1 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: Hey everybody, and welcome to another edition of the Dave 2 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: Pash Podcast. I'm your host ESPN and Arizona Cardinals play 3 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: by play announcer Dave Pash. My guest this week is 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: ESPN star Laura Rutledge. Laura is involved with just about 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,960 Speaker 1: everything at ESPN. She hosts NFL Live, she does sideline 6 00:00:18,960 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: for Monday Night Football, she hosts SEC Nation on Saturday. 7 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:26,319 Speaker 1: She's one of the nicest and most talented people in 8 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:29,680 Speaker 1: the broadcasting business. We are going to cover a lot 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: with Laura. We're going to talk about her schedule, about 10 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:36,559 Speaker 1: balancing work with being a mom to two children and 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,959 Speaker 1: being a wife, and of course we'll talk Arizona Cardinals. 12 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,560 Speaker 1: We'll get her thoughts on what the Cardinals have done 13 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 1: the last three games and how the Cardinals have become 14 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:49,519 Speaker 1: a favorite on NFL Live, and her thoughts on quarterback Kyler. 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,600 Speaker 2: Murray Kyler is as the kids say, in his back. 16 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:54,920 Speaker 2: I mean, he's looked great. He's one of the most 17 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 2: dynamic playakers in the NFL. So when that's really working, 18 00:00:58,240 --> 00:01:00,279 Speaker 2: I think we're going to continue to see a lot 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 2: more success. 20 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 1: We'll also talk James Connor Cardinals defense and Buddha Baker, 21 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: who's become another favorite of the crew on NFL Live. 22 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: We are presented by Heila River Resorts and Casinos. Turn 23 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,320 Speaker 1: up the Heat in the Valley with the Arizona Cardinals 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: fandom card by Heila River Resorts and Casinos. All right, 25 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 1: time now for our conversation with ESPN's Laura Rutledge. Well, Laura, 26 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: you are the third member of the NFL Live crew 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: to come on this podcast that I've had Spears and 28 00:01:30,800 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: Mina on. I don't want Orlowsky on at some point 29 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: them they'll be last. You. I had followed on a 30 00:01:40,160 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. We were kind of going through 31 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,440 Speaker 1: his schedule and I know people are curious because you 32 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: do so many different things. What is a week in 33 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: the life of Laura Rutledge? Like maybe this week specifically 34 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: since you had a Monday night game. 35 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:58,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's this is a good week to kind of 36 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: give the full spectrum. And Dave, I know you can 37 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 2: relate to this, you know, doing so much that you 38 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:03,240 Speaker 2: do as well. 39 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, so this week, Monday. 40 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:10,360 Speaker 2: Night, we were in Kansas City, So I actually to 41 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 2: backtrack slightly, I went directly there from SEC Nation, which 42 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:17,839 Speaker 2: was in Jacksonville, But anyway there on Monday night, did 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 2: NFL Live from there, did the game, and then uh 44 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,200 Speaker 2: five point fifty am flight through d C back to 45 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 2: Bradley Airport here in Connecticut, and then came straight to 46 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 2: the studio because we had a trade deadline special. So 47 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,680 Speaker 2: it was a two hour show yesterday for the trade deadline. 48 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: And then today is just like a normal day. Got 49 00:02:38,760 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: to take my daughter Reese to school and hang out 50 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: with my son Jack in the morning and then coming 51 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,679 Speaker 2: here to do NFL Live today. I'll do the same 52 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: thing tomorrow and then Friday morning, you know, early flight 53 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: to Oxford, Mississippi for SEC Nation. We're there for the 54 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:57,960 Speaker 2: Ole Miss Georgia game, and I'll do that and then 55 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: actually don't have Monday night football this coming week, so 56 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: I will get to go home on Saturday night. So 57 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: it's hard to get I know this may surprise some people, 58 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,640 Speaker 2: It's hard to get from Oxford back to Connecticut. So 59 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: I've got like I'm going Memphis through somewhere to fly in, 60 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 2: so I won't get back till you know, like eight 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 2: thirty Saturday night. But it is a total gift to 62 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:20,680 Speaker 2: have a Sunday at home it'll be great. 63 00:03:21,160 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and I can relate with the people ask 64 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 1: me all the time, well how did you get here? 65 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,920 Speaker 1: Because I've got La for NBA, I go to Knoxville 66 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: further that game Saturday night, and then got to get 67 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: Nashville to fly back to Arizona Sunday morning for Cardinals Jets. 68 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: So it's a puzzle piece when it comes to travel. 