WEBVTT - Hour 2 – Disappointing Playoff Calls, Jason Garrett

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<v Speaker 1>You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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<v Speaker 2>On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll talk some football with Jason Garrett from Football Night

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<v Speaker 2>in America and how much pressure are these coaching candidates

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Miller will join us in the final hour of

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<v Speaker 2>the program. We stumbled upon a topic a question for

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<v Speaker 2>you the audience in the first hour because Buffalo Bill's

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<v Speaker 2>fans are not going to let go of that interception,

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<v Speaker 2>and instead of blaming who you need to blame, and

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<v Speaker 2>that's Josh Allen, You're going to blame the official. The

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<v Speaker 2>more I see it, the more I hear from former players,

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<v Speaker 2>certainly defensive backs and wide receivers, they made the right call.

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<v Speaker 2>Now in the moment, I didn't think they did, and

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't think once they called it an interception, I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>there's no way they'll be able to overturn this. And

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<v Speaker 2>if you had called it the other way, you wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have been able to overturn it. I don't think if

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<v Speaker 2>you looked at it again, but to say we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to hold that official accountable, that's why we didn't advance,

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<v Speaker 2>you'd be incorrect with that, and you would be holding

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<v Speaker 2>on to something that's really not fair to the totality

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<v Speaker 2>of the way your team played. You should have won

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<v Speaker 2>the game. You should have won the game. Yeah, the

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<v Speaker 2>best player on the field and he didn't play well.

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<v Speaker 2>Seaton Poll question results from hour one and then we'll

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<v Speaker 2>look ahead for hour two.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's see we have up there. Would you rather be

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<v Speaker 3>the head coach of the Cleveland Browns or an offensive

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<v Speaker 3>coordinator somewhere else? That's holding steady at about eighty two

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<v Speaker 3>percent of the audience would rather be an offensive coordinator somewhere.

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<v Speaker 4>Else, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>In fairness to what we're talking about, Mike McDaniel wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>offered the head coaching job in Cleveland. He took his

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<v Speaker 2>name out of the running, and now he's expected to

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<v Speaker 2>be the offensive coordinator with the churchers.

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<v Speaker 3>Some people saying that's not fair because, say, a job

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<v Speaker 3>like the Chargers or the Lions are different types of

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<v Speaker 3>jobs than the offensive coordinator of I don't know, a

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<v Speaker 3>not good.

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<v Speaker 2>Team like the Titans. Perhaps, Okay, yeah, yeah, Paul, Do you.

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<v Speaker 5>Want to play the game if all NFL jobs were

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<v Speaker 5>open today for the same pay, which is the last

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<v Speaker 5>one you'd take? Because it feels like everyone's putting the

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<v Speaker 5>Browns in that list?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 5>Is there a worse situation?

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<v Speaker 2>I think Tennessee is promising, But once again, it goes

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<v Speaker 2>back to can you trust ownership in the front office.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you're bringing in Robert Salah Okay, who's your

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<v Speaker 2>offensive coordinator? To help Cam more? But I do think

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<v Speaker 2>you got a lot of cap space there. I would

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<v Speaker 2>say that, you know, there's promise there. I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>promise in Cleveland. But you got to get a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't think you have a starting quarterback in

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<v Speaker 2>the building. You've got a pretty good defense, you got

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<v Speaker 2>the defensive player of the year, the defensive rookie of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. Okay, but how are your skilled position players?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, now you're in a division that feels like

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<v Speaker 2>it's in a state of flux. Arizona is the place

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go unless I retire. Then I'd

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<v Speaker 2>be fine going there, But if I'm going to coach now,

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<v Speaker 2>they lost like fourteen or their last fifteen. The Raiders situation,

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<v Speaker 2>I got to lean on Brady that Brady will get

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<v Speaker 2>it right. And Brady was at the National title game,

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<v Speaker 2>and from what I was told, coaching candidates were encouraged

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<v Speaker 2>to fly there so they could do all their meetings there.

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<v Speaker 2>Jets situation. I don't like that either. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 2>the same bottom feeders, you know. That's why they're always

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<v Speaker 2>in the topic, you know, conversation with the draft.

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<v Speaker 5>Top five, Yeah, Paul, going back to the Browns, they

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<v Speaker 5>were five and twelve and they were outscored by one

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<v Speaker 5>hundred points this weekend. All right, last year they did

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<v Speaker 5>have a top fifteen defense. For example, the Jets were

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<v Speaker 5>outscored by two hundred and three points, Raiders by one

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<v Speaker 5>ninety one, They Arazon a Cardo by one thirty three.

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<v Speaker 5>Those are the futile teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Some phone calls here with these bad moments that you

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<v Speaker 2>get to revisit here on the program, Chris in Minnesota,

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<v Speaker 2>which the moment you can't move on from.

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<v Speaker 6>Thanks Dan, first time, long time. First of us want

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<v Speaker 6>to thank you Dan for all the years in case

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<v Speaker 6>I never get to call you again, and thank you

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<v Speaker 6>and hopefully you enjoy your retirement in two years. For

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<v Speaker 6>me as a Raiders fan, it's the Tuck rule, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>the tuck rull game. I think goes with what the

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<v Speaker 6>divisional playoff. I can't remember the year, but man, that

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<v Speaker 6>for that rule to now be nonexistent and now here

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<v Speaker 6>it's it was so crucial to that Raiders team. And

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<v Speaker 6>you know, obviously the legend of Tom Brady was that

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<v Speaker 6>was a big stepping.

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<v Speaker 4>Stone for him to win that year.

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<v Speaker 6>But then that play just guts me because that ball

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<v Speaker 6>is pointed right down on the bottom of the ground.

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<v Speaker 7>When he gets sacked.

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<v Speaker 6>So I don't understand, ever, I will ever understand how

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<v Speaker 6>that's not a or how that's a incompletion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when a game has a name a nickname attached

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<v Speaker 2>to it, you know that's one that's not going away

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<v Speaker 2>anytime soon. Uh. Mark in Charleston, Him, Mark, what's on

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<v Speaker 2>your mind?

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<v Speaker 8>Hey?

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<v Speaker 9>Dan, appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yep.

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<v Speaker 9>First, all our longtime listener, I would just like to

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<v Speaker 9>point out as a fan base. I'll set the team.

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<v Speaker 9>It's Super Bowl forty nine. You're a Seahawk fan. You're

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<v Speaker 9>watching your team on the goal line, ready to put

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<v Speaker 9>a dagger in the Patriots. You got Beast mode sitting

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<v Speaker 9>right there, waiting to just steamroll anybody in front of you.

