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Speaker 1: Wow, hey everybody, It's Monday, August nineteenth, twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast, where we'd also

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Speaker 1: like to sit out the rest of the preseason. It's

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Speaker 1: been your man, NAMG Marcus Ran, joined by Michael f

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Speaker 1: Florio and Lakwan Jones. Happy Monday, gentlemen. How are we

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Speaker 1: feeling after the weekend. I'm feeling good.

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Speaker 2: I mean Manchester United, you know, the debut, but Joshua

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Speaker 2: is our key. He was able to get a goal

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Speaker 2: and get the win. Obviously, I'm wearing the jersey. I mean,

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Speaker 2: this is an audio podcast, you can't see it, but

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Speaker 2: feeling good, man, mondays are good?

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Speaker 1: All right? Well man, you arsenal all sitting at the

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Speaker 1: top of the table with three points after the Gunners

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Speaker 1: shut out Wolves. Because that's exactly what everybody came to

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Speaker 1: hear about, is that.

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Speaker 3: You guys are speaking a foreign language to mean right now,

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Speaker 3: like with American football, I don't know it.

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Speaker 1: So we were talking about football, sir, which is a

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Speaker 1: whole other conversation about like why we call our football

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Speaker 1: football when you very rarely use your feet, But that's

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Speaker 1: a whole other.

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Speaker 3: We hate plays where feet are used right exactly.

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Speaker 1: We're trying to take feet out of the game in

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Speaker 1: American football. Uh more and more. But yeah, man, Floryd,

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Speaker 1: did you get you had a little Twitter misshap this morning?

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Speaker 3: Huh man, if you saw any pro elon Musk tweets

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Speaker 3: and pro Crypto tweets, it was not me. And then

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Speaker 3: trying to get it back and they're like, okay, you

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Speaker 3: changed your password, now use this code, and I'm using

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Speaker 3: it and they're saying it's incorrect. So I'm like, all right,

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Speaker 3: let me ask for help, and they're like, all right,

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Speaker 3: we might get back to you in six weeks, like

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Speaker 3: I just missed the old.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Man, wow, yeah, we'll see you. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: mid season. I guess at this point you'll be ready

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Speaker 1: for some of the international games.

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Speaker 3: I guess I can use it from my laptop, but

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm a huge like t it's come from my phone. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: so this is gonna be a problem.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty aggressive.

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Speaker 1: Actually, let's uh, let's let's pray for Florio and his

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Speaker 1: Twitter account and hopefully they figure things out sooner, sooner

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Speaker 1: rather than later. We had a way to talk about. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Week two of the preseason is in the books. There's

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Speaker 1: one more week of preseason stuff, but we will look

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Speaker 1: back on what we saw this past weekend and uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, talk about the things that maybe we decided

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Speaker 1: or have figured out or something of the matter there.

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Speaker 1: So we'll get into that. But first let's start with

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Speaker 1: some news headlines, and a lot of them focus on

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Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers who played Florio's Buffalo Bills this weekend.

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Speaker 1: Maybe the biggest one though. And Lakwan, you and I

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Speaker 1: were hanging out over the weekend and you told me

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Speaker 1: about this. I think you saw it pop up, you

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Speaker 1: got the notification and you mentioned it. Jalen Warren will

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Speaker 1: miss multiple weeks. He has a hamstring injury. Obviously. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think everybody has sort of decided whether you were

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Speaker 1: a Najee Harris person or a Jalen Warren person. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of us here, I guess all three

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Speaker 1: of us were more in the Jalen warrens. Yeah, is

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Speaker 1: that fair? But he's gonna be gone for at least

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Speaker 1: a little bit. There's a good chance he could miss

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Speaker 1: week one, So, uh, Floria, I mean I'll start with you,

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Speaker 1: are you pivoting to Naji Harris now?

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Speaker 3: At cost? I would be, but I'm expecting Naji Harris

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Speaker 3: to probably get pulled up a bit. But the thing

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Speaker 3: was that the reason I was in on on Warren

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Speaker 3: was because Arthur Smith has a history of using two backs,

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Speaker 3: and not just in general like at the goal line

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Speaker 3: as well. But the thorn on the side that is

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Speaker 3: Cardero Patterson is still there because last year he used

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Speaker 3: three running backs equally near the goal lines. So I

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Speaker 3: was I was like, I like Warren because of all

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Speaker 3: of the guys, he's the explosive one, he's the past catcher.

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Speaker 3: But if a lot of that volume is to go

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Speaker 3: to Nause, he would be of value then. But my

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Speaker 3: concern is, like, does this mean we just see more

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Speaker 3: Cardero Patterson then it all goes to Naji Harris. So

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Speaker 3: I'm a little bit more interested in on him, But

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Speaker 3: I'd be lying if I said like I'm all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden bullish to go after Nause.

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Speaker 1: I mean, are you mcwan, would you be willing to

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Speaker 1: wait on Nase and still sort of make that pick

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Speaker 1: or are you kind of backing off? Now?

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Speaker 2: Naji has always been a pick where like he cannot

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Speaker 2: go higher than where his adp is is for me

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Speaker 2: to be interested because at that point in the draft,

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Speaker 2: I'm looking like I need a RB too, but I

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Speaker 2: need somebody that's going to be utilized as much as

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Speaker 2: I would like them to. And then trusting Arthur Smith

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Speaker 2: is kind of like we just explained it, we just

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Speaker 2: don't know what we're getting in the goal line. So

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Speaker 2: my my pick always was pivot to Jalen Warren, with

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Speaker 2: Florio said, he's the more explosive back, he's the pass catcher,

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Speaker 2: and Arthur Smith loves running outside those tackles and that's

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Speaker 2: kind of where Jalen Warren was living and breathing last season.

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Speaker 2: But it's just unfortunate with his injury now where it's

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Speaker 2: like I really don't want any Pittsburgh Steelers in that

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Speaker 2: be sprinkled in somewhat. I was kind of cringey when

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Speaker 2: he got that one, that one play out of the backfield,

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Speaker 2: you know, in the preseason, I'm just like, are we

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Speaker 2: really about this? See this in the regular season? Come on,

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Speaker 2: like we were done with it, Like it was cool

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Speaker 2: when it happened, it came and passed. Let that bus

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Speaker 1: So for what it's worth. Jerry Dulac, longtime Steelers beat reporter,

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Speaker 1: tweeted earlier on Monday morning, Jalen Warren typical hamstring injury,

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Speaker 1: a couple weeks recovery, could be ready for season opener.

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Speaker 1: So take that for what it's worth. Obviously that's not

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Speaker 1: an official, you know, medical designation, but it is encouraging

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Speaker 1: if you were of the Jalen Warren persuasion, which again

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Speaker 1: I think pretty much all of us on this show

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Speaker 1: were out. The other thing of note with the Steelers

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Speaker 1: this past week was the quarterback situation. And you know, Florida,

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Speaker 1: guys about it, how I was seeing tweets, and then

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Speaker 1: The quarterback situation is still a mess in Pittsburgh. Russell

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Speaker 1: Wilson did not look great justin field really could muster

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Speaker 1: or much. He was able to get a fuel goal

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Speaker 1: and that was kind of it. Mike Tomlin says the

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Speaker 1: QB one evaluation is quote an incomplete study, So I

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Speaker 1: mean you'll start we'll start here. Do you have a

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Speaker 2: You know what, watching both of them playing like they

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Speaker 2: both had their flaws, So I kind of want them

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Speaker 2: to tap into some MANI mad some dragon ball Z

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Speaker 2: hit diffusion Dan to make one perfect quarterback.

