WEBVTT - How CPR Works

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff you should know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck Bryant, and you put the two of us together.

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<v Speaker 1>It doesn't matter what, You're still gonna come up with

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<v Speaker 1>stuff you should know. That's right. You're better or for worse.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right, man, you're stuck with me. How are you, sir? Tickled?

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<v Speaker 1>How are you? I'm great? I'm ready to to save

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<v Speaker 1>some lives with it's your podcast today. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>entirely possible that we could you never know, like we

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<v Speaker 1>could tell somebody how to do the basics of CPR

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<v Speaker 1>and we should see O A, I see you even

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<v Speaker 1>have it written down, Like if you are interested in

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<v Speaker 1>being a above average human being by taking the time

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<v Speaker 1>to be taught how to UM save someone's life using

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<v Speaker 1>car your pulmonary resuscitation, you should do that, totally should

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<v Speaker 1>genuinely you are a better person for that. UM. You

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<v Speaker 1>can go to heart dot org, the American Heart Association's website,

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<v Speaker 1>type in your zip code and it will bring up

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<v Speaker 1>tons of free classes that you can go to at

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<v Speaker 1>your convenience and become certified in CPR. Yeah you should

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<v Speaker 1>do that because not only could you maybe be a

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<v Speaker 1>hero and save some stranger's life, but if you care

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<v Speaker 1>about the people around you, wouldn't you love to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to save their life exactly at a moment's notice. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's almost to me, it's like giving blood. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's almost a human requirement in this day and age.

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<v Speaker 1>You give blood. Of course I do. I keep mind blood,

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<v Speaker 1>give me gives blood. She's always like, don't you want

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<v Speaker 1>to too? Yeah, you should get blood? I know I should. Yeah. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't even know what my blood type is. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty good reason to give blood just to find out. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>can you test that too? Yeah? How am I doing?

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<v Speaker 1>Might do? And where's the nutter butters? Yeah that's a

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<v Speaker 1>that's a bonus too. I always feel guilty when you

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<v Speaker 1>me shares their nutter butters with you, Like I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>earn these? These are yours? What did she bring him home?

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<v Speaker 1>Or do you like go and drop her off and

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<v Speaker 1>then just sit with your arm scrossed while she gives blood?

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<v Speaker 1>Be all right ready? Yeah, man, let's let's CPR. Oh so,

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<v Speaker 1>we're still in the middle of the c o A

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<v Speaker 1>UM like this is no way intended to replace one

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<v Speaker 1>of those classes. Like you listen to this podcast. You're

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<v Speaker 1>not certified, pal, you're possibly a bigger danger than you

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<v Speaker 1>know before. You're certifiable, but you're not certified. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is intended to, I guess maybe just kind of go

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<v Speaker 1>over the absolute basics of CPR UM and hopefully pique

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<v Speaker 1>you're interested enough to get you to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>take a real class. That's what we're doing here today. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I took when I life Lifeguarded. Obviously took CPR then,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's been that's been a while. Yeah, it was

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years old, you know. So why are you

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<v Speaker 1>always walking around and nothing but a bathing suit? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know, man, Yeah, I thought you still What are

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<v Speaker 1>you doing then? I don't know. I just like to

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<v Speaker 1>keep it the skin Mountain Malibu style, Malibu style. UM

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<v Speaker 1>Skin to win is my friend says, are you ready? Yeah? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So are you familiar with the heart? I am okay. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>then this won't come as any surprise. The heart has

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<v Speaker 1>a little part of it that's called the pacemaking area,

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<v Speaker 1>the sinoatrial node the essay node, and the essay node

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<v Speaker 1>produces a burst of electricity that stimulates the muscles in

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<v Speaker 1>the heart that calls it to pump, usually about on

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<v Speaker 1>the low side, once a second. That would mean that

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<v Speaker 1>you have a heartbeat of about sixty beats per minute,

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<v Speaker 1>which is low on the that's good for resting. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're active, it's a little low. But you have

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<v Speaker 1>this this thing, this essay no, that that produces electricity,

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<v Speaker 1>and it produces it in a reliable rhythm. But certain conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>say like dehydration, uh, stress, all sorts of things can

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<v Speaker 1>cause your essay no to go a little haywire and

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<v Speaker 1>all of a sudden, it's shooting out bursts of electricity

