1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:05,359 Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I Heart Radio podcast. 2 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Jan You're back. Oh my god, I missed you, missed 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: you too much. I was no idea I really missed you. 4 00:00:14,560 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: It was we're not having you on the show last episode. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: It was super weird. I know. Um, but I was 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 1: in Nashville for a week and then I went to 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,760 Speaker 1: Michigan for a week for fourth of July. So cool. 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: I saw you were at the Cherry Festival. I loved it. Yeah, 9 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,120 Speaker 1: it was so fun. Um. I had a few friends 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: that were there. Dan and Shay was playing, and we 11 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: have a place close to Traverse City, so I was like, 12 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: let's go. What did you do for the fourth I 13 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: feel like I haven't talked to him? What did I know? 14 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: I feel like it's your liver. I did Oh my god, 15 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: did I did, Janna? When I missed so much? Okay? 16 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: On June twenty second, I went in and had my 17 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: complete torso light boat stop at the Beverly Hills. That 18 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: was fast. You just went in for a freaking complication. Yeah, 19 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: elite body sculpture. They tore us. They light bowed my 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:08,920 Speaker 1: whole Torso. I was awake the whole time. And guess 21 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: what what Saturday morning, I was up, went to breakfast, 22 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: went to coffee, so I went to a kid's birthday party, 23 00:01:15,840 --> 00:01:18,400 Speaker 1: went to an adult birthday party at night. Where did 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 1: they like, did they sew it back up? Or like 25 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: I didn't even have stitches where they stuck they stuck 26 00:01:26,280 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: it out from your or they use a tiny little 27 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: heated laser metal rod and it's just these little tiny holes. 28 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I was. I'm completely healed. I didn't even get a bruise. 29 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: I didn't bruise nothing. How many cookies have you hateen? Since? None? 30 00:01:47,680 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 1: And it was like, how much did you lose? Like 31 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: almost eight pounds and I'm still swollen? Wow? Gone, bye 32 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: bye worth it, totally worth it. I feel so good. 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean I thought you looked amazing before. I love, 34 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: thank you, No, I just needed I feel really good. 35 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: I mean I'm swollen, but um, I feel really good. 36 00:02:12,400 --> 00:02:16,560 Speaker 1: And it kind of jump started everything for me. And 37 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 1: it was a really awesome experience. That's great. I'm happy 38 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 1: for you because you like you're just like it's like 39 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: a wait has been lifted off and you just sound 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 1: to have to hear. So I love, it feels really 41 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: good and I'm really I'm really happy that I did it. 42 00:02:35,720 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: I really am. Okay, well, I'm happy that you did 43 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: it for you and that you were happy and that 44 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,520 Speaker 1: it went good, because I was. I was just scared 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: of the did they put you down here? Laughing gas? 46 00:02:49,280 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: The bomb that was. I was awake the whole time. 47 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: I was awake. That's crazy. I'll show you video. I will. 48 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: I have a video and if you want to see it. 49 00:02:58,600 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: But I was going to text you and it, you know, 50 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: And then I was like, oh, I'll just wait until 51 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 1: I see her because it'll be so much more. But 52 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: I love that. Hey, I have something I have to 53 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: bring up because I was talking with Amy about it 54 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: because I was telling her about my anxiety and just 55 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: telling things, Yeah, do you know that we both do 56 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: the same thing. We I I don't ever drive on 57 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 1: an expressway or a freeway and she's like, Jen doesn't either, 58 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: and I was like, no way. I thought it was 59 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 1: the only WEIRDO. Wait a second, you have we have 60 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: the same thing. I've never in my life have once 61 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: gotten on the four oh five or the one oh 62 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: one or any other expressway without someone else in the 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: car with me. I cannot drive an expressway or freeway 64 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: or whatever you guys call it alone. I could do 65 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: it maybe for a little bit with someone else's in 66 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: the car with me, but I still sometimes like we'll 67 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: have a panic attack and have to get off. Oh 68 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: my god, we suffer from the exact same thing. Now 69 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,480 Speaker 1: I have I have a question. Can you drive the 70 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: freeways in Michigan? That's a really good honestly okay, So 71 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: when I'm in Nashville, I can drive it from there's 72 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: a certain point. I can drive it from my Brentwood 73 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 1: location to downtown. But there are many times when I 74 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: have to get off on an exit because I start 75 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: to get dizzy and then oh my god, I'm having 76 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: a painting attack. So I but I and I now 77 00:04:21,640 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: have like decided or have tried to talk myself out 78 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:25,960 Speaker 1: of like you're fine, You're not gonna have pantic attack. 79 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: But worse, sometimes it does it. It makes it totally worse. 80 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 1: So I end up just taking like Franklin all the 81 00:04:31,279 --> 00:04:33,480 Speaker 1: way down or just like I'll take Venture all the 82 00:04:33,520 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 1: way down here, like I just I won't get on it. 83 00:04:36,040 --> 00:04:38,240 Speaker 1: I just for some reason, I just have such anxiety. 84 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I don't like getting stuck in traffic. I want to 85 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,720 Speaker 1: be able to have an exit strategy where I can 86 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:44,880 Speaker 1: get off and not be stuck, because if I'm stuck 87 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: like the you better call the National Guard and get 88 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:50,720 Speaker 1: me airlifted, because I will like knock on someone's door. 89 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: I mean, there was a point where I remember one 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,320 Speaker 1: time when I first moved to l A. I had 91 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 1: to get out of my car on the expressway and 92 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: get help and I called nine one. Sounds like wow. 93 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: I started to pass out. I just get I freak out, 94 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: and I'm just like, so, so you can drive it 95 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: and somewhere else, just not here. I can drive in 96 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: Metro Detroit a little bit here and there, but I 97 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: prefer to take like the mile roads there here. I've 98 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: been on the freeway maybe three or four times in 99 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: the fourteen years i've lived here, and that's with someone 100 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,280 Speaker 1: in the car. One time I got it. I got 101 00:05:35,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 1: on the freeway on accident and I was like, oh 102 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 1: my god, oh my god, I'm gonna die. But I 103 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:45,720 Speaker 1: really I think that can we have somebody on to 104 00:05:45,839 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: talk about this? Why do we have this bobia? I 105 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean I would love to have someone on, 106 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: you know, just an anxiety specialist or something, because I 107 00:05:55,960 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 1: remember I started to work with a therapist. That would 108 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: be like, Okay, drive on the expressway from exit to exit, 109 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 1: like you know this exited this exit, and then it'll 110 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,400 Speaker 1: get better and better. But for some reason I just 111 00:06:07,440 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 1: got worse and worse, and then I was just like, 112 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: screw it. I don't need to put myself through this 113 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: when I don't have to be on this expressway right. 114 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: And what about when Mike's driving, Oh, I'm totally fine. 115 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: If he's driving, I'm like the best, like the shotgun writer. Well, 116 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 1: I will say this minus the fact he I was 117 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 1: it's mad at me because when I see someone breaking 118 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: in front of me, I'm like hey, and he gets 119 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: really mad at me. So now I just usually make 120 00:06:30,600 --> 00:06:33,240 Speaker 1: up a song. I'm like la la la, la la la, 121 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:35,600 Speaker 1: Like if he gets really close to the car. But no, 122 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: he's good. He's just like he's aggressive and I'm aggressive too. 123 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: I'm like the main streets. But yeah, I mean, if 124 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:42,720 Speaker 1: we were stuck on traffic on an expressway and he 125 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: was driving, no problem, I'd be like in my glory 126 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:48,320 Speaker 1: day sitting back on Yeah, super calm. But if it 127 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 1: was me, oh no, I mean when I was in Nashville, 128 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 1: I had my girlfriend. I was driving with Leslie. We 129 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: were going to Green Hills. I had to pull over 130 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 1: on the side of the road because I was like, Lesia, 131 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: I'm getting dissiy, I need to drive, like I can't 132 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 1: do this. I was trying to be strong. I can't 133 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: do it. You just can't do it. I can't. I 134 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,680 Speaker 1: feel your pain, and I always do. I'm glad you 135 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 1: do because now I don't feel as alone because there's 136 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 1: there's a time to This is what I say in 137 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: my head. At any point, I can stop my car 138 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: and get an uber and that helps me a little bit. 139 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: Oh that's that's good. So that like helps knowing that, 140 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,960 Speaker 1: like I can pull over, park my car, called an 141 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 1: uber and drive me to the next point. Yeah, I 142 00:07:24,280 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: wonder do you think anywhere else? No, really, I have 143 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: no other anxiety. But people drive so fast on the 144 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: on the freeway out here, and that's where I get 145 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,240 Speaker 1: so scared. Yeah, it is scary. It's like it just 146 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: almost become I'm frozen, and that scares me because a 147 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: frozen car on the freeway, it's not a good thing. 148 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: But now we should we definitely should have someone on 149 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:52,000 Speaker 1: so we should get amy on that because I mean 150 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: Amy won't even go up an elevator or on an 151 00:07:54,200 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: Airplane's got all kinds of weird things. You're so elevator alone. 152 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know how she could never live 153 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: in New York. Um, yeah, no, I know, never unless 154 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:11,080 Speaker 1: she wants to get some really good butt workouts and 155 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 1: flights up. So I want to tell you that I 156 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: finally watched him neids. Do I did. I've been watching 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: over the fourth of July. I know you did, And 158 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: I have some questions for you for me about this. Okay, Yeah, 159 00:08:27,200 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: I was just wondering and um, number one, did you 160 00:08:31,360 --> 00:08:34,720 Speaker 1: love it? Oh? I's so dark. I love anything dark. 161 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 1: That's the thing where at first I was like, I 162 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: don't know if I'm gonna like this, But then I'm like, oh, 163 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna love this once it got into it because 164 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: I just it's so dark and twisted that I'm like, 165 00:08:44,640 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 1: give me more. Well, Also, did the relationships stop trigger anything? 