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Speaker 1: Because you still have Justin.

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Speaker 2: Fields who's able to get out of the pocket, extend

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Speaker 2: the plays. Was likes these are the most exciting things

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Speaker 2: that we love about Justin Fields, But when it comes

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Speaker 2: to going downfield and making decisions and taking care of

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Speaker 2: the ball, that's not really the things that we have

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Speaker 2: seen from him. Now we're looking at Russell Wilson. He's

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Speaker 2: kind of like feeding the mud in that pocket when

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Speaker 2: it was collapsing. I know, we're playing with backup offensive linemen,

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Speaker 2: but man, the Russell Wilson we know and love is

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Speaker 2: on the highlight tape, extending the plays, rolling out and

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Speaker 2: doing the deep ball. So it's like, when we're not

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Speaker 2: seeing these things from Russell Wilson, we're still seeing the

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Speaker 2: mistakes from Justin Fields. Of course, that evaluation is going

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Speaker 2: to be incomplete, So I really don't have a preference

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Speaker 2: for fantasy right now, I'm really honestly concerned overall with

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Speaker 2: this pitchfordh Steelers offense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it looked bad. I went back.

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch the whole game, but I did go

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Speaker 1: back and watch parts of it, part that I hadn't seen,

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Speaker 1: And it's just they struggled to move the ball. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned Lebron. They weren't playing with their normal starting offensive lineman.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, Florida, with what you saw, does it

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Speaker 1: change how you feel about drafting any Steelers? And I guess,

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Speaker 1: I guess specifically we're trobably talking about George Pickens and

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Speaker 1: maybe Pat Fryermouth because they're still looking for a wide

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Speaker 1: and thinking, well, maybe I should have had less George

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Speaker 3: No, I'm still in on Pickens because he goes as

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Speaker 3: a wide receiver three, and I think he provides much

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Speaker 3: higher upside. And with my builds a lot of the

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Speaker 3: times I already have like two locked and loaded every

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Speaker 3: week starting wide receivers there. So if I'm taking a

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Speaker 3: wide receiver three, I want someone that could have those

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Speaker 3: elevated spike weeks I'm much more concerned with ceiling in

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Speaker 3: that build than I am with floor. But I think

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Speaker 3: Russell Wilson or Justin Fields are gonna air it out

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Speaker 3: deep like that's what their preference is. They like to

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Speaker 3: throw the deep ball, and that will be built around

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Speaker 3: George Pickens. I think regardless of who the quarterback is,

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Speaker 3: he's gonna get a ton of volume and everything. So

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Speaker 3: I'm still in on George Pickens. I do think for

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Speaker 3: Pickens's sake, Russell Wilson is probably the better quarterback we

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Speaker 3: It didn't count, but he almost made a circus type

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Speaker 3: catch on the sideline where his second foot just tapped

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Speaker 3: out of bounds before touching the green grass. If he

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Speaker 3: gets that second foot in, I think we're talking about

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Speaker 3: George Pickens a little bit differently today. But for fantasy alone,

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Speaker 3: give me Justin Fields, and I have no interest in

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Speaker 3: drafting Russell Wilson, but I have interest in Justin Fields.

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Speaker 3: I've definitely taken him as my QB three and a

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Speaker 3: lot of best ball and super flex. He is someone

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Speaker 3: you need to take and in one leagues more of

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Speaker 3: a watchless kind of name. But he is the only

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Speaker 3: backup quarterback maybe ever that we could say, if this

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Speaker 3: guy starts, he's top ten with top five upside immediately,

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I mean no, but you're not alone, Like I saw

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Speaker 1: plenty of people drafting him late in Bestball drafts because

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Speaker 1: I don't know that anybody even before what we saw

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Speaker 1: this weekend, I don't think anybody looked at Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: and thought you have a lock on this job, right that,

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Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't think anybody believed that wholeheartedly

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Speaker 1: for sure, no doubt about it. He was going to

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Speaker 1: be the starter for seventeen games this season, Like there

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Speaker 1: was always the possibility that Justin Field is going to

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Speaker 1: take over as the starter. And I think that's the

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Speaker 1: reason you saw people drafting him. But I mean I

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Speaker 1: gotta ask, because like Leawan talked about him looking feet

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Speaker 1: in the mud, I mean, Floyda, is is Russ cooked?

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Speaker 1: Is Is it finally done? He?

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Speaker 3: I don't know if I'm the right person to ask,

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Speaker 3: because even last year when everyone was like Russ played

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Speaker 3: really well, I was like, did he Like, I know,

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Speaker 3: statistically speaking, we could say like he had a solid year,

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Speaker 3: but I mean watching them play, it was a lot

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Speaker 3: of just like he's gonna play just good enough to lose,

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Speaker 3: and he's gonna when they're trailing, he's gonna be throwing

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Speaker 3: the ball and stuff like that. Like even at his best,

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Speaker 3: sacks were a huge issue. And he's not mobile like

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Speaker 3: he used to be. He's a pure pocket kind of guy. Now,

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Speaker 3: I think the best is long gone and I don't

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Speaker 3: I think they're very similar quarterbacks. I compared their stats

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Speaker 3: Now I personally have more Dotson than McCaffrey right now.

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Speaker 1: we were traveling back to Los Angeles, so we just

430
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Speaker 1: didn't get to sit down and watch as much preseason

431
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Speaker 1: football as we would have otherwise. I suspected a lot

432
00:21:00,920 --> 00:21:03,520
Speaker 1: of other fantasy analysts in the same boat as we

433
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,440
Speaker 1: were this past weekend, but we did get to lock

434
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Speaker 1: in on preseason week two, so we each came up

435
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,760
Speaker 1: with three things that we learned from what we saw. LQ,

436
00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:12,520
Speaker 1: I will hand it off to you, what is the

437
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:13,920
Speaker 1: thing you learned from this weekend.

438
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 2: I got a lot of running backs, man, I kept

439
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,399
Speaker 2: my eye close to them, But the first running back

440
00:21:18,440 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 2: I want to talk about is Trey Benton for the Cardinals. Man,

441
00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: a lot of reports during camp they were saying like negative,

442
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,040
Speaker 2: not negative things, but not things that you want to

443
00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,399
Speaker 2: hear about a guy that you're really in on. But

444
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,760
Speaker 2: now that we were able to get to see him blossom,

445
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:35,439
Speaker 2: it actually make some flashes. And then we have to

446
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 2: understand he's playing with the backup O line and I

447
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:42,160
Speaker 2: watched every single snap that he touched the ball. And man,

448
00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,080
Speaker 2: I don't want to put anybody online on blast right

449
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 2: now because it is cutting season, it's coming up, but

450
00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,320
Speaker 2: there's a couple guys on that old line where straight liabilities. Man,

451
00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:55,320
Speaker 2: they're going to get somebody hurt. So therefore, for him

452
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:56,720
Speaker 2: to be able to go out there and do the

453
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Speaker 2: things he has been able to do these last two

454
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Speaker 2: weeks in preseason, has sixty four rushing yards sixty to

455
00:22:02,760 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: sixty two yards after contact and only two yards before contact,

456
00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:09,320
Speaker 2: So that two yards before contact, let you know what

457
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 2: he's working with with his O line. So I have

458
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,000
Speaker 2: really no worries about him going into drafts till by

459
00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 2: the time the end of the summer wraps up, he's

460
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 2: going to be on all my rosters.

461
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,480
Speaker 3: Yeah.