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<v Speaker 1>in a really weird pattern, no pattern at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>when that happens, usually your heart, the pump weakens, the

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<v Speaker 1>pump mechanism weakens, so it's going to do and it's

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<v Speaker 1>not really beating at all. I mean it's beating, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not really pumping any blood. What you're in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of is called sudden cardiac arrest. Yes, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is uh different, this article points out than a heart attack. Right, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have a heart attack, that is something that

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<v Speaker 1>happens very slowly over time. Uh, and then you will

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<v Speaker 1>eventually have the heart attack. That's sort of the end

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<v Speaker 1>result of that slow build. And usually it's your heart's

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<v Speaker 1>not pumping blood because it's backed up. Yeah, with the

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<v Speaker 1>sudden cardiac arrest, your heart is going haywire. It's trying

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<v Speaker 1>to pump blood, but it doesn't have the strength to

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<v Speaker 1>anymore because the electrical current is being distributed incorrectly. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you familiar with defibrillators. I am. You know they have

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<v Speaker 1>one here in the office in a d well. They

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<v Speaker 1>save lives. Um, if you hit somebody with an a

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<v Speaker 1>d with a defibrillator, which is another thing you need

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<v Speaker 1>to be trained on before you really try using it.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear that's all I can do. And you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be clear to you don't want to be touching the

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<v Speaker 1>body when it goes off. But you put one paddle

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<v Speaker 1>over the heart and one paddle over the other side,

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<v Speaker 1>so the middle of the chest, and then on the

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<v Speaker 1>left side of the person, and you, you know, shoot

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<v Speaker 1>the charge through and what you're doing is not starting

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<v Speaker 1>the heart, You're actually turning the heart off. Yeah. I

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<v Speaker 1>think everybody that doesn't know about the defibrillators know it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have trouble that. It's a tough word. I think

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<v Speaker 1>most people think that, Yeah, your heart stopped and it

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<v Speaker 1>kicks it back, kick starts it back up, right. Not true. No,

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<v Speaker 1>it turns it off in the hopes that it will

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<v Speaker 1>start back up at a norm normal rhythm. Yeah, like

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<v Speaker 1>it resets the pace right, and it frequently works. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>but that's just so surprising to mean, it's such a gamble.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, well, the heart's not doing very well right now,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's gonna shut it off and see what happened. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that is weird. Um. Sadly, if you have a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>cardiac arrest, you have about a five percent chance of

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<v Speaker 1>surviving because it is out of the blue. It can

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<v Speaker 1>occur to a very healthy person. Um. It can occur

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<v Speaker 1>with young people, old people, any kind of person. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not just like heart disease. It's not. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>part of heart disease frequently. But like like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>it can result from dehydration when your electrolytes are off. Yeah. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>The good news if if you have a heart attack

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<v Speaker 1>or a myocardial infarction, um, is that you have pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good chance of surviving. That actually, and you know, turning

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<v Speaker 1>your life around with diet and maybe get some stints

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<v Speaker 1>thrown in there and teaching English to prisoners. Maybe so. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>But all of this is leading up to the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that CPR is something that you can increase somebody's chances

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<v Speaker 1>who has sudden cardiac arrest. Right, here's the whole point

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<v Speaker 1>of CPR, the moment somebody drops dead in front of

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<v Speaker 1>you or you come across somebody who's dying or dead

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<v Speaker 1>or unconscious. I guess it is a better way to

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<v Speaker 1>put it, Like time is of the essence. Their blood

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<v Speaker 1>is no longer pumping through their body, their brain is

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<v Speaker 1>becoming starved. There they they're at risk of becoming brain damage.

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<v Speaker 1>And usually you hear it's there's like a five minute

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<v Speaker 1>window where like you really have the opportunity to save

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<v Speaker 1>someone's life. Right, So, whether it's running, if somebody's running

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<v Speaker 1>and get the defibrillator, or waiting for nine one one

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<v Speaker 1>to arrive, waiting for the paramedics to arrive, the whole

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<v Speaker 1>point of CPR is to pump blood through the body

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<v Speaker 1>to keep this person in this basic, minimal, artificial state

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<v Speaker 1>of life so that real medical help can be administered. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're just trying to dave off uh death basically for

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<v Speaker 1>as long as you can until you can get some help.