166 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:57,360 Speaker 1: I'll say this, anything that's related to my situation is 167 00:08:57,360 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: always triggering. I'm like, I said, like with the tryst, 168 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: and I'm like that's so you know the kardashi Like, 169 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: how can a Kardashian drama trigger me? But it. Did 170 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 1: you know how it can like you know, I mean, 171 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: it can be there. Anything correlated with it makes me 172 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: and I you know, if it's even in a movie. 173 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: Like we were watching something their day and they said, 174 00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 1: you know, um something about an affair, and I was like, 175 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: and it's everywhere. So I'm like, I'm constantly like dodging 176 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,200 Speaker 1: like things and having to like, I mean, now, the 177 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 1: good news is is that I don't oh, like you've 178 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 1: made me feel these things, and now I'm able to 179 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: just be like, okay, and then it goes passes. But yeah, 180 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, it's definitely it is triggering, for sure, but 181 00:09:39,679 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 1: I'm at a point now where I can watch it 182 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: and enjoy it and enjoy it and just be aware 183 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,079 Speaker 1: that you're feeling that way just because of those are 184 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 1: your feelings, and not take it out on him. That's good. Good. 185 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: But I used to be I used to do that, 186 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: take it out on him for sure, right, But you've 187 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: had all this growth, you know, you're more, You're so 188 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 1: self aware now. But I love the fact that Rita 189 00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: is she's she knew she can't be a mom on 190 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: the show, but she's a mom to two boys. So 191 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: I'm excited to kind of see what, you know, the 192 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: differences so cool and whose side is she on? Oh, 193 00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, that's tricky. Yeah, but I just love 194 00:10:15,800 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 1: something like for myself. I love being able to like 195 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 1: what I was like, it was my time away. I 196 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,920 Speaker 1: was like, hey, am I going to watch this like you? 197 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: You get to watch your like he watches the show 198 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:26,079 Speaker 1: called The Last O G And I'm like, I'm going 199 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: to watch head Maid still leave me. And then right 200 00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: that you gave yourself permission to have some meat and 201 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: it was so great. I mean I blamed it on work. 202 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm interviewing me like Amanda. But at 203 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: the same time, I was like, oh, I'm like loving 204 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 1: this meantime. Yeah, you need to schedule it in. I 205 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: think I'm going to just like I have my Wednesday nights. 206 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: You need to have your you know whatever. You're very 207 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: true you Saturday afternoon, when I was also thinking something 208 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: today to um what I was, he was asking me 209 00:10:53,520 --> 00:10:55,680 Speaker 1: about my day and I was like, well, you know, 210 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: filming the podcast and recording podcasts and I have to 211 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 1: go pick up a few things and I really really 212 00:11:01,160 --> 00:11:03,080 Speaker 1: want to get my nails done. But for some reason, 213 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I had I didn't tell him because I didn't want 214 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: him to be like, oh, I have to work and 215 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: you're gonna get your nails done. I'm like, why can't 216 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: I just why do I have to feel bad about 217 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: getting my nails done? I haven't had to nass On 218 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: and over a month and a half like why can't 219 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: we why? Like for some reason, I felt like I 220 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,360 Speaker 1: couldn't say that because then he'd be like not that 221 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:24,120 Speaker 1: he would, and he wouldn't at all. He'd be like, absolutely, babe, 222 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 1: go do your thing. Like he's the most supportive about 223 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: like my time, but I have a hard time making 224 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: my time my time. That makes sense. It's mom guilt, 225 00:11:32,080 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 1: is that what it is? It's mom guilt. It's but 226 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: it's not about me not mind to see Joey because 227 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: I just had two weeks with her and I'm like, 228 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,920 Speaker 1: I need a minute, but yet I still have a 229 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: hard time giving myself that minute. So this is my 230 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: first step was the handmad style and now and you 231 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 1: are working, Yeah, but I mean to me, this is fun. 232 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,280 Speaker 1: You know what I mean? I know and he's said, 233 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 1: you know what I do my Instagram stories? But whatever, 234 00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 1: Remember I told you guys, I think it was episode one. 235 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: I was saying that I'm so boring. Only watched like 236 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: mom stuff. I watched like, you know, Puppy Dog Pals 237 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: and The Mickey Mouse Club, and I said I needed 238 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,600 Speaker 1: to find a show, and everyone told me about Handmaid Stale. Whoa, 239 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:14,200 Speaker 1: I have beene watched it, and I'm so excited that 240 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:20,319 Speaker 1: I have Amanda Bruegel in the studio today. Hey girl, 241 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,840 Speaker 1: I okay, let me just say this. So when I 242 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: first saw the image of Handmaid Style, I thought it 243 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: was going to be like little house on the prairie, 244 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,439 Speaker 1: I know, because like the like it was like the 245 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: hats and like you know what I mean. So I 246 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: was like, I don't know what it was. I just 247 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 1: thought it was going to be like a little house 248 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:37,439 Speaker 1: on the prairie. It is not a little house on 249 00:12:37,480 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: the prairie. Girl. It took a turn for you that day. 250 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: It's like, but I like love dark stuff. Well then 251 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: you're good. Yeah, Like I mean, I I binge watched 252 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: over the fourth of July, and I really love your 253 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 1: character because it's like you you play Rita. Do you 254 00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 1: wanna tell the listeners who haven't watched Handmaid Stale? Well, 255 00:12:56,120 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: I play Rita and Rita is uh, Martha basically Handmaid's tale, 256 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: don't you can't have kids? You can't have kids, And 257 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: so the Handmad's tale just women that are fertile are 258 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: taken and forced into being made a sort of cattle 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 1: breeding cattle. And the women that can't have kids Martha's 260 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: are just essentially cooks and cleaners, were sort of the 261 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 1: slaves of the houses where the handmaids live. And so 262 00:13:18,679 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: I live in the main house where the main handmaid, 263 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: who's Elizabeth Moss, lives. And the crazy thing about that is, 264 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,920 Speaker 1: but you do have two boys, so you're like, I know, 265 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: you get to play like two very different roles. I know, 266 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's just fun, right, It's it's God, 267 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: It's so much fun. And I love the idea of 268 00:13:35,520 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: not being a handmaid. See, I have a theory about 269 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: my character. I think that she is fertile. I think 270 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: that she just happened to pull a fast one on 271 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 1: them just so she could. Like, if I were to 272 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 1: do it, I would probably be a Martha too. You're 273 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: a cook, you're a cleaner. You don't get ceremonious, like, 274 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: you don't get raped every month. It's true, very true. 275 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: But like if it was more like of a little 276 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,080 Speaker 1: house in the praise, which it's not like he would 277 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 1: want to be like the they're not just like the 278 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: cook and the cleaner. But even though I feel like 279 00:14:03,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: being a mom is a cook and a cleaner and 280 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like they take everything from 281 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: No we do, we do do everything, We do everything. 282 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: I know it's the worst and it is crazy dark 283 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: as a mom too, so but no, it's when are 284 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: you going to let your kids watch? Never? So my 285 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: kids knows that. So I'm Cannadian, like, okay, where in Canada? 286 00:14:20,800 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: From Toronto? Okay, oh I love Toronto. Yeah, I'm from Michigan, 287 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: so I like we'd go up there the same. We're 288 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 1: like nineteen yeah, yeah, you must have loved it well 289 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,160 Speaker 1: and my kids don't. It's not really like there's not 290 00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: posters everywhere like there are here and it's not really 291 00:14:34,080 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: you live in Canada, live in Canada? Yeah, yeah, like 292 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Canadian does it? Is it not? But they have Hulu 293 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 1: in Canada. No, we don't know, and we will watch it. 294 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 1: It's on like a sister program called Bravo, but it's 295 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:46,800 Speaker 1: on on Sunday nights. It's a little more obscure there, 296 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: So my kids don't really I'm on another kids again 297 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,440 Speaker 1: four and seven. Oh yeah, yeah, there's so yeah, that's yeah, yeah, 298 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: that's but they don't know, like I mean, they know 299 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: you're an actor's obviously they do, but they think that 300 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,880 Speaker 1: I like, they think that I just go and I 301 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: put on a dress and I go to work and 302 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: I do like I put on dresses and then I 303 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:05,560 Speaker 1: come home. Like they don't really know yet, and that's 304 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm happy with that exactly what I do. Exactly what 305 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: if only they knew? Yeah, I know, I know. So 306 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 1: they they they're interested and they're starting to hear more 307 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: about it. I guess. Sometimes when I drop my one 308 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 1: son off at school, the teachers haven't meltdown like some 309 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: of his teachers like either start to cry or they 310 00:15:22,120 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: panic because they like they're meeting you. I mean, it's like, 311 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 1: well it's I mean the people that watch it and 312 00:15:28,120 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: I get it now, it's like you become like a cult. Yeah. Yeah, 313 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: it's crazy. It's intense, it really is. I was on 314 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: the street. I mean, it's nominated for everything. It's like 315 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: who knew Hulu? You know what I mean. It's like, right, 316 