1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:00,560 Speaker 1: Morning. 2 00:00:00,600 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 2: Today's episode contains spoilers for the second episode of Fallout 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: season two. 4 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 3: You one. 5 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: Hello, my name is Jason Hell. 6 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,000 Speaker 4: I'm Mercy Day. 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 2: Welcome back to ext revision of the podcast where we 8 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 2: dive deep into your favorite shows, movies, comics, and pop culture. 9 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 2: Coming to you from my heart, where we're bringing you 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 2: three episodes a week. 11 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,279 Speaker 3: Last news In today's episode, it's Fallout two two. 12 00:00:36,400 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: Baby, you thought that that week would go slow. 13 00:00:38,840 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 3: No, we're already here season two, episode two, and we 14 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:44,239 Speaker 3: are going to be talking about it. I hope you 15 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 3: love Maximus because it's a big Maximus episode. 16 00:00:48,360 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: Fallout season two, episode two. We open in a flashback 17 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: to the last hours of the Shining City on a 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,840 Speaker 2: hill that was the new California Republic, a brief moment 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: of cooperation and coexistence in the wasteland known as Shady 20 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 2: Sands Rip. We meet young Maximus's dad, who has apparently 21 00:01:17,040 --> 00:01:23,039 Speaker 2: discovered a huge aquifer of fresh water. He's just got 22 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: done testing the water. It's completely free, and as Rosie 23 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 2: said last episode, clean water a huge deal in this 24 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: world and a huge deal in the games. 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: You gotta have it. 26 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 2: A trader is on his way into town repeating in 27 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 2: a robotic fashion the same kind of the same phrase 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:47,319 Speaker 2: about the desert. And it's clear after seeing episode one 29 00:01:47,720 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 2: that he's probably got the neck chip in because he 30 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: doesn't look like he's doing great and he is brainwashed clearly. 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: Dad and young Max go over to see what the 32 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:01,520 Speaker 2: trader has brought in the caravan to town, and they 33 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: get there and then are all around the trader and 34 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 2: the traders collapsed and it is continuing to mutter, and it's. 35 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 1: Blood coming from his eyes. 36 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 2: Dad knows something is wrong immediately and finds the chip 37 00:02:16,360 --> 00:02:20,040 Speaker 2: and then looks in the caravan and there's a nuke there. 38 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 2: There's a sigular bomb that will destroy the city. Dad 39 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: sends Maximums home and begins to try and to defuse 40 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:28,680 Speaker 2: a bomb, but he fails, and then runs home and 41 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 2: is like, Max, get in this refrigerator. Everything's gonna be fine, 42 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 2: and we know the rest from If. 43 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 3: It's good enough for Indiana Jones. 44 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 4: It's kind of right you, and it worked. 45 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 3: Younger Hank looks at himself in the mirror, having just 46 00:02:42,480 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 3: dropped the bomb on Shaty Sands, then goes to read 47 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: the wind in the willows to Lucy. 48 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 4: He's a real piece of work, this guy. 49 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: Yes. 50 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 3: Then we go back to Maximus today. He and his 51 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 3: brothers take part in a Ghoul clearance operation during some 52 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 3: kind of strange industrial facility and they find what they 53 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,480 Speaker 3: came for, the red device. 54 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: Is this the artifact? 55 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it's like the real artifact, but clearly 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 3: it's what they're looking for. So they just got up, 57 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:18,079 Speaker 3: head out and back above the Caswanian Caswanan Caswinete. 58 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: I believe it's I believe that's the name of their ships. 59 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 3: Well, I like it, No, just include me saying like 60 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 3: fifty versions of it. 61 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: I don't know the name of every ship. 62 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 3: The brothers applaud Max's success, and Elder Quintus greets him. 63 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 3: Max delivers the item, and this is where I feel 64 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 3: like Max and the Brotherhood need to get it together, 65 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:41,080 Speaker 3: because Quintus is so fucking shady bro Like, don't just 66 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 3: give this man like a magical. 67 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: Red button and be like and he's like, oh, are 68 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:45,400 Speaker 4: you going to you with it? 69 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: And he's like, nothing wrong, only good stuff. 70 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 4: It's gonna be our new home. You know. 71 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 3: We're gonna unify the Brothers and the factions and they'll 72 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 3: all be able to access this huge military arsenal that 73 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: we have hit under the sands. And you know what, 74 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 3: while I'm planning this definitely bad probably genocide or plan, 75 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 3: I need you to know Max, you like my son. 76 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: You're a son to me. You are my. 77 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 2: Sons Christ this guy, Lucy Ghoule and dog Meat are 78 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: continuing their desert excursion. They're bickering in typical fashion, with 79 00:04:21,440 --> 00:04:24,560 Speaker 2: Lucy being nice the Gold being mean. After a while, 80 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 2: as they're passing by this ruined hospital, Lucy hears someone 81 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 2: crying out for help, help me, and the goals fucking 82 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: ignore that, ignore that, that empathy ambthies like quicksand it'll 83 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: drag down. 84 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 4: The on one like that in every episode. Hey hey baby, 85 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 4: don't be able to do that. 86 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Don't do And Lucy's like, well, I'm gonna help because 87 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 2: I can't listen to someone screen for help all the time, 88 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: and goals like, you're fucking stupid. Lucy goes in there, 89 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: and you know it's there, into the ruins of the hospital. 