a lot of his fights, and Deniz actually has

1460
01:09:05,240 --> 01:09:07,400
Speaker 1: fought a lot of guys that were a lot smaller

1461
01:09:07,400 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: than him, so I'm curious to see how he deals

1462
01:09:09,600 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: with someone with this kind of length.

1463
01:09:11,880 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 3: But I think he's gonna find a way.

1464
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 1: This guy's got a lot of power in tight and

1465
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,880
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna freeze Austin Lane at some point.

1466
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,120
Speaker 6: All right, next fight for US is in the flyweight

1467
01:09:22,160 --> 01:09:26,120
Speaker 6: division on the women's side. Both of these fighters are ranked.

1468
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,640
Speaker 6: Karini Silva number thirteen in the world is minus one

1469
01:09:28,760 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 6: fifty five. Ariani Lipski twelfth ranked at present is plus

1470
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 6: one thirty. Ariani Elpsky's really rounded into form. She submitted

1471
01:09:36,920 --> 01:09:39,360
Speaker 6: Casey O'Neal on a big card UFC two ninety six

1472
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,639
Speaker 6: last year. Really cemented her whole UFC buddy of work

1473
01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:44,760
Speaker 6: with that win. She's six and five in the octagon

1474
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:49,240
Speaker 6: three straight wins, works really hard, twenty five pro fights now,

1475
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:52,000
Speaker 6: She's only thirty years of age, but she's the underdog

1476
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 6: this weekend, Brian against her fellow Brazilian Karini Silva, who's

1477
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 6: only won eight in a row and that includes a

1478
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:59,400
Speaker 6: three and oh star to her UFC career. So big

1479
01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,040
Speaker 6: fight here in the division in which they're all chasing

1480
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 6: Alexa Grosso BP.

1481
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:03,720
Speaker 3: Who do you like?

1482
01:10:04,280 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 4: I hope this isn't one of the MMA where both

1483
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,680
Speaker 4: grapplers decide to strike. I mean, I'm sure it will

1484
01:10:08,680 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 4: still be a fun fight, but I want to see

1485
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 4: these girls on the ground because Silva's only submitted every

1486
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,200
Speaker 4: opponent in the UFC that she's had, and Lipsky's two

1487
01:10:15,240 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 4: finishes in the UFC are by submission, so this is

1488
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,000
Speaker 4: gonna be interesting on the ground. I lean Silver here.

1489
01:10:20,040 --> 01:10:22,120
Speaker 4: I think this is a good low number for her,

1490
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 4: but I've been Bernard Lifsky forces on a three fight

1491
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:26,920
Speaker 4: win she I picked against her all three times, so

1492
01:10:26,960 --> 01:10:29,040
Speaker 4: I can't get a right. But I like what I

1493
01:10:29,040 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 4: see more out of Silver. I think she has more

1494
01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,559
Speaker 4: tools to win. I think she's better on the ground,

1495
01:10:33,200 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 4: and it's gonna be a fun fight when it hits

1496
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 4: the ground. I'll be interesting to see how it happens.

1497
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 4: I think Lipsky has obviously maybe a slight advantage on

1498
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Speaker 4: the feet, but I want to see this play on

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01:10:41,320 --> 01:10:42,800
Speaker 4: the ground, and if it does, I like Silva. I

1500
01:10:42,840 --> 01:10:46,160
Speaker 4: like silvil by sub too. Yeah, give me creamy film.

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01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,880
Speaker 6: Nicely done, Brice. Silva has seventeen pro wins ken Fo,

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01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 6: all of them by knockout or submission, nine knockouts to

1503
01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:55,200
Speaker 6: go with the eight submissions, and Brian mentioned three UFC starts,

1504
01:10:55,240 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 6: all submission wins. She's the slight favorite this weekend against

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01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:00,000
Speaker 6: Ariani Lipsky.

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01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:02,599
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's fighting Lipsky at a very interesting time

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01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,320
Speaker 1: where Lipsky has this three fight win streak. She's shown

1508
01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:08,599
Speaker 1: great improvement since her last fight, our last loss against

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01:11:08,600 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: Priscilla Cashaweita, and you know, she just looks sharper overall.

