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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Wire to Hunt podcast, your home for

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Speaker 1: deer hunting news, stories and strategies, and now your host,

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Speaker 1: Mark Kenyon. Welcome to the Wired to Hunt podcast. I'm

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Speaker 1: your host Mark Kenyan. In this episode number tay the show,

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Speaker 1: we're joined by Dan Perez of White Tailed Properties to

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Speaker 1: discuss how to buy a hunting property. All right, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Wire to Hunt podcast, brought to you by

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Speaker 1: Siker Gear. And today we're talking about the dream, the

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Speaker 1: dream of owning your own piece of hunting ground and

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Speaker 1: joining us as someone who knows all about that dream

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Speaker 1: and how hunters can achieve it. And that's Dan Perez,

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Speaker 1: the CEO of White Tailed Properties. But before we get

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Speaker 1: Dan Perez on the line, Mr co host Dan Johnson,

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Speaker 1: what do you think about us referring to you as

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Speaker 1: Dallas today so we can avoid that name issue. That's fine,

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Speaker 1: go for it, because I I feel like a Dallas

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Speaker 1: for Worth today. Do people still call you that or

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Speaker 1: did that kind of fade by the wayside? Uh, it's

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Speaker 1: it's faded, But there's a handful of people out out

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Speaker 1: there that still call me Dallas or DFW or something

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Speaker 1: like that. Well, we're bringing it back today Today that's

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Speaker 1: fine today. So so Dallas, have you ever thought about,

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Speaker 1: dreamed about or well, I don't know if you ever

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Speaker 1: want do you want to buy farm? Do you want

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Speaker 1: to buy piece of hunt property? Uh? That's a dumb

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Speaker 1: question mark I figured it. I figured it was Hell,

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Speaker 1: yes I do. I mean that's everybody's dream right to

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Speaker 1: have a some type of property that that you can

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Speaker 1: call your own. How do you feel about that? Though?

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Speaker 1: Like when you when I when I say those words

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Speaker 1: buying a hunting property, does that get you just excited?

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Speaker 1: Does that make you hopeful? Does it make you scared?

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Speaker 1: Because like for me, I asked that because like when

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Speaker 1: I start thinking seriously about buying a hunting property, someday

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Speaker 1: I get like all nervous. I want it, but then

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Speaker 1: it makes me like scared, Like can I really do that?

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Speaker 1: Is that smart? I don't know? What do you How

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Speaker 1: do you feel about that? It's definitely one of those

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Speaker 1: things that you just don't go, you know what, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna go buy forty acres, you know, or something like that,

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Speaker 1: I mean, or even ten acres. You don't you don't

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Speaker 1: just do it. It takes you know, obviously, it takes

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Speaker 1: some kind of planning, and then there's also a realization

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Speaker 1: that it's not just you don't you don't buy land.

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Speaker 1: You gotta pay property taxes on it, you have to

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Speaker 1: you know, there's other things that go into it. I

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Speaker 1: assume they know this is just me, assuming maybe Dan

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Speaker 1: can clear some of this up for us. But there's

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Speaker 1: there's more. It's more. It's not like going to a

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Speaker 1: car dealership or or really even like buying a house.

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Speaker 1: I mean you have to you have to prepare for it,

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Speaker 1: I would assume. Yeah, definitely, definitely seems like and I

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Speaker 1: have not bought a property of any kind other than

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Speaker 1: just a lot that my house is on. I bought

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Speaker 1: and that's all I've ever bought. Right the same for you,

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Speaker 1: maybe yep. I mean I live in a neighborhood, so

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Speaker 1: so you've dreamt about buying hunting property? Have you ever?

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Speaker 1: Actually do you? Do you actually think you're going to? Have?

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Speaker 1: You seriously considered like this is something that's going to

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Speaker 1: there's obviously, you know, for me, and it might be

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Speaker 1: different for you, but for me, there are prior these

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Speaker 1: a priority change right now? You know, for me, any

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Speaker 1: up some some more, you know, possibilities for spending on

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Speaker 1: maybe a piece of property or you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: But that's just what it is. It would it's x,

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Speaker 1: it would be extra income. It's not a priority, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean? Right, So, realistically, do you think

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Speaker 1: or be where you know, I can't even count to ten.

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Speaker 1: Well that's your fingers, that's not your own fault. But anyway,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Or sell that, sell that piece,

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Speaker 1: And you know it's a little bit different from me

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Speaker 1: because I can I can try to justify it in

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Speaker 1: like it's just a huge commitment. If you buy a

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Speaker 1: You're not only committing financially, but you're also committing you know,

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Speaker 1: or websites like white Tail Properties website and others, and

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Speaker 1: I go to white Tail Properties. You know, we're talking

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Speaker 1: about white Tail Properties today. But I go on their

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Speaker 1: it's like, oh, here's, um, here's a pretty affordable hundred

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Speaker 1: I can see how I could maybe get that some day.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, oh, here's another four acres in southeastern Iowa

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Speaker 1: that has my name all over it. Right. Here's the game,

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Speaker 1: Dan or Dallas. Sorry, here's what we're gonna do, Dallas. Yeah, Dallas.

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Speaker 1: Let's say I gave you, uh, five thousand dollars. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna gift you five five hundred thousand dollars right now.

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Speaker 1: Let's say somehow I won the lottery. I have that cash.

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Speaker 1: I've given it to you to purchase a hunting property

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Speaker 1: How are you going to use that five thousand dollars

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Speaker 1: right now and giving your dream property within that half

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Speaker 1: million dollar price range? Tell me all about how much

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Speaker 1: time do we have? We have six six minutes my

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Speaker 1: dream piece of property, I mean, don't get me wrong,

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Speaker 1: I would love to own like a mountain side where

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Speaker 1: I have the opportunity for elk and mule there and

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Speaker 1: maybe even white tails on it, you know. But if

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Speaker 1: perfect The perfect five thousand dollars is probably going to

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Speaker 1: get just somewhere around Oh. I want to say, let's see,

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Speaker 1: five thousand dollars, you're looking at somewhere around two acres,

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe less d fifty to two hundred acres, just

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Speaker 1: what's around it. But I feel you can get more

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Speaker 1: or floodplain area. So what I would I would want

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Speaker 1: hard to access through. You know. For one side, I

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Speaker 1: and the other one would be you know, obviously fence

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Speaker 1: want I would want it real thick, real nasty, real steep,

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Speaker 1: And because I'm not afraid to put in hard work,

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Speaker 1: like I would say forty maybe thirty or tillable and

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Speaker 1: then sixty two se timber and like young mixture of

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Speaker 1: you'd want it right there. You wouldn't want to go

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Speaker 1: down to the far south? Huh? Well, I mean my county,

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Speaker 1: the county that I do most of my hunting in,

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Speaker 1: I would consider that south right right right? I thought

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Speaker 1: you were talking about where you currently houses, Yeah, where

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Speaker 1: currently high? Yeah. I mean there's some good property around

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Speaker 1: around here too. It's just I would want to get

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Speaker 1: away from a bigger population, so I would probably head

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Speaker 1: back to my hometown. Yeah, yeah, that's good spot. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It just depends, you know, like from what I hear

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Speaker 1: like prices and what we can talk to Dan about this.

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Speaker 1: But prices land prices are on their way down, I think,

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think so because I mean maybe

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Speaker 1: tillable ground, because I think value of the commodities like

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Speaker 1: soybeans and ordering down that definitely does have a huge

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Speaker 1: influence on pricing, that's for sure. Well, Dan will definitely

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Speaker 1: be able to give us some more details on that,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I definitely want to ask him about that.

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Speaker 1: I uh, I think our dreams are pretty similar. My

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Speaker 1: my property would be something pretty similar like that. I like,

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Speaker 1: I like the idea of about thirty open tillable about

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Speaker 1: the rest cover, but I'd like a mixture of I

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Speaker 1: want some timber, but I want a lot of CRP

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Speaker 1: and like early successional growth. I love me some you know,

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Speaker 1: some some grass, some switch grass, some warm season grasses

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Speaker 1: and stuff like that. Some cedars um, like you said,

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Speaker 1: economy takes a dip um, there's nothing that you can

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00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:39,119
Speaker 1: do about it. By the same token, UH, if you

428
00:24:39,160 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: want that that that stock to go up and value,

429
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,159
Speaker 1: there's nothing you can do about it. You you you

430
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,840
Speaker 1: could cross your fingers to their white and you could

431
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,800
Speaker 1: pray about it, but you cannot affect the value. Were

432
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 1: a piece of of of property, a track of land, uh,

433
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: depending on what it's used for. Well, we'll say for hunting,

434
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:02,040
Speaker 1: because you guys are hunters. I'm a hunter, and and

435
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 1: that's the part of the land that I'm the most

436
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,640
Speaker 1: passionate about. However, and I'll talk about it a little

437
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 1: bit in a few moments, about the opportunity to increase, uh,

438
00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: not to increase, but to have a steady income from

439
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,160
Speaker 1: your land. But you could take a piece of land

440
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,760
Speaker 1: UH that maybe has a something as simple as uh.

441
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 1: And I've seen some properties that have been several million

442
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,399
Speaker 1: dollars and have a piece of bob wire, a stretch

443
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,320
Speaker 1: of bob wire for a game, you know what I mean?

444
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: Just just small things like putting in a real gate, uh,

445
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,640
Speaker 1: fixing a road that goes in uh, putting a couple

446
00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: of food plots here and there. Strategically, just little things

447
00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:47,520
Speaker 1: change the appearance and the value of a property instantly.

448
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:53,840
Speaker 1: Um that abbiance, so that that that uh, that first

449
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: impression when you walk on to a piece of property.

450
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: It's amazing how that changes the value you and the

451
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 1: feeling in somebody's mind. Uh. And then consider if you

452
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: if you were in a position to spend a little

453
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,160
Speaker 1: more money, like putting a new fence on the face

454
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 1: at least the face that meets the road, or or

455
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 1: putting in a small body of water. It's not as

456
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,840
Speaker 1: expensive as some people think. And making a few changes

457
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:22,840
Speaker 1: instantly your your property becomes more valuable uh and and

458
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:28,399
Speaker 1: much more desirable instantly. So sorry, go ahead, dells. What

459
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:33,840
Speaker 1: are some of the things that can change as far

460
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,600
Speaker 1: as not necessarily what you can do to a piece

461
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:42,800
Speaker 1: of property, but maybe some other extrinsic extrinsic things that

462
00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:45,879
Speaker 1: can change or make the price of land go up

463
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 1: or down. Well, it's it's it's uh. A lot of

464
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: it relates to um that you have no control over.

465
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 1: It would be things like the economy of course, um

466
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: if UM, here's a here's a kind of a a

467
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: kind of a flip in the way people look at

468
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: Sometimes when the interest rates go up. Uh, you might think, well,

469
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: that's going to slow down purchasing of property. But at

470
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's the bottom line. And

471
00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:21,719
Speaker 1: in dollars or dollars, whether they come from interest rate

472
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 1: or they come from the from the asking price of

473
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,680
Speaker 1: a property, it's still UM. When you put a calculator

474
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: to it, you're trying to determine if you could afford

475
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:34,359
Speaker 1: it or not. And so when an interest when interest

476
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: rates go up, for example, not immediately, but after after

477
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,919
Speaker 1: ninety days or so that the higher rate has been up,

478
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: there you'll see the price of properties come down a

479
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: little bit, uh, which stimulates more sales than then it

480
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:57,879
Speaker 1: hurts when the interest rates go down. If I guess

481
00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,280
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, it's the price of the property is

482
00:28:01,359 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: much more attractive than a higher interest rate is uh.

483
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:13,400
Speaker 1: Distractive UM and so so that that's that's a kind

484
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 1: of a cause and effect type relationship and and so

485
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,320
Speaker 1: so you know, yeah, the economy, uh is, the is

486
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: the main factor that will affect just like it affects

487
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:31,159
Speaker 1: um any investment for that matter. UM. But as I,

488
00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: as I referred to before, within a ten year period,

489
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:41,680
Speaker 1: like you normally UM way a prospectus way, an investment

490
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 1: through a prospectus uh land is is always going up.

491
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: It may slip back for a small period of time

492
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: because we just had a hiccup and interest rates, but

493
00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 1: then it's back going up again. UH. An example is this.

494
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: You know, the cost of fuel is down right now.

495
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: That's great, it's coming up a little bit. But I

496
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,480
Speaker 1: remember when fuel got up to four dollars and people said, man,

497
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 1: I can't afford to go on vacation, I can't afford this,

498
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: I can't do that, I can't do this. And after

499
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: we had that four dollars out there for a little while,

500
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: everybody went back to what they do. They just figured

501
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: out how to how to make it all work. You know,

502
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: they still went on vacations, they still bought what they

503
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: wanted to buy, they still did whatever they need they

504
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: wanted to do. UM. So there's little hiccups that might

505
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: slow land down for a little while, but it always

506
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 1: comes back stronger. And I'll tell you this, there's never

507
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: a bad market. Things cycle, just not with land. It

508
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: doesn't cycle um as as volatile as with other other investments, gold, paper, silver,

509
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: those things. UM. So there's always a market. Either it's

510
00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: a buyer's market or there's a seller's mark. And when

511
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 1: it's a buyer's market, UM, the price the price of land,

512
00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:14,560
Speaker 1: for example, is lower and uh, but the business is

513
00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 1: still very strong because the people that are in a

514
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: position to buy. In other words, UM, the economy doesn't

515
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: affect them as much. They've got money put away. They're

516
00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: they're gobbling up as much property as they can because

517
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,000
Speaker 1: they're buying equity. Does that make sense to you that

518
00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: they're they're buying the equity because that land is going

519
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: to be worth much more in a very short time

520
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 1: and uh and and so but when it's a when

521
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:44,680
Speaker 1: it's a seller's market, the sellers are going crazily selling properties.

522
00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: But it's not always the best time to buy a property,

523
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 1: um from the buying standpoint. But I'll say this, I've

524
00:30:56,560 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 1: paid more than a property has been worth before. Uh.

525
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: An example is I bought uh it was a ten

526
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:07,680
Speaker 1: acres and uh, I loved it. It It was it was

527
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: here in Pike County. It was on Dutch Creek. But

528
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:14,120
Speaker 1: I wanted the neighbor's property really really, really bad and

529
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: uh and then it became it came up for sale,

530
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 1: and I literally paid a thousand dollars an acre, if

531
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 1: you can imagine more than it was worth now. It

532
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: added even more value to my property because it put

533
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: me on the other side where I was touching a

534
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,480
Speaker 1: road on either side of my property, gave me more access.

535
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:42,640
Speaker 1: It made my property more desirable. But uh, within two years, Uh,

536
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: not only did I make up that thousand dollars, but

537
00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: I picked up another thousand dollars per acre in in value.

