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Speaker 1: in the stragedyre of normalcy, and it's anything but normal.

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Speaker 1: On a Friday, ladies in Germs, Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 1: NFL Draft, and there is a lot of chatter about

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Speaker 1: What'd you do? What did you do? Last night? You

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Speaker 1: ask you now, last night I watched running Back tape

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Speaker 1: because I had yet to get to Running Back, Steve,

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Speaker 1: not me, No, what did you do? I watched the Sabers.

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Speaker 1: You did. Don't need to tell you something tight game

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Speaker 1: You are people are like going on anyway I watch them.

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Speaker 1: You are the fall the time you are the furthest

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Speaker 1: thing from a fair Weather fan. That's it right there.

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Speaker 1: You're loyalty when they because they are going to turn

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Speaker 1: I am watching. And listen. You even had your cardboard

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Speaker 1: cutout in the keypas I did. Here's the thing about

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Speaker 1: last night. This is totally me. See if you can relate.

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Speaker 1: So it's a two and a half hour game whatever,

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Speaker 1: seven and nine, three, whatever it is, may give or

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Speaker 1: of happenstance. I didn't see a single of the five

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Speaker 1: row goals in that game by either team. Here you

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Speaker 1: been this season. You would think the hockey gods would

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Speaker 1: shine brightly on one Steve Tasker. No, not the case. No, Instead,

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Speaker 1: they trigger your dog to want to go out to

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now, I'm maybe it says something

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Speaker 1: I'm I am all about this hockey team right now. Okay,

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Speaker 1: the playoffs? Tell me why? Why? Why are you so wired?

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Speaker 1: I even I'm no, I am a willing participant. I

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Speaker 1: where this the Bills organization was for a long time.

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Speaker 1: And and if you're gonna be a fan of a team,

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Speaker 1: This is the Bill's foot. You know, he just kind

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Speaker 1: get you know that the hoops they make you jump through, right,

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Speaker 1: what it's like to play for the Jets. Now, I

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Speaker 1: think on the whole he probably got positive feedback. And

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Speaker 1: the reason I say that is because Sanchez went to

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Speaker 1: two AFC title games with the Jets under Rex Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Chad Pennington had a good deal of success and went

429
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Speaker 1: to the playoffs under herm Edwards. Josh McCown maybe a

430
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Speaker 1: little bit different description of how things went there, But

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Speaker 1: I don't blame him. You see all the scouting departments

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Speaker 1: in NFL clubs doing their due diligence. He knows there's

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Speaker 1: a good chance he's probably going to the Jets at

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Speaker 1: pick two on Thursday night, so why not get a

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Speaker 1: sense so what you're in for. It's a great idea.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know how accurate a description those guys

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Speaker 1: can provide outside of maybe what the fan base is like,

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Speaker 1: what the media is like. That you can probably get

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Speaker 1: a good sense from those guys on but as far

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Speaker 1: as how the organization is run and all of that stuff,

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Speaker 1: it's changed over and turned over so much that I

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Speaker 1: don't think he's going to get a feel for the

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Speaker 1: daily operation at all. And it's a brand new head

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Speaker 1: coach now, and Robert salis so new staff and that

445
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Speaker 1: whole thing, and even the GM is different from heck

446
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Speaker 1: when Sam Darnold, you know, he saw the GM change

447
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Speaker 1: in his time there. Think about it though, I mean,

448
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Speaker 1: it would be like a guy like Josh Allen talking

449
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Speaker 1: to Jim Kelly, Hey, what's it like? What am I doing?

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Speaker 1: What am I getting into here? And it'd be more

451
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Speaker 1: about the city and the fan base, and also you're

452
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Speaker 1: right in New York, it's about the media and how

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Speaker 1: you handle it and what kind of pressures they're going

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Speaker 1: to put on and some of the dues and don'ts

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Speaker 1: that you need to think about when you get in there.

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Speaker 1: And that's I think it's a really smart move on

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson's part. How much it helps, who knows, but

458
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Speaker 1: it certainly probably didn't hurt, and I think it's a

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Speaker 1: smart move by him, and it shows him wherever. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't mean Sam Darnold didn't do the exact same thing.

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Speaker 1: We didn't hear about it, but very smart move by

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Speaker 1: Zach Wilson to kind of shoot, you know, just law

463
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Speaker 1: about a shout out to you three guys who went

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Speaker 1: through the exact same thing he's going to be going through.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of quarterbacks, we've all been talking about the anticipated

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Speaker 1: Josh Allen contract extension somewhere within the next calendar year.