90 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 2: There's an injured woman. There, there's a man who's even 91 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 2: in worse shape than she is. They got attacked by 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: something unclear what. The ghoul immediately kills the other guy, 93 00:05:06,720 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 2: and he's like delicious, starts trying to the flesh is 94 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 2: like gross like for some reason, the flesh is gross. 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: The Gul spits out the flesh and then turns the 96 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 2: guy over and it turns out that he had been 97 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: stabbed by something infectious or poisonous, toxic or gross or 98 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 2: whatever it is. They the things that attacked him, and 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,360 Speaker 2: the woman now bursts out of the pipes and from 100 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 2: dark corners of the room and it's baby rad scorpions 101 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:39,320 Speaker 2: and Lucy in the Ghul begin fighting them, but then 102 00:05:39,360 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 2: a big Mama rad scorpion shows up and it stabs the. 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: Ghoul after she tries. After he tries to use. 104 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: The woman as a human shield, who she also gets 105 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 2: stabbed by the rad scorpion singer, and so things are 106 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:57,000 Speaker 2: looking really bad, but the Goul manages to blow up 107 00:05:57,040 --> 00:06:01,839 Speaker 2: the Mama rad scorpion with some grenades. Unfortunately he is 108 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: now poisoned and Lucy has to choose. Aha, who gets 109 00:06:05,600 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 2: her last stem pack? 110 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 4: Is it? What do you think she should do? 111 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: Here's the thing, I agree with her, So she gives 112 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: it to the woman, with the idea being that the 113 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: gul can live like this like the goal can't really die. 114 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: He's really really hard to kill. You know, you can 115 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 2: bury him underground, he doesn't have to eat, and you 116 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:30,599 Speaker 2: can suffer grievous wounds, including a rad scorpion sting probably 117 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: and live though in pain for a long long time. 118 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: Where is this woman's gonna die? So I agree on 119 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: that kind of like logical level. However, this is the Wasteland. Yeah, 120 00:06:41,880 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 2: and if you want to give this woman the stem pack, fine, 121 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 2: But then Lucy makes the really crazy decision of like 122 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 2: walking her all the way why to wherever she lives 123 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: with whatever weirdo she lives with, And that is where 124 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 2: I'm like, now you got to listen to the goal, 125 00:06:56,520 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 2: because that's stupid as fuck. 126 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 4: Also, the goal has been keeping you alive. 127 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:02,359 Speaker 3: You like a team, don't don't don't just abandon that 128 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: in wasteland like I love you know, she says. Also 129 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 3: there's a great birth foreshadowing where she says, you know, 130 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 3: helping someone out is never a waste of time, So 131 00:07:10,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 3: you know that that means or like doing the right 132 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: thing is never a waste of time. So you know 133 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:16,720 Speaker 3: that means that this is gonna waste a ton of 134 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: her time, which I love and in. 135 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:21,239 Speaker 4: The butts for Bud's vault. 136 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 3: All the folks are now thowed and they are freaking 137 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: the fuck out. Why are we awake? Is it reclamation day? 138 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:32,280 Speaker 3: How long have we been asleep? And Norms like h 139 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 3: and they're absolutely freaking out. So he comes with a 140 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 3: plan and he's like, hey, so, uh, terrible news. Bud 141 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 3: Askins is dead. And that's when we pull back and 142 00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 3: we see that his bud Askins is dead, upside down 143 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 3: in a bucket, Jude brain in a jar. 144 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 4: No more. 145 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 3: Norms like so, basically, you guys are gonna have to 146 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 3: help me find a way to escape this place. And 147 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 3: they all start freaking out understandably, and we will tell 148 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 3: you what else is going on in the vaults the 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:01,760 Speaker 3: bad landes when my back. 150 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:23,000 Speaker 2: And we're at at Vault Tech HQ deep down deep 151 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 2: deep deep deep deep deep down in some vault under 152 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: New Vegas. Hank is testing the ever smaller mind control 153 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: mes matron chips on rats and all the rats heads 154 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,839 Speaker 2: are exploding all of the time. 155 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: He's having no success. 156 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:45,680 Speaker 2: We go to the Brotherhood of Steel and apparently the 157 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: thing that they discovered is the key to unlock this 158 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:54,320 Speaker 2: military facility and this military facility that is now being 159 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: uncovered and is full of stuff they want is Area 160 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 2: fifty one. The vaunted Area fifty one exists, and it's 161 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:08,200 Speaker 2: full of things that they want, including weapons, including fridges 162 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 2: with alien bodies in it. They don't care about the 163 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 2: alien bodies. They care about the working refrigerators. And it 164 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: also appears that there's lots of like pre war human 165 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 2: cultural things here. Chinese statues, art from Europe, et cetera, 166 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:25,360 Speaker 2: from many nations have been like raided and brought here. 167 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 3: Max talks to a young recruit about like, how do 168 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 3: you battle on self? 169 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 4: You've got to do it, It's really important. He's such 170 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:35,560 Speaker 4: a serious guy. 171 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 3: He goes to work on his armor and Dane comes 172 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: to see him, and Dane's definitely a little bit jealous 173 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 3: of Max's rise, and he's like, so, uh, how you 174 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 3: feeling want to quit the brotherhood and just go after 175 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 3: that girl Lucy? 176 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:51,079 Speaker 4: Don't you need to see her? How's she going? 