1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: You are listening to The Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 1: Sports Radio Our two. 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 2: On this Wednesday, Dan and the Dan Nets Dan Patrick Show. 4 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: We'll talk some football with Jason Garrett from Football Night 5 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:16,000 Speaker 2: in America and how much pressure are these coaching candidates 6 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: going to face going into some of these jobs eight 7 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:21,840 Speaker 2: seven to seven to three. DP Show Email address Dpadanpatrick 8 00:00:21,880 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 2: dot Com, Twitter handle a DP show. Good morning. I 9 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 2: was watching on Peacock and listening on our radio affiliates 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 2: around the country. Stat of the Day brought to you 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 2: by Patini America, the official trading cards for The Dan 12 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Poll question more stats of the Day coming up. 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller will join us in the final hour of 14 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 2: the program. We stumbled upon a topic a question for 15 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 2: you the audience in the first hour because Buffalo Bill's 16 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: fans are not going to let go of that interception, 17 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 2: and instead of blaming who you need to blame, and 18 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 2: that's Josh Allen, You're going to blame the official. The 19 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 2: more I see it, the more I hear from former players, 20 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 2: certainly defensive backs and wide receivers, they made the right call. 21 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 2: Now in the moment, I didn't think they did, and 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: I didn't think once they called it an interception, I thought, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: there's no way they'll be able to overturn this. And 24 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: if you had called it the other way, you wouldn't 25 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 2: have been able to overturn it. I don't think if 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 2: you looked at it again, but to say we're going 27 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 2: to hold that official accountable, that's why we didn't advance, 28 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 2: you'd be incorrect with that, and you would be holding 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 2: on to something that's really not fair to the totality 30 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 2: of the way your team played. You should have won 31 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: the game. You should have won the game. Yeah, the 32 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 2: best player on the field and he didn't play well. 33 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 2: Seaton Poll question results from hour one and then we'll 34 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 2: look ahead for hour two. 35 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 3: Let's see we have up there. Would you rather be 36 00:01:56,600 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 3: the head coach of the Cleveland Browns or an offensive 37 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 3: coordinator somewhere else? That's holding steady at about eighty two 38 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 3: percent of the audience would rather be an offensive coordinator somewhere. 39 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:09,519 Speaker 4: Else, all right? 40 00:02:09,639 --> 00:02:13,360 Speaker 2: In fairness to what we're talking about, Mike McDaniel wasn't 41 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 2: offered the head coaching job in Cleveland. He took his 42 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,400 Speaker 2: name out of the running, and now he's expected to 43 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 2: be the offensive coordinator with the churchers. 44 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: Some people saying that's not fair because, say, a job 45 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 3: like the Chargers or the Lions are different types of 46 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:31,040 Speaker 3: jobs than the offensive coordinator of I don't know, a 47 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: not good. 48 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:35,360 Speaker 2: Team like the Titans. Perhaps, Okay, yeah, yeah, Paul, Do you. 49 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 5: Want to play the game if all NFL jobs were 50 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: open today for the same pay, which is the last 51 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:45,360 Speaker 5: one you'd take? Because it feels like everyone's putting the 52 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 5: Browns in that list? 53 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 2: Yes? 54 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 5: Is there a worse situation? 55 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 2: I think Tennessee is promising, But once again, it goes 56 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: back to can you trust ownership in the front office. 57 00:02:55,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 2: I mean, you're bringing in Robert Salah Okay, who's your 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 2: offensive coordinator? To help Cam more? But I do think 59 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 2: you got a lot of cap space there. I would 60 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,320 Speaker 2: say that, you know, there's promise there. I think there's 61 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: promise in Cleveland. But you got to get a quarterback 62 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 2: because I don't think you have a starting quarterback in 63 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 2: the building. You've got a pretty good defense, you got 64 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,079 Speaker 2: the defensive player of the year, the defensive rookie of 65 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:27,560 Speaker 2: the year. Okay, but how are your skilled position players? 66 00:03:28,200 --> 00:03:30,600 Speaker 2: You know, now you're in a division that feels like 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: it's in a state of flux. Arizona is the place 68 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,960 Speaker 2: I don't want to go unless I retire. Then I'd 69 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 2: be fine going there, But if I'm going to coach now, 70 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 2: they lost like fourteen or their last fifteen. The Raiders situation, 71 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:52,280 Speaker 2: I got to lean on Brady that Brady will get 72 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 2: it right. And Brady was at the National title game, 73 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 2: and from what I was told, coaching candidates were encouraged 74 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 2: to fly there so they could do all their meetings there. 75 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 2: Jets situation. I don't like that either. It's kind of 76 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: the same bottom feeders, you know. That's why they're always 77 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 2: in the topic, you know, conversation with the draft. 78 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 5: Top five, Yeah, Paul, going back to the Browns, they 79 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 5: were five and twelve and they were outscored by one 80 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 5: hundred points this weekend. All right, last year they did 81 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,480 Speaker 5: have a top fifteen defense. For example, the Jets were 82 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:32,240 Speaker 5: outscored by two hundred and three points, Raiders by one 83 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 5: ninety one, They Arazon a Cardo by one thirty three. 84 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:37,720 Speaker 5: Those are the futile teams. 85 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 2: Some phone calls here with these bad moments that you 86 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: get to revisit here on the program, Chris in Minnesota, 87 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 2: which the moment you can't move on from. 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 6: Thanks Dan, first time, long time. First of us want 89 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,640 Speaker 6: to thank you Dan for all the years in case 90 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 6: I never get to call you again, and thank you 91 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 6: and hopefully you enjoy your retirement in two years. For 92 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 6: me as a Raiders fan, it's the Tuck rule, you know, 93 00:05:03,000 --> 00:05:04,839 Speaker 6: the tuck rull game. I think goes with what the 94 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 6: divisional playoff. I can't remember the year, but man, that 95 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 6: for that rule to now be nonexistent and now here 96 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 6: it's it was so crucial to that Raiders team. And 97 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 6: you know, obviously the legend of Tom Brady was that 98 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,120 Speaker 6: was a big stepping. 