1 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Welcome Bird Gang. Yeah, may not be a football Friday, 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: but we've got a game tomorrow. So on today's show, 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: how do the Cardinals do something they haven't done in 4 00:00:16,079 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: more than a decade. That's sweep the season series from 5 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. MJ has his three keys for a victory, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,960 Speaker 1: plus the always popular X Factor. But first, Chris Banjo, 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: a witness to history and a lot of it, will explain. 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:35,080 Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode three fifty four, and it 9 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover two with Craig grigolew 10 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two is presented by Hyundai, 11 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals, and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 12 00:00:53,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: Visit Acy Cardinals dot Com, Slash Podcasts. Murray rolls to 13 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: the right, throws near sight of Fitz Park. He he's 14 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: into the EF the touchdown. Here's Craig Grielou and Mike Jarecki. 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: Some Jay, have you been at a game in which 16 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: a team won because of a hail Mary play before Sunday? 17 00:01:13,040 --> 00:01:17,360 Speaker 1: Obviously yes, I would have been at the Cardinals Vikings 18 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:20,680 Speaker 1: game with Nate Pool catching that touchdown. It was a throw, 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: but it was for the game winner. That's how the 20 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:26,839 Speaker 1: game ended, and they knocked the Vikings out of the playoffs. 21 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: I've been there from Aaron Rodgers like you, but Cardinals 22 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: won those games. That's true. So here's something that I 23 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,720 Speaker 1: found fascinating and credit the Arizona Cardinal's media relations staff. Specifically, 24 00:01:38,800 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: stat was Mike helm because he passed out some note 25 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 1: cards ahead of tomorrow night's game against the Seattle Seahawks. 26 00:01:46,120 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: And of course everyone is still buzzing about the Haill Murray. 27 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury said he had never been a part of 28 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: the game like that. DeAndre Hopkins, Kyle the Murray, never 29 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: been a part of a game in which a game 30 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: was won because of a Hail Mary. Well, Chris Banjo, 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals safety and special teamer. That was his third 32 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: game in which he was on the field for a 33 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: Hill Mary play. You mentioned one of them that twenty 34 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: fifteen playoff game Cardinals and Packers. Earlier that season, the 35 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: Packers won a game via the Helm Mary, beating the 36 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:22,679 Speaker 1: Detroit Lions in Week thirteen. Now, Banjo has also been 37 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: on two other memorable plays with the New Orleans Saints. 38 00:02:28,240 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 1: One was the Minneapolis miracle in which the Saints were 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: eliminated in twenty eighteen, or excuse me, in twenty seventeen. 40 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: The following year, twenty eighteen, Saints lose the NFC Championship 41 00:02:43,360 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: game to the Rams because of a game in which 42 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,079 Speaker 1: no past interference was called. So Chris Banjo a witness 43 00:02:51,280 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: to history, as Mike Helm delving deep into the archives 44 00:02:55,440 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 1: to find that nugget for us here in week eleven. Yeah, 45 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to die really deep there unless you 46 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 1: know somebody obviously knew that he and probably the only 47 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,000 Speaker 1: guy would know is Chris banjol. But that is really 48 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: and let's go back to how you start with this. Kingsbury, 49 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:16,080 Speaker 1: Murray and Hopkins have never been involved in all the 50 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: football they played at different levels. And I obviously Cliffs 51 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,400 Speaker 1: coaching now, but just to be a coach, and Banjo's 52 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: been in three Yeah, it's almost like a no hitter 53 00:03:26,639 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: in baseball. I've never seen one live in person. Yeah 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 1: the hell, Mary, you count the Aaron Rodgers play. But 55 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: of course that was in a loss for the Packers, 56 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 1: the Cardinals winning that game. Yes, that's true. Yeah, don't 57 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: remind me. Although the Cardinals won, so it doesn't matter anymore. Yeah, 58 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: but that I want to stay the Packers. The other 59 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: game against the land I think that was Richard Rogers 60 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: the tight end that caught that pass. Wow, you've got 61 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: a pretty darn good memory. Now do you know how 62 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: long the pass was? I know he was past midfield, 63 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: sixty one yard pass Aaron Rodgers to tie it end 64 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: Richard Rogers. So Rogers to Rogers and that was the 65 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: last go ahead hell Mary touchdown in the fourth quarter 66 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: prior to this past one Sunday for the Cardinals. Wow. 67 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: I mean, people are gonna be talking about this all 68 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: year until something tops it. I mean, I think the 69 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker and DK Metcalf was definitely one of the 70 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: plays of the year, just the fact that he stopped 71 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 1: them and they didn't score and the Cardinals won that game. 72 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 1: But again, I think you look at the first matchup 73 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: with the Seahawks, one of the better games in the NFL, 74 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: and then you talk about a seven and two team 75 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 1: coming to State Farm Stadium, another quality game that came 76 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: down to the end. Buffalo scores the Cardinals. Obviously, you know, 77 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,920 Speaker 1: go viral with the video of Kyler Murray. NFL Films, 78 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it's been a it's been a remarkable, like 79 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: seventy two hours, and I don't think it's going away 80 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,840 Speaker 1: because when you mentioned plays of the Year and then 81 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Games of the Year, the Cardinals are in those conversations. Well, 82 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:07,040 Speaker 1: we're trying to turn the page to week eleven, but 83 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,280 Speaker 1: every time we think we're there, something else pops up. 84 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: For instance, earlier this morning, DeAndre Hopkins named NFC Offensive 85 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: Player of the Week second time in his career, first 86 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: time obviously with the Cardinals, and he wins mainly because 87 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 1: of the Hail Murray, the seventh catch he had in 88 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: that game on Sunday for one hundred and twenty seven 89 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:31,680 Speaker 1: yards and a touchdown. But the big thing is here. 90 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: That's four times now and the Cardinals have had a 91 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 1: player win this weekly award Kyler Murray twice, Buddha Baker 92 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 1: and now Hopkins. Yeah, and Buddha Baker played three games 93 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 1: in a month of October and he was the player 94 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: of the month. Yeah. I mean we talked about Russell 95 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,920 Speaker 1: Wilson has won the award a couple of times when 96 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,680 Speaker 1: he was on fire, and then Aaron Rodgers. I mean 97 00:05:54,560 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: he usually comes down the quarterbacks and running backs were 98 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:59,159 Speaker 1: a receiver. But it's nice to see because you know, 99 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: you had some running back put up big yards over 100 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 1: the weekend and they gave it to hop And I 101 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,719 Speaker 1: think it's just based on the objects and really won 102 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: the game for the Cardinals. Yeah, and how about this 103 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: interesting tidbit. I don't know if you had been to 104 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 1: catch general manager Steve come this morning on with Doug 105 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: and Wolf on ninety eight seven FM, Arizona Sports station. 