1510
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:15,559
Speaker 1: It seems like she's really putting in the work. She's

1511
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 1: taken a lot from those hard losses in the UFC,

1512
01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 1: and you know, I think if she's able to stop

1513
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,840
Speaker 1: the takedown, she could do really well in this fight,

1514
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: especially if she's throwing those kind of high volume combinations.

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01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:32,960
Speaker 1: The problem is is Silva is gonna be a little

1516
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 1: bit bigger. She's gonna play the bully roll a little bit,

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01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,519
Speaker 1: and she's gonna back up Lipsky, I think in this fight,

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01:11:37,560 --> 01:11:40,439
Speaker 1: which is gonna pose some problems, way harder to finish

1519
01:11:40,439 --> 01:11:44,280
Speaker 1: your combinations with kicks and especially leg kicks that Lipsky

1520
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:46,880
Speaker 1: likes to throw when you're backing up all the time.

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01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:48,320
Speaker 3: And Silva on the.

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01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:51,519
Speaker 1: Ground is an absolute menace only at BGJ Purple Belt,

1523
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,920
Speaker 1: but she is very dangerous, very confident with her submission

1524
01:11:54,920 --> 01:11:57,679
Speaker 1: game in particular. So I like Silva here as well.

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 1: I think she can be a real threat. I think

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: this is a big challenge for her and we'll get

1527
01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:04,080
Speaker 1: a good gauge on how far she can go if

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01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: she's able to look impressive here against Lipsky.

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01:12:06,320 --> 01:12:08,599
Speaker 6: All right, place your bets coming up in about five

1530
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 6: minutes as these guys tell you how they spend their

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01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:13,240
Speaker 6: one thousand dollars for this UFC fight night. But let

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01:12:13,320 --> 01:12:15,639
Speaker 6: us quickly break down the comin event in the light

1533
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,880
Speaker 6: heavyweight division. Eleventh ranked Ryan Span minus two to five,

1534
01:12:20,360 --> 01:12:25,240
Speaker 6: bog Don Guskov is plus one seventy Gustkove hasn't lost

1535
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:27,880
Speaker 6: in the UFC when he has had a full training camp.

1536
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,840
Speaker 6: That volcan Uzdamir UFC debut was on short notice, and

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01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 6: Ryan Span He's still ranked right still number eleven in

1538
01:12:35,479 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 6: the world. Brian hasn't necessarily lived up to the general

1539
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,600
Speaker 6: Safe Saud's lofty expectations for him. He is seven and

1540
01:12:41,720 --> 01:12:44,600
Speaker 6: four in the UFC, but Span has dropped two in

1541
01:12:44,640 --> 01:12:47,160
Speaker 6: a row, last of which came in a competitive split

1542
01:12:47,200 --> 01:12:51,040
Speaker 6: decision lost to Anthony Lionhartsmith. That was in Singapore last August.

1543
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 6: Huge spot for Span here, He's got to have this

1544
01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:56,080
Speaker 6: one if he's ever going to get to that precipice.

1545
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 6: What are your thoughts on the comine event, bry at

1546
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 6: two hundred and five pounds intrigued.

1547
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:02,160
Speaker 4: You know, bog gun I was high on him and

1548
01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,080
Speaker 4: when he made his debut against Volkanozimi and Osimir was like, oh,

1549
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:08,160
Speaker 4: Lore's there's levels of this bro. Like Gusco's got some

1550
01:13:08,200 --> 01:13:10,800
Speaker 4: really good wins outside the UFC, He's fought some good competition.

1551
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,760
Speaker 4: He's got a right hand from hell. You know, he

1552
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 4: looks like the evil. You know, you talk about the

1553
01:13:16,200 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 4: bad Anick Twin and the good. You know, he's the

1554
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:21,640
Speaker 4: evil Anthony Smith essentially, right He's just that's what he is.