177 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,120 Speaker 3: And and Max is like, yeah, she left, And Dane's like, well, 178 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,680 Speaker 3: you know, I think our boss is kind of rebelling 179 00:09:58,160 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 3: against the common well health edom. 180 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 4: Really no, he's here scavenging the base, and I feel 181 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 4: like Dane. 182 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 3: You could have bought up Lucy before that. Sirens go 183 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: off and boom are the ships are arriving. Quintus is 184 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 3: presiding over the meeting of the Brotherhood of Steel leaders. 185 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 3: One of them is like, hey, where's the Commonwealth? 186 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 4: Many where they not represented him? 187 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: Like where's the ruling fucking class, And Quinces is like, 188 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,559 Speaker 3: guess what, guys, great news don't need him, No Commonwealth 189 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 3: not needed cutting them out, civil war against the Commonwealth. 190 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 4: I think we're gonna be fine. 191 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,600 Speaker 3: And if you basically unite under me, we can stand 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: against the Commonwealth. 193 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 4: Great plan. Definitely, no problems there. 194 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Lucy and the woman she had the stimpact too, are 195 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 2: you know? Walking towards this woman's settlement with Lucy making 196 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 2: her same kind of like innocent chit chat, and the 197 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 2: woman is like, by the way, you should turn back 198 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 2: before you were attacked and sexually assaulted by folks, And 199 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 2: it seems like she's suggesting the people where she lives. 200 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: Maybe yes. 201 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 2: And they then come to a canyon with spooky people 202 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: with torches standing on a hillside and the woman. 203 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Has fucking disappeared. 204 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: We go to the Bud's vault where Norm is trying 205 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 2: to control of this chaotic situation. He basically lies and 206 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: says like, Hey, I am a supermanager, a product of Buds, 207 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: Buds two hundred years of engineering and breeding, and you. 208 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 4: Are my staff. 209 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: Okay, so you got to do what I say. 210 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 2: And in order to figure out which one of you 211 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,960 Speaker 2: has managerial material inside of you, I am putting a 212 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:40,800 Speaker 2: challenge in front of you. And that challenge is this, 213 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 2: find a way out of here. How do we get 214 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 2: out of here? Get it out here? 215 00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 3: He's like, He's like, hey man, this was the last 216 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 3: thing Bud needed you guys to do. 217 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 4: That's right. Do an escape from? Do an escape from? 218 00:11:53,120 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 4: The universal will inevitably. 219 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:58,240 Speaker 3: Build soon that you can play in a tech HQ. 220 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 3: Hank is still there over the plus cryotubes. He's a 221 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,439 Speaker 3: bad guy, thawing out some big heavy hiss. He's already 222 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 3: in People for Free War. Yeah, they paid crazy money, guys. 223 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 3: This is like the big budget, first class double bed 224 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: in your cryo chamber experience. And when you come out, 225 00:12:22,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 3: the vault is gonna be looking beautiful. You're gonna walk 226 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 3: into reclamation day, You're gonna have a house built for you. 227 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,480 Speaker 4: But guess what, just like. 228 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: Everyone who ever agreed to the terms and conditions on 229 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 3: Disney Plus. There were terms and conditions that this man 230 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 3: did not read. And he's like, guess what, bitch, put 231 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:44,959 Speaker 3: your hands inside this creepy machine, and I'm gonna do. 232 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: A little experiment on you. 233 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,959 Speaker 3: And there's nothing you can do about it, even though 234 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 3: you prayed for Amazon Prime, Elite Plus, Cryotube. 235 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, the IP experience. You didn't know that. 236 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Now I can do an experiment on you and make 237 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 3: your head explode. Boom, it explodes. 238 00:13:00,440 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 2: Lucy wanders up to that village at nighttime. There are 239 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: people with torches surrounding her. They've got pigs heads on spikes. 240 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: They're wearing bear heads as helmets. It's looking bad. 241 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 4: Folks looking bad. 242 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 2: And this is I think gonna be one of the 243 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 2: raider factions. But yeah, one the Legion. 244 00:13:18,760 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: Perhaps it's unclear, but one of the raider. 245 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,239 Speaker 2: Factions, one of the factions from the New Vegas game. Meanwhile, 246 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 2: Norms Butts Crew have done it. They have found high 247 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 2: up on the in the ceiling a ladder and they said, okay, boss, 248 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: we found it. Make your way up there. And he 249 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: begins climbing towards the surface. 