538
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 1: Um So, so, even when you pay more for land,

539
00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: depending on your time, how much time do you have,

540
00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: you it will become a good investment. I mean, in

541
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 1: other words, it'll it'll go up it Uh, I don't know.

542
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: I guess there's situations in places where land is does

543
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: not go up as as quickly. I haven't. We're in

544
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: twenty one states. I don't know of any um So

545
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 1: so it's just a lot of times it's it's a

546
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 1: matter of time to recoup. But there's a lot of

547
00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: cases where you can buy equity simply by knowing that. Uh.

548
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: Number one, I'm not giving an example. Let me go

549
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,720
Speaker 1: back to to where where I'm going with this. Uh,

550
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:39,960
Speaker 1: the same analogy. If if you're a home investor, you know,

551
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 1: you're the guy that buys homes and sells them. Um,

552
00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: what you usually look for is a good area, a

553
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 1: nice community, uh. And try to buy the house that's

554
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:53,160
Speaker 1: the most rundown that you could buy for the lowest

555
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:57,640
Speaker 1: price in a high end a subdivision or high end area.

556
00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 1: And then you improve that that proper be and because

557
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,600
Speaker 1: you you you're buying it already with equity because of

558
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: where it is. Once you put the improvements and you

559
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: bring it up to the value of the of the neighborhood,

560
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: and your improvements don't cost as much as what it

561
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: would have cost you to purchase one of the houses

562
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,600
Speaker 1: that was already there that was nice, you know. Uh,

563
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: then you you you've made some money, You've got equity, uh,

564
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: and and you're in a great neighborhood. Well, when it

565
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: comes to properties that have to do with hunting. There's

566
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,080
Speaker 1: some areas that you could have everything. You could have

567
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,200
Speaker 1: the best food plots, you could have the best water,

568
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 1: most most most successible water, you could have the best cover.

569
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: You could have everything, but you don't have any deer

570
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:46,480
Speaker 1: because you're not it's not in the right neighborhood, you

571
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean by By the same token, you

572
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 1: could buy a uh say, a track of land that

573
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: has been has been cattled for years, grazed for years.

574
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 1: The cattle have just royd all the underbrush in the

575
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: timber and uh the ponds look like mudholes from from

576
00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: the cattle going in and out of them. And it's

577
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: just the least desirable track of land in a really

578
00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:16,399
Speaker 1: good neighborhood. What I mean by a good neighborhood an

579
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 1: area where that has a history of producing big bucks

580
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 1: over the years. You know. So so so you could

581
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,000
Speaker 1: say you go in there and you buy that that

582
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: property well below market value because it is it is

583
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,480
Speaker 1: not when you do a c m A a market

584
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,840
Speaker 1: analysis and you compare it to the other properties, it

585
00:34:36,880 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 1: is not. It's not worth as much because it doesn't

586
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: have this and that and the other things. But when

587
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:48,239
Speaker 1: you improve that property, um, when you perhaps, uh take

588
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:52,600
Speaker 1: an area that's cool season fescue that the cattles and

589
00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: the cows have have have run all over for years.

590
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: And and let's say you take that that that fescue

591
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 1: and uh you chemically burn it, and then you burn it,

592
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and uh and the successional plants start to come up,

593
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: those forbes that that provide really good nourishment to the deer,

594
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 1: and the warm season grasses that have been sitting under

595
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 1: the cool season grasses dormant for years, they start coming up.

596
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 1: And now you're improving the habitat. And then then you

597
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: go and you perhaps put in you you you study

598
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 1: that property the aerials, and you put the food plots

599
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160
Speaker 1: where they make the most sense win wise. And perhaps

600
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: you you put in um, not not not if anything fancy,

601
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: but some a road network that allows you to get

602
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,280
Speaker 1: in and out of those food plots with at least

603
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: amount of intrusion. And you just lay it out like

604
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:49,719
Speaker 1: the perfect hunting track, and uh hack within a within

605
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: to two short seasons, you've got all the all the

606
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 1: big bucks that all your neighbors do, you know, And

607
00:35:55,960 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: and now and here's what's neat. Now you start your

608
00:35:58,640 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 1: own prospectus and you do it through two ways. You

609
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: do it with the use of trail cameras um to

610
00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 1: document the quality of the animals that are on that property,

611
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,720
Speaker 1: and through the animals that you've harvested. You you you

612
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:20,040
Speaker 1: put together a nice UH portfolio of pictures and UH

613
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 1: trail camera pictures and success photos. Because what is so

614
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: cool about this, and it's exciting, I'm passionate about it,

615
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: is that at one time the value of property was

616
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: primarily based on the maturity the maturity of the timber,

617
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: the value of the timber, and or the fertility of

618
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,360
Speaker 1: the soil. And now the value of properties in in

619
00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: in a lot of areas is based on the quality

620
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: of the animals that inhabit that track of land. And

621
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,719
Speaker 1: that's what's cool because it's given birth to a new

622
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 1: kind of farmer. There were farmers that there's farmers that

623
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: plant corn and beans, tobacco and cotton and everything else

624
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:05,680
Speaker 1: out there. There's a farmer. And now there are deer farmers.

625
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: And I don't mean deer farmers behind high fences. I

626
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: mean deer farmers that are growing free ranging deer that

627
00:37:11,960 --> 00:37:16,400
Speaker 1: are enormous and UH and adding value to their property

628
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: while they do it. That that what could be more

629
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: more fun than that? You know, Um, that's pretty awesome.

630
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: That's the dream. That is the dream I know. And

631
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: you know, like everybody else, I love harvesting big big deer.

632
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 1: Who doesn't, But I take more uh uh were I

633
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: have more enjoyment in in developing a piece of property

634
00:37:38,719 --> 00:37:41,239
Speaker 1: and then and then just seeing the big deer that

635
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: weren't there when I bought that property. That's even more

636
00:37:44,120 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 1: exciting to me. And and the only reason I talked

637
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 1: about selling. You know, a lot of times when guys

638
00:37:49,000 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: they come to to us and they say, hey, listen,

639
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm looking for that dream property, and this is what

640
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 1: I gotta have, this is what I want to have,

641
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,680
Speaker 1: this is what you know, they tell us everything. And

642
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: of course then then we we lay it all out,

643
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: look for the right piece of property form and uh

644
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: and find it form. Now, Now, realistically, that's not going

645
00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:10,160
Speaker 1: to be your last property. That's not going to be

646
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,600
Speaker 1: your last dream property. So so the good news is,

647
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 1: don't don't try to buy your your dream property. Take

648
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 1: what you the track of land that you could afford

649
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:22,560
Speaker 1: in the right location, the right neighborhood, developed that track

650
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: of land. Then use the equity from that track of

651
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 1: land to buy your next dream property. So and that's

652
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 1: that's why I always talk about increasing the value of

653
00:38:32,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 1: it um through UH in this particular case, through growing

654
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:41,320
Speaker 1: the deer on that property. UM deer I I relate

655
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,440
Speaker 1: to deer. There's a lot of different types of habitat.

656
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 1: Waterfowlers as another one that has a lot a lot

657
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,239
Speaker 1: of effect on what the value of property is. And

658
00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: and waterfowl properties that's even another dimension as far as

659
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 1: building an infrastructure to support uh waterfall. But the white

660
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: till part of it, it's not that expensive. It's not

661
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,880
Speaker 1: like you've you've got to pump thousands of gallons of

662
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: water and move it and have a have uh types

663
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: under the ground for for miles and all that kind

664
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: of stuff. It's not it's not as intense. But man,

665
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: it had so much value when you have and I've

666
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 1: sold some some farms that have been really tricked out,

667
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: I mean really really nice farms, UH where I've driven

668
00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 1: around with a photo album with two animals in and

669
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: that's all we talk about. They don't even want to know, uh,

670
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,319
Speaker 1: they don't want to know about anything other than what's

671
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,799
Speaker 1: sitting on that property right now. And what is the

672
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,040
Speaker 1: history of that property. It's it's kind of exciting when

673
00:39:43,160 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: when uh, you can talk in those terms rather than

674
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: just the yields on on the crops and uh and

675
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 1: what the timber will bring it all ties in, it

676
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 1: all ties in. If I started go ahead, I'm sorry,

677
00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I was gonna say so. So you bring up good

678
00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: point there right there. People start seeing these pictures and

679
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,560
Speaker 1: they start hearing about the history of deer on a property,

680
00:40:05,600 --> 00:40:07,360
Speaker 1: and like, I think any of us listening, if we

681
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:10,600
Speaker 1: don't already own property, the idea of it sounds amazing.

682
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: Like if I saw this property you were showing me

683
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: these pictures and I saw this two buck, yeah, I

684
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 1: would love to have it. But how does someone go

685
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: about figuring out if buying a property is actually the

686
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 1: right decision for them, whether it be financially or otherwise.

687
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,080
Speaker 1: You know, what would you tell someone? What should they

688
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 1: be thinking through? What's the process of how to think

689
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 1: of this financially and otherwise when trying to decide is

690
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 1: owning a piece of property is buying a hunting property? Right?

691
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: For me? Right? And and I'll tell you this, I

692
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 1: ship different areas and I don't know where this particular

693
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: your your station covers one area, but but I'll tell

694
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: you most of the all of the Midwest, and Joe,

695
00:40:52,440 --> 00:40:54,680
Speaker 1: not not only the Midwest, because there's there's a lot

696
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 1: of income producing properties in the South as well, and

697
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: and in the north. They're so so here's what I do. Uh,

698
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:05,520
Speaker 1: And this is me. I'm I'm a I'm a I'm

699
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: a deer hunter. I'm passionate about deer hunting. I'm passionate

700
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 1: about land. Uh, but I'm also passionate about security and uh,

701
00:41:14,680 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm also passionate about investments. And so this is my

702
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: rule of thumb when I'm considering a piece of ground.

703
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 1: And what's good about it is that some of the

704
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: best white tail properties have a lot of edge. And

705
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: some of the white tail best white tail properties had

706
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 1: they are a combination of agriculture of some nature and

707
00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:45,480
Speaker 1: timber or brush. Um. They're very seldom just just timber,

708
00:41:45,600 --> 00:41:47,840
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And even if they're just timber,

709
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 1: there's there's ways to generate income from timber. But I'm

710
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,960
Speaker 1: gonna talk with you right now about a good mix

711
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 1: to consider when looking at a track of land, whether

712
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: it's twenty acres, forty acres, five acres of thousands acres,

713
00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. I look for a mix to somewhere

714
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: around a fifty fifty uh timber to tillable or uh

715
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,480
Speaker 1: sixty timber to tillable, somewhere in that range. I'm very

716
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: interested in good soil. The reason that soil is is

717
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,680
Speaker 1: important not only for the yields, not only for them

718
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: for the crops, but also good soil grows big deer

719
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: as well, and so um I'll give you a case

720
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:35,279
Speaker 1: in point. What one example was, I bought a track

721
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 1: of land in um Missouri, and UH for what I

722
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:45,160
Speaker 1: could cash rent that property for, it's uh it's about

723
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: sixty in this particular case, it was about se tillable.

724
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 1: It's got creeks, you know, the timber follows the water

725
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,719
Speaker 1: a lot of times. It's got creeks running through it.

726
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: And it's got timber that follows the water. And I've

727
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 1: got some really really good tillable out there, have got

728
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 1: a lot of edge and uh and so that track

729
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,439
Speaker 1: of land has given me a six percent return. So

730
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:09,360
Speaker 1: so if you listen to these numbers for a minute,

731
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: it will make a lot of sense to you. A

732
00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: six percent return is what I'm getting on the entire investment,

733
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: which which is not even um is not even what

734
00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,480
Speaker 1: I'm investing. And the reason I say not even when

735
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: I'm investing is when your return, uh, your cash rent

736
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: in this case, your your return is cash rent, is

737
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 1: greater than what that money has costing you. So, so

738
00:43:37,360 --> 00:43:39,480
Speaker 1: I borrowed that money. When I borrowed that money at

739
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: the bank, I paid, Uh, I think, if I'm not mistaken,

740
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: it was four four point two Oh is what I

741
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 1: borrowed the money for. Four point two Oh, and I'm

742
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: I'm getting a six percent return. So with interest and

743
00:43:56,160 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 1: and principle, uh, my farm is making my mortgage payment.

744
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: I'm not paying anything out of pocket to make my

745
00:44:03,920 --> 00:44:06,800
Speaker 1: mortgage payment. So so think about that for a second.

746
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 1: So when that happens, when that that payment, your your

747
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 1: return is greater than your payment. Uh. And even if

748
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,319
Speaker 1: your return was not greater than your payment, whatever it is,

749
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: it's it's a whole lot less than what you'd be

750
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,120
Speaker 1: paying for that form if you had no income on

751
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,720
Speaker 1: it at all, you know what I mean. Um, So,

752
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: so you're you're you're six percent, So you're making the difference.

753
00:44:30,080 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: You're you're basically making the difference between six percent and

754
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: four point two. Oh. Now, where the real return is,

755
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: since you're not coming out of pocket anymore for taxes

756
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 1: or anything, is is your down payment. So if you

757
00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: take your down payment and you figure the return on

758
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: your down payment, it's something like six not six percent,

759
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 1: you know what, it's enormous and and you can't do that,

760
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't get a return like that on anything.

761
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 1: That's that's leverage. That's that's compound compounding interest, uh, compounding

762
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:07,839
Speaker 1: your investment. Rather, so if you take uh to take

763
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,760
Speaker 1: it a step further, uh, the years that you earned

764
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: that you own that property, you could count on uh

765
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:18,480
Speaker 1: when you look at most prospectus us says um, and

766
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: you you want to know what what can I count

767
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: on as far as return on this property as as

768
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:26,960
Speaker 1: a as a rule of thumb, and average is between

769
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:31,480
Speaker 1: four and six percent return a year. So so if

770
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,239
Speaker 1: the property goes up six percent this year, you add

771
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:37,520
Speaker 1: that six percent to the property. Then then now when

772
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:40,840
Speaker 1: you figure six percent next year, you had six percent

773
00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,000
Speaker 1: to the to the six percent that you had it

774
00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 1: last year. So it keeps compounding if you follow me

775
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 1: with the appreciation. So here you are, You've got this

776
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,239
Speaker 1: piece of property. In five years, you've got a ton

777
00:45:51,320 --> 00:45:54,479
Speaker 1: of equity, and it's and it's cost you. It's really

778
00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,880
Speaker 1: cost you nothing because your your down payment is is

779
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:01,360
Speaker 1: it actually came off the total princible of your property.