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Speaker 1: Don't know when, but as Brandon being said, when the

468
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Speaker 1: time is right, it'll happen, and it's probably more likely

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Speaker 1: to happen next year. The deadline for the fifth year

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Speaker 1: option is May third, and one of his fellow AT

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Speaker 1: classmates has already been given the fifth year option. That

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Speaker 1: would be Baker Mayfield, in addition to fellow first round

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Denzel Ward, who was the fourth pick in

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Speaker 1: the draft if I remember right, Baker Mayfield one, Denzel

475
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Speaker 1: Ward four in that draft that year. Baker Mayfield also

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Speaker 1: is his cap. His guaranteed numbers eighteen points something. He

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Speaker 1: has not made a probol. He has not made a

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl Josh's twenty three something because he did he

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Speaker 1: and Tremaine at this and just so we know, fifth

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Speaker 1: year options used to be guaranteed for injury only in

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Speaker 1: the previous CBA. Now in the new CBA they are

482
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Speaker 1: fully guaranteed automatic, so I mean, short of doing a

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Speaker 1: contract extension, tearing it up and doing something new. But

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Speaker 1: so Baker Mayfield the first member of the twenty eighteen

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Speaker 1: quarterback class to get a fifth year option from his

486
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Speaker 1: respective club, and the others Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen probably

487
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Speaker 1: the most likely to follow here because it seems with

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Speaker 1: the restrictive cap this year, no firm knowledge on what

489
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Speaker 1: the cap is going to look like next year and

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Speaker 1: how much it's going to go up, it probably behooves

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Speaker 1: the clubs to bide their time, get the get the

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Speaker 1: cost control contract down for year five twenty twenty two now,

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Speaker 1: and then see where things fall when the new cap

494
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Speaker 1: is released, you know, sometime at the end of the season.

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Speaker 1: That's probably the best way to go. Yeah, I mean,

496
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Speaker 1: knowledge is power, and that's you know, and right now

497
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Speaker 1: they don't have all the knowledge, they don't have any

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Speaker 1: knowledge of what they really like to do. Certainly they

499
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Speaker 1: got the numbers in their head, but they need to

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Speaker 1: structure in such a way as that they can maximize

501
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Speaker 1: their ability to pay other people on the roster. That's

502
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Speaker 1: basically what it is and Mahomes the Mahomes deal five

503
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars, ten year contract, but the way that

504
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 1: it's structured is really unique, and it gives the Chiefs

505
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Speaker 1: a chance to get like three, three or four years

506
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 1: under their belt with Mahomes as their quarterback before they

507
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: really have to start upping the andy. And that's a

508
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 1: really smart move by the Chiefs in that they'll be

509
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Speaker 1: able to mitigate the roster around Mahomes to stay competitive.

510
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Speaker 1: And then when the cap has risen by you knows,

511
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,920
Speaker 1: as you say, eight or ten percent year over year,

512
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: they're going to be in a better position where that

513
00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: kind of chunk of money isn't going to take a

514
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 1: big hit of the salary cap. Now you can say

515
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Speaker 1: you want to do the same thing with Josh. Josh

516
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: has to be okay with that. Mahomes isn't gonna get

517
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Speaker 1: a lot. Now, he's guaranteed a ton, but he's not

518
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Speaker 1: going to get the bulk of it for a while.

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Speaker 1: But you know, these guys are in there a giant

520
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: signing bonus. Right, they're early. They're in their early twenties

521
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: as well, so it's not like they're not going to

522
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Speaker 1: have time to spend it. Right, We have to break here,

523
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 1: but we do want to lay out what we have

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Speaker 1: for you on today's show. As always every Friday, the

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Speaker 1: OBL Friday Fan mail Bag is open for you to

526
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 1: sit questions. Anything you need to know about the draft,

527
00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 1: the bills, the roster, the coaching staff. We're here for

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Speaker 1: you on that. Coming up in the second hour the show,

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Speaker 1: about a half hour from now from NFL Films, Greg

530
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: Cosell as we go over his top ten prospects in

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Speaker 1: the draft class. And then in the third hour of

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Speaker 1: our show, a local kid who's gonna hear his name called,

533
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Speaker 1: probably somewhere on day three you be running back Jared Patterson,

534
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,920
Speaker 1: who took the college football world by storm last fall.

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Speaker 1: He will join us in the third hour the show,

536
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Speaker 1: Jared Patterson joining us here on one Bills Live. But

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Speaker 1: coming up next is the latest installment of Tasker's Teammate.

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Speaker 1: Can Steve guess from the clues we give him on

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Speaker 1: which former teammate we are describing. We'll find out next

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Speaker 1: here on One Bills Live presented by Kalaida Health. It's

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Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Get back to One Bills Live, Chris Brown,

542
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Would you here on an obl fan mail

543
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:06,920
Speaker 1: bad Friday? You got a question for us? Send it

544
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,240
Speaker 1: in at one Bills Live on Twitter. But it is

545
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: time now for the latest installment of Taskers Teammates, brought

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Speaker 1: to you by Wegman's Meals to Go Delicious Meals Delivered

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Speaker 1: download the Wegman's app. Today, Steve has been on a

548
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:28,000
Speaker 1: roll of late got last week's in one guess. One

549
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: clue is all it took for Steve. So we tried

550
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 1: not to give too much of the too much of

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00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: the farm away this time. So here is well, I

552
00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: think it's reasonable. Here is clue number one. Steve all

553
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:47,400
Speaker 1: Right a California native. I played quarterback and safety as

554
00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: a high school football player, two positions I did not

555
00:29:51,440 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: play again once I got to college. Now that's not

556
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: an easy transition when you think about it, because you

557
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:11,960
Speaker 1: know safety, quarterback and safety. I will say, James Lofton,

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Speaker 1: Son of a Gun, You're right what you are correct?