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<v Speaker 1>And and this is nothing new, right, No, it's not. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>there's a little bit of history I dug up. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>the prophet Elisha in the Bible is described as performing

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<v Speaker 1>mouth to mouth on a child. Who knows what that meant? Uh?

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<v Speaker 1>In seventeen forty, the Paris Academy of Science is like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's the Bible. It said he placed his

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<v Speaker 1>mouth upon the child's mouth and stuff like that. But

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<v Speaker 1>who knows if it was you know, did they describe

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<v Speaker 1>what was wrong with the child or you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I'm sure child was not doing well. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>In the seventeen forty the Paris Academy of Sciences first

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<v Speaker 1>recommended mouth to mouth for drowning victims. Yeah, because apparently

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<v Speaker 1>up to that point, I was like, Oh, you're drowned,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's it for you. We're not even gonna try anything.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll hit you with some sticks. Eight ninety one,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Frederick Moss performed the first documented chess compressions to

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<v Speaker 1>human and sadly it was nineteen wenty three years later.

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<v Speaker 1>Four years later that Dr George Cryle first reported a

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<v Speaker 1>successful resuscitation from chess compression. Well, yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a it was a working progress. It was very much

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<v Speaker 1>was because and it wasn't until even though mouth to

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<v Speaker 1>mouth was a thing that Peter H. Saffar and James

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<v Speaker 1>Elam are credited with inventing it as modern CPR in

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<v Speaker 1>the fifties and sixties is where they really uh perfected it.

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<v Speaker 1>Like nineteen sixties when CPR was officially like named and developed, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and then shortly after that came RASA ay, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>the little kid with the jumpsuit, that's right. Um, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>so that's just a little background, right, So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>been around for a little while, but the points always

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<v Speaker 1>been the same. It's like somebody's in an emergency situation

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<v Speaker 1>and you need to basically stave off death. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, let's say that you come into the podcast

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<v Speaker 1>recording booth and uh, you see me just laying on

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<v Speaker 1>the floor. What what are you gonna do? Well? I

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<v Speaker 1>would scream and cry out and in agony and shock. Firstly,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll be very upset, and then the first thing I

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<v Speaker 1>would do would say would be to say, Jerry, for

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<v Speaker 1>God's sakes, put down the beer and call Mine one

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<v Speaker 1>one immediately. See, I would I would suspect that Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>would have known I was in here unconscious. That's why

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<v Speaker 1>she's drinking the beer. She's just she's celebrating. She got

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<v Speaker 1>it from my desk. Yeah, uh so, yeah. First first

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<v Speaker 1>thing you want to do is is call mine one

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<v Speaker 1>one and get some experienced, some experience help there from

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<v Speaker 1>a Well that's that's after you've poked me in the

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<v Speaker 1>face and said Josh, Josh and looked at my chest

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<v Speaker 1>seeing that it's not rising or falling, and noted that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm little more blue than usual. Yeah, I would yell

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<v Speaker 1>the call, and I went to one first. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're supposed to check the person. If it's a child

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<v Speaker 1>or a baby. They say, never ever shake them, just

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<v Speaker 1>stroke them and see if they respond. Baby. Yeah, do

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<v Speaker 1>something like that. See if you get a response, and

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<v Speaker 1>if it is clear that this person is not breathing

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<v Speaker 1>and they're don't look like their heart is beating. Another

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<v Speaker 1>big one is that chest rising and following make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you could come across somebody and they're just dead drunk,

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<v Speaker 1>that's different from dead. Yeah, that's true. And I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>that took not from you, but not in the podcast. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a couple of different types of or there's

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<v Speaker 1>different types of CPR. UM, and depending on how trained

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<v Speaker 1>you are, is one you would which one you would undertake? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>So you've just you've determined I'm unconscious. Yeah, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what's wrong with me, but I'm blue. Um. Jerry

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<v Speaker 1>as off dialing nine on one, finishing her beer. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And you are Let's say that you have never done

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<v Speaker 1>anything but heard of CPR. What kind of CPR should

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<v Speaker 1>you employ? That means and this is from the Mayo Clinic.

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<v Speaker 1>They know a thing or two about this. That would

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<v Speaker 1>be what's known as an untrained person. And I would

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<v Speaker 1>only perform the hands only resuscitation, which will will describe

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<v Speaker 1>in detail. That's right. Um. And then let's say that

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<v Speaker 1>you've had some training before, but it's been a while.