462
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,679
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I mean, I think we

463
00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:21,480
Speaker 1: all sort of liked him as a guy that you could,

464
00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,959
Speaker 1: certainly as a handcuff to James Connor, but maybe as

465
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 1: a guy that midway to late in the season was

466
00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 1: going to take over. I saw a lot of him

467
00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,920
Speaker 1: this weekend, and as you mentioned, working with backup linemen,

468
00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 1: so the blocking wasn't necessarily great, but they do seem

469
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,399
Speaker 1: to have a determined role for him. James Connor to me,

470
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:42,440
Speaker 1: is still the lead running back. He's still the RB one,

471
00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 1: right man. If you if you believed in Trey Benson before,

472
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,840
Speaker 1: you should absolutely believe now. If he didn't believe, Uh, welcome,

473
00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: come on, get on board, Come on the done, come

474
00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,959
Speaker 1: on the bus. It's still time for sure. Uh, Floria,

475
00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 1: What did you take away from the weekend. You took

476
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Speaker 1: away a thing that I know we texted about that

477
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Speaker 1: I'm really really on board with too, So.

478
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to you. You were the first one

479
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,679
Speaker 3: to say you're moving up Rome ahead of Keenan Allen.

480
00:23:05,800 --> 00:23:08,440
Speaker 3: But wow, Caleb and Rome look special. That was the thing,

481
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,920
Speaker 3: the biggest takeaway for me, and I saw a lot

482
00:23:10,920 --> 00:23:13,960
Speaker 3: of people like tweeting me and stuff like, oh, Caleb

483
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 3: looked bad until the end of his time and then

484
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 3: he looked good. It's like, Okay, he is a rookie.

485
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 3: There's going to be growing pains. But you got to

486
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:27,719
Speaker 3: see multiple flashes of what makes Caleb so special, and

487
00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 3: not just the rollout throw where he connects to Rome deep.

488
00:23:30,760 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 3: There was also the one where he rolled out and

489
00:23:32,600 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: hit Roma douonsay but he had stepped out of bounds first.

490
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,920
Speaker 3: That play was extremely impressive, the running play, and that

491
00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:41,840
Speaker 3: is where I think Caleb Williams is being overlooked. I

492
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,560
Speaker 3: don't think he's the type of quarterback who's going to

493
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,520
Speaker 3: run for five hundred yards, but I think five or

494
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,160
Speaker 3: more rushing touchdowns are in play because he is a

495
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:52,679
Speaker 3: sneaky good runner and he just has a nose for

496
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,040
Speaker 3: the end zone, and that was something I remember my

497
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: scouting report when Trevor Lawrence was coming out of college

498
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:01,359
Speaker 3: and it has translated to the NFL levels, so I

499
00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 3: think it will for Caleb as well. But my concern

500
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 3: with the Bears offense was slow paced, not a lot

501
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: of passing plays. That's the Shane Waldron system. For his

502
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,960
Speaker 3: three years in Seattle, they ran the fewest play offensive plays.

503
00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 3: But if you're gonna be slow paced and you're not

504
00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,840
Speaker 3: gonna have a ton of volume, you want the guy

505
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:22,240
Speaker 3: who is a big play threat, and especially because he

506
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 3: is the cheapest of all the Bears wide receivers. So

507
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,840
Speaker 3: I don't find myself drafting a ton of Keenan or

508
00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 3: DJ Moore, but I'm definitely gonna try to get some

509
00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: more Roma doonsday because the big plays are there, the

510
00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,119
Speaker 3: splash plays are there, and he's one injury away from

511
00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 3: shooting up draft boards.

512
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Speaker 1: What I saw, what I've seen from Caleb so far

513
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,919
Speaker 1: is reminiscent of what I saw from him at USC

514
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: for the last two years, where he is looking for

515
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,760
Speaker 1: the home run play and you know that that rollout

516
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: throw downfield to Odoonza. I'm you know, sc fans remember

517
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,440
Speaker 1: it because you saw it a lot with Brendan Rice

518
00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,640
Speaker 1: and Taj Washington, right like you just when things start

519
00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,639
Speaker 1: to break down, that is when Caleb really excels. And

520
00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,520
Speaker 1: it looks like he and Know Dunza are very much

521
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: on the same page for those sorts of things. So

522
00:25:06,359 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: that is certainly very encouraging. You mentioned how he runs,

523
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:11,680
Speaker 1: and I always say he runs sort of the way

524
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,199
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes runs in that he is He's not a

525
00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,440
Speaker 1: running quarterback. He's a scrambling quarterback. And when he has

526
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,800
Speaker 1: to get out of the pocket and make plays with

527
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: his legs, he's very good at that. And so I

528
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: think your point to him having you know, five or

529
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,320
Speaker 1: six rushing touchdowns, I think that's on point because you know,

530
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: I don't expect that Shane Waldron's going to draw up

531
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: a lot of designed runs for Caleb Williams, but he

532
00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 1: is smarter enough. One you don't want to risk yourchise

533
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,680
Speaker 1: quarterback to that, right. But the other part of it

534
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 1: is he is smart enough so that when he sees something,

535
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,679
Speaker 1: I mean that touchdown run, right, he was looking looking looking,

536
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,159
Speaker 1: nothing was open. He saw that there was a lane, Lisaw,

537
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 1: there's a lane. He's like all right, let's go. And

538
00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:53,280
Speaker 1: I think that is going to be who Caleb Williams is.

539
00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:55,119
Speaker 1: That's who he was in college, That's who he's going

540
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,639
Speaker 1: to be in the NFL. But yeah, I'm moving o'doonsay

541
00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:03,320
Speaker 1: up ahead of of Keenan Allen right now. I'm I'm

542
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: really thinking about do I move Caleb ahead of ja

543
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels, who I'm toying with it. I am eating,

544
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 1: But I can't do it well because he's not gonna

545
00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: obviously not gonna give you the rushing upside that Daniels does, right,

546
00:26:15,560 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: but but he's got three really good receivers. We just

547
00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 1: we just we just had a whole conversation about who

548
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: are we talking about? After Terry McLaurin and Washington.

549
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:29,240
Speaker 3: Four thousand yards. We did this a month ago, and

550
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 3: I was the only one that said.

551
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: He's gonna do it. I think I'm in. I think

552
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,679
Speaker 1: I think I'm in. I think we're in, boys, I

553
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,439
Speaker 1: think I'm in. I did, And here's I think I was.

554
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,719
Speaker 1: I was just being I was being cautious because like

555
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,679
Speaker 1: this was my my usc heart talking right Like I

556
00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't want to set him up for failure.

557
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,120
Speaker 1: I watched these couple of games and I'm like, yeah, man,

558
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: I think it could happen. I really do.

559
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,320
Speaker 2: We has a lot of my homes in him. I

560
00:26:53,359 --> 00:26:56,960
Speaker 2: saw a lot of homes in that brow, and I'm like, oh,

561
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,120
Speaker 2: he's going to be special.

562
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean, man, the long one, the rollout, as you mentioned,

563
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: the dudes had stepped out of bounds, but just the

564
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,679
Speaker 1: way he sort of deeped the defensive linemen and just

565
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: fired a rock.

566
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 2: Even the cross of chest. The no look to Swift

567
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 2: was like you cannot teach that. There's no way you

568
00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,280
Speaker 2: could teach that type of greatness. And like he if

569
00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,399
Speaker 2: he's going to be doing things like this all season,

570
00:27:19,200 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 2: strapping man the Bear, the Bears might be running the north.