250 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:46,360 Speaker 3: Which crazy good for your norm. This plan actually worked out. 251 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 3: Maybe you're not as dumb as I thought you were. 252 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 3: We then see that the bos factions are watching a 253 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 3: boxing match between other soldiers and Maximus is kind of 254 00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 3: like she. 255 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 4: Like, fuck, this is not looking good. 256 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 3: It's kind of a very homoeroic can hear a lot 257 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: of repression, a lot of people hitting way harder than 258 00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 3: they mean to. 259 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 4: It's going badly. 260 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 3: And then a huge skinhead soldier towering over Maximus comes 261 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:11,959 Speaker 3: up and he's like, so. 262 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 4: You're the one who killed Lemo Delva. How'd that go? 263 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: And he's like I could take you. Maximus is like, 264 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 3: probably not. I'm gonna go and like read a comic 265 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 3: book or something. And the guy's like, nope, don't get 266 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 3: your armor, don't get your comic books. 267 00:14:25,160 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 4: Come back here, no armor. 268 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 3: War dog fighting is what I think. He calls it 269 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 3: a bare back outrageous. The guy calls it, okay, it's Jay, 270 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 3: it's getting gay. He unsheaths his large blade and you 271 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 3: start to wonder, wait a minute, as this elder quintas 272 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: kind of really the. 273 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: Most power, right, Yeah, That's how I felt about it. 274 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: Because we see in this episode that the Rank and 275 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 2: File Brotherhood of Steel really look up to Maximus. They're 276 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 2: cheering him. They're like everything he does, they're like wow. 277 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 2: And what he tells uh two like Brotherhood of Steel 278 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 2: soldiers who were horsing around grenades to like cut it out, 279 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: They're like, oh, sorry, sir. They immediately cut it out. 280 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 2: So he's got the respect of the soldiers. And the 281 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,680 Speaker 2: sense I got was that Elder Quintus had set this 282 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 2: up to get a rival out of the way. 283 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 3: That's the way I feel about that. I definitely felt 284 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,480 Speaker 3: like that ought to like challenge him. It was very 285 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 3: ym coded, you know, very but uh, Max, as you 286 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: know is is his way, just kind of absolutely loses it, 287 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 3: gets the jump on this guy, starts fucking beating the 288 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: shout of him, opens up his stomach, kills him. Thaddeus 289 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 3: is like, oh this is so gross. Bro. I thought 290 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 3: we were like boyfriends and our little heart living a 291 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 3: peaceful life together. 292 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 4: Like what the fuck? And incredible moment. 293 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 3: Maybe one of my favorite character introductions of this TV year. 294 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 3: As Max is looking beaten and bloody over the dead 295 00:15:56,520 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 3: body of this character, a huge helicopter appears and just 296 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: completely starts fucking shit up Like John Hammond in Jurassic Park. 297 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 3: People are running away, dust is going everywhere. It's terrible, 298 00:16:09,200 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 3: and outsteps none other than Paladin Harkness of the Commonwealth 299 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:18,880 Speaker 3: played by Kamail Nanjoli and guess what, guys, he knows 300 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: about the Civil War and he wants to know why 301 00:16:21,560 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 3: wasn't he in his fancy little suit with his expensive 302 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 3: as helicopter invited. 303 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 2: Let's seek a quick break and discuss this episode and 304 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: we're back. Okay, who again, these are very dense episodes. 305 00:16:51,160 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I think I understand after watching 306 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 3: both of them why they didn't release them in a chunk, 307 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 3: because I think it could have felt yeah much, It 308 00:17:00,400 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 3: could have felt too much like that whole like, it's 309 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 3: not a TV show, it's a movie, which is not 310 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 3: what this is. This is a TV show, it's not 311 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:08,520 Speaker 3: a six hour movie, even though it has the budget 312 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:11,880 Speaker 3: of you know, five movies. I'm sure, but I think 313 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 3: I understand because there's a lot of law in this episode. 314 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 3: It's a lot of Maximus, it's a lot of kind 315 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 3: of the differences in the Volt and norm trying to 316 00:17:22,000 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 3: work out what's going on. 317 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 4: You do not necessarily get. 318 00:17:25,400 --> 00:17:28,439 Speaker 3: All the big action that you would want in this 319 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 3: episode from Lucy and the Gordo, I will say that 320 00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 3: fucking episode where they're working through the hospital and that moment, 321 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:38,159 Speaker 3: that sequence is so scary. It was giving Last of 322 00:17:38,280 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 3: Us vibes. I thought like they really ramped up the 323 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: kind of horror stealth aspects there. But yeah, I thought 324 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 3: it was a really good episode. I loved the Kamel 325 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 3: It was just kind of out there enough. It was 326 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 3: giving me foundation, you know where, like something feels real. 327 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: I know this is not exactly a serious show. There's 328 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: lots of comedy. I love the looney Tunes nature of 329 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 3: the action, like Lucy's inherent kindness with her killer instinct 330 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 3: is obviously going to lead to humor, but the show 331 00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: is very serious. And in that moment with Maximus like 332 00:18:09,400 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 3: killing this guy, there was this severity, this darkness, and 333 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 3: the Paladin partner's character just kind of emerged as if 334 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 3: he was, you know, the random DJ influencer in Foundation 335 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,719 Speaker 3: who you could never have imagined would fit in but 336 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 3: became such an important part of the show. 337 00:18:26,119 --> 00:18:27,280 Speaker 4: So I loved that arrival. 