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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us. I know probably

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Speaker 2: a lot of you had a long weekend. We were

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Speaker 2: here yesterday on President's Day. If you missed it, you

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Speaker 2: can go grab the podcast as always make sure you

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Speaker 2: never miss a minute. You can search out my name

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Speaker 2: Clay Travis, you can search out Buck Sexton. You can

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Speaker 2: be a part of the podcast network, and also you

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Speaker 2: can enjoy Iheart's actual news that does not have a

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Speaker 2: crazy slant inside of the iHeartRadio app. But unfortunately, Buck,

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Speaker 2: there are still a lot of crazy slants that are

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Speaker 2: coming out of the legacy media. And we talked about

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Speaker 2: this yesterday, but I want to continue to hammer it

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Speaker 2: because I'm still in disbelief in many ways that this

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Speaker 2: is where we are. That on CBS News could say, hey,

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Speaker 2: the reason the Holocaust happened was because of free speech,

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Speaker 2: and then later in the day they could go have

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Speaker 2: a story up on sixty Minutes from Germany where they

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Speaker 2: praise the raid of a German citizen who had shared

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Speaker 2: a meme that the government authorities decided they did not

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Speaker 2: like and I understand some of you are not active

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Speaker 2: on social media for people who don't know. A meme,

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Speaker 2: which is basically how my boys communicate. The younger you are,

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Speaker 2: the more typically you are into memes is often just

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Speaker 2: a humorous take on something in the world of current events,

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Speaker 1: It's a joke.

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Speaker 2: And now they have decided that if jokes are considered

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Speaker 2: to be offensive or insulting in Germany, that the government

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Speaker 2: should conduct a raid and you can be arrested for

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Speaker 2: a joke, a meme, a offensive commentary that you may

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Speaker 1: And so and so.

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Speaker 2: Let's actually listen, because we didn't play this cut yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Let's actually listen to what it sounds like live on

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Speaker 2: sixty minutes.

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Speaker 1: This aired in America.

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Speaker 2: They are out there arguing that, hey, we need to

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Speaker 2: have the German police joined on this raid.

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Speaker 1: This is cut eleven.

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Speaker 3: It's six' oh one on a Tuesday morning, and we

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Speaker 3: were with state police as they raided this apartment in

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Speaker 3: northwest Germany, just to put it inside. Inside, six armed

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Speaker 3: officers searched to suspects home, then seized his laptop and

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Speaker 3: to commit a crime, the crime posting a racist cartoon online.

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Speaker 3: At the exact same time, across Germany supposed to be

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Speaker 3: the world, more than fifty similar raids played out, part

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Speaker 3: online hate speech in Germany.

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Speaker 2: Buck, I can't believe this is real, and I think

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Speaker 2: it's important for you all to understand, because this is

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Speaker 2: what the left would do in this country if they

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Speaker 2: could a pre dawn raid.

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Speaker 1: Of an apartment of a German.

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Speaker 2: Citizen because somebody in the government decided that they had

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Speaker 1: One of fifty.

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Speaker 2: Simultaneous raids, six with a camera crew in tow, six

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Speaker 2: different government agents going into an apartment and see using

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Speaker 2: is crazy, Buck.

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Speaker 4: This is true across Europe, and it is also a

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Speaker 4: mentality that is shared by the Canadian government. And it

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Speaker 4: is also a mentality that democrats in this country wish

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Speaker 4: they had the power to enforce. And during COVID they

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Speaker 4: did for a while. During COVID they got they got

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Speaker 4: really close to this. I mean when they were shutting

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Speaker 4: masking policy enough. Like morons, you know, meaning you're a

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Speaker 4: moron if you think that a mask policy in a

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Speaker 4: the kind of stuff that ends up happening in a

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Speaker 4: society that has abandoned first principles. There are a few

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Speaker 4: things that are going on here that are really important. One, Clay,

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Speaker 4: this is always wait, actually I would step back for

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Speaker 4: a second for journalists to go along on this, yeah,

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Speaker 1: For journalists to go.

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Speaker 4: And be like, oh wow, look at this, look at

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Speaker 4: the Stasi like crackdown because of memes, it just shows

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Speaker 4: you what a fraud I mean this is journalists are

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Speaker 4: and honestly, it's not about oh, there are some good

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Speaker 4: They either tell you the truth about what they think

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Speaker 2: This is also why culture matters. And I keep hammering

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Speaker 2: more and more and certainly running a business. No One

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Speaker 2: at CBS buck, and this is what you're hitting at

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Speaker 2: at No one at CBS News said wait a moment.