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,320 Speaker 1: I'm like in the beginning, you're like, oh, Hulu, that 317 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,400 Speaker 1: network is Now it's like nominated, I mean is like 318 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: I know, I know, and I know, and the nominations 319 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: come out tomorrow the next day. Yes, yeah, fingers crossed. Yeah, 320 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: everyone's going to get No, I'm not, but like, why 321 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: would you say that. I think you're amazing, But it's 322 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: not for you. That's so nice if you But they're 323 00:16:00,120 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: so many more people like I feel like Yvonne who 324 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: plays Serena Joy, It's like, I think she's going to 325 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: get her first nomination. I hope she is. Alexis bladell 326 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: and out Elizabeth, like, I think everyone's going to kill it. Well, 327 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you guys, because now I'm like a 328 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: super big fan. What's your favorite and least thing about 329 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: your character? I love I love um how quiet she 330 00:16:22,720 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: is and how sort of silent it is. She you 331 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: say a lot through not talking. Yeah, and I love that. 332 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: And it was hard at the beginning. At the beginning, 333 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 1: I was like, am I gonna just chop vegetables all 334 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: the time? Because I'll do it. I mean, I'll do it, 335 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: show me the paycheck, I'll do it. But I'm not 336 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: gonna be like but yeah, but like I grew to 337 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: love it because as an actor, you just just sort 338 00:16:42,640 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 1: of rely on your words and you don't really it's 339 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 1: a lot of headless, sort of weird heads just floating 340 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,320 Speaker 1: around with no bodies. And so I really started rely 341 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: on physicality and stuff and I put rocks in one 342 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: of my shoes to give her more of a limp, 343 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: and I have like, I started leaning on stuff to 344 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: create more of a three dimensional person through eykelity. So 345 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:04,960 Speaker 1: I love, love love that. Um. The on the flip 346 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: side of that, it's hard sometimes when you're playing someone 347 00:17:07,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 1: who is so mysterious, you can get not bored of it. 348 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,600 Speaker 1: But I'd like to know. I'd like to know a 349 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:15,480 Speaker 1: little bit more about her, Like she's even so much 350 00:17:15,480 --> 00:17:18,160 Speaker 1: of a mystery for me personally that I'm like, what's 351 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:21,640 Speaker 1: your favorite color? Right? Right? What do you? I would 352 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 1: just like to know a little more about her, And 353 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: I think that's going to happen in season three. Do 354 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: you have a say, like do you get to talk 355 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:28,080 Speaker 1: to the writers to come to say like, hey, this 356 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:29,679 Speaker 1: is what I would like to see her. You just 357 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,480 Speaker 1: are kind of like just thankful, I'm happy to be 358 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:34,320 Speaker 1: here kinda yeah, we do. They're really they're crazy collaborative. 359 00:17:34,359 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 1: I'm just honestly, all of us are just happy to 360 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: be there. But there they understand and they listen, but 361 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:41,679 Speaker 1: they also have a vision, Like they're so specific. I 362 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 1: think they have like the next like nine years mapped out, 363 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: so they they already know where they're going there. I mean, 364 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: as an actor, it's like to know that like you're 365 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: on like an insanely hit show, I mean, and then 366 00:17:53,160 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: to know that like you've got years to come. How 367 00:17:56,560 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: freaking lucky you are? Yeah, I'm lucky. But none of 368 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: us know, none of us or saying I think the 369 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: only person that's say really is Elizabeth and but every 370 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 1: all of us, like they say all the time, all 371 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 1: of us could go at any second. And that's so mean. 372 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:11,560 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know some brownies I made 373 00:18:11,600 --> 00:18:16,159 Speaker 1: for y'all. I know. I'm just so happy to be 374 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,440 Speaker 1: here and so grateful and I love my trailers. Yes, 375 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:21,679 Speaker 1: no problems at all. Yeah, yeah, totally. I mean, but 376 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: it's like on the side, they're like, what are you doing? 377 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,600 Speaker 1: Like because for me, like, um, I was on a 378 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 1: show called One Tree Hill and it was great. I 379 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:30,439 Speaker 1: love my character, but you kind of for me, I 380 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: was I got a little board getting the mundane, even 381 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 1: though you're so grateful and so happy, but it's just like, okay, 382 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 1: now this becomes a job. So are you doing anything 383 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: on the side, Like you're doing a movie once a year. 384 00:18:40,200 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 1: I do that, and I also do a Canadian series 385 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: as well. It's a comedy in the summers. It's like 386 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,439 Speaker 1: my summer, so I'm living here for the summer, but 387 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,680 Speaker 1: I fly back and forth to do that. What's that called. 388 00:18:49,760 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: It's called Kim's Convenience. It's like The Cosby Show, but 389 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,159 Speaker 1: with Koreans in a convenience store, so it's nothing like 390 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: the Cosby Show. I don't know why I said that, 391 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: just the culture. Like a lot of people I found 392 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: in the eighties could relate to the Cosby's as a 393 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: family and loved them, um even though they didn't look 394 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,760 Speaker 1: like them. The same thing with this this show. It's 395 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: just a bunch of Koreans being crazy. I love it. 396 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:11,439 Speaker 1: So you're able to have like a different outlet and 397 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 1: kind of get away from Rita totally and that totally, 398 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:17,640 Speaker 1: And I came from comedy. I only had done comedy 399 00:19:17,680 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: really before, Like I did a movie called Room with 400 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,800 Speaker 1: re Larson. Oh yeah, I did a couple other things, 401 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: but I but comedy is sort of my thing, and 402 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: so being able to really go back there after something 403 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 1: so dark like Handmaids, it's good. It's like summer camp 404 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 1: for me. So I love that. That's so that's so 405 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: crazy that your comedy. And then you're like a Handmaids 406 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 1: to I know, and not speaking and so mean and 407 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: angry all the time. What does your husband think about? 408 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:41,440 Speaker 1: Do you even bring that home by accident? I'm kind 409 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: of like that at home, especially at home a little bit. 410 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: If I have to chop a lot, I don't like topping. 411 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't like doing. He not help, No, No he does, 412 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: he does. He'll help barbecue, okay sometimes years fifteen years. 413 00:19:57,359 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: We got married young. We did it young. I'm like, 414 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 1: you your right, so the forty one, so we got 415 00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: like younger than that. That's really just like she's like 416 00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:10,960 Speaker 1: by the way I walked in and I was like, 417 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:14,159 Speaker 1: you're a Barbie doll, talked in human Barbie doll. So 418 00:20:14,359 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: you know, they made me do this because they're like, 419 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,160 Speaker 1: please don't look like Rita and embarrassing on the streets. Um, 420 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: but uh no, he loves it. My husband's a police 421 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:26,639 Speaker 1: officer in Canada and so it's a very different we 422 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 1: have very obviously different lifestyle. So it's like he's living 423 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 1: the real yala, like really messed up situations every day 424 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: that are real. And I come home and I was like, 425 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,400 Speaker 1: oh god, it was so hard at work. And he's 426 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: the one who grounds me because he's a bit like, really, 427 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:41,959 Speaker 1: none of it's real, right, And us have two boys? 428 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: Two boys? Are you done? Or do you want your 429 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 1: got done? You didn't want to No, no, I did, 430 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:49,479 Speaker 1: but it's over. The party's over. I'm not doing anything. 431 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:53,160 Speaker 1: It's the worst. Two pregnancies. So we were talking before 432 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 1: um we got on air and I was telling her. 433 00:20:56,720 --> 00:20:58,119 Speaker 1: I was telling her that I'm pregnant and I've been 434 00:20:58,160 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: really sick and I was still throwing up. And you 435 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,880 Speaker 1: said that you had hypoamesis. I did and she had 436 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 1: she were you do you have the tubes in your 437 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: arm that Ivy went to filming? I did when I 438 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 1: was filming. When I was filming a different show. It 439 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:11,240 Speaker 1: was a comedy. It wasn't funny at all, but I 440 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 1: would be still this is King and every every morning 441 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: and makeup because I found for me mornings were really 442 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,159 Speaker 1: really bad, and by the end of the day the 443 00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:22,360 Speaker 1: medication kicked in. But for me, the medication the side 444 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:25,479 Speaker 1: effects with the though frand I just got really like 445 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 1: loopy and kind of stoned. So there was like this 446 00:21:29,640 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 1: high pregnant lady on set. It worked for the character, 447 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,440 Speaker 1: I guess, yeah, sure, totally, and it's yeah, so I 448 00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:38,879 Speaker 1: wouldn't even though I did it twice and I love 449 00:21:38,920 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 1: it and I love my boys, They're so great. But 450 00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: there's no no, I'm not doing it again. I totally 451 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,200 Speaker 1: hear you. I'm this is my second and I'm done. 452 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm done. Did you have it before? I 453 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,680 Speaker 1: was really sick with my daughter Jolie, But this is 454 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: by far the worst I've ever been. Terrible. I had 455 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: a girlfriend is now taking a side track, but I'm 456 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,000 Speaker 1: going to tell you anyways, I had a girlfriend that 457 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:01,199 Speaker 1: she did it for her third She was hospitalized at 458 00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 1: like I don't know, the twelfth week, hospitalized all the 459 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: way until she had a baby, like in hospital, couldn't move, 460 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 1: couldn't sit up all. Right. Well, then we're a little 461 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 1: grade Okay, Yeah, let's be grateful for what we have. 462 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 1: What's the worst thing about your marriage. Okay, the worst 463 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: thing a time if you're married to if you're married 464 00:22:18,480 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 1: to someone who does shift work. And I didn't know 465 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:23,720 Speaker 1: this before signing up, but ladies or gentlemen out there, 466 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 1: I just really think hard when you marry someone who 467 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,199 Speaker 1: does shift work, because you're never they're never there. So 468 00:22:28,240 --> 00:22:31,840 Speaker 1: what does that mean? Like shift work? Like like shift work? Um? 469 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,680 Speaker 1: Like who doesn't work for like a nine to five 470 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: His shifts are like he'll sometimes start at eleven o'clock 471 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 1: at night and then come home at seven am in 472 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 1: the morning. And when you have two kids or just 473 00:22:43,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: even when you want to see each other, I'm up 474 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: all day and he's and when I'm sleeping, he's up. 475 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:50,719 Speaker 1: And it's just it's that's the most difficult thing, right 476 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,879 Speaker 1: Is he able to fix that? Or No? No, unless 477 00:22:53,880 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: he quits so he could be the one cutting shopping things. 