69 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: And I know you you obviously are a family woman, 70 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 1: and you mentioned your kids. How do you balance a 71 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: wife and a mom to two working as much as 72 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: you do, I'm sure you get asset a lot. 73 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean the real MVP there is my husband Josh, 74 00:03:56,960 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 2: who just holds it down so well at home, and 75 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 2: you know, it's this time of year is certainly the 76 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 2: craziest NFL lives a year round show, but a lot 77 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 2: of times in the off season I'm at home, you know, 78 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,240 Speaker 2: and the schedule is great because I can be there 79 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:14,080 Speaker 2: when they wake up and for breakfast and you know, 80 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:16,840 Speaker 2: getting them to school and all that. And then during 81 00:04:16,839 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: this time of year, I'm just hoping that anytime I'm 82 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 2: with them, I'm present with them, I'm focused on them. 83 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 2: I'm sitting on the ground with them and talking directly 84 00:04:25,920 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 2: to them and all those things, and I don't always 85 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: nail that, and I beat myself up over it all 86 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 2: the time. 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 3: And then when I'm at work, you know, I try. 88 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,720 Speaker 2: To be as engaged with what I'm doing here and 89 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 2: really focus on that. And so I think it's just 90 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 2: it's giving yourself some grace and then finding ways to 91 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: really make whatever time you're spending with your kids and 92 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,040 Speaker 2: your spouse at home really count. It's pretty funny, like 93 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 2: Josh and I have started a thing sometimes on Thursday mornings, 94 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 2: we have like a little breather moment and we'll go, 95 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:57,240 Speaker 2: like just get coffee together after we drop reesoff and 96 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 2: Jack's taking a nap. 97 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 3: You know, there's a babysit there. He's not not just 98 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: like sleeping her at all, you know, but just any. 99 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,719 Speaker 2: Any little opportunity to like get some time to connect 100 00:05:09,800 --> 00:05:11,680 Speaker 2: is fun and just like checking on each other, like, hey, 101 00:05:11,680 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 2: how you do it? 102 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 3: You know, because you know how it goes. 103 00:05:14,040 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 2: Sometimes you get end up like ships passing in the night, 104 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:17,680 Speaker 2: trying to manage all this. 105 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,120 Speaker 1: So obviously Jack, we don't know yet if he's going 106 00:05:21,200 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: to be a future broadcaster, but it seems like Reese 107 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: is headed that way just given how yah know you 108 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: were on fine Bomb, and I guess there was a 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 1: caller who was not real happy with either picks or 110 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,279 Speaker 1: just the fact that Reese is making picks on social media? 111 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: Can you elaborate? 112 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 2: So this guy Jim from Tuscalousa Dave, I have to 113 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:45,080 Speaker 2: tell you I have known him for years now. I've 114 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 2: never met him because nobody's ever seen him because apparently 115 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: he's older than he wants people to know that he is. 116 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:52,240 Speaker 3: I don't know, there's some whole thing with that. 117 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: But back in the day, you know, I used to 118 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: spend hours with Paul Finebaum on his show, and so 119 00:05:58,680 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 2: I really got to know a lot of the call 120 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: and it was a lovely thing that Paul did for 121 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 2: me in the earlier part of my career and just 122 00:06:04,360 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 2: giving me that platform, giving me the opportunity to, i think, 123 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: develop credibility amongst people and also kind of like show 124 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 2: that I can have a lot of fun and I'm 125 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: not going to take things too seriously when people are 126 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 2: coming at you. I mean, you know, that collar base 127 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 2: is something special. And so Jim would attack me then 128 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 2: at times, but then he kind of backed off a 129 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 2: little bit, so anyway, he's back on the attack mode 130 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 2: with me, and his real gripe was that he thinks 131 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: it's annoying. He liked it when it was just Reese, 132 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 2: but he doesn't like Jack for some reason. So I 133 00:06:37,480 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 2: think it's really baby Jack that's in his crosshairs, which 134 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 2: I don't know, like I'm biased, but this guy is 135 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:45,279 Speaker 2: the cutest little guy. I don't know like what his 136 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: problem is. But yeah, he came at us and then 137 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 2: but then he backed off big time and he told 138 00:06:51,520 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 2: me that it was really fine bond that he was 139 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 2: mad about. So so Paul's like, great, So now it's 140 00:06:56,320 --> 00:06:58,080 Speaker 2: all on me, like how did this happen? 