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<v Speaker 1>Well that's me. I'm trained, but rusty. Um. And they say,

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<v Speaker 1>still just use the hands only. Don't get cocky, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>don't don't think you remember all that lifeguarding stuff. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you had just gotten out of a CPR class

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<v Speaker 1>and this happened. You would be trained but confident. That

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<v Speaker 1>is right, and that means that you can perform full

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<v Speaker 1>CPR with rescue breathing, and you know that's great. That

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<v Speaker 1>means you're confident and you're delivering of your knowledge. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then if you have access to an A E D.

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<v Speaker 1>Where is the one in this office? Well, I know

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<v Speaker 1>where it used to be until we redid the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>Used to be in the break right by the don't

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<v Speaker 1>massage your coworker poster. What's that called the you know

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<v Speaker 1>when you the warning basically like the drawings and all

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<v Speaker 1>that inappropriate touching. I always, I always was caught. My

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<v Speaker 1>my um attention was always gotten by the labor laws

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<v Speaker 1>poster for some reason. Yeah, yeah, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe yeah, Um, that's where it was. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>where it is now. It's probably in there in our

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<v Speaker 1>new smaller break around. Yeah, you're right. Um, So if

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<v Speaker 1>you have access to an A D you want to

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<v Speaker 1>actually deliver one shock and then start CPR. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>if you know absolutely in your train you know what

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<v Speaker 1>you're doing, but you don't want to waste time looking

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<v Speaker 1>for a pulse. They used to always say, check for

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<v Speaker 1>a pulse, don't bother no, because they found out that

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<v Speaker 1>people we're spending a lot more time than they should

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<v Speaker 1>trying to find a pulse and just basically wasting time.

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<v Speaker 1>I think basically, if you can look at somebody, see

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<v Speaker 1>their chess isn't moving, you don't need to look for

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<v Speaker 1>a pulse. Yeah. I mean, if I was on the ground,

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<v Speaker 1>the last thing I would want to hear is I'm

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<v Speaker 1>fading out. Is I can't quite tell us that of pulse?

0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:18.920
<v Speaker 1>All right, come here, what does that feel like? A pulse?

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<v Speaker 1>What do you call pulse? Thread? Yeah? And then you're

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<v Speaker 1>down there just going just please start compressions. So the

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<v Speaker 1>the American Heart Association said, you know what, let's just

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<v Speaker 1>go around this and really focus on the chests compressions.

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<v Speaker 1>Over time, they've they've in two thousand ten, they really

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<v Speaker 1>changed everything. And so just do chess compressions. Anything else

0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:43.680
<v Speaker 1>is like additional, but just do chess compressions. And um,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's let's talk about chess compressions. Well before we

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<v Speaker 1>do the chess compressions. If I came in here, luckily

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<v Speaker 1>we have a nice flat, uh first grade carpet type

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<v Speaker 1>of scene in here, um so I would not have

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<v Speaker 1>to move you. Um, but I do want to get

0:14:59.680 --> 0:15:02.720
<v Speaker 1>you on your back on a flat, hard surface. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're face down, then that's sad for you, and I

0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:10.880
<v Speaker 1>would gently roll you. Actually, i'd probably do it like quicker. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to really be careful to support the neck,

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<v Speaker 1>because if somebody already has a neck injury, you can

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<v Speaker 1>make it way worse if you just flop them around.

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<v Speaker 1>Or if they have a you know, a piece of

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<v Speaker 1>steak stuck in their throat, you know you don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to get it lodged further. So you want to support

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<v Speaker 1>the head and neck as you pull the person towards

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<v Speaker 1>you so that they're on their back. Now, that's right,

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<v Speaker 1>all right. And since two thousand and ten, it used

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<v Speaker 1>to be the A B C method airway breathing circulation.

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<v Speaker 1>They have now revised that to the CAB method. Yeah,

0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.360
<v Speaker 1>airway meant that you would stick your finger down the

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<v Speaker 1>person's throat to see if there was anything you could dislodge,

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<v Speaker 1>but they passed out from choking. Now it's just basically

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<v Speaker 1>chest compressions in the A b um come second, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and like like scraping out the airway and then breathing

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<v Speaker 1>rescue breathing. You don't even do those. If you don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what you're doing, it's all chest compression, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>But the new order once again, just remember thank cab,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta call a cab. Don't don't call a cabin.