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Speaker 1: It is James Lofton On the first guess, Yes, unstoppable. Dang,

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Speaker 1: I had so many good clues. Unstoppable. Okay, Well, James

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Speaker 1: is joining us on the line right now, so we

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Speaker 1: will welcome him in at this time. One g one

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Speaker 1: say and I got it, James. I am on a roll.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being here. He didn't get it right?

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Speaker 1: Why not? And the reason that he didn't get it

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Speaker 1: right is I actually did play safety in college. You did? Okay,

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Speaker 1: didn't list it on college statistics? Yeah, all right? Where

568
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: did you play? It? Had an interception in the one

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Speaker 1: play that I played? What was it? Wait? Wait? Wait?

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Speaker 1: Is that like a hail Mary? At the end of

571
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: the game? I intercepted Jack Thompson there throwing some moan,

572
00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: the first round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals. Wow. All

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Speaker 1: that all that tells you is I played out of

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Speaker 1: position for sixteen years in the NFL. Yeah. You probably

575
00:31:20,760 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: would have been a Yeah, you'd have been a better

576
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Speaker 1: You might have been a Hall of Fame safety. You

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00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,040
Speaker 1: listen to you. How are you doing, man? You look great?

578
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 1: What are you up to? What are you doing these days?

579
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,720
Speaker 1: I rode my bike for an hour this morning so

580
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: that I could prepare for this show. Other than that,

581
00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: just enjoying the off season. Yeah, you know, CBS comes

582
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 1: up in the fall, so I have an off season,

583
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Speaker 1: which I've had for the last forty one years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I remember those days, do you do? You know who

585
00:31:52,040 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: you're going to be in the in the booth with.

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Speaker 1: I believe it's still gonna be Andrew Catalan. You know, Andrew,

587
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: your booth mate just climbed up the golf ladder. I

588
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: know when Jim Nance is not doing the eighteenth Tower,

589
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 1: it will be Andrew Catalan. So I called him this morning.

590
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: I said, they paired you with Tasker, Burline and me

591
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,000
Speaker 1: and none of us could hold you back. We did

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Speaker 1: our best, Yeah, Andrew, Yeah, Andrew and I do the

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Speaker 1: preseason games on television here in Buffalo to have done

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Speaker 1: it for a long time, and I worked. I did

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Speaker 1: his first game. You know this. I did Andrew's first

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Speaker 1: game as a when they were giving him a try

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Speaker 1: out of screen test. Right. So one of our guys,

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Speaker 1: I think was Bill mcintee. Bill mcintee couldn't make it

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00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 1: to the game or something came up and they said,

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Speaker 1: well we got this kid from Albany, Andrew Catalan. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna give him a shot. See what he says, And

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00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: we were doing the rehearsal for the on camera before

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Speaker 1: the game and he was the microphone. Oh my guys,

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00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: the microphone was like, oh, he couldn't he could not

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Speaker 1: hold us. He was so nervous. I looked, I go,

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00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 1: you all right, he goes, because I have not slept

607
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 1: at all since last night because he couldn't see. But

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00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: he killed it. He did a really good jo. Obviously

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00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,320
Speaker 1: he did well. He's they hired him the next year.

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00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,560
Speaker 1: I worked with him there. He's great. Yeah, So I'm glad,

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00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 1: you guys are a great team. So a great team.

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Speaker 1: You know. I'm looking at this, you know, guess your

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Speaker 1: teammates thing and the thing that I I that struck me.

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Speaker 1: I kind of looked at it last night when I

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00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: got there in nineteen eighty nine. See, it's it's easy

616
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Speaker 1: to look back in twenty twenty and say, look at

617
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Speaker 1: all the great players at the Buffalo Bill's had, but

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Speaker 1: eighty nine in eighty eight, the year before I got there,

619
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Speaker 1: was really the beginning. Yeah, I mean Steve Tasker, you

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Speaker 1: didn't spell his name with all capitol letters at the time.

