1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Klay, Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,000 Speaker 2: Got a special surprise for all of you. Didn't even 4 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: promo this one. Uh, we have Vi vike Ramaswami with 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 2: us right now calling in. He is running for presidents 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: and he's doing a heck of a job so far. Viveke. 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:21,759 Speaker 2: Great to have you calling in, my friend, Thanks for 8 00:00:21,800 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 2: being with us. 9 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, how you guys doing. 10 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:30,000 Speaker 2: We're good man. So you were in Nashville yesterday. I 11 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 2: want to first, you know, bring up to speed on 12 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 2: the last twenty four hours. We can get some of 13 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: the broader issues, the indictments, the campaigns, all the thing's 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 2: happening right now, but first tell me what you were 15 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: and tell everybody what you were doing in Nashville and 16 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:44,720 Speaker 2: what your purpose has been there. 17 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Well, my purpose was very focused on calling for the 18 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,560 Speaker 1: release of the transgender shooter's manifesto. 19 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 3: Period. 20 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 1: I think that this is a shame that this hasn't 21 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 1: yet been released, but it's typical of what's happening in 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: the country where we have a government that believes that 23 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: the people cannot be trusted with the truth. That tragedy, 24 00:01:08,080 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 1: that tragic shooting of six people at Covenant School occurred 25 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 1: on March twenty seventh. In April, Governor Bill Lee and 26 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: others gestured towards the likely release of the manifesto. We're 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 1: now sitting in August. That manifesto has still not been released. 28 00:01:23,040 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: And I think that's wrong because there's a long standing 29 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:28,039 Speaker 1: tradition in law enforcement whenever the manifesto is recovered, to 30 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 1: release it to help understand the most we can about 31 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: a tragedy, to help prevent something like it from happening 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:37,480 Speaker 1: in the future. But my particular reason for going to 33 00:01:37,560 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Nashville this month to Tennessee now is that Governor Bill 34 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:45,240 Speaker 1: Lee then has the gall to nonetheless call a special 35 00:01:45,319 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: session of the legislature to pass red flag laws and 36 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:53,080 Speaker 1: the anti gun measures without actually releasing to the public 37 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the essence of that manifesto. And I just think that's wrong. 38 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,880 Speaker 1: I think it erodes at public trust. I think it 39 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: reinforces this wrong belief that the public cannot handle the truth. 40 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: And so I went there to say, on behalf of 41 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: the citiens of this country, yes, actually we can handle 42 00:02:10,960 --> 00:02:11,400 Speaker 1: the truth. 43 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 2: So the vigue publicly, I've called on this show and 44 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,760 Speaker 2: in other forums as well, for the release of the manifesto. 45 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 2: My sense of it all along has been, and I'm 46 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,680 Speaker 2: sure this is a part of what's going on, that 47 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 2: there would be some very troubling things in there from 48 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 2: the perspective of the beliefs of this transgender terrorist and 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 2: either quote anti trans laws that are being passed in 50 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: different states, or you know, the right wing conducting some 51 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 2: kind of a quote erasure of trans people and they 52 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 2: don't want the public to see that. 53 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: Right. 54 00:02:45,040 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 2: That's been my assessment all along. Is there another component 55 00:02:50,639 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 2: to this? I mean, now that you've gone right to 56 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: the heart of this debate and showed up in Nashville 57 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: and tried to push for the release of the transgender 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:02,240 Speaker 2: shooter's manifesto, is there a part of the argument that 59 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 2: we're not hearing as much that actually makes more sense 60 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 2: to you, even if you still believe it should be released. 61 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that there is likely something else going 62 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:14,079 Speaker 1: on here. That's my strong sense. I think there were 63 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: people who came from that community who are also against 64 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 1: its release. But my view is, even if it's not 65 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 1: my preferred political narrative or somebody else's preferred political narrative, 66 00:03:25,720 --> 00:03:28,840 Speaker 1: we should not have preferred political narratives actually, we should 67 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: just be interested in the truth. America is founded on 68 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: the truth, on a government accountable to its people, rather 69 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: than the other way around. And so even if the 70 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: truth isn't that they are protecting some transgender hate crime 71 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: against a Christian school, which is my base case assumption, 72 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 1: you know, I think that, having been there and on 73 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: the ground my senses, that may not be the story. 74 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: But all we have now to do is to be 75 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: left to guess, and I think that that's wrong. 