338 00:18:27,320 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 3: I'm really excited to see what he brings because this 339 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 3: is a character who's only previously been in like the 340 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 3: Fallout Shelter in universe game like free to Play on 341 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 3: the phone like, and he is from the East Coast, 342 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 3: basically kind of section of the Brotherhood of Steel. So 343 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 3: I love the idea that he's kind of running like 344 00:18:49,720 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 3: a West Coast Avengers style situation, or he's the real 345 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 3: one and Quintus is running the West Coast Avengers coalition. 346 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm I'm very excited to see because also 347 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 3: seems to me like Camo's going to be having a 348 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 3: lot of fun with this, and I am very interested 349 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 3: to kind of see where this character goes, what it means, 350 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 3: and what it changes about the Brotherhood of Steel, because 351 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 3: we have only really seen this very devout, like you know, 352 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 3: religious inspired version, but I kind of am interested to 353 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 3: see his like fun stylely uniform version. You know, probably 354 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:31,800 Speaker 3: also means he's evil because he's stressed. 355 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 4: Well, so I'm very excited. 356 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,880 Speaker 1: So here's what's interesting. I think that. 357 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:45,440 Speaker 2: First of all, we get a window into the kind 358 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: of different ways that different Brotherhood of Steel groups have 359 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 2: like splintered into their own like little warring factions. I 360 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: think what's interesting is like the Commonwealth which appeared, which 361 00:19:57,520 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: I perceive at least because of have played the games, 362 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 2: and the way that they are treating Palette and Harkness 363 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: is that they are like the more legitimate, the more 364 00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 2: centralized and authoritative Brotherhood of Steel group that is supposed 365 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:20,720 Speaker 2: to be kind of overseeing these other gaps. It certainly 366 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 2: seems that that's what's you know, with Elder Quintesses, kind 367 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 2: of attempting to pull a fast one and not inviting 368 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 2: them like he was, you know, trying to cut them 369 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 2: out so that these Brotherhood of Faction Brotherhood of Steel 370 00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 2: factions could arm themselves and get strong enough to take 371 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 2: on the Commonwealth faction, who it certainly appears that none 372 00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 2: of them are strong enough on their own and potentially 373 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 2: even united without this new weaponry, or strong enough to 374 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 2: take on So that's very interesting. 375 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 1: My sense is that. 376 00:20:56,040 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 2: There's no way Harkness came here alone because at this point. 377 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 1: If he did, you have to kill him. So my 378 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:04,920 Speaker 1: sense is that. 379 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:12,400 Speaker 2: Right outside are going to be several Brotherhood of Steel motherships. 380 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 2: I was gonna say that are gonna wipe out, either 381 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 2: wipe out or otherwise punish this group that is trying 382 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 2: to break away from them. 383 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: That is my feeling. 384 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: Like you might see Maximus immediately level up into like 385 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 2: a leader, because I think Quintus Will is potentially not 386 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,639 Speaker 2: long for this show after this, Yeah. 387 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 4: I could definitely see that. 388 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 3: I also would be really interested to see if the 389 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: fact that they have the helicopter and everything is like, 390 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. 391 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 4: I'm interested to see if they. 392 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,880 Speaker 3: If he has a different vision of how to combine 393 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 3: modern technology and old world technology together, and that kind 394 00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 3: of makes him an outlier because he doesn't seem as 395 00:21:56,760 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 3: archaic as the other Brotherhood of Steel members. I'm also 396 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 3: wondering if he was sent there as kind of an intermediary, 397 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:08,479 Speaker 3: or if he himself has been planning something like this 398 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 3: so we'll present himself as an ally. I'm also really 399 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,360 Speaker 3: interested because this kind of ties into the whole influences 400 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 3: of New Vegas and why the game kind of came 401 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,159 Speaker 3: to be. Was this mixture of like the nineteen fifties, 402 00:22:21,560 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 3: which they love to use in Fallout, and also the 403 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 3: like history of Vegas organized crime and the notions of 404 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 3: like resources in the desert, and that's why the Hoover 405 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,400 Speaker 3: Dam is such an important part of the world building. 406 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 4: In the game. 407 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 3: I wonder if meeting these different factions is also going 408 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 3: to be part of that, Like, is the reason that 409 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,239 Speaker 3: he looks so good, he's got the world, he's got 410 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: the suit? 411 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,640 Speaker 4: Well, is it because he's already a criminal? 