141 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,040 Speaker 3: But I don't know. 142 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: My thing always I never think that I have fans 143 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: or I don't know. 144 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 3: That seems like ridiculous to me. 145 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:08,359 Speaker 2: But if people want to talk to us, you know, 146 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 2: and I know you, I'm sure you have a lot 147 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 2: of people that come up and want to talk to you. 148 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 3: I always love that. 149 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 2: I love that interaction like there, even if it's negative, 150 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, I love hearing from people that I love 151 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,240 Speaker 2: kind of trying to explain like where I'm coming from 152 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: and why I would do something that people didn't like. 153 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 2: Or whatever it is, So I would chalk that one 154 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: up to ultimately a win. 155 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:32,080 Speaker 3: It was good. It was good to talk about with Jim. 156 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: Well I, wh I said, if you can't get along 157 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 1: with Laura Retledge, you're the problem because and I think 158 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,400 Speaker 1: you mentioned that, you don't take yourself seriously and you 159 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: like people. You're just a cool person. I met you 160 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: a decade ago before your career skyrocket, and you were 161 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 1: doing sideline on a college football game, and you were 162 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: awesome then and you're still awesome, and everybody feels the 163 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: same way. You're one of the easiest people to get 164 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: along with. And I think that's why you're so relatable, 165 00:07:56,440 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 1: because people like the whole thing with the wardrobe and 166 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 1: maybe you can elaborate. So there was one month night 167 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: on Monday at football and then there was another one 168 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: earlier this year at the OU Texas game, and there 169 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: were two different wardrobe mishaps. 170 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,840 Speaker 3: I literally, I shouldn't be trusted like wearing. 171 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 2: So it's funny because I'm wearing, uh, what I'm gonna 172 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 2: wear on NFL Live and I'm just waiting to see 173 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 2: what I'm gonna spill on this or like if something's 174 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: gonna rip or I don't know, but yeah. So the 175 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 2: OU Texas game was actually pretty funny. We had done 176 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 2: sec Nation from the State Fair of Texas, and then 177 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: I was doing the game, so I needed to get 178 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,600 Speaker 2: into the stadium and I started looking around at funny enough, 179 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 2: I was also doing Jets calls for Monday Night Football, 180 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: so I'd finished the show and then we then I 181 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 2: needed to do these calls, and then I was going. 182 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 3: To go to the game. 183 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: But during that time, I realized, I'm like, Kelly, it's 184 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 2: getting really crowded here and I've got to get into 185 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:56,079 Speaker 2: the stadium somehow, and we're kind of far from the stadium, 186 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 2: so I start walking because I'm thinking I need to 187 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:01,040 Speaker 2: just get in there, you know, And I'm by myself, 188 00:09:01,080 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 2: and I got I got this like big old Duffel 189 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 2: bag of nonsense. 190 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 3: I don't even need any of this stuff. 191 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't know what I'm doing, but I had to 192 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 2: take it with me, and I'm like trying to get 193 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:12,440 Speaker 2: through the crowd, and it was a disaster, and so 194 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 2: this fan did not mean to but spilled just a 195 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 2: whole bunch. 196 00:09:16,040 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: Of beer all down my shirt. 197 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 2: And I was wearing a white shirt, so it was 198 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: it was not It was not a good choice by me, Like, really, 199 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 2: that was. 200 00:09:24,040 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 3: Party foul on me. 201 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:28,000 Speaker 2: I should have been wearing a color that wasn't gonna, 202 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:31,160 Speaker 2: you know, show beer stains. So it was like beer. 203 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:32,640 Speaker 2: But then somebody else I don't know if it was 204 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,120 Speaker 2: nacho cheese or something like. I was just in the crowd, 205 00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 2: so I was getting all this stuff spilled, and finally 206 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 2: I was like, well, I don't have anything else to wear, 207 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 2: so we're just gonna have to wear this. 208 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: So that was the number one. 209 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,080 Speaker 2: And then the other night, on Monday Night football, I 210 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:48,079 Speaker 2: was wearing, you know, tights cause it was cold, and 211 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:48,959 Speaker 2: I looked. 