76 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:55,680 Speaker 4: Now. 77 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 1: One of the arguments that they sometimes use is to 78 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: say that they don't want to provide inspiration or a 79 00:04:00,920 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: roadmap for people who can commit similar crimes in the future. 80 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't want that either. Nobody wants that. I think 81 00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: if there are details of a crime that need that 82 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: need to be laid out, well those can be redacted 83 00:04:14,200 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 1: in the case of a memo that's public released, I'd 84 00:04:17,320 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: be supportive of that. But nonetheless, we have to see 85 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: at least the truth about the motives. We have to 86 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: see the truth about what was behind this killer's motives. 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: We have a mental health epidemic in this country. Gender 88 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 1: NIS forty, I believe is a mental health condition. We 89 00:04:31,200 --> 00:04:34,200 Speaker 1: have to confront that reality, but a deeper mental health condition. 90 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: If people pose risks to their communities, we need to 91 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: deal with that in a different way than just removing 92 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: guns from law abiding citizens, which is exactly what Tennessee 93 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: is on track to do later this month. And history 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:50,239 Speaker 1: teaches us that we make our worst policy decisions under 95 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:53,599 Speaker 1: conditions of a so called response to an emergency, when 96 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: we suppress the truth. That's exactly what happened during the 97 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen pandemic. And I see the same mistake on 98 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: track to repeat itself in Tennessee, by the way, under 99 00:05:02,560 --> 00:05:03,679 Speaker 1: a Republican governor. 100 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 2: At them the vek Ramaswami with us. Now he's running 101 00:05:08,240 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 2: for president, he's showing up big already in some of 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 2: the polls relative to the other challengers. And vivek Uh, 103 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: did you. I don't know if you if you've seen this, 104 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 2: so I'm kind of putting you on the spot, but 105 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 2: I'm curious what your assessment of it is. A lot 106 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:28,919 Speaker 2: of folks reacting to this. David Samuel's kind of magazine 107 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:34,719 Speaker 2: piece in Tablet where he goes into effectively Obama's actually 108 00:05:34,839 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 2: calling a lot of the shots for the Biden administration, 109 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,839 Speaker 2: and this seems to pull together a lot of different threads. 110 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 2: Makes a lot of sense to me. What's your assessment 111 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 2: of that and how it pertains to Biden going forward? 112 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: Well, this actually is pretty relevant to my campaign. I'm 113 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: a little bit outside the gop Overton window here on this. 114 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 1: My whole point is, I think we need to stop 115 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 1: talking about Biden right the party line is with the 116 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: loitical consultants are coaching the candidates to do, and every 117 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: other candidate is doing. It's talking about the radical Biden agenda. 118 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: My message is, folks, stop talking about Biden for two reasons. 119 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: First of all, we have to actually talk more about 120 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: an affirmative vision of our own. It was our failure 121 00:06:14,640 --> 00:06:16,599 Speaker 1: to do that that I believe actually lost us what 122 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: was the red wave that never came in twenty twenty two. 123 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 1: But the deeper reason is the dirty little secret that 124 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: Biden is not in charge. The people we elect to 125 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,839 Speaker 1: run the government are not the ones who actually run 126 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: the government. That is the dirty little secret of modern 127 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: federal government in the United States of America. It is 128 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,320 Speaker 1: the managerial class in the deep state. And if we're 129 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: unwilling to wake up to that reality, then we're just 130 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: going to swap out one Republican puppet for a Democratic puppet, 131 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:45,160 Speaker 1: but it's going to be the still same managerial machine 132 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: that runs the show. So the only thing I would say, 133 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: and I haven't read the piece, but reacting to what 134 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: you said, is I think there's a temptation to then 135 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: pin it to another one person, say Obama. It's not 136 00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:59,480 Speaker 1: one person. It is a machine. It is a system 137 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:03,039 Speaker 1: that is than any one person. It is the Leviathon. Okay, 138 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: this is the Leviathon that Hobbs wrote about four hundred 139 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 1: years ago. It exists on modern American soil. It is 140 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 1: the hollowed out husk of a republic that we actually 141 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:14,480 Speaker 1: live in today. And I think the more we talk 142 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 1: about that, Clay, I'm leading the way and offering specifics, 143 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: unprecedented detail on how we would shut down that administrative state, 144 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 1: that deep state, and how that will stimulate the economy, 145 00:07:26,440 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: how that restores accountability in government. That's how we actually 146 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 1: win this election in a landslide. But the more we 147 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: fixate on just talking about Joe Biden and offering pole 148 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: tested platitudes from Republican political consultants, the more we're missing 149 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: the plot. And I think by the way the more 150 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:41,760 Speaker 1: like