478 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: Yeah he could, but he was not. That's probably not 479 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: his No, it's not his jam. I think he just 480 00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:08,240 Speaker 1: wants to run with a gun all the time. So 481 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: weird um, because yeah, I'd say that's the most difficult 482 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: thing about us. Otherwise, um, the balance, like balancing each other. 483 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: I think that if I had married, if anyone is 484 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: married to an actor or someone in the creative field, 485 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 1: that's great. But I think two people in the business 486 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: at the same time it can be good. But the 487 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 1: situations I've seen it go like crazy. Yeah, I've never 488 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:32,560 Speaker 1: I've never been able to make it work. Ever. I 489 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 1: dated like actors and I also did country I dated. 490 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: It's like this never works. You dated country, Well, so no, 491 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,080 Speaker 1: I used to be a country I'm a country artist 492 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,479 Speaker 1: and I've dated a couple of country artists too, and 493 00:23:43,520 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: that never works. Yeah, and there's a lot of like 494 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: jealousy behind the scenes and like so much. Yeah. I 495 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: just dated one actor and I remember booking something. It 496 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:56,240 Speaker 1: was Friday Part ten. It wasn't even that good. Like 497 00:23:56,440 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 1: if you're going to be jealous and he needs he's 498 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: jealous of the Handmaid stale Now he is, I know 499 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 1: he is, but he he was like I he couldn't 500 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,760 Speaker 1: be happy for me. I was still in university. It 501 00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 1: was my first job, and he didn't talk to me 502 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:12,880 Speaker 1: for a month. He was like, I don't answer my phone, 503 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: Like don't call me, don't We're just gonna have to 504 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 1: take a month break. So I accepted it, and I 505 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 1: was like, well, maybe this is the way it goes 506 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: when you're dating an actor. No, it's just not normal. 507 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,159 Speaker 1: It's no, it's not. But I will say, like on 508 00:24:22,200 --> 00:24:24,119 Speaker 1: the flip side, like I was really jealous, like when 509 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: I was dating someone and he was like headlining stuff, 510 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: and I'm like, I want to be headlighting. Really, you know, 511 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: I don't know. I just I got jealous. But were 512 00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: you younger at the time I was hanger, I was 513 00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,679 Speaker 1: in like and had yeah, and I like, like I 514 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: had had success on like other sides of things, and 515 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,280 Speaker 1: so it's just I don't know, yeah, yeah, And now 516 00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 1: i'd be like happy for someone. But I like the 517 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: fact that my husband has has something different. But he 518 00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,560 Speaker 1: does that shift work too, because he was in medical sale, 519 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: so like he doesn't like some days he'll work, He'll 520 00:24:51,640 --> 00:24:53,160 Speaker 1: leave it five thirt in the morning. We'll come home 521 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,439 Speaker 1: to like eleven o'clock at night and I'm like, hello, 522 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,439 Speaker 1: I've done this that And now also like bade their 523 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 1: child and fed in and then I'm frustrated and he's like, well, 524 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,200 Speaker 1: I'm tired too. I'm like I don't give a crap, 525 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,120 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like I'm a different time, 526 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: Like my soul is tired from these children, is what 527 00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: I tell him all the time, Like, I know you're 528 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: physically tired, but my heart is tired. Well, I tell 529 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: him this, I go, I feel like my daughter abuses 530 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 1: me throughout the day, Like I'm just like, she give 531 00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: me so mean sometimes, like psychologically, well, like she's she's 532 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,719 Speaker 1: a toddler. So she's two and a half. So it's like, 533 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:24,040 Speaker 1: you know, when she gets mad, she hits me, and 534 00:25:24,080 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: I'm like, Joli, you can't hit mommy, and like she's 535 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 1: just like her like temper tantrums. I'm like, I feel 536 00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:33,119 Speaker 1: like she's just like she tears me down sometimes. Yeah, no, 537 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,440 Speaker 1: I know, yeah, I know. I have my four year 538 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: old does that and he's I think I said three before, 539 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: but he's four. He just turned four. I forget his 540 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,439 Speaker 1: birthdays because he's the one I don't He's the one 541 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:46,199 Speaker 1: I don't like um, but he he there are times 542 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 1: when I regret him so much and he's so wonderful. 543 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 1: But also no, I could have done without him. But 544 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:56,880 Speaker 1: I always say like I can't wait to put them 545 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 1: to bed, and then I'm but at the same time, like, 546 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:00,879 Speaker 1: oh I kind of miss I don't want to go 547 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: in I said that to a friend of mine. I 548 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,399 Speaker 1: go through the whole day, and then at the end 549 00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:06,560 Speaker 1: of the day, I'm dying and I just have one 550 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,560 Speaker 1: glass of wine and I'm clenching it and I'm throwing 551 00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: them in their bedrooms. And then I go downstairs and 552 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 1: then I just look at pictures of them for that day, 553 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:14,960 Speaker 1: like what is wrong with them? I know it's so bad. 554 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: I will just I just want to say that I 555 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 1: am just like so excited to have my wine again 556 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: because it's like, yeah, it's tough to drink wine. Yeah, no, 557 00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: I know, I didn't. I try. That's my piece, that's 558 00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: my time. It's not even my piece, it's just my 559 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: it's like brushing my teeth. It's just part of my 560 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: day with the wine. Being a mom and I'm like, 561 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,479 Speaker 1: I have grandfriends like, oh, I don't drink every day. 562 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, you will when you have kids, you will. 563 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: And when you have to, Yeah, it's you have to. 564 00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 1: If you don't black lying like you're lying, you're doing 565 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: trusting everyone trust them in that person, there's just no 566 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: trust to be had, and it's so much more fun. 567 00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 1: It's fun for everyone. And I'm not advocating being an 568 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: alcoholic mom. But I am because everyone has fun that way. 569 00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:56,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's it's it's fine, it's our thing, you know. Well, 570 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: I like I. I so appreciate you being on the show. Um. 571 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 1: I think you're fantastic. I think you're beautiful. You're a 572 00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 1: great role model for kids, and you're on it's your mom. 573 00:27:07,160 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 1: What's you get mom? To all the alcoholic moms out there, 574 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 1: we'd love you. We stand with you and haymates tell 575 00:27:12,960 --> 00:27:16,399 Speaker 1: season three ones are coming out October. We start filming, 576 00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 1: So season three comes out next year. Where do you 577 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 1: guys filming in Canada? Oh my god, that's so great. 578 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 1: I know, I don't have to go anywhere, which is 579 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,880 Speaker 1: like I'd like more rather film here because it's warm. 580 00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 1: But also my kids are in school, we have a routine, 581 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:30,200 Speaker 1: my nanny's there, so it's great. I love it. Yeah. Okay, 582 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: you guys give it up for Amanda. Okay. Green Chef. 583 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: Green Chef is also amazing. It's the first U s 584 00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: D a certified organic meal kit delivery service that includes 585 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: everything you need to cook delicious, scourmet meals that you 586 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 1: can feel good about. 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So go to Green Chef dot U 597 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 1: s slash Janna. That's Green Chef dot U s slash 598 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:33,280 Speaker 1: Janna for fifty dollars off your first box of Green Chef. 599 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:40,240 Speaker 1: That's green Chef dot us slash Janna. Okay, So Amanda 600 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 1: was by far the sweetest girl ever. I'm so excited 601 00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 1: that I got to meet her, and I'm really really 602 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: really pumped. I mean, this has just been such a 603 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 1: fun day, so so much girl time because I have 604 00:28:50,000 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 1: two of my favorite girls in the studio right now, 605 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: Maddie and te and I love the fact that I 606 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: got a sheet about Maddie and team, like you guys. 607 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: I don't need a sheet about Maddie and Tay. Like 608 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: I know everything about you girls. I love you girls, 609 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,440 Speaker 1: I mean so much to catch. I was like we 610 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 1: started kind of talking the halls and I'm like, ship, 611 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: we just have to stop because this is good stuff. 612 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: I'm going to tell you two fun facts about Maddie 613 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:21,520 Speaker 1: and Tay. Um. The first is, so, you know, like 614 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,560 Speaker 1: when you're pregnant and you give birth and you're in 615 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 1: the hospital and you know, management usually sends you flowers 616 00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: and then like you know, it's just like it's like, oh, 617 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: that's sweet, like my labels, let me flowers, or oh, 618 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: let's sweet my management, and then I get a beautiful 619 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: bouquet from Maddie and Tay is a huge deal. You 620 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: should get flowers from everybody. But I was like so sweet. 