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Speaker 1: the time, the run sets up the pass. But it

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Speaker 1: not on this subject. It's Cardinals Cover two, episode four

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, and it starts now. Welcome to Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: two with Craig Grigolu and Mike Jarecki. Cardinals Cover two

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Speaker 1: and by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. Visit asy Cardinals dot com,

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Speaker 1: Slash podcasts. Murray rolls to the right, throws near sight

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Speaker 1: because it was overshadowed by Game one of the NBA Finals.

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Speaker 1: Shout out to the Suns. By the way, the match

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Speaker 1: a full disclosure, I didn't. I didn't watch all of it. Again,

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Speaker 1: how about this little nuggets from fitz. Of course, everyone

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Speaker 1: to know. End quote fitz we're asking you the same question.

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Speaker 1: How do you get off asking someone else about their

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Speaker 1: was hoping that Aaron Rodgers would say, Hey, Larry, you're

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Speaker 1: it on, fits go, well what about you? Will you

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Speaker 1: that don't know this, Larry got a chance to golf

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Speaker 1: I went toe surgery. He says he's fine. But I

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Speaker 1: do like this pairing of Edmunds and James Connor just

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Speaker 1: because they offer two different things for this offense as

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Speaker 1: far as maybe the speed shiftinginess of an Edmonds and

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Speaker 1: then the bruiser between the tackles James Connor. If we

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Speaker 1: were having a conversation that James Karner was number one,

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Speaker 1: then I would have some concern just because of the

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Speaker 1: injury bug. But when you look at him, he's not

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Speaker 1: going to get the ball twenty five times a game.

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Speaker 1: I mean again, if the team can get a lead,

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Speaker 1: like his size six one two thirty three, he's a

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Speaker 1: big back and so hopefully when the Cardinals in the

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Speaker 1: short yard of situations that he'll be the guy. Now,

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Speaker 1: obviously he's not like Edmonds or Kyler Murray couldn't pick

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Speaker 1: up a first down, but you know he's on a

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Speaker 1: one year deal. Obviously wants to prove himself. It's a

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Speaker 1: great stories. You know, another guy that hit the reset button.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's he played at the University of Pittsburgh,

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Speaker 1: he played for the Steelers, and now he's in the

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Speaker 1: West Coast, and again when it comes to the bodies,

447
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Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about that cold weather in that

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Speaker 1: field at Hinz Field and all that other stuff. But

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Speaker 1: you know, he's playing for a contract, and so more

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Speaker 1: power to him. Put up numbers and again and see

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Speaker 1: what you're worth. But if he was a top running back,

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Speaker 1: I would have some concerns. I like the fact that

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Speaker 1: they're going with the one two punch. You know what

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Speaker 1: you're getting with James Connor, And I like what Saxon

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Speaker 1: had to say this offseason on The Big Red Rage

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Speaker 1: asked about Connor quotes, He's a downhill runner. There's no

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Speaker 1: b s playing and simple. If you need a yard

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Speaker 1: or two or three, or you're at the goal line,

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Speaker 1: James Connor most likely is going to be that running

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Speaker 1: back behind or next to Kyler Murray. Not saying Chase

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Speaker 1: Edmonds can't do it. I think he can. But when

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Speaker 1: you have two options MJ's it's simple, what are you

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Speaker 1: gonna do? Where do you feel your most confident and

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Speaker 1: comfortable as far as gaining that first down or getting

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Speaker 1: that touchdown? Is it Chase Edmonds or James Connor. Maybe

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Speaker 1: it depends on how those players are doing performing that

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Speaker 1: particular Sunday, But I do think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: Chase Edmonds, depending on you know, I think Edmonds will

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Speaker 1: get the starts, and I know we focus a lot

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Speaker 1: on starts, but it's just one snap. So if the

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Speaker 1: Cardinals are starting inside the ten yard line for whatever

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Speaker 1: reason because of a long return or a takeaway, maybe

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Speaker 1: Edmunds doesn't get to start. Maybe it is James Connor.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there will be a natural separation

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Speaker 1: that we'll be able to tell when it's time to

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Speaker 1: run Chase Edmonds and when it's time to run James Connor.