571
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: Well, wait and here's the Bears and Chiefs play each

572
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:26,560
Speaker 1: other next week. I don't know if we'll see either

573
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: of the starting quarterbacks, but like you stand next to

574
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,439
Speaker 1: each other, if Caleb, if Caleb drot hits us with

575
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,240
Speaker 1: it behind the back pass, then like you know, everybody response,

576
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:37,879
Speaker 1: people are gonna lose their minds. It was but it

577
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,639
Speaker 1: was like, you know, like Caleb did his thing, and

578
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,159
Speaker 1: it was just like it was like a disc track, right.

579
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: It was like Roger Mahomes, you have twenty four hours

580
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:44,560
Speaker 1: to respond, and like two hours later he hit us

581
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:49,840
Speaker 1: with behind the back pass wild Kendrick Over it was wild.

582
00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: I'm like, come on, dude.

583
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think they're I think I think they're

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 1: making that up. I think that was just a story

585
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: for the cameras. I think that's a story for social mediaday.

586
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 1: I think I think that was that was for sure plan.

587
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: Speaking of Patrick Mahomes, one thing I took away was

588
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: Rushi Rice will have value as long as Hollywood Brown

589
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 1: is hurt. It was sort of what we saw with

590
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 1: him last year where a lot of things were schemed,

591
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: are a lot of things underneath, a lot of ways

592
00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: to get him the football. He had four catches for

593
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:22,399
Speaker 1: thirty five yards. That feels sort of like a Russhie

594
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Rice line and what we're going to see a lot

595
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,480
Speaker 1: of this year. But the very smart Dwayne McFarland actually

596
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 1: tweeted about how he does think there's going to be

597
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 1: something there for Rashi Rice this year. I think I

598
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,479
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a lot more potent until

599
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: Marquise Brown comes back. Because we saw Xavier Worthy get

600
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: some downfield shots. I think Brown's going to get some

601
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 1: of those as well. But in the meantime and fellas

602
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: we know that Hollywood Brown has a history of missing

603
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: games due to injury. As long as that is in play,

604
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: then there is something there for Rashi Rice because you

605
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: know they're going to want other options at the wide

606
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 1: receiver spot and they've already seen what he can do. Again.

607
00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:04,840
Speaker 3: I've changed my tune on all the Chiefs wide receivers.

608
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,120
Speaker 3: I think I cost all three are good values, and

609
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 3: I think you should be targeting all of them because

610
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 3: in this draw, the two drives we saw with the starters,

611
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 3: they were no longer doing this like cute scene mix

612
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 3: and Matt it was Rashid Rice, Xavier Worthy, Justin Watson

613
00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:24,160
Speaker 3: out there. It's pretty much exclusively in three wide receiver sets.

614
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 3: So I think you just slide in Marki's Brown for

615
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 3: Justin Watson and we're seeing a ton of three wide

616
00:29:29,760 --> 00:29:31,600
Speaker 3: receiver sets with just those three on the field. And

617
00:29:31,640 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 3: if they're gonna be on the field consistently and you

618
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,280
Speaker 3: get them outside of the top thirty wide receivers, I

619
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 3: think they're huge values.

620
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that. I know. Have you have

621
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:42,320
Speaker 1: you changed your tune on any of them at all,

622
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,959
Speaker 1: Lakwan Xavier Worthy.

623
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 2: But it's negative though, Like I don't feel like, you know,

624
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 2: I'm in on him anymore. And it's a lot of

625
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: things that go into that, just because of what we

626
00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 2: just talked about Rashid Rice, because of how good he

627
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,000
Speaker 2: is and how reliable of a target he is. It's

628
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,360
Speaker 2: gonna be a lot of boomer bus with Xavier Worthy.

629
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: And like this morning five Am, I kind of broke

630
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: down the highlight that just keeps getting played and played

631
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:09,240
Speaker 2: and played over with Xavier Worthy with that catch.

632
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 3: It was a false.

633
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: Start and he was going to get bumped off the

634
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: line if it was actually called. And like there's a

635
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 2: lot of variables that go into this game. I'm a

636
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,520
Speaker 2: little bit more worried about him being all around wide receiver,

637
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 2: so I can dig into that later. But it's just

638
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 2: like I think I'm on the same boat with Rashid Rice,

639
00:30:27,080 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: Like I actually moved him up.

640
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: Wow, all right, so we're all a little more excited

641
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: about Rashid Rice.

642
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 3: I'm excited about Worthy.

643
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like she's just how do put the

644
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: NFL league? The NFL let the Chiefs get the fastest

645
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Speaker 1: guy in the league.

646
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 3: Like, how blame the Bills?

647
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 2: The Bills once again hand them a gift?

648
00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:51,760
Speaker 1: Why that's your chief competition? Like why why are you

649
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: letting this happen twice?

650
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: I was an Xavier Worthy guy too, So on draft

651
00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,000
Speaker 3: and night I was pretty upset.

652
00:30:58,280 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 1: Man. What else? What else did you learn from the weekend?

653
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 2: Oh well, things got interesting over there in Cleveland looking

654
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:06,040
Speaker 2: at that backfield.

655
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: I mean just reports.

656
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: A couple of weeks ago, Deontay Foreman suffered a neck injury,

657
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 2: you know, a very scary hit. And then now he

658
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: comes out and he ends up performing well, and I

659
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 2: think that, you know, the coaching staff looks at him

660
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,320
Speaker 2: as a guy that's a solid backup. Like what I've

661
00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 2: learned is he needs to be drafted. He's a guy

662
00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,760
Speaker 2: that you need to have at the last couple of

663
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 2: rounds where you're like, I need to get more running

664
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: back dev because there's actually something there with him, Like

665
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: he brings, he packs a punch on the ground. I mean,

666
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: if we look at the numbers last week, they weren't

667
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 2: I mean last preseason, they weren't good. But he's still

668
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 2: offered in the passing game, where which is kind of

669
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 2: something out of his element. From before, but he looked really,

670
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,360
Speaker 2: really good catching the ball out of the backfield. And

671
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: it's also worth noting that two of their tackles going

672
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: into the season are on pup right now, so this

673
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: is where a lot of the rollout and screens are

674
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 2: gonna have to be for Ford or Devonte Foreman Deontay Foreman.

675
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: So it's like there's gonna be some targets coming out

676
00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 2: of that back peel for Watson to get out. Get

677
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:05,360
Speaker 2: the ball out because both blindsides are they're starting right

678
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 2: and left tackle are going to be out. So it's

679
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,120
Speaker 2: like that's kind of what we saw in that preseason game,

680
00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: a lot of dumpballs. So I think Deontay Foreman he brings.

681
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: He brings something to the table that you should be

682
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: taking notice of.

683
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,200
Speaker 1: Does this change how you feel about Nick Chubb because

684
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: I think you remind that it's multiply. He could like

685
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 1: lift a Volkswagen or something like that.

686
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 2: It does, It doesn't bring them back to rush him back,

687
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 2: especially when you have basically your O line in shambles

688
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: right now on both the outside tackles. So it's like

689
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 2: one of those things where you're thankful to have a

690
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman in the building to kind of make up

691
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,560
Speaker 2: for where Jerome Ford. He's kind of like an average

692
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: rusher like, I don't see much coming from him other

693
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 2: than his involvement in the passing game. I mean, four

694
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 2: point zero yards per carry isn't like screaming excitement. There

695
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 2: could be regression here that you have a guy like

696
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 2: Deontay Foreman who actually has a healthy yards for carry

697
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 2: career wise.

698
00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:57,840
Speaker 1: All right, especially three guys there in Cleveland. If Nick

699
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:03,480
Speaker 1: Chubb can get healthy, which is not great for us, Yeah,

700
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: I look, I don't see a reason to rush Nick

701
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 1: Chubb back. I mean, I know he wants to get back.

