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Speaker 1: I Am all In.

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Speaker 2: You, I Am all In with Scott Patterson, an iHeartRadio podcast.

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Speaker 1: Hey Everybody, Scott Patterson, I Am all In Podcast, one

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Speaker 1: on one interview with Nick Holmes. Nick played the role

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Speaker 1: of Robert for four episodes two thousand and five six.

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Speaker 1: He also appeared in Revival's final episode Fall. His first

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Speaker 1: appearance was season five episode seven, You Jump, I Jumped Jack.

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Speaker 1: Last appearance was season six episode eighteen. The Real Paul

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Speaker 1: Anke A Year in the Life. He appeared in Fall.

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Speaker 1: Robert is a rich kid and a student at Yale University.

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Speaker 1: He's arrogant, pompous, and self involved. On a date with Rory,

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Speaker 1: he makes it known his sole goal in life is

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Speaker 1: to cheat his sibling out of their inheritance and leave

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Speaker 1: it to a parrot.

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Speaker 3: Despite his family.

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Speaker 1: He was born August fourteenth, nineteen eighty one, Dodge City, Kansas.

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Speaker 1: He's an actor editor known for Guardians of the Galaxy

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Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, Super twenty ten, The First Blood War two

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Speaker 1: thousand and eighty. Has been married to Virginia Madison since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Let's bring him in, Nick, how are you?

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Speaker 4: I'm dying mind?

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Speaker 1: Scott good terrific so tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: how you got your start in this career.

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Speaker 4: I did dinner theater when I was a kid, and

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Speaker 4: and then when I moved to Los Angeles at the

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Speaker 4: rest of my several directors that I worked for in

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Speaker 4: that genre, which is a very specific genre. Luckily I

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Speaker 4: was too young to have to actually go out during

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Speaker 4: the braes and poor drinks. I moved to LA and

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Speaker 4: I made a living doing commercials for many years, and

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Speaker 4: then trying and trying to get on television, and Gilmore

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Speaker 4: Girls was my first television job.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, So what do you remember about the casting

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Speaker 1: part of it?

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Speaker 4: The casting part of it was very flattering to me

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Speaker 4: because I originally auditioned for the pilot and I loved

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Speaker 4: the script and I wish i'd kept it, the physical

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Speaker 4: copy of it when that was a thing. And they

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Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Dean, which of course, you know,

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Speaker 4: Pedalacic got and it was incredible ad And then they

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Speaker 4: had me auditioned for Tristan, and for my memory doesn't serve,

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Speaker 4: but Mark Casey, one of the casting directors who later

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Speaker 4: really changed my life, and Jane Rudowski remained a fan

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Speaker 4: of me and kept bringing me back. M m and

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Speaker 4: then I got lucky and they had me auditioned for

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Speaker 4: this part that required a marksman, which I am, and

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Speaker 4: that's when I finally got rolled.

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Speaker 3: I could speak fair a marksman.

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Speaker 1: The role required you to be a marksman of firing weapons.

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Speaker 4: Yes. In that episode for you, it's called you Jump

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Speaker 4: I jump Jack and I think you had to have

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Speaker 4: a golf game, yes with Richard. And meanwhile I got

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Speaker 4: to be my first line of work. Do you care

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Speaker 4: to hear about this bit?

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Speaker 3: I too, I want to hear all of it.

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Speaker 4: My first night of work was in Griffith Park in

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Speaker 4: a part that's normally shut off, and they had set

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Speaker 4: up this football field long. It was a sweeps episode,

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Speaker 4: so they were spending the money. It footbar one hundred

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Speaker 4: and it was just whimsical. And it was at night,

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Speaker 4: you know, I think my cold time was like ten pm.

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Speaker 4: So I got there and I met the rest of

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Speaker 4: the Life and Death Brigade who had already done episodes together.

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Speaker 4: And I hated Tank, said, just hated him because he

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Speaker 4: And met Matt zu Green, who's you know, is the

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Speaker 4: you know. So I get there and meet the director

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Speaker 4: Kenny Ortega, who remains a friend, who's a lovely man,

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Speaker 4: who did that wonderful he was producing that show for

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Speaker 4: Michael Jackson when Michael Jackson died, and then it made

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Speaker 4: So first night at work, meet every Matt Zuckery is

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Speaker 4: sitting on his trailer steps sort of just strumming the guitar,

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Speaker 4: My Bacon Sandwich. You beautiful, of course beautiful. So that's

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Speaker 4: funny to think about it. I haven't thought about this

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Speaker 4: first time to meet Alexis, and she's exquisitely simple and

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Speaker 4: shoot the scene, and if you rewatch it, you'll see

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Speaker 4: that my first shot they which they used, is a

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Speaker 4: swinging my arm even though I'm holding still, and I

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Speaker 4: could never take my eyes off that when I rewatched it.