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Speaker 1: And I do think there's a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: little bit of change in philosophy of what they want

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Speaker 1: to do this year. And obviously with the promotion of

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Speaker 1: Sean Coogler being the you know, the run game cord.

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Speaker 1: He was always you know, in the game plan, along

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Speaker 1: with James Sexon and also Steve Hyden and al Sean Jefferson.

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Speaker 1: But they want to run the ball and that's one

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Speaker 1: of his go to is his zone read downhill. So

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Speaker 1: that's the way they're like the block. We know that

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Speaker 1: this team can is capball blocking. They over the last

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Speaker 1: two years they've been in one of the better running

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Speaker 1: teams Jazz that hasn't looked like you know it did

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Speaker 1: maybe the first or two years ago, late in the

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Speaker 1: season last year. But they're gonna want to run the football,

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Speaker 1: utilized play action and when you get a guy like

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Speaker 1: James Connor and shortyard of situations, I mean he may

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Speaker 1: have more touchdowns than Edmonds in the red zone. Now

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Speaker 1: Kylin Murray obviously you know he had eleven last year, correct,

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Speaker 1: Kenyan Drake had ten. Chase Edmonds had won, So the

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Speaker 1: numbers can fluctuate. I know that's probably more for fantasy,

497
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Speaker 1: but he fits the profile what they want to do

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Speaker 1: when this team can run downhill and not saying that

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Speaker 1: Chase can't do it because Chase, I think based on

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Speaker 1: his size, sometimes he's line backers can't see them and

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Speaker 1: that's why if they all those twenty yard runs he

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Speaker 1: had four touchdowns twenty plus one was a twenty nine

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Speaker 1: yard run. He just runs right up the middle and

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Speaker 1: we know the easier way to get to the end

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Speaker 1: zones north and south. The interesting aspects about those two

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Speaker 1: players is how many times we see them on the

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Speaker 1: field at the same time. I know there were a

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Speaker 1: handful of times in which we did see Kenyan Drake

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Speaker 1: and Chase Edmonds together on the football field. I just

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Speaker 1: I think we might see two running backs on the

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Speaker 1: football field a lot more. I don't know if they'll

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Speaker 1: both be in the backfield. I do think Edmonds has

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Speaker 1: that capability of catching the ball and it might just bend.

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Speaker 1: If you know, how is Christian Kirk performing, How is

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Speaker 1: Rondel Moore picking up the offense? What about Andy Isabella,

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Speaker 1: Kishan Johnson. If you need a Chase Edmonds or just

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Speaker 1: that different look to a defense where you have a

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Speaker 1: running back in the backfield and then they motion out

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Speaker 1: or they once the ball is snapped, all of a

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Speaker 1: sudden they become the safety valve as opposed to the

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Speaker 1: tight end or in addition to the tight end. Then

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Speaker 1: you can have Kyle the Murray look over the middle

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Speaker 1: and dump it off to Edmonds and let him do

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Speaker 1: what he does best. Yeah, it'd be curious because you know,

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Speaker 1: you look at James Connor. He wasn't targeted a ton

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Speaker 1: over the last three years, and that's just the offense.

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Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger is known to push the ball down the field.

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Speaker 1: They throw to the their tight ends a ton, but

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Speaker 1: he was in there, you know, getting his nose dirty,

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Speaker 1: you know, trying to get you yards after a contact.

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Speaker 1: But I just think Rondel Moore, I mean I could

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Speaker 1: see Rondell Moore and Chase Evans on the field together.

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Speaker 1: I can see James Connor and Rondel Moore because you

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Speaker 1: want to get your playmakers out there, and I'm just

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Speaker 1: intrigued with Rondel Moore. I think I don't know if

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Speaker 1: he's a Swiss Army knife. I know he can return

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Speaker 1: kicks and punts and that's where he's going to get

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Speaker 1: his feet wet. He'll get comfortable and confident there. Hopefully

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Speaker 1: he can find a sliver and take one off to

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Speaker 1: the races. But just his skill set, they can do

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Speaker 1: so many different things in this offense. But again, and

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Speaker 1: Jonathan Awards more of a special teams player, and you

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Speaker 1: can have enough, have enough of those guys. You know.