212 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 3: Down halfway through the show. 213 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,800 Speaker 2: This camera guy was trying to tell me something like 214 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: he's pointing up my leg, and I'm like, what's he 215 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:57,400 Speaker 2: talking about? You know, I look down there's this massive 216 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,720 Speaker 2: hole like my tights had ripped. I don't know when 217 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: that happened or why it happened. So then all night 218 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 2: I got these rip tights. I'm looking like, you know, 219 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 2: a rag a muffin out there. My mom is mortified, 220 00:10:09,600 --> 00:10:11,119 Speaker 2: my grandma's probably mortified. 221 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,439 Speaker 3: So I don't know what are you gonna do. I'm 222 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:15,080 Speaker 3: a mess. 223 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 1: But the fact you handle it the way you do, 224 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 1: I think is what what makes people watch you and 225 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: like you, because you're so relatable, You're so related. 226 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:24,840 Speaker 3: Well, you're so kind. 227 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 2: And I got to say, thinking back to when I 228 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,680 Speaker 2: got to work with you guys on that crew years ago, 229 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 2: we went to waffle house. It was like the big 230 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: tradition that you guys had, which I loved and I 231 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 2: was just I have always talked about that. It was 232 00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: such a big opportunity for me and everybody on the crew, 233 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 2: but you leading the charge there were so welcoming, so kind, 234 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: so receptive of you know, anything that I was bringing 235 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 2: to the table, and I was so nervous. And it's 236 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 2: just so nice to know that there are people out 237 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 2: there like you. You being a great example of this 238 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 2: that will always extend that to people and it goes 239 00:10:58,000 --> 00:10:58,679 Speaker 2: such a long way. 240 00:10:58,760 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: Dave, Well, it was clear that we all knew that 241 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: you were destined for big things. I two years ago 242 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: we did the Las Vegas Bowl together. I just and 243 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: it was so interesting because I was in the booth 244 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:12,920 Speaker 1: with Kirk. 245 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 3: And hat Yeah, that's right. 246 00:11:16,559 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 1: Well, from I enjoyed it. It was fun. It was different. 247 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I've worked with a lot of different analysts, 248 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: a lot of personalities. Obviously McAfee is very unique. Do 249 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: you hear anything specific about that day? 250 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 2: So, yes, I thought you did such a good job 251 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 2: with them, by the way, because that was really before 252 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,680 Speaker 2: like he was doing some things, but he wasn't doing 253 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,560 Speaker 2: obviously the level that he's doing now on ESPN. And 254 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: the thing I remember most is pregame. I think you 255 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: were down there for some of this too, like all 256 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: the players were going up to him and talking to him. 257 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 2: Remember he had that gold jacket on. It was like 258 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 2: it was like so it was so like ornate. 259 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: And for Vegas, you know. 260 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: But but yeah, I remember I remember thinking, wow, you know, 261 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: he's got such a presence with this younger crowd, and 262 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 2: certainly he does so really fun but I mean goodness, 263 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 2: like he was so nice about everything, which which I'm 264 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: sure you experienced as well. 265 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he was. He was fantastic. I really enjoyed it. 266 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:21,520 Speaker 1: One more broadcasting question that I do want to talk 267 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: a little Cardinals before we let you go, But was 268 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: there ever a time when you got to ESPN or 269 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:30,920 Speaker 1: maybe even before that, you were in such a competitive business. 270 00:12:31,360 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: It's a subjective business. It's a business where timing matters. 271 00:12:36,559 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 1: I want to say it's show business, but it is 272 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,400 Speaker 1: in some ways like Hollywood, where who you know matters, 273 00:12:42,520 --> 00:12:46,760 Speaker 1: timing matters. There's so many good people sometimes it's hard 274 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,120 Speaker 1: to stand out. Was there ever a time you were 275 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: concerned about whether you would get to do what you 276 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: wanted to do in this business? 277 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 3: Oh? My goodness, so many times. 278 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: I mean, And I tried to share this with anybody 279 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 2: that I mentor or young people that I meet, you know, 280 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: that want to do this. Like I feel like the 281 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 2: story of a lot of people who have any sort 282 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 2: of success in this business is that most of the 283 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: doors are closed, and it really is about taking that 284 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:18,640 Speaker 2: closed door and finding an open window that you can 285 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 2: go through or whatever it may be. I mean, and 286 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: it's just going to be, I think a lot of times, 287 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:25,319 Speaker 2: not the path that you thought it would be. 288 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 3: So yes, there were so many times. 