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Speaker 1: Andre Reid was still from Cootstown, right, don Beebe was

622
00:33:54,160 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 1: a rookie. Thurman Thomas was in his second year. So

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Speaker 1: this team was just starting to develop and gel to

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00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 1: the you know, the heights that they were gonna attain

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00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,759
Speaker 1: in the near future. I'll say this, I tell people

626
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 1: this a lot. When you came and it was like

627
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Speaker 1: the last month of nineteen eighty nine. Nick Nicklaus was there,

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Speaker 1: who you know. You know I had a lot of

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00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: love and respect for Nick. I mean I owe a

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Speaker 1: lot to Nick. He was one of the all time

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Speaker 1: great coaches I ever had. He and you knew him

632
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,120
Speaker 1: from Oakland. He brought you in. You came in the

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Speaker 1: last month of nineteen eighty nine and give people an

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Speaker 1: insight as to what you saw when you came in

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver room, in the locker room. What was

636
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:40,520
Speaker 1: that team like and what was it missing or maybe

637
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: what you notice about it when you first got there. Well,

638
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: the way that I got there is you guys were

639
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:53,640
Speaker 1: playing Somebody on Monday night and Chris Burkett and Jim

640
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,399
Speaker 1: Kelllly got into an argument on the sideline, and I said,

641
00:34:57,440 --> 00:34:59,479
Speaker 1: that's not a good look. It was a home game.

642
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: Ye probably dropped that game and Chris Broquett was released

643
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: and I came in for a trial. So when I

644
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 1: came in for a trial, since I still have a

645
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: little wrist band that I wrote the plays down on

646
00:35:16,160 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 1: and it's right near my bed, and it's right there

647
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:22,879
Speaker 1: in the dresser in the drawer, right next to my bed.

648
00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: So it's kind of a reminder kind of humble beginnings

649
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: going back to Buffalo. Um, I don't know if the

650
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:36,000
Speaker 1: team was it was just gonna be. And all the

651
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: talent the team had, both offensively, defensively and on special teams.

652
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: You know, we had maybe one the best for the ball,

653
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:51,759
Speaker 1: Mark Pike. I love you man, Um James, I was

654
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: I was looking, you know, back to try to find

655
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: some clues that Steve might not be completely familiar with.

656
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: And you know, I came across the act that as

657
00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:04,800
Speaker 1: a senior at Stanford, you won the NCAA long jump

658
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 1: title with a leap of twenty six and eleven and

659
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,120
Speaker 1: three quarter inches. Did you know he was a long jumper.

660
00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: I didn't know he's a long jumper. I knew he's

661
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,120
Speaker 1: a runner. Yeah, I knew he's a runner. Was that

662
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: your was that your personal best? Twenty six eleven and

663
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:22,879
Speaker 1: three quarters? James? Well, what's crazy is the next week

664
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:29,319
Speaker 1: at the National Championships for everybody, which is now that

665
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 1: it used to be there, I jumped twenty seven. His

666
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: jump was win dated, so I ended up really with

667
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: the longest jump in the world that year at twenty

668
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:50,200
Speaker 1: seven even yeah, because um, because Bob Beeman was still

669
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: the world record holder at that time with that ridiculous

670
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: jump of twenty nine and nine two and then the

671
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,239
Speaker 1: next best jump ever at the time in seven five

672
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: and a quarter. Yeah, right, all right, so you were

673
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,240
Speaker 1: right there, even though it was absolutely that Bob Beaman

674
00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:10,320
Speaker 1: jump was just yeah, that's called that's called get getting

675
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: it just right on a good day. Yeah. And that

676
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:17,279
Speaker 1: and the sixty eight Olympics, Yeah, the Bob Beaman jump

677
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,200
Speaker 1: happened at the same time. Was two to meet him

678
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: and the acting was in my home once. I'm just

679
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:28,959
Speaker 1: looking at him. Yeah, it's unbelievable. At the same time

680
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 1: Bob Beaman ran that twenty nine feet two inches. There

681
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: were two and I can't remember what they were, and

682
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, but there were two other world records that

683
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,640
Speaker 1: were beamon esque at that sixty eight Olympics on the

684
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: same day, at the same track, in the same time,

685
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: the same session do you know what events one was like,

686
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,160
Speaker 1: I don't know whether it was the pole vault or whatever,

687
00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: but there were three world records set in quick succession

688
00:37:49,120 --> 00:37:52,279
Speaker 1: that were that were off the charts. Um Beamon was

689
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,880
Speaker 1: the most noteworthy. I wonder if he jumped that far

690
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: because he was in thinner air. You think he just

691
00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: flew further because that city altitude not to leave. They

692
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,960
Speaker 1: have looked at that, and you know, with all the

693
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 1: biometrics and all that, and he had set the world

694
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,799
Speaker 1: indoor record earlier, so they knew that. The guys knew

695
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: that he was capable of it. Everybody thought that he

696
00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:16,800
Speaker 1: might be the first person to jump twenty eight feet,

697
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 1: but nobody thought you'd go directly from the world record

698
00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: at a time was twenty seventy four to twenty nine two.

699
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 1: Good lord, I mean that's two feet. That's almost twenty

700
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 1: guys throws in a season, exactly, exactly. That's just stupid.