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<v Speaker 9>And what does Pete Carroll do. As smart as a

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<v Speaker 9>coach as he is, he dials up this bush league

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<v Speaker 9>slamp pass and it goes right into the sturdy hands

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<v Speaker 9>of a rookie Malcolm Butler at the time. And then,

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<v Speaker 9>of course Brady does his best Tom Brady impression, takes

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<v Speaker 9>down the field, scores a game winner for them. Good night,

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<v Speaker 9>game over, drive home safely.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, I thought after Malcolm Butler had the interception, they

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<v Speaker 2>just ran out, ran out the clock. They didn't. Tom

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<v Speaker 2>didn't take him down for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 9>Tom prior to that, had taken him down and he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was doing okay, oh yeah, okay, yeah. Because I'm in

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<v Speaker 2>the end zone, I'm standing underneath the goalpost, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>one of those I'll I'll never forget watching that unfold

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<v Speaker 2>because I thought, okay, they either give it to Marshawn

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<v Speaker 2>Lynch or you have a run pass option with Russell Wilson.

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<v Speaker 2>Therefore he can throw the ball away, maybe he runs

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<v Speaker 2>it in for a touchdown. I did not think that

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<v Speaker 2>throwing the ball over the middle, because when he did it,

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<v Speaker 2>I went, oh, bleep because it was so tight the

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<v Speaker 2>traffic in there. But Malcolm Butler, what an unbelievable play

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<v Speaker 2>might be the greatest play in Super Bowl history? Isn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>Could it be a loss became a win? Yes? And

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<v Speaker 2>for what Brady's resume is and Belichick's resume, what was

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<v Speaker 2>attached to that? Yes, Marvin, you.

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<v Speaker 10>Hit it on the head. That one play differentiates whether

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<v Speaker 10>Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman, Pete Carroll gets into the Hall

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<v Speaker 10>of Fame or not.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Kevin in Cleveland, Hi, Kevin A.

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<v Speaker 7>DP Dannetz five seven. And according to WebMD, morbidly obese.

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<v Speaker 7>You may be the only one amongst the guys that

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<v Speaker 7>remember this. But red right eighty eight January fourth, nineteen

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<v Speaker 7>eighty one, Raiders Browns. I was eighteen years old at

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<v Speaker 7>the time I saw it and wept in front of

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<v Speaker 7>the TV. And is it unhealthy? Just last question? Is

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<v Speaker 7>it unhealthy that every January fourth since then I walk

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<v Speaker 7>around with a not in my stomach my wife. Yes,

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<v Speaker 7>I think it's justified.

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<v Speaker 2>Let describe the play to the audience.

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<v Speaker 7>Okay, the play was. It was thirteen seconds left, I believe,

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<v Speaker 7>and the Browns had a choice. It was thirty seven

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<v Speaker 7>below zero. The Browns had a choice to kick a

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<v Speaker 7>field goal and win the game or go for a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 7>And Sam Retigliano, the coach at the time, decided this

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<v Speaker 7>play and Brian Site threw it and it was an

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<v Speaker 7>interception game over. It was I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 7>could you could hear a pin drop in the stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Well happen, and you know, you could have picked the

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<v Speaker 2>Ernest Biner fumble, John Elways drive was a series of

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<v Speaker 2>plays there, but Ernest Byner the fumble. Yeah, Brian Site

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<v Speaker 2>Site might have been MVP that year as well. Uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Brian in Missouri. Hey Brian, Hey, good morning Dan.

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<v Speaker 8>First of all, let me say that the fact that

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<v Speaker 8>you guys don't have a sports that me should be

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<v Speaker 8>investigated by I don't know, Congress.

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<v Speaker 2>Congress has more important things. Not really, not really, it's criminal,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Brian, thank you.

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<v Speaker 8>My play is the twenty eighteen AFC Championship game when

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<v Speaker 8>freaking d Ford lines up off sides, the Chiefs intercept Brady.

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<v Speaker 8>They are going to go to the super Bowl. It's

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<v Speaker 8>Patrick Mahomes's first year as a starter. He's thrown for

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<v Speaker 8>over five thousand yards passing and I'm not mistaken fifty

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<v Speaker 8>touchdowns and d Ford can't line up.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you made up for that with some super bowls, yes, Paulie.

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<v Speaker 5>But if they don't win a bunch of Super Bowls

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<v Speaker 5>after that, that play has a lot more legendary status.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm looking at it right now. D Ford's a foot

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<v Speaker 5>over the line.

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<v Speaker 2>Of scrimmage, Mike Jones tackling Kevin Dyson at the one

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<v Speaker 2>yard line. Yeah, Paulie.

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<v Speaker 5>Now, I just looked at that play when Mike Jones

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<v Speaker 5>made that tackle on Dyson. If they score and go

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<v Speaker 5>for one, obviously it goes to overtime. So it's not

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<v Speaker 5>a loss different than Malcolm.

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<v Speaker 2>Butler, Jesse and Kansas. I like how we're tapping into

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<v Speaker 2>people's misery. We're trying to make Buffalo Bill's fans feel

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit better today. What do you have for me,

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<v Speaker 2>jess Hey.

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<v Speaker 11>Third time, A long time, young blooded, old school I've

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<v Speaker 11>got too damn but real fast. If I can say,

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<v Speaker 11>I called in last year at the dress to tell

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<v Speaker 11>you guys about my sons in the nick you and

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<v Speaker 11>I might need to help me in this case.

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<v Speaker 1>But he's doing great.

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<v Speaker 12>He's almost one years old.

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<v Speaker 11>He has a cerful palsy diagnosis. He thought it affective

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<v Speaker 11>most kids, and he's super happy, get and curious. But

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<v Speaker 11>I didn't get to say thank you to you guys,

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<v Speaker 11>to you the day nets the back room guys, Stephen

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<v Speaker 11>Wilson Jr. The song twisted, you know really helped me out.

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<v Speaker 11>You guys, we didn't have a lot of time, and

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<v Speaker 11>you know, you know what to do for people, but

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<v Speaker 11>just wanted you know, you have an audience of people.

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<v Speaker 11>I'm not in a hospital bed every day, but I'm

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<v Speaker 11>trauma bound here show three hours a day because I

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<v Speaker 11>need you guys to help me get through my life.

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<v Speaker 11>So I just wanted to say that.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you guys, Thank you, thank you, Jesse, thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Curtis and Illinoishi Curtis ADP.