621 00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: I mean, that was just like it was literally like 622 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 1: cut c sectional and I was like, oh, Maddie and 623 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 1: so like I would just I will never forget that. 624 00:29:53,960 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: It was like the sweetest thing, and I was just 625 00:29:55,720 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: expecting flowers for the second round. Give us that for 626 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,680 Speaker 1: my hospital. But the second one is they have a 627 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: song on my record that they wrote called did you 628 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: know This Easton and by the way, Easton's gonna jump 629 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,920 Speaker 1: into because he's like a mad like mad tape, like 630 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: he's so excited. He's like, all right right now in 631 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 1: the corner. It's like But they wrote Boomerang, which is 632 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,320 Speaker 1: on my thirty one album, which I loved it. It 633 00:30:24,400 --> 00:30:27,160 Speaker 1: was like so rock and roll and sexy. It was. 634 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: I remember we got to play. I can't remember what 635 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 1: show it was that we did together, but use a 636 00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:33,680 Speaker 1: radio show, right. It was a radio show. I think 637 00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: it was in Seattle or something. It was with bits. 638 00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: I know it was freezing outside. It was freezing and 639 00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: you were pregnant with Jolie, and um you sang Boomerang 640 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, man, you worked it. I was 641 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,000 Speaker 1: like so grateful that you cut that song. Well, thanks 642 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: for letting me have it. Um. I don't even know 643 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: where to start because there's just so much, like I 644 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: want to talk about, like everything, but let's start with 645 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:05,680 Speaker 1: the label debuckle. Yes, okay, So they jo so and listeners. 646 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: They were on Big Machine, which is Scott Borshadow label. 647 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:11,920 Speaker 1: Well there was dot. It was like a version of 648 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: the Big Machine label, the Taylor Swift label. Everyone calls 649 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 1: it an imprint Imprint and who else was on Dot 650 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:26,720 Speaker 1: Early Bears, Straight White, Um, Tucker be third, I think 651 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: Steven Tyler, Steven Tyler, Um, I can't really remember. So, 652 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: I mean they were I mean your guys, you know, 653 00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,280 Speaker 1: Girl and Country song was. I mean, that song blew 654 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 1: up so fast. You guys were an absolute overnight sensation. 655 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 1: I mean you have to have felt that too. I 656 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: mean you were on every morning show and late night show. 657 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: I mean, it blew up huge, wild. I didn't realize 658 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:53,120 Speaker 1: that it was huge, No, I just I was like, Damn, 659 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: that's huge. That was all we knew. Yeah, we were 660 00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: just like it was all we knew at that time, 661 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: Like we didn't know how cool it was until being 662 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: on the other end of things and seeing what it's 663 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 1: like to not like have all that stuff going on. Huh. 664 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: But I mean it makes you appreciate it now. But 665 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: I mean we were only nineteen when all that happened, 666 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: so we were just like we had no idea what 667 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,239 Speaker 1: was going on, just pretending like we knew what we 668 00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,760 Speaker 1: were doing. We still don't know we're doing, let's be real. 669 00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 1: But it was hard to find time to stop and 670 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: smell the roses. Honestly, it was just you know, it 671 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 1: was every day which were very grateful for now being able, 672 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: like Maddie said, to look back and realize, oh okay, 673 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,360 Speaker 1: that's not that's not the norm or a brand new 674 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:38,840 Speaker 1: artist to kind of have that right exactly that success. 675 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: But it was crazy. So what then happened? Where was 676 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:50,880 Speaker 1: the fall? So in yeah, December, well it was technically 677 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: very very beginning of two thousand seventeen, but we had 678 00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 1: actually gone in to start cutting our second record, our 679 00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: sophomore record, December of two thousand sixteen, so we were like, 680 00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: all right, we're gonna release our second record on this label. 681 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: Everything's luncky dorry, It's fine, let's do this. And then 682 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 1: very beginning like February ish is when we kind of 683 00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 1: got the news that things were Yeah, so it was 684 00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: basically I don't we don't know the business side of it, 685 00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: but the label folded so we were left with like 686 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,280 Speaker 1: just we had no idea what to do. So has 687 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 1: this confusing like joint venture thing where basically Big Machine 688 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: partnered with Universal and that's how Doc came about. So 689 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: Universal had the first rights, like the first right of 690 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: refusal for us, so instead of all the other artists, 691 00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, they all went to Big Machine, but since 692 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 1: Universal it was a COVID. It's so confusing, like so yes, yeah, 693 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:53,920 Speaker 1: other imprints like Republic or Valerie or whatever. So basically 694 00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: we were just waiting for a while, like is Universal 695 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: going to pick us up? Like are we gonna have 696 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: to go shop a deal or what are we doing? 697 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: And then Universal was like super pumped and really wanted 698 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: um to you know, make this record with us. But 699 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: it was this weird, like three month period because it's 700 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: like we had to wait a certain amount legally to 701 00:34:13,920 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: sign stuff. And then yeah, it was just months. Doesn't 702 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 1: sound like a crazy blog and like not being on 703 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: the charts exactly staylevant? What do you do to let 704 00:34:27,560 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: people know, Hey, we didn't fall off the planet Earth. Yeah, 705 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,319 Speaker 1: and so you know, three months doesn't sound like that long, 706 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: but it was. And especially it's almost like you start 707 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: over a little bit, and we were already starting to 708 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,400 Speaker 1: make our second record, and we already already wanted like 709 00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: a rebrand, you know, to show that we're not eighteen 710 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 1: year old girls anymore. We're twenty two. We wanted to 711 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 1: create a new, more mature record, and so doing all 712 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,920 Speaker 1: of that and starting over completely on a new label. 713 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: Was just it was amazing. It was exactly what we needed. 714 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,919 Speaker 1: It was the blessing in disguise. But at the time 715 00:34:58,920 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 1: it was just like, oh my gosh, just this kind 716 00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,120 Speaker 1: of take forever. That's what I felt like. We always 717 00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,440 Speaker 1: compare it to like, you know, this music industry is 718 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: such a little bubble and it's really hard to understand. 719 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 1: So it's like if you get laid off from a job, 720 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: and like sometimes your self worth gets tied up in 721 00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 1: your job and so you think, oh, if I'm not 722 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,120 Speaker 1: working or I'm not working enough, or someone else has 723 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: a better job than I'm a crappy person. It's like, no, 724 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:23,879 Speaker 1: it's that's just the situation. You're just going to figure 725 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,480 Speaker 1: out another situation and move along. But like that whole 726 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel good. But and I want to say, 727 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:34,040 Speaker 1: I really appreciated your vlog that you did about that 728 00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,600 Speaker 1: feeling because I remember, like, you know, when you have 729 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 1: such like Why I Wanted was my number, Like it 730 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 1: was my first single and it was a big success, 731 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: and then I had huge and I had some you know, 732 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 1: failure songs that didn't really climb the charts, and then 733 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 1: you know, got the boy was huge, but it after 734 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: that it was like back down and being like, why 735 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,320 Speaker 1: am I not charting? Like I just had a huge 736 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: top five like and then now I'm like and then 737 00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: it unfortunately success equals how you feel about yourself and 738 00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,600 Speaker 1: you don't feel good enough and you're like you like 739 00:35:59,840 --> 00:36:02,480 Speaker 1: I nobody and I'm this and that, and then so 740 00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 1: hearing like seeing your side of like the depression and 741 00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,239 Speaker 1: pain that went wrong because it's it's hard. Well, the 742 00:36:10,239 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: thing is with the new So we finished the album 743 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: with UMG, we're going to release it, I think either 744 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,279 Speaker 1: the end of this year or early next year. We're 745 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: super pumped about it. But if we didn't go through that, 746 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: and I didn't go through my depression and all that 747 00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: funky stuff, we would not have written the record that 748 00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: we wrote. So it's extremely personal, extremely raw, and the 749 00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: only way that that could have happened. So this whole year, 750 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: I feel like has been just a big learning lesson, 751 00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:38,359 Speaker 1: like there's always purpose for pain and whatever, like you're 752 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,879 Speaker 1: if if it's if you have faith in God, if 753 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,480 Speaker 1: it's just whatever it is that keeps you going, like 754 00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: just I on the prize and just don't get discouraged 755 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: but it's so much easier said than done. It is, 756 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: isn't it? And you get it can be very confusing, 757 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,960 Speaker 1: and you two are so young, you two have learned 758 00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: that you are not what you do. Yeah, biggest lesson, 759 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: thank you. Going through this is the entire reason that 760 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,200 Speaker 1: we learned that. But I also think, you know, moving 761 00:37:08,200 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 1: out we've moved to Nashville from our um home states 762 00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:14,960 Speaker 1: when we were seventeen, so by ourselves, our families were 763 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,919 Speaker 1: still in our home states, and so I think just 764 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 1: it was an accelerated growth, you know. And I think 765 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: just going through a lot of jumping into the music 766 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: industry so green, so naive at that age, really helped us. 767 00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 1: But we didn't learn that you aren't what you do 768 00:37:29,080 --> 00:37:32,719 Speaker 1: until until this entire thing so hard, I mean, I 769 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: still have a hard time, Like you're going to always 770 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:38,360 Speaker 1: like fight with that. It's a choice. It's totally a choice. 