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Speaker 1: Well, if you're expecting a slow weekend over the Fourth

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Speaker 1: to cover it today. I'm certainly not Sean. I am

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Speaker 1: Peter Schweitzer, four time number one New York Times bestselling

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Speaker 1: author investigative journalists, and I'm covering today for Sean along

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Speaker 1: with my co host and podcast partner Eric Eggers. Eric,

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Speaker 1: how are you?

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Speaker 2: I'm excellent. And it's an honor to be talking to

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Speaker 2: Sean Handy's radio audience. You know, they played the best

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Speaker 2: of Sean Handy Show on Thursday and Friday for the

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Speaker 2: holiday weekend. And I like to imagine a world in

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Speaker 2: And if you're one of those people, you've missed a lot,

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Speaker 2: and we're here to help you understand just how much

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, we've got tragedy in Texas, this horrific story

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Speaker 1: cover that, and we're going to look at the heroics

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Speaker 1: was signed. This legislation, which passed the House by only

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Speaker 1: the FBIDOJ concluding there was no suicide, there was no

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Speaker 2: No, it's absolutely I mean, the Epstein news is massive

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Speaker 2: doesn't impact the audience's life, right like the weather or not.

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Speaker 2: There will be additional charges brought in the case of

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein. Won't fundamentally change your life. It won't fundamentally

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Speaker 2: change in my life, but it does represent a major

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Speaker 2: downbeat on what was I think a very positive era

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Speaker 2: for President Trump. Because a lot of people voted for

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Speaker 2: and right by Joe Biden and his media allies. And

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Speaker 2: you know Jake Tappers now lying to us about how

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Speaker 2: And so what we now know is that we were told, hey,

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Speaker 2: systematic review we've conducted revealed no incriminating client list, no

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Speaker 2: it leads a lot of people to conclude that the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right. We're gonna have a guest at

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Speaker 1: about the crisis there. But here's the thing that I

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Speaker 2: Jeffrey Epstein did fund a nonprofit, but the billion dollars

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Speaker 2: we were told is, you know, for years, we're told

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Speaker 1: It does. And also there's a pattern here. I mean,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I sort of hate this story because I tried

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Speaker 2: Slap him on the wrist. So then he gets out,

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Speaker 2: And then she was just involved in the Panitty case.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it does. I mean, we have a history here

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Speaker 1: They acknowledged that there were one thousand victims, one thousand

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Speaker 2: Does I mean you mentioned a powerful name, Bill Gates. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Do you feel like that there's a relationship between I mean,

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Speaker 2: People like him who have been let's call it Epstein adjacent, right,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we obviously do not know what Bill Gates's relationship

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Speaker 1: the fashion guy who also did deals with Epstein. The

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Speaker 6: The Coastguard launched us and decided to send a rescue

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Speaker 1: Lieutenant Commander Roth, Are there ongoing operations right now in

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Speaker 1: So where is a coast Guard in terms of future operations?

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Speaker 1: Planning for disasters we live in Florida, course, hurricanes or

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Speaker 1: always something you worry about. What is the Coast Guard doing?

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Speaker 1: Looking forward?

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Speaker 3: So looking forward, you know, we're going to continue to

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Speaker 3: be extremely proud of the fact that we are America's

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Speaker 3: first responders for hurricanes, maritime disasters, really any crisis. You know,

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Speaker 3: here we are in central Texas, not pretty pretty far

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Speaker 3: going to continue to give you know, people that enlist

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Speaker 3: case and they need to rescue one hundred and sixty

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Speaker 3: five people in Central Texas, that they're they're prepared to

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Speaker 3: do that. Scott will say, you know, I think he

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Speaker 3: just said, I'm just the dude that was trained to

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Speaker 3: do this, and I rose raise my right hand. Looking forward,

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Speaker 3: we're certainly excited about the support and the recognition we've

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Speaker 3: gotten from the Administration, the Secretary Congress. We're going to

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Speaker 3: be doing a lot of recapitalization to making sure that

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Speaker 3: we maintain our agility, our capability, and to be you know,

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Speaker 3: our motto was literally always ready to be, always ready

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Speaker 3: are extremely capable, as I think we've proven in this case,

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Speaker 3: the ability to fly in these conditions. We've got these

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Speaker 3: highly trained rescue swimmers. We're gonna we're going to make

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Speaker 3: sure that we continue to be, you know, some of

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Speaker 3: can we can get down there and continue to do

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Speaker 3: this stuff.