106 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:22,640 Speaker 1: But how about this nugget bird Gang time knew about 107 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 1: that Hopkins trade. Obviously, of course he would, but it 108 00:06:26,680 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 1: was done, according to the general manager quote, a month 109 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: to a month and a half before news broke. How 110 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,400 Speaker 1: about that sitting on that news for more than thirty 111 00:06:38,560 --> 00:06:42,360 Speaker 1: days and you can't tell anyone outside of owner Michael Bidwell. 112 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: We know a lot of things transpire in the building 113 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: that people don't know about. I mean, I think everyone 114 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 1: thought they were gonna take an offensive tackle and a 115 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: wide receiver, but they checked those boxes and then they 116 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:57,720 Speaker 1: get the best player they feel like was in the draft, Simmons. 117 00:06:57,720 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: So that's the beauty of being inside. We don't know 118 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 1: a lot of times. I mean, we get the press release, 119 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: you know, we can connect dots, But yeah, how do 120 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: you sit on that? And and over that time you 121 00:07:09,520 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: would think somebody would have and I'm glad they didn't, 122 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: whether it was Jack easter Bay or somebody pulls Bill 123 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: O'Brien and said, what are you doing here? Are you 124 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 1: sure about this? It's a gentleman's agreement. Well sometimes that 125 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: gets mess luged, but they agreed in principle. And that's 126 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: fascinating because you know, going to the combine, clearly they 127 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 1: didn't have any interest in drafting a receiver and we 128 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 1: talked about that at length just because of the crops, 129 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: and we know that Jerry Sullivan was at LSU and 130 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:41,119 Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson could have been the guy, but they didn't 131 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: have a second round pick. So yeah, that's good. I mean, 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: do you tell the head coach. I'm sure Kingsbury had 133 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:51,320 Speaker 1: an idea. Yeah, there wasn't just a general manager in 134 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: the owner. I'm sure there was a handful of people, 135 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 1: but people that you had to trust that they weren't 136 00:07:55,880 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: going to open up their mouths and let it spill. 137 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: I'll tell you this though, going into the combine, I 138 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: was asking someone in the building, like, how do you 139 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: rank the top wide receivers in football, and I had Julio, 140 00:08:11,080 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 1: Thomas Hopkins, Mike Evans just because of the Brady factor. 141 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: And I never got a response like that's who I rank. 142 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: And I don't know if they were trying to comp 143 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: who was the comp for the draft picks, but yeah, 144 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: I didn't have any idea. I was shocked once free 145 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: agency opened up, and then you turn around the David 146 00:08:33,960 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: Johnson trade. I was like, Okay, everyone said they're not 147 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,880 Speaker 1: going to be able to trade that contract. And yes 148 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: there was Dende money against the camp this year, but 149 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,120 Speaker 1: they got they got him off the books, and to me, 150 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: that would have been a score just to get them 151 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: off the books, knowing that they invested in Kenyan Drake 152 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,679 Speaker 1: and obviously Jase Edmonds. But yeah, that came out of 153 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: left field and it was like wow. And that's the 154 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,800 Speaker 1: way I felt when he caught the ball the other night. 155 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: Wow exactly. Cardinal certainly enjoying the last couple of days 156 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 1: post Sunday. Although there is some negative news Bird Gang 157 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,679 Speaker 1: we need to share before we kind of dive into 158 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: this matchup on Thursday Night football, and it is a 159 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: official Head coach Cliff Kingsbury confirmed I think what we 160 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:18,720 Speaker 1: all thought was the inevitable, and that is defensive lineman 161 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 1: Corey Peters being done for the season with a knee injury. 162 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: Never thought he was going to play this week, but 163 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: because of the reaction immediately and then seeing Peters carted 164 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: off the field, MJ certainly puts a damper on things 165 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:34,920 Speaker 1: because not only is he a great player, but a 166 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: great later team captain and someone that this team is 167 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: going to miss, both on the field and in that 168 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: locker room. Yeah, we know that Chandler Jones makes a 169 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: lot of money to rush the passer and open things 170 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,839 Speaker 1: up for the other guys. But you know, I think 171 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: we talked about a knee in the offseason after the draft, 172 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: you know, by bringing in Jordan Phillips and then draft 173 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: in two defensive tackles in the mid rounds, and you know, 174 00:09:58,280 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: guys like Zach Allen returning, and you know, you look 175 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,000 Speaker 1: at it and I thought his snapcott would go down. 176 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: It was seventy two last year, it was about sixty five. 177 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: But he was actually moving the pile and that allows 178 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,959 Speaker 1: other guys to come in and get those sacks or 179 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,679 Speaker 1: pressures or hurries or knockdowns, which I think lead to 180 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: turnovers and I'm going to miss that dance. But he's 181 00:10:19,000 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: he's he a futon in the locker room. I mean, 182 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 1: there's not a lot of roulet rot to him. Pretty much. 183 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: When he's talking, you listen and because he again, he's 184 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:31,080 Speaker 1: going to say the truth and sometimes it may not 185 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 1: go well, but players respect him because he knows what's 186 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: going on. So hopefully, you know, things go well with 187 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: the surgery, and just like Chandler Jones, hopefully they're around 188 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: the team because they're guys that people look up to. 189 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: Even though they're out playing. I think they'll know their role, 190 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 1: but just being there for support. Quoting time with Doug 191 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: and Wolfe, he's a natural leader. Talking about Peters that 192 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: are different types of leaders, and he's not rehearsed. It 193 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: comes from the hearts end quote. So we certainly wish 194 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,160 Speaker 1: the best for Peters, who, by the way, is due 195 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: to become a free agent at the end of this season. 196 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: So it's just something to keep in the back of 197 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 1: everyone's heads as far as where this team goes in 198 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,439 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, but where this team goes immediately now. 199 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: MJ is trying to figure out what do you do 200 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 1: when Peters is done for this season. Jordan Phillips still 201 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,959 Speaker 1: bothered by a hamshiing injury. So you've got Josh Morrow, 202 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,680 Speaker 1: Travann Cole, and Angela Blackson as your three healthy defensive 203 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: lineman Zach Allen Richard Lawrence still on injury reserve, not 204 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:37,319 Speaker 1: quite ready to return according to Kingsbury. So that's three 205 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 1: and you'd kind of hope that Phillips is able to go, 206 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: and then of course that would give you four. But 207 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: that's a very small number when you certainly like to 208 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 1: see the rotation to make sure everyone is kept fresh. Yeah, 209 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: and we've seen it since the first week of the season. 210 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: Teams do make roster moves the day of or the 211 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 1: day before they're going to play. So I anticipate one optional. 