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Speaker 2: Our entire industry is predicated on the idea that we

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Speaker 2: have free speech. No one raised a hand and said, hey,

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Speaker 2: should we be covering in a positive manner? German authorities

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Speaker 2: rating in the early morning hours a random person's house

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Speaker 2: over a joke that they posted on laws.

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Speaker 4: But this is why they're telling on themselves. They agree

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Speaker 4: with this. This is the CBS is covering the German

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Speaker 4: meme raids with envy. The journals in there thinking, if

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Speaker 4: only we could do this, we could have our DEI back,

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Speaker 4: and our affirmative action back, and our left wing trans

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Speaker 4: policies back, and our go down the list. If only

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Speaker 4: we could suppress speech the way they do in Germany,

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Speaker 4: we would be a better society. This also leads to

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Speaker 4: the Margaret Brennan comment about free speech leads to the Holocaust,

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Speaker 4: which are directly connected.

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Speaker 1: Of course, it's against all the same mentality.

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Speaker 4: So what we're showing you in Germany or what we're

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Speaker 4: talking about happening in Europe right now, UK and other places.

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Speaker 4: Guy arrested for silent prayer. That's stock crime, straight up

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Speaker 4: thought crime. There's no other way. It's what were you

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Speaker 4: thinking when you were standing in that place? Here's what

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Speaker 4: I was thinking. You're under arrest. This is something that

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Speaker 4: the that the left has tried to import here. I

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Speaker 4: think if Donald Trump had lost this election, they would

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Speaker 4: have kept pushing and gotten even closer to it, because

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Speaker 4: have been trying to lock Trump up. I mean all

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Speaker 4: the things we know, all the things that would have happened.

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Speaker 4: And a big, another big part of this, specifically in

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Speaker 4: the European context, clay that I think very much translates

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Speaker 4: into the American context. What are the means? What is

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Speaker 4: this stuff really about? You know what it's about illegals

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Speaker 4: coming into their or I shouldn't even say illegals. In

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Speaker 4: their case, they're legal. Actually they're migrants to the government

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Speaker 4: has allowed in Muslim migrants, particularly from Afghanistan Syria, a

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Speaker 4: number of war toward countries coming into their countries, committing

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Speaker 4: terrorist acts, raping women, sexually assaulting women in packs in

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Speaker 4: numbers that these European countries haven't ever seen before, Meaning

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Speaker 4: they're dealing with these spikes in crime. I mean, you

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Speaker 4: don't have to we have we'll play it later. The

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Speaker 4: CEO of Palenteers saying, well, I was just gonna say,

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Speaker 4: yeah it right now. I think let's do it right now.

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Speaker 1: Let's go.

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Speaker 4: Here's this, here's Alex Karp of Palenteer. It's about a

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Speaker 4: minute clip. I really want you to listen to it,

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Speaker 4: because this is what the meme wars and they're trying

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Speaker 5: You lived in Germany for half your life. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: there is a big debate going on about the politics

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Speaker 5: in Germany right now. You're also Jewish and there is

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Speaker 5: of the alt right movement in Germany. While there have

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Speaker 5: been questions about their association with some supporting Nazis and

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Speaker 5: other things, I'm curious where you land on that.

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Speaker 6: I don't want to go into the technicolwitch here. But

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Speaker 6: the real the problem in Germany is that somehow the

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Speaker 6: small portion of Germans that believe you cannot talk about

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Speaker 6: migration without being a bigot, which is about probably fifteen

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Speaker 6: ninety percent of them vote for the Green parties, have

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Speaker 6: which basically, as a matter of pragmatic power, shifts all

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Speaker 6: immigration policy to a small group of people that literally

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Speaker 6: will not let you discuss the fact that Afghani immigrants

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Speaker 6: to German population to commit certain kind of crimes, and

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Speaker 6: that in the last couple of weeks, every single terror attack,

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Speaker 6: every single tarror attack, has been the result.