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<v Speaker 13>The game that lives just rent free in my head

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<v Speaker 13>still to this day is the twenty twelve sail Mary

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<v Speaker 13>again still is living in Illinois. Being a Packers fan

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<v Speaker 13>isn't bad enough this time of year, but just reliving

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<v Speaker 13>that one, and I still hate Russell Wilson in the

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<v Speaker 13>Seahawks word because it's got to be the worst officiated

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<v Speaker 13>play in NFL history.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a list of those plays. But thank you, Curtis.

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<v Speaker 7>Seeen.

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<v Speaker 2>Did we come up with the pole question for hour two?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I've been trying to wait to see how this

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<v Speaker 3>topic shakes out, to see if one presents itself about

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<v Speaker 3>worst calls or worst plays, most painful plays, etc. We

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<v Speaker 3>do have one here from Marvin about the biggest baseball

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<v Speaker 3>Hall of Fame snub Dale Murphy, Don Mattingley or Steve

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<v Speaker 3>Garvey's fun Okay, I like that. We'll throw that one

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<v Speaker 3>up there, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, Murph was he was so close. It felt

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<v Speaker 2>like two MVPs didn't win anything except for one of

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<v Speaker 2>the nicest people I've ever met my life. Went from

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<v Speaker 2>being a catcher to a center fielder. But he's in

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<v Speaker 2>the Hall of good, very good. He's in the Hall

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<v Speaker 2>of very Good. Mattingly. Mattingly was like two years two

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<v Speaker 2>good years away, I feel like, and if he won

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<v Speaker 2>a World Series like they did that next year, he's

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<v Speaker 2>probably in the Hall of Fame. And Garby to me,

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<v Speaker 2>is a Hall of Famer. When you say the name,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, yeah, okay, yeah, hall of Famer, yeah, Mark, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 10>I think Don Matteleie being a great player and not

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<v Speaker 10>winning with the Yankees definitely hurts the resume and him

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<v Speaker 10>not playing a really long time and it's not like

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<v Speaker 10>he played for twenty years. His great years are probably ten.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Mattingly was a better player than Kirby Pucket,

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<v Speaker 2>but Kirby was so instrumental in the Twins winning couple

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<v Speaker 2>of World Series titles, and he also had the injury

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<v Speaker 2>as well. Because I think you have to play a

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<v Speaker 2>minimum of ten years. Is that what it is? But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's tricky with the Hall of Fame because we tend

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<v Speaker 2>to throw I don't know, people's names are AT's what

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<v Speaker 2>they did, what they didn't do. I mean, it's their life.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it's the most important thing in their in

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<v Speaker 2>their life or at least their career, the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, we tend to kind of go, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>this and that and what did he do? And then

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<v Speaker 2>you know postseason and you know they're just there's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of things involved, and then of course you throw

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<v Speaker 2>in the steroids because you know that's tricky. But I

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<v Speaker 2>do think somewhere down the road a whole new wave

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<v Speaker 2>of younger writers will look at steroids differently. I do

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<v Speaker 2>think that it's it's the era, the era that these

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<v Speaker 2>guys were in, and and and if if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to put Bonds in and you know, we we bring

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<v Speaker 2>this up every year at this time or a Rod

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<v Speaker 2>just put it on their plaque, put put something that

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<v Speaker 2>denotes what happened, you know. But Bonds was never like

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<v Speaker 2>that's trickier. Hey Rodd, you know they popped him twice.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess he shouldn't be involved in baseball at all.

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<v Speaker 2>Now he's one of the faces of baseball. Yes, Mark

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<v Speaker 2>Steve Garvey was before my time. But was there a

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<v Speaker 2>signature moment, Like I know he had a great playoff

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<v Speaker 2>run as far as batting average, but does he have

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<v Speaker 2>that signature home run a lah David Ortiz where you

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<v Speaker 2>can point to something that he did in the postseason. No,

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<v Speaker 2>he played in one World Series, but he was very

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<v Speaker 2>good in the postseason. I mean he had numbers and

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<v Speaker 2>National leagu Championship Series. Was he two World Series or one? One?

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<v Speaker 14>Dan?

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<v Speaker 5>He hit three twenty five in that World Series?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Yeah, And you know with my source saying, Hey, Garvey,

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<v Speaker 2>whenever his name comes up, the voters, writers tend to

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<v Speaker 2>chop him up, like you know, it's Benny Hannah with

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<v Speaker 2>his defense. Well, he did win four Gold Gloves. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, seems like that better than average. It's weird

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<v Speaker 2>how we use somebody's defensive abilities or liabilities. I've heard many, many,

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<v Speaker 2>many times that the joker can't play defense, Steph Curry

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<v Speaker 2>can't play defense. I don't know if Shay Gilgess Alexander

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<v Speaker 2>can play defense. I've never heard somebody say, man, he

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<v Speaker 2>can play defense. It's he gets a lot of free

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<v Speaker 2>throws and you'll be the MVP again this year. Yes, pulling.

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<v Speaker 5>It is frustrating also when certain players like a Steve

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<v Speaker 5>Garvey or whoever you want to talk about, Dale Murphy,

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<v Speaker 5>they're in their late seventies and you want to do

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<v Speaker 5>it now. You want to let them enjoy it now,

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<v Speaker 5>because where would be Where would the outrage be if

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<v Speaker 5>Steve Garvey got into the Hall of Fame.

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<v Speaker 2>Not No, there wouldn't be none. Yeah, yeah, it does feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Weird to hold the defensive abilities of a baseball player

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<v Speaker 3>against them when they have a position called designated hitter.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't have a designated Yeah, but I remember Frank

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<v Speaker 2>Thomas won the MVP, and you know people are like,

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<v Speaker 2>not a very good defender, a pretty good at offense.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Rafael pal Merrow won a Gold Glove and

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<v Speaker 2>I think he played less than ten games at first base, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>how is that possible? Must have been ten great games,

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<v Speaker 2>lights out. It must have been the most unbelievable performance there.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you get these awards, I don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>nobody cares about gold Glove now. Back back in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties,

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<v Speaker 2>it felt like it was important, But I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it is now.

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<v Speaker 10>Yes, Marv, is it because baseball is out of the

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<v Speaker 10>national consciousness?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we look at baseball as you either strike somebody

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<v Speaker 2>out or you hit a home run. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>we look at it as boy, they got a great

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<v Speaker 2>defensive team.

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<v Speaker 10>So what have Ozzie Smith had been a big star

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<v Speaker 10>like he was in the eighties today's game?

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<v Speaker 2>No, No, I don't think So let me take a break.