212 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 1: Michael Dogbee, who's on the practice squad, you can bring 213 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: him up. He's been in the system now for a 214 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: couple of years. Obviously, you know with Brinson Buckner and 215 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: we know he gets the best out of these players. 216 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,439 Speaker 1: And then you're going have to take a look in 217 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: the front seven. What's what's going to happen with Jordan Phillips. 218 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 1: I mean, he's been having a hamstring injury, and you 219 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: know it's a short week. You know, I thought, like you, 220 00:12:21,600 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: he would play against Buffalo's former team, and so maybe 221 00:12:24,040 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: they are hoping to get him here and then get 222 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 1: a little rest. But at the same time, maybe you 223 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 1: just shut him down until he's healthy because you're gonna 224 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: need him in the back end of the schedule. And 225 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 1: then you've got Dvandre Campbell who's on the injury report, 226 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: so you're talking a couple of starters obviously, and then Peters. 227 00:12:41,440 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 1: That's three starters possibly that may not play. We'll just 228 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: wait for the official injury report. So what do you do? Well, 229 00:12:47,640 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 1: we watched Vans starting in the Seattle game, and I 230 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: think he started a trend when it came to defending 231 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson. He did it last week in the second 232 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 1: half on Josh Allen Is. You line up two or 233 00:12:57,400 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 1: three linemen with their hand the dirt and then go 234 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 1: with you know, your secondary sub packages where you have 235 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 1: six basically linebackers and DB's in the game at the 236 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: same time. It's not going to be easy. And if 237 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: I'm the Seahawks, I'm running the football because you know, 238 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 1: we'll find out about who's healthy on the outside. With 239 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 1: Tyler Lockett. But again, I mean DK Metcalf. You know 240 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: he's been up and down, but you know he's still 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,240 Speaker 1: a weapon, still got good speed and size. You know, 242 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 1: we'll see. But it's unfortunate because last week they got 243 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: Kenard and Murphy back and it made a difference in 244 00:13:32,280 --> 00:13:36,079 Speaker 1: that game. The Cardinals will no game day, which means 245 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: neo ninety minutes before kickoff, not only with Phillips but 246 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:42,480 Speaker 1: Campbell as well, who's got that cafe issue that kept 247 00:13:42,520 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: him off the field for a lot of that second half. 248 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: And while we saw a lot of Isaiah Simmons in 249 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 1: the second half, and we talked about him yesterday with 250 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: respects to what defensive coordin at Events Joseph had to 251 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:55,880 Speaker 1: say about Simmons. So that is good news on that end, 252 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: but you certainly would like to have your full complement 253 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:01,560 Speaker 1: of players when you're going up again a Seattle Seahawks 254 00:14:01,600 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: team that is reeling. They've lost three or four, but 255 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,800 Speaker 1: like you, six and three and tied for first place 256 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 1: in the NFC West. But here we are in week eleven, 257 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: MJ and no team is healthy. It's how you deal 258 00:14:13,640 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: with those injuries. How good is your depth? And right now, 259 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 1: that depth for the Cardinals, especially defensively, is being tested well. 260 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 1: And just the fact that you know, they played two 261 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 1: games in five days, they will once the game gets 262 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: here tomorrow evening. Is that you really couldn't bring anybody 263 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: off the street just because of the whole COVID thing, 264 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 1: and now they've got you know, it's more intense when 265 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 1: it comes to the COVID testing just because you know, 266 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: it's you know, teams obviously or maybe getting a little loose, 267 00:14:43,240 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: or they're just worried about, you know, the spread spiking 268 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: in different markets. So yeah, it ideally it's not you know, 269 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:55,600 Speaker 1: you hate to lose any guy, but you lose in 270 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: that game. They they made you know, they made it work. 271 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: But now they've had a couple of days and I 272 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 1: think vance Is are going to try to come up 273 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,040 Speaker 1: something similar to take Russell Wilson off his spot. I mean, 274 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: he had three interceptions and a fumble in that game, 275 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: and he wasn't as effective last week. Also against the Rams, 276 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 1: they had a really good game plan. So yeah, I 277 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: just think that's where the offense is going to have 278 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: to carry their water. I mean, the offense for the 279 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: most part, besides Drake missing, you know, a game or 280 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: two and then j R. Sweezy. The offense has been 281 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: pretty healthy for the most part, and so they're gonna 282 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,840 Speaker 1: have to do their part. And I think Russell Wilson's 283 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: feeling on his side because their defense can't stop anybody. Yeah, 284 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: it is a football Friday here on a Wednesday, ahead 285 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,400 Speaker 1: of Thursday night football. Cardinals Covered two presented by Honday, 286 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. We will get to 287 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,600 Speaker 1: Mike Jarecki's three Keys four victory plus the always popular 288 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: X Factor. But a reminder Berd Gang. 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Visit the 297 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks also six and three, four and oh at home, 298 00:16:29,080 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: though no twelfth Man, no fans in attendance at CenturyLink Field. Cardinals, 299 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: as we know, have been very very good in that markets, 300 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: in that building, in that stadium. I guess I should 301 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:44,520 Speaker 1: say they've won four of five at CenturyLink Field. So Mjate, 302 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: we're putting you to the test. Now. It's a short week, 303 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,000 Speaker 1: so I know you kind of had to strain things 304 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: a little bit and kind of squeeze condense the analysis 305 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: and all the film study that you usually do during 306 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: the week. But your three keys for victory, what is 307 00:16:58,240 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: number one? Number one would be which defense will break 308 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 1: serve first? Because really it's the Cardinals front seven versus 309 00:17:05,880 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: the Seahawks running game. You look at Seattle when it 310 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: comes running the football. You know they're a team that 311 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: is you know, I think they're thirteenth overall, but they 312 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: ran for one hundred and twenty seven yards in the 313 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: first half last game. And you know, we'll see about 314 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 1: Chris Carson, but looks like Carlos Hides dealing with the 315 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,560 Speaker 1: hamstring energy, but he's going to play, and then we'll 316 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: see who their backups are. You start looking at the 317 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: other running back that played in the previous game. He 318 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: had a hand injury, so and they brought Alex Collins back, 319 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 1: he's more of a third down back. So I just 320 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 1: think when you look at the previous meeting, you're talking 321 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: about two of the defenses Craig that gave up over 322 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:48,240 Speaker 1: a thousand ninety one yards, sixty four first down, seventy 323 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: one points. So I would think that, you know, the 324 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:55,280 Speaker 1: Cardinals should want to run the football, but also with 325 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,879 Speaker 1: the other side. Don't get into the other one. But 326 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: I just think the Cardinals front seven they have to 327 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: control that and put them in third and long where 328 00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:06,119 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson has to try to find some open receivers. 