99 00:05:22,800 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 4: Stone for him to win that year. 100 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:26,960 Speaker 6: But then that play just guts me because that ball 101 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,640 Speaker 6: is pointed right down on the bottom of the ground. 102 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 7: When he gets sacked. 103 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:34,000 Speaker 6: So I don't understand, ever, I will ever understand how 104 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 6: that's not a or how that's a incompletion. 105 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, when a game has a name a nickname attached 106 00:05:41,920 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 2: to it, you know that's one that's not going away 107 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:48,919 Speaker 2: anytime soon. Uh. Mark in Charleston, Him, Mark, what's on 108 00:05:48,960 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: your mind? 109 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 8: Hey? 110 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 9: Dan, appreciate it. 111 00:05:51,440 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 7: Yep. 112 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 9: First, all our longtime listener, I would just like to 113 00:05:54,680 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 9: point out as a fan base. I'll set the team. 114 00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 9: It's Super Bowl forty nine. You're a Seahawk fan. You're 115 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 9: watching your team on the goal line, ready to put 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 9: a dagger in the Patriots. You got Beast mode sitting 117 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,160 Speaker 9: right there, waiting to just steamroll anybody in front of you. 118 00:06:11,920 --> 00:06:14,920 Speaker 9: And what does Pete Carroll do. As smart as a 119 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,800 Speaker 9: coach as he is, he dials up this bush league 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:23,280 Speaker 9: slamp pass and it goes right into the sturdy hands 121 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 9: of a rookie Malcolm Butler at the time. And then, 122 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 9: of course Brady does his best Tom Brady impression, takes 123 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 9: down the field, scores a game winner for them. Good night, 124 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 9: game over, drive home safely. 125 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 2: Wait, I thought after Malcolm Butler had the interception, they 126 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 2: just ran out, ran out the clock. They didn't. Tom 127 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:45,240 Speaker 2: didn't take him down for a touchdown. 128 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 9: Tom prior to that, had taken him down and he. 129 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: Was doing okay, oh yeah, okay, yeah. Because I'm in 130 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 2: the end zone, I'm standing underneath the goalpost, and it's 131 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 2: one of those I'll I'll never forget watching that unfold 132 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 2: because I thought, okay, they either give it to Marshawn 133 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 2: Lynch or you have a run pass option with Russell Wilson. 134 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: Therefore he can throw the ball away, maybe he runs 135 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 2: it in for a touchdown. I did not think that 136 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 2: throwing the ball over the middle, because when he did it, 137 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: I went, oh, bleep because it was so tight the 138 00:07:23,680 --> 00:07:30,080 Speaker 2: traffic in there. But Malcolm Butler, what an unbelievable play 139 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: might be the greatest play in Super Bowl history? Isn't it? 140 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 2: Could it be a loss became a win? Yes? And 141 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: for what Brady's resume is and Belichick's resume, what was 142 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: attached to that? Yes, Marvin, you. 143 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 10: Hit it on the head. That one play differentiates whether 144 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,840 Speaker 10: Russell Wilson, Richard Sherman, Pete Carroll gets into the Hall 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 10: of Fame or not. 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kevin in Cleveland, Hi, Kevin A. 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 7: DP Dannetz five seven. And according to WebMD, morbidly obese. 148 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 7: You may be the only one amongst the guys that 149 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 7: remember this. But red right eighty eight January fourth, nineteen 150 00:08:13,640 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 7: eighty one, Raiders Browns. I was eighteen years old at 151 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 7: the time I saw it and wept in front of 152 00:08:21,600 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 7: the TV. And is it unhealthy? Just last question? Is 153 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 7: it unhealthy that every January fourth since then I walk 154 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 7: around with a not in my stomach my wife. Yes, 155 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 7: I think it's justified. 156 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 2: Let describe the play to the audience. 157 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 7: Okay, the play was. It was thirteen seconds left, I believe, 158 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:42,959 Speaker 7: and the Browns had a choice. It was thirty seven 159 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:44,680 Speaker 7: below zero. The Browns had a choice to kick a 160 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 7: field goal and win the game or go for a touchdown. 161 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 7: And Sam Retigliano, the coach at the time, decided this 162 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 7: play and Brian Site threw it and it was an 163 00:08:55,240 --> 00:09:00,839 Speaker 7: interception game over. It was I don't know if you 164 00:09:00,880 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 7: could you could hear a pin drop in the stadium. 165 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:05,439 Speaker 2: Well happen, and you know, you could have picked the 166 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:11,320 Speaker 2: Ernest Biner fumble, John Elways drive was a series of 167 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 2: plays there, but Ernest Byner the fumble. Yeah, Brian Site 168 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Site might have been MVP that year as well. Uh, 169 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: Brian in Missouri. Hey Brian, Hey, good morning Dan. 170 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 8: First of all, let me say that the fact that 171 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 8: you guys don't have a sports that me should be 172 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 8: investigated by I don't know, Congress. 173 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 2: Congress has more important things. Not really, not really, it's criminal, 174 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: Thank you, Brian, thank you. 175 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:44,120 Speaker 8: My play is the twenty eighteen AFC Championship game when 176 00:09:44,200 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 8: freaking d Ford lines up off sides, the Chiefs intercept Brady. 177 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 8: They are going to go to the super Bowl. It's 178 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes's first year as a starter. He's thrown for 179 00:09:56,720 --> 00:10:01,200 Speaker 8: over five thousand yards passing and I'm not mistaken fifty 180 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 8: touchdowns and d Ford can't line up. 181 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you made up for that with some super bowls, yes, Paulie. 182 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 5: But if they don't win a bunch of Super Bowls 183 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 5: after that, that play has a lot more legendary status. 184 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 5: I'm looking at it right now. D Ford's a foot 185 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 5: over the line. 186 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 2: Of scrimmage, Mike Jones tackling Kevin Dyson at the one 187 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 2: yard line. Yeah, Paulie. 188 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 5: Now, I just looked at that play when Mike Jones 189 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 5: made that tackle on Dyson. If they score and go 190 00:10:33,080 --> 00:10:35,440 Speaker 5: for one, obviously it goes to overtime. So it's not 191 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 5: a loss different than Malcolm. 192 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:40,959 Speaker 2: Butler, Jesse and Kansas. I like how we're tapping into 193 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,320 Speaker 2: people's misery. We're trying to make Buffalo Bill's fans feel 194 00:10:44,360 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: a little bit better today. What do you have for me, 195 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: jess Hey. 196 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 11: Third time, A long time, young blooded, old school I've 197 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 11: got too damn but real fast. If I can say, 198 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 11: I called in last year at the dress to tell 199 00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 11: you guys about my sons in the nick you and 200 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 11: I might need to help me in this case. 201 00:11:06,840 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: But he's doing great. 