leaders. We're going to lose the next election too. 151 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 2: Now we are being told that any day now, and 152 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 2: I think at this point it's an assumption, right, It's not. Oh, 153 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 2: maybe there's going to be an indictment in Atlanta. I'd 154 00:07:54,240 --> 00:07:57,560 Speaker 2: be shocked if it didn't happen, which could mean a 155 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 2: fourth criminal indictment against Donald Trump. Now you have maintained, Vivek, 156 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: that you are running to be president, not running to 157 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 2: be Trump vice president or Treasury secretary or anything else. 158 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: What do you think the proper response of the GOP 159 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: speaking of machinery should be two? Well, certainly three and 160 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: likely soon four criminal indictments of your chief opponent in 161 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 2: this primary. 162 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: But there's a lot of people who want to hear 163 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,880 Speaker 1: me sit around in bash Trump. I'm not going to 164 00:08:30,960 --> 00:08:33,840 Speaker 1: do it, because, honestly, I think he was an excellent president. 165 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: I think that his victory over Hillary Clinton in twenty 166 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 1: sixteen was probably the single most political and politically important 167 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: event in my lifetime, certainly in this century, stopping the 168 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: inevitable Marxist march throughout this country and our government. And so, 169 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 1: if you want to hear a bunch of people bashing Trump, 170 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: tune into MSNBC. That's not what I'm going to give you. 171 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: But I'm in this to move us forward. I would 172 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 1: have made different judgments than Trump made, but a bad 173 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: judgment is not a crime. And I think it is 174 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: no accident that you are seeing three now possibly four, 175 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: but at least in the three that are out novel, 176 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: previously untested legal theories levied against one man in the 177 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 1: middle of a presidential election. Come on, guys, this is 178 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,719 Speaker 1: politicized persecution. Through prosecution, it sets an awful and dangerous 179 00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 1: legal precedent in our country, even that most recent indictment 180 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: effectively criminalizing seeking good faith legal advice and a lawyer 181 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:26,840 Speaker 1: giving it, turning that activity into a so called conspiracy 182 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: with your lawyer. This is uncharted legal territory. It is 183 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 1: dangerous precedents that shape the foundations of our legal system. 184 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 1: And I say this as somebody who is now running 185 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,800 Speaker 1: third in the Republican national primary. It would be easier 186 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: for me if Trump were eliminated from competition, but that 187 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: would be the wrong thing for the country. And that 188 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,680 Speaker 1: is why I've been so forceful on this, and it 189 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: is also why I have been crystal clear that when 190 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 1: I'm President and Clay, I do expect to be answer. 191 00:09:52,840 --> 00:09:55,679 Speaker 2: I'm buck plays out today, but close enough, go ahead. 192 00:09:56,280 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: We will, we will pardon him. What's that? 193 00:09:57,880 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 3: What's that? 194 00:09:58,280 --> 00:09:58,400 Speaker 5: Lay? 195 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 2: I'm buck is out today. It's okay, It's all right, man, 196 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 2: we sound we sound close enough that it happens with people. 197 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 2: But tell me, let's get onto the the the immigration 198 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 2: frontier for a second. Because you know you've seen I'm 199 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 2: sure and I talked about it at length yesterday on 200 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: the show. You've seen the migrants who are out in 201 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:26,200 Speaker 2: the streets and and the whole thing. What would a 202 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 2: Ramaswami immigration policy look like? And I mean, give me 203 00:10:30,559 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 2: some of the Please secure the border. Yeah, yeah, we know, 204 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 2: enforce the law. Yeah, we know what though? 205 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: How Yeah, so let me let me go quickly because 206 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: because there's a lot here. One is, the wall is 207 00:10:43,080 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: not enough. We must use the US military to secure 208 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: the southern border. We have one point three million men 209 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 1: and women serving today, seven hundred thousand more in reserve. 210 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,199 Speaker 1: That is plenty to secure the southern border. Close the 211 00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 1: Swiss cheese of a hole. They're building cartel financed tunnels 212 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: underneath that wall. It's the source of most of the 213 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: sentinel coming into this country. That's how we end it. 214 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 1: Stop funding for sanctuary cities, that eliminates the incentives, and 215 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: further stop a dime of foreign aid, any dime to Mexico, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, 216 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: Belize until Mexico itself has solved its own southern border problem. 