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Speaker 1: Obviously he's I think it would be third on the

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Speaker 1: depth chart, but they really like his upside. I think

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Speaker 1: he's getting better in passional detection, where you are the

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Speaker 1: safety net for the quarterback to get hit. Hopefully they're

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Speaker 1: not in that situation. But I just think Chase overall

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Speaker 1: skill set gives them more on the offense. From catching

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Speaker 1: the ball in the open field, he can make guys miss.

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Speaker 1: Connor's a little bit different. He's again more of a runner.

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Speaker 1: But if teams want to load the box and you

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Speaker 1: got two running backs back there, you throw the ball

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Speaker 1: in a flat to him. He's gonna get yards after catch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: no question who number one number two are or two

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Speaker 1: and one. I mean, I think sometimes they can be interchangeable,

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Speaker 1: but as far as depth chart is concerned, the top

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Speaker 1: two are solidified. The question is what happens after Edmonds

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Speaker 1: and Connor. We'll get into that here momentarily, but I

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Speaker 1: do need to remind your Bird gang if you haven't already,

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Speaker 1: I strongly recommend episode three, season four of Cardinal's Flight Plan.

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Speaker 1: course offseason workouts, OTA's and mini camp and that will

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Speaker 1: presented by Hunday, proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. Looking

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Speaker 1: at the running back position. Who else is on this roster?

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Speaker 1: You got a couple of guys who were on the

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Speaker 1: roster a year ago, Calfani Muhammad and Jonathan Warred along

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Speaker 1: with Eno Benjamin. Now Benjamin inactive for all sixteen games

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Speaker 1: last season, The Cardinals twenty seventh round draft pick Muhammad

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Speaker 1: spent about a month on the practice squad. The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: liked enough of him to sign him to a futures

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Speaker 1: contract and then ward saw action in fourteen games. But

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Speaker 1: to your point, MJ mainly on special teams, so he

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Speaker 1: has the eye of Jeff Rogers. Only played four offensive

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Speaker 1: snaps and one of those was at the Rams in

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Speaker 1: Week seventeen. Probably will go down as an answer to

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Speaker 1: a trivia question, Chris Traveler's first career touchdown toss went

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Speaker 1: to Jonathan Ward week seventeen, with a playoff berth on

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Speaker 1: the line. Certainly, probably not when any Cardinal fan wanted

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Speaker 1: to see or remember long term when you're talking about

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Speaker 1: that game. But those are three names also new to

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Speaker 1: the roster. Tav And Feaster six ft two hundred and

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Speaker 1: twenty one pounds signed with the Jaguars as an undrafted

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Speaker 1: rookie free agent a year ago and spent some time

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Speaker 1: with the Lions and Giants on their practice squad. So

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Speaker 1: four additional running backs on the roster that will be

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Speaker 1: looking for playing time. But to your point, I do

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Speaker 1: think Ward, if you're going order one through six, Ward

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Speaker 1: would be number three at least in my opinion. We've

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Speaker 1: talked about, you know, the Cardinals still looking to get

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Speaker 1: me pass catching tight end. I think they liked their

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Speaker 1: blockers and Max Williams and Drill Daniels, and they got

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Speaker 1: a couple of undrafted free agencyre one's really a good blocker,

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Speaker 1: and one can catch the ball. And of course we

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Speaker 1: can't forget about our guy Bernhard psychovits psycho psycho. Anyways,

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Speaker 1: I think running back could also be on the radar.

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Speaker 1: Are they comfortable enough to go into the season with

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Speaker 1: four backs. Who's the fourth back? Because Jonathan Ward borrying

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Speaker 1: how he plays, I think he's going to be active

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Speaker 1: on game day. You don't want, you know, Chase Evans,

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Speaker 1: Probably he's going to be off off special teams. I

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Speaker 1: could be wrong, but that's another area where it wouldn't

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Speaker 1: surprise me. And it's nobody coming in here to take jobs.

