Speaker 1: I Am all In.
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Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, one
Speaker 1: on one interview with Nick Holmes. Nick played the role
Speaker 1: of Robert for four episodes two thousand and five six.
Speaker 1: He also appeared in Revival's final episode Fall. His first
Speaker 1: appearance was season five episode seven, You Jump, I Jumped Jack.
Speaker 1: Last appearance was season six episode eighteen. The Real Paul
Speaker 1: Anke A Year in the Life. He appeared in Fall.
Speaker 1: Robert is a rich kid and a student at Yale University.
Speaker 1: He's arrogant, pompous, and self involved. On a date with Rory,
Speaker 1: he makes it known his sole goal in life is
Speaker 1: to cheat his sibling out of their inheritance and leave
Speaker 1: it to a parrot.
Speaker 3: Despite his family.
Speaker 1: He was born August fourteenth, nineteen eighty one, Dodge City, Kansas.
Speaker 1: He's an actor editor known for Guardians of the Galaxy
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Super twenty ten, The First Blood War two
Speaker 1: thousand and eighty. Has been married to Virginia Madison since
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Let's bring him in, Nick, how are you?
Speaker 4: I'm dying mind?
Speaker 1: Scott good terrific so tell us a little bit about
Speaker 1: how you got your start in this career.
Speaker 4: I did dinner theater when I was a kid, and
Speaker 4: and then when I moved to Los Angeles at the
Speaker 4: rest of my several directors that I worked for in
Speaker 4: that genre, which is a very specific genre. Luckily I
Speaker 4: was too young to have to actually go out during
Speaker 4: the braes and poor drinks. I moved to LA and
Speaker 4: I made a living doing commercials for many years, and
Speaker 4: then trying and trying to get on television, and Gilmore
Speaker 4: Girls was my first television job.
Speaker 1: Oh great, So what do you remember about the casting
Speaker 1: part of it?
Speaker 4: The casting part of it was very flattering to me
Speaker 4: because I originally auditioned for the pilot and I loved
Speaker 4: the script and I wish i'd kept it, the physical
Speaker 4: copy of it when that was a thing. And they
Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Dean, which of course, you know,
Speaker 4: Pedalacic got and it was incredible ad And then they
Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Tristan, and for my memory doesn't serve,
Speaker 4: but Mark Casey, one of the casting directors who later
Speaker 4: really changed my life, and Jane Rudowski remained a fan
Speaker 4: of me and kept bringing me back. M m and
Speaker 4: then I got lucky and they had me auditioned for
Speaker 4: this part that required a marksman, which I am, and
Speaker 4: that's when I finally got rolled.
Speaker 3: I could speak fair a marksman.
Speaker 1: The role required you to be a marksman of firing weapons.
Speaker 4: Yes. In that episode for you, it's called you Jump
Speaker 4: I jump Jack and I think you had to have
Speaker 4: a golf game, yes with Richard. And meanwhile I got
Speaker 4: to be my first line of work. Do you care
Speaker 4: to hear about this bit?
Speaker 3: I too, I want to hear all of it.
Speaker 4: My first night of work was in Griffith Park in
Speaker 4: a part that's normally shut off, and they had set
Speaker 4: up this football field long. It was a sweeps episode,
Speaker 4: so they were spending the money. It footbar one hundred
Speaker 4: yard long, set like it was from out of Africa,
Speaker 4: and everybody was dressed like it was from out of Africa,
Speaker 4: and it was just whimsical. And it was at night,
Speaker 4: you know, I think my cold time was like ten pm.
Speaker 4: So I got there and I met the rest of
Speaker 4: the Life and Death Brigade who had already done episodes together.
Speaker 4: And I hated Tank, said, just hated him because he
Speaker 4: was so handsome and comfortable and seemed to know everybody,
Speaker 4: and now we're great friends, had been for years and years.