412 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 2: Let me So there's another level of this. So I 413 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 2: think there's been some talk about whether Palette and Harkness 414 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:00,159 Speaker 2: is Palatine Harkness for the game or is this and 415 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 2: in for a more notable character from Fallout four Paladin 416 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 2: Dance Now, Paladin Dance of the Commonwealth is spoiler for 417 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: those of you who have not yet played Fallout four, 418 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,399 Speaker 2: and I guess potential spoiler for the show though this 419 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,440 Speaker 2: is now we're just getting into theory world, so. 420 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,399 Speaker 4: You don't want to have the theory. 421 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 2: Paladin Dance is a synth. So the synthetics and I'm 422 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: not going to go to this is just like a 423 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:34,400 Speaker 2: thirty thousand foot view. Since are synthetic are robot humans 424 00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 2: that you know, we're used to replace people in the 425 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:43,879 Speaker 2: Wasteland of the Commonwealth, and this has caused a lot 426 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 2: of stir out in the Wasteland with a lot of 427 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 2: rumors and different settlements that people were being kidnapped and 428 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 2: replaced by people that look just like them but didn't 429 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 2: act like them. And then so these synths are created 430 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: by the Institute, which is a faction centered around the 431 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: the former Ruins of Mit that's highly engaged in science. 432 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,840 Speaker 2: And the Institute had been having a problem where some 433 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,800 Speaker 2: of their synths had been because the Sins have free will, 434 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 2: some of their since had been like I don't want 435 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 2: to do this and had escaped and had been and 436 00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 2: their escape had been aided by a group of humans 437 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 2: called the Railroad that was helping them go to freedom. 438 00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: And in the game, Paladin Harkness, who is I believe 439 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 2: a woman in the game, is what is called a courser, 440 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: and a courser is basically a synth cop that has 441 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: been created that is, you know, very sophisticated, very adept 442 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 2: at infiltration, and basically has been created to hunt down 443 00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 2: escaped since and bring them back to the Institute. So 444 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: I do wonder if Paladin Harkness is not a synth 445 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:56,879 Speaker 2: or possibly a courser, or in any case, not a 446 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 2: human being. And if we are just beginning now to 447 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 2: be introduced to characters who are gonna learn are actually 448 00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:06,480 Speaker 2: not people. So my and so you know, we talked 449 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 2: about the fact in episode one that House doesn't look 450 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:14,520 Speaker 2: like himself on the TV, And so I wonder if 451 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: what's happening is we're starting to get the threads of 452 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:25,280 Speaker 2: the Institute conspiracy, the Institute's role in this overall corporate conspiracy, 453 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:29,000 Speaker 2: and if we are starting to meet characters who are 454 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: not who are actually synthetic robot human beings and not 455 00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:36,560 Speaker 2: flesh and blood human beings. 456 00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 1: And I love. 457 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 2: More to that point, are we going to actually see 458 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:47,200 Speaker 2: Harkness like solo a bunch of brother tote of steel 459 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 2: people because he's not a person, he's aye body. 460 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 3: Did wonder if the as soon as you've said that, 461 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,879 Speaker 3: I was like, okay, episode three, cold open, it's just 462 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 3: him like soloing everyone. Also, this makes a lot of 463 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,680 Speaker 3: sense because something I really love about Fallout and especially 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,879 Speaker 3: like Robert House and the New Vegas stuff, is it 465 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: is inherently tied into kind of the myth of like 466 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 3: Walt Disney and the idea of this like soul Innovator, 467 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: you know, something that is created as a mythology around 468 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 3: a singular person rather than like a reality of collaboration, 469 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 3: same that Disney did with stan Lee. You know, with 470 00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,920 Speaker 3: someone like Walt Disney, it was people like up Eyeworks 471 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 3: who were cut out of that legacy, you know. So 472 00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 3: what I love is how all of those threads are 473 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 3: coming together here because obviously you have the notion that 474 00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,680 Speaker 3: Walt Disney was the reason he was creating these animatronics 475 00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,640 Speaker 3: was so he could put his own brain in one 476 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,640 Speaker 3: and replace himself. And we see, you know, Bud has 477 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 3: the brain in the bucket. They're having so much fun 478 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 3: with our cultural understanding of these different ideas of masculinity 479 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 3: and male leadership. And I think with Robert House, they're 480 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:55,560 Speaker 3: onto something that is so vagacy and so intriguing, and 481 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: I love the idea that he has been able to 482 00:26:57,920 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 3: make these different people. And you know what the interesting 483 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 3: thing is, if you think about the technology of the 484 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 3: mesmetron and the way that we see House using it, 485 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 3: the first version of that can just be taking over 486 00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 3: somebody else's body and controlling it. That is what happens 487 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 3: when you are alive. And then the question is what 488 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,960 Speaker 3: do you do when you die to continue that immortality. 