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Speaker 2: So in an urban search and rescue environment, which is

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Speaker 2: what Scott Ruskin was involved in, he's going, I guess

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Speaker 2: kind of take us through. So he gets onto the

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Speaker 2: ground and you knew where the camp was. I heard

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Speaker 2: him say that they identified Camp Mystic. So everyone that

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Speaker 2: he encountered were they can you tell us like what

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Speaker 2: they in their normal rooms? Had they congregated in an area?

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Speaker 2: And I guess, like walk us through what that process

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Speaker 2: is like and how quickly this person had to make

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Speaker 3: You've got to make these decisions instantly. I don't have

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Speaker 3: the details on exactly where and can't mystic. They dropped

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Speaker 3: him off. But in a couple of interviews he's mentioned,

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Speaker 3: you know, all of a sudden, he's got two hundred cold, scared,

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Speaker 3: exhausted children. This is a group of predominantly little children.

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Speaker 3: I'm the father of a six year old girl, and

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Speaker 3: it's like unfathomable to meet with my daughter in the situation.

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Speaker 3: So just to just to manage that chaos in that situation,

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Speaker 3: and then not even that, but then to start medically

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Speaker 3: triaging these people to very very quickly get them to

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Speaker 3: a waiting helicopter so that they can get to a

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Speaker 3: higher level of care. But that's that's one thing that

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Speaker 3: our rescue swimmers and really every member of the Coast

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Speaker 3: Guard is trained to do. We encounter all kinds of

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Speaker 3: non traditional situations and you've got to be calm and

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Speaker 3: cool and confident and ready to make those those life

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Speaker 3: or death decisions. And that's what's really I think unique

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Speaker 1: Well, the Channe Commander, Steve Roth, we thank you for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We appreciate all the good work you were

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Speaker 1: doing in the Coast Guard is doing as well. People

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Speaker 1: when they think of people in service, they sometimes forget

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Speaker 1: about the Coast Guards or don't pay them the attention

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Speaker 1: that they should. They certainly will. Now we thank you

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Speaker 1: and appreciate all that the Coast Guard is doing down

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Speaker 1: in Texas for us in rescuing people, especially these young children.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, thanks so much for the opportunity to come on

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Speaker 3: the show. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: That's Lieutenant Commander Steve Roth of the United States Coast Guard.

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Speaker 2: It's a great it's a crazy story. It's a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: And you know, you and I are both fathers. We

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Speaker 2: are fathers of daughters. And it's the fact that I

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Speaker 2: think it's twenty plus children have died, unfortunately, and this

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Speaker 2: tragedy is horrific, and obviously the death toll continues to mount,

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Speaker 2: and there's been unfortunately, as you heard from Larry Summers

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Speaker 2: out with stories about oh, they've ignored these warning symbols

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Speaker 2: and they could have done more, but buried in that

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Speaker 2: article they talked about the fact that text messages were sent.

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Speaker 2: But as you noted, it was three in the morning

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Speaker 2: when the conditions worsened, and they say text messages were ignored, Well,

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Speaker 2: I mean, how many other alarm systems. Do you want

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Speaker 2: sometimes strgies happen?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean the thing to me that was

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Speaker 1: particularly outrageous by the New York Times story is they

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Speaker 1: alleged that cutbacks by the Trump administration, or the fact

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Speaker 1: that there are certain positions that have been filled with

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Speaker 1: the National Weather Service somehow led to an increased death

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Speaker 1: when the realities are what we said, in forty five minutes,

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Speaker 1: this river rose twenty six feet. It was in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the night. I don't know about you. I

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Speaker 1: mean I basically had my ringer off at night. If

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Speaker 1: I had been there, I would have been totally caught

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Speaker 1: off guards. I don't know how you can create a

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Speaker 1: warning system and there will be opportunities for them to

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Speaker 1: evaluate come up with greater efficiencies. I think one of

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Speaker 1: the things that the Trump administration has proposed is more

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Speaker 1: local control because remember what happened in North Carolina when

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Speaker 1: the hurricane came through the disaster there was the fact

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Speaker 1: that it took so long once the tragedy had happened

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Speaker 1: to actually get support to help the people that were impacted.

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Speaker 1: In North Carolina. I think we had what one hundred

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Speaker 1: and twenty died as a result of that. In this

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Speaker 1: particular case, you had the heroic response from the Coast Guard,

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Speaker 1: But I'm not sure you can develop a system unless

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Speaker 1: people are prepared to be wired in twenty four hours

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Speaker 1: a day. You can develop a weather system for a

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Speaker 1: scenario that happens like this in the middle of the

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Speaker 1: night over a course of forty five minutes.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 2: In fact, you and I were speaking with someone who

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Speaker 2: lives in western North Carolina not long ago, and he

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Speaker 2: was recounting what it was like last year when that happened.