771 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,239 Speaker 1: Like and the comparison game too, Like I have to 772 00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:44,840 Speaker 1: I have to unfollow people and it yeah, you gotta 773 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: do it, like I can't. You gotta do it. And 774 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: then I'm like and I get jealous seeing people headlining 775 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,319 Speaker 1: things and I'm like, wait a minute, Like what like 776 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,120 Speaker 1: I have to unfollow. And the crazy part is like 777 00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,200 Speaker 1: the person that you're comparing yourself to is comparing themselves 778 00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: to someone else. So it's like it's this whole cyclical 779 00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: crazy things. So I've I've unfollowed people that I'm like, 780 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 1: it's nothing against this person, whether it's a you know, 781 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,920 Speaker 1: an actor or whatever. I'm just like, I just feel 782 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:16,080 Speaker 1: badly like myself feeds the negative. So I'm just like, 783 00:38:16,120 --> 00:38:18,359 Speaker 1: I try to keep it clean. How do you guys 784 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: not because right now, you guys have an incredible song 785 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: out and by the way up North hous jamming to 786 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: it friends. The song is called friends Don't. I think 787 00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,919 Speaker 1: it's so catchy and it's so it's so true. It's 788 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 1: just like friends don't do that, you know what I mean. 789 00:38:30,120 --> 00:38:32,040 Speaker 1: So it's like, what you're doing this and that? But 790 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,719 Speaker 1: how do you not define? Because country charts are the 791 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 1: worst things imaginable. I mean, it's incredibly hard to get 792 00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:39,719 Speaker 1: on the charts. It's incredibly hard to stay on the 793 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: charts and then make your way up. So how are 794 00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:46,680 Speaker 1: you not defining? Like chart success for the success of 795 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 1: how great that song is definitely impact on the fans. 796 00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:51,840 Speaker 1: I feel like it's very easy to look at a 797 00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: chart and get so wrapped up in what number and 798 00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 1: who's you know, getting ads and who's not getting ads 799 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: and how many ads are you getting this week? You know, 800 00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 1: But the moment you step on stage and you play 801 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 1: to an actual crowd and you see the connection being made, 802 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,600 Speaker 1: that's enough for me, and that's enough for us to 803 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 1: just be able to be like, Okay, it's reaching somebody. 804 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,600 Speaker 1: If it's reaching somebody, it'll reach their friends, It'll you 805 00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean. I feel like our purpose is 806 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:16,759 Speaker 1: being served if we're able to actually sing a song 807 00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:19,279 Speaker 1: that people relate to. But it is hard to like, 808 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,240 Speaker 1: so hard because like right now, I think we're fifty 809 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: something and it's I mean, the single looks really healthy, 810 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: and we've got a great team behind it and everything's great. 811 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: But like whenever you see your friends that are just 812 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: like crushing it, and like you're like, you want to 813 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: obviously celebrate others, but you're like, I want to go 814 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:39,160 Speaker 1: kick some mass too, you know. But patience is a virtue. 815 00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: I feel like I just I can't look at the 816 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,560 Speaker 1: charts because I'm just like, Okay, we we did our job, 817 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,319 Speaker 1: and our job is to make music and connect with 818 00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:50,800 Speaker 1: fans and do that and now you also do your job. Okay, 819 00:39:51,840 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: managers and labels in the room right here? A team, 820 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: I mean, it definitely is. It's it's teamwork and it's hard. 821 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: And where have you guys? You have to tell me 822 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,959 Speaker 1: that you guys have thought. Wait, okay, you're not gonna 823 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: you're not gonna believe us, don't. I don't want to 824 00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,440 Speaker 1: hear you. Guys have never had one fight. We disagreements, 825 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,479 Speaker 1: but we've never yelled at each other. Nor it's never 826 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: been catty. It's always been like, why do you feel 827 00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,239 Speaker 1: this way? I feel this way because this it's it's 828 00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: actually very grown up and respectful. You can ask anyone 829 00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:24,759 Speaker 1: in our and you know it's crazy. It is like everyone's, oh, 830 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,879 Speaker 1: they're two young girls. They fight, are are like they're 831 00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: the guys fight more than yeah, band guys they yeah, 832 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:35,240 Speaker 1: Like I mean, our bands amazing, But there's more drama 833 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,920 Speaker 1: with them than there ever is with us. With us, 834 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:41,600 Speaker 1: But with us, we have so much respect for each 835 00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:46,399 Speaker 1: other and like we we go by the golden rule, 836 00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: Like I'm going to speak to her the way that 837 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,239 Speaker 1: I would like, Yeah, I don't, I don't ever want 838 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,840 Speaker 1: and I think it's such a balance. We're definitely the 839 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: being to the yang, Like she's her personality and my 840 00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,360 Speaker 1: personality and we work well, very two different personalities. And 841 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,719 Speaker 1: I would have always thought that you were more of 842 00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: the quiet, quieter and you're very like you're very you know, 843 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:10,160 Speaker 1: and it's like, I'm so introverted, crazy. I love it 844 00:41:10,239 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: so but I think you guys are great role models 845 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 1: for girls out there, and you too too. Um, what's 846 00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 1: the biggest pet peeve? Then you gotta give me something 847 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,040 Speaker 1: about Maddie. Yeah, oh oh, I can tell you know, 848 00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,399 Speaker 1: I can tell you my biggest pet peeve. I think 849 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:28,080 Speaker 1: I like to think that I have a poker face 850 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,799 Speaker 1: this gal call out. No, I'm being dead serious, Like 851 00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: I'm very I won't say guarded, but I'm reserved and 852 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: I'm very private person. And I like to think that 853 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,239 Speaker 1: I can hide my emotions when I'm upset about something. No, no, 854 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: no, no no no. It makes me so mad. But she's like, 855 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 1: I know something's wrong, wouldn't know it's and she doesn't 856 00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,480 Speaker 1: want to tell me, And so I'm just like, whenever 857 00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:52,600 Speaker 1: you're ready, Like I just staring to herself. Yeah, really 858 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 1: have a pet peeve. Oh shush, I'm like really trying 859 00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:59,640 Speaker 1: to think because I mean we've been together for seven years, 860 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:03,440 Speaker 1: so that's incredible. By the way, So and like friends 861 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,839 Speaker 1: and we still hang out like off the road on 862 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: the road like we like we're just best friends. It's 863 00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,560 Speaker 1: almost more sisters where it's like that close where there's 864 00:42:11,560 --> 00:42:14,799 Speaker 1: no like no one's going anywhere, like we are in 865 00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,759 Speaker 1: it to win it, exact family. At this point, you 866 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: don't have any fears, like tastes gonna be like tomorrow, 867 00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:24,160 Speaker 1: she's gonna be like a soul artist. No, it's funny. 868 00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: I know she knows I would never do that either, 869 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,799 Speaker 1: just like worried it to win it. But um, I 870 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't really have any pet peeves. And 871 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: I think it's because we've been together for so long 872 00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,440 Speaker 1: that if there was a pet peeve, like I've already 873 00:42:36,440 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 1: gotten used to it. Yeah, so I don't really know exactly. 874 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: I know what I actually staring to your soul and 875 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:44,840 Speaker 1: figure out what's wrong. She does, and she takes a 876 00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: wrench and she just slowly opens my heart up, and 877 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 1: I'm like, you just got gaged. Yeah she did. I'm 878 00:42:55,960 --> 00:43:05,520 Speaker 1: so excited. We clapping like there is a Maddie end 879 00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,799 Speaker 1: to day. Um so how long we got together? For 880 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,839 Speaker 1: give me the whole scoop? Yeah, forever? I feel like, right, yes, 881 00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,520 Speaker 1: So we've been together since we are sophomores in high school. 882 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,400 Speaker 1: So I met him like a couple of months before 883 00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,480 Speaker 1: I met or maybe what a year before I met? 884 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 1: Yea six months I feel like yeah, not yeah, six months. 885 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:27,359 Speaker 1: So I So we were together and then broke up 886 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,440 Speaker 1: for a year. It was high school, so you know, 887 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: and then my senior year, like he was like trying. 888 00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I was still like madly in love 889 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,480 Speaker 1: with him, but I was like I was trying to 890 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: play matchmaker. I'm very bad at playing, but I would 891 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:41,640 Speaker 1: keep trying to set her up on these dates and 892 00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:45,479 Speaker 1: shoot my pet peeve, I'm a very bad match makers. 893 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:47,640 Speaker 1: There we go. I knew you could find one, but 894 00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,000 Speaker 1: I was like, no, you gotta try this one, try 895 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,919 Speaker 1: this one. She was like, not Jonah. Every single time 896 00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: I would say it's not Jonah. And so then my 897 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: senior year of high school we reconnected and got back together, 898 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,239 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I'm even to Nashville. Also, 899 00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: do you want to just like, you know, call it quits. 900 00:44:02,560 --> 00:44:04,400 Speaker 1: You go to college and he's like no, and so 901 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: he gave me a promise ring and had this whole 902 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:11,279 Speaker 1: spiel and so we have stayed together and like I 903 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:14,960 Speaker 1: still like get giddy around him, and I'm like if 904 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: I still have a crush on him after seven years? 905 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:21,040 Speaker 1: I love him and you like him. I know, he's 906 00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:24,239 Speaker 1: just a good one. So his personality is almost identical 907 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 1: to taste, like very like even kill like relax, laid back, 908 00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:34,400 Speaker 1: but just yeah, but weird. That's so sweet, we know, 909 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,600 Speaker 1: not weird. When do you guys get married? Like, I 910 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:39,080 Speaker 1: know you can't tell me the date, but like I 911 00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,920 Speaker 1: just see your next year, next September as when we're 912 00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: thinking because I'm like, a wedding takes so much and 913 00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,200 Speaker 1: we're on the road. I've done it three times. So 914 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: if you want to like any like any advice, Oh 915 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: my gosh, don't we like get a little like barn 916 00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:00,799 Speaker 1: out in Nashville. That's really cute, And so I think 917 00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:03,279 Speaker 1: we're just gonna we just want something really casual. I 918 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:05,560 Speaker 1: just want an epic dance party. That's all I want. 919 00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,080 Speaker 1: I want to like smooch and say Lord, blessed as relationship, 920 00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 1: black party, drink dance be done. I love that. So 921 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: so Joan and I we had a handshake on four years. 