289 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 2: There was actually my second year at SEC Network, So 290 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: I got hired when the network launched in twenty fourteen, 291 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: and I was twenty five years old. The second year, 292 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 2: you know, I had had a lot of experience. I 293 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: was doing baseball, so I did a ton of games. 294 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: I needed a lot of work, but I was. I 295 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 2: had a lot of experience for that age, right, So 296 00:13:47,040 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 2: I'm thinking, Okay, I'm going to take a chance on 297 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: this SEC Network job, which was a major pay cut 298 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 2: from what I was doing at Fox at that time 299 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:56,480 Speaker 2: and a totally different opportunity. 300 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 3: But I wanted to take that leap of faith. 301 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: And anyway, after the first year, you know, it was 302 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:04,560 Speaker 2: such a small contract, and it came back to me 303 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 2: and they're like, yeah, I mean you're kind of like dispensable. 304 00:14:08,559 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 2: We don't really I'm not gonna name names, but this 305 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:13,439 Speaker 2: this was the feedback, like we don't really know what 306 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,240 Speaker 2: the path is and all that. And I remember thinking like, wow, 307 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,280 Speaker 2: I sat here and grinded it out. You know, I 308 00:14:19,320 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 2: did all of these different sports. I did anything that 309 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: they asked, right and and but yet I took it 310 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 2: after being angry for a couple of days, and I thought, Okay, 311 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: so I didn't do enough. So so what am I 312 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,320 Speaker 2: gonna do that's gonna make me stand out? 313 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 3: You know in the year in the year to. 314 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 2: Come, and I stayed on the same football package that year, 315 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,960 Speaker 2: didn't get promoted when other people did, you know, So 316 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: I had I had a struggle that year specifically that 317 00:14:43,760 --> 00:14:46,280 Speaker 2: I think I've referenced a lot since in my own 318 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 2: brain and the way that I've looked at it. 319 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: I don't know if I've ever talked about it, but. 320 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 2: I realized that I was truly comparing myself to others 321 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 2: and that was how I was approaching everything, and and 322 00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: the quote comparison is thief of joy could never be 323 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: more true. 324 00:15:02,720 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 3: It was. Really, it finally. 325 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 2: Clicked to me, like, Wow, if I could just instead 326 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: be happy for other people, continue to work really hard, 327 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: be happy for other people's success, know that maybe mine 328 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: is coming, or you hope that it's coming, try not 329 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: to live in self doubt all the time. I thought, 330 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 2: let me try to have an attitude change and see 331 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,280 Speaker 2: what happens. And really, looking back, that was kind of 332 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:28,160 Speaker 2: a turning point in my career where the progress was 333 00:15:28,200 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: still slow, but there was progress, and I started to 334 00:15:31,480 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 2: see things happening, and I thought, Okay, you know, I 335 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 2: would have never in a million years imagined the blessings 336 00:15:38,280 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 2: that have come since. I couldn't have fathomed it in 337 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:46,040 Speaker 2: my wildest dreams, so I wouldn't say that. I thought, Okay, 338 00:15:46,080 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 2: if I do all this, I'm going to be you know, 339 00:15:48,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 2: have the chance to be on Monday Night footballer. I 340 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: mean that wasn't even in my vision going forward, but 341 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: it was more just seeing progress. And I think the 342 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 2: biggest difference was really being happy for other people and 343 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 2: their say success, and not comparing myself to them all 344 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: the time. 345 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: And it's so easy in this business to do that, right, 346 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: there's only one lead job for mini football, or hosting 347 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: NFL Live or SEC Nation or doing the NBA Finals 348 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:22,560 Speaker 1: or you know, being the voice, being the lead person 349 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: on the Sports Center at six p. I mean, there's 350 00:16:24,480 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 1: only so few of these jobs. And a conversation I 351 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: have a lot with former players and coaches to get 352 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: into this business is sometimes they're like, well, I think 353 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: I should be doing this, and I'm like, well, it's 354 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: not like playing sports. The best players don't always play. 355 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: It is a different business. What are the discussions on 356 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: your show on NFL. I've been about the