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<v Speaker 1>Just waste time. They won't know what you're talking about.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So with chest compressions, we talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about it. What you want to do is you want

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<v Speaker 1>to kneel near the neck and shoulders. You've probably seen

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<v Speaker 1>this on TV. It's pretty accurate. Usually. Uh, put the

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<v Speaker 1>heel of your hands on top of one another in

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<v Speaker 1>the center of the chest, midway between the nipples. So

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<v Speaker 1>one palm down, the heel of your hand in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the chest, your other hand over it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>really forming this really solid piece of hand. That's right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to keep your elbow straight like they do

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<v Speaker 1>on TV, so you're not using all of your arms.

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<v Speaker 1>You're actually using your body weight to compress the chest. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I think how many inches one to two inches for

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<v Speaker 1>an adult? You want to compress it down one to

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<v Speaker 1>two inches, which that's gotta seem like a lot. What

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<v Speaker 1>if you're the person on the ground, No, if you

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, if you're making a compression like pushing somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>chest in two inches. That's significant, you know, and that's

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<v Speaker 1>why you gotta put all your body into it. Keep

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<v Speaker 1>those arms, elbows locked and uh nice and rigid. Oh

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<v Speaker 1>and if you're in Canada or the UK, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to compress someone's chest two point five four centimeters to

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<v Speaker 1>five point eight centimeters, that's what that's what we're saying.

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<v Speaker 1>When we're saying when the two inches it's in this

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<v Speaker 1>case it is much easier to learn inches, I think. So, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you want to make these chess compressions about a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>times a minute, which is not We have a what

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<v Speaker 1>a base sixty minute sixty second minute, so a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>seems weird to us. Right, how do you how do

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<v Speaker 1>you keep that rhythm in your head? It sounds unbelievable,

0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.200
<v Speaker 1>but you want to hum the song in your head

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<v Speaker 1>Staying Alive by the Beaches, right, It actually is a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and three beats per minute. So if you can

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<v Speaker 1>hit that song, stay at pump, you will pump, stay

0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:06.760
<v Speaker 1>in a love pump, pump pump, And don't like that,

0:18:07.000 --> 0:18:09.320
<v Speaker 1>don't hold that pump on the a lot. You want

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<v Speaker 1>to keep it going. You're gonna hit a hundred a

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and three chest compressions a minute. It's so awesome

0:18:16.000 --> 0:18:19.680
<v Speaker 1>that it's staying alive, I know. And they they chose

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<v Speaker 1>a great song because most people know that song, and

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<v Speaker 1>they say most people can remember the pace of that song.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's right, you know, kind of right at the

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<v Speaker 1>hundred to one or three beats per minute. So you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing pretty well there. And if you have a baby

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<v Speaker 1>on your hands, um, you want to do chest compressions

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<v Speaker 1>using the same techniques, but you only want to compress

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<v Speaker 1>the chest about um, one inch I believe one and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inches, and you're using your two your middle

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<v Speaker 1>finger in your index finger rather than you're the heels

0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.399
<v Speaker 1>of your hands. But you're still doing it in the

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<v Speaker 1>middle of the chest, in between the nipples. One and

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<v Speaker 1>a half inch compressions a hundred a minute, yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>just less aggressive, you know. And you want to support

0:19:01.600 --> 0:19:03.480
<v Speaker 1>the baby's head while you're doing it too. Basically you

0:19:03.520 --> 0:19:06.000
<v Speaker 1>want to lay them across like the length of your

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<v Speaker 1>forearm with their head in your hand. I cannot imagine

0:19:09.040 --> 0:19:12.760
<v Speaker 1>anything more horrifying than performing CPR on a baby, but

0:19:13.000 --> 0:19:17.359
<v Speaker 1>it's good to know for sure, um, what you're doing

0:19:17.400 --> 0:19:21.000
<v Speaker 1>here is you are basically squeezing the heart between the

0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:25.479
<v Speaker 1>breastbone and the backbone to artificially get blood out of

0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:29.080
<v Speaker 1>it moving through the body that oxygen eated blood and

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<v Speaker 1>uh like, are you literally trying to get the heart

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<v Speaker 1>going again or just deliver oxygen until someone gets there?