217 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: So that's how we solve the illegal migration problem. And 218 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: then on immigration more broadly, Look, there's a key north 219 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: star here. It should be obvious, but I'm going to 220 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 1: say it anyway, which is that the purpose of our 221 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: immigration policy should be what advances the interests of the homeland, 222 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: what advances the interests of American citizens on American soil. 223 00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:44,800 Speaker 1: I believe the US President, I believe our government has 224 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 1: a moral obligation to our citizens to ask what advances 225 00:11:49,600 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: the interests of our citizens, and that would be what 226 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 1: guides a broader legal immigration policy as well, which I 227 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: have you know, lengthy views on. But that's the north star, 228 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: Prince that I would use. 229 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: The Vike Rama swam everybody he is running. Vivike, what's 230 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: your site so people can see more about your policies 231 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 2: and what you're up to. 232 00:12:10,400 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: Vivik twenty twenty four dot com. That's viv e K 233 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four dot com. And as I say, if 234 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,160 Speaker 1: you want reform, go with somebody else. But I stand 235 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: on the side of revolution, and so if that's you, 236 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: come join us. Thank you, Buck, it's good talking to you. 237 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 2: Great, good talk to you. Thanks for making the time 238 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 2: vivic well. 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Play two Pearl Harbor nineteen forty one, 268 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 2: nine to eleven, two thousand and one. 269 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,439 Speaker 6: Donald Trump, just like those other threats. 270 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 7: To American democracy, tried to destroy our system. 271 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 2: He's an existential threat to the national security of our country. 272 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 2: Put Donald Trump in this box as an existential threat. 273 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 6: The existential threat being Trump. 274 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: Trump is an existential threat to democracy. 275 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 6: These indictments, which is about the future of American democracy. 276 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 5: Democracy itself is really an issue in this trial. If 277 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,240 Speaker 5: Trump could get away with what he's done, what he's 278 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 5: charged with here, then we don't have the democracy we 279 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 5: believed we had. 280 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:42,840 Speaker 2: It would be the end of our democracy. If Donald 281 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:47,360 Speaker 2: Trump was able to get back into office, it's the 282 00:14:47,520 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 2: end of the world as we know it's But I 283 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 2: do not feel fine. 284 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 1: Is that? 285 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 2: Rim? 286 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 3: Is that? 287 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: Orim am right? 288 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: Right? 289 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 2: Yeah? Rim, remember when they had a moment back in 290 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 2: the nineties. They were everywhere early now and he's like 291 00:15:00,440 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: ninety two, ninety three, I think it was. It was 292 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: in my religion. I was never an Ram fan. I 293 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: was gonna say it. I even as a young guy, 294 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 2: like a kid in grammar school. I was like, this 295 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Ben stinks anyway. But there you have it. The Okay, 296 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 2: it's so terrible. Trump is a threat and existential threat 297 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 2: to democracy, going to end the country and all this stuff. 298 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 2: Some of them are historians too, are making the rounds 299 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: to say that this is a historic threat. But you 300 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: know who's not a historian, a reverend, but not a historian, 301 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Al Sharpton, And I just want you to hear his 302 00:15:38,360 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 2: assessment of Trump as a threat to democracy. Play it. 303 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 8: One day, our children's children will read American history, and 304 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 8: can you imagine our reading the James Madison or Thomas 305 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 8: Jefferson tried to overthrow the government. 306 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: So that's who we're looking at. 307 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 8: We're looking at American history, and how we will play 308 00:16:00,600 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 8: is gonna be very important. 309 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, can you imagine, everybody? Could you imagine for 310 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:12,480 Speaker 2: a second if the Founding fathers, you know, Jefferson in 311 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 2: Washington and Madison, if they tried to overthrow the government. 312 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:24,080 Speaker 2: That's crazy. That's just so crazy, isn't it. You know, 313 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 2: if there's one thing you can say about Thomas Jefferson, 314 00:16:28,320 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 2: it's that he was gonna do whatever the regime in 315 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: power when he grew up told him to do, no 316 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 2: questions asked. He was like King George, what do you want? 317 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 2: What do you need? I got you covered? Not so much, 318 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 2: not so much, it turns out, But that was a 319 00:16:45,960 --> 00:16:50,840 Speaker 2: great one. Imagine if the Founding Fathers, I mean, people 320 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 2: act like this country is founded by a bunch of revolutionaries. 321 00:16:55,520 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Reverend Now, as a New Yorker, I've been 322 00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: hearing so much about reverendal for since I was a 323 00:17:04,320 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 2: little kid, So I have a particular I have particular 324 00:17:08,320 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 2: memories of what he was like back in the day. 325 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:16,119 Speaker 2: But anyway, yes, as you see here, the rhetoric is 326 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: going to have to get even more absurd about all 327 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 2: things Trump related because the Democrats have been conditioned to 328 00:17:23,440 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: speak about it in this way. 