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Speaker 1: It's just you want to have depth at that position

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Speaker 1: based on Chase staying healthy and James Conner staying healthy.

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Speaker 1: So if I had a prioritize that we could see additions,

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Speaker 1: whether it happens the first week of camp or during camp,

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Speaker 1: and they'll figure it out when they see these players

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Speaker 1: and have to wait and see how eno Benjamin mixes in.

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Speaker 1: But I would think tight end and running back more

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Speaker 1: for depth than anything else. Yeah, you get to training camp,

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Speaker 1: maybe you've already seen something to where all right, we

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Speaker 1: really need to address this position. But how about we

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Speaker 1: wait until training camp. Maybe something happens over those five six,

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Speaker 1: seven weeks and someone steps up and that running back position.

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Speaker 1: Who steps up outside of maybe Jonathan Ward or maybe

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Speaker 1: in addition to Jonathan Warred to become that fourth guy.

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Speaker 1: And I know we talked a lot about Rondel Moore

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Speaker 1: being in the mix and also Kyler Murray. So you know,

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Speaker 1: do you go lights at the running back position, because

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Speaker 1: you know, unless they can play special teams, you're not

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Speaker 1: going to have your fourth running back active or even

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Speaker 1: maybe on the roster if they're not, if they're just

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Speaker 1: there for running back duties and don't have a role

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Speaker 1: on special teams. I mean, if they to me, I'm

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Speaker 1: I would go into the season with two quarterbacks. Try

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Speaker 1: to put streveling practice squad. You can go into season

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Speaker 1: with three running backs. You can put a couple on

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Speaker 1: the practice squad. I'm just saying a couple of years

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Speaker 1: ago they had brought in Zach Zenter and Elfred Morris.

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Speaker 1: You just deposition and if I was talking about David

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Speaker 1: Johnson and look at the body of his body of

643
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Speaker 1: work in his size and he couldn't stay healthy and

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Speaker 1: his running style was different. So it's more for insurance.

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Speaker 1: But they I mean, depending on you know, do they

646
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Speaker 1: just six receivers. You know, is Isabella inactive all year

647
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Speaker 1: and we're gonna have to wait just based on how

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Speaker 1: he performs in training camp in the preseason games. But

649
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Speaker 1: you want to have some depth at that position. So

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Speaker 1: I think they're good with the top three. It's a

651
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Speaker 1: matter of who's that fourth guy. And let's talk about

652
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Speaker 1: the elephant in the room. Is Eno Benjamin, the former

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Speaker 1: as U Sun devil, certainly fan favorites here in the

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Speaker 1: state of Arizona, and someone MJ that people were asking

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Speaker 1: about constantly, maybe even weekly, because yeah, you're drafted. It's

656
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Speaker 1: a Day three pick, so it's difficult for those days

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Speaker 1: re picks to let alone make the roster but be

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Speaker 1: active on game day. Not only did you know Benjamin

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Speaker 1: make the roster, but he was inactive on game day.

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Speaker 1: He was in street clothes for all sixteen games last season,

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Speaker 1: and it was because of his inability to play on

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Speaker 1: special teams. People always ask, well, why is Jonathan Ward

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Speaker 1: active and not Eno Benjamin. Well, Benjamin might be a

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Speaker 1: better running back, but Jonathan Ward can be a running

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Speaker 1: back and help on special teams. If you're not able

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Speaker 1: to play special teams, you do mean no good because

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Speaker 1: I already have two running backs or three running backs

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Speaker 1: ahead of you. So for Eno Benjamin, hopefully something clicked

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Speaker 1: this offseason to where he can be on kick return,

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Speaker 1: kick coverage, punt return, punt coverage. Otherwise, you know what,

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Speaker 1: he might find himself inactive again, or worse, he might

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Speaker 1: not find himself on this roster. The thing is, I

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Speaker 1: always thought he was going to be a third day pick,

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Speaker 1: and that means, you know, rounds four through seven. You know.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, also I want to be fair to

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Speaker 1: the story. I mean, a freshman quarterback, freshman center, a

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Speaker 1: freshman left tackle. He did put the ball in the carpet.

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Speaker 1: But what does he do special? I think he does.