489 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,879 Speaker 3: And obviously the idea of living forever and cryo is 490 00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 3: a huge part of Fallout, and this notion of being 491 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 3: alive for the future while being able to remember this 492 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:29,120 Speaker 3: idealized version of the past. Is this really interesting exploration 493 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 3: of human want. And I just think that this season, 494 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 3: and now that you've kind of put that into my 495 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 3: mind about Harkness, I just think there's so much interesting 496 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 3: stuff that suits the Vaga setting too, because think about like, 497 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 3: that's the first place that they had like holographic performers, 498 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: and it's also where people would stay for years, and 499 00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 3: it's where you know, when you watch something like Blade 500 00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 3: Around of twenty forty nine, they have holographic Elvis, or 501 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,720 Speaker 3: you watch an old movie they have an animatronic version 502 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 3: of Frank Sinatra. I think there's so many interesting ways 503 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,040 Speaker 3: that this can tie in to the Vegas setting, which 504 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 3: I think is why New Vegas is so beloved, is 505 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 3: because they didn't just set it there because they thought 506 00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:07,520 Speaker 3: it would look cool. They tied it in to the 507 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:12,600 Speaker 3: history and cultural conflicts that have shaped it. And I guess, Jason, 508 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,800 Speaker 3: do you think we're going to see any kind of 509 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:21,200 Speaker 3: similar water conflict or Hoover Dam showdown in this iteration 510 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 3: because we know that they're going to branch out and 511 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,680 Speaker 3: this is more of a setting. But I could imagine 512 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 3: an incredible like gang war showdown on the dam or something. 513 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: I think. 514 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: I think we're going to get that towards the end 515 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,879 Speaker 2: of this season. And I think the end of this 516 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,240 Speaker 2: season is going to keep drawing us east. I think 517 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 2: we've you know, we've done the West Coast and the 518 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 2: ruins around the California Republic. We were in New Vegas 519 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 2: kind of world right now, and I think we simply 520 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 2: must move east towards the Commonwealth and see what stories are. 521 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:56,560 Speaker 1: There for us. 522 00:28:56,600 --> 00:29:01,040 Speaker 2: And I think I'm theorizing that it will have a 523 00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,719 Speaker 2: lot to do with the Institute and the possibility that 524 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 2: the Institute has replaced some of the people that are 525 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: involved in the conspiracy currently, like what if some of 526 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 2: you know, I think we're gonna find out some maybe 527 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: some vaut people are since tofine find out that the 528 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 2: Robert House that exists in this world is a synthetic, 529 00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:27,480 Speaker 2: and so I think that that's where we're. 530 00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: Going, Okay, Jason, Another thing I wanted to speak to 531 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 3: about that I thought was really interesting about this episode, 532 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 3: and I would love to know your thoughts on this 533 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,200 Speaker 3: because we talked a lot about, like, you know, the 534 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 3: way that Asian American people and Asian people in general 535 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: are represented in media something the show here. I think 536 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 3: that is doing is really interesting And obviously this is 537 00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:47,880 Speaker 3: like tenemount part of the game too, but like, how 538 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 3: does it feel to see the way that they are 539 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 3: upending these kind of notions of like the Chinese American 540 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 3: nuclear war and China is this anti American thing? And 541 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 3: how kind of more exploring it as oh America used 542 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,479 Speaker 3: that as a sy up in these corporations used as 543 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 3: a sioup to fuck with people. How does that feelization, Yeah. 544 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 2: I think it's quite interesting, and I think it makes 545 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 2: it it's an important I think it's a very interesting 546 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 2: decision in the context of a game that is set 547 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:26,720 Speaker 2: in this retro future Cold war setting, this idea that 548 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:38,480 Speaker 2: corporations so concerned by growing progressivism, socialism, and possibly communism 549 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 2: that they must take control of, you know, the world 550 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,800 Speaker 2: governments and the United States of America by any means 551 00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 2: necessary in order to preserve some form of capitalism and 552 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 2: bureaucratic corporate control structures. And I mean it's also very 553 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 2: interesting that like, despite all that, the Vault system is 554 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:08,120 Speaker 2: like quasi socialist in the way like everybody has a 555 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: job and like has given a job and has a 556 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 2: role within the structure and is also has to like 557 00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 2: apply for a license to like marry a certain person 558 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,120 Speaker 2: because of like the very pressing genetic. 559 00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: Issues down there. 560 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 2: It's all I think, it's all very interesting, and certainly 561 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:32,840 Speaker 2: to learn as in the game that. 562 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,719 Speaker 1: The that the war was a psyop is pretty fascinating. 563 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited to see them explode that more. 564 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 4: And I love the kind of stuff. 565 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 3: You were pointing out that just about like the realities 566 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: of this really being about control, And I kind of 567 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 3: love the show that is this wacky way You're getting 568 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,960 Speaker 3: giant scorpions poisoning people and a cool Western guy who's 569 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 3: like a Freddy Krueger anti hero, and a cutesy kind 570 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 3: of English actor who's like super bubbly and all. 571 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 4: These genre trappings. 