329 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: So to me, it's which defense will break serve first, 330 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,120 Speaker 1: and again, I think the Cardinals front seven going into 331 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:13,920 Speaker 1: this game against their running game is going to be 332 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:18,159 Speaker 1: very important because based on the Cardinals lack of depth 333 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: or not missing three starters, I would think Seattle's gonna 334 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 1: try to run the football. They I don't know why 335 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: they didn't try to run in the second half against 336 00:18:25,400 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and quite frankly, I was surprised the Bills 337 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: didn't do it too. You know, obviously they feel like 338 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: they have franchise quarterbacks so they can win that way. 339 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: But I really think that front seven against Seattle's running 340 00:18:38,040 --> 00:18:39,640 Speaker 1: game is going to make a difference when it comes 341 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: to all four quarters. Now it is dealing with a 342 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: hamstring as you mentioned, and then Chris Carson with a foot. 343 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,680 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll is listing Carson as questionable. So again in 344 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: game day decision coming up on Thursday. But those two, 345 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: that one two punch, much like Kenyan Drake Chase Edmonds, 346 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: that one two punch with the Seahawks Without them, I 347 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 1: think that's why you've seen Russell Wilson press and really 348 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: think it's all on his shoulders and why he's made 349 00:19:06,840 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 1: so many mistakes the past couple of games because Carson 350 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 1: had Hide had both missed each of the past three 351 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:16,760 Speaker 1: games for the Seahawks. So for the Cardinals aspects, yeah, 352 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: if the Seahawks can run the ball, they're thirteenth in 353 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: the league. The Cardinals defensively against the run seventeenth, So 354 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: it's almost a wash there. But it would certainly think 355 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: that if you can always stop the run. And I 356 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 1: know it's cliche, but yeah, make Russell Wilson one dimensional 357 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: to where he throws it and keeps throwing it. And then, 358 00:19:37,080 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 1: as you the key word that you said there mj 359 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:43,439 Speaker 1: is third down vanch Joseph after that ball game pointed 360 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,720 Speaker 1: to the lack of third downs in the first half. 361 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: There are only three Seahawks went one of three on 362 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: third down in that first half, and then it was 363 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: in the second half you get to more third down 364 00:19:53,080 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 1: opportunities and coach Joseph can dial up that blitz and 365 00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:58,639 Speaker 1: give Russell Wilson a little bit more different looks and 366 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,639 Speaker 1: maybe shake things up little bit. Yeah, and so my 367 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:07,520 Speaker 1: number two would be the Cardinals wide receivers against the 368 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,639 Speaker 1: Seattle secondary. Now, Jamal Adams, I would say, you know, 369 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: he's very similar to Buddha Baker, may have a little 370 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 1: bit more range just based on his size. We'll see 371 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: how many of their corners are active that are starters. 372 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 1: They do have a young safety next to Adams that's 373 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,240 Speaker 1: on the rise. But if the Cardinals want to start 374 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: them out or they want to go eleven or twelve personnel, 375 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: I think they have an advantage here just because the 376 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:34,840 Speaker 1: situation and Seattle doesn't really rush the quarterback, you know, 377 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: the sacks coming you know, basically by committee. Very similar. 378 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say the Cardinals wide receivers against 379 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:44,680 Speaker 1: that secondary. They have to win those matchups, and that 380 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,199 Speaker 1: means Hopkins, Kirk Isabella Fitzgerald, and then we'll throw in 381 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: one of the tight ends, whether it's Max Williams or Dan. 382 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if they can win that. That to 383 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: me tells me they can move the ball down the 384 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: field and they can get some chunk plays and go ahead. 385 00:20:59,480 --> 00:21:02,400 Speaker 1: I just got a little quick nugget here as far 386 00:21:02,560 --> 00:21:05,560 Speaker 1: as your first key, because now we've got to go 387 00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,560 Speaker 1: backtrack because the Arizona Cardinals have updated their injury or reports. 388 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,400 Speaker 1: Jordan Phillips will not play for a gang. He did 389 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: not practice on Wednesday earlier today after being limited yesterday, 390 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 1: So you can rule out Jordan Phillips as far as 391 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 1: getting some help on that defensive line, and that certainly 392 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:29,440 Speaker 1: now really I think brings a big question as far 393 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: as how do the Cardinals handle three healthy defensive lineman. 394 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: Maybe Michael Dogbey gets elevated to the active roster from 395 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: the practice squad, But I think now going back to 396 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: your point, as far as how many two down lineman 397 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,120 Speaker 1: looks we have seen over the past several weeks, You're 398 00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: going to see a lot of that coming up on 399 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,439 Speaker 1: Thursday Night Football. Yeah, that's disappointing, you know, because he 400 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: missed the last game, and you know, he's a big guy, 401 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,040 Speaker 1: so the hamstring is probably a lot bigger than some 402 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: of these other guys when it comes to the size 403 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: of his body. Yeah, and Ardinal's game a nice five 404 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 1: year deal. I mean, you know, availability and durability. But again, 405 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 1: if he's hurt, you need him for the stretch run here. 406 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: So that's just sticks out Cardinal's front seven versus that 407 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 1: Seattle running game. And I don't know if you can 408 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 1: just go to d Lineman sometimes I think it's more, 409 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, sub packages where you can drop back into 410 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 1: covers take away some of those passing lines. But you 411 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: know they're gonna have to come up advance. I mean 412 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to come with something, assuming they knew 413 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 1: all week that it was a possibility that it wasn't 414 00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 1: going to be out there. But Dogby would be an option, 415 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: and maybe Canard can kind of play a little bit outside. 416 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:37,200 Speaker 1: I don't know so much with just hand it there, 417 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 1: because you do have three outside backers that can rush 418 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: the passer, and Reddick Golden and Kennard and then Josh Morrow. 419 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 1: I think his snaps are gonna have to go up. 420 00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: Didn't mean to interrupt Mike Direct He's three keys for 421 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,119 Speaker 1: a victory, but needed to get that update and this 422 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 1: is baby. Wanted to make sure Bird Gang had the 423 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: complete update as as the injury report. So go back 424 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 1: to number two. As far as the wide receiver cornerback discussion, 425 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:11,159 Speaker 1: Cardinals wide receivers against the Seahawks corners, who, by the way, 426 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 1: once again they will not have their two starting corners, 427 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,880 Speaker 1: Seaquille Griffin and Quentin Dunball ruled out of this ball 428 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: game because of injuries. And that's where I think the 429 00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals have an advantage. I think this is a huge advantage. 