780
00:46:01,400 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 1: So it's sitting there, it's still yours, and and you

781
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 1: sell it and you've got all that equity and you've

782
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: got all that appreciation and you didn't have to make

783
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:11,440
Speaker 1: a payment at all in this in this particular scenario.

784
00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: And when you when you look at the investment like that,

785
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 1: and here's my point. If you if say say you're

786
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: you're at a point where you you want to you

787
00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:24,239
Speaker 1: want to invest in stock because over a period of

788
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,960
Speaker 1: time it's had a good track record and you want

789
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: to make that money. So but but you can't take

790
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:34,760
Speaker 1: and put down and finance stock. If if you want

791
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: five hundred thousand dollars worth of stock, you've got to

792
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:41,360
Speaker 1: come out of pocket with five hundred thousand dollars. You know,

793
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: you can't come out come out of pocket with twenty

794
00:46:44,640 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: of it. And what will because there's a reason why

795
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,800
Speaker 1: you can't. The banks won't loan you money on stocks

796
00:46:51,880 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 1: or mutual funds or any of that because it's they're

797
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 1: very volatile, but they're very happy to loan you money

798
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: on land. It's tangible, you to touch it, you could

799
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 1: feel it. It's there. And uh, on top of all that,

800
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: you know, I always say the investment wise, and you know,

801
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: I rattled off a lot of stuff to it, and

802
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,520
Speaker 1: a lot of people may hear it and they may

803
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 1: not follow it. They may not be tracking with me

804
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: because it's a lot of it's a lot to take

805
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 1: in at one time. But there's not in my mind,

806
00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 1: there's not another a better investment. I always thought that,

807
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,000
Speaker 1: and I've been doing this my whole my whole life,

808
00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 1: my whole adult life is trying to have a balanced

809
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: portfolio where I have money in land, I have some

810
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,719
Speaker 1: money and mutual funds, I have some money in stocks

811
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: I don't have but I've never put money in gold

812
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: or silver or anything like that. But um, this last

813
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,959
Speaker 1: dip that we had, I hear about a month ago

814
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 1: we had the dow took a dip that was like bam,

815
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 1: it was huge, and I looked, I pulled up on

816
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,719
Speaker 1: the computer and looked at what I had there, and

817
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: I lost a ton of money and one day, and

818
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,840
Speaker 1: it's it just makes you sick. You know that is

819
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: too much volatility. And so what I'm doing right now

820
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 1: is as soon as that stock, uh it it comes

821
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: up even anywhere close to where it was before, if

822
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 1: it comes up within ten p of what it was

823
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 1: before I took that big dip, I'm taking it out

824
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,920
Speaker 1: of there. Now. Now what I risk is now I've

825
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:28,080
Speaker 1: got to pay on that. On those particular stocks, I'm

826
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,959
Speaker 1: gonna have to pay income tax on it. I'm gonna

827
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: have to uh pay them a penalty, not a penalty,

828
00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:34,280
Speaker 1: but I have to pay them a fee for taking

829
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:36,480
Speaker 1: it out and everything. But it's worth it to me.

830
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it out, take my lump one last time,

831
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,879
Speaker 1: rather to take it every time the market swings and

832
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:45,280
Speaker 1: uh and invested in land. So I'm gonna take anything

833
00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: I have and I'm investing in land. I'm not going

834
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:51,720
Speaker 1: through those peaks and valleys anymore. I want something that

835
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:55,080
Speaker 1: that two two things. I want something that is steady,

836
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 1: steadily going up and and something that I can control.

837
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 1: I can actually can troll the value of it. So

838
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: for my improve it, so for the so for the

839
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: average guy like you mentioned there, like there's a there's

840
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:08,799
Speaker 1: a lot of things we're covering here. I want to

841
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: take it back to the average guy so to to

842
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: make if I make correct me if I'm making sense

843
00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 1: of this. But for the average guy or girl out

844
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,560
Speaker 1: there who wants to get started with their first property,

845
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:22,280
Speaker 1: I think the main points I'm taking away are Number one,

846
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,520
Speaker 1: think about the fact that you can start small and

847
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,080
Speaker 1: then increase your value on that property resell maybe to

848
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,880
Speaker 1: eventually get what's your dream of down the road. But

849
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:33,880
Speaker 1: to make that investment kind of neutral from the get go,

850
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 1: you want to Number one, look at a property that

851
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 1: has incurrec if I'm wrong here, but you said around

852
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:42,520
Speaker 1: fift of tillable lands, so you can have cash rent

853
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:44,239
Speaker 1: on that and then maybe some some money you can

854
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,640
Speaker 1: make on a timber basis. And then number two, hold

855
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,399
Speaker 1: onto that property long enough to make back your down

856
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: payment in that inflation of the value. If you do

857
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: those two things, Am I correct in? That? That's going

858
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 1: to make this a pretty solid investment. If you get

859
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 1: a property you can make money off of from cash

860
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,920
Speaker 1: rent and give it enough time to appreciate value, the

861
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:07,759
Speaker 1: average guy can probably afford to get a starter property absolutely,

862
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 1: and to the thing to consider as soon as you

863
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:14,200
Speaker 1: make those improvements. As soon as you do, you just

864
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:18,720
Speaker 1: forced appreciation. I mean immediately. And that's that's that's pretty

865
00:50:18,760 --> 00:50:22,000
Speaker 1: neat because for the for there was a while there

866
00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: I can't, I can't, I can't do that stuff. Now

867
00:50:24,280 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: that that that that we're we have our own brokerage

868
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: because UM, when I have a good a good deal,

869
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: I am gonna find uh. I have people that are

870
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,840
Speaker 1: looking for good deals um. Uh. And I'm talking about

871
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:41,719
Speaker 1: properties that you could buy with equity. Uh. In other words,

872
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,960
Speaker 1: you don't even have to weight that that you you

873
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: could buy properties uh today. UM. A very good friend

874
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: of mine UM makes a ton of money. And and

875
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:55,279
Speaker 1: what he does is he purchases properties. He has a

876
00:50:55,280 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: good eye, and he has experience and he and he

877
00:50:57,800 --> 00:51:01,640
Speaker 1: makes some improvements. Then then he lists them with us.

878
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,960
Speaker 1: He lists them with us because we reached the greatest

879
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: number of people for those type of properties across the country.

880
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:11,280
Speaker 1: We do. And uh, and I'll tell you what's funny

881
00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 1: is the they pick he picks those properties up UM

882
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,520
Speaker 1: kind of before and in other words, they're out there,

883
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: but they're marketing them, UM, not not the for what

884
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: they're worth. You know, they're they're market they're talking about

885
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: the cattle grazing when it's a potentially a world class

886
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: deer farm, you know what I mean. And so he

887
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 1: looks for those farms, he improves them, and and he

888
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,279
Speaker 1: doesn't hold them for six months, and he makes a

889
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 1: lot of money. So it's not a matter all the

890
00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:46,800
Speaker 1: time of of you know, I gave you an example

891
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:50,319
Speaker 1: before that. If you buy a property that is the

892
00:51:50,440 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: least desirable property and then in an extremely desirable area, uh,

893
00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,239
Speaker 1: hunting wise, and then you improve that property to the

894
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:04,400
Speaker 1: level of the other ones in that area. Uh, the

895
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,399
Speaker 1: length of time it takes you to improve that property, Uh,

896
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,800
Speaker 1: you could immediately turn around and make a bunch of money.

897
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: Now can you hung onto it for a couple of

898
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 1: seasons and two or three seasons and then uh had

899
00:52:15,600 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: a really good prospectus of pictures and testimonies of of

900
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: animals that that are on the property and have been

901
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: harvested on that property. Now you stand to make even

902
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,960
Speaker 1: more money, you know. Um, yeah, yeah, we're we're you're

903
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 1: you're tracking. I mean, we're tracking together on this. And

904
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,600
Speaker 1: there's there's several ways to approach it. Uh, you could

905
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 1: turn immediately, Uh, you know, there's value in turns to

906
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: you know, you could take one one property and I'm

907
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: just gonna say numbers here. Say say you you you

908
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,600
Speaker 1: you take a property and you flipped it and you

909
00:52:47,719 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: made fifty dollars and you've done that in six months.

910
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:56,000
Speaker 1: Or you took that same property and uh and and

911
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: improved it a little bit more, built up a portfolio

912
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,319
Speaker 1: of of big box and so on over a three

913
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: year period and you turned it and you and you

914
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 1: made uh tifty dollars I mean made or earned above

915
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 1: what you spent um. Then then if you're in that position,

916
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: it would have been worth um you hanging onto it.

917
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: All depends. Everybody's approach is different. Yes, So so when

918
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:25,360
Speaker 1: we're just let's say, okay, now I decided, okay, I

919
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 1: think I can probably do this. I think it sounds

920
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,080
Speaker 1: like a sound investment. I've got a little money saved

921
00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: up for a down payment. What is your what are

922
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the two different methods for buy a farm,

923
00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:37,960
Speaker 1: whether it be financing it through a bank or as

924
00:53:37,960 --> 00:53:40,439
Speaker 1: you mentioned a little bit ago, a land contract. What's

925
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:43,880
Speaker 1: the benefit to either and which one would you recommend

926
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 1: for the average guy or girl. Well, I'd say that

927
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:50,200
Speaker 1: there's many more properties that you can buy through a

928
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:54,879
Speaker 1: conventional method of of finance. UM, once in a while,

929
00:53:56,520 --> 00:54:00,200
Speaker 1: there'll be people out there that either like I I

930
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, that that take a big piece of property

931
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 1: divided and they're able individually to make more money and

932
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: they're making interest on top of it. And where where

933
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 1: that's a nice opportunity for people is the down payment

934
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: is much less. Those people are not interested in your

935
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,880
Speaker 1: down payment. They're interested in that what they're making on

936
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: the interest on that property over the years, you know.

937
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 1: And so uh, that's that's that's a good way. But

938
00:54:23,800 --> 00:54:29,440
Speaker 1: there's there's when I have purchased, uh besides that one.

939
00:54:29,480 --> 00:54:33,160
Speaker 1: On land contracts, usually it's it's it's kind of like, um,

940
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,879
Speaker 1: I asked the seller, what what is your ultimate goal?

941
00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 1: You know? A lot of times an older person maybe

942
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: that's selling a property. He just wants steady income. He

943
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,080
Speaker 1: doesn't necessarily want that big capital gain at one time. Um,

944
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,440
Speaker 1: it's easier to defer it over a period of time

945
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,640
Speaker 1: where he doesn't get hit as hard tax wise, and

946
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:55,080
Speaker 1: he earns a little interesting and and they like that,

947
00:54:55,160 --> 00:54:58,080
Speaker 1: and it's it makes it easier for somebody just starting

948
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,120
Speaker 1: out that maybe maybe doesn't have as much to put down.

949
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,680
Speaker 1: You could use the rule of thumb of basically between

950
00:55:04,680 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 1: twenty and down depending on the lender UH at at

951
00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:14,720
Speaker 1: the bank's conventional lending. And and so there's some there's

952
00:55:14,760 --> 00:55:21,960
Speaker 1: some UH lenders that they are UH primarily loan money

953
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:27,400
Speaker 1: for land, such as UH first Farm Credit or or

954
00:55:27,440 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 1: farm credit. They're they're very similar UM farm Credit and

955
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 1: first Farm Credit. And then there's AGG America is a

956
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: big lender lens in every state. UH. You could you

957
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 1: could google ag America and and UH they're they're big,

958
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 1: and they're there. Their their thing is is UH agriculture,

959
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 1: hunt recreational land. UH. There there's there's several out there.

960
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 1: Sometimes your local lenders. Here's one thing to consider too,

961
00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,760
Speaker 1: is UH is if you live in Florida, for example,

962
00:55:58,320 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 1: and you want you buy a track of land in Illinois, UM,

963
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,520
Speaker 1: You're you're far Florida. Banker will not loan you money

964
00:56:08,960 --> 00:56:11,479
Speaker 1: most of the time to buy a track of land

965
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:15,960
Speaker 1: in Illinois. UH. Most often what will happen is the

966
00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 1: lender that you'll use will actually be in the county

967
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: UH in Illinois that you're that you want to purchase

968
00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: that property. More often than not now. In the case

969
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 1: of lenders that are national, like AGA America, UH, they're

970
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:33,279
Speaker 1: they're in fifty states. So as long as they're they're

971
00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they're happy to UH as long as their

972
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: license there and doing business, they're they're happy to loan

973
00:56:38,080 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: you money. And the reason I mentioned that is if

974
00:56:41,400 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 1: if say you're from Florida, you're from New Jersey or

975
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: wherever you are, and you want to buy a property

976
00:56:45,640 --> 00:56:48,920
Speaker 1: in Kansas or Iowa or somewhere else, it's more likely

977
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:52,480
Speaker 1: that your local banker UH will try to talk you

978
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,839
Speaker 1: out of that purchase because he wants to keep your

979
00:56:54,840 --> 00:56:58,359
Speaker 1: business local, you know. And UH, that's that's just it's

980
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: just good to know that UH going in. But the

981
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: the the bank financing UM or or like first form

982
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 1: credit or farm credit. UH, those are are much more obtainable, UM,

983
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 1: much more prolific um in the marketplace than than a

984
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: land contract or or a contract for deed. But that

985
00:57:24,440 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 1: doesn't exclude them. They're out there. You just have to ask,

986
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 1: you know, right there. They're hard to come by, but

987
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: it sounds like if you do find it, it's it's

988
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: not a bad situation for some people. UM. And I'm

989
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 1: curious Dallas over there, What are you thinking about this?

990
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 1: I know, I know we've kind of talked a little

991
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: bit about the finances of things here. Do you have

992
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,160
Speaker 1: any more questions on that side of things? Not necessarily

993
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: from a finance standpoint, but maybe as far as you know,

994
00:57:48,600 --> 00:57:51,920
Speaker 1: everybody thinks that you need to you know, you may

995
00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,760
Speaker 1: need to. I need to make more money in order

996
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: to in order to buy land. Is there is there

997
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 1: some preparation and maybe like paying off some debt that

998
00:58:02,840 --> 00:58:06,240
Speaker 1: you currently have, or some any other tips or tricks

999
00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:09,760
Speaker 1: that can actually help prepare you for the jump into

1000
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: purchasing a property. M Yeah, that's the good. I like

1001
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:15,960
Speaker 1: that you said that it's always good to pay down debt.

1002
00:58:16,320 --> 00:58:21,080
Speaker 1: But here, here's the thing, is is um especially you

1003
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:23,919
Speaker 1: know a lot of times a young young couple says, man,

1004
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:26,400
Speaker 1: I can't afford that, you know, and it's like, like

1005
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 1: that'll take me forever. You know, of course, two things.