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Look, you know, there are things 366 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 2: that Trump says or does that not everyone I know 367 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 2: agrees with that I don't always agree with obviously, but 368 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: there's a broader movement and there's a sense of something 369 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 2: bigger at stake than just well, I didn't like that tweet, 370 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 2: or I disagree with him appointing this person, or you know, 371 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:54,080 Speaker 2: no one's perfect. I argue with members of my own 372 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 2: family and they're all pretty fantastic. So you know, this 373 00:19:57,320 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 2: is this is the reality that we deal with in politics. 374 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 2: You're not looking for the perfect, looking for the best 375 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 2: option that brings about the most important, most meaningful results. 376 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden is just like a I can't even say 377 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:15,280 Speaker 2: it on the radio. 378 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 9: He's a you know, he's a jerk, you know, but 379 00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 9: he's tied to Joe, and as we know, Joe is 380 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 9: tied to Barack, as we've been talking about. 381 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: So they protect him, they circle the wagons, and there's 382 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 2: It does remind me at some level of the most extreme, 383 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 2: the most extreme cults, because they the more absurd what 384 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: you're willing to say in front of or in favor 385 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 2: of Hunter Biden, the more absurd it is, the more 386 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,280 Speaker 2: attached to the Democrat power apparatus you become. I will 387 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: give you a perfect example of this, Joe Scarborough, a 388 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 2: former Republican. I mean, I'll tell you this, there is 389 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: no chance that I would ever become a live It's 390 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 2: just never going to happen. I have viewed the world 391 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 2: through the prism of conservative values since as long as 392 00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:12,640 Speaker 2: I have been thinking about things, you know, beyond where 393 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna get, you know, my next scooter and ham sandwich, 394 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: since I was a kid, right. I mean, It's just 395 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 2: it couldn't be any more straightforward for me who I 396 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 2: am and what I believe in. Some people in the 397 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,520 Speaker 2: media they just totally switch. Doesn't matter what, you know, 398 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: if the paychecks are good enough, they'll be a communist. 399 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:33,120 Speaker 2: They don't care whatever, whatever works, whatever matters, however they 400 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 2: get there. And you certainly see that over at MSNBC 401 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: you have former Push administration officials who are now working 402 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: for the the Commies over at MSNBC, and Scarborough, a 403 00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,119 Speaker 2: Republican congressman, from Florida. He goes over there and he 404 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,160 Speaker 2: says that there's no way he believes this is true. 405 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 2: He could never say debate this, He would never call 406 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: him to the show and say, really, you don't think 407 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden's can committed any crimes. 408 00:21:56,880 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 6: Here Play nineteen, they keep trying to find something, anything, 409 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 6: to distract from the fact that Donald Trump has been 410 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 6: charged with stealing nuclear secrets, charged with stealing military plans, 411 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:15,639 Speaker 6: charged with trying to overthrow an American presidential election. And 412 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 6: they keep sort of rummaging around for Hunter Biden Biden 413 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 6: crime family. 414 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:22,120 Speaker 2: Conspiracy theories. 415 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 6: And again, let me say it again, this is our 416 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 6: daily reminder to anybody watching. If Hunter Biden's guilty of anything, arresting, charging, 417 00:22:32,080 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 6: led a jury, convicting case, Aura Sarah, whatever will be 418 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 6: will be, as we say here. But the Republicans they 419 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 6: have nothing. They keep making fools of themselves. 420 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,200 Speaker 2: I mean, could he really be that big of a jackass? 421 00:22:45,800 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 2: Daddy is the president Joe, so they won't allow any 422 00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:53,600 Speaker 2: charges against him, But the charges are so obvious and 423 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: he's so guilty that they were going to, at least 424 00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 2: for the purposes of the political optics, make him take 425 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 2: a multi count plead deal, but he walked away from 426 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 2: the plea deal because there were other crimes that the 427 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: judge wasn't willing to give him a get out of 428 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 2: jail free card on because he hadn't been indicted or 429 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 2: even talked about being indicted with the prosecutors on that one. 430 00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 2: Everyone knows he's guilty. Hunter knows he's guilty. The whole 431 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 2: world knows he's guilty. There's no debate over whether a hunter, 432 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: oh literatury convict him. Oh okay, you know this is great. 