430 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,720 Speaker 1: You know, let's be honest. Last week they got a 431 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: little lucky with how Leeval Wallace and Josh Norman and 432 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: you know the obviously it's hed trede Avious White, and 433 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: there's a reason why the Cardinals were he to move 434 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,840 Speaker 1: the ball when they did so very similar. But I 435 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: think you have to win this matchup. But we know, 436 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: and talking to Kenyan Drake today and throughout the course 437 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: of the week, we know running the football and I 438 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: like the fact that they got that one two punch coming. 439 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: And then you know, obviously Murray the X factor. But 440 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 1: I think if they can run the ball, it will 441 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: set up the passing game. But they have to attack 442 00:23:56,760 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: those young players. You know. I'll take the Cardinals all 443 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 1: day when it comes to their passing game against their secondary. Again, 444 00:24:03,680 --> 00:24:05,680 Speaker 1: watch out for Jamal Adams. He is dealing with a 445 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:08,080 Speaker 1: shoulder injury. I thought he made a business decision the 446 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,880 Speaker 1: other day. He could have made the tackle. But he's 447 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 1: a guy that's leading him in Saxon. He's a guy 448 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 1: that will drop in the box. They're going to try 449 00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,359 Speaker 1: to bring him down the box, very similar to Buddha 450 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,399 Speaker 1: Baker and Byber and Murphy coming off the edge. But 451 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 1: I think the Cardinals have to win at the line 452 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,880 Speaker 1: of scrimmage when it comes through their wide receivers getting 453 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: off press coverage, because I do think that's a huge 454 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: advantage for the Red Birds. Murray dropped back forty eight 455 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: times in that first meeting against the Seahawks, and I 456 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,000 Speaker 1: think a lot of that though MJ was you're playing 457 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,520 Speaker 1: from behind, you have to move the ball down quickly, 458 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: and I don't think he or Kingsbury would prefer him 459 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: to drop back that many times. Even with the advantage 460 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,879 Speaker 1: that you just discussed. As far as the wide receivers 461 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 1: going against now the Seahawks backups at corner DJ Reid 462 00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,879 Speaker 1: and Trey Flowers. But I'm sure that that is something 463 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:57,960 Speaker 1: that the Cardinals will pay attention to. And maybe we 464 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:01,640 Speaker 1: go back to Week one. We're hopking gets targeted half 465 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,440 Speaker 1: a dozen. I mean, excuse me, not half a dozen, 466 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 1: a dozen, fourteen fifteen times, just because if you're the Seahawks, 467 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,440 Speaker 1: who are you gonna put on number ten? They don't 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 1: have anyone no, And again that should open up things 469 00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,320 Speaker 1: for the inside. And if they want to stack the 470 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,160 Speaker 1: line to stop the run, you got one on one. Again, 471 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 1: I think it's an advantage on paper. You still got 472 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,240 Speaker 1: to go out there and perform and running your routes. 473 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:28,080 Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think that that's a cardinal. Again, 474 00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 1: they're gonna run the ball, but I think the play action, 475 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:34,719 Speaker 1: the RPOs, the zone reads, you can get those linebackers 476 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: and I really like their linebackers or Team Brooks from 477 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 1: Texas Tech. You know, Bobby Wagner has been a stud 478 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 1: forever in the division. And then you throw in kJ Wright, 479 00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800 Speaker 1: so if they get sucked in, that's when you can 480 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: throw the ball over their head a little bit easier 481 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 1: said than done, though. All right, So first key the defense, 482 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 1: the Cardinals defense and the Seahawks defense front seven, which one, 483 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: as you said, can hold serve. And then number two 484 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 1: that Cardinals wide receiver group against now the second team 485 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 1: Seahawks corners. Number three the third key for Mike direct. 486 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:10,159 Speaker 1: If the Cardinals go in and come away with a 487 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 1: season sweep of the Seattle Seahawks here in twenty twenty, 488 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win the turnover battle. I mean, 489 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 1: it's it's real simple. We know, when you're minus two 490 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 1: or minus three, or you give up a defense over 491 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:25,439 Speaker 1: our special team's touchdown, it changes the in complexion of 492 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: the game. So the turnover battle, I think it's huge. 493 00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: We know that Wilson's you know, I talked to John 494 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,639 Speaker 1: Clayton earlier, not the name drop, but he's a sideline reporter, 495 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: and you know, it listed Russell Wilson with ten turnovers, 496 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: and I read somewhere else it's nine. It was a 497 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: bad snap, and he obviously was recredited with the fumble. 498 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,679 Speaker 1: But again, the last couple of games that teams have 499 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 1: really taken the page from Vanish Joseph. That's a fact 500 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:55,919 Speaker 1: that Russell Wilson. So whoever wins the turnover battle to me, 501 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: and you could say this for every game. But again, 502 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: if it's one over, it's probably not going to affect it. 503 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 1: But if your minus three, that's going to be difficult 504 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: to overcome, whether it's home or away. So I think 505 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: the turnover battle will dictate which team's gonna win. Seven 506 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 1: turnovers in the past two games for Russell Wilson, seven 507 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 1: interceptions in the past four games, including three in the 508 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,879 Speaker 1: end zone, so he is forcing the issue to a 509 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,440 Speaker 1: certain extent. And then you brought up the game plan 510 00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: that Vance Joseph had in Week seven and those three 511 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: interceptions the first three of the season, and now all 512 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: of a sudden, more and more teams are looking to 513 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,880 Speaker 1: duplicate that game plan. What do we say the National 514 00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: Football League is a copycat league? And here they are 515 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: the teams the Seahawks have played since the Cardinals are 516 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: doing much of the same thing, making sure Wilson gets 517 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: different looks so it doesn't get comfortable in the pocket. Well, 518 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 1: this whole let Russ Cooke thing, I think Pete Carroll 519 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: bought into it. And they're throwing the ball more on 520 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,680 Speaker 1: first a second down. The whole idea is when he 521 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: get a lead in the fourth quarter, they they'll want 522 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 1: to be able to run the football. Well, that hasn't 523 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: been the case. They've trailed and they're kind of opposite. 