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Speaker 1: Welcome into Northside Territory Foul Territory Networks Cubs Podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: Zaadev Sharma with my partner Patrick Mooney. We are your

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Speaker 1: Cubs beat writers over at the Athletic Patrick, the Cubs

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Speaker 1: sure have picked a bad time to have their worst

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Speaker 1: stretch of the season. I mean, I guess you could

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Speaker 1: argue they've played worst baseball at different points over the

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Speaker 1: course of the season, but context wise, Tuesday was probably

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Speaker 1: felt like the worst loss of the season. You blow

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Speaker 1: a six to one lead. Honestly, that's not even the

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Speaker 1: worst part of it. We should just get right to it.

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Speaker 1: Kate Horton left after the third inning with what turned

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Speaker 1: out to be back tightness, and as someone that I

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Speaker 1: was at the game as a fan with my kids,

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Speaker 1: my son was really excited to see Kate Horton pitch.

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Speaker 1: So he's like telling me, every two minutes, can you

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Speaker 1: find out what happened to Kate Horton? What happened to

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Speaker 1: Kate Horton. I'm pretty sure that was emblematic of the

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Speaker 1: entire Cubs fandom during that moment.

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Speaker 2: Just, you know, not utter disaster.

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Speaker 1: You know, you didn't leave with a shoulder aching or

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Speaker 1: elbow aching or an oblique This sounds like they dodged something.

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Speaker 1: I think I said the same thing a month ago

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Speaker 2: So what were the vibes like.

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Speaker 1: In the postgame session with Council with Horton and what

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Speaker 1: what is your understanding of what's happening right here?

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Speaker 3: Apparently the Cubs have had an illness running through their clubhouse.

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Speaker 3: Council indicated that several players were sick in Cincinnati. I

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Speaker 3: guess you could also know the Cups that they're big

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Speaker 3: clinching celebration last week in Pittsburgh before heading to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 3: That's just in a side that is not what Counsel said.

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Speaker 3: But Horton had been coughing, and that he did not

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Speaker 3: feel any symptoms while throwing, say Sunday and Monday like

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Speaker 3: the day off before his start, but that as he

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Speaker 3: and that breathing, particularly deep breathing, became harder and just

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Speaker 3: everything sort of tightened up on him, and that Council

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Speaker 3: said it made no sense to push it Horton says

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Speaker 3: he would absolutely pitch through if it was a playoff game.

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Speaker 3: He said he has no doubts about his ability to

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Speaker 3: get ready for a playoff start, which we had been

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Speaker 3: assuming was game one. Maybe it's game two. Certainly the

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Speaker 3: Cubs aren't gonna announce it now given that and also

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Speaker 3: just the fact that the Padres are still on their

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Speaker 3: So yeah, I think your son was like everyone in

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Speaker 3: the press box, wait, what's going on here?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: In fact, I looked up and I saw like the

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Speaker 1: that that that's a mistake, Like that was last inning

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Speaker 1: And then I looked down and I was like, what

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Speaker 1: is happening right now? And just my mind went to,

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Speaker 1: like are they being extra aggressive here with like shortening

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Speaker 1: that's kind of insane if that's what they're doing. Like

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Speaker 1: he's still gonna need to win games. And I'll tell

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Speaker 1: you this, the way he's pitching and the way he

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Speaker 1: looked after those first two batters, they win that game

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Speaker 1: with him out there, Like I like, uh, there's no

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Speaker 2: He looks so good out there.

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Speaker 1: And I also believe him when he says he'd be

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Speaker 1: seems like that type of guy where you know you're

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 1: That's that's just the vibe I get from him. That's

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Speaker 1: how coaches talk about him. That's how his teammates talk

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Speaker 1: I guess there, you know, you you it sounds like

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Speaker 2: I I do.

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Speaker 1: Here's here's how I take away what I take away

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Speaker 1: from Tuesday. There's two big bad things. The lost obviously,

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Speaker 1: So I'm trying to look at it in terms of

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Speaker 1: Taylor Rogers likely isn't going to pitch big innings in

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Speaker 2: If it gets to that point, something's gone awry. Uh.

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Speaker 1: The offense does seem like it was the Reds that

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Speaker 2: Not like the offense is a mess.

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Speaker 1: I think it was really good to see the offense

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Speaker 2: Uh that that's that is if.

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Speaker 1: You are looking for a silver lining, it's I think

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Speaker 1: the offense looks pretty good right now. Nico Horner is

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Speaker 2: In and have continues to hit the ball hard.

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Speaker 1: I think it was a good sign to see, say,

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Speaker 1: Suzuki hit the ball hard up the middle, because when

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Speaker 2: Are you worried about Caleb steel Bar.