1006
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:34,560
Speaker 1: One keep it keep that first one within were is obtainable,

1007
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 1: you know, it's realistic within what your earnings are. But

1008
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,840
Speaker 1: but more more, if you want to have things in

1009
00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:43,800
Speaker 1: your life. This is just me talking out loud. If

1010
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:47,440
Speaker 1: you want to have things in your life. Don't don't

1011
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 1: expect to have everything early in your life. Um. Instead

1012
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 1: of instead of that that that new big truck, you know,

1013
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:57,920
Speaker 1: that's that's an expensive truck. Be more modest in that

1014
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:01,520
Speaker 1: truck and put money away to put into land, uh,

1015
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 1: instead of putting in a pool this year, or maybe

1016
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 1: maybe buying a bigger house this year, or maybe you know,

1017
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:10,640
Speaker 1: there's so many things that that our culture, the American

1018
00:59:10,680 --> 00:59:12,560
Speaker 1: culture is is is as soon as you think you

1019
00:59:12,600 --> 00:59:14,680
Speaker 1: could afford it, by it, because you know what I

1020
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,160
Speaker 1: mean and h but if you if you do that,

1021
00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 1: if you put it in land, uh, and that lands

1022
00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,080
Speaker 1: going up in equity, you're you're you're your automobile is

1023
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: not going up in nothing. That swimming pool really doesn't

1024
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: add to the value your house very much. You know.

1025
00:59:29,160 --> 00:59:31,440
Speaker 1: There's a lot of things that that that we spend

1026
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 1: money on that doesn't put us in a position later

1027
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:37,680
Speaker 1: on to have more money. But land is one of

1028
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 1: those things that you could purchase, uh and when you're young,

1029
00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,960
Speaker 1: into your life, into into your you know, as in

1030
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:50,160
Speaker 1: growing a family and such uh than or later on whenever.

1031
00:59:50,200 --> 00:59:53,800
Speaker 1: It's it's an investment that will pay back and and

1032
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 1: it's it makes so much more sense to uh to

1033
00:59:56,680 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: have um a piece of land that that that is

1034
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:02,640
Speaker 1: growing in value and you're enjoying it. Meanwhile, and that

1035
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: was the other thing I was gonna mention. I'm talking

1036
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:07,120
Speaker 1: about paper investments and they're they're they're good. And a

1037
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 1: lot of people have made a lot of money off

1038
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: of paper investments, and a lot of people have lost

1039
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,720
Speaker 1: a lot of money on paper investments. But but I

1040
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 1: don't know any people anyone that has ever been able

1041
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: to kill a big buck on a paper investment, you know,

1042
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: or or enjoy it in any way. But but land

1043
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 1: is something that uh, that you can build a lot

1044
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,080
Speaker 1: of memories and and a lot of enjoyment for your family.

1045
01:00:30,160 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 1: Is something that you could leave behind uh for your

1046
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:37,000
Speaker 1: family or be your retirement right now is what I'm

1047
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:40,000
Speaker 1: looking at here. In a few years, I'll probably retire

1048
01:00:40,520 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 1: and uh and I have enough And this is pretty awesome,

1049
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:46,920
Speaker 1: is that I'll have enough in just the cash rent

1050
01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:50,760
Speaker 1: uh that I get from my my tenant farmers uh

1051
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: to carry me in my retirement years. That that's that's

1052
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:56,320
Speaker 1: like as solid and investment as as you can have,

1053
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,760
Speaker 1: you know, the only thing that could can spoil that

1054
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 1: and I hope that that that never happens, is that

1055
01:01:04,240 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: our government turns around and says, hey, we're gonna we're

1056
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 1: gonna buy corn and beans from Africa, or or we're

1057
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: gonna start buying uh from from China where they're growing

1058
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,520
Speaker 1: it under a roof or something. I hope that that

1059
01:01:16,600 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 1: never never happens. Um. You know. But but as it

1060
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: is now here's here's one thing that that a lot

1061
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:26,760
Speaker 1: of people don't realize that they don't keep up with,

1062
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 1: like erosion, um, you know, through wind and uh and

1063
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:36,840
Speaker 1: rain and um and farming sometimes aggressive farming. UM. We

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01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: literally lose thousands of acres uh a year of a land.

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01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:46,840
Speaker 1: It actually washes down the rivers, we lose it. It's

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01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:50,840
Speaker 1: gone of agricultural land. And in fact, in the millions

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01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: of acres uh that we lose. So and at the

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01:01:54,520 --> 01:02:01,720
Speaker 1: same time, um, we're we're actually popping out more babies uh.

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01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 1: And and we don't have any more space than when

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01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,840
Speaker 1: we we had several hundred years ago. We we have

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01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 1: less less space to live on and more people living

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01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:15,120
Speaker 1: on it. Uh. You go to the like the big cities,

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01:02:15,120 --> 01:02:17,920
Speaker 1: for example St. Louis over here, I could relate to

1074
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,560
Speaker 1: I remember when I moved here, um St. Louis was

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01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,440
Speaker 1: way more contained. Now the suburbs stretched way out into

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01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:29,400
Speaker 1: the uh into the country. All these all these cities,

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01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 1: the suburbs now are out into the city where farmers

1078
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,000
Speaker 1: used to plant corn and beans. Uh so. So so

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01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,400
Speaker 1: the population is stretching out into the country and the

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01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: country is shrinking up. So my point is land is

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01:02:44,240 --> 01:02:47,160
Speaker 1: not going to become any less expensive. It's going to

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01:02:47,240 --> 01:02:50,280
Speaker 1: continue to go up in value because there's there's less

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01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,240
Speaker 1: of it every day. Every day there's less land and

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01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:56,440
Speaker 1: there's more people. So I don't know, I mean, like

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01:02:56,480 --> 01:03:00,920
Speaker 1: a solid um investment that you a bank on. I

1086
01:03:00,920 --> 01:03:03,439
Speaker 1: don't know a better one, I honestly don't. I mean

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01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 1: something that and and and then you add to that

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01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: that you can control it to some degree, you can

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01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: control the value of it. Um. It's it's pretty awesome,

1090
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: pretty awesome. So so let's say I've now decided, yeah,

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01:03:16,360 --> 01:03:19,000
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I've got the money. I

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01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've prepared myself for it. The first step

1093
01:03:22,560 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 1: in this process, I imagine, is starting to find a

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01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,000
Speaker 1: property you actually want to to, actually want to purchase.

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01:03:28,240 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 1: What's your what's your advice for someone who's in that

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01:03:30,560 --> 01:03:33,800
Speaker 1: first step trying to find the right property. I'm sure

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01:03:33,880 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: you know your website White Tell Property is a great resource.

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01:03:36,400 --> 01:03:38,680
Speaker 1: But in addition to that, what else can someone do

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01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:42,919
Speaker 1: to start finding their property that they're gonna get started with? Yes,

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01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,680
Speaker 1: it Well, it depends on how how broad arrange you have,

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01:03:45,840 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 1: you know what, what if you're limited to just a

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01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 1: particular area close to home, or or if you're looking

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01:03:51,560 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: at a certain certain county. You know, all that's important.

1104
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: But let's say for for a moment that maybe it's

1105
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,080
Speaker 1: it's like a three county area. Uh. That's a lot

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01:04:01,120 --> 01:04:03,840
Speaker 1: of times people a little flexible in that regard. We

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01:04:03,880 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: talk to people from all over the country. Um, but

1108
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,920
Speaker 1: but but do your research on depending on what you're after.

1109
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm I'm talking in terms of deer, because

1110
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: you guys are our dear guys, you know what I mean.

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01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: If you were talking to me as far as agriculture

1112
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,080
Speaker 1: would be different. If you're talking to me as far

1113
01:04:23,120 --> 01:04:26,520
Speaker 1: as cattle would be different. But but but but I

1114
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 1: think a lot of your listeners are are hunters and

1115
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:34,200
Speaker 1: uh and so uh saying that it's it's hunting property

1116
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 1: and saying let's let's let's say that what you're after

1117
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:41,439
Speaker 1: is is an area with that has produced big bucks. Um. Well,

1118
01:04:41,480 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 1: then at that point I try to gather all the

1119
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:48,520
Speaker 1: information I can and Google is awesome for for bucks

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 1: that have been taken in X county. Uh, and just

1121
01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: google it and get get in your Poping Young book. Uh,

1122
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 1: get in your Boone and Crockett book. You know. It's

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01:04:58,120 --> 01:05:03,520
Speaker 1: it's funny because when I when I'm moved here years ago, Um,

1124
01:05:03,560 --> 01:05:06,040
Speaker 1: I moved here. I was I don't know if you

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01:05:06,080 --> 01:05:08,160
Speaker 1: know this, but I was. I was with PSC position

1126
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:11,320
Speaker 1: shooting equipment for eighteen years. And uh they moved me

1127
01:05:11,400 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: up from Florida to the Midwest, and and I had

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01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:17,280
Speaker 1: quite an area that I could live in. And the

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01:05:17,320 --> 01:05:20,040
Speaker 1: first thing I did was flip over the Poping Young

1130
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,680
Speaker 1: book and narrow down the counties that that have produced

1131
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 1: the biggest bucks, you know, and I and I cross

1132
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:30,000
Speaker 1: checked it with boot and Crockett. And that's how that

1133
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: was part of how narrowed down where I even lived.

1134
01:05:32,960 --> 01:05:35,680
Speaker 1: Uh So so those are those are those are resources

1135
01:05:35,720 --> 01:05:38,680
Speaker 1: you could go to just to kind of narrow narrow down.

1136
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,400
Speaker 1: But if you know already where you want to be,

1137
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:44,280
Speaker 1: the area you want to be, then I would contact

1138
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,920
Speaker 1: a land specialist, not just a real estate agent to

1139
01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,439
Speaker 1: sales houses um. And you know, I would, I would

1140
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: contact the land specialists and I would kind of interview

1141
01:05:54,480 --> 01:05:56,720
Speaker 1: this guy you know as as too. And I'm not

1142
01:05:56,760 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: promoting us. I'm just saying, wherever you are, fine a guy.

1143
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,320
Speaker 1: And because they have they have the ability and the

1144
01:06:03,400 --> 01:06:06,760
Speaker 1: contacts out there to to you know, at any one time,

1145
01:06:07,040 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: any of our agents, for example, besides what's on the website,

1146
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 1: they have what yeah, they kind of refer to him

1147
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,520
Speaker 1: as pocket listings. There's good old boys out there. They

1148
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: have really good pieces of property and they say, well,

1149
01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to put it on the website because

1150
01:06:19,360 --> 01:06:21,560
Speaker 1: then my neighbor will know. And the last thing I

1151
01:06:21,600 --> 01:06:23,120
Speaker 1: want to do is sell it to him, because I've

1152
01:06:23,120 --> 01:06:24,880
Speaker 1: hated him for the last twenty years. You know, all

1153
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:27,800
Speaker 1: kinds of craziness comes out, you know. So so the

1154
01:06:27,840 --> 01:06:30,840
Speaker 1: guys who have pocket listings, and you may call one

1155
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:33,800
Speaker 1: of our agents that specializes in land in that particular

1156
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 1: area and uh, and he knows, he'll know what we

1157
01:06:37,160 --> 01:06:40,800
Speaker 1: have listed, he'll know what every other agent has listed

1158
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:43,320
Speaker 1: out there. We could work out of everybody's inventory. That's

1159
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,280
Speaker 1: what's so cool. And and for for one person to

1160
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: go through every single um, every single website, and and

1161
01:06:51,120 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 1: and even if he does, he won't know every single

1162
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:57,280
Speaker 1: property that's coming up uh very soon on the website.

1163
01:06:57,480 --> 01:07:00,560
Speaker 1: And then he won't have any idea what the pocket

1164
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:03,520
Speaker 1: listings are those guys that out there, and sometimes those

1165
01:07:03,560 --> 01:07:06,480
Speaker 1: are the best properties. Uh. But contact this guy and

1166
01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,880
Speaker 1: kind of interview him, you know, uh, pick his brain

1167
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 1: is to see what he actually knows. The cool thing

1168
01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:15,240
Speaker 1: about the land business, it's not like if you go

1169
01:07:15,320 --> 01:07:17,160
Speaker 1: into a car lot, for example, and you want to

1170
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: buy an automobile, the guy that walks up to you,

1171
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 1: the gal that walks up to you and introduces themselves,

1172
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:24,720
Speaker 1: you kind of obligated to them, you know. You you you

1173
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 1: you kind of you kind of stuck with that person

1174
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 1: whoever walks up to you. But but in the real

1175
01:07:29,880 --> 01:07:33,720
Speaker 1: estate business, you could pick your agent first and then

1176
01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: go find your land. And doesn't matter what brokerage has

1177
01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: that piece of land, that guy can can can can

1178
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 1: help you find it, you know, And I I I

1179
01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 1: used Florida for example. Say say it's out of state

1180
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 1: that you're looking for a piece of ground, we'll just

1181
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:50,160
Speaker 1: say that. And and and you contact somebody in the

1182
01:07:50,200 --> 01:07:53,600
Speaker 1: state that that you want a track of land or

1183
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:55,680
Speaker 1: in the county where you want to track the land

1184
01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 1: you unless your dream place. Uh. And and then you

1185
01:08:00,000 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: tell them what you want to give him all the criteria.

1186
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: And this guy, now, while you're at work in Florida

1187
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 1: doing whatever it is that you do, he's working for you.

1188
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,960
Speaker 1: He's trying to find you that ideal. He knows what

1189
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:15,600
Speaker 1: your budget is, he knows what what's important to you. Uh.

1190
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:18,639
Speaker 1: He knows all the information. And then more importantly, he

1191
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 1: knows all the tracks of land just about that are

1192
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 1: available or coming up for for sales soon. And uh,

1193
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:29,599
Speaker 1: that's where I would start. Is there is there anything

1194
01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 1: you should be thinking about when it comes to you know,

1195
01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:38,040
Speaker 1: do you recommend that people should absolutely go to this area,

1196
01:08:38,280 --> 01:08:40,280
Speaker 1: even if it's a you know you mentioned out of

1197
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,360
Speaker 1: state or counties. Do you think you can do this

1198
01:08:42,439 --> 01:08:46,639
Speaker 1: kind of research digitally enough to make a decent decision

1199
01:08:46,760 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 1: or should you be going to eat one of these

1200
01:08:48,560 --> 01:08:51,960
Speaker 1: different properties you're considering walk them before making any kind

1201
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,320
Speaker 1: of even preliminary decision. Oh? Absolutely. Once you you narrow

1202
01:08:57,360 --> 01:09:01,519
Speaker 1: down a kind of area, okay, and and and you

1203
01:09:01,560 --> 01:09:07,240
Speaker 1: identify or someone identifies for you, uh, some tracks of land.