202 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,240 Speaker 12: He's almost one years old. 203 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 11: He has a cerful palsy diagnosis. He thought it affective 204 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 11: most kids, and he's super happy, get and curious. But 205 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 11: I didn't get to say thank you to you guys, 206 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 11: to you the day nets the back room guys, Stephen 207 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 11: Wilson Jr. The song twisted, you know really helped me out. 208 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 11: You guys, we didn't have a lot of time, and 209 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 11: you know, you know what to do for people, but 210 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:33,319 Speaker 11: just wanted you know, you have an audience of people. 211 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 11: I'm not in a hospital bed every day, but I'm 212 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 11: trauma bound here show three hours a day because I 213 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:40,080 Speaker 11: need you guys to help me get through my life. 214 00:11:40,120 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 11: So I just wanted to say that. 215 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 2: Thank you guys, Thank you, thank you, Jesse, thank you, 216 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: Curtis and Illinoishi Curtis ADP. 217 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 13: The game that lives just rent free in my head 218 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 13: still to this day is the twenty twelve sail Mary 219 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 13: again still is living in Illinois. Being a Packers fan 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 13: isn't bad enough this time of year, but just reliving 221 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 13: that one, and I still hate Russell Wilson in the 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 13: Seahawks word because it's got to be the worst officiated 223 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 13: play in NFL history. 224 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,080 Speaker 2: There's a list of those plays. But thank you, Curtis. 225 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:18,880 Speaker 7: Seeen. 226 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:20,840 Speaker 2: Did we come up with the pole question for hour two? 227 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: Well, I've been trying to wait to see how this 228 00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:26,880 Speaker 3: topic shakes out, to see if one presents itself about 229 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 3: worst calls or worst plays, most painful plays, etc. We 230 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 3: do have one here from Marvin about the biggest baseball 231 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 3: Hall of Fame snub Dale Murphy, Don Mattingley or Steve 232 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,679 Speaker 3: Garvey's fun Okay, I like that. We'll throw that one 233 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:41,240 Speaker 3: up there, all. 234 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, Murph was he was so close. It felt 235 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: like two MVPs didn't win anything except for one of 236 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: the nicest people I've ever met my life. Went from 237 00:12:55,320 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 2: being a catcher to a center fielder. But he's in 238 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: the Hall of good, very good. He's in the Hall 239 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:09,439 Speaker 2: of very Good. Mattingly. Mattingly was like two years two 240 00:13:09,559 --> 00:13:11,640 Speaker 2: good years away, I feel like, and if he won 241 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:15,320 Speaker 2: a World Series like they did that next year, he's 242 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:18,720 Speaker 2: probably in the Hall of Fame. And Garby to me, 243 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: is a Hall of Famer. When you say the name, 244 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 2: I go, yeah, okay, yeah, hall of Famer, yeah, Mark, Yeah. 245 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 10: I think Don Matteleie being a great player and not 246 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 10: winning with the Yankees definitely hurts the resume and him 247 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 10: not playing a really long time and it's not like 248 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 10: he played for twenty years. His great years are probably ten. 249 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 2: I think Mattingly was a better player than Kirby Pucket, 250 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:44,600 Speaker 2: but Kirby was so instrumental in the Twins winning couple 251 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 2: of World Series titles, and he also had the injury 252 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 2: as well. Because I think you have to play a 253 00:13:50,440 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 2: minimum of ten years. Is that what it is? But yeah, 254 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: it's tricky with the Hall of Fame because we tend 255 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 2: to throw I don't know, people's names are AT's what 256 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: they did, what they didn't do. I mean, it's their life. 257 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 2: I mean it's the most important thing in their in 258 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: their life or at least their career, the Hall of Fame, 259 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: and you know, we tend to kind of go, oh, 260 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 2: this and that and what did he do? And then 261 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 2: you know postseason and you know they're just there's a 262 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: lot of things involved, and then of course you throw 263 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:26,560 Speaker 2: in the steroids because you know that's tricky. But I 264 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 2: do think somewhere down the road a whole new wave 265 00:14:30,880 --> 00:14:36,080 Speaker 2: of younger writers will look at steroids differently. I do 266 00:14:36,120 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 2: think that it's it's the era, the era that these 267 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: guys were in, and and and if if you want 268 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: to put Bonds in and you know, we we bring 269 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,240 Speaker 2: this up every year at this time or a Rod 270 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: just put it on their plaque, put put something that 271 00:14:54,400 --> 00:15:00,280 Speaker 2: denotes what happened, you know. But Bonds was never like 272 00:15:00,320 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 2: that's trickier. Hey Rodd, you know they popped him twice. 273 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: I guess he shouldn't be involved in baseball at all. 274 00:15:09,320 --> 00:15:13,080 Speaker 2: Now he's one of the faces of baseball. Yes, Mark 275 00:15:14,320 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 2: Steve Garvey was before my time. But was there a 276 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,440 Speaker 2: signature moment, Like I know he had a great playoff 277 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 2: run as far as batting average, but does he have 278 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 2: that signature home run a lah David Ortiz where you 279 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:27,440 Speaker 2: can point to something that he did in the postseason. No, 280 00:15:28,240 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: he played in one World Series, but he was very 281 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 2: good in the postseason. I mean he had numbers and 282 00:15:36,760 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: National leagu Championship Series. Was he two World Series or one? One? 283 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 14: Dan? 284 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 5: He hit three twenty five in that World Series? 285 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:48,600 Speaker 2: Okay? Yeah, And you know with my source saying, Hey, Garvey, 286 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 2: whenever his name comes up, the voters, writers tend to 287 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: chop him up, like you know, it's Benny Hannah with 288 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 2: his defense. Well, he did win four Gold Gloves. I 289 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 2: don't know, seems like that better than average. It's weird 290 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 2: how we use somebody's defensive abilities or liabilities. I've heard many, many, 291 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 2: many times that the joker can't play defense, Steph Curry 292 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 2: can't play defense. I don't know if Shay Gilgess Alexander 293 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 2: can play defense. I've never heard somebody say, man, he 294 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 2: can play defense. It's he gets a lot of free 295 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:29,359 Speaker 2: throws and you'll be the MVP again this year. Yes, pulling. 