702
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure the Browns would love to have him back.

703
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:10,960
Speaker 1: But if you've got two guys in Ford and Foreman

704
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: who can get the job done, I think there's reason

705
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 1: to be patient with him. Floya, you have a takeaway

706
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 1: about your own team's backfield right now?

707
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know. My timeline since Saturday has been nothing

708
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:26,120
Speaker 3: but Ray Davis praise, and as someone I would like

709
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: to say that I think I've been like one of

710
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 3: the leaders on the Ray Davis hype train this summer.

711
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:36,080
Speaker 3: But my takeaway was a little different from everyone else's like, yeah,

712
00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 3: Ray Davis looked great, and he looked a part and

713
00:33:39,800 --> 00:33:43,120
Speaker 3: all that, but James Cook is still the clear cut

714
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: starter they Josh Allen didn't play in this game because

715
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 3: of rain, but all of their other starters did and

716
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 3: James Cook played all fifteen snaps on the opening three drives.

717
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: We did not see Ray Davis until the fourth drive

718
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 3: in that game. So I still like Ray for all

719
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,240
Speaker 3: the same reasons. I think he is a physical runner.

720
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:05,960
Speaker 3: I think he gives the Bills something different than James Cook.

721
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 3: I think he's a better pass catcher than a lot

722
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: of people think. I think he is a bigger threat

723
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,560
Speaker 3: to take full drives away from James Cook than anyone

724
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 3: was last year. And if I was the Bills, I

725
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:19,360
Speaker 3: would be doing so because James cook efficiency took a

726
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,400
Speaker 3: hit last year, particularly after that Cowboys game where they

727
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 3: force fed him the ball. But fifteen to fifteen snaps

728
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 3: is something that we should just not ignore, I think.

729
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 3: And if you've been taking James Cook as your RB

730
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 3: one or something like that, I think you should feel

731
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: comfortable that this guy is still going to see a

732
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 3: ton of volume.

733
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,839
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I've been drafting a lot of Ray

734
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: Davis later, because I do think he's going to have

735
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: a role. And I think to your point, I mean

736
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: we've seen in years past where I don't know that

737
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: the Bills really ever wanted to make James Cook the guy, right.

738
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:57,160
Speaker 1: I mean last year we saw Latavius Murray getting opportunities.

739
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I know they were hoping Damien Harris could

740
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: give him something unfortu he could just never you know,

741
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,800
Speaker 1: get or stay healthy and ended up having to retire.

742
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: I'm looking at I forgot they brought in Leonard Fournette.

743
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I forgot. I literally forgot that they had brought in

744
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:15,879
Speaker 1: Leonard Fournette at some point last year. But I think

745
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 1: the point being they want to have somebody else to

746
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: sort of supplement I mean before that, uh, you know,

747
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: when they were working with Devin Singletary and then we

748
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: saw James Cook kind of work himself in to a

749
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 1: bigger opportunity there. So I do think there's a real

750
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 1: good shot for Ray Davis to get some chances. The

751
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 1: question becomes, which is the eternal question, Florio, Does this

752
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 1: mean they go away from Josh Allen at the goal line,

753
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: because that's gonna have a big impact on what Ray

754
00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Davis's fantasy potential can be.

755
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 3: I am expecting like six to eight rushing touchdowns out

756
00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,760
Speaker 3: of Josh Allen and that doesn't I mean that's half

757
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 3: or less than half of what he gave last year

758
00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: when he had the fifteen. So I do think Ray

759
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:59,280
Speaker 3: Davis will be their goal line back. But Josh Allen

760
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,880
Speaker 3: is never going to completely give that roll up.

761
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,640
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's been his own thing down there.

762
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 1: He's been their number one goal lineback since he got drafted.

763
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 1: And you're right, he also can improvise and sort of

764
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: take it in on his own if he decides that

765
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: they got their own too.

766
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 3: This is this is my own beef, Like why why

767
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,560
Speaker 3: do people for Hurts and for Allan and these guys,

768
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:21,800
Speaker 3: like a rushing touchdown is the same as a short

769
00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 3: passing touchdown, Like, let's not discredit them, please.

770
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,320
Speaker 1: Well and honestly, like, if you have those guys and

771
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 1: you play in a league where it's four points for

772
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,919
Speaker 1: passing touchdowns, you would rather have them run it in. Yeah,

773
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:36,240
Speaker 1: you get those two extra points versus them throwing the football.

774
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: Speaking of throwing the football, I think I'm in on

775
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,240
Speaker 1: bow nick Shaw. I was I was among the people

776
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: yesterday and I saw a lot of folks on the timeline.

777
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: It was an interesting conversation because a lot of people

778
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,120
Speaker 1: on the timeline were like, oh, bo Nicks. It was

779
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 1: like bo Nicks, And then a lot of people are like, hey,

780
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: he's playing against backups, and you know, don't get too excited.

781
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: Here's my stance on bon Knicks. I'm not sitting here

782
00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: saying I'm gonna start drafting a ton of bone Knicks.

783
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm not advocating that you run out and start drafting

784
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:03,520
Speaker 1: a ton of Bonnicks. If you want to try to

785
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,920
Speaker 1: get him late as sort of a QB two option, fine,

786
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: I can totally endorse that. Why I'm in on bon

787
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: Nicks is because it's obvious there's some life with the

788
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Broncos offense when he's at quarterback. I saw what I

789
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 1: saw from him was a guy who was able to

790
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:20,879
Speaker 1: sort of move the offense, make some good decisions, get

791
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 1: the ball out to his targets, and just keep the

792
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:26,120
Speaker 1: chains and keep the line moving. That is what I

793
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: was excited about. Because we know who Jared Stidham is,

794
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 1: we know who Zach Wilson is, and we know that

795
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:33,640
Speaker 1: neither of those guys are going to get us excited

796
00:37:33,719 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: about the peripheral pieces there. I say this as somebody

797
00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: who's drafted a little bit of Courtland Sutton. Seeing bo

798
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,640
Speaker 1: Knicks out there makes me feel better about my Courtland

799
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: Sutton shares. It makes me wish that maybe I had

800
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: drafted him a little bit more. Throwing the fact that

801
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: Tim Patrick had a really nice night against the Packers

802
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 1: last night, I just i' mean in on bon Nicks

803
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: in the sense that it makes me feel better about

804
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: everybody else in that Broncos offense. And look, and if

805
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: he does some things to give himself off his own

806
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 1: standalone quarterback fantasy value, great, But you know, I don't

807
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 1: know I am laquie of my nuts? Am I overthinking it? Is?

808
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,600
Speaker 1: It just a game against backups? And he happened to

809
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 1: look good?

810
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 2: Hey, we're nuts together, man, I'm all right, I'm in,

811
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm in. I'm all the way in. Just based on

812
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: how he's able to operate that offense. He's creating scoring drives,

813
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,880
Speaker 2: he's creating a lot more yards with his feet, and

814
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: he's taking the easy layup dump off passes and that's

815
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,800
Speaker 2: kind of what we want out of bow Knicks, and

816
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 2: that's always been in his game that gives you a

817
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 2: lot of upside with the running backs and the five

818
00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 2: running backs that are going to be rotating throughout there,

819
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: like they're all going to be catching passes, and like

820
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:38,879
Speaker 2: you said, Courtland Sutton have somebody that he could rely

821
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 2: on now to get him the ball in Sean Payton's way.

822
00:38:42,080 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 2: Like a happy Sean Payton is a happy Broncos offense.