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Speaker 4: And then I got a flat tire on the way

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Speaker 4: down the hill that night and it's you know, like

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Speaker 4: that's memorable. Then the following day was shot at the

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Speaker 4: we did the That's when I had to do the shooting,

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Speaker 4: and there was a there was a time crunch and

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Speaker 4: we had this big shot to do, multiple shots to do,

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Speaker 4: and Amy was mad, and a lot of people because

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Speaker 4: I got the job because I was marksman, came down

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Speaker 4: from the crew trailers to watch me shoot. And on

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Speaker 4: the first of what Amy decided was she wanted to

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Speaker 4: the sun went down, and the DP was like, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, and I don't know that gentleman's name. It

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Speaker 4: was certainly a talented fellah. But I think he got

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Speaker 4: fired right then because Amy asked the assistant DP, it's

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Speaker 4: like can you do it? And he was like yep,

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Speaker 4: and she was like you take over.

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Speaker 3: So I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't know if think I got fired, but he

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Speaker 4: got dismissed. And so there's this long tracking shot across

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Speaker 4: a lot of dialogue of course, that goes around behind

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Speaker 4: these platforms where men in tuxedos are being launched in

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Speaker 4: I when they get behind me. That's why they hired me,

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Speaker 4: and because I'm so handsome m h. And so again

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Speaker 4: time crunch, sun's going down, very little light left. They

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Speaker 4: And so we do this long tracking shop with all

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Speaker 4: I remember the sentence right, Amy said, mother nature is

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Speaker 1: Of prayer Amy Amy. Amy's very colorful, to.

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Speaker 4: Say the least. Anyway, after that, I got it dialed

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Speaker 4: things that only show business can give you is then

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Speaker 4: she was like, let's just get some roul of you

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Speaker 1: We thought we thought that that was one of my

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Speaker 1: to that point, where those were those guys flying through

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Speaker 3: I just thought it was hysterically.

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Speaker 4: Funny, just just whimsical.

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Speaker 1: You know, really terrific. Yeah, Amy drops in these scenes

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Speaker 1: God, what do you what can I compare them to?

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Speaker 1: I mean you almost feel like you're watching a Fellini

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Speaker 1: film at some point, you know, a little points here

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Speaker 1: and there in certain episodes it's like, here's this great

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Speaker 4: The one of the one of the great treasures of

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Speaker 4: having been a fan of the show, having auditioned for

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Speaker 4: it all those years, but also watching it it was

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Speaker 4: you know, it was didn't have TiVo then, so it

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Speaker 4: gilmbor girls like you schedule stuff around it. And so

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Speaker 4: it was a huge fan of the show. When I

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Speaker 4: when invited back for the Netflix reunion, well, it's to

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Speaker 4: be able to shoot and stars hollow in full realia

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Speaker 4: because that wasn't my storyline, you know, like I'd never

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Speaker 4: have to I never have to be there. You know,

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Speaker 4: I think you and I I encountered you two times

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Speaker 4: a reshoot. And then the second time, if I remember right,

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Speaker 1: Oh. I was always doing that, Yeah, yeah, on our

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Speaker 1: on our downtime, I'd get on a bike and ride

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Speaker 4: Well, as a fan of the show.

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Speaker 1: To suddenly see basically I was stalking others, you know,

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Speaker 1: big time celebrities, trying to get their trailers, trying to

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Speaker 4: I support this behavior some thing, but you know, just

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Speaker 4: a funny thing to having not worked in television much

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Speaker 4: just commercials, to suddenly have Scott Patterson writing past just

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Speaker 4: going hit. It was a very memorable moment. Oh back

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Speaker 4: to my point, doing the Netflix revival, it was so

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Speaker 4: up and you know, shooting golf balls off the roofs

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Speaker 4: it's one of those things that as an actor you

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Speaker 4: don't forget, not because just because it was a great experience,

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Speaker 4: but because it mattered to me as a fan and

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Speaker 4: as a person. Sorry, I get emotional talking about.

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Speaker 1: Oh, don't never apologize for that obviously means a great

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Speaker 1: deal and appreciate your candor. It's what who was that

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Speaker 1: that guy on Seinfeld who always it's.

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Speaker 3: Gold, Jerry, It's Gold. Who's you also appeared in? Well?

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Speaker 3: Let me let me ask you this. First of all,

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Speaker 1: Anyone on the cast that you still stay in touch with?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Tank Satan and I are still friends. But who's

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Speaker 4: become a closest friend? And I had to fight for

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Speaker 4: this friendship his Liz tour Is. I tried to get

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Speaker 4: she was just like she was just not having it.

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Speaker 4: She just thought I was a creep, which is fair.

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Speaker 4: But now I see her multiple times a week. She's

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Speaker 4: Blacker than a thousand mid nights? I actually really like

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Speaker 4: Because because I'm the father, there you go as a

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Speaker 4: Uh? I just I'd like the sound of it better.

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Speaker 1: Best memory of Gilmore Girls.

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Speaker 4: Of watching the show. It's her graduation speech versus yes,

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Speaker 1: Of cast member you texted, most recently chilly, chilly cool.

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Speaker 3: Gotcha?

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Speaker 1: Uh something in your life?

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Speaker 3: You are all in on.

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Speaker 4: Cooking, cooking, cooking.

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Speaker 1: Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on. It was

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Speaker 1: a pleasure getting to know you. I didn't really to

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Speaker 1: So thanks so much for coming on, Nick Holmes.

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Speaker 3: Everybody, Scott.

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Speaker 4: It was my privilege and my pleasure to be here

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Speaker 4: and to community communicate with you and recount some of

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Speaker 1: All the best, buddy, take care of Thank you, hey, everybody,

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