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Garrett, Well, Jonas, we'll talk to some of these

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<v Speaker 2>coaching vacancies. He interviewed for the Tennessee John He'll join

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<v Speaker 2>Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America's studio analyst, former

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<v Speaker 2>Cowboys head coach back on the program. We were just

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<v Speaker 2>talking about painful moments, you know, Buffalo Bill's fans having

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time getting over that interception, and you were

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<v Speaker 2>the coach of the Cowboys for the des Bryant play.

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<v Speaker 2>I was is that your toughest play? That like that

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<v Speaker 2>still stays with you of all the plays when you

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<v Speaker 2>were coaching or a player.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I would say two plays.

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<v Speaker 14>The des Bryant play would be one, and then the

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<v Speaker 14>other play was a couple of years later in the

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<v Speaker 14>Divisional Ral when when Aaron Rodgers rolled left and made

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<v Speaker 14>that amazing throw. So, yeah, we had we had a

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<v Speaker 14>couple of interesting ones at the end of games, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>with a chance to go to the NFC Championship game

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<v Speaker 14>and they go right to the end of the end

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<v Speaker 14>of the game against the Packers.

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<v Speaker 4>And Aaron Rodgers.

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<v Speaker 2>But the des Bryant call. What were you told in

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<v Speaker 2>the moment and were you okay with what they told

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<v Speaker 2>you about that non touchdown?

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<v Speaker 14>Well, uh, I feel like I'm an expert in this

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<v Speaker 14>area because I've talked about this a lot with a

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<v Speaker 14>lot of people through the years.

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<v Speaker 4>Uh I was.

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<v Speaker 14>I was bothered by the call for a couple of

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<v Speaker 14>different reasons. The number of times I had heard prior

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<v Speaker 14>to that play.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, how long do you need to catch the ball?

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<v Speaker 14>And there was always this idea of, hey, all you

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<v Speaker 14>need is time enough to make a football move. And

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<v Speaker 14>the officials who would tell me this, they would say, hey,

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<v Speaker 14>he doesn't have to make a football move. It's just

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<v Speaker 14>time enough to make a football move. And if you

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<v Speaker 14>look at the Dead Briant play. You know, he catches

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<v Speaker 14>the ball just outside the five yard line. It was

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<v Speaker 14>one of the most amazing catches I believe in the

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<v Speaker 14>history of football. He catches it and he switches hands

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<v Speaker 14>with it. He gets one foot down, two foot down.

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<v Speaker 14>The third he lunges, so he's switched hands. He's gotten

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<v Speaker 14>the feet down. Lunge is a football move. He has

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<v Speaker 14>the ball here, he extends it. These are all football

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<v Speaker 14>moves over the course of five yards. So he's essentially

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<v Speaker 14>running with the ball to get himself down there to

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<v Speaker 14>make that extension. And you know, for them to come

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<v Speaker 14>back and say he needs to survive the ground, this

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<v Speaker 14>thing that seemed to trump everything else. You know, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 14>how many times have I heard from you guys? He

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<v Speaker 14>doesn't even have to make a football move, He just

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<v Speaker 14>needs time enough. And literally he made seven football moves

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<v Speaker 14>over the course of five yards. And then the other

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<v Speaker 14>part of it is it was ruled to catch on

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<v Speaker 14>the field by a guy who was standing right there.

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<v Speaker 14>And so for them to come into it afterwards and say,

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<v Speaker 14>you know, it's indisputable that this is not a catch,

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<v Speaker 14>it was really a.

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<v Speaker 4>Hard thing for me to comprehend.

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<v Speaker 14>And if you remember after that, it started with Calvin

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<v Speaker 14>Johnson and then it was the des play, and then

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<v Speaker 14>for about three or four years after that, every catch

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<v Speaker 14>or non catch was viewed through that same prism, and

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<v Speaker 14>they completely screwed up.

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<v Speaker 4>What a catch was.

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, guys are running down the field stumbling, and

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<v Speaker 14>they have it for ten yards, but he falls down

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<v Speaker 14>and all of a sudden, that's not a catch. And

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<v Speaker 14>so a little bit like the tuck rule, took him

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<v Speaker 14>about five years to quietly try to change it. But

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<v Speaker 14>I think we're kind of back to that same place,

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<v Speaker 14>and I think it's frustrating for a lot of people.

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<v Speaker 2>What did you think in the moment of the interception

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<v Speaker 2>in the Broncos Bills game.

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<v Speaker 4>I still think it's a catch.

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<v Speaker 14>I do you know, a hundred years ago in football

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<v Speaker 14>you had to tackle a guy and lay on top

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<v Speaker 14>of him and keep him down. If you look at

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<v Speaker 14>the old films, they tackle him and the guy keeps

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<v Speaker 14>getting back up. Right, that's rugby. We're not playing rugby, right,

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<v Speaker 14>We're playing football. So for him to make that catch,

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<v Speaker 14>secure the ball, go to the ground, be touched, and

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<v Speaker 14>then have the defender rip the ball out when they're

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<v Speaker 14>on the ground, what are we doing?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, it's a catch.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was a catch in the moment, and

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<v Speaker 2>the more I looked at it, the more it felt

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<v Speaker 2>like the defender was getting his hands on the ball

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<v Speaker 2>before they hit the ground. I was, first of all,

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<v Speaker 2>I was surprised that they called it in interception, and

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<v Speaker 2>I knew they weren't going to overturn it. If they

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<v Speaker 2>called her to catch, I don't think they would have

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<v Speaker 2>overturned it either.

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<v Speaker 14>Yeah, and again that's what takes me back to the

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<v Speaker 14>des Brian play. It was called a catch, and to

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<v Speaker 14>say indiscantable evidence overturns it. You know, I have a

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<v Speaker 14>regret about that play. Dan afterwards in the game, you know,

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<v Speaker 14>it was a head coach, you're always preaching no excuses,

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<v Speaker 14>and you know I talked to our guys about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 14>that was one play. We had fifty six minutes before,

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<v Speaker 14>We had four minutes afterwards to win that game. So

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<v Speaker 14>we're not gonna We're not going to rely on officials

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<v Speaker 14>to make the right calls. It's our job as players

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<v Speaker 14>and coaches. Having said that, something I wish I should

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<v Speaker 14>have said was in the moment, I get all that

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<v Speaker 14>there's no excuses.

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<v Speaker 4>We had our opportunities.

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<v Speaker 14>But Tony Rollman made an amazing throw and Dez Bryant

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<v Speaker 14>made one of the greatest catches in the history of

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<v Speaker 14>the National Football League. And for me as a coach,

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<v Speaker 14>as a former player, and as a fan of footbootball,

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<v Speaker 14>this play should have been in the lore of Bradshaw

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<v Speaker 14>to Swan over Mark Washington and the Super Bowl falling

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<v Speaker 14>stumbling down. There should have been Roger staullback to Butch Johnson,

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<v Speaker 14>all of those amazing plays in the history of the game.