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Speaker 1: You go to jail for pointing that out. You'll get

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Speaker 4: That's that's what all this is about. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Europeans are saying, hey, you guys, realize that if we

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Speaker 4: we basically would have no sexual we'd have no rapes

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Speaker 4: of this. The governments that did this, like Angela Miracle's

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Speaker 4: one world government paradigm play. They sold out their countries

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Speaker 4: why they're rising in some of these countries because people

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Speaker 4: people actually don't want to be mowed down by maniacs

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Speaker 4: back apparently because otherwise they can't go home. They don't

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Speaker 4: public square on Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: That's okay that they're allowed to not want that.

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Speaker 2: Yes, And also cultures aren't all equal like cultures inside.

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Speaker 2: I think this is my my BA spent time in Afghanis.

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Speaker 4: Afghanistan is an inferior culture to the United States in

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Speaker 4: every respect, okay, in every respect, and.

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Speaker 2: It's across companies too. That's why the CBS news culture,

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Speaker 2: which should be committed to aggressive pursuit of the truth,

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Speaker 2: is not right. It's a legacy news organization that has

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Speaker 2: decided that the marketplace of ideas is a threat, which

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Speaker 2: is actually the antithesis of what news media should be doing.

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Speaker 2: The culture has ossified and it has become broken, and

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Speaker 2: the culture of Germany is better than the culture of

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Speaker 2: many of the people coming in from foreign countries, and

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Speaker 2: they're not assimilating buck. They are bringing their culture to

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Speaker 2: Germany and making Germany a worse version of itself, which

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Speaker 2: you're not allowed to say.

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Speaker 4: And now the low t technocrats in the EU who

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Speaker 4: have been insisting on these policies, brainwashing the youth on

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Speaker 4: these you know in Sweden, they won't even that. They're

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Speaker 4: trying to avoid always taking demographic data for who's committing,

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Speaker 4: for who's committing the rapes. You're just not the police

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Speaker 4: and know how to talk about this. They're hiding things

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Speaker 2: You know, Buck, we haven't played a clip of our

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Speaker 1: We want to cut some money.

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Speaker 4: I mean she's not she's not smart. Okay, that's that's clear.

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Speaker 1: Well, what do they think is going to happen.

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Speaker 4: He's the literal richest man in the world. He's not

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Speaker 4: It makes this whole You know, they have to protect

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Speaker 2: American astronauts that I believe were supposed to go to

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Speaker 2: space for like two weeks. This sounds like a worse nightmare.

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Speaker 2: And now they've been there for like six months, and

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Speaker 2: we don't have the technology to get them back, and

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Speaker 2: we're asking Elon Musk and SpaceX to do it instead.

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Speaker 1: SpaceX.

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Speaker 2: To Whoope's point, SpaceX is better and safer and more

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Speaker 2: efficient at sending rockets to space than NASA is. They're

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Speaker 2: actually saving us money and doing it at a fraction

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Speaker 2: of the cost that the taxpayer would otherwise be paying for.

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Speaker 4: It's even bigger than that in a sense, Clay, because

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Speaker 4: Elon has started a space economy. There is now a

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Speaker 4: space economy, because he has commercialized sending satellites into space

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Speaker 4: for governments that need his help, for private industry, his.

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Speaker 1: Whole the you know, starlink.

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Speaker 4: Starlink has for the first time made it feasible that

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Speaker 4: we could have global wherever you are, as long as

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Speaker 4: you can see the sky, you could have theoretically high

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Speaker 4: speed internet access. The scale of that business, and by

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Speaker 4: the way, what it will do to all these providers

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Speaker 4: that are still charging way too much money for you know,

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Speaker 4: crappy crappy service. Don't even get me started. I'm always

461
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Speaker 4: worried that it's gonna go out when I'm doing the show.

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Speaker 4: Clay He's created a space economy where one did not

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Speaker 4: exist before. He has rockets that can be caught on

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Speaker 4: re entry by a giant mechanical hand. Basically, I mean,

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Speaker 4: this is wizardry level stuff, but it comes from brilliance,

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Speaker 4: industry and competition, and it's right. And what's what's funny

467
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Speaker 4: about this is the old argument so always, oh, you

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Speaker 4: don't want the government to do it, who's gonna build

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Speaker 4: the roads? Well, now people look at this and they're like,

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Speaker 4: he's better at space, rocket, at space and rockets than NASA.