572 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 3: There is something very interesting at the center of these stories, 573 00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:09,720 Speaker 3: and I kind of love, just like it was with 574 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 3: Starship Troopers, you know, with these kind of big, bombastic 575 00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,200 Speaker 3: storytelling adventures that happen within these more obviously like militarized 576 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 3: or first person shooter or action spaces, you can get 577 00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 3: away with a lot of subversive conversation and communication within them, 578 00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 3: and I love that the show is continuing that and 579 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: understanding that, like, yeah, is somebody going to be educated 580 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 3: about like the entire history of capitalism by the show 581 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 3: on Amazon Prime. No, but could it start somebody thinking 582 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,320 Speaker 3: about the different ways that these systems work and maybe 583 00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 3: why they aren't always so great? Yes, And I think 584 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 3: that is really cool. And I still do think this 585 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,400 Speaker 3: show succeeds in that. 586 00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: I will say, I do. 587 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Think it's one of the most ingenious details of capitalism. 588 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: Absolutely in a sense, it's a regime, right, but the 589 00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 2: philosophy allows for space for criticism and for messages and 590 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 2: content that directly criticize and even call for the overthrow 591 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 2: of the system, as long as that message finds its 592 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800 Speaker 2: monetary value within the system itself. 593 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 3: Yes. 594 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 2: Yes, So basically it's saying, okay, creating this kind of 595 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: like appy anti capitalist, anti corporate story is very interesting. 596 00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 2: But it's only interesting if it's not interesting for the content. 597 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 1: Of its message. 598 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:46,920 Speaker 2: It's interesting for the monetary value of its message to 599 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: the consumers who find it interesting. And therefore that is 600 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 2: why it has a place in the overall structure of capitalism. 601 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 2: I mean, that's kind of why capitalism is so formidable, 602 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 2: you know what I mean? 603 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,280 Speaker 3: Truly, And you actually a blowing my mind because when 604 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 3: you think about it. Isn't that like the constant critique 605 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 3: where people will be like, how can people watch Star 606 00:34:04,640 --> 00:34:07,600 Speaker 3: Wars and not realize they're the bad guys? It's like, 607 00:34:07,800 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 3: because the entire system is made so that if you 608 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,400 Speaker 3: don't want to think about it, you don't don't have 609 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 3: to think about it, and if you do want to 610 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,879 Speaker 3: get that reading from it, you can. And you're right, 611 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 3: that's such an interesting kind of wrinkle of capitalism or actually, 612 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:27,319 Speaker 3: like you know, perfectly ironed out plan of capitalism is like, yeah, 613 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 3: you can critique it, you can say it's bad, but 614 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 3: you know what, you still need to feed your family. 615 00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,959 Speaker 3: So if you're going to put that show on about 616 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,480 Speaker 3: how it's bad, you better put it on the and 617 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: by the corporation that you're critiquing, you know it's And 618 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:43,879 Speaker 3: that's before we even get into the idea of like, 619 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 3: you know, video games and the company that made this 620 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,239 Speaker 3: and the issues that all video games companies have had. 621 00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:55,560 Speaker 3: It's it's intentionally very complicated, and I think actually, as 622 00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 3: we move forward, this is going to become more of 623 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: a thing because this was one of my base issues 624 00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 3: with The Running Man. I feel like this is going 625 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 3: to become as our world of dystopian fiction collides with 626 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 3: our real world and our kind of understanding of what 627 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 3: has been going on for a long time in America 628 00:35:12,239 --> 00:35:16,799 Speaker 3: and other countries. Is like, these shows stop being as 629 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 3: easy to just go like, oh yeah, I'm on the ride, man, 630 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 3: I ride for these people. You start going, Okay, well, 631 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,080 Speaker 3: who's making them and what's the intention? And where do 632 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 3: they go? And how do I watch them? And it's 633 00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,239 Speaker 3: deeply intriguing time to be somebody who cares about and 634 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 3: likes this stuff. 635 00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,800 Speaker 2: Well, we're going to continue covering Fallout, among other things. 636 00:35:35,800 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: On the next episode of Extra Vision. We're celebrating the. 637 00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 2: Holidays with our list of best Santas in film. 638 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,480 Speaker 1: You wost it for this episode. 639 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:47,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, Bye x ray Vision is hosted by 640 00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 2: Jason Concepcion and Rosie Knight and as a production of 641 00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 2: iHeart Podcast. 642 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 3: Our executive producers are Joel Monique and Aaron Kaufman. 643 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:57,399 Speaker 1: Our supervising producer is Abusafar. 644 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: Our producers are Common Dean Jonathan and Bay Wack. 645 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,600 Speaker 2: A theme song is by Brian Vasquez, with alternate theme 646 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 2: songs by Aaron Kaufman. 647 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,480 Speaker 3: Special thanks to Soul Rubin, Chris Lord Kenny Goodman and 648 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 3: Heidi our discord moderator