Cardinals three 357 00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 1: straight wins, five and four Jets coming this week. What 358 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: are the conversations been like on the air. 359 00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 2: Well, I'm not just saying this is played of the crowd, 360 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:01,480 Speaker 2: but we really like the card and we've been impressed, 361 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 2: you know, early on, as you guys I'm sure have 362 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 2: talked about we felt like Marvin Harrison Junior wasn't involved 363 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 2: enough in the offense, and then now kind of seeing 364 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 2: him become more of a go to target has been fun. 365 00:17:12,720 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 3: But I think Kyler is as the kids say in 366 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 3: his back. 367 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: I mean, he's looked great, and when that offense is 368 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 2: truly going through him, I mean he's the most dynamic 369 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 2: playmaker that the Cardinals have offensively, right, but he's one 370 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 2: of the most dynamic playmakers in the NFL. So when 371 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: that's really working, I think we're going to continue to 372 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: see a lot more success. I have this, this can 373 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 2: be fact checked. I have been picking the Cardinals a 374 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: lot this year. I've been right some I've been wrong 375 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: other times, but one of the reasons being because I 376 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 2: just keep feeling like and I felt like they were 377 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,120 Speaker 2: going to do it when we have them on Monday 378 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 2: Night football against the Chargers. I'd picked him that week, 379 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:53,480 Speaker 2: which I would admit even if I was wrong, but 380 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 2: I was right that time. But I just feel like 381 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:59,639 Speaker 2: they're cooking with something really special, and it seems like 382 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:01,720 Speaker 2: like sort of believing themselves. 383 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 3: He've got a little bit of a chip on their shoulders. 384 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 3: So we love. 385 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 2: Talking about them on NFL Live and we're going to 386 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: continue to a lot. 387 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: I think hopefully they win this week. Be fun. 388 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 1: I know Dan Orlovsky has been very bullish on Kyler. 389 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure you covered Kyler when he was in college 390 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:21,520 Speaker 1: and now in the NFL. How have you seen him 391 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:24,639 Speaker 1: grow and mature as a player and as a person 392 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 1: during this time. 393 00:18:26,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: I think that's well said, player in person, right, because 394 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 2: you know, there were some things that there are some 395 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:33,879 Speaker 2: things that are just unique about Kyler. 396 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 3: Right. 397 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:37,480 Speaker 2: He's not your you know guy that's going to stand 398 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,480 Speaker 2: up there and handle the press conference. 399 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: Like a Peyton manning Wood. And by the way, that's okay. 400 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,440 Speaker 2: And I think it's been cool to see him stay 401 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 2: true to some of what got him there. I mean, 402 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,600 Speaker 2: he's always been this guy that felt like he had 403 00:18:50,640 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 2: to prove people wrong. And I remember even back to 404 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 2: carrying in the college football Playoff and you know, him 405 00:18:56,840 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: feeling like they weren't getting respect up against the big 406 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,080 Speaker 2: bad SEC and person now they're in the SEC Oklahomas, 407 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 2: but at that time, you know, that was something that 408 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:10,919 Speaker 2: really bothered him. And he would tell me like he 409 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:13,440 Speaker 2: was not scared to say, you know, you guys just 410 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 2: respect us and all that, and some of that the 411 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:22,119 Speaker 2: way that he approaches the media maybe or the outside world. 412 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 2: You know, sometimes people don't know how to handle that. 413 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:25,959 Speaker 3: But I think it's who he is. 414 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 2: And and then I would say, you know, from the 415 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 2: playing standpoint, you just see him. I think this year 416 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:35,639 Speaker 2: or this season, he's finally healthy. He looks like he 417 00:19:35,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: feels better, and we're just seeing that dynamic ability. I mean, 418 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:44,679 Speaker 2: he starts running and making plays outside the pocket and 419 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,200 Speaker 2: you're like, oh my god, this guy is a cheat coat. 420 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 3: You know. And I think we've seen that develop a lot. 421 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 2: We've also seen him become I think, a better decision maker. 422 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 3: Because he's had to be, you know. 423 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 2: And this guy can be the limit for him if 424 00:19:57,480 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: he continues to get the support around him and if 425 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,240 Speaker 2: James Connor continues. 