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Speaker 4: So what else could be done that the government actually

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Speaker 4: does not need to be doing? And I think this

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Speaker 4: is a broader philosophical challenge to the left right now,

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Speaker 4: which is what exactly are what exactly is government in

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Speaker 4: a lot of these cases bringing to the table. There

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Speaker 4: are very few things that we could all agree on

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Speaker 4: the government should be doing. There are a lot of

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Speaker 4: things now that I think people are asking understandably, why.

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Speaker 1: Is the government even doing that?

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Speaker 4: I mean, yes, people get upset about the prospect of

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Speaker 4: doage cutting the Department of Education. Nobody who complains about

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Speaker 4: this knows what Doe even does.

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Speaker 1: They don't even know. Look at what about our schools.

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Speaker 4: The private education doesn't fund your local public school. You imbeciles, right,

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Speaker 4: I mean people who are saying this stuff know nothing.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's true, and that's why I have said. And

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Speaker 2: Elon actually liked my tweet saying this. I happened to

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Speaker 2: see it. I said, look what Elon offered. You got

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Speaker 2: paid until through September. If you had industry, if you

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Speaker 2: had supreme talent, you would want to get paid and

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Speaker 2: go find something new to do.

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Speaker 1: Most people don't want to do that.

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Speaker 4: Well, as I'm telling you, yes, this is because I

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Speaker 4: come I come from the beast. I understand. I've been

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Speaker 4: inside the system. There's there's no appeal like the forever job.

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Speaker 1: To a lot of people. The forever job.

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Speaker 4: Is is you cannot beat that in many people's minds.

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Speaker 1: I have such a different mindset.

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Speaker 2: If you told me that I had to have a

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Speaker 2: job where I got a four percent raise forever but

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Speaker 2: I could never be fired, that sounds like the most

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Speaker 2: miserable existence on the planet to me. I understand some

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Speaker 2: people like that. They want the security, but it but you.

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Speaker 4: Moved to the Caribbean to practice law, you started your

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Speaker 4: own company. You went on and and talked about boobs,

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Speaker 4: like you know, you're like a You're not the average cat.

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Speaker 2: I admittedly I have a higher risk tolerance than most people,

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Speaker 2: but I just I would I would go insane if

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Speaker 2: you told me, hey, you're a government employee, you make

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Speaker 2: three and a half percent more for the rest of

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Speaker 2: your life. Like I could not know.

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Speaker 4: But I'm telling you there there are so many people

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Speaker 4: the same way, Clay that you know cults. One of

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Speaker 4: the reasons cults appeal to people so much is because

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Speaker 4: there are people who really want to be told what

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Speaker 4: to do. Yeah, it's there's a freedom to that, right,

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Speaker 4: there's all tell me I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Give yourself over completely to that.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, and and there's a there's a Federal Civil Service

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Speaker 4: mindset of once you're in the van Clay. When I

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Speaker 4: told I left, I mean, it's kind of complicated because

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Speaker 4: I was the at the Intellience Division, but I was

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Speaker 4: still I was a CIA, So I had to quit

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Speaker 4: Intel Division and.

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Speaker 1: Quit the CIA. You know, I did to do.

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Speaker 4: But when I told the CI that I was leaving

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Speaker 4: to go work for Glenn Beck at the Blaze, you know,

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00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 4: when he started the Blaze. This was at the founding

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Speaker 4: of the Blaze dot com and Glenn's Network and everything else,

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Speaker 4: which obviously he's done great with. They thought I was insane.

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Speaker 4: They were just like, what are you. They're like, you're

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Speaker 4: leaving the You're leaving a cool job and a guaranteed

533
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Speaker 4: six figures for the next, you know, twenty five years

534
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Speaker 4: and great healthcare benefits to go work at some startup

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Speaker 4: you could be fired at. I fired from in six months,

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Speaker 4: and I was like, yes, but we're not the average catman.

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Speaker 4: It's certainly not the average civil servant. That's the that's

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Speaker 4: the point. A lot of them. They wanted just stay

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Speaker 4: with that security forever. And so the notion that that

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Speaker 4: could be taken away, they're saying, there are there are

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Speaker 4: shockwaves going through the whole civil service because of this,

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Speaker 4: just the idea that it could be cut.

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Speaker 1: Their whole percentage.

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Speaker 2: Do you think of federal employees could go and the

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Speaker 2: average American citizen taxpayer would have no idea it even happened.

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Speaker 1: Leave aside the media.