823
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 2: I think bow Knicks, man, he really got the juice. Now,

824
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: I don't care it was against backups, and I just

825
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 2: feel like the kid has the instincts to actually run

826
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,919
Speaker 2: a NFL offense. So I'm in on bow Knicks as well.

827
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 3: One little under the radar thing with bo Knicks. I think,

828
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 3: uh thirty eight rushing touchdowns in college, Yes, as he

829
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 3: ran for over five hundred yards.

830
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,319
Speaker 1: That is an unsung thing, which you know, if that

831
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 1: turns into a thing in the NFL, then you know, hey,

832
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: we start moving bone Nicks up the ranks for sure.

833
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 1: Uh lakwan, what's the last thing you learned from this weekend?

834
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,239
Speaker 2: We're gonna stay in Denver, man, Dravonte Williams, Man, I

835
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 2: know that's your guy, Marcus.

836
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I might be.

837
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 1: In that ADP.

838
00:39:26,480 --> 00:39:28,879
Speaker 2: I mean looking at him, he looked really really good

839
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:31,920
Speaker 2: running the ball. I mean the one two punch between

840
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,719
Speaker 2: him and Jalia McLaughlin. I actually like it where it

841
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 2: makes sense to where it's like Davonte is still getting

842
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: involved in that pass a game, which gives you a

843
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: little bit more of that PPR UPSIDN and he's living

844
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:45,480
Speaker 2: and breathing where the Chase Browns that Ezekiel ellis are going.

845
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: This is like the seventh eighth round of where he's going.

846
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 2: If I can get him as my RB three on

847
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 2: a bow knicks offense that looks promising to go downfield

848
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 2: and create some scoring opportunities. This is what I'm about.

849
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 2: This is what I was a little bit worried about.

850
00:39:58,680 --> 00:40:01,360
Speaker 2: But the lack of playing time firm in preseason is

851
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: actually a good indication that he.

852
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 1: May be the guy. Yeah I was, you know, I

853
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: was not fully out, but I was starting to get

854
00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: kind of pessimistic about it. But what I've seen and

855
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: read from him or about him this this preseason has

856
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: made me, you know, kind of hold on a little

857
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:20,239
Speaker 1: bit and at ADP, I think it's fine. I think

858
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 1: what I've learned sort of like Florya, what you talk

859
00:40:22,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: about in Buffalo. Javonte Williams is the starter, He's the

860
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: lead running back. Julia McLoughlin is going to play, He's

861
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: going to He's going to get a lot of opportunity.

862
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: And it is looking it's looking more and more like

863
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: some I JP ryans the odd man out there.

864
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:39,359
Speaker 3: I think I think, uh, Javonte and McLoughlin are both

865
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:40,799
Speaker 3: good values that costs right now.

866
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:44,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, I don't know how to feel about

867
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 1: a drick estimate. I guess in deep deep leagues or

868
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,759
Speaker 1: dynasty leagues maybe yeah, but I don't I don't see

869
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:49,800
Speaker 1: in redraft leagues.

870
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 2: As if Williams gets hurt, and I think Audric will

871
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,920
Speaker 2: be called up as you know, the his or replacement,

872
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: But then it would definitely be Jalil McLoughlin's season.

873
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:01,200
Speaker 1: You know a lot of mcglofflin. H let's stay on

874
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,879
Speaker 1: the running back train, floyal, because you have an observation there.

875
00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, the Dolphins running back usage this weekend was interesting.

876
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 3: I put like on there. They've played one snap with

877
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 3: two a tongue of I looa one drive I'm sorry,

878
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 3: eighty two percent of the snaps on that one drive

879
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 3: and five carries win to Raheem Moster, eighteen percent of

880
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 3: the snaps and one carry went to Devon a Chan

881
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 3: and then, interestingly enough, they pulled Tua and Moster from

882
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 3: the game after that, and they left Devon a Chan

883
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 3: in for a bit.

884
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:33,959
Speaker 1: Now.

885
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,720
Speaker 3: I had a lot of different sides on this tweet

886
00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 3: tweeting me over the weekend, and the a Chan truthers

887
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,719
Speaker 3: are like, they only had three running backs suited up,

888
00:41:44,760 --> 00:41:47,919
Speaker 3: that's what this is about. Blah blah blah. Other people

889
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,279
Speaker 3: are like, this is insanely risky. I fall into the

890
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,279
Speaker 3: place of like, if you believe, if you want to

891
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 3: roll the dice on Devon a Chan in the second round.

892
00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:01,520
Speaker 3: I see the upside. I see the vision, but it's

893
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 3: too risky for my liking because Raheem Moster is clearly

894
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: not going away. They paid him this offseason, He's coming

895
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: off of a career year. Mike McDaniel and him have

896
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 3: a lot of history together. There's clearly trust there. And

897
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,880
Speaker 3: people are like, well A Chan was never gonna have

898
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 3: the backfield to himself. If he's not getting goal on work,

899
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:24,680
Speaker 3: that's scary. So I still see the upside with HM.

900
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 3: I would like him a whole lot more if he

901
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:28,279
Speaker 3: was going a little bit later in drafts, but most

902
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 3: where he's going right now seems like a screaming value.

903
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: I don't know if you got how you guys feel.

904
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,240
Speaker 3: There was a lot of AHN people saying this didn't matter,

905
00:42:36,320 --> 00:42:38,800
Speaker 3: but to me, I believe this does matter.

906
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: I have been on the Moster train this whole off season,

907
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: right and I liked that I saw Chan's ADP coming down.

908
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: I was starting to see him in the third round,

909
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: which seemed a little more reasonable to me. Which side note,

910
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,800
Speaker 1: it's also why I worry about jimior Gibbs at ADP,

911
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 1: because David Montgomery is still there. But to your point,

912
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: I've been big on Mostert the whole time because I

913
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 1: think even all things considered, even if both have a

914
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 1: little bit of regression, I think the production is going

915
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 1: to end up the same, and I can get Moster

916
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: for several rounds cheaper. So I have been there this

917
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:13,359
Speaker 1: whole time. I'm not gonna try to read too much

918
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 1: into the usage. Maybe it was the whole few running backs,

919
00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: you know, three running backs suited up, what have you,

920
00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 1: and they just wanted to get him some work. But

921
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,319
Speaker 1: either way, it doesn't change how I feel about Rahiem Mostert.

922
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:26,760
Speaker 1: I think you know, obviously he had a career season,

923
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 1: had a magical season last year. But this is a

924
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: guy who, even though he's thirty one, doesn't have a

925
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: lot of tread on the tires, spent a lot of

926
00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:37,359
Speaker 1: time as a backup not playing, has been great every

927
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:40,120
Speaker 1: year that he's been in Miami. And this Mike McDaniel offense.

928
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,879
Speaker 1: Like I said, Okay, maybe he doesn't score twenty one

929
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: touchdowns this year, I still think he gets you double digits.

930
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 1: Maybe he can get you fifteen. I think he's going

931
00:43:47,239 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: to get the ball a lot. I'm very much Okay, mostly.

932
00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: We already know my opinion on this. I mean, obviously

933
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,880
Speaker 2: I'm fading a chan as much as I can because

934
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,160
Speaker 2: of all the reasons we just down and explain. It

935
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 2: does not make sense. He must start, needs to be

936
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: on your rosters if he's gonna be going that late

937
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 2: in drafts.

938
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure. My last takeaway, and this is again

939
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: from watching the Raiders this weekend, there might be room

940
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,600
Speaker 1: for two tight ends in this offense. Saw a lot.