701
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 1: That's just a stupid jump. Um, that's really cool. Uh,

702
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:40,359
Speaker 1: what what was it? I want? You know, we got

703
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: the draft coming up here, James, and obviously you didn't

704
00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:45,440
Speaker 1: wait very long to hear your name called in the

705
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:50,040
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy eight draft. What do you remember about all

706
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 1: of the run up to the draft? And you know,

707
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:55,160
Speaker 1: you see the guys these days, maybe not this year

708
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:59,080
Speaker 1: with no combine, but these guys like they're exhausted being

709
00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,840
Speaker 1: on the draft circuit, going to workouts and going to

710
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: the combine and all of this stuff. What was the

711
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 1: process like back then? And were you equally mentally and

712
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 1: physically drained by the time you got to the draft? Well,

713
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 1: there was no process number one. Yeah. Remember, the draft

714
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: was not televised, believe it or not. At the time.

715
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: You used to have a television that you'd have to

716
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: say that again, say that again. You have a television

717
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: for what you had to walk to the television to

718
00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: change the channel. Oh yeah, that's right. There were no

719
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:37,720
Speaker 1: remote controls, Eve, that's right, that's right. Right. So leading

720
00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: up to the draft and May second, I found that

721
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,799
Speaker 1: out when somebody sent me a T shirt that said

722
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 1: you became a Green Bay Packer on May second. And

723
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 1: the draft really lasted for how many days? Then? One day?

724
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 1: Twelve runs? Yeah, one day? Oh man, It wasn't a

725
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: four day event like it is now. It wasn't televised.

726
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,959
Speaker 1: I got a call from the Los Angeles Rams maybe

727
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: about fifteen minutes before the draft, they were checking my

728
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:14,279
Speaker 1: phone number at my apartment. And then five minutes ten

729
00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:18,239
Speaker 1: minutes into the draft, Carol Edwin from the Green Bay

730
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: Packers called me and asked me cut a hole for

731
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: bart Star. Right, And I was about as nerves and

732
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 1: I got on the phone with bart Star, babbled a

733
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 1: couple of words, got off the phone, and then went

734
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:35,399
Speaker 1: to my class and I went to track practice. Yeah,

735
00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: fancy suit. No walking across the stage to shake the

736
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,719
Speaker 1: commission because there was no stage to be at. Yeah,

737
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: and you know what else is different? James, you just

738
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 1: said after you got the call that you became a

739
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:52,120
Speaker 1: Green Bay Packer. You said you went to track practice.

740
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: I can't imagine any NFL team letting some guy, especially

741
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: a receiver, go participate on the track team after you

742
00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 1: are their property. They don't want you a stoink and

743
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: a hamstring. There's no way they'd let you do that nowadays.

744
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:10,919
Speaker 1: You know what, that's about as crazy as a guy

745
00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:19,279
Speaker 1: finishing his football eligibility and going out for the rugby team. Yeah,

746
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: that guilty. Yeah, I'm raising I got my hand raised.

747
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:26,360
Speaker 1: That was that was me? Yeah, I was that I

748
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,360
Speaker 1: would listen, it's a little different. It's the risk is

749
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: different when you're the first, you know, first fifteen guy,

750
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: first five guys, pick, it's different when you're two hundred

751
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 1: and twenty six. Overall, Yeah, the risk is not quite

752
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 1: commensurate with that, you know. So I'm good, all right? Yeah, well, James,

753
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 1: thanks for giving us some time today. Was h I'm

754
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:49,799
Speaker 1: glad Steve guests you early so he wasn't embarrassed because

755
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:51,839
Speaker 1: I know you two guys are tight, James Love. Did

756
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: I play with him? Yeah, you know you would have.

757
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,879
Speaker 1: You would have had him if you had told him

758
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: that I played wide receiver in safety. Yeah, that would

759
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: have been a little drifting. Yeah, No, I would have

760
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: gotten it because you know what I would have done.

761
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 1: I would have extrapolated to one of your sons who

762
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:09,839
Speaker 1: played safety for Stanford, and I would have said, yeah,

763
00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 1: that's wow. You gotta be James. Yeah, you're full of it, Steve.

764
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: I would have I'm not buying that, all right, James,

765
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. We appreciate it. Good to see again.

766
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 1: Take care you guys. All right, that is a Hall

767
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,400
Speaker 1: of Famer. James lofton the latest Tasker's teammate and Steve

768
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 1: has now gone two in a row guessing on the

769
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: first clue. I gotta stop giving you California natives. That's

770
00:42:34,360 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: what I gotta stop doing. And Marvcus Patton last week,

771
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: and yeah, James Lofton this week. Yeah that's I don't know.

772
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,719
Speaker 1: I got to pick another home state here apparently. Yeah,

773
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 1: I gotta gotta find a former. I know we've had

774
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:49,640
Speaker 1: him before. I know we've had him before, but he

775
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 1: didn't come on that we had him and we couldn't

776
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: reach him. Mark Pike, he texted me last night. So

777
00:42:54,600 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I wonder because they can get him

778
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 1: this time, they're gonna go back to Mark Pike. So

779
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: it's almost gonna guess Mark pikee he mentioned Mark Pike. Yeah,

780
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 1: on the it's supernatural how this tasker's teammate thing works sometimes. Yeah,

781
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: it's like a teammate esp. Yeah, it really is extrasensory perception.