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Speaker 2: And I think what you heard him say is we

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Speaker 2: went weeks without hearing from anyone. And in the western

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Speaker 2: North Carolina mountains, it's a very tight knit community. These

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Speaker 2: people very self reliant, as they are in Texas. Yes,

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Speaker 2: but the point is is that there is an appropriate

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Speaker 2: role for the government to play in search and rescue operations,

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Speaker 2: which obviously the Coastguard did very well here as well

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Speaker 2: as the conditions would warrant. And then there is the

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Speaker 2: ongoing support and that is where the ball was dropped

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Speaker 2: under the Biden administration's FEMA. And she did a podcast

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Speaker 2: on our Drill Down podcast about how they sort of

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Speaker 2: shifted their gaze and started focusing on lots of other

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Speaker 2: priorities and less about disaster responses. Has happened quite often,

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Speaker 2: unfortunately under the Biden administration with a number of agencies.

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Speaker 2: But it is a true story of heroism with Petty

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Speaker 2: Officer Scott Ruskin. I appreciate I know you do too.

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Speaker 2: The fact that he's being celebrated and the fact and

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Speaker 2: the fact that Coast Guard enrollments is up actually speaks

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Speaker 2: to a larger positive uptick in terms of what's happening

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Speaker 2: with our national defense systems under the Trump administration.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that's right. You're seeing recruitment goals being

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Speaker 1: met and exceeded in multiple branches. And I think the

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Speaker 1: fact is somebody that goes into the Coastguard wants to

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Speaker 1: help people. They want to be involved in real work.

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Speaker 1: They don't want to be involved in some of the

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Speaker 1: phony work and the DEI stuff that is so dominating things.

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Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of the reforms they're

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Speaker 1: talking about in terms of search and rescue are good.

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Speaker 1: Local officials know the situation better than anybody, and to

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Speaker 1: have the FEDS kind of show up and kind of

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Speaker 1: throw their weight around when they don't have local knowledge

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Speaker 1: kind of Remember what happened to Katrina. Remember back in

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Speaker 1: two thousand and five, you have the same issue. You

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Speaker 1: have the same issue under Joe Biden. So I think

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Speaker 1: Trump is saying, let's return this to local control. The

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Speaker 1: federal government can give them the resources, we can give

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Speaker 1: them the helicopters, we can give them the supplies, we

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Speaker 1: can give them the equipment. But local authorities should be

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Speaker 1: in charge, and that is certainly what should be done.

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Speaker 1: I think going.

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Speaker 2: Forward absolutely well. You heard from an update in terms

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Speaker 2: of what the Coast Guard's perspective is. Will continue to

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Speaker 2: monitor this story. Unfortunately, that's not the only tragedy that's

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Speaker 2: happening in the country right now. We have breaking news

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Speaker 2: about another tragedy situation. We'll give you more information on

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Speaker 2: that right on the other side of this break. He's

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Speaker 2: Peter Schweizer. I'm Eric Egers. This is the Sean Handy

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Speaker 2: Radio Show. We'll have more information from you coming up next.

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Speaker 1: Hi, it's Peter Schweizer. He is Eric Eggers. We have

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Speaker 1: the Drill Down p podcast. We would appreciate you subscribing

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Speaker 1: Show one eight hundred and nine four one Shawn one

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Speaker 1: the Coast Guard down in Texas. It's not the only

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Speaker 1: herowzone that's taking place, although the threat is different. It's

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Speaker 1: whether in Texas you have a situation now where there

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Speaker 1: have been multiple ICE shootings shootings at ICE officials report

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Speaker 1: this morning an active shooter armed with tactical gear and

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Speaker 1: one federal agent was hit. They did kill the shooter.

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Speaker 1: It's an ongoing investigation by the FBI. This comes on

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Speaker 1: Police officer was shot Friday near the US Immigration and

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Speaker 1: being targeted by activists on the left.

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Speaker 2: It also comes on the heels, unfortunately, of an Axio

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Speaker 2: store headlining Democrats told to quote get shot for the

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Speaker 2: Prepare for violence. That's again from Axios Today. This is

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Speaker 2: a Sean Handy radio show. He's Peter Schweizer. I'm Marik Eggers.

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