1204
01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:10,920
Speaker 1: I want to look at as many as possible, um

1205
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:16,160
Speaker 1: um I have. It's kind of weird because, um, I've

1206
01:09:16,200 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: looked at property, I've done all I've run the numbers,

1207
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,320
Speaker 1: I've looked at the aerials, I've done all the things

1208
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:24,719
Speaker 1: normal people do. But then one of my rituals is

1209
01:09:24,720 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: is if I've narrowed it down to one or two properties,

1210
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,800
Speaker 1: i want to be left alone and I want to

1211
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:33,519
Speaker 1: walk that property, uh several times alone. And then I

1212
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:35,000
Speaker 1: want to I want to sit out there and I

1213
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:37,719
Speaker 1: want to feel that property. And that's what sounds weird,

1214
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: but but it's just like I'm really passionate about land

1215
01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 1: in every aspect. I mean, the smell of the dirt,

1216
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:50,800
Speaker 1: just the the the texture of the trees, everything. I'm

1217
01:09:50,800 --> 01:09:53,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really into land, and I like to sit

1218
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,639
Speaker 1: out there and hang hang hang out there because I've

1219
01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,519
Speaker 1: had good feelings, believe it, believe it or not, I've

1220
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:01,839
Speaker 1: had good feelings about property and I've had bad feelings

1221
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 1: about the property just just I don't know I explain it,

1222
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: just the gut that I that I have about the

1223
01:10:07,680 --> 01:10:10,760
Speaker 1: way it feels to me just doesn't feel right. And

1224
01:10:10,880 --> 01:10:13,400
Speaker 1: uh and I had not Uh, I don't care what

1225
01:10:13,479 --> 01:10:16,799
Speaker 1: the prices or or anything. I just don't. I'm not interested.

1226
01:10:17,320 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: Um So, so that's that's just that's just my ritual.

1227
01:10:20,640 --> 01:10:23,880
Speaker 1: But uh, yes, look at as many properties as you can.

1228
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,000
Speaker 1: When when I was selling land here, um uh, and

1229
01:10:27,080 --> 01:10:29,679
Speaker 1: I was out every day. What I what I try

1230
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 1: to do. Say you call me and you say, hey,

1231
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,680
Speaker 1: I noticed this this property on your website, and uh,

1232
01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 1: I like to come up this weekend and look at it.

1233
01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,960
Speaker 1: So what I do in the meanwhile after after we

1234
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:44,840
Speaker 1: talk for a little while and identify everything that you're,

1235
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:47,519
Speaker 1: what you're, what you like, what you don't like, what

1236
01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,680
Speaker 1: the budget is, what all that information. Then what I

1237
01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:53,760
Speaker 1: do is I find as many properties that fit that

1238
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:57,040
Speaker 1: bill as well. And then I call you back and

1239
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: I say, hey, listen, uh, I've I've also done this.

1240
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 1: I've done research, and I have several other properties that

1241
01:11:04,479 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: I'd like to show you when you're up here as well,

1242
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: so that you could really make a good decision. And

1243
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: if you make no, if you don't make any decision,

1244
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: at least you'll learn more about what you're looking for.

1245
01:11:15,520 --> 01:11:18,760
Speaker 1: You have a better understanding of what there is out there.

1246
01:11:19,160 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 1: And so when they come and I pick them up

1247
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: and we go look at land. Um. This is normally

1248
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: my game plan. If I've got a lot of properties,

1249
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: what I tell them is this is, let's go to

1250
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,160
Speaker 1: these properties. First. I want to I want to drive

1251
01:11:33,240 --> 01:11:37,360
Speaker 1: you all over the property and um and and give

1252
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:39,879
Speaker 1: you all the information. You'll you'll be looking at areas.

1253
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,880
Speaker 1: While we're driving, we'll be talking and everything, and and

1254
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:46,799
Speaker 1: we'll look at this many properties before lunch and uh.

1255
01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: And then we'll look at this many uh after lunch,

1256
01:11:50,520 --> 01:11:53,719
Speaker 1: and then somewhere around two or three o'clock we're gonna

1257
01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:57,360
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about which ones you're ready to eliminate

1258
01:11:57,880 --> 01:12:01,080
Speaker 1: and uh. And it's amazing because there by that time

1259
01:12:01,160 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: they say, Okay, this one doesn't feel as good because

1260
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 1: of this, this one I don't like because of this this.

1261
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: And now we're down to two properties. Typical scenario. Uh.

1262
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,639
Speaker 1: And so now we go back to those properties and

1263
01:12:14,439 --> 01:12:17,320
Speaker 1: and we grit them. I mean, we we get out,

1264
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 1: we walk, we look at everything, and uh. That's how

1265
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:22,360
Speaker 1: I like to do it. I like, I like a

1266
01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: person to cover a lot of ground and have a

1267
01:12:25,200 --> 01:12:28,760
Speaker 1: really good understanding. I don't like it, believe it or not. Uh.

1268
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,200
Speaker 1: And it's not you know, for for us, it's not

1269
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 1: about to sale. It's about the experience. We we we

1270
01:12:34,120 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: want that person to have a great experience and we

1271
01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:40,559
Speaker 1: want to build a trust. We we we we were

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01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:43,760
Speaker 1: very passionate about hunting, we're very passionate about land, and

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01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,960
Speaker 1: we're very passionate about people to buy land, and so

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01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 1: so we wanted to be a really good experience and

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01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,479
Speaker 1: we don't want to leave any rock unturned. So very

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:54,960
Speaker 1: seldom do we even say they can say okay, and

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01:12:55,000 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 1: this is this goes against every rule that you've ever

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01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: heard concerning sales. But they may say, okay, this is

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01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,439
Speaker 1: exactly what I want. Let's go ride it up and

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01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:05,920
Speaker 1: and and at at the at at the chance of

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01:13:05,960 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 1: losing that sale. Our guys will even say, um, you

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01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 1: know what, that's great, and we could do this. I

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01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,280
Speaker 1: I could, we could write an offer on it, uh,

1284
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:20,280
Speaker 1: subject to um looking at three other properties or whatever.

1285
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:22,400
Speaker 1: But I want you to look. I don't want you

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01:13:22,439 --> 01:13:24,400
Speaker 1: to lose this opportunity. And we we could pin it

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: down if that's the case, but I want you to

1288
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:28,479
Speaker 1: look at more because you don't buy a piece of

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01:13:28,520 --> 01:13:31,840
Speaker 1: property every day. And uh, that's that's how we approach it.

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01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: I have a quick question in regards to purchasing property,

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01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:40,560
Speaker 1: and nothing against a real estate agent or a land specialist,

1292
01:13:41,080 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: But do you need a real estate agent or a

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01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 1: land specialist to purchase land? No, you don't. If you

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01:13:49,600 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: have a lot of time. If if you have a

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01:13:51,800 --> 01:13:54,720
Speaker 1: lot of time, and you and you have of a

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: fair a fair amount of knowledge of of of what

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01:13:57,920 --> 01:14:02,280
Speaker 1: what what you want, what fits in every thing? Uh no, no,

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01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:06,719
Speaker 1: you you you just do your research and uh and

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01:14:06,880 --> 01:14:09,519
Speaker 1: especially you know here's the deal. We're we're if you're

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01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:12,560
Speaker 1: in your hometown, you're in your area, on your turf,

1301
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 1: you know the area well, and a property comes up

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01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 1: for sale, especially, I mean, you don't need a real

1303
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: estate agent at all. When you need a real estate

1304
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,920
Speaker 1: agent is when you have a particular property in mind,

1305
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:28,360
Speaker 1: and and and you have been looking. Here's two scenarios. One,

1306
01:14:28,439 --> 01:14:30,840
Speaker 1: you have been looking on your own, you haven't been

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01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:33,720
Speaker 1: able to find it, and you have nobody working for

1308
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:39,280
Speaker 1: you when you're working, and and so that's when you

1309
01:14:39,320 --> 01:14:42,200
Speaker 1: need an agent. But if you've got a if you've

1310
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 1: got a really good handle what's going on in your area.

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01:14:45,439 --> 01:14:50,120
Speaker 1: Um and and you've got time. Yeah, you don't need

1312
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: a real estate agent necessarily. Um and if you're but

1313
01:14:53,520 --> 01:14:56,360
Speaker 1: if you're out of town, I'm like, if you're from

1314
01:14:56,400 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 1: out of town and uh, and you're interested in of

1315
01:15:00,120 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: property in another state, I would right away get a

1316
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,719
Speaker 1: real estate agent. I mean when in my mind, without

1317
01:15:06,720 --> 01:15:09,840
Speaker 1: a question, i'd i'd have a real estate agent. And

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01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,439
Speaker 1: and for a couple of reasons is they don't cost

1319
01:15:12,479 --> 01:15:15,520
Speaker 1: you anything. That that seller is paying a commission regardless

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01:15:15,520 --> 01:15:18,080
Speaker 1: whether you have a real estate agent or not. And

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01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,599
Speaker 1: uh and and a lot of times that real estate agent,

1322
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 1: because of their their experience of negotiating these deals, because

1323
01:15:24,200 --> 01:15:27,120
Speaker 1: they do it every day, can actually save you more

1324
01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: money than you may have been able to buy without them.

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01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:33,000
Speaker 1: You know it. I'm not saying and I'm not saying

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01:15:33,080 --> 01:15:37,400
Speaker 1: you necessarily, but I'm saying the average person, um, they

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01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:40,320
Speaker 1: would be able to save them that money. So here's

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01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:42,559
Speaker 1: a guy that's not costing you anything. You're you're not

1329
01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 1: paying this commission and uh and and he does this

1330
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:49,559
Speaker 1: every single day. Where where you think about what you do,

1331
01:15:50,200 --> 01:15:53,640
Speaker 1: um or whatever anyone does. I mean I could I

1332
01:15:53,720 --> 01:15:57,559
Speaker 1: could get on Google, and I swear that if I

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01:15:57,640 --> 01:16:01,599
Speaker 1: watch and not Google, but YouTube. Uh, if I watch

1334
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:07,480
Speaker 1: a someone a doctor, man, you can see anything nowadays

1335
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 1: on on YouTube do with brain surgery. I promise you,

1336
01:16:11,960 --> 01:16:13,720
Speaker 1: I feel like I could do it. I saw where

1337
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 1: you made that incision and when every you know everything

1338
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 1: that he did and uh, but but the reality is,

1339
01:16:20,240 --> 01:16:23,880
Speaker 1: I'm never gonna I'm not gonna be anywhere near as

1340
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 1: a proficient as that guy, because that's what he does.

1341
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:29,479
Speaker 1: He's a brain surgeon. He does that, you know every day.

1342
01:16:29,800 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: And this is what what what these guys do. And um,

1343
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:37,240
Speaker 1: and no matter how perfunctory, how how how elementary it

1344
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:41,559
Speaker 1: seems on YouTube, UM, I know I can't. I know

1345
01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: I can't do it as well as as they do,

1346
01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:46,080
Speaker 1: although a lot of times I couldnvince myself I can.

1347
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 1: But don't let me. Don't let me anywhere near your

1348
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 1: head with a scalpel. We'll keep the scalpel far far away.

1349
01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:57,519
Speaker 1: So what should somebody be looking for actually in a

1350
01:16:57,520 --> 01:16:59,960
Speaker 1: piece of property. Let's go back to the hypothetical situation,

1351
01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,800
Speaker 1: aation where this is someone who's who's looking for a

1352
01:17:02,840 --> 01:17:05,920
Speaker 1: starter property that is great for hunting, but also might

1353
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 1: be a good investment to what specific types of features

1354
01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:12,960
Speaker 1: in a property or layout of a property, or maybe

1355
01:17:13,000 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 1: location would be good for that type of situation. We've

1356
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of you've mentioned a handful of different things throughout

1357
01:17:17,960 --> 01:17:19,599
Speaker 1: our conversation, but I kind of want to talk about

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01:17:19,640 --> 01:17:23,600
Speaker 1: it here in one place. What's the ideal property to

1359
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:27,280
Speaker 1: look for in this type of situation? Right? You know?

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01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 1: It's it's an interesting question. Um, okay, first and foremost,

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01:17:33,200 --> 01:17:36,479
Speaker 1: in an area or a region that if what you're

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01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:39,040
Speaker 1: looking for is a property that has an area that

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01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,920
Speaker 1: has produced big bugs, because I mean the reason for

1364
01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:45,360
Speaker 1: your purchases is for hunting, and and if it's just

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01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,719
Speaker 1: for for deer, uh, and I'd say just for deer.

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01:17:49,240 --> 01:17:52,960
Speaker 1: I don't play that down at all. It Uh. You know,

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01:17:53,000 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: there's more people, there's more people out there that are

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01:17:55,760 --> 01:17:58,960
Speaker 1: just interested in in in a piece of ground that

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01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,800
Speaker 1: they could hunt and have and have deer on the

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01:18:01,840 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 1: property and and uh and turkey on the property. I

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01:18:05,600 --> 01:18:10,160
Speaker 1: keep saying big deer. I And that's me because I'm

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01:18:10,240 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: obsessed with it. But the average person at the end

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01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 1: of the day, when we when we ask them what

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01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: they're looking for and what's important to them. Um, It's amazing, man.