Speaker 4: And met Matt zu Green, who's you know, is the
Speaker 4: sweetheart he appears to be. I mean, he plays, you know,
Speaker 4: a cheating liar on the show, but he's he's just
Speaker 4: a lovely human, one of the nice people I've met,
Speaker 4: one of the nicest people I've met in show buds,
Speaker 4: you know. So I get there and meet the director
Speaker 4: Kenny Ortega, who remains a friend, who's a lovely man,
Speaker 4: who did that wonderful he was producing that show for
Speaker 4: Michael Jackson when Michael Jackson died, and then it made
Speaker 4: that documentary about it. He's a lovely man. That side note.
Speaker 4: So first night at work, meet every Matt Zuckery is
Speaker 4: sitting on his trailer steps sort of just strumming the guitar,
Speaker 4: not being not being a you know, not being a
Speaker 4: show off, just playing around in the beautiful air. And
Speaker 4: we made up a song together called give Me Back
Speaker 4: My Bacon Sandwich. You beautiful, of course beautiful. So that's
Speaker 4: funny to think about it. I haven't thought about this
Speaker 4: a long time anyway. So rehearsal comes and it's my
Speaker 4: first time to meet Alexis, and she's exquisitely simple and
Speaker 4: lovely and kind to me and is trying to make
Speaker 4: me feel comfortable, which I wasn't. And we go to
Speaker 4: shoot the scene, and if you rewatch it, you'll see
Speaker 4: that my first shot they which they used, is a
Speaker 4: wide where I walk into frame and I don't stop
Speaker 4: swinging my arm even though I'm holding still, and I
Speaker 4: could never take my eyes off that when I rewatched it.
Speaker 4: And then I got a flat tire on the way
Speaker 4: down the hill that night and it's you know, like
Speaker 4: five am, so I had to deal with that, So
Speaker 4: that's memorable. Then the following day was shot at the
Speaker 4: Disney Ranch north of Town North Villa, and that's when
Speaker 4: we did the That's when I had to do the shooting,
Speaker 4: and there was a there was a time crunch and
Speaker 4: we had this big shot to do, multiple shots to do,
Speaker 4: and Amy was mad, and a lot of people because
Speaker 4: I got the job because I was marksman, came down
Speaker 4: from the crew trailers to watch me shoot. And on
Speaker 4: the first of what Amy decided was she wanted to
Speaker 4: do a long tracking shot instead of individual things so
Speaker 4: we could pick it up and get it done before
Speaker 4: the sun went down, and the DP was like, I
Speaker 4: don't know, and I don't know that gentleman's name. It
Speaker 4: was certainly a talented fellah. But I think he got
Speaker 4: fired right then because Amy asked the assistant DP, it's
Speaker 4: like can you do it? And he was like yep,
Speaker 4: and she was like you take over.
Speaker 3: So I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know if think I got fired, but he
Speaker 4: got dismissed. And so there's this long tracking shot across
Speaker 4: a lot of dialogue of course, that goes around behind
Speaker 4: me wherein I am already shooting, and then you've got
Speaker 4: these platforms where men in tuxedos are being launched in
Speaker 4: the air across from each other, and that's what I'm
Speaker 4: shooting at, and so I have to hit one when
Speaker 4: I when they get behind me. That's why they hired me,
Speaker 4: and because I'm so handsome m h. And so again
Speaker 4: time crunch, sun's going down, very little light left. They
Speaker 4: do the first pass and there was no U. There
Speaker 4: was only a props person. There wasn't a somebody who
Speaker 4: knew anything about guns, and so I didn't get to
Speaker 4: handle the weapon first and try it, so it wasn't
Speaker 4: dialed in. I didn't. I didn't. I wasn't familiar with it,
Speaker 4: and so I had a few minutes two try it out.
Speaker 4: And so we do this long tracking shop with all
Speaker 4: the dialogue goes around behind me, and the guys are
Speaker 4: getting launched in the air and the gun's on safety
Speaker 4: and I don't realize it. So I ruined it. If
Speaker 4: I remember the sentence right, Amy said, mother nature is
Speaker 4: gonnas in the air, and we have to do this
Speaker 4: right now. And so I felt a great deal.