296 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 5: It is frustrating also when certain players like a Steve 297 00:16:33,480 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 5: Garvey or whoever you want to talk about, Dale Murphy, 298 00:16:36,400 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 5: they're in their late seventies and you want to do 299 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 5: it now. You want to let them enjoy it now, 300 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 5: because where would be Where would the outrage be if 301 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 5: Steve Garvey got into the Hall of Fame. 302 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 2: Not No, there wouldn't be none. Yeah, yeah, it does feel. 303 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: Weird to hold the defensive abilities of a baseball player 304 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: against them when they have a position called designated hitter. 305 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:03,320 Speaker 2: They don't have a designated Yeah, but I remember Frank 306 00:17:03,360 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: Thomas won the MVP, and you know people are like, 307 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: not a very good defender, a pretty good at offense. 308 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 2: I mean, Rafael pal Merrow won a Gold Glove and 309 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 2: I think he played less than ten games at first base, Like, 310 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: how is that possible? Must have been ten great games, 311 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 2: lights out. It must have been the most unbelievable performance there. 312 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 2: So when you get these awards, I don't know what 313 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 2: nobody cares about gold Glove now. Back back in the sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, 314 00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 2: it felt like it was important, But I don't think 315 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 2: it is now. 316 00:17:38,480 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 10: Yes, Marv, is it because baseball is out of the 317 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 10: national consciousness? 318 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 2: Well, we look at baseball as you either strike somebody 319 00:17:45,880 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: out or you hit a home run. I don't think 320 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 2: we look at it as boy, they got a great 321 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:51,840 Speaker 2: defensive team. 322 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,160 Speaker 10: So what have Ozzie Smith had been a big star 323 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 10: like he was in the eighties today's game? 324 00:17:56,800 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 2: No, No, I don't think So let me take a break. 325 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, Well, Jonas, we'll talk to some of these 326 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,120 Speaker 2: coaching vacancies. 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All you gotta do search Covino and Rich 339 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 15: FSR on YouTube. Again, go to YouTube search Covino and 340 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 15: Rich FSR. Check us out on YouTube, subscribe, hit that 341 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 15: thumbs up icon comment away. 342 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America's studio analyst, former 343 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 2: Cowboys head coach back on the program. We were just 344 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 2: talking about painful moments, you know, Buffalo Bill's fans having 345 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: a hard time getting over that interception, and you were 346 00:19:06,280 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 2: the coach of the Cowboys for the des Bryant play. 347 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:12,919 Speaker 2: I was is that your toughest play? That like that 348 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,520 Speaker 2: still stays with you of all the plays when you 349 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 2: were coaching or a player. 350 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 4: You know, I would say two plays. 351 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 14: The des Bryant play would be one, and then the 352 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:23,159 Speaker 14: other play was a couple of years later in the 353 00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 14: Divisional Ral when when Aaron Rodgers rolled left and made 354 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 14: that amazing throw. So, yeah, we had we had a 355 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 14: couple of interesting ones at the end of games, you know, 356 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 14: with a chance to go to the NFC Championship game 357 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 14: and they go right to the end of the end 358 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 14: of the game against the Packers. 359 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 4: And Aaron Rodgers. 360 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,639 Speaker 2: But the des Bryant call. What were you told in 361 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 2: the moment and were you okay with what they told 362 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: you about that non touchdown? 363 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 14: Well, uh, I feel like I'm an expert in this 364 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 14: area because I've talked about this a lot with a 365 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:54,600 Speaker 14: lot of people through the years. 366 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:56,440 Speaker 4: Uh I was. 367 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 14: I was bothered by the call for a couple of 368 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,920 Speaker 14: different reasons. The number of times I had heard prior 369 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 14: to that play. 370 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 4: You know, how long do you need to catch the ball? 371 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 14: And there was always this idea of, hey, all you 372 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:15,920 Speaker 14: need is time enough to make a football move. And 373 00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 14: the officials who would tell me this, they would say, hey, 374 00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 14: he doesn't have to make a football move. It's just 375 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 14: time enough to make a football move. And if you 376 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 14: look at the Dead Briant play. You know, he catches 377 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 14: the ball just outside the five yard line. It was 378 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 14: one of the most amazing catches I believe in the 379 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 14: history of football. He catches it and he switches hands 380 00:20:39,720 --> 00:20:42,800 Speaker 14: with it. He gets one foot down, two foot down. 381 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 14: The third he lunges, so he's switched hands. He's gotten 382 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,640 Speaker 14: the feet down. Lunge is a football move. He has 383 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 14: the ball here, he extends it. These are all football 384 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 14: moves over the course of five yards. So he's essentially 385 00:20:56,359 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 14: running with the ball to get himself down there to 386 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 14: make that extension. And you know, for them to come 387 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 14: back and say he needs to survive the ground, this 388 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 14: thing that seemed to trump everything else. You know, I'm like, 389 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 14: how many times have I heard from you guys? He 390 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 14: doesn't even have to make a football move, He just 391 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,199 Speaker 14: needs time enough. And literally he made seven football moves 392 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,760 Speaker 14: over the course of five yards. And then the other 393 00:21:21,840 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 14: part of it is it was ruled to catch on 394 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:26,240 Speaker 14: the field by a guy who was standing right there. 395 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 14: And so for them to come into it afterwards and say, 396 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:33,240 Speaker 14: you know, it's indisputable that this is not a catch, 397 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 14: it was really a. 398 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 4: Hard thing for me to comprehend. 