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Speaker 1: Like it's almost like, Okay, he gave up his runs

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Speaker 3: Side of life is too short to worry about Caleb

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Speaker 3: steel Bar, right, I mean, yeah, he's he's really really good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I just don't think there was much to take away

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Speaker 1: padres are creeping. What I would say to Cubs fans,

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Speaker 1: you know, like if the Cubs are like losing five

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Speaker 2: Here are the things that need to happen.

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Speaker 1: They need to play well over the next five games

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Speaker 1: and somehow win three of them.

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Speaker 2: If they can win.

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Speaker 1: Two, that probably help gets them into the top seed.

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Speaker 1: You know, like it's just the I just don't see

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Speaker 1: So baseball is weird, like impossible to predict. The Cubs

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Speaker 1: need to win some games against some two young, really

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Speaker 1: They still control their destiny. Focus has to be on

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Speaker 1: the health health of their players. We're going to get

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Speaker 1: to another Kyle Tucker update later in this show. Kate

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Speaker 1: Horton's back is all that really matters right now. He

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Speaker 1: is he is their best picture. Uh, you need Matt

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Speaker 1: Matthew Boyd to bounce back tonight because it's a it's

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Speaker 1: a it feels like a big game. You just need

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Speaker 1: and this streak move on. Like that's kind of how

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Speaker 1: the mentality needs to be. I don't think anything else

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Speaker 1: that happened in that game is needs to be analyzed

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Speaker 1: much more because the Kate Horton story is just like

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know how quickly I moved on side

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Speaker 3: I started. I booked a hotel for San Diego after

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Speaker 3: the game. I was gonna say, chatting and chatting with

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Speaker 3: another writer who I will not name. That idea came

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Speaker 3: up and it was a good one, just to have

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Speaker 3: myself covered. You know, it's it can still cancel it.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, it's wild how the Cubs have managed Horton

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Speaker 3: so conservatively that there was this sort of maybe they

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Speaker 3: just took him out after three innings like that was

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Speaker 3: clearly not the case, and I think you're right that

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Speaker 3: game turns out differently if he gives them whatever, probably

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Speaker 3: much beyond that, Horton said. Pitchwise, he felt great. I mean,

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Speaker 3: Lindor Francisco, Lindor leadoff hitter, you'll put one in the bleachers.

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Speaker 3: But otherwise, he just gave up a single to Juan Soto,

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Speaker 3: all of those things. So you know, it sounded you

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Speaker 3: relatively optimistic post game. You know, his blister didn't become

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Speaker 3: it was in August, and definitely his attitude and mentality

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Speaker 3: Counsel said, I have to see how how it goes

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we may need to book tickets for or hotels

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Speaker 1: for la as well, because I think the Padres are

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Speaker 1: only like a I think they have the same record

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Speaker 2: The Dodgers too, so we don't.

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Speaker 1: Patrick matt Shaw talked to the media before Tuesday's loss, addressing,

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Speaker 3: One thing in terms of like Charlie Kirk coming to

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Speaker 1: This one is is it's a very real update in

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Speaker 3: And it seems like just as soon as I start

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Speaker 3: bunch of good interviews banked on Kate Horton haven't even

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Speaker 3: So I am not plain. It's more just as you

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Speaker 3: were talking there, so my mind just went when some

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Speaker 3: somewhere else. So, like you said, things change quick. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the tone could be different next time we talk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll see where they're they're at.

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Speaker 1: They need some wins, calm down this fan base just

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Speaker 1: kind of settle things down, and and and they should

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Speaker 1: you know this, I think I think here's one thing

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Speaker 1: that I haven't really said. We haven't really talked about.

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Speaker 1: This team has responded all season long.

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Speaker 2: They really have.

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Speaker 1: There have been moments where we're like, both you and

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Speaker 1: I are like, this is getting bad.

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Speaker 2: This is the moment. Well, it's here, this is this

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Speaker 2: is probably.

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Speaker 1: The the toughest it's going to get, or could regular

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Speaker 1: season wise, the toughest. It's it's gotten bad timing. How

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Speaker 1: do they respond? What what type of performance? Two young

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Speaker 1: pitchers back to back do their veterans studs step up

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Speaker 1: Showa and Matthew Boyd. Does their offense perform well? Do

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Speaker 1: they grind out these young kids and and and put

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Speaker 1: up good at bats and and put up some numbers.

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Speaker 1: That's you know, it's it's time to show up. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: next week is when it really matters. But get some wins,

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Speaker 1: get home field advantage that that that'd be nice for

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Speaker 1: everyone to see.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 1: Like you said, we could be talking about something very

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Speaker 1: different in two days or wherever and when we record next.

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Speaker 2: All right, thanks for listening to everyone. This is Northside Territory.

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Speaker 2: on top of all things Cubs. Thanks for listening everyone.

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Speaker 2: Take care, going really hard