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Speaker 1: I think he can run between the tackles, he can

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Speaker 1: catch the ball to backfield. I don't know how he

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Speaker 1: is in past protection, so nothing really sticks out, But

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he can't make the roster just based

683
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Speaker 1: on social media. I think the worst thing that happened

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Speaker 1: for him last year, he can get a chance to

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Speaker 1: play in the preseason and amongst those rookies that lost

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Speaker 1: significance reps practice time, that all of a sudden, now

687
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Speaker 1: you're thrown into the mix and you're way behind everyone else.

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Speaker 1: Well I mean, granted, I mean, who knows Kennyan, Drake

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Speaker 1: and Chase would have got some reps. But at that

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Speaker 1: point you look at Jonathan Ward and you look at

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Speaker 1: you know, Benjamin, and I don't care. If he was

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Speaker 1: going against second and third string, he could have showed

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Speaker 1: some upside when they had their run and white practice.

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Speaker 1: I mean he made some plays and that it's not

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Speaker 1: as scrimmage as a practice. They all missed it. But

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Speaker 1: he had to show up on film where maybe when

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Speaker 1: the bright's come on, he plays better. Maybe you know,

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Speaker 1: he knows where he's on the depth chart. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I just say, you got I don't know how you

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Speaker 1: learn to play on special teams. I guess you gotta

701
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Speaker 1: know what your coverage is. And because they I thought

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Speaker 1: going in, if you know, if Chase wasn't the starter,

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Speaker 1: Chase was going to be the kickoff return guy. But

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, can get on the field like that,

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Speaker 1: but you just can't dress the guy that's going to

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Speaker 1: do that. Only so he's got his work cut out.

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Speaker 1: But I hope he finds his niche because I don't,

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Speaker 1: like I said, I don't see one thing that sticks out.

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Speaker 1: But I know he's putting the work in. And now

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Speaker 1: it's a matter of you know, just playing on teams

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Speaker 1: and covering kicks, and that's something he's going to have

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Speaker 1: to do to stick around the league. And I failed

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Speaker 1: to mention that the one thing he did do at

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Speaker 1: asu special teams wise, is he did return kickoffs. And

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Speaker 1: I don't know if that was something that the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: experimented with, looked at, didn't quite look like it was

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Speaker 1: going to work. Or to your point, you've got Chase Epmands,

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Speaker 1: you got Christian Kirk, and we prefer those over a

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Speaker 1: eto Benjamin. Maybe that's maybe Benjamin's role this season. Maybe

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Speaker 1: he does get an opportunity to return kicks. I do

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Speaker 1: think Rondel Moore is pretty pretty pretty confident that he's

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Speaker 1: going to be your punt returner. But now who returns kicks?

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Speaker 1: But that would have to be away for you know,

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Speaker 1: benjam to raise his hand and say, look at me.

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Speaker 1: I can help on Sundays. In addition to just to

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Speaker 1: be in a running back, I can be a part

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Speaker 1: of special teams Because again I'm sounding I keep repeating myself,

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Speaker 1: but if you're one, if you're on the back half

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Speaker 1: of that roster, you're the third and fourth running back,

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Speaker 1: you're the sixth or seventh wide receiver, you're the third

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Speaker 1: tight end, you're you're the ninth tenth offensive lineman. You

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Speaker 1: you're not going to be in uniform on Sunday that

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Speaker 1: It's it's just impossible. Teams can't operate that way. I'll

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Speaker 1: say this, I mean, just if I look at Jonathan Warred,

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Speaker 1: I look, you know, Benjamin, I think Ward has more upside.

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Speaker 1: I like his skill set. But again, we get to

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Speaker 1: that third preseason game against the Saints, right, you know,

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Speaker 1: Benjamin Eno, Benjamin, Right, He's going to get every opportunity

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Speaker 1: to show what he's worth. And you're also being scott

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Speaker 1: up by thirty one other clubs because now that you

741
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: know the preseason, they get the All twenty two film. Again,

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Speaker 1: I don't want to get ahead of myself, but he's

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Speaker 1: going to have to show something in training camp and

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, and he's going to get plenty of opportunities.