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<v Speaker 1>Is what gets the heart going. All you're doing is

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<v Speaker 1>distributing oxygenated blood through the body. Like when the heart pumps,

0:19:44.560 --> 0:19:47.560
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't make a whole circuit through your body. It

0:19:47.680 --> 0:19:50.040
<v Speaker 1>just pumps the blood a little bit, a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, and then eventually this little segment of

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<v Speaker 1>blood which with each pump will follow the course through

0:19:55.840 --> 0:20:00.280
<v Speaker 1>the body. So you are um oxygen eating you You're

0:20:00.320 --> 0:20:03.080
<v Speaker 1>pumping oxygenated blood through the body. And you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to hands only CPR dot org. It's a good website

0:20:06.560 --> 0:20:10.720
<v Speaker 1>to reinforce this. But again, American Red Cross is where

0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:13.840
<v Speaker 1>you want to go to get a regular class, get certified,

0:20:13.880 --> 0:20:17.120
<v Speaker 1>and they will teach you also rescue breathing too, because

0:20:17.680 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>you're I guess then oxygen eating the blur. You're allowing

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<v Speaker 1>the blood to be oxygen eated by introducing air into

0:20:26.480 --> 0:20:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the lungs. That is very true. So yeah, all you're

0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.600
<v Speaker 1>doing is just keeping like the body, like probably specifically

0:20:33.680 --> 0:20:41.320
<v Speaker 1>the brain fed with blood CPR, that's what you're doing. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>why wouldn't somebody want to do this? Uh? Well, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the first things I looked up was lawsuits because

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<v Speaker 1>I don't I never knew if it was true or not.

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<v Speaker 1>But you always hear about people like I'm not you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get sued. I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>perform CPR on that person. There's something called the Good

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:00.920
<v Speaker 1>Samaritan laws. Have you heard of these? The remember the

0:21:01.200 --> 0:21:06.240
<v Speaker 1>last episode of Seinfeld they all got law. Yeah, there's

0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:09.280
<v Speaker 1>various uh incarnations of Good Samaritan laws. But in the

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:13.280
<v Speaker 1>case of CPR, it protects people that perform CPR if

0:21:13.320 --> 0:21:20.320
<v Speaker 1>they are generally if they are UM medically trained. Oh

0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:23.840
<v Speaker 1>so like if you have a CPR certification, you'd be protected,

0:21:23.960 --> 0:21:27.159
<v Speaker 1>you would be protected and um, and it has to

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<v Speaker 1>be uh, it must be the persons just it must

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<v Speaker 1>be like if you try to save me, it's gotta

0:21:33.080 --> 0:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>be your idea, like, Hey, I'm just gonna go save

0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:37.040
<v Speaker 1>this guy. And someone didn't drag you over there and

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<v Speaker 1>say he's a doctor, and you can't actually be a doctor.

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<v Speaker 1>And be still be protected like in the hospital. Like

0:21:42.840 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't cover you know, hospitals and stuff obviously, because

0:21:45.480 --> 0:21:47.960
<v Speaker 1>that's their job. They're not SENI. Yeah, it's gotta be

0:21:48.080 --> 0:21:54.200
<v Speaker 1>entirely voluntary. And um, certain states is a state thing. Obviously,

0:21:54.440 --> 0:21:57.320
<v Speaker 1>certain states are now enacting laws that protect anyone. I

0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.480
<v Speaker 1>know Pennsylvania passed one last year that even if you're

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<v Speaker 1>not certified, if you give it the old college try,

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<v Speaker 1>then you can't be sued. That's good, which is which

0:22:05.760 --> 0:22:07.440
<v Speaker 1>is great. You know you want people diving in there.