782
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: But you were channeling James Lofton effectively there. I almost didn't.

783
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: I almost didn't put on there a California native because

784
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,680
Speaker 1: I was like, ah, he knows he's from California. And

785
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: I stuck it in there anyway because I was feeling

786
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,000
Speaker 1: chaired at it, and I ended up paying for it.

787
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:28,560
Speaker 1: Got it all right? That's Tasker's teammate. We take a

788
00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: break here. We're only about twelve minutes away from one

789
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: Greg co Cell from NFL Films, as he's gonna give

790
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: us his list of top ten prospects in the entire

791
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,840
Speaker 1: draft class, and the list may surprise you. We'll have

792
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,960
Speaker 1: that coming up shortly here on one Bill's Line, presented

793
00:43:43,960 --> 00:44:01,760
Speaker 1: by claud of Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome Steve Tasker,

794
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: Chris Brown here with you on a Friday where the

795
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: obil Fan Friday mail bag is open. And I should

796
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:15,359
Speaker 1: also mention that not only will we go over Greg

797
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:19,720
Speaker 1: Cosell's top ten rated prospects from this year's draft class,

798
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:22,920
Speaker 1: but I'm also going to bounce off of him some

799
00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: of the prospects I feel could be fits for the Bills,

800
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 1: not necessarily a pick thirty, but also elsewhere in the draft.

801
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 1: And I'm eager to go over those names that I

802
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: have on my list for him. I am going to

803
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: tell you, though, Steve, of the name, I have Cosell's

804
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,680
Speaker 1: top ten prospects list in front of me. There are

805
00:44:43,719 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: some surprises on here, including one guy I didn't even

806
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: expect to see on the top ten list who is

807
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 1: an offensive tackle, and we'll we'll get to that list

808
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: here as I am going to have some questions for

809
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:01,959
Speaker 1: him about Christian Darisaw. I mean, he's probably a top

810
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:08,239
Speaker 1: twenty pick, but nine overall that surprised me. Yeah, it is,

811
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 1: and that it we continue to, you know, go through

812
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: the draft process and get all these you know, you

813
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: just wonder who is going to be available, and then

814
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 1: there's all the speculation, even or boy Joe Buscallia in

815
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,399
Speaker 1: the Athletic Final Draft mock draft, he's got the Bills

816
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: trading all the way up to twenty four and then

817
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:31,239
Speaker 1: taking an edge guy. Yeah, you know, so who's available

818
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: and who other people think are top players and what

819
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 1: teams ahead of you need, all that stuff gets thrown

820
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,239
Speaker 1: into this pot and we're still trying to distill it.

821
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: We're not gonna know, and he get all the way

822
00:45:41,480 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: to number. Usually the draft starts a little sooner than

823
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 1: the third pick. And I say that because most everybody

824
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: believes they know who the first two picks are, so

825
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:54,680
Speaker 1: the third pick is the only one there's a little

826
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: bit of doubt about. And even so everybody knows which

827
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: position it's gonna be, So you kind of know the

828
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: three guys at the top of the last draft or

829
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: quarterbacks perhaps probably yeah, without question, I think, But there

830
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 1: are also three guys who are not quarterbacks who are

831
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:13,560
Speaker 1: kind of in the same bucket as a Penney Sewell.

832
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: It's Kyle Pitts and this Jamar Chase wide receiver, tight end,

833
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: offensive tackle. They're all top guys and those so those,

834
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 1: you know, those guys are in there somewhere right up

835
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: at the top two. Who's going to be the next guy?

836
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,000
Speaker 1: You know? I know we've talked a lot about Atlanta

837
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: being a pivot point in the draft at four, and

838
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:39,480
Speaker 1: we've discussed that on this show a lot. I'm now wondering.

839
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: I'm kind of I was pretty convinced as to what

840
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: I thought Cincinnati was going to do at five. I

841
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: thought they were just going to take an offensive tackle.

842
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 1: Done deal, Lucille, Good to go, you know, whether it's

843
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: you know Sewell there from Oregon. But you know, in

844
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: going over their roster again, they have Jonah Williams, who

845
00:46:58,280 --> 00:47:01,840
Speaker 1: is a former first round pick coming off of injury,

846
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna line up at tackle, and they got Riley reef

847
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:10,160
Speaker 1: in free agency, so they arguably have two starting offensive

848
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 1: tackles that can go out there and protect Joe Burrow. Um,

849
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:18,360
Speaker 1: I don't. Yeah, I there's a part of me that wonders,

850
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: you know, does Cincinnati go for a shiny toy at

851
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 1: five turn and turn the draft on its head, either

852
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,400
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase or Kyle Pits. Yeah, and then that puts