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Speaker 1: I don't think we're going to see a lot of

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Speaker 1: Chase Emmons and James Connor. They have to find out

747
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Speaker 1: what they have at the back end the rosters. So

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Speaker 1: I think he'll be up for the task and we'll

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Speaker 1: just judge him what he does on the field. To

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Speaker 1: that point, James Saxon on the Big Red Rage about

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Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin quote he's got great ability. It's going to

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Speaker 1: be time for him. He's just going to have to

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Speaker 1: take advantage of whatever opportunity he gets. Maybe it's one

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Speaker 1: play here, maybe it's ten. He's going to have to

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Speaker 1: be prepared to be available number one and number two,

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Speaker 1: to be able to execute properly the thing we're asking

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Speaker 1: him to do. End quote. So they are working with

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Speaker 1: Eno Benjamin. He's not like he's being ignored. But I

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Speaker 1: do understand some of the fan angst that follow Arizona State.

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00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 1: It's the local college town or the local college team,

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Speaker 1: and you've got the pro team just literally down the road.

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Speaker 1: That you want to see those guys be successful. You know,

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Speaker 1: the guys that grew up here, whether it was high

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Speaker 1: school or college and now all of a sudden being

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Speaker 1: on the Arizona Cardinals. Now we saw that with DJ Foster.

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Speaker 1: He is not on the Arizona Cardinals, but that is

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Speaker 1: a name that perhaps could be someone that is brought

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Speaker 1: back if to your point, they don't like what they

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Speaker 1: see out of you know, four or five and six

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Speaker 1: as far as the depth chart is concerned at running

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Speaker 1: back and what's the first thing you think of a Foster?

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Speaker 1: Special teams and in a pinch he has run the

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Speaker 1: football and caught the football out of the back. But

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Speaker 1: that's the difference between him and you know, Benjamin. Based

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Speaker 1: on Saxon's comments there, this is a complex defense. I

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Speaker 1: don't care if he's out there with Colt McCoy or

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Speaker 1: Chris Traveler. If you don't pick up the blitz, they

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Speaker 1: don't have a a lot of roughs for you. So

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Speaker 1: it's a complex offense. And a lot of times you

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Speaker 1: can just chip the guy, just hold him off a

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Speaker 1: second or two so he doesn't hit the quarterback. But

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Speaker 1: that's the little things that we don't talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he can run the ball, he can run between the tackles,

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Speaker 1: he can catch the ball, he can return, but when

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Speaker 1: you're on the field, you don't want to be the

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Speaker 1: weakest link. And I'm not saying he is. I'm saying

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Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of assignments that go then just

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Speaker 1: hand the ball off him and you run through the tackles.

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Speaker 1: Last point here with respect to the running back position

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Speaker 1: on the Cardinals side of things, and we touched on

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Speaker 1: it the start of this conversation here on Cardinals Cover

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Speaker 1: This team will run the football and they run the

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Speaker 1: football very very well. You brought Sean Coogler, run game coordinator.

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Speaker 1: That speaks volumes on what Kingsbury feels and what this

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Speaker 1: organization feels about the rushing attack. And you just look

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Speaker 1: at the numbers. This is a top ten rushing offense.

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Speaker 1: It just has to be consistent, more consistent. It can't

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Speaker 1: have the ebbs and flows and that was basically the

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Speaker 1: entire team last year. But finishing strong and to your

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Speaker 1: point about getting leads, we will see upwards of twenty

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Speaker 1: five thirty thirty five carries for the team each week.

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Speaker 1: If this team in the second half can play with

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Speaker 1: the lead, whether that's seven points, ten points, thirteen points,

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Speaker 1: because then you can utilize what offensive lineman like to do,

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Speaker 1: and that's run block, and then you've got Chase Edmonds,

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Speaker 1: James Conner, and don't forget about Kyle Murray in the

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Speaker 1: backfield with his legs. As far as helping milk the clock. Well,

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Speaker 1: we know what the theme was going in the Aussee

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Speaker 1: get physical and bring in leadership, and that's Rodney Hudson

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Speaker 1: and that's Brian Winters, possibly being a physical player. We'll

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Speaker 1: see about Justin Murray and some of the other guys,

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Speaker 1: Josh Jones. I'm intrigued to see where he lines up,

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Speaker 1: who's the swing tackle. But there's going to be a

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Speaker 1: premium on running the football. Yes, it's happening to the

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Speaker 1: last couple of years. I think we're gonna see more

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Speaker 1: of it, and that should open up play action where

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Speaker 1: Kyler Murray has the weapons that he needs at his disposal.