524 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: But I think they're going to go back to basics 525 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 1: and just listen to Russell Wilson this week. I mean, 526 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: has he ever lost three in a row? It's a 527 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: good question. I don't think he has. I don't think 528 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 1: he's lost three in a row. And you know, maybe 529 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: he was in two Thoy eleven, but you know that 530 00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: was when he was drafted. This team doesn't lose three 531 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,400 Speaker 1: in a row. But again, they're not the same team 532 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 1: they were maybe in the month of September. So I 533 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520 Speaker 1: just think you got to protect the ball because you 534 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: don't want to give them a short feel like you 535 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,160 Speaker 1: know what happened with Clowney a year ago, and Kyler's 536 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: improved there, even though he did have the fumble in 537 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 1: the Miami game. Again, I'm not saying they can't come 538 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 1: from behind, but I just think the turnover battle is 539 00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 1: going to be huge in this game because I think 540 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,719 Speaker 1: the ball is going to be in the air like 541 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,000 Speaker 1: it was last time. I think if some team can 542 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,960 Speaker 1: establish the run, that will slow the game down a 543 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: little bit. Yeah, Cardinals turned the ball over twice, Seahawks 544 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:07,800 Speaker 1: three times, including once and over time. And that was 545 00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: the Isaiah Simmons interception that really set up the Cardinals 546 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: and Zingenzalas to come away with that victory on Sunday 547 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 1: Night football. So we've got our three keys for victory. MJ. 548 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,719 Speaker 1: Now the X factor if you will here for Thursday 549 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 1: night football, Kyler Murray, I'm gonna. I mean it's again. 550 00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: I love the one two punch, but he's not only 551 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: doing it with his legs, he's doing it with his arm. 552 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 1: We know he can make the throws. I just think 553 00:29:34,040 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: if Kyler Murray can go out there, and I'm not 554 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: saying he can't turn the ball over. You know, it happens. 555 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: They get paid too. But I just think if they 556 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: can get that one two punch and then he's the 557 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: X factor to put him over the top. And you 558 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: know again, I think, you know, we look at healthy 559 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake and ever since he's been here, you know, 560 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,520 Speaker 1: maybe a couple of games he hasn't played up the 561 00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,719 Speaker 1: par but this offensive line number one in the league, 562 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 1: averaging over five point three yards to carry. I just 563 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: think that Kyler Murray is going to be the X factor, 564 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 1: and we know when the game's on the line, he 565 00:30:07,960 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: wants to ball in his hand. So that's the way 566 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 1: I'm looking at that. Well he is certainly gives you 567 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: an opportunity, even if you are trailing, the opportunity to 568 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: come up with a victory and get back into ballgames 569 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: real quick. You certainly don't like to see it, but 570 00:30:23,280 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: that's what this team has done, it seems like since 571 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, as far as maybe getting 572 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: off to a slow start or finding themselves down one 573 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: score or two scores and then all of a sudden 574 00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 1: having to rally back. It does take a lot of 575 00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 1: energy and a lot of effort to do that. So 576 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: if you can play with the lead, then you can 577 00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: rely on that running game, which is number one in 578 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,240 Speaker 1: the league and number two as far as yards per carry. 579 00:30:47,560 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: I would love to be able to see this team 580 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: come out, whether you win the toss or not, you 581 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: get a stop, or you march down field, you put 582 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 1: seven on the board, and you get the Seahawks to 583 00:30:57,280 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: start thinking to him themselves, you know what, we've lost 584 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 1: two straight, three or four you know, are we ever 585 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: going to win a ball game? Again? If you get 586 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 1: that in the back of their minds, then you might 587 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 1: be able to come away with a victory at Central 588 00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 1: Link Field. Yeah. And I don't think if Pete Carroll 589 00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: team's looking ahead because their schedule lightens up a lot 590 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: after this game, you know. But so the potential for 591 00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: December surge is possible. Now when you look at it though, 592 00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,320 Speaker 1: if this is a game where DeAndre Hopkins, I think 593 00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 1: he's one hundred and fifty yards away from a thousand, 594 00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. Maybe I think he needs one 595 00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: forty nine to one fifty. But if they based on 596 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: their secondary, I think that's going to be the go 597 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 1: to guy and then if anyone else is open. So 598 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:41,600 Speaker 1: I could see Hopkins getting one hundred and fifty yards 599 00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: in this game, maybe one or two touchdowns. But the 600 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,000 Speaker 1: way I look at at it is the Cardinals will 601 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: you know, if they can protect the football, stop the run, 602 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,320 Speaker 1: run it and pass it like the normal things they do. 603 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 1: I like the Cardinals win thirty four to seventeen. Wow, 604 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: that's quite the spread there as far as margin of victory. 605 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: I again, when you have Russell Wilson I'm always hesitant 606 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: because you just never know. We've seen it time in 607 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 1: and time again, especially how many times he rallies that 608 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: team to a victory, especially in the fourth quarter. But 609 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: as banged up as the Seahawks are, and as the 610 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: emotional high if you will, and the momentum, yes, Kylo 611 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,240 Speaker 1: to guard, I believe in momentum, the Cardinals certainly are 612 00:32:21,560 --> 00:32:24,719 Speaker 1: on a roll, if you will. Quick side note, just 613 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 1: an update, one hundred and thirty nine receiving yards. Okay, 614 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,960 Speaker 1: Hopkins would tie the franchise record for fewest games ten 615 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: to reach one thousand receiving yards. That's incredible. But yeah, 616 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: so it's even better, and I think he can get 617 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:43,360 Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty nine. Not being flipped here now, 618 00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: if you want to go thirty one twenty seven, sign 619 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: me up. Because the Cardinals have scored over thirty points 620 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: in five consecutive games. I mean, again, I don't think 621 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a seventeen ten game. I think both 622 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: of these defenses aren't the same what they were in 623 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 1: the past, and we know that they're pushing ball down 624 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 1: the field and Seattle is going to have to figure out, 625 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:07,360 Speaker 1: you know, their situation at center they had to back up, 626 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: and then Guy's got a concussion, and then their top 627 00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 1: two running backs. I mean, on paper, it looks like 628 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: Carlos Hide is gonna go. We don't. Locket's listed as questionable, 629 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: But again, they're not just playing for Thursday Night. They're 630 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,000 Speaker 1: playing for the rest of the season, so I think 631 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 1: those are matchups. But I guess I was predicting that 632 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: Hopkins can get one hundred and fifty yards in this game, 633 00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: and I'm dead serious about that. On Lockett, quoting head 634 00:33:32,800 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: coach Pete Carroll, he looked fine as far as how 635 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 1: he performed on Wednesday's practice, So Lockett is going to 636 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: give it a go, and I didn't think anything less. 637 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:45,240 Speaker 1: But when you're talking about a nice brain, you have 638 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 1: no ideas. So he's certainly going to be less than 639 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. But you could say that about every 640 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,479 Speaker 1: single player on that field, having played on Sunday now 641 00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 1: turning around four days later and playing on Thursday night football. 