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<v Speaker 4>And somehow it got caught up and officiating.

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<v Speaker 14>And I thought about this the other day because coming

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<v Speaker 14>out of that game, what did we talk about? We

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<v Speaker 14>talked about a catcher, no catch or interception, and then

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<v Speaker 14>we talked about the past interferences on the following drive. Right,

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<v Speaker 14>They let the players play a certain way the whole game,

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<v Speaker 14>and then all of a sudden, we're calling these plays

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<v Speaker 14>at the end.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have nothing against Denver.

0:24:38.800 --> 0:24:41.560
<v Speaker 14>They did a fantastic job all year long, but I

0:24:41.600 --> 0:24:44.560
<v Speaker 14>hate as a fan of football that officiating in these

0:24:44.600 --> 0:24:46.919
<v Speaker 14>big games is what the conversation is.

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<v Speaker 2>What was it like to interview for the Tennessee John.

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<v Speaker 14>A great experience, really like Mike Organzi their general manager,

0:24:56.600 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 14>Dave Zigglers their assistant general manager, Reggie McKenzie's there, Chat Brinker,

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.919
<v Speaker 14>really good guys. You know, I went down there. The

0:25:03.960 --> 0:25:06.120
<v Speaker 14>interview was supposed to be like I think from nine

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<v Speaker 14>to twelve. We went from about nine to fifteen to

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<v Speaker 14>close to three o'clock, so, you know, plenty of time

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:15.960
<v Speaker 14>to talk about football and a vision.

0:25:15.720 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 4>For the team.

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<v Speaker 2>But are you thinking the long team the longer it

0:25:19.480 --> 0:25:22.680
<v Speaker 2>goes that, Like, you know, if it's only going to

0:25:22.760 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>go three hours and now it goes close to six

0:25:24.720 --> 0:25:27.879
<v Speaker 2>hours in your mind, are you going you call your

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<v Speaker 2>wife and you say, man, I killed it.

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<v Speaker 14>You know, no, not so much that More than just

0:25:34.440 --> 0:25:37.200
<v Speaker 14>I love talking football, and I really like the guys

0:25:37.200 --> 0:25:40.800
<v Speaker 14>they put together there, some former general managers coming together,

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.199
<v Speaker 14>and I think they have shared values and how to

0:25:43.200 --> 0:25:45.679
<v Speaker 14>build the team in a lot of ways. There's a

0:25:45.680 --> 0:25:49.879
<v Speaker 14>blank canvas down there, a really good young quarterback, an

0:25:49.920 --> 0:25:54.240
<v Speaker 14>elite defensive player playing defensive line for him. So he's awesome,

0:25:54.600 --> 0:25:57.600
<v Speaker 14>and it was it was just fun talking ball and

0:25:57.640 --> 0:25:59.840
<v Speaker 14>sharing your vision for what the team can be, and

0:26:00.280 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 14>a really good experience.

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<v Speaker 2>Talking to Jason Garrett NBC Football Night in America studio analyst.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're coaching the Broncos, how do you use Jared

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<v Speaker 2>Stidham And are you using him in a way that

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<v Speaker 2>you are not wouldn't be using bow knicks, you know.

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<v Speaker 14>I think Sean will do a great job with him.

0:26:20.119 --> 0:26:22.400
<v Speaker 14>I played for Sean for three years. I think one

0:26:22.400 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 14>of his great traits is creating a comfortable environment for quarterbacks,

0:26:26.400 --> 0:26:26.960
<v Speaker 14>and I.

0:26:26.920 --> 0:26:27.800
<v Speaker 4>Think he'll do that.

0:26:28.200 --> 0:26:31.119
<v Speaker 14>I think Stidham's skill set is actually pretty similar to

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<v Speaker 14>bo Knix's. They both do a good job with movement plays,

0:26:35.000 --> 0:26:36.440
<v Speaker 14>play action type stuff.

0:26:37.080 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 4>Certainly capable for throwing the ball from the pocket.

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<v Speaker 16>You know.

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<v Speaker 14>The concern is Jared Stidham has started four games in

0:26:43.800 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 14>the NFL, so he does not have that much experience.

0:26:47.160 --> 0:26:50.520
<v Speaker 14>So even though he's played in the NFL for a while,

0:26:50.960 --> 0:26:53.440
<v Speaker 14>he hasn't taken these game snaps, certainly not in the

0:26:53.480 --> 0:26:56.640
<v Speaker 14>AFC Championship game. So I think Sean will have that

0:26:57.080 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 14>in the forefront of his mind. He'll get them comfortable

0:26:59.760 --> 0:27:04.840
<v Speaker 14>in the game. Run the ball, movement plays, screens, those

0:27:04.920 --> 0:27:07.159
<v Speaker 14>kinds of things, get them some completion.

0:27:07.400 --> 0:27:09.199
<v Speaker 4>You know, the guys at NBC hear me say this

0:27:09.240 --> 0:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>all the time.

0:27:10.119 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 14>Get them five completions before he even knows he's out there,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:16.400
<v Speaker 14>you know. And I think that's a big thing. As

0:27:16.440 --> 0:27:18.520
<v Speaker 14>a coordinator, that's always what you're trying to do for

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:22.159
<v Speaker 14>your quarterbacks, certainly in big moments like this. So I

0:27:22.160 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 14>think their skill sets are the same. I don't think

0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:26.040
<v Speaker 14>they'll have to change that much. But I think Sean

0:27:26.040 --> 0:27:29.199
<v Speaker 14>will be mindful of how much he hasn't played. I

0:27:29.200 --> 0:27:30.560
<v Speaker 14>think he'll try to get them comfortable.

0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:34.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm wondering about these coaching vacancies, the pressure. I mean,

0:27:34.880 --> 0:27:38.760
<v Speaker 2>normally you don't have, you know, playoff teams, changing coaches.

0:27:40.520 --> 0:27:43.240
<v Speaker 2>You go into Buffalo, you're expected to go to the

0:27:43.280 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>AFC title game. I'm guessing you go to Baltimore, you're

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:49.240
<v Speaker 2>expected to go to the AFC title game. You go

0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:51.960
<v Speaker 2>into Pittsburgh, you're expected to make the playoffs. This is

0:27:52.000 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>in Arizona. This isn't Tennessee. This is in Cleveland. I

0:27:56.040 --> 0:28:00.879
<v Speaker 2>can't remember where you had vacancies where the pressure was this,

0:28:01.160 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>you know, ratcheted this high.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, there's no doubt.