1555
01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:23,559
Speaker 4: He does is a little more menace behind his eyes

1556
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:26,120
Speaker 4: than Anthony Smith. And he's got a big, powerful right hand.

1557
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,240
Speaker 4: Technique is a little sloppy, but if he lands the

1558
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,960
Speaker 4: right hand like he did in his last fight, it's curtains.

1559
01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:35,519
Speaker 4: And Ryan Span is so athletic and big and powerful,

1560
01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:37,840
Speaker 4: but his fight IQ is plaguing him at times. In

1561
01:13:37,840 --> 01:13:40,840
Speaker 4: my opinion, I think his front choke because guillotine is amazing.

1562
01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: I think his wrestling is getting better, his cardio is

1563
01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 4: grassly and greatly improved, and then his power is going

1564
01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,599
Speaker 4: to be there because he's not built he's built for power.

1565
01:13:50,560 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 4: And this took me a little bit because I was

1566
01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,559
Speaker 4: gonna play I like Spanning the fight. I'm picking Span,

1567
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 4: but I was gonna play Goost, go by knockout, play

1568
01:13:57,240 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 4: to place your bets. But I can't do that. I

1569
01:13:59,160 --> 01:14:01,320
Speaker 4: can't give a pick in waiver. This is a good

1570
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 4: head spot for people out there that are probably gonna

1571
01:14:03,560 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 4: put Ryan Span in a parlay. I see you, and

1572
01:14:06,240 --> 01:14:08,880
Speaker 4: you can always go round one, Goost, cove knockout or

1573
01:14:09,000 --> 01:14:11,280
Speaker 4: round two whatever, because I don't see him win a decision.

1574
01:14:11,520 --> 01:14:14,719
Speaker 4: I like Ryan Span here probably by a finish I assume,

1575
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,400
Speaker 4: but I'm gonna arrive of Span. I think he's I'm

1576
01:14:17,439 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 4: confident him in his athleticism and not to mention his

1577
01:14:20,840 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 4: record and who he's fought, He's been in there with

1578
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 4: the better guys. Hopefully that pulls out for him in

1579
01:14:24,840 --> 01:14:26,320
Speaker 4: this big coming IMN spot here.

1580
01:14:26,439 --> 01:14:29,040
Speaker 6: Can flow Ryan Span, Monus two oh five bog Don

1581
01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:31,920
Speaker 6: Gustco plus one seventy at the Apex Saturday night.

1582
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:36,880
Speaker 1: Interesting fight. I think both these guys are a little inconsistent.

1583
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:41,240
Speaker 1: Both have high powered offenses for sure, so I kind

1584
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,080
Speaker 1: of agree with you, Brian. I don't see this one

1585
01:14:43,120 --> 01:14:44,720
Speaker 1: going the distance. If it does, I think it will

1586
01:14:44,760 --> 01:14:49,120
Speaker 1: be a dandy. But I'm leaning towards Span. You know,

1587
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:51,680
Speaker 1: I'm not going to touch this, and I don't recommend

1588
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:54,600
Speaker 1: someone to touch this as far as a gamble, just

1589
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:58,120
Speaker 1: because both these guys are capable of either looking great

1590
01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: or looking terrorble, even within the same fight. So let's

1591
01:15:03,600 --> 01:15:06,120
Speaker 1: see what happens. IVK spand should probably try to look

1592
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:07,800
Speaker 1: to take this fight to the ground at some point,

1593
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: but Gus gove on his back and I think he

1594
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:15,840
Speaker 1: does he should get a tout, So I'm leaning towards spam.

1595
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:18,600
Speaker 6: My main event number five versus number eight in the

1596
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:22,720
Speaker 6: men's flyweight division Matteos Nico Lau minus one eighty five

1597
01:15:22,720 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 6: Alex Perez plus one fifty four. So how about Perez

1598
01:15:25,560 --> 01:15:28,679
Speaker 6: stepping up here making the quick turn after he goes

1599
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,679
Speaker 6: three hard rounds with Muhammad Mokaya back on March second.