399 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 14: And if you remember after that, it started with Calvin 400 00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,439 Speaker 14: Johnson and then it was the des play, and then 401 00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 14: for about three or four years after that, every catch 402 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 14: or non catch was viewed through that same prism, and 403 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 14: they completely screwed up. 404 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:51,159 Speaker 4: What a catch was. 405 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:53,960 Speaker 14: I mean, guys are running down the field stumbling, and 406 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,000 Speaker 14: they have it for ten yards, but he falls down 407 00:21:56,200 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 14: and all of a sudden, that's not a catch. And 408 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 14: so a little bit like the tuck rule, took him 409 00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 14: about five years to quietly try to change it. But 410 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 14: I think we're kind of back to that same place, 411 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 14: and I think it's frustrating for a lot of people. 412 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 2: What did you think in the moment of the interception 413 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 2: in the Broncos Bills game. 414 00:22:15,520 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: I still think it's a catch. 415 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:21,119 Speaker 14: I do you know, a hundred years ago in football 416 00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 14: you had to tackle a guy and lay on top 417 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,919 Speaker 14: of him and keep him down. If you look at 418 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 14: the old films, they tackle him and the guy keeps 419 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 14: getting back up. Right, that's rugby. We're not playing rugby, right, 420 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 14: We're playing football. So for him to make that catch, 421 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 14: secure the ball, go to the ground, be touched, and 422 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 14: then have the defender rip the ball out when they're 423 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,280 Speaker 14: on the ground, what are we doing? 424 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 4: You know, it's a catch. 425 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,359 Speaker 2: I thought it was a catch in the moment, and 426 00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:52,800 Speaker 2: the more I looked at it, the more it felt 427 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: like the defender was getting his hands on the ball 428 00:22:55,119 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: before they hit the ground. I was, first of all, 429 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 2: I was surprised that they called it in interception, and 430 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,120 Speaker 2: I knew they weren't going to overturn it. If they 431 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,119 Speaker 2: called her to catch, I don't think they would have 432 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: overturned it either. 433 00:23:08,480 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 14: Yeah, and again that's what takes me back to the 434 00:23:11,040 --> 00:23:14,520 Speaker 14: des Brian play. It was called a catch, and to 435 00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 14: say indiscantable evidence overturns it. You know, I have a 436 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:23,280 Speaker 14: regret about that play. Dan afterwards in the game, you know, 437 00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,960 Speaker 14: it was a head coach, you're always preaching no excuses, 438 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 14: and you know I talked to our guys about, Hey, 439 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 14: that was one play. We had fifty six minutes before, 440 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,439 Speaker 14: We had four minutes afterwards to win that game. So 441 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 14: we're not gonna We're not going to rely on officials 442 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,280 Speaker 14: to make the right calls. It's our job as players 443 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 14: and coaches. Having said that, something I wish I should 444 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:47,160 Speaker 14: have said was in the moment, I get all that 445 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 14: there's no excuses. 446 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 4: We had our opportunities. 447 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:52,959 Speaker 14: But Tony Rollman made an amazing throw and Dez Bryant 448 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 14: made one of the greatest catches in the history of 449 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:57,719 Speaker 14: the National Football League. And for me as a coach, 450 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,360 Speaker 14: as a former player, and as a fan of footbootball, 451 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 14: this play should have been in the lore of Bradshaw 452 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,200 Speaker 14: to Swan over Mark Washington and the Super Bowl falling 453 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 14: stumbling down. There should have been Roger staullback to Butch Johnson, 454 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 14: all of those amazing plays in the history of the game. 455 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 4: And somehow it got caught up and officiating. 456 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 14: And I thought about this the other day because coming 457 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 14: out of that game, what did we talk about? We 458 00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:27,399 Speaker 14: talked about a catcher, no catch or interception, and then 459 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 14: we talked about the past interferences on the following drive. Right, 460 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 14: They let the players play a certain way the whole game, 461 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,639 Speaker 14: and then all of a sudden, we're calling these plays 462 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 14: at the end. 463 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 4: And I have nothing against Denver. 464 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,560 Speaker 14: They did a fantastic job all year long, but I 465 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 14: hate as a fan of football that officiating in these 466 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:46,919 Speaker 14: big games is what the conversation is. 467 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: What was it like to interview for the Tennessee John. 468 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 14: A great experience, really like Mike Organzi their general manager, 469 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 14: Dave Zigglers their assistant general manager, Reggie McKenzie's there, Chat Brinker, 470 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:03,919 Speaker 14: really good guys. You know, I went down there. The 471 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 14: interview was supposed to be like I think from nine 472 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,919 Speaker 14: to twelve. We went from about nine to fifteen to 473 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 14: close to three o'clock, so, you know, plenty of time 474 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 14: to talk about football and a vision. 475 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 4: For the team. 476 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 2: But are you thinking the long team the longer it 477 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 2: goes that, Like, you know, if it's only going to 478 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:24,680 Speaker 2: go three hours and now it goes close to six 479 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,879 Speaker 2: hours in your mind, are you going you call your 480 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:29,439 Speaker 2: wife and you say, man, I killed it. 481 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 14: You know, no, not so much that More than just 482 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 14: I love talking football, and I really like the guys 483 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 14: they put together there, some former general managers coming together, 484 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 14: and I think they have shared values and how to 485 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,679 Speaker 14: build the team in a lot of ways. There's a 486 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:49,879 Speaker 14: blank canvas down there, a really good young quarterback, an 487 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 14: elite defensive player playing defensive line for him. So he's awesome, 488 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 14: and it was it was just fun talking ball and 489 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 14: sharing your vision for what the team can be, and 490 00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 14: a really good experience. 491 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 2: Talking to Jason Garrett NBC Football Night in America studio analyst. 