1375
01:18:22,240 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 1: There's so many people just want deer to hunt on

1376
01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:28,439
Speaker 1: their property and they have in their mind. I would

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01:18:28,520 --> 01:18:30,840
Speaker 1: like to at once, at some point build a cabin

1378
01:18:30,960 --> 01:18:33,439
Speaker 1: on this property, and I would like to have a

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01:18:33,520 --> 01:18:36,560
Speaker 1: pond that I could see from the cabin, and I

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01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,920
Speaker 1: would like to come up here with my family and

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01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: and enjoy it, you know, come out here on weekends

1382
01:18:41,360 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: and hang out and and come up with the guys

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01:18:44,160 --> 01:18:46,680
Speaker 1: in the hunting season. And you know, those are the

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01:18:46,800 --> 01:18:52,120
Speaker 1: those are the things everybody. I approached this cautiously because

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01:18:52,200 --> 01:18:55,400
Speaker 1: everybody has a different dream, you know what I'm saying,

1386
01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,160
Speaker 1: what what what? What? What? I what is a dream

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01:18:58,200 --> 01:19:01,240
Speaker 1: to me on the property is totally different than than

1388
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,920
Speaker 1: most people. But let's say for a minute that it

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01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:09,519
Speaker 1: has to do with with deer. Um. Well, I would

1390
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:13,400
Speaker 1: research the areas that have produced the most dear or

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01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,680
Speaker 1: produced the most dear or the areas that produced the

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01:19:16,720 --> 01:19:21,280
Speaker 1: biggest deer, depending on what I'm after. When when every year, uh,

1393
01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,639
Speaker 1: they're killing big animals in a certain area, whether there's

1394
01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:28,920
Speaker 1: a few things to come into play, Uh, it's there's

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01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,120
Speaker 1: a very good chance that many of the landowners are

1396
01:19:33,160 --> 01:19:37,520
Speaker 1: also very good land stewards UH in managing the wildlife,

1397
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 1: that's really big deal. Um. We we have clients come

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01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 1: in from different states that their biggest concern is UH

1399
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:52,720
Speaker 1: trespassers or bad neighbors because they've had that experience in

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01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:58,160
Speaker 1: the state where they came from. You know. So, so

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01:19:58,240 --> 01:20:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm I'm interested in. I'm gonna tell you what I'm

1402
01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:04,800
Speaker 1: interested in first is an area that has a good

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01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: history of of producing quality animals. That's number one. Now

1404
01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:15,920
Speaker 1: as far as the habitat, To be totally honest with you,

1405
01:20:16,240 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: I don't I don't care that much depending on how

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01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:23,040
Speaker 1: much time I have uh to improve that property what

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01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,000
Speaker 1: I want to do with that property because um the

1408
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:31,280
Speaker 1: things that that property doesn't have also affects what the

1409
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: value that property is. So if I could purchase a

1410
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:39,080
Speaker 1: property UH in a in a good area and purchase

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01:20:39,160 --> 01:20:43,479
Speaker 1: it for a low enough price, I don't mind. UH. Like,

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01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,360
Speaker 1: for example, I think water is very important, but I

1413
01:20:46,360 --> 01:20:49,799
Speaker 1: I I will budget to put water in the property.

1414
01:20:49,800 --> 01:20:53,600
Speaker 1: I'll put a couple of ponds, small ponds on that property.

1415
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,160
Speaker 1: And UH as far as habitat, if it has very

1416
01:20:57,200 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: poor habitat. Um As I mentioned or elier that I

1417
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 1: would uh create a successional um of plants. Um. You know,

1418
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,320
Speaker 1: some of the highest protein on a farm sometimes is

1419
01:21:09,360 --> 01:21:12,280
Speaker 1: not what you got what you have in the food plot,

1420
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,960
Speaker 1: but it's what's growing wild throughout the property. Uh. There's

1421
01:21:15,960 --> 01:21:20,240
Speaker 1: a lot of forbes literally weeds that produce a ton

1422
01:21:20,320 --> 01:21:24,800
Speaker 1: of of of protein and are are highly uh attractive

1423
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:30,280
Speaker 1: to the deer, very digestible. Um, unbelievable. Um. There's there's

1424
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:35,559
Speaker 1: a Craig Harper, he's a wildlife biologist. He just came

1425
01:21:35,560 --> 01:21:37,920
Speaker 1: out with a book. You know, Craig Harper, is he

1426
01:21:38,400 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: just he just came out with a book and it's

1427
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 1: Uh it's called A Guide to Wildlife, Food Plots and

1428
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: Early Successional Plants. And it is the most complete book

1429
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: on everything that you need to know about improving the

1430
01:21:54,840 --> 01:21:57,960
Speaker 1: habitat that's ever been written. It is it's neat because

1431
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:01,639
Speaker 1: it's got a picture of every weed that you may

1432
01:22:01,680 --> 01:22:05,120
Speaker 1: have in the past try to get destroy get off

1433
01:22:05,160 --> 01:22:09,719
Speaker 1: your property that is high in protein and and uh

1434
01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 1: as far as holding, I mean, before you could grow

1435
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,400
Speaker 1: deer on your property, uh, and before you could even

1436
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:18,599
Speaker 1: hunt deer on your property, you you've got to hold them.

1437
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:22,120
Speaker 1: Hold those deer on your property and and uh, all

1438
01:22:22,160 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 1: these all these different forbes that are are edible. Uh

1439
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,280
Speaker 1: do just that they provide great bedding because they provide

1440
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:35,599
Speaker 1: really good cover and uh and they're there. They're also

1441
01:22:35,680 --> 01:22:40,599
Speaker 1: high in protein, very very very digestible, very uh consumable weeds.

1442
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: But anyhow, that's that's you could take a piece of

1443
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,719
Speaker 1: ground that has very little to nothing that to offer

1444
01:22:47,080 --> 01:22:49,280
Speaker 1: and turn it into a mega I mean, just a

1445
01:22:49,320 --> 01:22:53,799
Speaker 1: paradise for holding and growing deer, even if it doesn't.

1446
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 1: To me, the most important thing is that it's in

1447
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: an area that that has produced quality animals now before. Um.

1448
01:23:03,800 --> 01:23:07,520
Speaker 1: The other consideration, I'll back up. Uh, the other consideration

1449
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,280
Speaker 1: is is you could you could go to a piece

1450
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: of property and and take soil samples and determine if

1451
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: it's not a piece of property track of land that

1452
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 1: already has a portion of it that's tillable. Uh, you

1453
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:24,719
Speaker 1: could determine if that property, what's laying underneath that thatch

1454
01:23:25,240 --> 01:23:27,960
Speaker 1: is good tillable dirt or not. I mean, I I

1455
01:23:28,360 --> 01:23:31,639
Speaker 1: know people that have gosh, they they've thought they've purchased

1456
01:23:31,640 --> 01:23:35,519
Speaker 1: pieces of ground that looked just like a brushy track

1457
01:23:35,600 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 1: of nothing, you know, and uh, it turned out to

1458
01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,120
Speaker 1: be uh some of the best soils that you could have,

1459
01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:46,120
Speaker 1: And instantly the value went crazy when they tore it

1460
01:23:46,160 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: all up and UM dissed it up, fertilized it and

1461
01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:53,040
Speaker 1: and UH and planted it. It's so so those so

1462
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,120
Speaker 1: But but if you wanted the ideal situation, okay, you

1463
01:23:56,120 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: want the ideal situation, you don't want to start from

1464
01:23:58,360 --> 01:24:02,800
Speaker 1: scratch number one, a really good neighborhood, quality animals in

1465
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:07,240
Speaker 1: the neighborhood, and UH number two a mix of tillable

1466
01:24:07,400 --> 01:24:11,439
Speaker 1: and UH and brush your timber that UH will provide

1467
01:24:11,479 --> 01:24:19,040
Speaker 1: you a revenue stream and provide edge and provide good

1468
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 1: soil for for every every plant that grows out of

1469
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:27,320
Speaker 1: a good soil produces UH mass body mass and and

1470
01:24:27,439 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 1: UH and good animals. You know, all all that ties

1471
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 1: in together the the you know so so neat about earth.

1472
01:24:33,360 --> 01:24:36,719
Speaker 1: I mean just just the ground that's that's beneath our feet.

1473
01:24:37,080 --> 01:24:39,400
Speaker 1: And it's not only the foundation that we walk on.

1474
01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,840
Speaker 1: It's the foundation that everything everything comes from, you know,

1475
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,759
Speaker 1: I mean everything that that at some at some point,

1476
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:50,320
Speaker 1: whatever we eat comes from the ground, you know it, Uh,

1477
01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:53,439
Speaker 1: whatever whatever we do, I mean, it's all all from

1478
01:24:53,479 --> 01:24:57,240
Speaker 1: the ground. But but anyhow, um that that is that's

1479
01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,920
Speaker 1: kind of the mix it uh and and and the

1480
01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,479
Speaker 1: things that it doesn't have. You know what I like

1481
01:25:02,680 --> 01:25:06,959
Speaker 1: sometimes about um kind of starting from scratch, not completely

1482
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:11,639
Speaker 1: from scratch, but but I like putting the water where

1483
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:16,640
Speaker 1: it makes the most sense um when wise uh, the

1484
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,759
Speaker 1: food plots where they make the most sense access wise

1485
01:25:19,800 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 1: and win wise. Um. The I like to build my

1486
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 1: own um hinge cut my own betting areas again where

1487
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 1: they make the most sense. Um. See if if everything

1488
01:25:32,560 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 1: is already in place, sometimes you have to live with

1489
01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:39,080
Speaker 1: what's there. But but if you can add, if you

1490
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:41,760
Speaker 1: can make these changes to the ground and turn it

1491
01:25:41,760 --> 01:25:44,000
Speaker 1: into not only do you have food plots, and not

1492
01:25:44,080 --> 01:25:47,080
Speaker 1: only uh do you have betting areas, and not only

1493
01:25:47,120 --> 01:25:51,440
Speaker 1: do you have water, but you have those different elements

1494
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 1: where they're the most productive uh in your hunting. How

1495
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:57,800
Speaker 1: you can get in and get out and you know

1496
01:25:57,800 --> 01:25:59,920
Speaker 1: all those things. So I don't mind. I don't mind

1497
01:26:00,120 --> 01:26:02,720
Speaker 1: doing that stuff. If it has it all in the

1498
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:07,160
Speaker 1: in the perfect place, that's great. But yeah, that I

1499
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:09,280
Speaker 1: was gonna say that has always been what has gotten

1500
01:26:09,280 --> 01:26:11,599
Speaker 1: me the most excited about buying a piece of ground.

1501
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:15,280
Speaker 1: Is that ability to to manufacture kind of how you

1502
01:26:15,320 --> 01:26:17,519
Speaker 1: want all these different pieces to fit together in a

1503
01:26:17,520 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: really thoughtful strategic way that I mean that is great

1504
01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 1: for your hunting. And then the number two, I think

1505
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,840
Speaker 1: it's just a lot of fun. Um. So, so let's

1506
01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,400
Speaker 1: say I found this perfect piece of property for me,

1507
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: and maybe I'm in Ohio and I've gotten this nice

1508
01:26:32,000 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: little four to fifty acre piece that I can afford reasonably.

1509
01:26:35,200 --> 01:26:37,719
Speaker 1: I've got a decent way to get some cash rent

1510
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: out of it. I've got some layout possibilities. I'm liking

1511
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 1: all these things. A reel or help me find it?

1512
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:45,640
Speaker 1: What do we need to know about the process that

1513
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 1: happens next I've decided to sign on the dotted line?

1514
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:50,639
Speaker 1: What do I need to know that maybe the average

1515
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,679
Speaker 1: diagram might not know about what actually happens between saying

1516
01:26:53,760 --> 01:27:00,599
Speaker 1: yes and actually taking possession of that property. Well, um, yeah,

1517
01:27:00,640 --> 01:27:03,519
Speaker 1: I guess if you signed on the dotted line. Um,

1518
01:27:04,200 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: I would hope that before you signed on the dot

1519
01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:11,679
Speaker 1: dotted line, you have you have spoken to a banker lender,

1520
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:18,360
Speaker 1: and and you have you have checked out what what

1521
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,200
Speaker 1: that payment would be. You know, I mean that that

1522
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 1: that it fits your budget, your your finances. You know,

1523
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 1: you've got all that in line and so UM. And

1524
01:27:26,720 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 1: it depends if if you're working with a realtor, Uh

1525
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:34,120
Speaker 1: he he will. Uh in most cases, I won't say

1526
01:27:34,160 --> 01:27:36,920
Speaker 1: he will so so in in in in our case,

1527
01:27:37,000 --> 01:27:42,240
Speaker 1: what we do is, UH, you have your copy of

1528
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 1: the contract. Say say say we're to the step to

1529
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: where the seller has accepted your offer, and now we're

1530
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: going forward. Where do we go from here? Well, where

1531
01:27:50,840 --> 01:27:55,439
Speaker 1: we go from here is uh, we determine where we

1532
01:27:55,520 --> 01:28:02,880
Speaker 1: want to um, where we want to um close the transaction.

1533
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:06,000
Speaker 1: And and most a lot of states that's the the

1534
01:28:06,600 --> 01:28:09,960
Speaker 1: that's up to the the lender, or rather that's up

1535
01:28:09,960 --> 01:28:12,040
Speaker 1: to the seller where he wants to close. In some

1536
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: states you know it's it's a mutual wherever the a

1537
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,439
Speaker 1: could be either or but so, so we know the

1538
01:28:18,439 --> 01:28:20,320
Speaker 1: title company where we're going to close it, or we

1539
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:23,240
Speaker 1: know the the attorney that's going to close it. Uh So,

1540
01:28:23,240 --> 01:28:25,640
Speaker 1: so that attorney or that title company, he gets a

1541
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:31,439
Speaker 1: copy of the of the contract. Now we go to

1542
01:28:31,479 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 1: the lender. Of course, the lender gets a copy of

1543
01:28:34,320 --> 01:28:38,879
Speaker 1: the contract and UH and the the buyer would discuss

1544
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:41,880
Speaker 1: the terms with the lender to the lenders doing his

1545
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:47,920
Speaker 1: part and UH so now the real estate agent UM

1546
01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 1: who is working with the lender, he's working with the

1547
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: title company. UM will probably make the lender will probably

1548
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:59,919
Speaker 1: make the arrangements for an appraiser. So now the appraise

1549
01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:03,959
Speaker 1: there UH is involved. So you've got an appraiser involved,

1550
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 1: you have a lender involved, and you have a title

1551
01:29:06,560 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: company or an attorney involved in closing the transaction. Now

1552
01:29:11,040 --> 01:29:13,559
Speaker 1: there may be a case where the seller has an

1553
01:29:13,560 --> 01:29:17,400
Speaker 1: attorney and and the the buyer also has an attorney

1554
01:29:17,439 --> 01:29:20,080
Speaker 1: to look over all the paperwork. Now, as the agent,

1555
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,600
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that that both those attorneys

1556
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 1: have a copy of the contract as well, and all

1557
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,160
Speaker 1: of them involved in this process. All the parties involved

1558
01:29:31,160 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: in this process also have each other's contact information because

1559
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,519
Speaker 1: there's times when the of course, the title company needs

1560
01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 1: to talk to the lender and know its specifically who

1561
01:29:41,920 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 1: the loan officer is and and the and the UH

1562
01:29:47,000 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: seller and the buyer may want to know who the

1563
01:29:48,680 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: appraiser is to expect him on the property. And so

1564
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:56,920
Speaker 1: everybody knows everybody that's involved in the whole process. So

1565
01:29:56,920 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: so we on the on the contract itself, one of

1566
01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:04,720
Speaker 1: the terms of the of the offer UH is the

1567
01:30:04,760 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 1: closing date. So let's say the closing date is thirty days.