1600
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:33,760
Speaker 6: On the other side, you have Nico Law. He's had

1601
01:15:33,800 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 6: a year off since the knockout lost to Brandon roy Vall.

1602
01:15:36,960 --> 01:15:39,640
Speaker 6: Initially was to have his rematch with Manel cop on

1603
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 6: this date, but Cop is out, Perez is in ken flow.

1604
01:15:43,439 --> 01:15:45,120
Speaker 6: We will lead with you on the main event. Do

1605
01:15:45,160 --> 01:15:48,519
Speaker 6: you like Nico Lao the favorite or Alex Perez the dog?

1606
01:15:49,760 --> 01:15:53,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm looking forward to seeing how Nicolau comes back

1607
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:56,439
Speaker 1: after that last fight. I think he's a fighter with

1608
01:15:56,479 --> 01:15:59,280
Speaker 1: a lot of potential. I'd like to see him pick

1609
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:01,120
Speaker 1: up the volume a little bit. But as far as

1610
01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:04,639
Speaker 1: skill wise and technique and all that stuff, I think

1611
01:16:04,680 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: he does have it all and could potentially make a

1612
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,920
Speaker 1: run at that belt at some point. But this is

1613
01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,840
Speaker 1: gonna be a question mark for me at Perez is

1614
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 1: a guy who has a ton of experience against high

1615
01:16:15,560 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: level fighters, you know, one in three in his last

1616
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:21,160
Speaker 1: four fights, but you look at the losses that he had.

1617
01:16:21,200 --> 01:16:25,439
Speaker 1: It's Mokaya, it's Pantosia, it's Davison Figueredo. Two out of

1618
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:29,240
Speaker 1: those three guys are are champions, former champions, a champion

1619
01:16:29,360 --> 01:16:31,880
Speaker 1: or former champions, and Makaia is a guy who may

1620
01:16:31,920 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 1: be a champion. So I think Perez learned a lot

1621
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: from that fight against Mokayah. I thought largely his wrestling

1622
01:16:38,400 --> 01:16:41,000
Speaker 1: was pretty good against a guy who has dominated the

1623
01:16:41,000 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: competition with it. He's good at getting back to his feet,

1624
01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,400
Speaker 1: he's got great leg kicks, he's good at putting together combinations.

1625
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,439
Speaker 1: He knows how to win rounds or at least make

1626
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:53,840
Speaker 1: them close. And it's a relatively quick turnaround for him.

1627
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:55,320
Speaker 1: So I think he's gonna be in shape. I think

1628
01:16:55,320 --> 01:16:59,519
Speaker 1: he's gonna be sharp, and I'm gonna lean towards Perez here.

1629
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:03,040
Speaker 1: I think what hurts him is the lack of consistency

1630
01:17:03,080 --> 01:17:05,800
Speaker 1: with his activity, and I think we should see a

1631
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 1: better version of him here in this play.

1632
01:17:07,720 --> 01:17:09,760
Speaker 6: I agree with a lot of that handicap without giving

1633
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 6: a prediction, Brian, I like Alex Perez getting back on

1634
01:17:12,360 --> 01:17:15,880
Speaker 6: the horse, staying in this competition cycle and being healthy

1635
01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,280
Speaker 6: enough to do so. We'll see what he has for

1636
01:17:18,360 --> 01:17:20,640
Speaker 6: Nico Loud this weekend. Bridy have a prediction for us,

1637
01:17:20,920 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 6: so real quick.

1638
01:17:21,520 --> 01:17:23,599
Speaker 4: I got here a little late. Did we mention Kenny

1639
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,120
Speaker 4: shirt because it's very camouflaged, but I know it's not

1640
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:31,679
Speaker 4: off the rack. It's probably you, Saint Laurent. It's probably

1641
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,440
Speaker 4: twelve hundred goddamn dollars. He looks amazing.

1642
01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:35,719
Speaker 5: How you get it out there.