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Speaker 4: I'm honest to god, I would I wouldn't be I

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Speaker 4: wouldn't be worried about the functions of the federal government. Again,

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Speaker 4: by the way, were excluding military here? Okay, yes, I

550
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Speaker 4: know if we had one hundred thousand person army like

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Speaker 4: China would invade. We're excluding the military because I got

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00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: some people like well, I work. Military is its own thing.

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Speaker 4: It's a separate We're talking federal civil service like bureaucrats.

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Speaker 4: Eighty percent. I wouldn't be worried you take eighty Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think you could go full Twitter, so to speak,

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Speaker 4: and cut eighty percent of civil service positions. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I'll tell you, like you know, you try try to

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Speaker 4: try to flag down a civil servant when you have

559
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Speaker 4: when you have a need of them, you know, try

560
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Speaker 4: to get through one of these aid and somehow there's

561
00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 4: nothing but people working there and no one seems to

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Speaker 4: do anything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think certainly half. I would be stunned if

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00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 2: you couldn't fire half, and you would have no idea.

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00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:16,080
Speaker 2: And Elon's example with Twitter, he has doubled the profitability

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Speaker 2: while firing eighty percent of the workers. Yes, think about

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Speaker 2: I mean, think about how much just complete waste there

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Speaker 2: was inside of Twitter.

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Speaker 1: And why would the federal government not be far worse

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Speaker 1: than that.

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Speaker 4: But again, I think what you're getting at when you

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Speaker 4: lay this out claim, when we're talking about the success

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Speaker 4: of these things, it reminds me of Buchali and El Salvador,

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Speaker 4: which is why we talked about that. Hey, it turns

575
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 4: out locking up criminals could completely turn a country around, right, Yes,

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Speaker 4: the success of Elon and Doge is such a threat

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Speaker 4: not just to the system but to this sense of

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Speaker 4: intelligence and sense of security with the way things are

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Speaker 4: that so many people of the left have, like they

580
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 4: never want to admit that. It turns out the government

581
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 4: is this spleurotic bureaucracy with tons of waste and whatever.

582
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Speaker 4: So it's very hard to get them to see what's

583
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Speaker 4: really because the more successful this is, the stronger the

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00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 4: argument's become for why can't we make all aspects of

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Speaker 4: the government more efficient? Why can't we have government that's

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Speaker 4: more efficient and more accountable. There's no good answers to that,

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00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,000
Speaker 4: of course, other than it is what it is. Well

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00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 4: that doesn't work anymore, or at least it's starting to

589
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 4: not work. I don't want to get ahead of ourselves

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Speaker 4: because that I know the swamp. The swamp is deep, friends,

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Speaker 4: it is deep.

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Speaker 2: It is smelly, it's rough, and there's an entire cottage industry.

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Speaker 2: Sixty minutes we played you the raid sixty minutes also

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Speaker 2: had remember they had the the anonymous federal employee like

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Speaker 2: talking about, Oh my goodness, what's gonna happen without this

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Speaker 2: huge federal infrastructure.

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Speaker 4: They're doing all all of that work as well. I

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Speaker 4: think they were a contractor, by the way. I think

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Speaker 4: that came out afterwards that that was a USA contractor,

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Speaker 4: not even a full time employee. But I'll go back

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Speaker 4: in Well, peace might be too strong. There's gonna be

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Speaker 4: a ceasefire in Russia Ukraine here soon based on Trump's

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Speaker 4: overtures and more stuff like that. It's also interesting, but

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Speaker 4: the one of the conversations pieces. We'll talk to Marco

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Speaker 4: Rubio again about this because he obviously is helming up

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Speaker 4: these discussions with Russia. But there seems to be a

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Speaker 4: demand to allow Ukrainian people to vote for who the

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Speaker 4: president should be. Remember, Zolensky has ended all elections while

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Speaker 4: the war is going on. But Zolensky doesn't seem to

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Speaker 4: believe that he would win the election.

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting dynamic here. We're told that we

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Speaker 2: have to stand up for democracy in Ukraine, but Russia saying, okay,

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Speaker 2: let's have an election in Ukraine to see who the

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Speaker 2: next president is. And it doesn't seem like Zolensky is

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Speaker 2: confident he would win, which is why he's not allowing

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Speaker 2: an election to take place. I just think that's a

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Speaker 2: really intriguing aspect. We'll talk about that with Tom Cotton

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Speaker 2: and more up next on Klaimbuck