1568
01:30:08,520 --> 01:30:12,680
Speaker 1: And as the agent, my job is to keep every

1569
01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:18,479
Speaker 1: everyone that's in the in the transaction UH abreast of

1570
01:30:18,520 --> 01:30:22,559
Speaker 1: what's going on all the time, especially the seller and

1571
01:30:22,640 --> 01:30:26,880
Speaker 1: the buyer and UH as as the agent, I will

1572
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,879
Speaker 1: I would be in contact with them telling them, Okay,

1573
01:30:30,040 --> 01:30:34,040
Speaker 1: the title work is done, everything's on schedule. The appraiser

1574
01:30:34,080 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: will will do the have the appraisal done by by Thursday,

1575
01:30:38,320 --> 01:30:41,639
Speaker 1: have that information to the bank, and all this all

1576
01:30:41,680 --> 01:30:44,960
Speaker 1: these things are in motion and UH and they all

1577
01:30:45,040 --> 01:30:48,599
Speaker 1: have to happen uh by that by that closing date

1578
01:30:48,680 --> 01:30:54,240
Speaker 1: because if if all everything doesn't happen by the closing date,

1579
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: and that date of closing was a condition of the sale,

1580
01:30:57,120 --> 01:31:00,479
Speaker 1: which it is once it's on the contract, um, it

1581
01:31:00,520 --> 01:31:05,200
Speaker 1: actually that that contract is UH can be terminated. So

1582
01:31:05,240 --> 01:31:07,360
Speaker 1: you don't know, you never want that to happen, so

1583
01:31:07,439 --> 01:31:09,600
Speaker 1: you have to keep all all all that motion. I

1584
01:31:09,600 --> 01:31:11,719
Speaker 1: don't know when you ask me that question, if that

1585
01:31:11,720 --> 01:31:13,599
Speaker 1: that was what you were after, but that those are

1586
01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:17,280
Speaker 1: the elements that are that that happened after you say

1587
01:31:17,320 --> 01:31:19,280
Speaker 1: okay and everything and then of course the day of

1588
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,799
Speaker 1: the closing happens and and uh and then when everyone

1589
01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:26,760
Speaker 1: signs on the line there um they signed the the

1590
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:30,600
Speaker 1: settlement sheet, um, and they signed um all all of

1591
01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: the all the papers that have to do with the

1592
01:31:33,040 --> 01:31:38,360
Speaker 1: transfer of ownership. Everything's done there and as of that day,

1593
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:41,240
Speaker 1: it's your property, you, you and the bank. And that

1594
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 1: is a beautiful day. I would imagine. That's the day

1595
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:49,080
Speaker 1: I've I've dreamed about for sure. So so I'm feeling good.

1596
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:52,080
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like I've I've followed this process of everything

1597
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:54,559
Speaker 1: I need to do, from determining whether I can do it,

1598
01:31:54,840 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: to now finding how do I find a property to

1599
01:31:57,240 --> 01:31:59,720
Speaker 1: picking the right property to knowing what actually happens once

1600
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:02,559
Speaker 1: I side on that property. I feel like I'm ready

1601
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,599
Speaker 1: to go buy a farm now. So my wife probably

1602
01:32:04,600 --> 01:32:07,880
Speaker 1: won't be real happy with you, Dan, but oh oh no,

1603
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:10,960
Speaker 1: she'd be very happy. No, no, I don't think so.

1604
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: I think she'd be very happy. You know, I think

1605
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:17,400
Speaker 1: the I'll tell you what I'll mention this is is

1606
01:32:17,439 --> 01:32:20,240
Speaker 1: get get your wives and get your wives involved in

1607
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,120
Speaker 1: the process, because I mean, I remember, um, were we

1608
01:32:24,160 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 1: were just married that that that I say. Actually, I

1609
01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: was more like twenty. We got married very young and uh,

1610
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: and I think that first piece of that track of

1611
01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:36,240
Speaker 1: land that was five acres, I was so excited and

1612
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:40,400
Speaker 1: it's contagious and she was excited about it because of um,

1613
01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:43,960
Speaker 1: there's that's that's to me, that's the beginning of wealth.

1614
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:46,360
Speaker 1: Land is is that's that's where it's at. And what

1615
01:32:46,520 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 1: we we would go out there on weekends and we'd

1616
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:51,720
Speaker 1: have picnics on that property. We'd hang out on that

1617
01:32:51,800 --> 01:32:55,120
Speaker 1: property is five acres. Uh, and it was like when

1618
01:32:55,160 --> 01:32:59,120
Speaker 1: we really really enjoyed it, you know. And uh, it's

1619
01:32:59,400 --> 01:33:01,479
Speaker 1: I think it's a it's a good thing. A lot

1620
01:33:01,520 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: of times, a lot of times wives they don't get

1621
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:07,040
Speaker 1: involved in the process of the of the land purchase

1622
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:09,439
Speaker 1: unless maybe there's a house or a lodge or chalet

1623
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:13,520
Speaker 1: or something on the property. Then they're really involved. But um,

1624
01:33:14,800 --> 01:33:18,439
Speaker 1: it really is a good thing because what that property

1625
01:33:18,560 --> 01:33:22,840
Speaker 1: might represent when you purchase it, as far as um

1626
01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:25,600
Speaker 1: that that you're spending money actually turns out to be

1627
01:33:25,680 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 1: one of the best investments as a couple that you'll

1628
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,599
Speaker 1: ever make in your life, you know. And that's that's

1629
01:33:30,680 --> 01:33:33,519
Speaker 1: a that's a big deal. That makes sense, makes sense.

1630
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,360
Speaker 1: So so I have one final question for you, Dan,

1631
01:33:36,400 --> 01:33:38,519
Speaker 1: But before you get to that, Dallas, do you have

1632
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,120
Speaker 1: a final question you want you want to throw out there?

1633
01:33:42,040 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 1: Maybe just one. What are some common mistakes for in

1634
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:52,320
Speaker 1: in a process that a potential buyer or maybe even

1635
01:33:52,600 --> 01:33:56,559
Speaker 1: seller makes when you know, buying or selling a piece

1636
01:33:56,600 --> 01:34:03,960
Speaker 1: of property. Mm hmm hm. Well, what one of the

1637
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:08,679
Speaker 1: one of the biggest mistakes that a seller can ever

1638
01:34:08,760 --> 01:34:11,360
Speaker 1: make when selling a piece of property is not disclosing

1639
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:16,880
Speaker 1: something that is a defect of the property. Um, maybe

1640
01:34:16,920 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 1: there's there's a there's an oil tank under the ground

1641
01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 1: or something, and and he doesn't disclose it because he

1642
01:34:23,640 --> 01:34:26,040
Speaker 1: doesn't want to pay to have it removed, and he

1643
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:28,839
Speaker 1: and he doesn't want that to scare somebody that's interested

1644
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,280
Speaker 1: in the property. Um, if there is anything that's a

1645
01:34:33,479 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 1: potential um hidden defect, it has to be disclosed. That's

1646
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:41,600
Speaker 1: the biggest mistake of seller can make. Another mistake of

1647
01:34:41,640 --> 01:34:45,439
Speaker 1: seller could make is not disclosing that there is someone

1648
01:34:45,479 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 1: else that has ownership of that property with him. You know,

1649
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,639
Speaker 1: like sometimes a couple of people go in and buy

1650
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 1: a property and uh, the seller thinks that one of

1651
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: them thinks, well, I'm gonna I'm gonna get this thing

1652
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:01,639
Speaker 1: on the market, and I think once I get a buyer,

1653
01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,760
Speaker 1: I'll be able to talk my partner into selling it. Um.

1654
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: That turns legal and ugly very fast when when the

1655
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:15,840
Speaker 1: partner doesn't want to uh to sell it and you've

1656
01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:18,760
Speaker 1: got an offer for the full price, you know. Um.

1657
01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:23,880
Speaker 1: Uh that's that's something that as a seller you just can't.

1658
01:35:24,439 --> 01:35:27,040
Speaker 1: You can't. You can't play games with stuff like that.

1659
01:35:27,160 --> 01:35:29,240
Speaker 1: You have to be honest. Everything has to be open,

1660
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:36,120
Speaker 1: honest and transparent. Uh. As a buyer, UM, I think

1661
01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:40,080
Speaker 1: that I think the most important thing is a buyer

1662
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:44,880
Speaker 1: is uh, don't settle you know, uh, make sure that

1663
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:48,639
Speaker 1: that that that is the property that that you want

1664
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:53,400
Speaker 1: to purchase. And and when when it is, you'll know it. Uh,

1665
01:35:53,240 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: you definitely won't know it it Uh, it's it's I

1666
01:35:57,479 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: could say that and and uh I don't. I don't

1667
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,439
Speaker 1: even know that I could quantify it. I don't even

1668
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: know if I could explain it. But you you'll know

1669
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:10,080
Speaker 1: it is. UM. With me, I run a lot of numbers, um,

1670
01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:14,800
Speaker 1: and and I run numbers too. I've had properties that

1671
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:17,080
Speaker 1: I wanted and I wanted and I wanted, and the

1672
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:19,439
Speaker 1: numbers just don't make sense. I gotta get that cash

1673
01:36:19,479 --> 01:36:21,880
Speaker 1: rent up. And the next thing that I do now

1674
01:36:22,560 --> 01:36:27,120
Speaker 1: I don't even own the property, but uh I I am, um,

1675
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:31,400
Speaker 1: I'm discussing with farmers. Uh given me a bid on

1676
01:36:31,479 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 1: that on that on that track. And I have a

1677
01:36:33,880 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: permission from the landowner to allow them to come on

1678
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: to the property before I even own it. And and

1679
01:36:39,200 --> 01:36:44,679
Speaker 1: they're getting bids on it. Um or um. I've run

1680
01:36:44,760 --> 01:36:50,160
Speaker 1: numbers where I've I've had timber, the timber cruised and uh,

1681
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:53,360
Speaker 1: and I've I've made that part of the equations. So

1682
01:36:53,560 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 1: you know a lot of times you think, man, that's

1683
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,320
Speaker 1: I can't. It doesn't it doesn't work. I can't. It isn't.

1684
01:37:00,479 --> 01:37:02,680
Speaker 1: Uh it doesn't math out for me. I won't be

1685
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:05,960
Speaker 1: able to afford it. Um, don't give up so quick,

1686
01:37:06,080 --> 01:37:09,280
Speaker 1: you know, pull that calculator out and get a little resourceful,

1687
01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:14,320
Speaker 1: because I've had situations where I thought I couldn't afford it.

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01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:17,920
Speaker 1: Not only was I able to afford it, but it

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01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,120
Speaker 1: made me money right off the bat. I was making money.

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01:37:21,680 --> 01:37:25,120
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing, see to me, the purchase of land.

1691
01:37:25,240 --> 01:37:28,160
Speaker 1: Yes you're gonna enjoy it, Yes, it's gonna be what

1692
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:31,400
Speaker 1: you always wanted. All those things are great, but it

1693
01:37:31,479 --> 01:37:35,360
Speaker 1: will to me. It's like it's like a business. It's

1694
01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:38,320
Speaker 1: like when you purchased that piece of land and you're

1695
01:37:38,360 --> 01:37:41,679
Speaker 1: smart about it, that piece of land is is uh

1696
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:44,800
Speaker 1: is it one of the best investments not only when

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01:37:44,800 --> 01:37:47,240
Speaker 1: you sell it, but immediately when you bought it, that

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01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:50,920
Speaker 1: that you that you've ever made. Um So that that's

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01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,040
Speaker 1: something that now my first piece of ground was like

1700
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:57,160
Speaker 1: that's smart. No, my second piece of ground no, But

1701
01:37:57,160 --> 01:38:01,320
Speaker 1: but you learn and uh, you know, there was there

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01:38:01,400 --> 01:38:06,320
Speaker 1: wasn't someone like me to to help other people that

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01:38:06,400 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 1: had not walked down that road before. Um. When I

1704
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,200
Speaker 1: bought land there there there weren't land specialists there there

1705
01:38:13,320 --> 01:38:16,519
Speaker 1: was there were no people that could tell you, um,

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01:38:16,560 --> 01:38:19,080
Speaker 1: you know my first few ture acts of land how

1707
01:38:19,120 --> 01:38:25,000
Speaker 1: it could make financial sense. Um. So those those are

1708
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:27,519
Speaker 1: things that are very important to to me. You know

1709
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,080
Speaker 1: when you ask a lot of times you'll you'll ask, um,

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01:38:30,960 --> 01:38:35,200
Speaker 1: open ended, what should a buyer? Well, um, all I

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01:38:35,240 --> 01:38:37,640
Speaker 1: could relate to is is me as a buyer. You

1712
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:40,000
Speaker 1: know what I mean it? Uh, there's because we're all

1713
01:38:40,120 --> 01:38:42,400
Speaker 1: so different the way that we we approached things and

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01:38:42,439 --> 01:38:45,200
Speaker 1: what's important to us. But what's really important to me,

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01:38:45,720 --> 01:38:49,439
Speaker 1: Number one is that it's a good investment. Is and

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01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,960
Speaker 1: that it is the farm that, uh, that I want. Now,

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01:38:53,080 --> 01:38:55,519
Speaker 1: if it was the farm that I really wanted, and

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01:38:55,520 --> 01:38:58,400
Speaker 1: and and and I'm pretty prudent. If it doesn't make

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01:38:58,439 --> 01:39:01,360
Speaker 1: financial sense, I won't buy it. It's got to make

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01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:04,080
Speaker 1: financial sense. Just the fact that it has big bucks

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01:39:04,520 --> 01:39:09,200
Speaker 1: is not enough for me. Now. Now if the next

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01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:13,759
Speaker 1: guy might uh, it might have money to burn, and

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01:39:13,760 --> 01:39:17,000
Speaker 1: and that might make a big difference, you know it, Uh,

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01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,200
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, but but it does to me. So

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01:39:20,200 --> 01:39:23,760
Speaker 1: so that those are the things that I would look

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01:39:23,800 --> 01:39:28,360
Speaker 1: at as a buyer or seller. I tell you what,

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01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:32,160
Speaker 1: There's there's definitely a lot you shared there that that

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01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: is intriguing, that definitely makes us intriguing. I think, really

1729
01:39:35,479 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 1: how you framed it as a business business decision. I

1730
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,479
Speaker 1: think I've always felt guilty wanting to buy something like

1731
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:44,320
Speaker 1: this because it would be something I would just enjoy.

1732
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,320
Speaker 1: But I think there is a lot of It makes

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01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:49,760
Speaker 1: a lot of sense when you think about it from

1734
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,360
Speaker 1: a from a number standpoint. If you can, if you

1735
01:39:52,360 --> 01:39:54,320
Speaker 1: can find a way to make this a positive investment

1736
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,200
Speaker 1: in the long run, and you get to also have

1737
01:39:56,280 --> 01:39:59,479
Speaker 1: some fun with it too. That's uh, that certainly is appealing.

1738
01:39:59,640 --> 01:40:02,360
Speaker 1: So so here's my my last question for you. Damn.