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Speaker 1: Whether it's in the running game. We'll see about the

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Speaker 1: tight ends, but when it comes to the top four

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Speaker 1: or five receivers, he feels really good about going into season.

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Speaker 1: When the quarterbacks happy, I think the teammates will be happy.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to see how much this team

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Speaker 1: i x I brought up Maurice Jones drew and his

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Speaker 1: ranking of running backs across the league, and I found

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Speaker 1: this interest and to kind of put a bow on

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Speaker 1: this subject of running backs. His top five top five

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Speaker 1: running backs in the National Football League, Derrick Henry Christian McCaffrey,

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Speaker 1: Alvin Kamara, Dalvin Cook, Nick Chubb. All five of those.

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Speaker 1: Do you know what they all have in common? They're

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Speaker 1: on the Cardinals schedule. They are if you include Kamara

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Speaker 1: and the Saints in the preseason, but yes, in the

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Speaker 1: regular season, Derrick Henry, Christian McCaffrey, Alvin Cook, Nick Chubb.

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Speaker 1: So yes, a major storyline fast forward foreshadowing here. When

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Speaker 1: we talk with Advance Joseph ahead of those games, he

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Speaker 1: always says, it starts with stopping the run. Well, you've

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Speaker 1: got five backs. I'll include Kamara on the preseason because

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Speaker 1: you know this is the third preseason games, so maybe

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Speaker 1: we do see a lot of Alvin Kamara on the

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Speaker 1: football field. Maybe not, but yeah, it's how this team,

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Speaker 1: how this defense handles top flight running backs in twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty one. Well, if we connect the dots, this rush

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Speaker 1: defense should be a lot better. They're getting pushed back

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Speaker 1: last year in addition to j. J. Watt and then

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Speaker 1: healthy Jordan Phillips, and you look at some of the

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Speaker 1: rotation guys and then hopefully these linebackers can you know,

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Speaker 1: if the d line's doing their job, they should be

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Speaker 1: able to get tackle for losses. So I think that's

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Speaker 1: going to be an improvement there. Hey Week one, Henry

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Speaker 1: Week two, Dalvin Cook, it's not gonna get easy, and

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Speaker 1: that you have to stop the run. And then you

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Speaker 1: got to put Ryan Tannehill and Kirk Cousins you know,

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Speaker 1: in third and long. But stopping the runs the most

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Speaker 1: important thing. Running the football and stopping the run. You'll

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Speaker 1: win a lot of games in the NFL like that.

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Speaker 1: I know it's a passing league, but it's all predicated

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Speaker 1: on the protection and winning in the trenches. Cardinals last

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Speaker 1: season finished in the bottom third defensively as far as

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Speaker 1: stopping the run yards per game one hundred and twenty

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Speaker 1: five point five. Now, they did allow the fourth few

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Speaker 1: US rushing touchdowns at thirteen, so some of these numbers

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Speaker 1: can be misleading. You know, as long as you're not

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Speaker 1: allowing a team like the forty nine ers in Week

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Speaker 1: sixteen run all over you up and down the football field.

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Speaker 1: That an award was embarrassing. That can't happen, especially late

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Speaker 1: in the season. So yeah, stopping the run, you know,

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Speaker 1: as long as it's not four and a half five

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Speaker 1: yards of carey, I'm okay with three and a half

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Speaker 1: to four it's just when you can run the football

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Speaker 1: back to back plays and all of a sudden it's

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Speaker 1: a first down. Now, you got to make it more

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Speaker 1: difficult than that. Yeah, my biggest concern, you know, the

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Speaker 1: first couple of weeks is is the fact that you know,

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Speaker 1: getting a healthy Chandler Jones back, and you know, the

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Speaker 1: addition of Watt and some of the other guys is

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Speaker 1: that you know, you want to make these teams one dimensional.