1643
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 4: Staying a big head, staying on him the whole time. Listen,

1644
01:17:39,320 --> 01:17:41,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what manteous nick Laud has done to

1645
01:17:41,160 --> 01:17:44,439
Speaker 4: me in my previous life. I'm sorry, nik Laud, because

1646
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:46,920
Speaker 4: I think against you every time I dogg on you.

1647
01:17:47,080 --> 01:17:49,440
Speaker 4: If I ever seen you in person, you get elimined.

1648
01:17:49,479 --> 01:17:52,040
Speaker 4: Calf kicks on me. You're a fantastic fighter, but I

1649
01:17:52,120 --> 01:17:54,719
Speaker 4: never pick you, and I'm going against you again. Why

1650
01:17:54,800 --> 01:17:57,599
Speaker 4: Kenny is leaning on Alex Perez. I'm foling all over

1651
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 4: Alex Perez. I love that he's staying out active. The

1652
01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: Malcaia fight, he proved to be really hard to take down,

1653
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 4: and when you took him down, he popped right back up.

1654
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 4: He still has the power. I love that he's getting

1655
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,640
Speaker 4: the cycle to fight, because if you look at his

1656
01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:14,559
Speaker 4: topology page, it is just a cancel fights everywhere. Stay active,

1657
01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:17,240
Speaker 4: young man, get your power back. Nick Laud's been clipped

1658
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,920
Speaker 4: in fights before. You just got knocked out. He's been

1659
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 4: knocked out before. He's been harder in a lot of

1660
01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:23,160
Speaker 4: fights as well. Perez has a hell of a right hand.

1661
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,200
Speaker 4: Trust your right hand, young man. And I like Alice

1662
01:18:26,240 --> 01:18:27,479
Speaker 4: President the dog money as well.

1663
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:30,120
Speaker 6: Let's go, all right, both guys like Alex Perez. He

1664
01:18:30,160 --> 01:18:32,439
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1673
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1674
01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 6: So, Brian Patre, unless I'm mistaken, went two and four

1675
01:18:58,120 --> 01:19:01,080
Speaker 6: on his wagers at UFC three hundred, five hundred dollars

1676
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:05,280
Speaker 6: straight wager on Diego Lopez, hit three hundred dollars straight

1677
01:19:05,320 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 6: on Uriprohaska. You lost a couple of parlays. The Bownickel

1678
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:11,400
Speaker 6: knockout prop was a loser as well, and Charles blavera straight,

1679
01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,280
Speaker 6: So that olivera armansarro Gian fight was a big swing

1680
01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 6: fight for this particular challenge. Weekly total at UFC three

1681
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,719
Speaker 6: hundred for Brian Petrie minus five thirty two eighty nine

1682
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 6: year to date minus four oh four and a quarter.

1683
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:28,360
Speaker 6: Kemflow goes two and two on his four straight wagers

1684
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,400
Speaker 6: at UFC three hundred. You hit on Armansarajan. That was

1685
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:34,759
Speaker 6: an eight hundred dollars bet nice that paid three fifty

1686
01:19:34,800 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 6: five fifty six. You also had four hundred dollars straight,

1687
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,960
Speaker 6: did Ken flow on Alex Padda. You missed on Tadik

1688
01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,320
Speaker 6: Yusuf and Justin Gaichee. So minus one twenty four to

1689
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,000
Speaker 6: forty four is the total still in the black though

1690
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,760
Speaker 6: on the year, Kenny is at plus seven fifty five

1691
01:19:47,880 --> 01:19:51,479
Speaker 6: seventy one and your lead can flow eleven fifty nine

1692
01:19:52,040 --> 01:19:55,959
Speaker 6: ninety six. All right, gentlemen, back to one thousand dollars

1693
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:59,759
Speaker 6: to spend on this year UFC fight night, Brian Petrie,

1694
01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:02,679
Speaker 6: how when you spend your one thousand dollars at UFC

1695
01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,360
Speaker 6: Fight Night Niko Lao versus Perez.