433 00:23:31,280 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: It's be like, what's the problem in Soviet Russia? Let 434 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 2: the people love Stalin, let them vote, Yeah, because that's 435 00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 2: how it was working, you know. Hmm, Sure, there's no 436 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,639 Speaker 2: problem in the Soviet Union. They had a constitution, they 437 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: had all kinds of rights, they had like paid leave 438 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:51,360 Speaker 2: in their constitution, paid vacation. Somehow it didn't work out 439 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 2: that way. Mm. They have a problem. Bring the charges, 440 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,159 Speaker 2: the fixes in and he knows it. Everybody knows it. 441 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 2: But this is the game that we're going to be 442 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 2: going through here. People are going to do whatever is 443 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:07,159 Speaker 2: most advantageous to their belief system at some level, but 444 00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 2: also to the bottom line. And here we go NBC's 445 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 2: Scott Wong, I told you this is what they're going 446 00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,679 Speaker 2: to say. Okay, it was really gross. Yes they were 447 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,400 Speaker 2: selling influence. Yes, Joe talked to the business partners. Yes, 448 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 2: everything we told you before about this was a lie. 449 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,959 Speaker 2: But no one's going to prison for it. There's no charges. 450 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 7: Play eighteen Hunter Biden is an entirely different question. He, 451 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:37,399 Speaker 7: of course, very clearly was trying to trade on the 452 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:40,399 Speaker 7: Biden name. Archer said that multiple times that he was 453 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:45,479 Speaker 7: portraying this appearance or quote an illusion of influence. And 454 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 7: so that was something that was very clearly stated by 455 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:54,359 Speaker 7: Archer that Hunter Biden was trying to impress his employer, Barisma, 456 00:24:54,440 --> 00:24:59,680 Speaker 7: the Ukrainian energy company, but that no evidence of impropriety 457 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:01,480 Speaker 7: is committed by Joe Biden. 458 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 2: Look at all these all these correspondents on the news, 459 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 2: all all of a sudden, they're all speaking like defense attorneys. Well, 460 00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 2: there was no there's no definitive proof that has been 461 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 2: tested in a judicial system yet that is of a 462 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: level of evidence, evidentiary burden. The whole thing. We know what, 463 00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: they're just circle the wagons, do whatever they have to do. 464 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: But this notion of the illusion of influence, the illusion 465 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,120 Speaker 2: of influence. I mean, with Biden, we have the illusion 466 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: of a presidency. But that's something we talked about in 467 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 2: the first hour. The illusion of influence. Okay, let's just say, 468 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, we got a lot of people out there, 469 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 2: you know, in honor of my buddy Clay, I'll do 470 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 2: a little sports a little sports analogy here. If I 471 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 2: were to pay off the referee of a game, or rather, 472 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 2: let's say I am the referee at I'm the I'm 473 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 2: the head referee at the Super Bowl, and someone gives 474 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: me a million dollars and says, hey, you know, my 475 00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 2: New York football giants, we agree they're gonna get the 476 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 2: close calls, right, wink wink, And I go, I'm just 477 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 2: gonna take your money. You know I'm not making any promises, 478 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:17,439 Speaker 2: wink wink. Does anybody could that referee say, oh, I 479 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 2: just took the money. It was the illusion of influence. 480 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,359 Speaker 2: It was the illusion of influence that I took millions 481 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: of dollars for. I don't think so, I don't think so. 482 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:34,080 Speaker 2: Imagine you're a politician, make this even easier. You were 483 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 2: signing off on big government contracts. You're the governor of 484 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,400 Speaker 2: New York State. It was a true imbecile, But put 485 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 2: that aside. The governor of New York State and someone 486 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 2: brings you a briefcase full of money, they say, look, 487 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 2: I don't want this to be quid pro quote, because 488 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 2: that's corruption. Here, just take a briefcase of the million 489 00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 2: dollars in it. Maybe you're gonna give me that casino 490 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: license that I want. I'm not saying you're going to, 491 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 2: but just take this million dollars and let Is that 492 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 2: the illusion of influence or is that influence? You say, oh, 493 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:08,040 Speaker 2: but you can't make the person. Well, they've taken him. 494 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 2: They've they've taken a million dollars from you. In the 495 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: case of Hunter, it's many, many millions of dollars. But 496 00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:19,159 Speaker 2: this is the game. They move the goalposts. They lied, 497 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 2: They ran interference for as long as they can. Unfortunately, 498 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920 Speaker 2: interference they ran has helped them because of the statute 499 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: of limitations component of all of this. But now they're 500 00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: gonna have people like Joe's garb. You're like, yeah, if 501 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,159 Speaker 2: it's if he's guilty, put him to a jury and 502 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 2: let's see what happens. I mean, I would love anybody 503 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,160 Speaker 2: with any honesty and any hoots, but whatsoever that table 504 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: to say, you know, he was signing a plea deal 505 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 2: because he did all this stuff, right, you know, they've 506 00:27:43,760 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 2: got him nailed, right, like, this is not a there's 507 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 2: no there's no question as to whether he broke the law. 508 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 2: He's saying he broke the