492 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 2: If you're coaching the Broncos, how do you use Jared 493 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,879 Speaker 2: Stidham And are you using him in a way that 494 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,600 Speaker 2: you are not wouldn't be using bow knicks, you know. 495 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:19,680 Speaker 14: I think Sean will do a great job with him. 496 00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,400 Speaker 14: I played for Sean for three years. I think one 497 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 14: of his great traits is creating a comfortable environment for quarterbacks, 498 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 14: and I. 499 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 4: Think he'll do that. 500 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:31,119 Speaker 14: I think Stidham's skill set is actually pretty similar to 501 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,880 Speaker 14: bo Knix's. They both do a good job with movement plays, 502 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 14: play action type stuff. 503 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 4: Certainly capable for throwing the ball from the pocket. 504 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 16: You know. 505 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 14: The concern is Jared Stidham has started four games in 506 00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:46,760 Speaker 14: the NFL, so he does not have that much experience. 507 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 14: So even though he's played in the NFL for a while, 508 00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 14: he hasn't taken these game snaps, certainly not in the 509 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:56,640 Speaker 14: AFC Championship game. So I think Sean will have that 510 00:26:57,080 --> 00:26:59,720 Speaker 14: in the forefront of his mind. He'll get them comfortable 511 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:04,840 Speaker 14: in the game. Run the ball, movement plays, screens, those 512 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,159 Speaker 14: kinds of things, get them some completion. 513 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,199 Speaker 4: You know, the guys at NBC hear me say this 514 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:09,800 Speaker 4: all the time. 515 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:12,840 Speaker 14: Get them five completions before he even knows he's out there, 516 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:16,400 Speaker 14: you know. And I think that's a big thing. As 517 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,520 Speaker 14: a coordinator, that's always what you're trying to do for 518 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:22,159 Speaker 14: your quarterbacks, certainly in big moments like this. So I 519 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 14: think their skill sets are the same. I don't think 520 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 14: they'll have to change that much. But I think Sean 521 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 14: will be mindful of how much he hasn't played. I 522 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 14: think he'll try to get them comfortable. 523 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,840 Speaker 2: I'm wondering about these coaching vacancies, the pressure. I mean, 524 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 2: normally you don't have, you know, playoff teams, changing coaches. 525 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: You go into Buffalo, you're expected to go to the 526 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:46,640 Speaker 2: AFC title game. I'm guessing you go to Baltimore, you're 527 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: expected to go to the AFC title game. You go 528 00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: into Pittsburgh, you're expected to make the playoffs. This is 529 00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 2: in Arizona. This isn't Tennessee. This is in Cleveland. I 530 00:27:56,040 --> 00:28:00,879 Speaker 2: can't remember where you had vacancies where the pressure was this, 531 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 2: you know, ratcheted this high. 532 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no doubt. 533 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,000 Speaker 14: And those are really good coaches who had coached for 534 00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 14: a long time and build amazing programs and to replace 535 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 14: those guys. Uh, and then you know, like you said, 536 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,160 Speaker 14: ratchet it up, take it to the next level. Those 537 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 14: are not easy things to do. I do think they're 538 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 14: really good organizations. Steelers is a great organization, Raven's great organization, 539 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 14: So Buffalo really good organization. So I do think that 540 00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,560 Speaker 14: they have some things in place there that you like 541 00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 14: in all those spots. There's no question about that for me. 542 00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 14: You know. The other thing, you know, some of those 543 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 14: teams that have not been as good. You know, all 544 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 14: of a sudden, you're looking at what Mike Vrabel did 545 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 14: in New England. Hey they won four they won four 546 00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 14: games last year and then the AFC Championship game. So 547 00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 14: all of a sudden, there's an expectation there that you're 548 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 14: supposed to flip it around in year one, and I 549 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 14: think ownership in those spots needs to be careful. I 550 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 14: think those are exceptions go back in the history of football. 551 00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 14: It's hard to turn things around. And then even if 552 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 14: you look at a team like Washington, dan Quinn did 553 00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 14: such an amazing job in year one and now that 554 00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:13,040 Speaker 14: they've kind of fallen back to the mean, if you will, 555 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 14: So I think you want to build it the right 556 00:29:16,360 --> 00:29:19,240 Speaker 14: way regards of where you're coming from, and if you 557 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 14: go into those places, you got to be careful about 558 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 14: trying to copy the guy who was there before. You 559 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 14: better be yourself. I think a lot of mistakes are 560 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 14: made when guys try to copy what's been there. Be 561 00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 14: yourself and get yourself going. 562 00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: It feels like we're not going to give Seattle credit 563 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 2: until we see Seattle winning a super Bowl. Like it 564 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,640 Speaker 2: just felt like regular season, Okay, I mean toughest division, 565 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 2: and it almost feels like people are rooting for the 566 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 2: Rams because the Rams look like, you know, hey, I 567 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: got Stafford there, and I got Pookainakua and Sean McVay. Like, 568 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 2: Seattle's just played great football. I just don't know if 569 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:01,120 Speaker 2: we've acknowledged the great football that they played from start 570 00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 2: to finish. 571 00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, Seattle was really really good. Middle of the year. 572 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 14: I went out there and I interviewed Sam Darnold and 573 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 14: got a chance to spend the day there watch practice, 574 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 14: be around the meetings and walk throughs and stuff, and 575 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 14: I just love I just love everything about their team. 576 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 14: I think they've built it the right way again, created 577 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 14: a great environment for their quarterback. Jsn is an elite 578 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 14: player on offense. But for me, you know what separates 579 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 14: them as their defense on all three levels. These guys 580 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:33,720 Speaker 14: are really really good, and I think they're head coach 581 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 14: and defensive genius. Mike McDonald is fantastic, and you know, 582 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,400 Speaker 14: I have a good story about him. I've gotten to 583 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 14: know him a little bit over the last couple of years. 584 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: And so we're. 585 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 14: Talking about, you know, building, you know, everyone talks about 586 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,600 Speaker 14: building culture and all of that. I said, you've done 587 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 14: an amazing job here And I said, you know, what 588 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,600 Speaker 14: have you done? 589 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 4: And he was so honest and humble. He said, last 590 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 4: year I had no idea. 591 00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:57,240 Speaker 2: What I was doing. 