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Speaker 1: But one thing we're gonna have to pay attention to

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Speaker 1: is because of the uncertainty with the corners they haven't

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Speaker 1: played together, is given up big plays. You cannot give

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Speaker 1: up chunk plays. Got to keep everything in front of you.

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Speaker 1: And that's important for the safeties and the corners. And listen, Craig,

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Speaker 1: if the Cardinals go with their base defense, I gotta

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Speaker 1: think Byron Murphy is going to be out there with

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Butler. That doesn't mean Robert Olford won't be involved

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Speaker 1: in their their nickel package. But I mean, if if

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Speaker 1: team's gonna line up with two tight ends and a

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Speaker 1: running back like Derrick Henry, you're only gonna have two

891
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Speaker 1: corners out there. But you know we'll get into this

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Speaker 1: as this. You know, the season starts to unfold and

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Speaker 1: everything else. But this defense has to eliminate big plays

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00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,360
Speaker 1: because game changing plays will kind of you all of

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Speaker 1: a sudden. Your confidence walking into the sidelines isn't the

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Speaker 1: same when you're stopping the run. I think it's very important,

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Speaker 1: and I think it was good that the schedule opens

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Speaker 1: the way it does with the Titans and Vikings, considering

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Speaker 1: the running backs that the Cardinals will face, and you're

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Speaker 1: throwing Julio Jones with the Titans, and that opens up

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Speaker 1: a whole nother door for that defense to pay attention to.

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Speaker 1: But if you're looking for motivation and training camp to

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Speaker 1: get to the regular season, you just loop Dalvin Cook film.

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Speaker 1: You just loop Derek Henry film in the locker room,

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Speaker 1: and you just keep repeating it and repeating it. It's

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Speaker 1: not so they're not going to be surprised by it.

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Speaker 1: But and it's easier said than done. I get that.

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Speaker 1: But those two in particular, arguably the two best running

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Speaker 1: backs across the league according to most people, Well, you

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Speaker 1: start looking at it, I mean, it's really about their

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Speaker 1: offensive lines. I mean, that's that's what I mean. I

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Speaker 1: can stay here today. The Cleveland Browns had the best

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Speaker 1: offensive line in football, and they got a one two

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Speaker 1: punch Kareem Hunt and Nick Chubb. Nick Chubb's probably one

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Speaker 1: of the most underrated players in football. And then throwing

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Speaker 1: their weapons they have on the outside and the immerged

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Speaker 1: just a Baker Mayfield. So there's a reason why the

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Speaker 1: Browns have the best rushing game in football is because

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Speaker 1: they've committed to their offensive line and they got two

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Speaker 1: backs you talk about a one two punch, were more

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Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry and Cook and Kamara. They really don't

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Speaker 1: share carries, but they're so effective in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: Not so much Henry, but Kamara and Cook. But the

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Speaker 1: reason why the Browns are projected to possibly win that

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Speaker 1: division and make a run in the postseed is because

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Speaker 1: of our offensive line and they have two backs that

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Speaker 1: can take it off to the house. As Bertram Berry

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Speaker 1: always says, it starts sent ins at the line of

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Speaker 1: scrimmage and the trenches your offensive line and your defensive line,

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Speaker 1: and who controls the line of scrimmage nine times out

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Speaker 1: of ten going to control the game and win the game.

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Speaker 1: On that particular Sunday, On that note, let's put a

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Speaker 1: lid on this edition of Cardinals Cover two presented by Hunday,

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Speaker 1: proud partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always special thanks

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Speaker 1: to our executive producer, Jim momahund good conversation on the

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Speaker 1: running back position, not only for the Arizona Cardinals, but

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Speaker 1: the entire league. Wall as far as what the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: will face this season, would continue our position by position

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Speaker 1: analysis leading in to training camp for Mike Jarecki. I'm

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Speaker 1: craig Rio loop Well doctor. Next time here on Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Cover two