853
00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: Miami in a situation where it's like, oh man, we

854
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: thought we were gonna get Pits or Chase, and now

855
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,680
Speaker 1: Atlanta and Cincinnati just took them right, you know, And

856
00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:41,719
Speaker 1: now do they would they feel like they're settling for

857
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 1: Davante Smith or's somebody else I don't know, or Jalen Wattle. Right,

858
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:52,080
Speaker 1: So I'm really picks four and five hold a lot

859
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 1: of intrigue for me. Atlanta obviously, you know, coming after

860
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks, are they going to take a quarterback too

861
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: or are they going to Atlanta's quarterback is thirty six

862
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 1: years old. Yes, but their new head coach, Arthur Smith

863
00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,359
Speaker 1: has gone on record saying I'm all I'm all in

864
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: with Matt Ryan, and I think he can be a

865
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:15,879
Speaker 1: really good quarterback for us for at least the next

866
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 1: two seasons. I was like, oh, maybe they are taking

867
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:21,920
Speaker 1: a fine. That's fine. Let's not forget what Arthur Smith

868
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 1: has to do as a first year quarterback or first

869
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 1: year head coach, first time head coach. Yeah, he's got

870
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,759
Speaker 1: to win, and that's what he wants today. He wants

871
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:32,760
Speaker 1: to win right away. I got Matt Ryan as a quarterback.

872
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 1: Let's help him win games for us. Let's win some games.

873
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 1: Get out of the bike. I could see them taking

874
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: a shiny new toy there, because you know how it is.

875
00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,880
Speaker 1: You get in there as a fresh first time head coach.

876
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,160
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, you take him deep in the playoffs.

877
00:48:46,600 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: The next three years, it's like, okay, well we can

878
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 1: get we can. The guy knows what he's doing. We

879
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: give him the players, right. That gives you some time.

880
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: Think about Kyle Shanahan, who was the next best thing

881
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,759
Speaker 1: when he got the job in San Francisco. They get

882
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 1: to the super Bowl, but they've had three out of

883
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 1: four losing seasons, so that one season kind of extends

884
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,360
Speaker 1: the calendar and gives you some slack so that you

885
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: can get it together. Something bad happens out and last

886
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 1: year that had twenty guys hurt and couldn't play. But nevertheless,

887
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: you start to talking about Art Smith in Atlanta, a

888
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: new young head coach like Sean McDermott. Yeah, he got

889
00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: to the playoffs when this team hadn't gone to the

890
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: playoffs forever. He comes in, guts the roster and still

891
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 1: goes to the playoffs. That that buys you some slack,

892
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: And that's what Art Smith and all these young head

893
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: coaches kind of want to do. I think, get off

894
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: to a fast start if they've got but I think

895
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:43,440
Speaker 1: he takes a matchup Nightmare, probably takes Pitts. So now

896
00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 1: you've got Ridley, Jones and Pits along with Hayden Hurst

897
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,920
Speaker 1: who's a pretty good tight end as well. So I

898
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 1: got double tights and Ridley and Jones outside I mean,

899
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: man alive. That's a problem. And then you go a

900
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 1: step further to Cincinnati, who just got you know, rid

901
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: of aj Green, who s hind in Arizona, and you've

902
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,560
Speaker 1: got You've got t Higgins their first round pick last year,

903
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:07,320
Speaker 1: one of the best slot guys in the league in

904
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 1: tyler board. And then you put Jamar Chase on the

905
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:14,160
Speaker 1: other side, who played with Joe Burrow at LSU. Hmm.

906
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,760
Speaker 1: You gotta like that's tempting. You gotta like that's tempting.

907
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. We have to take a break

908
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 1: because your rank Costell is coming up next. Here on

909
00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kali to help, It's Buffalo

910
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 1: Bills Radio at a Steve tester who has been all

911
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: over the fields. Kind of unique. He was kind of

912
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,480
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

913
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:58,000
Speaker 1: We're not even in the straded deer of normalcy. Ah,

914
00:50:58,000 --> 00:51:00,640
Speaker 1: we're number two. On a Friday, One Bills Live, Chris Brown,

915
00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you talking NFL Draft and here to

916
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 1: do that with US NFL Film Senior producer Greg co Sell,

917
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:10,120
Speaker 1: who has just dropped the visine and his eyeballs. He

918
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:14,160
Speaker 1: is ready to go after grinding some more tape this

919
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:17,120
Speaker 1: morning and this afternoon. Greg, how you're doing. We're only

920
00:51:17,120 --> 00:51:19,160
Speaker 1: six days away. You're gonna fit everybody in that you

921
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:21,480
Speaker 1: want to get done between now and then. No, I'm not,

922
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 1: and that you know that really bothers me, Chris and

923
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 1: and it you know it really does, because I'm just

924
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:28,680
Speaker 1: not going to get everybody done and the way I

925
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: want to. I mean, you can always watch twenty plays

926
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: of a guy. But that's not the way I do it,

927
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 1: as you guys know, So this is really aggravating Mail.