0:22:07.520 --> 0:22:09.760
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Imagine like you saved my life. But I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't ask you too, so I'm suing you. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>also went to the freakonomics site because you know how

0:22:14.840 --> 0:22:17.800
<v Speaker 1>they always break things down in interesting ways like racially

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<v Speaker 1>in and as far as like income goes, and out

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<v Speaker 1>of fourteen thousand two cardiac arrest patients, by standard initiated

0:22:27.200 --> 0:22:32.440
<v Speaker 1>CPR was provided point six percent of the time, and uh,

0:22:32.520 --> 0:22:36.600
<v Speaker 1>that's it. Yeah, And in low income black neighborhoods, low

0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:41.960
<v Speaker 1>income white neighborhoods, and low income integrated neighborhoods, and high

0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:46.840
<v Speaker 1>income black neighborhoods, your odds of getting CPR perform were

0:22:46.880 --> 0:22:53.000
<v Speaker 1>way less um than high income white neighborhoods and high

0:22:53.080 --> 0:22:57.920
<v Speaker 1>income integrated neighborhoods. I don't know, but freeconomics is always

0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:00.439
<v Speaker 1>studying all that stuff and how it affects, you know,

0:23:00.880 --> 0:23:03.360
<v Speaker 1>the United States, like economically and racially, So I thought

0:23:03.359 --> 0:23:06.879
<v Speaker 1>that was kind of interesting. Um, you know, there's a

0:23:06.920 --> 0:23:09.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of people who also, for a long time worried

0:23:09.880 --> 0:23:14.320
<v Speaker 1>about catching a disease from mouth to mouth, Yeah, which

0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:17.760
<v Speaker 1>is another reason. Apparently the Heart Association said, let's just

0:23:17.800 --> 0:23:20.520
<v Speaker 1>do chest compressions only, like you're to catch anything. But

0:23:20.760 --> 0:23:24.600
<v Speaker 1>supposedly there's no documented case of anyone catching anything serious

0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>from giving mouth to mouth and rescue breathing, So nothing

0:23:27.600 --> 0:23:30.280
<v Speaker 1>to worry about there either. That's good, although I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you do that to a drowning victim, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>drowning victim, like they often spit up stuff, so you

0:23:35.720 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 1>might get a face full of sea water. But frankly,

0:23:38.280 --> 0:23:40.240
<v Speaker 1>it's a small price to pay for being a hero.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever seen this go downpr or anything yet? Know?

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<v Speaker 1>Not in person. I haven't either. I can't imagine that

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<v Speaker 1>would be And I have friends who have like seen

0:23:51.960 --> 0:23:53.840
<v Speaker 1>stuff like this and like in restaurants or I think

0:23:53.880 --> 0:23:56.160
<v Speaker 1>I had one friend that saw some guy like dropped

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<v Speaker 1>dead on the beach and some guy brought him back

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<v Speaker 1>to life. Yeah, I would love to be there. I'd

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<v Speaker 1>love to do it. But yeah, well we can start

0:24:03.880 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 1>looking for situations. Would you jump in there? Oh yeah,

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:10.159
<v Speaker 1>I like to think I would. Sure, I would. I

0:24:10.200 --> 0:24:13.040
<v Speaker 1>think if someone else was really confident ahead of me,

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<v Speaker 1>I wouldn't like shove them aside, step aside. I'm gonna

0:24:16.119 --> 0:24:18.879
<v Speaker 1>try my hand at this, but I would sure. I would. Definitely,

0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:21.399
<v Speaker 1>I would definitely get in there. And well, that's we

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<v Speaker 1>should also say that's probably accounts for a lot of

0:24:23.840 --> 0:24:27.000
<v Speaker 1>the reasons why people don't do it, is because they

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<v Speaker 1>think they would and then it happens and they are

0:24:29.560 --> 0:24:35.760
<v Speaker 1>frozen in panic or terror or whatever. So that's apparently

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:38.040
<v Speaker 1>one of the things this article says is that's another

0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:40.680
<v Speaker 1>reason why people aren't thinking. Like you said to yourself

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<v Speaker 1>when you came into the podcast, but you screamed luckily

0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.040
<v Speaker 1>off for Jerry, right, But yeah, you shook it off

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<v Speaker 1>and started to think, but you screamed. Uh. If you

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn more about CPR, yeah, you can go

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<v Speaker 1>to how stuff works dot com and type that word

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<v Speaker 1>in the search part, we strongly urge you instead, were

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to to h www dot heart dot org,

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<v Speaker 1>look for a CPR course near you and take it, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>And I said org. So that means it's time for

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<v Speaker 1>listening mail or Ah yeah, Josh, this is uh perfect

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<v Speaker 1>timing for this email and it just came in actually

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of days ago. And it is sad, but

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<v Speaker 1>this guy wanted to get the message out. This from