592 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 4: He said, I have no idea. You kind of dive 593 00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 4: into it and you just are reeling. 594 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 14: But he said, after after the season, he got a 595 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 14: chance to sit down and really think about what you 596 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,200 Speaker 14: want to build here. And you know, Pete Carroll had 597 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 14: done a great job building a certain culture there and 598 00:31:12,160 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 14: and and I asked him, I said, hey, is this 599 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 14: just like you, you know, trying to replicate what happened 600 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 14: in Baltimore, that that's your experience. And he said, yeah, 601 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 14: in some ways, because I was there for so long. 602 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:26,320 Speaker 14: But he said, I also pulled back and said, you know, 603 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:29,440 Speaker 14: this has to be our culture in the environment we create. 604 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 14: So keeping some of the good stuff from Pete Carroll absolutely, 605 00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:35,320 Speaker 14: some of the stuff from the Ravens absolutely, some of 606 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 14: the stuff from our players and coaches, things that they 607 00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 14: think are important. 608 00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 4: Absolutely, And then at the end of it, he says, 609 00:31:41,480 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 4: you know, if. 610 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 14: The coach was all about my personality, we'd be really boring. 611 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 4: So we don't. We don't want to be that, you know. 612 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,080 Speaker 14: And so to me, he's so he's so good at 613 00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 14: what he does, but he's so humble, and I think 614 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 14: what he's created there and what they've created there, John 615 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 14: Schneider a great job, but the person well, I love 616 00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 14: their team. 617 00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:04,920 Speaker 2: Jace, good to talk to you again, Thanks for joining us. 618 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, enjoy the game this weekend. 619 00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:12,320 Speaker 2: That's Jason Garrett, NBC Football Night in America studio analyst. Well, 620 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 2: they may have taken on Mike McDonald's personality. They're kind 621 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: of boring, but they're boringly great. I think any of 622 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 2: these other teams would say, we'll take on that personality. 623 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: We're fine with that. We'll take a break. More of 624 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,640 Speaker 2: your phone calls, more of your misery. We're back after this. 625 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 626 00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,280 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio 627 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,520 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 628 00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: listen live. 629 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,120 Speaker 2: Reggie Miller in a half hour from now. Golden State 630 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:46,719 Speaker 2: Warriors without Jimmy Butler the rest of the season, and 631 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 2: you start to wonder, are the Warriors kind of morphing 632 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 2: into the Lakers the last couple of years with Kobe Bryant, 633 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 2: where it was we're not going to be threatening, but 634 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: come on out and watch Kobe end his career. Steph 635 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 2: Curry is still playing at a pretty high level at 636 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:08,400 Speaker 2: thirty seven. Now they're trying to maybe send Jonathan kaminga 637 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,920 Speaker 2: who I think has been rumored to be traded the 638 00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 2: last two years now might be traded so they can 639 00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,600 Speaker 2: get somebody. But they're gonna they're not gonna get somebody young. 640 00:33:18,640 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 2: They're gonna have to get somebody older. And they're talking 641 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:26,040 Speaker 2: about maybe Damar rote DeRozan, which okay, I mean, that's 642 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:32,800 Speaker 2: that's that's okay. They're talking now once again, there's these opportunities. 643 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 2: Maybe they could bring back Klay Thompson. That's a possibility. 644 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 2: Dallas is interested in Jonathan KAMINGA. But for Steph Curry, 645 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 2: what do you got two more years? Maybe maybe a 646 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 2: third because I can't see him going from being the 647 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:56,440 Speaker 2: focal point to them just being maybe the way Lebron 648 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 2: is with the Lakers now, maybe he can be that 649 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,200 Speaker 2: where You're like, well, I'll be your third option. I'd 650 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: like to see what the other two options are, because 651 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 2: I don't know how you're gonna find somebody who's still 652 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: going to be better than Steph Curry. So we'll talk 653 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: to Reggie about that. For over forty years, tire Rack's 654 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 2: been helping you find the right tires for how and 655 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 2: what and where you drive, ship fast and free back 656 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 2: by free road hazard protection with convenient installation options like 657 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: mobile tire installation, tyrec dot com. The way tire buying 658 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 2: should be. Tyler in Utah, Hi, ty what's on your mind? 659 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 12: Oh? Just first time caller? Uh six? 660 00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 6: Just bringing back misery? 661 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 17: Was at the two thousand and seven Wild Card Game 662 00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:48,320 Speaker 17: Dallas in Seattle and Romo Bubble jew. 663 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 7: Less than two minutes left. 664 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,759 Speaker 12: Oh, Jason Garrett didn't bring that one up, but that 665 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,040 Speaker 12: one hurts well. 666 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,160 Speaker 2: He wasn't part of the team. I asked him about 667 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: when he was coaching the Cowboys. He wasn't there and 668 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 2: Romo watched the field goal snap and then tried to 669 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 2: run it in. You still go back to that des 670 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 2: Bryant play. It is fascinating that they didn't think that 671 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 2: it was he was making football a football move. He 672 00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:25,719 Speaker 2: made football moves. I bizarre, bizarre, and that you know 673 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 2: you overturn that so it's called to catch on the field, 674 00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 2: and then they overturned it like there's certain times when 675 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,600 Speaker 2: you say they're not going to overturn that, that when 676 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:41,080 Speaker 2: they did. But I still think, you know, the embarrassing 677 00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,880 Speaker 2: one for the NFL was Calvin Johnson when he scores 678 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 2: that touchdown and that opened the door, That opened the 679 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 2: door to interpretation. Did you complete the process? I wonder 680 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 2: how the NFL would have been affected with today's rules 681 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: catch not a catch, complete the process? All of that? 682 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:09,040 Speaker 2: What would how would they have ruled with Franco Harris 683 00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 2: with the immaculate reception? Did it hit the ground? Did 684 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: it hit another player? I don't know if the call 685 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: on the field was do you overturn it? Like down 686 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 2: through history there have been plays where you know, now 687 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 2: you look back and you go man would they have 688 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 2: called that a catch? 