Speaker 1: Of prayer Amy Amy. Amy's very colorful, to.
Speaker 4: Say the least. Anyway, after that, I got it dialed
Speaker 4: in and we out it over and over again, and
Speaker 4: then I had just one of bush one of those
Speaker 4: things that only show business can give you is then
Speaker 4: she was like, let's just get some roul of you
Speaker 4: shooting guys. And so for the next half hour until
Speaker 4: the sun went down, stunt men and tuxedos were getting
Speaker 4: launcht in the air and I would shoot them. And
Speaker 4: when I was asked back for my next episode, because
Speaker 4: you know, it's a bit of entertainment.
Speaker 1: We thought we thought that that was one of my
Speaker 1: favorite scenes in the entire four or five seasons up
Speaker 1: to that point, where those were those guys flying through
Speaker 1: the air getting shot.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was hysterically.
Speaker 4: Funny, just just whimsical.
Speaker 1: You know, really terrific. Yeah, Amy drops in these scenes
Speaker 1: that just take you by surprise, and there.
Speaker 3: They're just.
Speaker 1: God, what do you what can I compare them to?
Speaker 1: I mean you almost feel like you're watching a Fellini
Speaker 1: film at some point, you know, a little points here
Speaker 1: and there in certain episodes it's like, here's this great
Speaker 1: European flavor from a great director. It's almost like it's
Speaker 1: an homage to somebody, you know.
Speaker 4: The one of the one of the great treasures of
Speaker 4: having been a fan of the show, having auditioned for
Speaker 4: it all those years, but also watching it it was
Speaker 4: you know, it was didn't have TiVo then, so it
Speaker 4: was you know, like appointment viewing. You got to watch
Speaker 4: gilmbor girls like you schedule stuff around it. And so
Speaker 4: it was a huge fan of the show. When I
Speaker 4: got the gig, and one of the great privileges was
Speaker 4: when invited back for the Netflix reunion, well, it's to
Speaker 4: be able to shoot and stars hollow in full realia
Speaker 4: because that wasn't my storyline, you know, like I'd never
Speaker 4: have to I never have to be there. You know,
Speaker 4: I think you and I I encountered you two times
Speaker 4: that I can remember. Once you were getting five o'clock
Speaker 4: shadow done by makeup because you were clean shaven for
Speaker 4: a reshoot. And then the second time, if I remember right,
Speaker 4: you were riding a bike around wb going from one
Speaker 4: place to another.
Speaker 1: Oh. I was always doing that, Yeah, yeah, on our
Speaker 1: on our downtime, I'd get on a bike and ride
Speaker 1: around just to get a little air.
Speaker 4: Well, as a fan of the show.
Speaker 1: To suddenly see basically I was stalking others, you know,
Speaker 1: big time celebrities, trying to get their trailers, trying to
Speaker 1: meet them.
Speaker 4: I support this behavior some thing, but you know, just
Speaker 4: a funny thing to having not worked in television much
Speaker 4: just commercials, to suddenly have Scott Patterson writing past just
Speaker 4: going hit. It was a very memorable moment. Oh back
Speaker 4: to my point, doing the Netflix revival, it was so
Speaker 4: wonderful for me to be able to have such a
Speaker 4: stylish experience in starts hollow because it was all made
Speaker 4: up and you know, shooting golf balls off the roofs
Speaker 4: back and forth and being in the market and it
Speaker 4: was just cool. It was just cool that you know,
Speaker 4: it's one of those things that as an actor you
Speaker 4: don't forget, not because just because it was a great experience,
Speaker 4: but because it mattered to me as a fan and
Speaker 4: as a person. Sorry, I get emotional talking about.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't never apologize for that obviously means a great
Speaker 1: deal and appreciate your candor. It's what who was that
Speaker 1: that guy on Seinfeld who always it's.
Speaker 3: Gold, Jerry, It's Gold. Who's you also appeared in? Well?
Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this. First of all,
Speaker 3: is there.
Speaker 1: Anyone on the cast that you still stay in touch with?