0:28:06.000 --> 0:28:08.000
<v Speaker 14>And those are really good coaches who had coached for

0:28:08.080 --> 0:28:11.200
<v Speaker 14>a long time and build amazing programs and to replace

0:28:11.280 --> 0:28:14.560
<v Speaker 14>those guys. Uh, and then you know, like you said,

0:28:14.680 --> 0:28:17.160
<v Speaker 14>ratchet it up, take it to the next level. Those

0:28:17.160 --> 0:28:19.160
<v Speaker 14>are not easy things to do. I do think they're

0:28:19.160 --> 0:28:23.920
<v Speaker 14>really good organizations. Steelers is a great organization, Raven's great organization,

0:28:24.119 --> 0:28:28.560
<v Speaker 14>So Buffalo really good organization. So I do think that

0:28:29.080 --> 0:28:31.560
<v Speaker 14>they have some things in place there that you like

0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.800
<v Speaker 14>in all those spots. There's no question about that for me.

0:28:35.920 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 14>You know. The other thing, you know, some of those

0:28:38.320 --> 0:28:41.880
<v Speaker 14>teams that have not been as good. You know, all

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.200
<v Speaker 14>of a sudden, you're looking at what Mike Vrabel did

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.760
<v Speaker 14>in New England. Hey they won four they won four

0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:49.760
<v Speaker 14>games last year and then the AFC Championship game. So

0:28:49.840 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 14>all of a sudden, there's an expectation there that you're

0:28:52.480 --> 0:28:54.920
<v Speaker 14>supposed to flip it around in year one, and I

0:28:54.960 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 14>think ownership in those spots needs to be careful. I

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.560
<v Speaker 14>think those are exceptions go back in the history of football.

0:29:01.560 --> 0:29:04.440
<v Speaker 14>It's hard to turn things around. And then even if

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.080
<v Speaker 14>you look at a team like Washington, dan Quinn did

0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.640
<v Speaker 14>such an amazing job in year one and now that

0:29:09.640 --> 0:29:13.040
<v Speaker 14>they've kind of fallen back to the mean, if you will,

0:29:13.400 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 14>So I think you want to build it the right

0:29:16.360 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 14>way regards of where you're coming from, and if you

0:29:19.320 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 14>go into those places, you got to be careful about

0:29:22.360 --> 0:29:24.680
<v Speaker 14>trying to copy the guy who was there before. You

0:29:24.800 --> 0:29:26.760
<v Speaker 14>better be yourself. I think a lot of mistakes are

0:29:26.760 --> 0:29:29.920
<v Speaker 14>made when guys try to copy what's been there. Be

0:29:30.040 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 14>yourself and get yourself going.

0:29:33.080 --> 0:29:35.400
<v Speaker 2>It feels like we're not going to give Seattle credit

0:29:35.720 --> 0:29:39.280
<v Speaker 2>until we see Seattle winning a super Bowl. Like it

0:29:39.400 --> 0:29:42.640
<v Speaker 2>just felt like regular season, Okay, I mean toughest division,

0:29:44.680 --> 0:29:47.000
<v Speaker 2>and it almost feels like people are rooting for the

0:29:47.080 --> 0:29:49.880
<v Speaker 2>Rams because the Rams look like, you know, hey, I

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:53.280
<v Speaker 2>got Stafford there, and I got Pookainakua and Sean McVay. Like,

0:29:53.320 --> 0:29:57.640
<v Speaker 2>Seattle's just played great football. I just don't know if

0:29:57.680 --> 0:30:01.120
<v Speaker 2>we've acknowledged the great football that they played from start

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:03.600
<v Speaker 2>to finish.

0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:07.440
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Seattle was really really good. Middle of the year.

0:30:07.480 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 14>I went out there and I interviewed Sam Darnold and

0:30:09.960 --> 0:30:12.560
<v Speaker 14>got a chance to spend the day there watch practice,

0:30:12.600 --> 0:30:14.760
<v Speaker 14>be around the meetings and walk throughs and stuff, and

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 14>I just love I just love everything about their team.

0:30:18.560 --> 0:30:21.240
<v Speaker 14>I think they've built it the right way again, created

0:30:21.240 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 14>a great environment for their quarterback. Jsn is an elite

0:30:24.960 --> 0:30:28.960
<v Speaker 14>player on offense. But for me, you know what separates

0:30:29.000 --> 0:30:31.520
<v Speaker 14>them as their defense on all three levels. These guys

0:30:31.560 --> 0:30:33.720
<v Speaker 14>are really really good, and I think they're head coach

0:30:34.280 --> 0:30:38.680
<v Speaker 14>and defensive genius. Mike McDonald is fantastic, and you know,

0:30:38.920 --> 0:30:41.400
<v Speaker 14>I have a good story about him. I've gotten to

0:30:41.440 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 14>know him a little bit over the last couple of years.

0:30:43.360 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 4>And so we're.

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<v Speaker 14>Talking about, you know, building, you know, everyone talks about

0:30:47.400 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 14>building culture and all of that. I said, you've done

0:30:49.640 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 14>an amazing job here And I said, you know, what

0:30:52.080 --> 0:30:52.600
<v Speaker 14>have you done?

0:30:52.720 --> 0:30:55.280
<v Speaker 4>And he was so honest and humble. He said, last

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:56.400
<v Speaker 4>year I had no idea.

0:30:56.120 --> 0:30:57.240
<v Speaker 2>What I was doing.

0:30:58.400 --> 0:31:00.680
<v Speaker 4>He said, I have no idea. You kind of dive

0:31:00.720 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 4>into it and you just are reeling.

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.160
<v Speaker 14>But he said, after after the season, he got a

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:06.720
<v Speaker 14>chance to sit down and really think about what you

0:31:06.760 --> 0:31:09.200
<v Speaker 14>want to build here. And you know, Pete Carroll had

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 14>done a great job building a certain culture there and

0:31:12.160 --> 0:31:14.640
<v Speaker 14>and and I asked him, I said, hey, is this

0:31:14.840 --> 0:31:18.520
<v Speaker 14>just like you, you know, trying to replicate what happened

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:21.800
<v Speaker 14>in Baltimore, that that's your experience. And he said, yeah,

0:31:21.800 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 14>in some ways, because I was there for so long.

0:31:23.840 --> 0:31:26.320
<v Speaker 14>But he said, I also pulled back and said, you know,

0:31:26.400 --> 0:31:29.440
<v Speaker 14>this has to be our culture in the environment we create.