922 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:23,759 Speaker 1: Um okay, we said like seven would be like the 923 00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: minimum age. We joke that we're going to get pregnant 924 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,080 Speaker 1: at the same time, so we can rock the bumps 925 00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:32,520 Speaker 1: on stage, cut well, and we can schedule and they 926 00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,000 Speaker 1: can all be best friendly, easy on our manager, you know, 927 00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 1: totally to choose which delivery room to go to. That'll 928 00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:44,520 Speaker 1: be interesting. D Yeah is good though, Yeah, but that 929 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: I don't know. I feel like it's going to be 930 00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:51,040 Speaker 1: more like thirties for us. Yeah, I just I want 931 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,359 Speaker 1: a lot of kids. I just don't want them for 932 00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 1: a long time. Well, if you want a lot of kids, 933 00:45:55,800 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 1: you should do it before because it's like, right, it 934 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:03,360 Speaker 1: starts to get i mean past thirty five year geriatric 935 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,440 Speaker 1: pregnancy and the risk go up and so it's it 936 00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: becomes like a higher Because that's why I sound like 937 00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: I want to be done at thirty five. So I 938 00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: wanna pop this out in November, right before thirty five. Yeah. Yeah, 939 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:15,480 Speaker 1: but I mean, like how many kids are we talking? Well, 940 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: this is the thing. Yeah. Jonah comes from a really 941 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: big family. He's one of five children and all birth 942 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: naturally by his awesome mom. Yea naturally natural. Yeah, I 943 00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: ain't playing those games. No, it's not gonna call it 944 00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:34,839 Speaker 1: the contraction. I'm like, well, um, I think, I mean 945 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,319 Speaker 1: we'll tay and I both like, I think we want three, 946 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:41,720 Speaker 1: both of us. Mum, yeah, minimum is three because like two, 947 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,640 Speaker 1: I grew up with one sister and that was like, 948 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:45,520 Speaker 1: I love my sister, but it was a little boring, 949 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: so like if we were mad at each other, it 950 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,920 Speaker 1: was like tough, you're just gonna have to be by yourself, 951 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: or you can get along with your sister. And that 952 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:55,760 Speaker 1: wasn't a great option. You see, I have two brothers, 953 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:58,120 Speaker 1: so I feel like three was a good it's a 954 00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:03,120 Speaker 1: good number. And I say, hi, Hi, guys, are you 955 00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 1: Jesse Jesse? Yes, No, I'm not. No, I like the 956 00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: I like the name change. No I'm not. So it's 957 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,719 Speaker 1: so funny because around the same time, I just had 958 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: a crazy year of change, which I'm so thankful for 959 00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:19,760 Speaker 1: because around the same time as a label thing happened, 960 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 1: I had a three year relationship, committed relationship and yeah, 961 00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:29,879 Speaker 1: Jackie not Jesse, Um, I know you like sweet? Yes 962 00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:31,799 Speaker 1: he is, and he he went through a lot um 963 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,000 Speaker 1: he's got he dealt with cancer. He did. He dealt 964 00:47:35,000 --> 00:47:37,600 Speaker 1: with cancer about that, like, we're also together when he 965 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:41,040 Speaker 1: was going through keem Yes. Yes. So when we first 966 00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:45,319 Speaker 1: found out that he had cancer, it was October of 967 00:47:45,320 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 1: two thousands sixteen, which was six months after his mom 968 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,160 Speaker 1: had just passed away. Yeah, from cancer or from cancer. 969 00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 1: So we found out in October, and then he had 970 00:47:56,600 --> 00:48:00,759 Speaker 1: it removed in December and in at that point he 971 00:48:00,800 --> 00:48:03,920 Speaker 1: was cancer free. Um. But then around the time that 972 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: we split up in August, he ended it. Why. He 973 00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: just felt like he needed some soul searching to do. 974 00:48:11,920 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 1: He said it himself. He was very lost and just 975 00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: needed to was that. I mean, that's gotta be tough 976 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:20,319 Speaker 1: because you were going through your yes, and exactly. Yeah, 977 00:48:20,320 --> 00:48:22,640 Speaker 1: so I was kind of double it was a double whammy. 978 00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:29,680 Speaker 1: But thank goodness because our record is awesome. But yeah, 979 00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:33,440 Speaker 1: you know, I'm so thankful because it's hard. You know people, 980 00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:37,640 Speaker 1: Um no, I was like, um no, we're not on 981 00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,880 Speaker 1: speaking terms, but I would I would never wish any 982 00:48:40,920 --> 00:48:44,360 Speaker 1: animosity towards him or anyone. But you know, it's funny 983 00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 1: because people always say you have to go through the 984 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,000 Speaker 1: stages of grief, like you have to get angry and 985 00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 1: you have to, and I just don't. I don't necessarily 986 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:54,000 Speaker 1: believe in that. I was never at any point mad. 987 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 1: I was obviously sad, and I was like, oh man, 988 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,160 Speaker 1: this sucks because change sucks. But I was already going 989 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,839 Speaker 1: through change with my career, so it was almost like 990 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,600 Speaker 1: get it all out of the way. Yeah, it's like, 991 00:49:03,880 --> 00:49:06,600 Speaker 1: this is nothing, you know. Um, it was very hard. 992 00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: It was very hard, but you know, I just had 993 00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,440 Speaker 1: a perspective of like, he's kind of doing me a 994 00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 1: favor because he's releasing me to go find the person 995 00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,719 Speaker 1: that I'm supposed to be with, you know, and woman, 996 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 1: the woman that you're growing into be exactly. This tay 997 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:22,799 Speaker 1: of being best friends for seven years, this is my 998 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: favorite tay, and I think it's yours too. It's my 999 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:29,440 Speaker 1: favorite version of myself. I've never felt strong. I have 1000 00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: no fears exactly, and I'm still very reserved, but more 1001 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: to the point of, I can you know, I can 1002 00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,279 Speaker 1: share my feelings and I can let people in and 1003 00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 1: it's it's awesome. So you're you're single as can be? No, no, no, 1004 00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:45,560 Speaker 1: I'm actually very much in love, which is yes, thanks guys, 1005 00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,480 Speaker 1: which is why I'm like, thank you because you let 1006 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,360 Speaker 1: me go find the person that God created for me, 1007 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,240 Speaker 1: which is so you know, his name is josh Joshua Peter, 1008 00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: very Christian. Yeah, and he loved Jesus. What did you say? 1009 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,240 Speaker 1: Jen said? Where is he? Where is he from? Originally Buffalo, 1010 00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,239 Speaker 1: New York? But yeah, so he lives in Nashville. Now 1011 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: is he an artist? No, he's a songwriter? You oh, 1012 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:13,800 Speaker 1: probably maybe? Probably. That's really cute and how long you 1013 00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,480 Speaker 1: have been dating? For um since March? But you know, 1014 00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:20,799 Speaker 1: we definitely lived friends, don't so we met. I mean 1015 00:50:20,840 --> 00:50:23,360 Speaker 1: we actually met like four years ago sorry, on radio 1016 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 1: tour in Passing because he was playing guitar out on 1017 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:28,839 Speaker 1: the road and it was like, you know, we kind 1018 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:30,480 Speaker 1: of hung out in the same crowd but never really 1019 00:50:30,640 --> 00:50:33,080 Speaker 1: talked to each other. And then we wrote together for 1020 00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 1: the first time in October sessions but I called it 1021 00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:40,800 Speaker 1: the first session. I was like, he is so into 1022 00:50:40,800 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: you and she like, but we had both just gotten 1023 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 1: out of relationships and we're just like some fantastic the 1024 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,560 Speaker 1: best time and you know, it's so unexpected, and we 1025 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,279 Speaker 1: fought it for a really long time. So we did 1026 00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 1: the dance until December, and then we went on our 1027 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,120 Speaker 1: first day in December and then continue to do the 1028 00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,040 Speaker 1: dance of like friends down friends zone, we do but 1029 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 1: we don't. So then we officially started dating in March. 1030 00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:06,839 Speaker 1: And yeah, guys, real love is good when it's real, 1031 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:08,880 Speaker 1: when it's real product, you guys are just like in 1032 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: such a good space. There's a great energy to you, guys, 1033 00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: like you gotta go through a really sorry, no it's okay, 1034 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,400 Speaker 1: it's but it's like you really that makes you appreciate, 1035 00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: it makes you grow, It makes you become, you know, 1036 00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:25,319 Speaker 1: the woman, like I feel like as a woman you 1037 00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,840 Speaker 1: have to go through things to make yourself even more beautiful. 1038 00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,560 Speaker 1: And like, you guys are just you guys look amazing. 1039 00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 1: You're stunning like your song friends don't. It's fantastic And 1040 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,920 Speaker 1: I know I'm excited. Estan is so excited for you 1041 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,279 Speaker 1: record to be coming out. Yeah, crushes, I just wanted 1042 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 1: to tell you guys, Oh yes, I love you stood 1043 00:51:46,080 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: up like awesome friends, Doughe is a jam growing a 1044 00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:55,800 Speaker 1: country song is a jam. Shut up and fish is 1045 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:58,160 Speaker 1: a jam. But you know, my favorite song right now 1046 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: is no Place like You. That song, like that song 1047 00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:05,319 Speaker 1: must get the most killer like reaction live because like 1048 00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:07,319 Speaker 1: it's a lot of fun to play live. Oh my god, 1049 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: the sun comes up, Like I told you the other day, 1050 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:18,040 Speaker 1: Like I'm a new Jack country fan, Like I was 1051 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,080 Speaker 1: not into country until very recently, but like like her 1052 00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,439 Speaker 1: music and like when I first hearched up in Fish, 1053 00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:24,960 Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, these girls have it 1054 00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:28,239 Speaker 1: and like no place like the especially I don't know. 1055 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: It's just like that song is you have a lot 1056 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:33,279 Speaker 1: of music like makes people feel really excited, and like 1057 00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: I almost like punched my way through the windshield when 1058 00:52:35,480 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: I hear that song. It's because it's so exciting, like 1059 00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: no place like you, that kind of thing you don't 1060 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:46,960 Speaker 1: on the road and you don't ride in though to 1061 00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:48,799 Speaker 1: not be a country fan and then go to shut 1062 00:52:48,840 --> 00:52:52,919 Speaker 1: up and fish, you know, it's it's because it makes 1063 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 1: me feel like nostalgic and like a warm memory about 1064 00:52:57,320 --> 00:53:01,799 Speaker 1: something I've never experienced. Like I'm from like northern California, 1065 00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,200 Speaker 1: like in a beach town, Like I don't know fishing, 1066 00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,000 Speaker 1: there's no fishing, there's no I don't take my truck 1067 00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:08,320 Speaker 1: out to the edge of town and like turn on 1068 00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: the tail lights and you know, like that's okay. I 1069 00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:13,080 Speaker 1: don't know why people started putting I don't I don't 1070 00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,520 Speaker 1: have any of those experiences, but I love country songs 1071 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: so good anyway, Just like like you guys got me 1072 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:24,239 Speaker 1: really like deep into this music. I'm excited for you 1073 00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 1: to hear the new album. I can't wait and it 1074 00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:30,040 Speaker 1: thanks you for writing real vulnerable you're feeling. But I 1075 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:32,719 Speaker 1: think that's what that's what people relate to. That's what 1076 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:35,960 Speaker 1: people want to feel because it's like they've gone through 1077 00:53:36,040 --> 00:53:37,759 Speaker 1: things that you guys have gone through and they want 1078 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,040 Speaker 1: to feel the same thing. I think. So that's the 1079 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:44,200 Speaker 1: big like misconception. Did I say that at the right way? Yeah, yeah, okay, 1080 00:53:44,200 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: I always feel like I mispronounced that word every time. Um, 1081 00:53:47,120 --> 00:53:49,280 Speaker 1: but people think just because you're in the public eye 1082 00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: that you don't struggle, you don't have anything like no, 1083 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:58,120 Speaker 1: it is almost more I would say, than you know regular. 