Speaker 4: Uh? Tank Satan and I are still friends. But who's
Speaker 4: become a closest friend? And I had to fight for
Speaker 4: this friendship his Liz tour Is. I tried to get
Speaker 4: close to Liz Tours at every cast party and and
Speaker 4: she was just like she was just not having it.
Speaker 4: She just thought I was a creep, which is fair.
Speaker 4: But now I see her multiple times a week. She's
Speaker 4: she lives down the street nice and uh, I worship her.
Speaker 4: She's yeah, it's It's one of the great privileges of
Speaker 4: this experience of the show to have Liz Torres in
Speaker 4: my life in any kind of regular way, but we've
Speaker 4: gotten close, very nice.
Speaker 3: Give her my best I will.
Speaker 4: And Shelley Cole of course, because you did that, You
Speaker 4: did that beautiful show with the w B. When they
Speaker 4: read that was so beautiful to be all made up
Speaker 4: and be able to encounter it.
Speaker 3: It was nice.
Speaker 4: And Shelley stayed with me when she came to town
Speaker 4: for them, and uh so, Shelley and I are close,
Speaker 4: and you know, it's been just a wonderful community to
Speaker 4: be a part of. They've been supportive of me in
Speaker 4: many ways. I got two books that were in the
Speaker 4: Amazon top ten mm hmm. And I'm certain it's because
Speaker 4: of the Gilmore Girls mm hmm. You know that that
Speaker 4: community and things like that, and there's not a place
Speaker 4: I go in the world. And my wife's actress. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, m I think you worked together on something.
Speaker 1: I've never had the privilege of working with Virginia.
Speaker 4: You were on a show anyway.
Speaker 1: I worked with Well, I worked with her brother Cool.
Speaker 1: I worked with Michael Cool. You know, Michael Madson and
Speaker 1: I crossed paths for the first time, interestingly enough, because
Speaker 1: we just watched the Tarantino the Pulp Friction episode.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my beginning, so right.
Speaker 1: So, Michael Madsen and I first crossed paths at the
Speaker 1: audition at the final, final, final audition to play mister
Speaker 1: Blonde in Reservoir.
Speaker 3: Dogs over at Fox.
Speaker 4: What a trip.
Speaker 1: And then I got to do and I obviously he
Speaker 1: got it and he was great in it, and I
Speaker 1: just was pissed off for a year because it was
Speaker 1: like seventeen auditions. Yeah, he's He's a brilliant, brilliant guy
Speaker 1: and maybe one of the great screenwriters of all time.
Speaker 4: Oh and True Romance is one of my favorite screenplays ever.
Speaker 1: It's it's have you ever have you ever dug into
Speaker 1: to all of us, like read all of his screenplays
Speaker 1: because you know you can you can download or at
Speaker 1: least I figured out how to download all those screenplays
Speaker 1: from the Writer's Guild. And I just sat one afternoon
Speaker 1: and read all of his scripts and just was blown
Speaker 1: away the talent that this guy possessed this not only
Speaker 1: as a writer, but to bring it all to life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it make it work?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, because that's the whole that's the hard part.
Speaker 1: I mean, you think the writing's difficult, but then you
Speaker 1: got to bring it to life.
Speaker 4: I'm an enormous Tony Scott Fan.
Speaker 3: Yeah, me too.
Speaker 4: And so to have those two talking about true romance,
Speaker 4: to have those two talents collide. If you haven't seen
Speaker 4: it in a while, it's worth your time.
Speaker 1: Oh no, no, I've seen it.
Speaker 4: When we're done with.
Speaker 1: This several times. I've seen it several times. Oh good,
Speaker 1: extraordinary performances all through it. Brad Pitt was genius, James
Speaker 1: Vandelphini was genius. Gosh, Gary Oldman was Janius. I mean
Speaker 1: it was just a fan. Christian Slater was great. They
Speaker 1: were all great. I hate to leave anybody out. There
Speaker 1: were so many great performances. And that Michael Michael Rappaport
Speaker 1: was great. Uh yes, he's the one that really beats
Speaker 1: the tar out of Patricia Quatt and then who gave
Speaker 1: maybe the performance of the year.