426 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 3: To run the ball as well as he has. 427 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,520 Speaker 2: He's just one of my favorite players I've ever covered, 428 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:07,920 Speaker 2: and I think he's such a key obviously to that offense. 429 00:20:08,160 --> 00:20:10,240 Speaker 1: You mentioned James Connor. I was going to go there next. 430 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,040 Speaker 1: What specifically stands out to you about him? Do you 431 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: have a special memory. I had Ronaldi on a few 432 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: weeks ago, and he talked about them that he and 433 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:23,479 Speaker 1: James have developed from Tom these deep stories on him, 434 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:24,439 Speaker 1: and he was back at Pitt. 435 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: Yes, So. 436 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 2: He's an amazing person. I mean truly, I'll start there, 437 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,480 Speaker 2: you know, just telling his story. And I did cover 438 00:20:37,560 --> 00:20:39,439 Speaker 2: him back at Pitt and I was doing Thursday Night 439 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 2: Football for a while, so got to see him there, 440 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:47,600 Speaker 2: and he's I've never encountered a player that was more 441 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,880 Speaker 2: grateful for whatever their burden was. It was like he 442 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: was truly grateful that he was going through cancer treatments 443 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 2: and trying to you know, still play football after that 444 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,040 Speaker 2: and all that, and I'm thinking, my goodness, what an 445 00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,760 Speaker 2: amazing perspective, you know, and that and that's who he is, like, 446 00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 2: that's not manufactured. 447 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 3: So I love that. 448 00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 2: And then as a player, he's just so tough and 449 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,360 Speaker 2: I I almost feel like every time he runs the ball, 450 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 2: it's like he's he's grateful to be able to do it. 451 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: So he has this like I don't know if it's 452 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 2: just like this mentality of I'm not letting up because 453 00:21:22,920 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 2: I'm lucky to be here. I'm lucky to be able 454 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 2: to do this and do it at the level that 455 00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: I'm doing it. So you know, if you ever, if 456 00:21:30,080 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 2: you ever think about, like I think sometimes running backs 457 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:35,160 Speaker 2: like run the ball, the way that their personality is, 458 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 2: and he's definitely an example of that. Just his love 459 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 2: for the game and his love and zest for life 460 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 2: and all of that. Just that toughness though for sure, 461 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 2: sticks out all right. 462 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: Last one, how much on the show are you guys 463 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: talking about the Cardinals defensively in generalities with Nick Rolis 464 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: and the job he's doing with all the injuries the 465 00:21:57,280 --> 00:22:00,080 Speaker 1: Cardinals have pad And then how much you guys talk 466 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 1: about Buddha Baker specifically on defense. 467 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 3: So we've loved Buddha Baker on NFL Live for years. 468 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 2: I feel like he's like we have a few favorite players, 469 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: if you will, and he would definitely be in that category, 470 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 2: especially just with Ryan Clark being on the show, and 471 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 2: you know, we love secondary players, So there's a lot 472 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,679 Speaker 2: of conversation around Buddha Baker. And yes, I mean, I 473 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: think in general when we talk about the Cardinals, they 474 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: have found ways defensively to be so good and it's 475 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,879 Speaker 2: seemingly how is it possible with everything they dealt with 476 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: injury wise, So we've been very impressed. I mean, you're right, 477 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:38,760 Speaker 2: the offense kind of gets a lot of the love 478 00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: because of Kyler and all of that, and that makes sense, 479 00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 2: but the defense deserves a ton of credit too, and 480 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:46,440 Speaker 2: you know, a great opportunity this week against the Jets 481 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 2: for that defense to show what it's made of and 482 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 2: to give Aaron Rodgers in trouble. 483 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: All right, Laura, you're the best. You're awesome. So good 484 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: to talk to you, so good to see you have 485 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,679 Speaker 1: a great show today and all the other stuff you 486 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,679 Speaker 1: have going on this week. 487 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 3: Thank you, David. I really appreciate it to do this, 488 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: so thank you so much. 489 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: Always great to catch up with Laura. She is one 490 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: of the truly nicest people in the broadcasting business. And 491 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,200 Speaker 1: you can just tell from hearing the conversations with her 492 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 1: about her family, about the wardrobe mishaps. She does not 493 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:24,240 Speaker 1: take herself too seriously, and that's like all of us, right, 494 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: we can relate to that. She's very personable. What you 495 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: see with Laura on TV is what you get when 496 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: she's not on TV. 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