1696
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:07,640
Speaker 4: So I should probably listen to Kenny, who is in

1697
01:20:07,640 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 4: the lead. But I'm an idiot because he said he's

1698
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:12,800
Speaker 4: not gonna touch Ryan Sman. I'm gonna touch him with

1699
01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 4: three hundred dollars. You know, I'm going in on Span.

1700
01:20:15,240 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: I think he's gonna I hope. I'm convincing myself that

1701
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,759
Speaker 4: he's gonna fight smart. I do think he's a better fighter.

1702
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 4: Give me another three hundred dollars on Hawks Perez. Okay,

1703
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:27,760
Speaker 4: give me two hundred dollars on pres By Ko, which

1704
01:20:27,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 4: we'll we'll chase. I'll give that number two later this

1705
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Speaker 4: week and then give me a little parlay here, a

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01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:36,599
Speaker 4: little two undred dollar parlay on Euro Schmititch and Jonathan Pierce,

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01:20:36,840 --> 01:20:38,600
Speaker 4: and I chase that number Foe. He's already placed a

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 4: bet that's plus one oh seven on DraftKings sportsbook right now.

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Speaker 3: Amazing?

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01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:45,960
Speaker 6: All right, nicely done, can flow? You have the lead

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Speaker 6: and one thousand dollars to spend.

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Speaker 3: Who do you love?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sir, let's go with Medich for four hundred dollars.

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Speaker 1: I like him there in that matchup. I also like

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Speaker 1: JSP for two hundred dollars okay. I like Silva for

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Speaker 1: three bills okay, and then I'm going to play one

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01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:11,080
Speaker 1: hundred dollars parlay. I like medic Denise and Silva is.

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01:21:11,720 --> 01:21:15,639
Speaker 6: And Silva and Ken Flow lays off the main event.

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Speaker 3: All right.

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Speaker 6: Brian Petrie can be found at Brian Petrie Mma. Wish

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Speaker 6: all the best, buddy outstanding to have you back. We

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Speaker 6: will talk to you, i'd imagine in a week as

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Speaker 6: we get ready for UFC three oh one, and actually

1724
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,040
Speaker 6: probably a good time to remind our listeners that we

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Speaker 6: will be doing a show live from Rio de Janeiro

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Speaker 6: on Wednesday, May first. That will be our UFC three

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Speaker 6: oh one breakdown and preview with all predictions from these fellas.

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Speaker 6: So Riy, we won't see you for about nine days.

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Speaker 6: Enjoy your family, enjoy work, and we'll talk to you

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Speaker 6: on the first of May.

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Speaker 4: All right, boys, I'll see you.

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Speaker 3: Barri is Brian.

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Speaker 6: Petre with us for the main event challenge and place

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Speaker 6: your bets. All right, we got to bounce on out

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Speaker 6: of here. Thanks for our producer, Cody Merrow, Thank you

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Speaker 6: to our guest Ray Longo, Jose Young's Brian Petrie. We

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Speaker 6: are back, as I mentioned, Wednesday May first. That'll be

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Speaker 6: our UFC three oh one preview. I will be live

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Speaker 6: in Rio de Janeiro and we will also do a

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Speaker 6: show live on Sunday after the pay per view UFC

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Speaker 6: three oh one to recap that with you folks as well.

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Speaker 6: I know a lot of our listeners and viewers were

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Speaker 6: hoping for some more Sunday content after the pay per view,

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Speaker 6: asking you shall receive. We'll see how I go in

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Speaker 3: All right, that's gonna do it for this week.

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Speaker 6: Thanks everybody for listening, for watching, Tell your friends for

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Speaker 6: Kemp Flum, John Anak. We'll talk to you on Wednesday

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Speaker 6: May first. Until then, be well, respect this earth, especially

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Speaker 6: on our day.

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Speaker 9: Life like you gonna roll either up, tres me the

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Speaker 9: souls to the breast he's gone bread, gone bread, slave

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Speaker 9: and suppressious to the best that you can't.

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Speaker 3: Keep your hands on the boxe of the open.

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Speaker 5: He's gone red.

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Speaker 2: He's gone red.

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Speaker 3: He's going