689 00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 3: Yes, Well, if that happened now you would know if 690 00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:32,120 Speaker 3: it was a catch or not. There wouldn't really be 691 00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:34,880 Speaker 3: any debate. Like look at the Julian Edelman catch against 692 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:39,040 Speaker 3: the Falcons. You were able to see because of video 693 00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 3: that that was only like half an inch off the ground. 694 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: So it was a good catch. Yeah, but we still 695 00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: don't know if the ball didn't hit another stealer like 696 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: there was the ricochet. 697 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, but if it was modern day you would probably 698 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: be able to tell that more based on the number 699 00:36:56,640 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 3: of cameras and the quality of cameras, there wouldn't be 700 00:36:59,160 --> 00:36:59,960 Speaker 3: as much of a debate. 701 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, even now when we look at it, you still 702 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: can't tell. But that was standard definition. Let's see Grant 703 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:11,200 Speaker 2: and Charlotte H. Grant, what's on your mind today? 704 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 12: Well, it's up DP all right. Being a Panthers fan, 705 00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 12: I got two for you. So two thousand and four 706 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,759 Speaker 12: Super Bowl I was eleven. John Casey kicks the ball 707 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 12: out of bounds on the kickoff against the Patriots, giving 708 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 12: them giving it to him on the forty Adam minitary 709 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,280 Speaker 12: easy field goal for the wind That was a heartbreaker. 710 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 12: And then cam in twenty sixteen. Not diving on the ball, 711 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 12: not diving on the fumble. That's become me worthy. 712 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:40,120 Speaker 2: Thank you, Grant. I don't think it would have mattered 713 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,279 Speaker 2: against Denver, but you're right, that ball was just kind 714 00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 2: of there and Cam didn't jump on it. Uh, Sam 715 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,719 Speaker 2: and Colorado? Hey Sam, Hey. 716 00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 16: Dan, and you guys, second time, long time, long suffering 717 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 16: bite Kings fan. 718 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 2: So this one still stings. 719 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 16: Back in ninety eight, we had Randall Cunningham just winding 720 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 16: up and chucking it down the field to the life 721 00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 16: of Randy Moss and Chris Carter. We had Johnny Randall 722 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:21,000 Speaker 16: playing d end, one of the baddest little guys ever 723 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 16: to play the position. And then we had the infamous 724 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:29,920 Speaker 16: Gary Anderson had not missed any field goals all year. 725 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 16: We are about to go to the Super Bowl, and 726 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,959 Speaker 16: Gary Anderson decides to, Yeah, you know what, in the bed. 727 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 2: So I don't know if he decided to. I think 728 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 2: it just happened that way, but I get what you're 729 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 2: you're laying down there, Sam had. Vikings team was good. 730 00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 2: They were really good. Well, they'd lose one game that year. 731 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,240 Speaker 5: Yeah, Pully, that ninety eight Vikings team, Randall Cunningham prime 732 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 5: Chris Carter, Randy Moss reed the running back Robert Smith 733 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 5: breakout season. 734 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 10: Wow. Yes, Marv and the Broncos were like, man, we 735 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 10: got a tough game. Probably going to face the Vikings. 736 00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,760 Speaker 10: Oh we have the Falcons all right. 737 00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: Rich in California, Hi Rich. 738 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 13: Good morning, Dan and crew. 739 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:18,839 Speaker 17: Thanks so much to take my call. 740 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 4: Appreciate it. 741 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:19,799 Speaker 7: YEP. 742 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 17: I grew up about thirty minutes east of Oakland, Big 743 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:26,640 Speaker 17: Raider fan and the Heyday Warriors fan. As fan went 744 00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,960 Speaker 17: in three state World Series and can't forget the Oakland Seals. 745 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 4: But the. 746 00:39:34,080 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 17: Moment that haunts me is one of the most famous, 747 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 17: the Immaculate Reception, And obviously there isn't great film on that. 748 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,040 Speaker 17: But our daughter and husband live in Pittsburgh, and every 749 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 17: time I fly in the PITTSFORGH Airport, I have to 750 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 17: look at that stupid statue of Frank o'herris bent over 751 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:54,719 Speaker 17: catching the ball. And the problem with the statue is 752 00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:55,880 Speaker 17: the ball was off the ground. 753 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,000 Speaker 2: It was not off the ground. 754 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,160 Speaker 17: They did it correctly, that ball would be on the 755 00:39:59,160 --> 00:39:59,960 Speaker 17: ground with his hands. 756 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 2: That stupid statue. This is going to be a haunting 757 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:12,040 Speaker 2: day for people as they get into that bad mood. 758 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:13,840 Speaker 2: And their wife goes, why are you in a bad mood? 759 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,919 Speaker 2: Dan Patrick asked me to call in and talk about 760 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:24,160 Speaker 2: all the painful moments that I've had. Oh, I could 761 00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 2: see where you're coming into the airport and there's Franco. 762 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 2: But Tony Dungee told me a story. I've mentioned it 763 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:33,239 Speaker 2: to you before, just to reiterate. When Tony was with 764 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 2: the Steelers as a defensive back and then as a coach. 765 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 2: He said that Franco Harris on every play when they practiced, 766 00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:43,880 Speaker 2: ran all the way to the end zone, like if 767 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,920 Speaker 2: you gave him the football and it was, you know, 768 00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,200 Speaker 2: going through the line of scrimmage. In his practice, he ran. 769 00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,439 Speaker 2: He always ran. He never quit on a play. Well, 770 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 2: because of that, Franco doesn't quit on that play. The 771 00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: vault wasn't supposed to go to him. Ricochet and then 772 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 2: it goes to Franco and he runs in for the touchdown. 773 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,719 Speaker 2: It's like Malcolm Butler did what Bill Belichick told him 774 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 2: to do in practice. When you see this go right 775 00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,759 Speaker 2: towards the ball, right towards the receiver, and he came 776 00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,120 Speaker 2: up with perhaps the biggest play in the history of 777 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:23,120 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl. Reggie Miller will join us. What's next 778 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 2: for Steph Curry and the Golden State Warriors. More of 779 00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,160 Speaker 2: your phone calls as well more of your misery eight 780 00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,919 Speaker 2: seven seven three DP show Fritzy Seat and Marv Paul 781 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:32,399 Speaker 2: Years truly back after this