Speaker 3: That that performance she gave.
Speaker 1: Was beautiful and heartfelt and wonderful.
Speaker 4: And Dennis Hopper.
Speaker 3: Walking before he kills him.
Speaker 4: That scene is one of my favorite scenes, right.
Speaker 1: And the moment he realizes that he's going to die,
Speaker 1: he decides to take his time, have a cigarette and
Speaker 1: tell the story and then deliver the final insult like
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna kill me, but I'm still gonna
Speaker 1: insult you to get.
Speaker 3: It was brilliant.
Speaker 4: No, it's my favorite Tarantino.
Speaker 1: It's the best kind of screenwriting there is. I just
Speaker 1: don't there's a lot of really good writers out there,
Speaker 1: but Tarantino man. And you know, he lives in Israel
Speaker 1: now and he's married and he has a couple of kids,
Speaker 1: and apparently Tel Aviv and I haven't been, but I've
Speaker 1: been told that Tel Aviv is like it's like West Hollywood.
Speaker 1: It's it's like La It's it's very diverse, it's very gay,
Speaker 1: it's very very open and artistic about thriving, thriving artistic community,
Speaker 1: painting and filmmaking and dance, and it's wonderful. It's it's
Speaker 1: like this movable face.
Speaker 3: That moved, you know.
Speaker 1: It's it was in New York and then it moved
Speaker 1: to Berlin and now it's now it's in Tel Aviv. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do a little thing called rapid Fire. How
Speaker 1: do you like your coffee.
Speaker 4: Blacker than a thousand mid nights? I actually really like
Speaker 4: your coffee.
Speaker 1: That thank you, yeah, thank you, ye have you binged the.
Speaker 4: Entire but it has to be I prefer it percolated, right, okay,
Speaker 4: I'm a collector of percolators.
Speaker 1: Interesting, have you binged the entire Gilmore Girls series?
Speaker 4: Not season seven?
Speaker 1: Got because you're a purist? Are you team Logan Team
Speaker 1: Jess or Team Dean.
Speaker 4: Team Roberts?
Speaker 3: That a way?
Speaker 4: Because because I'm the father, there you go as a
Speaker 4: fan of the show on team Jess.
Speaker 3: Gotcha?
Speaker 1: What would you order at Luke's Diner, Hamburg, Harvard or Yale?
Speaker 4: Yale?
Speaker 3: Why?
Speaker 4: Uh? I just I'd like the sound of it better.
Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls.
Speaker 4: Of watching the show or being on.
Speaker 1: It doesn't specify.
Speaker 4: Of watching the show. It's her graduation speech versus yes,
Speaker 4: I'm all in. You know the graduation you know you
Speaker 4: remember the graduation speech. And then as a shooting experience
Speaker 4: would be during the revival, being able to hit a
Speaker 4: golf ball off the roof of one of the buildings
Speaker 4: and starts.
Speaker 1: Of cast member you texted, most recently chilly, chilly cool.
Speaker 3: Gotcha?
Speaker 1: Uh something in your life?
Speaker 3: You are all in on.
Speaker 4: Cooking, cooking, cooking.
Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on. It was
Speaker 1: a pleasure getting to know you. I didn't really to
Speaker 1: meet you, really, I don't. We never really did any
Speaker 1: scenes together, and I don't think we were on set
Speaker 1: together very often. You mentioned a couple of times that
Speaker 1: you saw me, But it's been a pleasure and we'd
Speaker 1: love to have you back on and get a little
Speaker 1: more into your Gilmore experience and other areas of your career.
Speaker 1: So thanks so much for coming on, Nick Holmes.
Speaker 3: Everybody, Scott.
Speaker 4: It was my privilege and my pleasure to be here
Speaker 4: and to community communicate with you and recount some of
Speaker 4: those wonderful memories.
Speaker 1: All the best, buddy, take care of Thank you, hey, everybody,
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