1739
01:40:03,600 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you remember the first deer you killed on a

1740
01:40:07,479 --> 01:40:10,439
Speaker 1: property you owned? And if so, can you tell us

1741
01:40:10,479 --> 01:40:14,880
Speaker 1: about that moment? Yeah, yeah, I'll tell you. I tell

1742
01:40:14,920 --> 01:40:16,559
Speaker 1: you We're led up to it. You know, it's kind

1743
01:40:16,560 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: of kind of weird that you asked me that, because

1744
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:24,519
Speaker 1: I don't think you ever forget that. Um, I remember,

1745
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,680
Speaker 1: I remember I hunted it. Uh this track of land

1746
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:33,519
Speaker 1: I bought and I remember, um, that's about the second

1747
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,719
Speaker 1: time I I hunted it. It It was early in the morning,

1748
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:39,960
Speaker 1: and uh, the sun was coming up and that you

1749
01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:43,760
Speaker 1: know that that that soft orange sun, that golden sun

1750
01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,479
Speaker 1: just shines through the woods, and you've got those those

1751
01:40:47,520 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: shadows that just lay uh for long lengths through the

1752
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,479
Speaker 1: fep timber, and and it was just like the leaves

1753
01:40:54,560 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 1: were kind of took on a shade of orange from

1754
01:40:57,960 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: the sunlight. And about you know, the u you know,

1755
01:41:02,000 --> 01:41:04,439
Speaker 1: the woods wake up in the morning. The birds started

1756
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,719
Speaker 1: to sing and everything, and I'm up there, I'm about

1757
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,640
Speaker 1: eighteen feet in the tree and it was Chris, was

1758
01:41:10,680 --> 01:41:13,400
Speaker 1: a cool morning that maybe eight miles an hour the wind.

1759
01:41:13,439 --> 01:41:18,720
Speaker 1: It was really that perfect morning. And I remember I'm

1760
01:41:18,720 --> 01:41:21,800
Speaker 1: looking down this creek and across the land and all

1761
01:41:21,840 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 1: this beautiful stuff is going on, and it's like, holy count,

1762
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:29,320
Speaker 1: I owned this, you know what I mean? It was

1763
01:41:29,360 --> 01:41:31,720
Speaker 1: like I letty that that I had one of those

1764
01:41:31,760 --> 01:41:34,679
Speaker 1: moments where this is this is mine? And what what

1765
01:41:34,680 --> 01:41:38,000
Speaker 1: what went through my mind is is all all the

1766
01:41:38,040 --> 01:41:42,200
Speaker 1: people uh to that point in my life that uh,

1767
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:45,800
Speaker 1: I'd introduced myself and I knocked on their doors and

1768
01:41:45,800 --> 01:41:49,479
Speaker 1: and uh and and they said, no, I've got somebody

1769
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 1: that hunts this land, I wouldn't be interested in leasing

1770
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:57,920
Speaker 1: it or or even before that, Um, no, I don't.

1771
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:03,240
Speaker 1: I don't allow hunters all my property. Uh. You know,

1772
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,720
Speaker 1: just just all the years of of of just struggling

1773
01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:09,400
Speaker 1: to to just find a place to hunt. Now here

1774
01:42:09,439 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 1: I am sitting in a tree and this is all mine.

1775
01:42:12,720 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: That is that is a crazy I mean, it's a

1776
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:20,120
Speaker 1: feeling that I can't even describe. Um. And then the

1777
01:42:20,200 --> 01:42:23,760
Speaker 1: first buck that I had shot, um what what was

1778
01:42:23,880 --> 01:42:27,960
Speaker 1: by no means a monster? Uh? But it was a

1779
01:42:28,000 --> 01:42:30,880
Speaker 1: solid you know, I think that animals A solid hundred

1780
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:36,720
Speaker 1: buck and uh, Um, I remember I I shot him.

1781
01:42:37,040 --> 01:42:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, I ar him. I could I could tell

1782
01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:41,040
Speaker 1: you every step he took. I to tell you everything

1783
01:42:41,080 --> 01:42:44,120
Speaker 1: that he rubbed, everything that he that he smelled, everything

1784
01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:49,439
Speaker 1: that was going on that morning. But I'll I'll tell

1785
01:42:49,439 --> 01:42:51,760
Speaker 1: you this. It almost like when I turned loose that

1786
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:55,559
Speaker 1: arrow and and and uh, and it went through him

1787
01:42:55,560 --> 01:42:59,479
Speaker 1: and he spawned. Um, it was so fast that and

1788
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 1: he ran and and I looked back at the ground

1789
01:43:02,720 --> 01:43:06,000
Speaker 1: and uh, and there was the arrow, you know, And yep,

1790
01:43:06,360 --> 01:43:08,720
Speaker 1: I hit him. I could see clearly that I. I

1791
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:11,680
Speaker 1: hit him good. Um. And he ran out there, and

1792
01:43:11,720 --> 01:43:14,000
Speaker 1: he ran through the timber to the edge of the field,

1793
01:43:14,439 --> 01:43:20,120
Speaker 1: and uh he stopped. And and now I'm talking about

1794
01:43:20,720 --> 01:43:24,519
Speaker 1: seconds probably between the time that he I he I

1795
01:43:24,600 --> 01:43:27,519
Speaker 1: shot him, and he ran through the timber and came

1796
01:43:27,560 --> 01:43:30,519
Speaker 1: out the other end and stopped. Uh was probably a

1797
01:43:30,520 --> 01:43:33,400
Speaker 1: total of five seconds. You know how that go. It's

1798
01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 1: just like it's just like bam, run and it's like

1799
01:43:36,880 --> 01:43:42,519
Speaker 1: five seconds. But it was like flow motion. Uh, it

1800
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:46,479
Speaker 1: was surreal. And and and he he he stood there

1801
01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:50,879
Speaker 1: and he stumbled to his right, and then he regained

1802
01:43:50,920 --> 01:43:53,559
Speaker 1: his his footing and then stumbled to the left, regained

1803
01:43:53,600 --> 01:43:57,800
Speaker 1: his footing and then fell and UH. And that whole

1804
01:43:57,840 --> 01:44:00,880
Speaker 1: thing must have lasted seven seconds. It was double on.

1805
01:44:01,200 --> 01:44:03,720
Speaker 1: He ran out there, stopped on the edge of the

1806
01:44:03,760 --> 01:44:06,559
Speaker 1: field and was running out of oxygen to the brain

1807
01:44:06,760 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 1: and collapsed and so UM. But I could see it vividly,

1808
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:14,800
Speaker 1: and it's been a lot of years ago. I see

1809
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: it crystal clear, vividly, and and in in fact, UM,

1810
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,679
Speaker 1: I'll tell you this. I could go to I could

1811
01:44:21,680 --> 01:44:23,720
Speaker 1: go to Kansas. I I go to Kansas, or I

1812
01:44:23,760 --> 01:44:27,200
Speaker 1: could go to Missouri. I could go my farm have

1813
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:30,000
Speaker 1: a farm in Missouri, and I have a farm in Illinois.

1814
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:33,080
Speaker 1: But I could go anywhere other than my own personal farm.

1815
01:44:33,080 --> 01:44:35,320
Speaker 1: And I could kill an animal it's twenty times larger

1816
01:44:35,360 --> 01:44:39,400
Speaker 1: than the one that I killed on my farm. Uh.

1817
01:44:39,520 --> 01:44:42,120
Speaker 1: But there's nothing more rewarding than the animal that you

1818
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:47,040
Speaker 1: harvested on the farm UH that grew that animal and

1819
01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:49,519
Speaker 1: UH and and all the work that you put into

1820
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: that that farm. UH to be in that position when

1821
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:57,120
Speaker 1: you harvested animal, because I tell you, and the other

1822
01:44:57,160 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 1: thing that happens is uh, I I didn't mention and

1823
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:02,760
Speaker 1: I enjoy the hack out of everything we've talked about

1824
01:45:02,760 --> 01:45:06,800
Speaker 1: as far as developing a farm. But what what I

1825
01:45:06,840 --> 01:45:12,280
Speaker 1: didn't mentioned is, uh, how you you have a relationship

1826
01:45:12,479 --> 01:45:17,080
Speaker 1: with each animal if you start journaling, uh, every one

1827
01:45:17,120 --> 01:45:19,760
Speaker 1: of these bucks, every ship that you find, and and

1828
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:22,559
Speaker 1: you you you date them, and you label them, and

1829
01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:24,680
Speaker 1: you and you try to match them up, and you

1830
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:28,320
Speaker 1: study these animals on your property. Uh, and then when

1831
01:45:28,320 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 1: that animal is four years old, you're saying, man, he's

1832
01:45:30,600 --> 01:45:32,599
Speaker 1: pretty cool. And then when you kill him and he's

1833
01:45:32,640 --> 01:45:35,519
Speaker 1: six years old, it is like, holy cow, it is

1834
01:45:35,680 --> 01:45:38,479
Speaker 1: it's it's it's a totally different experience, you know it.

1835
01:45:38,800 --> 01:45:42,639
Speaker 1: Um so so that not only do I remember that

1836
01:45:42,640 --> 01:45:45,360
Speaker 1: that first animal, in that first moment and how I felt,

1837
01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 1: but but I I have a relationship almost with every animal. Uh.

1838
01:45:52,040 --> 01:45:54,720
Speaker 1: There are animals obviously, especially during the rut, to come

1839
01:45:54,760 --> 01:45:57,200
Speaker 1: in and go out and I may never see him again.

1840
01:45:57,520 --> 01:45:59,800
Speaker 1: But there is a there is a family herd that

1841
01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:03,880
Speaker 1: I know intimately. And uh, of course my job is

1842
01:46:03,880 --> 01:46:08,040
Speaker 1: is that they don't know me intimately. However, obviously a

1843
01:46:08,040 --> 01:46:10,679
Speaker 1: lot of them do. You know. It's it's it's pretty

1844
01:46:10,720 --> 01:46:14,320
Speaker 1: pretty amazing process. That is awesome. I've been blessed to

1845
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,680
Speaker 1: experience something similar to that that but I'm proper to

1846
01:46:18,720 --> 01:46:21,200
Speaker 1: I only have permission on or least, but I definitely

1847
01:46:21,320 --> 01:46:23,880
Speaker 1: dream of one day being able to go through that

1848
01:46:23,920 --> 01:46:26,880
Speaker 1: whole process on a piece of ground that I've owned

1849
01:46:26,920 --> 01:46:30,439
Speaker 1: and managed and hunted. It's uh, it sounds like an

1850
01:46:30,479 --> 01:46:32,760
Speaker 1: incredible thing to be able to do, and I think

1851
01:46:33,080 --> 01:46:36,559
Speaker 1: both myself and Dallas and many of our listeners I

1852
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,080
Speaker 1: think are hoping to do the same someday, and this

1853
01:46:39,240 --> 01:46:42,519
Speaker 1: has certainly helps us, I think, along that process and

1854
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 1: helps us get started. So so, Dan, thank you so

1855
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,360
Speaker 1: much for sharing your your huge amount of experience with this.

1856
01:46:48,600 --> 01:46:51,920
Speaker 1: It's it's been very helpful and um for anyone that

1857
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:55,840
Speaker 1: wants to learn more about white Tail properties, where should

1858
01:46:55,840 --> 01:46:59,760
Speaker 1: they go online? Yes, it's uh, it's it's simply that

1859
01:46:59,800 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: why teo properties dot com. Okay, perfect, well, we will

1860
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,880
Speaker 1: link to that and uh, as we mentioned before you

1861
01:47:07,000 --> 01:47:09,200
Speaker 1: got on the line with us, Dan, me and Dallas

1862
01:47:09,240 --> 01:47:11,120
Speaker 1: both spend a lot of time on your website just

1863
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:14,839
Speaker 1: dreaming and looking at those properties and wondering maybe someday,

1864
01:47:14,920 --> 01:47:16,880
Speaker 1: So I'm sure, I'm sure we'll be doing that again

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01:47:16,960 --> 01:47:19,280
Speaker 1: soon and we'll be checking out that that website and link.

1866
01:47:19,360 --> 01:47:22,679
Speaker 1: So Dan, thanks so much for joining us. Today. Yeah,

1867
01:47:22,760 --> 01:47:25,559
Speaker 1: thank you guys, very awesome. I appreciate the opportunity to

1868
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,040
Speaker 1: be able to share with you and and your audience.

1869
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:31,000
Speaker 1: Thank you absolutely well. Good luck this next hunting season.

1870
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:34,120
Speaker 1: Hell you too, man. Just just every every day I

1871
01:47:34,400 --> 01:47:36,439
Speaker 1: feel very blessed and very fortunate just being on this

1872
01:47:36,479 --> 01:47:41,559
Speaker 1: side of the ground. But uh, I appreciate, uh the

1873
01:47:41,560 --> 01:47:45,240
Speaker 1: the good luck on the honey. Thank you, thanks a lot,

1874
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:48,760
Speaker 1: having great evens, see you guys, bye bye, And with

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01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:52,000
Speaker 1: that we are going to call this a rap. But

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01:47:52,240 --> 01:47:54,840
Speaker 1: before we let you go, a quick heads up. We've

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01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:57,560
Speaker 1: recently launched a new video series over on Wired to

1878
01:47:57,640 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: Hunt and the Wired to Hunt YouTube channel which I'm

1879
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:02,880
Speaker 1: releasing a new short weekly video on all sorts of

1880
01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,360
Speaker 1: different hunting related topics and in a lot of different

1881
01:48:05,720 --> 01:48:08,040
Speaker 1: unique formats, so I think you'll really get a kick

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01:48:08,040 --> 01:48:09,880
Speaker 1: out of it. So be sure to head over to

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01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:13,599
Speaker 1: the Wired to Hunt YouTube channel at YouTube dot com

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01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 1: slash wired to Hunt, check out the videos there, and

1885
01:48:17,200 --> 01:48:19,280
Speaker 1: subscribe to that channel so you'll be able to see

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01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:21,880
Speaker 1: all the new episodes in the coming weeks. And speaking

1887
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:25,320
Speaker 1: of subscribing, if you've not yet subscribed to this podcast,

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01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:28,280
Speaker 1: make sure you do that too. On iTunes or Stitcher

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Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts. So finally, we need

1890
01:48:31,600 --> 01:48:33,360
Speaker 1: to give a big thank you to our partners who

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01:48:33,439 --> 01:48:37,000
Speaker 1: helped make this podcast possible. So big thanks to sick Gear,

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Speaker 1: North America. And finally, most importantly, thank you all for

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Speaker 1: joining us today. I hope you enjoyed this one. Until

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Speaker 1: next time, stay wired to Hunt the beating that