941
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 1: They didn't run a lot of two tight end sets,

942
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: but they did rotate guys in there. Saw Harrison Bryant.

943
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 1: We saw a little bit of Michael Mayer early in

944
00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: that game. We saw a lot of guys getting opportunities

945
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: in this offense. Now, how Luke Getzy decides to roll

946
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: them out, you know, we'll see. Never before, though, has

947
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 1: he had two guys who can be dynamic pass catchers

948
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: like he has with Brock Bauers and Michael Mayer. So

949
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: maybe he does experiment with some more two tight end sets,

950
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: But either way, it does seem like they're going to

951
00:44:47,120 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: get those guys on the field as much as possible,

952
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 1: get them out into routes. Plus, I think Luke Getzi

953
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: has done really really well is find a way to

954
00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: get his tight ends into the end zone. So even

955
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: if they aren't necessarily catching passes and we're racking up

956
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: a ton of yards, if they become weapons in the

957
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: red zone, that means they're going to have some options.

958
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: And I think especially if you're talking if you're still

959
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: drafting Best Ball teams, or even if you're somebody who

960
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: just wants to stream a tight end, I think that's

961
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 1: going to mean you know, Mayor's going to have some options.

962
00:45:13,600 --> 00:45:15,760
Speaker 1: We know that Brock Bowers is going to get drafted

963
00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:18,399
Speaker 1: in a lot of situations, so I'm starting to kind

964
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 1: of buy in. I was, you know, I still would

965
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: prefer they were both on different teams and they didn't

966
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 1: have to compete with one another for opportunities, but it

967
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 1: is what it is. I mean, I look, Michael Mayer

968
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: had four targets, Harrison Bryant had five that each had

969
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:33,959
Speaker 1: three catches. That's, you know, in a game where Brock

970
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: Bowers didn't even suit up. I think I think there's

971
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,560
Speaker 1: a an argument to be made that both guys can

972
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:39,520
Speaker 1: can eat this year.

973
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,560
Speaker 3: We saw last week when Bowers did play like they

974
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 3: used them a traditional tight end a bit. He played

975
00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 3: out wide in the slot, in the backfield. I think

976
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,239
Speaker 3: when they're getting creative with him like that, Mayor is

977
00:45:50,320 --> 00:45:51,719
Speaker 3: just the traditional tight end.

978
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, Bowers is athletic enough that he could

979
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 1: do a lot of different things, and so you don't

980
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: have to use him like a traditional tight end. So

981
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 1: then you use me is your inline guy, and everybody's

982
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 1: happy at least exactly hopefully, all right. So that's the

983
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: things that we took away from the weekend. Now we're

984
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: gonna sort of put some of our talk into action

985
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: and talk about some ADP guys. That's have to we

986
00:46:12,840 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: come back after this break on the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

987
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: All right, so obviously we have some takeaways from what

988
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 1: we saw over the weekend. So now how do we

989
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 1: apply this to our drafting lives? Some ADP movers, So

990
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: go to eat you guys, one guy, maybe one or

991
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: two guys. You're moving up, one or two guys you

992
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 1: were moving down, Lakwan, I will start with you.

993
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 2: So there was a lot of action over the weekend.

994
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:44,800
Speaker 2: So I unfortunately had to watch the Saints and forty

995
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,839
Speaker 2: nine ers that came down to that game, and.

996
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:50,680
Speaker 1: You didn't have to. I mean I was Hackers and

997
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: Broncos were on at the same time. You're gonna watch that.

998
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 2: It was on the network. But I wanted to watch

999
00:46:57,600 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason. Okay, but he didn't suit up. But it's fine.

1000
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 2: That's a good indication they're going to play it cautious

1001
00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 2: with him. So I moved him up a little bit

1002
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 2: from the watch list to being a drafted player on

1003
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:13,759
Speaker 2: that eight bench team. Now here is my logic here,

1004
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 2: because we already looked at CMC as a guy that's untouchable.

1005
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:20,640
Speaker 2: He is superman, He's this he's that, but Kyle Shanahan

1006
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 2: has been hinting at taking some of these touches back

1007
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:27,280
Speaker 2: because I look back to how is Christian McCaffrey exited

1008
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 2: his way out of Carolina. I mean back to back

1009
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 2: seasons man injuries at their injury and he is coming

1010
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 2: off of those two injuries in Carolina of playing ninety

1011
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: six percent of the snap opportunities. That is not sustainable

1012
00:47:40,880 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 2: for the age that he's at. So this one two

1013
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,759
Speaker 2: punch may be more likely this season than it was

1014
00:47:45,880 --> 00:47:48,240
Speaker 2: last season because I kind of think they were Super

1015
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: Bowl Chase and they kind of were just like, know

1016
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:53,120
Speaker 2: what if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Now we

1017
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 2: got Christian McCaffrey dealing with injuries coming into the season,

1018
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 2: Jordan Mason minor injury but nothing two serious. But he

1019
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:03,440
Speaker 2: is the most capable running back behind Christian McCaffrey. They

1020
00:48:03,440 --> 00:48:05,480
Speaker 2: can get the job done. So he's moved up from

1021
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,040
Speaker 2: the watch list to you need to be drafting as

1022
00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 2: your last pick in He's redraft for the rest of the.

1023
00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,440
Speaker 1: Summer, all right, I mean, I mean I'm in on

1024
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: Jordan basics. I think I think you know they've tried

1025
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:17,400
Speaker 1: with Elijah Mitchell. I think he's sort of getting demoted

1026
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 1: within the context of the offense. It's unfortunate, man, Yeah,

1027
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: I mean it happens, and so Mason is the guy

1028
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 1: who kind of slides into that spot. Who are you

1029
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:25,400
Speaker 1: moving up? Florio?

1030
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 3: We spoke about some like I'm moving up all the Chiefs,

1031
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: Wad Receivers, Roma Dunza, stuff like that. But to me,

1032
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 3: I think the biggest movers I'm gonna do a ranking

1033
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 3: update later today are like the lower end guys like

1034
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 3: I had Troy Franklin and Marvin Mims as like late

1035
00:48:41,960 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 3: round dart throws, but they're they're now non existent pretty

1036
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:47,720
Speaker 3: much in this offense. And it's Tim Patrick that looks

1037
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,920
Speaker 3: like the wide receiver too. I had Roman Wilson ranked

1038
00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,560
Speaker 3: as like a late round upside shot, but Van Jefferson

1039
00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 3: clearly looks like the number two wide receiver there in Pittsburgh.

1040
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:00,400
Speaker 3: So it's a lot of to me, not so much.

1041
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 3: The high end guys are changing, although there will be

1042
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,759
Speaker 3: some tinkering with what we see, like I'm in the

1043
00:49:05,840 --> 00:49:09,319
Speaker 3: lowers of mere White a little bit after what we've

1044
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 3: seen so far out of him. But it's the lower

1045
00:49:12,280 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 3: end guys, the guys that we're targeting in the later

1046
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: rounds because it seems like we're getting a much better

1047
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 3: sense of who the secondary options are in offenses in

1048
00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,680
Speaker 3: the preseason right now.

1049
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you, especially on the receiver spot. Right

1050
00:49:25,480 --> 00:49:27,760
Speaker 1: we talked about moving Romo Dunze up and me sliding

1051
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen down two games. Allen's been out there a

1052
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 1: fair amount. He's got one target, no catches, you know, look,

1053
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,719
Speaker 1: and it's not gonna be that way all year. But

1054
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: it does seem like Caleb Williams is starting to pick

1055
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,839
Speaker 1: favorites and he loves Romo Dunze and he likes DJ Moore,

1056
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: and so that makes me a little bit worried about

1057
00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: what we're gonna see from Keenan Allen this year. We

1058
00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:49,120
Speaker 1: talked about Tim Patrick. He's another one that's like, it's

1059
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: nice to see him back on the field and healthy

1060
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: again after a really tough last couple of years, and

1061
00:49:54,400 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 1: so it does seem like he and bo Nicks are

1062
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: starting to work some things together. I still like Courtland Sutton.