642 00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:59,200 Speaker 1: This game is big, m Jay because of what it 643 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 1: means in this standings. But certainly I think all of 644 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 1: the nation is looking forward to this contest because Thursday 645 00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: night football all typically the matchups, even on paper aren't great. Yeah, 646 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,200 Speaker 1: and you look at Russell Wilson, now we have to 647 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,279 Speaker 1: go bound to your work. I still think, you know, 648 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: when you look at Patrick Mahomes touchdown interception ratio Rogers, 649 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 1: you're talking about two guys in the top five when 650 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: it comes to the MVP. Boat Now. I listen to 651 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: Chris Collinsworth earlier and he said, you know, he dropped 652 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: him on his list, And so it's really Mahomes, Rogers, Wilson, 653 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: Brady and Murray. They're all in that kind of that 654 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: weave right there. So and we know how difficult the 655 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 1: MVP is. But if this team gets a doubles as 656 00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: your wins, you got to say, based on his rushing 657 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: and passing Kylin Murray at the end of the year, 658 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: he ready for this. He can have forty combined touchdowns, 659 00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:54,879 Speaker 1: it's possible in addition to four thousand passing yards one 660 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: thousand rushing yards. Yeah, it's what he is doing now. 661 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: It's it's mind boggling, a no Bird gang. We bring 662 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 1: it up every single week and it's something we've never 663 00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,319 Speaker 1: seen before. So you just gotta sometimes sit back and 664 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 1: enjoy it. Yeah. Yeah, and I feel like this team, 665 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, both teams probably just light workouts, no helmets. 666 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: You go through the walkthroughs and you know, you get 667 00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 1: on the plane. And again, I do think Thursday night 668 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: that the home team has an advantage, but it's not 669 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,720 Speaker 1: like you're walking into Kansas City to play a healthy 670 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs team. So, and we talked about it earlier in 671 00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:36,120 Speaker 1: the week where it makes sense the NFL schedules division 672 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: games because they just played each other, and now those 673 00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: would be the fourth time that Murray and Kingsbury space 674 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: the Seahawks. There's some familiarity there. But I think this 675 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: Cardinal team they feel like they know what's at stake 676 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,160 Speaker 1: and there can't be any hiccups. And again, if Seattle 677 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640 Speaker 1: plays better, we'll give them credit. But I feel like 678 00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: this team feels like, you know, we match up really 679 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: good with them, and there's certain matchups I think the 680 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,479 Speaker 1: Cardinals have an advantage, and I'm sure if we're listening 681 00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,560 Speaker 1: to the Seattle media, they're probably saying the same thing. 682 00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,240 Speaker 1: But you go back to that first game, Craig Carson 683 00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: gets hurt, and they don't they aren't run the football, 684 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 1: and then you know, all of a sudden, when they 685 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:14,479 Speaker 1: probably look back at the film said that we should 686 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,600 Speaker 1: have ran the football. But Russell Wilson's not running as much. 687 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Now we know he can throw on the run. He 688 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: could stend plays because he's got a strong arm. But 689 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see just you know, 690 00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,080 Speaker 1: I love when the Cardinals go with the hurry up 691 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: offense because they can't make any substitution changes. And by 692 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. We've seen multiple teams when they show 693 00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 1: you a time out or you know they're coming back 694 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 1: from a break, those guys have their hand on her 695 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:41,399 Speaker 1: hips and you know that can be play a role 696 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,359 Speaker 1: when it comes to trying to figure out what they're 697 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: gonna do. So there's a lot of little nuances too 698 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,799 Speaker 1: when they play the Seahawks, but they're definitely familiar with 699 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: each other. Carson got hurt early in that contest. They 700 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: only had five carriers, so it certainly did change how 701 00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 1: the Seahawks attack the Cardinals in that first meeting, and 702 00:36:57,960 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: need to bring up the stakes. Three teams tied for 703 00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:04,080 Speaker 1: first in the NFC West, but the Cardinals at two 704 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:06,560 Speaker 1: and o in the division, you go to three and 705 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 1: oh seven and three overall. You open up a full 706 00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: one game lead on the Seahawks. MJ and of course 707 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600 Speaker 1: you sweep the season series that gives you the tiebreaker. 708 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: But to your point about the Seahawks, and as badly 709 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: as they've played here recently, they can get right quick 710 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: after Thursday at the Eagles, home to the Giants, home 711 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:36,040 Speaker 1: to the Jets, and at Washington. Well I said this 712 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,360 Speaker 1: on one of the platforms. Could have been the Recie Report, 713 00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: but maybe it was Cards Cover two yesterday. But he's 714 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 1: going to break out at some point. I mean, he's 715 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: too good, but I think he is pressing though. I 716 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 1: just think he knows that the defense and again, as 717 00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: the NFL, you got to score points. Teams that are 718 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:56,200 Speaker 1: origin over thirty points. They got pretty good records, and 719 00:37:56,600 --> 00:37:58,360 Speaker 1: there's a reason why. You know, they are off to 720 00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: a five and all start four or five and all 721 00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: start to start the season. So he usually doesn't have 722 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: a lot of bad days. It's just right now. You know, 723 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: their offensive line has always been shaky. He covers a 724 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: lot of those blemishes, but he's had some whiteouts and 725 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,960 Speaker 1: tight ends that you know can help the play action stuff. 726 00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 1: But he's going to break out at some point. Let's 727 00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: just hope it's not tomorrow night. Yeah, exactly, That's what 728 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,759 Speaker 1: you always hope is the case when you have a 729 00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:30,239 Speaker 1: superstar that's struggling and then all of a sudden, you know, 730 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,760 Speaker 1: gets hot. Like you almost prefer that they are hot 731 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: when you play him because eventually they'll cool up. But 732 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 1: I understand the flip side of that as well, because 733 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:42,000 Speaker 1: if you're struggling, it's not gonna last forever, especially with 734 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,440 Speaker 1: the resume, and certainly the skill set of a Russell Wilson. Well, 735 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 1: I don't think we could have predicted, but it was 736 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: the nineteen over three when he came to State Farm 737 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,040 Speaker 1: Stadium and he walked out of there with three interceptions 738 00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: and a humble I mean, we couldn't have predicted that. 739 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,480 Speaker 1: So he was playing at a high level and that's 740 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 1: the reason why he was in the conversation shouldn't He 741 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: still should be? But you look at touchdown interception and 742 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: I think Murray will tip the scales because of the rushing. 