law and it's not his 509 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 2: fault because he was a drug addict. So please be 510 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 2: merciful on me. And by merciful it means wipe the 511 00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,760 Speaker 2: whole thing away, because he's Joe Biden's son. But they're 512 00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 2: the unreality. They're pushing the unreality. They think that if 513 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 2: they throw another and the Atlanta charge is probably coming 514 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 2: down any day now, any day now. They think, if 515 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 2: they throw a fourth, maybe a fifth, maybe a sixth, 516 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: let's throw another criminal indictment. Let let's get a criminal indictment, 517 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: you know, we'll throw them on layaway. Well we'll lease 518 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 2: some criminal indictments. Well we'll donate some criminal indictments, you know, 519 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: put them. Make it ten, make it fifteen. They think 520 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:32,360 Speaker 2: the number of these indictments is going to change anybody's 521 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 2: mind about what's happening. They think that we're gonna say, oh, well, 522 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: you know, because you are criminalizing conversations with his lawyers, 523 00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 2: and a legal strategy. Now, finally, sure you a lot 524 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 2: at Russia collusion. Sure you've you know, you've gone through 525 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 2: extreme length to destroy the uh whatever faith we have 526 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 2: in the system to try to take down Donald Trump. 527 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 2: Sure you impeach them twice, including an impeachment for a 528 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 2: per when he said when Trump was perfectly fine phone call, 529 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:05,440 Speaker 2: it was he was right. But yeah, if they get 530 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: to indictment number four, then we have to then we 531 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: have to really rethink things. Sure, it's not gonna work 532 00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:13,640 Speaker 2: that way. It's not gonna work that way. Eight hundred 533 00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 2: two two two, eight to two. We'll take some of 534 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 2: your calls. Also, I had never seen this before. Maybe 535 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 2: we'll have an expert in the audience weigh in on 536 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 2: this one random story that just got some interest from me, 537 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 2: and we'll talk about it. Maybe we come back because 538 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 2: it's not an important story. But I love animals. I 539 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 2: tell you that I love dogs. We're getting a dog 540 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: this fall. I'm gonna need some of you to I 541 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: want to get a second dog next year too. It's 542 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 2: a whole other conversation. We're gonna have two of them. 543 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,320 Speaker 2: You have to teach me though, how I can train 544 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 2: them both so they can live happily together and there's 545 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 2: no problems there. But I love animals, I love dogs. 546 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: I always thought that otters were were really I'll just 547 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: tell you, I thought otters are really cute. I'd seen 548 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 2: them before in the while. I'd seen them up in 549 00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 2: Minnesota and Canada and up in the Adirondacks. I've seen 550 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:03,240 Speaker 2: otters before. Right, there was a vicious otter attack in Montana, 551 00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 2: attack three people in the water. I never even hear. 552 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:08,720 Speaker 2: I didn't even know that was a thing that could 553 00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 2: happen when otters attack. I'm being it's just totally serious. 554 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 2: I saw this story. We've got any zoologists out there 555 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,280 Speaker 2: who could explain this one to me? I was ready 556 00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: to get a pet otter. Not so much anymore. The 557 00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence gold rush could soon be creating substantial wealth 558 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: for ambitious individuals who understand this technology. 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Catch up on any part of 577 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: this show you might have missed. 578 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,800 Speaker 2: Stay current with what Clay and Buck are saying on TV. 579 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: Fine the Klay and Buck app in your app store 580 00:31:36,880 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 3: and make it part of your day. 581 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: Welcome back in team. We'll circle back around at the 582 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 2: top of the next hour and talk more about the 583 00:31:44,200 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: in Diamond situation, politics in America, you know, important stuff. 584 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 2: We'll get into all of that and also may bring 585 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 2: you a very important voice, the most important voice I 586 00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 2: think you could hear on these airwaves with some analysis 587 00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 2: of that piece on Barack Obama that we have linked 588 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 2: up at clanbuck dot com. I am telling you it is. 589 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 2: It is must read stuff, and it's none of it's 590 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 2: not there's no conspiratorial stuff. It is the pre eminent 591 00:32:12,920 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 2: biographer of Obama answering questions about Obama. And he's not 592 00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: an anti Obama. He's just just going with the facts. 593 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: But just even the whole thing about living in Colorama 594 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 2: in d C. Right near the White House, that's interesting. 595 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 2: Who is the other find me the other president who 596 00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: right after they finished their presidency they just bought a 597 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: mansion down the street from the White House. That's interesting. 