1084 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,080 Speaker 1: But um, that's our kind of why we put out 1085 00:54:01,080 --> 00:54:03,640 Speaker 1: that video on YouTube, just kind of explaining everything because 1086 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:06,040 Speaker 1: and I mean, the cool thing with this podcast is 1087 00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:10,279 Speaker 1: it's very raw, unfiltered, and like you said, I feel 1088 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,120 Speaker 1: like that's how people connect and like if we're just 1089 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,879 Speaker 1: like if we're not what we do, we are who 1090 00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:17,719 Speaker 1: we are. This is not gonna make sense, but I 1091 00:54:17,800 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 1: understand if you know what you're singing a song that 1092 00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,600 Speaker 1: you haven't related to or you haven't been through, people 1093 00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:25,360 Speaker 1: aren't going to buy it exactly literally buy it. Yeah 1094 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:28,759 Speaker 1: you have to like feel it and yeah totally. But 1095 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,480 Speaker 1: I love you girls, Thank you for you. Guys download 1096 00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:34,359 Speaker 1: friends don't. Their album is going to be coming out 1097 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: early next year. Check it out and thanks. Thanks. Okay, 1098 00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: So I love vitamins, but I also get super over 1099 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,640 Speaker 1: overwhelmed who I'm an in vitamin shop. 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So I take vitamin D, I take 1110 00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,759 Speaker 1: something else for my skin, for my hair, and then 1111 00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:20,560 Speaker 1: also for to help with Just Digestion. For off your 1112 00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:23,560 Speaker 1: first month of personalized care of vitamins, visit take care 1113 00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: of dot Com and enter Cramer. That's take care of 1114 00:55:26,640 --> 00:55:30,479 Speaker 1: dot Com and enter Cramer for off your first month 1115 00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:34,600 Speaker 1: of personalized care of vitamins. Take care of dot Com 1116 00:55:34,640 --> 00:55:42,640 Speaker 1: and enter Cramer. Oh oh my gosh. Those girls. I 1117 00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:47,359 Speaker 1: love them. Their energy is off the charts. I just 1118 00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,360 Speaker 1: love the fact that they've been through it all because, 1119 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: you know, because they had I mean, A girl in 1120 00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:58,240 Speaker 1: a Country song was ginormous. I mean it was huge, 1121 00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: they were everywhere it was. It was is a ginormal, 1122 00:56:01,239 --> 00:56:03,399 Speaker 1: ginormal song. And for that to be their first thing, 1123 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:06,759 Speaker 1: it's like if they would have just kept having those hits, 1124 00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 1: which yeah, I would have been amazing for them, but 1125 00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: they wouldn't be making the music they're making now. And 1126 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:12,880 Speaker 1: let me tell you, guys, I just heard a sneak 1127 00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,760 Speaker 1: peek song that's going to be one of their next 1128 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,359 Speaker 1: either the second or third single. It's incredible. I mean 1129 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:25,640 Speaker 1: they are writing with like confidence and experience and passion 1130 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,359 Speaker 1: and it's like surety, surety, Yeah, It's like that's and 1131 00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: it's so great to see because they're growing and their 1132 00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:35,160 Speaker 1: fans are growing with them, and they're just and I'm 1133 00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,280 Speaker 1: really I'm happy, you know, I'm obviously I'm so happy 1134 00:56:38,320 --> 00:56:41,280 Speaker 1: that Maddie is engaged in so sweet. I'm so excited 1135 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:44,120 Speaker 1: for her. But he is a different person now. I mean, 1136 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:48,200 Speaker 1: she's just, she's lighter, she's um. I'm really I'm really 1137 00:56:48,200 --> 00:56:51,319 Speaker 1: happy for you can definitely tell that heartbreak sometimes gonna 1138 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:53,440 Speaker 1: be the best thing for you. It's the best growth. 1139 00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: And those girls are so grounded, they're being so young. Well, 1140 00:56:58,200 --> 00:56:59,720 Speaker 1: and here's the thing to you, Like, in the beginning, 1141 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,360 Speaker 1: when a group comes out like that, you're like, I 1142 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: give them two years to fight, break up and be 1143 00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:07,600 Speaker 1: over and just and it's like you never hear from 1144 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,640 Speaker 1: them again. 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Give it, give 1182 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:21,439 Speaker 1: it a go, Easton, mess it up. My my big chance. 1183 00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:26,000 Speaker 1: I hope I don't let you down. Hey Janna, I'll 1184 00:59:26,000 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: start off by saying I'm a huge fan and actually 1185 00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,960 Speaker 1: met you at the ponderous A Lodge in Portland, Oregon 1186 00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:33,200 Speaker 1: back in You were so sweet and inspiring and still are. 1187 00:59:33,560 --> 00:59:35,240 Speaker 1: I love your podcast and I really relate to your 1188 00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 1: relationship with your husband. I feel like there's a lot 1189 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:41,040 Speaker 1: of trust issues, miscommunication and manipulation. We're just not on 1190 00:59:41,080 --> 00:59:43,520 Speaker 1: the same page. I'm so confused as to why he 1191 00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:46,000 Speaker 1: choose to sit and play video games instead of instead 1192 00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:48,360 Speaker 1: of have sex with me. That word make you nervous? 1193 00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,240 Speaker 1: What the heck? I'm twenty seven years old, tall, skinny, 1194 00:59:53,240 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: and cute. I'm like you, I want to have sex 1195 00:59:55,360 --> 00:59:57,560 Speaker 1: more than he does, and I don't get it. When 1196 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,280 Speaker 1: I talked to him about it, he gets very defensive 1197 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 1: and shuts down. He always says I'm beautiful and sexy, 1198 01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: but never wants to hang out with me or have sex. 1199 01:00:03,600 --> 01:00:06,400 Speaker 1: He'd rather play video games. He's huge into making me 1200 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,680 Speaker 1: feel guilty for asking for help. I've asked him to 1201 01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:11,400 Speaker 1: go see someone with me and he refuses, so I 1202 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,040 Speaker 1: need help trying to get him do agree to go 1203 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: with me? How should I convince him? Oh, I'll let 1204 01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:21,560 Speaker 1: you go first. I have a lot to say, Jen, 1205 01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 1: I love you. Um okay, Taylor Number one. I appreciate 1206 01:00:26,320 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: you talking to your husband and asking him for what 1207 01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,320 Speaker 1: you need. I think that's a huge gift that you're 1208 01:00:32,360 --> 01:00:35,480 Speaker 1: giving him by asking him what you need. I think 1209 01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:40,120 Speaker 1: it's really disappointing that he's just straight up refusing to 1210 01:00:40,240 --> 01:00:44,720 Speaker 1: go to therapy, but also more so not giving you 1211 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:49,200 Speaker 1: what you need when you're asking him what you need. Um, 1212 01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:51,800 Speaker 1: you know, maybe if I will say this, if you're 1213 01:00:51,880 --> 01:00:54,200 Speaker 1: yelling at him in a big argument and that's how 1214 01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,040 Speaker 1: you're telling him what you need, maybe he's just not 1215 01:00:56,120 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: hearing you. So my advice would be to sit down 1216 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:03,920 Speaker 1: with him, no, not angry and not super triggered upset, 1217 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 1: and just be like, hey, I really need to talk 1218 01:01:05,400 --> 01:01:07,040 Speaker 1: to you. And if you've done that and he's still 1219 01:01:07,080 --> 01:01:11,320 Speaker 1: not being receptive to you and still being that way, 1220 01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: then then you have to I mean to me, you 1221 01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:15,560 Speaker 1: have to really look at your marriage and be like, 1222 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,000 Speaker 1: is that something that I want to live with with 1223 01:01:17,080 --> 01:01:21,600 Speaker 1: someone who I've sat down been vulnerable with and you 1224 01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:24,240 Speaker 1: know he he doesn't want to go talk to someone. 1225 01:01:24,280 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 1: I mean, right, Jen, I agree this is coming. You know, 1226 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a psychologist, but I'm I also was 1227 01:01:33,800 --> 01:01:37,400 Speaker 1: in a marriage and went therapy. If you cannot force 1228 01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:41,440 Speaker 1: someone to go to therapy, you cannot force them to 1229 01:01:41,520 --> 01:01:44,479 Speaker 1: be open to it, you cannot force them to grow 1230 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:48,800 Speaker 1: as a person. And if they don't want to go 1231 01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:53,240 Speaker 1: after you have expressed your needs to go talk with 1232 01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:57,200 Speaker 1: somebody and try and grow through this issue you're having, 1233 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: then you do you have to sit and evaluate your 1234 01:02:02,000 --> 01:02:05,000 Speaker 1: marriage and where you want to be and what you 1235 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:10,800 Speaker 1: need out of life. Yeah, I agree, bottom line, And again, 1236 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,880 Speaker 1: just you know, make sure you're not because sometimes when 1237 01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:16,560 Speaker 1: I was trying to tell my husband what I need. 1238 01:02:16,840 --> 01:02:19,240 Speaker 1: He would I would be saying it from a very 1239 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:22,040 Speaker 1: angry place, and he wouldn't hear that. He would just 1240 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:24,800 Speaker 1: hear it as me nagging or me bitching to him, 1241 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:27,480 Speaker 1: Like if you come to him and really sit down 1242 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:31,000 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm at the point where I don't 1243 01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:33,200 Speaker 1: think I can be in this relationship anymore because I've 1244 01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: asked you these things and you're still not willing to work. 1245 01:02:36,040 --> 01:02:40,000 Speaker 1: If he doesn't get off the fucking couch and put 1246 01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:46,560 Speaker 1: down his fucking remote controller, walk the out the door, Taylor, 1247 01:02:46,840 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: listen to Janna right now telling you, I'm telling you, 1248 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, you are tall, skinny, and cute. 1249 01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: Like you said, you want to have sex. I'm telling 1250 01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: you there is going to be someone out there that 1251 01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:01,840 Speaker 1: wants to have sex with you too, Okay, Because if 1252 01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:04,400 Speaker 1: he doesn't wake up and go to therapy with you 1253 01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:08,400 Speaker 1: so you guys can work this out and you don't leave, 1254 01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,240 Speaker 1: you're going to be forty saying the same things. And 1255 01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:15,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a for divorce. I'm not saying get divorced, 1256 01:03:15,160 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 1: but I'm saying to sit down and communicate and talk 1257 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 1: to your husband if he is not willing to work. 1258 01:03:19,840 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 1: Why do you want to stay in that kind of situation? 1259 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:25,000 Speaker 1: All right? That just made me so angry. I'm done 1260 01:03:25,040 --> 01:03:28,200 Speaker 1: with the show. I'm over it. I'm done. I'm going 1261 01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,080 Speaker 1: home and I'm gonna go yell at my husband for something. 1262 01:03:30,120 --> 01:03:32,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what, but I'm going to find something 1263 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 1: to occupy him. John, I love you, I'm miss you, 1264 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:41,800 Speaker 1: and I love you, thank you, and um yeah, I'm 1265 01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 1: really excited to wind down next week because we've got 1266 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:48,040 Speaker 1: some stuff to talk about. We sure do. Until next time,