0:31:29.600 --> 0:31:32.760
<v Speaker 14>So keeping some of the good stuff from Pete Carroll absolutely,

0:31:33.080 --> 0:31:35.320
<v Speaker 14>some of the stuff from the Ravens absolutely, some of

0:31:35.360 --> 0:31:37.880
<v Speaker 14>the stuff from our players and coaches, things that they

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:38.800
<v Speaker 14>think are important.

0:31:39.120 --> 0:31:41.080
<v Speaker 4>Absolutely, And then at the end of it, he says,

0:31:41.480 --> 0:31:43.240
<v Speaker 4>you know, if.

0:31:43.040 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 14>The coach was all about my personality, we'd be really boring.

0:31:48.440 --> 0:31:51.520
<v Speaker 4>So we don't. We don't want to be that, you know.

0:31:51.920 --> 0:31:54.080
<v Speaker 14>And so to me, he's so he's so good at

0:31:54.080 --> 0:31:56.160
<v Speaker 14>what he does, but he's so humble, and I think

0:31:56.200 --> 0:31:58.440
<v Speaker 14>what he's created there and what they've created there, John

0:31:58.480 --> 0:32:01.000
<v Speaker 14>Schneider a great job, but the person well, I love

0:32:01.040 --> 0:32:02.120
<v Speaker 14>their team.

0:32:02.520 --> 0:32:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Jace, good to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us.

0:32:05.400 --> 0:32:07.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, enjoy the game this weekend.

0:32:07.160 --> 0:32:12.320
<v Speaker 2>That's Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America studio analyst. Well,

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:16.000
<v Speaker 2>they may have taken on Mike McDonald's personality. They're kind

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.280
<v Speaker 2>of boring, but they're boringly great. I think any of

0:32:20.320 --> 0:32:23.160
<v Speaker 2>these other teams would say, we'll take on that personality.

0:32:23.280 --> 0:32:25.520
<v Speaker 2>We're fine with that. We'll take a break. More of

0:32:25.560 --> 0:32:28.640
<v Speaker 2>your phone calls, more of your misery. We're back after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Reggie Miller in a half hour from now. Golden State

0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:46.719
<v Speaker 2>Warriors without Jimmy Butler the rest of the season, and

0:32:46.760 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>you start to wonder, are the Warriors kind of morphing

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.400
<v Speaker 2>into the Lakers the last couple of years with Kobe Bryant,

0:32:53.480 --> 0:32:56.520
<v Speaker 2>where it was we're not going to be threatening, but

0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>come on out and watch Kobe end his career. Steph

0:33:01.080 --> 0:33:03.080
<v Speaker 2>Curry is still playing at a pretty high level at

0:33:03.120 --> 0:33:08.400
<v Speaker 2>thirty seven. Now they're trying to maybe send Jonathan kaminga

0:33:08.440 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 2>who I think has been rumored to be traded the

0:33:10.960 --> 0:33:15.800
<v Speaker 2>last two years now might be traded so they can

0:33:15.880 --> 0:33:18.600
<v Speaker 2>get somebody. But they're gonna they're not gonna get somebody young.

0:33:18.640 --> 0:33:21.200
<v Speaker 2>They're gonna have to get somebody older. And they're talking

0:33:21.240 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 2>about maybe Damar rote DeRozan, which okay, I mean, that's

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:32.800
<v Speaker 2>that's that's okay. They're talking now once again, there's these opportunities.

0:33:33.120 --> 0:33:37.200
<v Speaker 2>Maybe they could bring back Klay Thompson. That's a possibility.

0:33:37.600 --> 0:33:42.800
<v Speaker 2>Dallas is interested in Jonathan KAMINGA. But for Steph Curry,

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:48.800
<v Speaker 2>what do you got two more years? Maybe maybe a

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:52.240
<v Speaker 2>third because I can't see him going from being the

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.440
<v Speaker 2>focal point to them just being maybe the way Lebron

0:33:56.640 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 2>is with the Lakers now, maybe he can be that

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:03.200
<v Speaker 2>where You're like, well, I'll be your third option. I'd

0:34:03.240 --> 0:34:05.960
<v Speaker 2>like to see what the other two options are, because

0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you're gonna find somebody who's still

0:34:08.040 --> 0:34:10.120
<v Speaker 2>going to be better than Steph Curry. So we'll talk

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<v Speaker 12>Oh? Just first time caller? Uh six?

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<v Speaker 6>Just bringing back misery?

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<v Speaker 17>Was at the two thousand and seven Wild Card Game

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<v Speaker 17>Dallas in Seattle and Romo Bubble jew.

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<v Speaker 7>Less than two minutes left.

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<v Speaker 12>Oh, Jason Garrett didn't bring that one up, but that

0:34:53.800 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 12>one hurts well.

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<v Speaker 2>He wasn't part of the team. I asked him about

0:34:57.239 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 2>when he was coaching the Cowboys. He wasn't there and

0:35:00.160 --> 0:35:04.120
<v Speaker 2>Romo watched the field goal snap and then tried to

0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 2>run it in. You still go back to that des

0:35:07.400 --> 0:35:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Bryant play. It is fascinating that they didn't think that

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it was he was making football a football move. He

0:35:17.239 --> 0:35:25.719
<v Speaker 2>made football moves. I bizarre, bizarre, and that you know

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<v Speaker 2>you overturn that so it's called to catch on the field,

0:35:30.800 --> 0:35:33.399
<v Speaker 2>and then they overturned it like there's certain times when

0:35:33.400 --> 0:35:37.600
<v Speaker 2>you say they're not going to overturn that, that when

0:35:37.640 --> 0:35:41.080
<v Speaker 2>they did. But I still think, you know, the embarrassing

0:35:41.120 --> 0:35:43.880
<v Speaker 2>one for the NFL was Calvin Johnson when he scores

0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:48.239
<v Speaker 2>that touchdown and that opened the door, That opened the

0:35:48.280 --> 0:35:54.360
<v Speaker 2>door to interpretation. Did you complete the process? I wonder

0:35:54.400 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 2>how the NFL would have been affected with today's rules

0:36:00.360 --> 0:36:04.160
<v Speaker 2>catch not a catch, complete the process? All of that?

0:36:05.719 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 2>What would how would they have ruled with Franco Harris

0:36:09.040 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 2>with the immaculate reception? Did it hit the ground? Did

0:36:12.520 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it hit another player? I don't know if the call

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>on the field was do you overturn it? Like down

0:36:21.280 --> 0:36:24.680
<v Speaker 2>through history there have been plays where you know, now

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<v Speaker 2>you look back and you go man would they have

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<v Speaker 2>called that a catch?