743 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: You know what, Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes isn't running like that. 744 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: So yeah, I just think that he's too talented. But 745 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,200 Speaker 1: the cardinal's job is to contain him and force him. 746 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,479 Speaker 1: That makes him villivised, you know, decisions when it comes 747 00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:24,839 Speaker 1: to throwing the football because he is pressing. There's no 748 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: doubt in my mind he's pressing. That's hopefully they add 749 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 1: to that turnover total as far as the Cardinals defense 750 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,800 Speaker 1: to get a couple of more takeaways from Russell Wilson 751 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: and then entire Seahawks offense. A reminder, Bird Gang if 752 00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: you haven't already, update to the latest version of the 753 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 1: Cardinals mobile app today. The update features an all new 754 00:39:42,760 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 1: redesign a home screen experience visit asy Cardinals dot com, 755 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: slash app or more. Now we normally they don't do 756 00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,760 Speaker 1: this because Cardinals play in a you know, retractable stadium 757 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,400 Speaker 1: and the weather is usually good. And it was funny 758 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 1: because if the game was in Buffalo, they're going to 759 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: have like a thunderstrom. Now it's supposed to ran. Earlier 760 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,560 Speaker 1: in the week, it looked bad. Now it's forty to 761 00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:07,719 Speaker 1: fifty percent. So if that's the case, I gotta think 762 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 1: both teams are going to try to run the football. 763 00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 1: This would be the first time, as I look back 764 00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: at the Cardinals, you go to San Francisco, the weather 765 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:19,280 Speaker 1: was great, Carolina beautiful, the Jets a little bit cold, 766 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: and of course Cowboys on Monday Night football. I mean 767 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,359 Speaker 1: they have not had to deal with poor weather conditions 768 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:31,080 Speaker 1: or even poor field conditions. So maybe a second X 769 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,960 Speaker 1: factor tilting the scale it either team's direction. If it 770 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 1: is wet and guy's slipping and sliding all over the place, 771 00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: then maybe that does maybe even the playing field even more. Yeah, 772 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:46,360 Speaker 1: and you know, obviously they play up there, they practice 773 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 1: in it. That's part of it. That's why they have 774 00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 1: such a great home record. But Kyler Murray, you know, 775 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:56,120 Speaker 1: he's regardless of his hand size, he can throw that ball. 776 00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,600 Speaker 1: And we don't know if they had a wet ball 777 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,040 Speaker 1: trick this week where you drop a ball in the 778 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: water and you get as wet as you can and 779 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,400 Speaker 1: then he's got to throw it because the ball is 780 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: a little bit heavier. But usually on Fridays, in this case, 781 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: maybe on Wednesdays, you do situational football, like working on 782 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: Hell Mary's even though it's not really defended, but you 783 00:41:14,719 --> 00:41:17,279 Speaker 1: want to make sure guys are in position. So I 784 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:20,759 Speaker 1: would assume that they have so many people in that 785 00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,640 Speaker 1: front office that talks about the weather and what kind 786 00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 1: of cleats you should wear, so they're not going to 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 1: be surprised. But I do think you know that could 788 00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:31,240 Speaker 1: lead to teams trying to run the football a bit more. 789 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: Thirty four seventeen, Mic Direct, you're predicting a Cardinals win 790 00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 1: first and foremost, but doubling up the Seahawks on Thursday 791 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,360 Speaker 1: Night Football, and then of course an extra long weekend 792 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,879 Speaker 1: before the Cardinals go back on the road at New 793 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: England on Sunday, November twenty ninth, And then of course 794 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: they'll still have one more East Coast trip after that 795 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,759 Speaker 1: when they go to the New York Giants, but that's 796 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: not until December. So certainly, right now the focus is 797 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: on Seattle, and everyone has said the right things, even 798 00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:05,360 Speaker 1: though I was a little surprised MJ that even on 799 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: Tuesday and earlier today players were asked about the hell 800 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,000 Speaker 1: Murray and they answered, and I thought maybe some of 801 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: them would just say, you know what, that's behind us. 802 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,880 Speaker 1: We need to strictly focus on the Seahawks. But I 803 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 1: get it. It was one of those magical plays, one 804 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,319 Speaker 1: of those once in the lifetime plays, those moments that 805 00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,799 Speaker 1: you'll never forget. So I don't blame any of us 806 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: as far as in the media and fan base, as 807 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,960 Speaker 1: far as still focusing on that play yet you have 808 00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 1: to be able to turn the page now and put 809 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 1: that focus on game day, which is tomorrow night. Yeah, 810 00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: and normally, you know, Kyler Murray talks on Wednesday, so 811 00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:43,240 Speaker 1: does Cliff talks on Mondays. Obviously you get the recap, 812 00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:45,880 Speaker 1: and this year we're getting some interviews on Tuesday. So 813 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,439 Speaker 1: really it's the first time that we had a chance 814 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: to talk to Patrick Peterson and other guys. Now, you 815 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: definitely want to talk to somebody that you know, like 816 00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,960 Speaker 1: Buddha Baker. You know Katherine Fitzgerald, who does a good 817 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: job for the Arizona Republic. She has to you know, 818 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,680 Speaker 1: do you do take a look at that film and 819 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,000 Speaker 1: see what I have done differently in all that? But 820 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,759 Speaker 1: I think for the most part, they know what's at 821 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,719 Speaker 1: stake here, and I thought that going into the Dolphins game. 822 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: Unfortunately it just didn't shake out the way the right way. 823 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: But they know what's at stake, and I like the 824 00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: fact that they've said we haven't accomplished anything, from the 825 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: general manager to the head coaches. It's nice to be 826 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,879 Speaker 1: in first place, but you want to be in first 827 00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: place like late in December week sixteen or seventeen, quoting Kingsbury, 828 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: we better snap right back into it and get down 829 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,879 Speaker 1: to business and quote with respects to putting that game 830 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: against the Buffalo Bills in the rear view mirror again. 831 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,160 Speaker 1: Bird Gang six twenty is the kickoff two thirty the 832 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: pregame on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, and then we'll 833 00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 1: talk to you on Cardinal Talk Thursday into the evening 834 00:43:47,400 --> 00:43:50,880 Speaker 1: late nights Cardinal Talk and hopefully we're all talking about 835 00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: a Cardinals win. And then we'll rejoin you for a 836 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,759 Speaker 1: recap and kind of a self evaluation, player evaluation on 837 00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: what happened on Thursday night football, and do that on Friday. 838 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 1: And on that note, we will put a lid on 839 00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: this edition of Cardinals Cover two, presented by a Hunday 840 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:10,760 Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. It's a football Friday 841 00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: on a football Wednesday, if you will, because of Thursday 842 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,960 Speaker 1: night football always an interesting week, so if the Cardinals 843 00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:20,759 Speaker 1: have prepared as such. Special thanks as always to our 844 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:23,920 Speaker 1: executive producer Jim I'm a Hundre or Mike Jarecki. I'm 845 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,120 Speaker 1: preg Riel Lou. We'll talk to you next time you're 846 00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:27,520 Speaker 1: on Cardinals Cover two.