598 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 2: We'll get some calls here in a moment. Also, I 599 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:47,360 Speaker 2: mentioned this, this is just crazy. Three women injured in 600 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 2: rare otter attack in Montana's Jefferson River. Three women were 601 00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 2: I mean, I see a photo of where they were 602 00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 2: here on the Jefferson River. Looks beautiful. Montana's amazing. I 603 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:03,040 Speaker 2: was in Montana a couple years ago, absolutely beautiful place. 604 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 2: So they're just hanging out, maybe you know, intertubing with 605 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 2: some chardonnay in their hands or something. Intertubing is such 606 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 2: a fun way to chill out in the river. Three 607 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 2: of them were attacked by I guess a Northern River otter. 608 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 2: They only get to weigh something like twenty or thirty pounds. 609 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 2: I think they're not that big. There are otters in 610 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 2: the Amazon. I believe that can be enormous, and I 611 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: think some of the sea otters out there can also 612 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 2: get shockingly big. Somebody, don't we have an We have 613 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 2: specialists in everything in this audience. I want our otter 614 00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: specialists to come to call in. All right. If I 615 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:44,200 Speaker 2: tell somebody that I need a palaeontologist with expertise in pterodactyls, 616 00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:46,840 Speaker 2: I say that on these air waves, we've got them 617 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 2: or her always. So I just didn't know they would 618 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:53,520 Speaker 2: attack people, three different people. One of them had to 619 00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:58,200 Speaker 2: be airlifted because the injuries were so serious. Folks, you 620 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:00,320 Speaker 2: can have a pet not that I've reached, not that 621 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,560 Speaker 2: I've researched this. You can have a pet otter in 622 00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: Florida with no no permit, legal, you know. 623 00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:08,759 Speaker 1: I see them. 624 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 2: They cracked the little shells on their tummies and stuff, 625 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:13,400 Speaker 2: and they float around and they look they look like 626 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 2: they're just hanging out. Apparently not always. Let's say we 627 00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:20,760 Speaker 2: have Frank in California. Frank, what have you got for us? 628 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:21,640 Speaker 1: Hey? 629 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:22,880 Speaker 3: But this Buck? 630 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:23,839 Speaker 1: Yes? 631 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: It is Buck. Yes, sir, you got right, and listen. 632 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 10: I just want to thank you tremendously having with Econ. 633 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,760 Speaker 3: I've only heard him for a few minutes on Laura 634 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Ingraham Show and your interview with him. I just contributed 635 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 3: one hundred dollars to his website, and I'm going one 636 00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 3: hundred dollars a month. 637 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:58,439 Speaker 10: That's the guy we need. He's he's an American. He's 638 00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:03,400 Speaker 10: gonna put the military the border. What a great candidate. 639 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 10: I was Trump, but I just switched to the Zech. 640 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 3: And again, thank you for interviewing him. 641 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 2: Thank you. Vivic and I became Vic and I became friends. 642 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:18,239 Speaker 2: Thanks for calling in Frank. A few years ago, we 643 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,880 Speaker 2: did an event together in Milwaukee. We've got our great 644 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:28,839 Speaker 2: Milwaukee affiliate WISN, so you know, we we did an 645 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: event together for like fifteen hundred people or something. It 646 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 2: was great and Vivic and I were hanging out there 647 00:35:33,719 --> 00:35:36,279 Speaker 2: and had a good time. So that was maybe that 648 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,720 Speaker 2: was pre pre pandemic. Gosh, I can't. The pandemic stuff 649 00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:44,120 Speaker 2: all makes my timelines off. Hayden in Charleston, South Carolina. Yes, 650 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,359 Speaker 2: Charleston one of my favorite places. What's going on, Hayden, Hey, 651 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:49,319 Speaker 2: Buck Shield time, Shield time. 652 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 4: So, in regards to the talking heads that you played 653 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 4: saying that Trump seas in office, it would be the 654 00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 4: end of democracy, their viewers are smart enough to understand 655 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,600 Speaker 4: that Trump just can't put himself in office, that there 656 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 4: has to be a vote by the people. Therefore democracy 657 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 4: is very alive. 658 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: Totally. This is what I've been saying, really important point, Hayden, 659 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:19,120 Speaker 2: Thank you for calling in. I gotta I gotta take 660 00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:21,879 Speaker 2: carry on on a weekend visit to Charleston. Just love 661 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 2: the food, the people. It's such a great spot. I 662 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: just say this. They're saying it's the end of democracy. 663 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 2: If people get to choose who their president is, that 664 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 2: means the end of democracy. Really, how does how does 665 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:39,520 Speaker 2: that work? Exactly? It's it's like we're living on the 666 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 2: upside down world. That's opposite day for these democrats. You know, 667 00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 2: if they think Trump is so awful, then let him 668 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:51,360 Speaker 2: run without all these incumbrances and let the people decide, 669 00:36:52,080 --> 00:36:54,520 Speaker 2: you know, Joe Biden. I'm sure people are going to 670 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,080 Speaker 2: really be excited about voting for him for a second time.