1063
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: I just again, like I said, the bon Nicks. What

1064
00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:04,760
Speaker 1: I've seen of bon Knicks makes me feel better about

1065
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: Suttons as the number one option, which, by the way,

1066
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,560
Speaker 1: if you were watching the Broncos game, you could have

1067
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:14,440
Speaker 1: heard our palace Cynthia Freeland doing some sideline. See she

1068
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,920
Speaker 1: threw a little nugget in there about Greg Dulcic is

1069
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: maybe a name that fantasy managers need to keep an

1070
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: eye on. I like Dulcage coming out of UCLA. I

1071
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: know he was hurt to start his rookie season, but

1072
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:28,919
Speaker 1: once he got on the field was immediately a part

1073
00:50:28,920 --> 00:50:32,000
Speaker 1: of that offense. Mind you, that was with Nathaniel Hackett,

1074
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,280
Speaker 1: but it does seem like maybe Sean Payton is starting

1075
00:50:34,280 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: to work him in a little bit, so there's reason

1076
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: to be excited about about that as well. Look, I

1077
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,680
Speaker 1: know the Patriots have a lot of issues, but I

1078
00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,520
Speaker 1: am starting to get excited about Javon Baker as well.

1079
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 1: Just a lot of them. They're going his way a

1080
00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,839
Speaker 1: lot now. Eventually, hopefully they start to connect on some

1081
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 1: of those throws. But it's obvious that they want to

1082
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,759
Speaker 1: get him heavily involved in the passing game. So I'm

1083
00:50:58,760 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: starting to buy in on Javon.

1084
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:02,040
Speaker 2: He's gonna be their big playmaker man. Because there were

1085
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: some of those balls where I'm like oh he almost caught.

1086
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 2: Would have been a highlight reel for the rest of

1087
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:07,760
Speaker 2: the summer.

1088
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: The Alligator armed that one. I was like, come on,

1089
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 3: if you just extend. But speaking of the Patriots, like

1090
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,439
Speaker 3: I love, kind of love what they're doing. They're being

1091
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 3: like Mario Douglas, kJ Osborne, you guys are gonna play

1092
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 3: with Jakobe Brissett, Polk and Baker, You're gonna play with

1093
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:26,160
Speaker 3: with May. And I expect when May takes over, we'll

1094
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 3: see those two rookie wide receivers take over. And yeah,

1095
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 3: a third of May's passes the other day went to

1096
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 3: Javon Baker, So I already had a lot of him

1097
00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 3: and I'm still gonna keep loading up on him.

1098
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,680
Speaker 1: Oh by the way, also also I forgot to mention

1099
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:45,080
Speaker 1: back in on him too, because what's wild is this

1100
00:51:45,080 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 1: this time last week, all the reports where he could

1101
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: get cut and then he goes out one beat reporter.

1102
00:51:52,120 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 4: That's the thing about this time here, Like this guy

1103
00:51:55,280 --> 00:51:58,320
Speaker 4: was like head week of practice, he's not making the team.

1104
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 4: And then I read that exact order who was like

1105
00:52:00,800 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 4: he had a great week of practice and look good

1106
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 4: in preseason, so now he's clearly making Like sometimes I

1107
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:08,440
Speaker 4: think we take too much stock in what these people

1108
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:08,840
Speaker 4: are saying.

1109
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I'm using my eyes for this guy. This

1110
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 2: guy can ball, That's about it.

1111
00:52:14,360 --> 00:52:16,399
Speaker 1: It's wild because I was drafting a lot of him

1112
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:18,120
Speaker 1: early and then I'm like, oh crap, I'm gonna be

1113
00:52:18,160 --> 00:52:21,160
Speaker 1: stuck with all this Kamani Doll on these bastball rosters

1114
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: and he's not gonna be there. And now it's like, yeah,

1115
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: I'm backing again, Like everything's great.

1116
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 3: So but I will say in the Flex League the

1117
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 3: other day, my last round pick, I was like, Jermaine

1118
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 3: Burton the doll and I needed wide receiver. But because

1119
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:35,680
Speaker 3: of that report, I was like, you know what, let

1120
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 3: me go with my guy, Jermaine Burton, and I've.

1121
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, but it was it was very encouraging to

1122
00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: see what he did over the week. For sure. Look,

1123
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: I know it doesn't mean anything, but man, like you

1124
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: guys just just throwing stetson Bennett to the Wolves this preseason.

1125
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,320
Speaker 1: Hey man, get those reps, young players.

1126
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 2: But I'm loving what he's doing out there, man, and

1127
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:04,120
Speaker 2: it shows promising to be a third interceptions. Hey he

1128
00:53:04,200 --> 00:53:05,120
Speaker 2: got this.

1129
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 1: This weekend was better. This weekend was better.

1130
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:10,080
Speaker 3: Sure, I did love that he threw four interceptions and

1131
00:53:10,080 --> 00:53:12,480
Speaker 3: then the game winning touchdown game he does his win.

1132
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,879
Speaker 1: That's it, just win.

1133
00:53:17,560 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 2: Jordan Jordan Winnington is developing nice with him too. Man.

1134
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:23,280
Speaker 2: So like all these young guys, I mean, Trey Tucker,

1135
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:27,279
Speaker 2: Jordan Winnington, I mean, these guys are showing up a lot,

1136
00:53:27,360 --> 00:53:30,439
Speaker 2: man to watch lists. I'm on the watch list.

1137
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,399
Speaker 1: There it is there. He mentioned Tray Tucker. Uh watching

1138
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,520
Speaker 1: the Raiders a little bit. Trey Tucker, DJ Turner had

1139
00:53:37,560 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 1: some good weekends too for the Raiders. For whatever. Look,

1140
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:45,439
Speaker 1: I get it, they got Washington, the Adams, they got

1141
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:47,399
Speaker 1: you know, Jacoby Meer's gonna be hard to break through.

1142
00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,400
Speaker 1: But there there are some some guys who are playing really,

1143
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,920
Speaker 1: really well this preseason, and it's it's worth giving those

1144
00:53:51,920 --> 00:53:53,600
Speaker 1: guys a shout out for what they've done so far

1145
00:53:53,600 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 1: in the preseason. All Right, that's it for this edition

1146
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. We are going to

1147
00:53:59,880 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: be back with you on Wednesday. We are efforting a guest.

1148
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:08,720
Speaker 1: I will leave it that we are efforting a guest.

1149
00:54:08,960 --> 00:54:11,080
Speaker 1: If it doesn't happen on Wednesday, hopefully it happens during

1150
00:54:11,120 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 1: the season. Should be a lot of fun. If it happens.

1151
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: When it does, we will for sure let you know.

1152
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 1: But other than that, we will certainly be back with

1153
00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 1: you later on this week, so that I'll do it

1154
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,959
Speaker 1: for this edition of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast. They happy,

1155
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: safe and healthy, do good and live well. Enjoy the

1156
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:27,719
Speaker 1: last couple of days. Everybody, next couple of days, last

1157
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,880
Speaker 1: couple of days, whatever, Be safe, be good, be healthy.

1158
00:54:31,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I will talk to you on Wednesday.