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Speaker 1: Brought to you by Toyota. Let's go places. Welcome to

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Speaker 1: Stuff you should know from House Stuff Works dot com. Hey,

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Speaker 1: and welcome to the podcast. I'm Josh Clark with Charles W.

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Speaker 1: Chuck Bryant, and you put the two of us together.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter what, You're still gonna come up with

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Speaker 1: stuff you should know. That's right. You're better or for worse.

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Speaker 1: That's right, man, you're stuck with me. How are you, sir? Tickled?

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm great? I'm ready to to save

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Speaker 1: some lives with it's your podcast today. You know, it's

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Speaker 1: entirely possible that we could you never know, like we

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Speaker 1: could tell somebody how to do the basics of CPR

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Speaker 1: and we should see O A, I see you even

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Speaker 1: have it written down, Like if you are interested in

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Speaker 1: being a above average human being by taking the time

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Speaker 1: to be taught how to UM save someone's life using

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Speaker 1: car your pulmonary resuscitation, you should do that, totally should

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Speaker 1: genuinely you are a better person for that. UM. You

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Speaker 1: can go to heart dot org, the American Heart Association's website,

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Speaker 1: type in your zip code and it will bring up

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Speaker 1: tons of free classes that you can go to at

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Speaker 1: your convenience and become certified in CPR. Yeah you should

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Speaker 1: do that because not only could you maybe be a

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Speaker 1: hero and save some stranger's life, but if you care

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Speaker 1: about the people around you, wouldn't you love to be

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Speaker 1: able to save their life exactly at a moment's notice. Exactly,

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Speaker 1: Like it's almost to me, it's like giving blood. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's almost a human requirement in this day and age.

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Speaker 1: You give blood. Of course I do. I keep mind blood,

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Speaker 1: give me gives blood. She's always like, don't you want

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Speaker 1: to too? Yeah, you should get blood? I know I should. Yeah. Um,

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Speaker 1: I don't even know what my blood type is. There's

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Speaker 1: a pretty good reason to give blood just to find out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: can you test that too? Yeah? How am I doing?

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Speaker 1: Might do? And where's the nutter butters? Yeah that's a

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Speaker 1: that's a bonus too. I always feel guilty when you

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Speaker 1: me shares their nutter butters with you, Like I didn't

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Speaker 1: earn these? These are yours? What did she bring him home?

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Speaker 1: Or do you like go and drop her off and

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Speaker 1: then just sit with your arm scrossed while she gives blood?

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Speaker 1: Be all right ready? Yeah, man, let's let's CPR. Oh so,

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Speaker 1: we're still in the middle of the c o A

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Speaker 1: UM like this is no way intended to replace one

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Speaker 1: of those classes. Like you listen to this podcast. You're

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Speaker 1: not certified, pal, you're possibly a bigger danger than you

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Speaker 1: know before. You're certifiable, but you're not certified. So this

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Speaker 1: is intended to, I guess maybe just kind of go

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Speaker 1: over the absolute basics of CPR UM and hopefully pique

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Speaker 1: take a real class. That's what we're doing here today. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I took when I life Lifeguarded. Obviously took CPR then,

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Speaker 1: but it's been that's been a while. Yeah, it was

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Speaker 1: like twenty years old, you know. So why are you

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Speaker 1: always walking around and nothing but a bathing suit? I

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Speaker 1: don't know, man, Yeah, I thought you still What are

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Speaker 1: you doing then? I don't know. I just like to

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Speaker 1: keep it the skin Mountain Malibu style, Malibu style. UM

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Speaker 1: Skin to win is my friend says, are you ready? Yeah? Okay,

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Speaker 1: So are you familiar with the heart? I am okay. Well,

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Speaker 1: then this won't come as any surprise. The heart has

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Speaker 1: a little part of it that's called the pacemaking area,

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Speaker 1: the sinoatrial node the essay node, and the essay node

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Speaker 1: the heart that calls it to pump, usually about on

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Speaker 1: the low side, once a second. That would mean that

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Speaker 1: you have a heartbeat of about sixty beats per minute,

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Speaker 1: this this thing, this essay no, that that produces electricity,

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Speaker 1: and it produces it in a reliable rhythm. But certain conditions,

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Speaker 1: say like dehydration, uh, stress, all sorts of things can

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Speaker 1: when that happens, usually your heart, the pump weakens, the

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Speaker 1: you familiar with defibrillators. I am. You know they have

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Speaker 1: Clear that's all I can do. And you want to

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Speaker 1: body when it goes off. But you put one paddle

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Speaker 1: over the heart and one paddle over the other side,

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Speaker 1: the charge through and what you're doing is not starting

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Speaker 1: think everybody that doesn't know about the defibrillators know it's

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Speaker 1: kicks it back, kick starts it back up, right. Not true. No,

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Speaker 1: But all of this is leading up to the fact

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Speaker 1: And usually you hear it's there's like a five minute

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Speaker 1: And and this is nothing new, right, No, it's not. Uh,

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Speaker 1: so that's it for you. We're not even gonna try anything.

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Speaker 1: successful resuscitation from chess compression. Well, yeah, it's a it's

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Speaker 1: the fifties and sixties is where they really uh perfected it.

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Speaker 1: a Well that's that's after you've poked me in the

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Speaker 1: seeing that it's not rising or falling, and noted that

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Speaker 1: I'm little more blue than usual. Yeah, I would yell

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Speaker 1: you're supposed to check the person. If it's a child

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Speaker 1: or a baby. They say, never ever shake them, just

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Speaker 1: if it is clear that this person is not breathing

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Speaker 1: And there's a couple of different types of or there's

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Speaker 1: different types of CPR. UM, and depending on how trained

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Speaker 1: So you've just you've determined I'm unconscious. Yeah, you don't

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Speaker 1: thank you very much Dan for letting everybody know. That

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