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<v Speaker 1>Dan in Austin. Guys have been meaning to write for

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<v Speaker 1>ages with little bits and pieces that I picked up

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<v Speaker 1>working as a travel photographer in Indonesia for almost twenty years. However,

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<v Speaker 1>events this past summer UH made these seemike trivialities. Has

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<v Speaker 1>taken this long to complete the email. In July last year,

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<v Speaker 1>while playing with friends in the backyard, my sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old daughter suffered sudden cardiac arrest and collapse. Despite the

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<v Speaker 1>best efforts of those around her, they will not able

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<v Speaker 1>they were not able to recover her pulse and she

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<v Speaker 1>passed on. We would never know the exact nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the attack, but have since discovered such attacks, which can

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<v Speaker 1>be to a number of causes, are alarmingly and tragically frequent,

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<v Speaker 1>and healthy young adults, although broadly defined by either structural

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<v Speaker 1>defects or faults within the electrical circuits that coordinate the hearts, muscles,

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<v Speaker 1>essential beats. Sudden cardiac arrest, which what you've been talking

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<v Speaker 1>about here, uh strikes down between four thousand and seven

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<v Speaker 1>thousand children every year in the U. S A loans

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<v Speaker 1>you like we said, you know, like, this guy's daughter

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<v Speaker 1>was totally healthy sixteen year old. Unlike many of the

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<v Speaker 1>diseases and conditions that you have covered on the show.

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<v Speaker 1>With s c A, the first symptoms of a life

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<v Speaker 1>threatening condition maybe at the time of death. Even equipped

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<v Speaker 1>with resuscitation equipment, survival rates are terrifyingly small, and without

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<v Speaker 1>any equipment they're almost non existent. There are tests, however,

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<v Speaker 1>that can be done once kids reach a certain age

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen, when the heart has reached its adult size,

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<v Speaker 1>but as individuals walking in off the street, the cost

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<v Speaker 1>of these tests may seem prohibitively expensive to parents who

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<v Speaker 1>are not at a quickly informed of the hidden dangers

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<v Speaker 1>that their children face. There are, however, incredible organizations out

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<v Speaker 1>there that are working to change both the public awareness

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<v Speaker 1>and the risks of s c A, and are also

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<v Speaker 1>conducting screening programs to get as many children as possible

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<v Speaker 1>check for no cost. So one of these coincidentally is

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<v Speaker 1>in Austin where he lives, and he came out to

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<v Speaker 1>our pariety show. By the way. Uh, it's called the

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<v Speaker 1>Championship Hearts Foundation, and that is Championships Hearts Foundation dot

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<v Speaker 1>org and that's hearts plural um. And they have the

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<v Speaker 1>express purpose of making cardiac screening affordable and accessible to

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<v Speaker 1>as many families as possible, and frequently conducts community screenings

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<v Speaker 1>around Central Texas where they see like five kids a day. Um. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I can tell you that they can find the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of some form of potentially fatal cardiac condition and

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<v Speaker 1>one out of every two hundred kids or less, you

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<v Speaker 1>can appreciate the value of their mission for all these

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<v Speaker 1>kids their families. This means the saving of a life

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<v Speaker 1>with proper diagnosis, a treatment many children identify going to

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<v Speaker 1>live healthy lives and active lives. So had I been

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<v Speaker 1>better informed guys of this potentially fatal yet silent dangerous

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<v Speaker 1>that look unseen, I would have made sure to have

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter scanned, just as I will have my son

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<v Speaker 1>scanned when they're old enough. I hope that every parent

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<v Speaker 1>listening does the same. So that is Dan, Thanks Dan,

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<v Speaker 1>And that is Championship Hearts Foundation dot org. And he

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<v Speaker 1>said there's lots of good organizations and I didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>about that. And if I ever have kids, that's something

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<v Speaker 1>that I am going to have done when they reached

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<v Speaker 1>the right age. Yeah, maybe we should just start grabbing

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<v Speaker 1>random kids off the street and having them screen. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you been checked. I've got a lot of parents have

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<v Speaker 1>no idea about this. It's very sad. Yeah. Well, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>thank you very much Dan for letting everybody know. That

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<v Speaker 1>was a great, great letter. Yeah, we corresponded a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of times over the past few days and just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 1>We went through a very good guy. Yeah, well cool, Um,

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