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, Well, if that happened now you would know if

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<v Speaker 3>it was a catch or not. There wouldn't really be

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<v Speaker 3>any debate. Like look at the Julian Edelman catch against

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<v Speaker 3>the Falcons. You were able to see because of video

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<v Speaker 3>that that was only like half an inch off the ground.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was a good catch. Yeah, but we still

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if the ball didn't hit another stealer like

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<v Speaker 2>there was the ricochet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but if it was modern day you would probably

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<v Speaker 3>be able to tell that more based on the number

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<v Speaker 3>of cameras and the quality of cameras, there wouldn't be

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<v Speaker 3>as much of a debate.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, even now when we look at it, you still

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<v Speaker 2>can't tell. But that was standard definition. Let's see Grant

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<v Speaker 2>and Charlotte H. Grant, what's on your mind today?

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<v Speaker 12>Well, it's up DP all right. Being a Panthers fan,

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<v Speaker 12>I got two for you. So two thousand and four

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<v Speaker 12>Super Bowl I was eleven. John Casey kicks the ball

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<v Speaker 12>out of bounds on the kickoff against the Patriots, giving

0:37:26.000 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 12>them giving it to him on the forty Adam minitary

0:37:29.280 --> 0:37:31.280
<v Speaker 12>easy field goal for the wind That was a heartbreaker.

0:37:31.719 --> 0:37:34.359
<v Speaker 12>And then cam in twenty sixteen. Not diving on the ball,

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<v Speaker 12>not diving on the fumble. That's become me worthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, Grant. I don't think it would have mattered

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<v Speaker 2>against Denver, but you're right, that ball was just kind

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<v Speaker 2>of there and Cam didn't jump on it. Uh, Sam

0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.719
<v Speaker 2>and Colorado? Hey Sam, Hey.

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<v Speaker 16>Dan, and you guys, second time, long time, long suffering

0:37:59.760 --> 0:38:00.640
<v Speaker 16>bite Kings fan.

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<v Speaker 2>So this one still stings.

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<v Speaker 16>Back in ninety eight, we had Randall Cunningham just winding

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<v Speaker 16>up and chucking it down the field to the life

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<v Speaker 16>of Randy Moss and Chris Carter. We had Johnny Randall

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<v Speaker 16>playing d end, one of the baddest little guys ever

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<v Speaker 16>to play the position. And then we had the infamous

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<v Speaker 16>Gary Anderson had not missed any field goals all year.

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<v Speaker 16>We are about to go to the Super Bowl, and

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<v Speaker 16>Gary Anderson decides to, Yeah, you know what, in the bed.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if he decided to. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it just happened that way, but I get what you're

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<v Speaker 2>you're laying down there, Sam had. Vikings team was good.

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<v Speaker 2>They were really good. Well, they'd lose one game that year.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Pully, that ninety eight Vikings team, Randall Cunningham prime

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<v Speaker 5>Chris Carter, Randy Moss reed the running back Robert Smith

0:39:02.320 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 5>breakout season.

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<v Speaker 10>Wow. Yes, Marv and the Broncos were like, man, we

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<v Speaker 10>got a tough game. Probably going to face the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh we have the Falcons all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Rich in California, Hi Rich.

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<v Speaker 13>Good morning, Dan and crew.

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<v Speaker 17>Thanks so much to take my call.

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<v Speaker 4>Appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 7>YEP.

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<v Speaker 17>I grew up about thirty minutes east of Oakland, Big

0:39:23.680 --> 0:39:26.640
<v Speaker 17>Raider fan and the Heyday Warriors fan. As fan went

0:39:26.719 --> 0:39:30.960
<v Speaker 17>in three state World Series and can't forget the Oakland Seals.

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<v Speaker 4>But the.

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<v Speaker 17>Moment that haunts me is one of the most famous,

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:41.600
<v Speaker 17>the Immaculate Reception, And obviously there isn't great film on that.

0:39:41.880 --> 0:39:45.040
<v Speaker 17>But our daughter and husband live in Pittsburgh, and every

0:39:45.080 --> 0:39:47.680
<v Speaker 17>time I fly in the PITTSFORGH Airport, I have to

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<v Speaker 17>look at that stupid statue of Frank o'herris bent over

0:39:52.560 --> 0:39:54.719
<v Speaker 17>catching the ball. And the problem with the statue is

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<v Speaker 17>the ball was off the ground.

0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It was not off the ground.

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<v Speaker 17>They did it correctly, that ball would be on the

0:39:59.160 --> 0:39:59.960
<v Speaker 17>ground with his hands.

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<v Speaker 2>That stupid statue. This is going to be a haunting

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<v Speaker 2>day for people as they get into that bad mood.

0:40:12.040 --> 0:40:13.840
<v Speaker 2>And their wife goes, why are you in a bad mood?

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<v Speaker 2>Dan Patrick asked me to call in and talk about

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<v Speaker 2>all the painful moments that I've had. Oh, I could

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<v Speaker 2>see where you're coming into the airport and there's Franco.

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<v Speaker 2>But Tony Dungee told me a story. I've mentioned it

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<v Speaker 2>to you before, just to reiterate. When Tony was with

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<v Speaker 2>the Steelers as a defensive back and then as a coach.

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<v Speaker 2>He said that Franco Harris on every play when they practiced,

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<v Speaker 2>ran all the way to the end zone, like if

0:40:43.880 --> 0:40:45.920
<v Speaker 2>you gave him the football and it was, you know,

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.200
<v Speaker 2>going through the line of scrimmage. In his practice, he ran.

0:40:49.680 --> 0:40:53.439
<v Speaker 2>He always ran. He never quit on a play. Well,

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:58.160
<v Speaker 2>because of that, Franco doesn't quit on that play. The

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<v Speaker 2>vault wasn't supposed to go to him. Ricochet and then

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<v Speaker 2>it goes to Franco and he runs in for the touchdown.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Malcolm Butler did what Bill Belichick told him

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<v Speaker 2>to do in practice. When you see this go right

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<v Speaker 2>towards the ball, right towards the receiver, and he came

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<v Speaker 2>up with perhaps the biggest play in the history of

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<v Speaker 2>the Super Bowl. Reggie Miller will join us. What's next

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<v Speaker 2>for Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors. More of

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<v Speaker 2>your phone calls as well more of your misery eight

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<v Speaker 2>seven seven three DP show Fritzy Seat and Marv Paul

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<v Speaker 2>Years truly back after this