928
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:38,880
Speaker 1: I'm getting into that mode where I'm just I'm just bothered.

929
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: You know, the days are getting short. I think we

930
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,920
Speaker 1: call this film angst for people like Greg. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

931
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: you need to get on it because if how am

932
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 1: I going to exploit your knowledge? How am I going

933
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: to exploit your knowledge? If i'm you know, if you're

934
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,400
Speaker 1: not getting it done here? I mean, Steve, how are

935
00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:55,719
Speaker 1: you going to do your work? If I don't think

936
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: that's done? That's right, that's right. How am I going

937
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,680
Speaker 1: to us to formula I'm going to formulate my opinion

938
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: unless you do your work? Okay, Hey, I got a question,

939
00:52:05,719 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: serious question. Yeah. You know the way tight ends now

940
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,919
Speaker 1: are used in the NFL, they won really athletic guys, right, right?

941
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 1: Do you think that Keith mckeller was sort of ahead

942
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,960
Speaker 1: of his time in that if he was a guy

943
00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:23,959
Speaker 1: coming out of college now, would he be viewed that way? Yes?

944
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: I think he would have been a much hotter prospect

945
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 1: now than he was then. His problem then was he

946
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:30,600
Speaker 1: wasn't as strong as the run game in the run

947
00:52:30,640 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: game as players arc and teams didn't throw it as much,

948
00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: and the running game was more more of a staple,

949
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:40,200
Speaker 1: and there was less creativity offensively because they they wouldn't

950
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:42,440
Speaker 1: split him out all that often. They didn't do that

951
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,239
Speaker 1: with tight ends back then. They didn't. They didn't use

952
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: matchups like that. You know. Back then a lot of

953
00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: guys were still running systems instead of maximizing talent. And

954
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: so yeah, and Keith, to his credit, he was his

955
00:52:56,760 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 1: ability was the impetus behind that offense changing and evolving

956
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 1: the way it did so fast into this into the

957
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: K gun. So yeah, he would have been he would

958
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,000
Speaker 1: have been a much different prospect in twenty twenty one

959
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: than he was in nineteen eighty whenever we got in

960
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 1: eighty six, I guess eighty eight, Yeah, because the run

961
00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:16,320
Speaker 1: game stuff wouldn't have been seen as anywhere near as important,

962
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: that's right, as it was then. Yeah, that's right. Fascinating. Um,

963
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: we know Greg that you put together what you feel

964
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:29,359
Speaker 1: are your top prospects in the entire draft class. Some Well, yeah,

965
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 1: that's what I did. That's what I did the other day, Chris.

966
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 1: They might be ten different guys now I have no, no,

967
00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 1: but I will say this, of the top ten that

968
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,360
Speaker 1: I saw, I guess the name that surprised me the

969
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:45,000
Speaker 1: most was that you had Dara Saw that high. I

970
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,200
Speaker 1: think most people would agree he's probably a top twenty

971
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:51,080
Speaker 1: pick for sure, but seeing him on your top ten

972
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: list that that raised my eyebrows a little bit. What

973
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: what is so appealing to you about Darrisaw? You know,

974
00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:03,560
Speaker 1: I don't fancy myself Chris as an offensive line guru,

975
00:54:03,640 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: so I don't want to come across that way for

976
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: the offensive line guys who were listening. I just really

977
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:12,840
Speaker 1: really liked his tape. I thought that he has everything

978
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: you look for in a quality starting left tackle. He's

979
00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 1: got size, length, athleticism, mobility, strength. I just thought that

980
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: he was the kind of guy that you look at

981
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 1: at left tackle and say that's what I want. I mean,

982
00:54:27,800 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 1: he's six five three twenty two plus thirty four inch

983
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:34,360
Speaker 1: arms for those who really look at that as important.

984
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:38,040
Speaker 1: I thought he had really good balance in body control,

985
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 1: and I always think that's really important because even on

986
00:54:41,239 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: the outside, you're not always going to look pretty. And

987
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:46,920
Speaker 1: I think when you see a guy that has very

988
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,840
Speaker 1: good balance in body control and can play with a

989
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:53,320
Speaker 1: firm base that that to me seems to be really important.

990
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,720
Speaker 1: So I really liked him both as a run blocker

991
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960
Speaker 1: and as a past protector, and I think he's a

992
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 1: really good prospect. I like him because he seems nimble

993
00:55:02,000 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 1: and able to sort through bodies. There's so many offensive linemen.

994
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:06,920
Speaker 1: You give him a guy and he kind of has

995
00:55:06,920 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 1: to He kind of gets lost after he's supposed to,

996
00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:12,319
Speaker 1: you know, help the guard. Then move up. Guys get

997
00:55:12,360 --> 00:55:14,840
Speaker 1: lost moving up, they move up to space. He seems

998
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:18,080
Speaker 1: to really sort through and find somebody to put a

999
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: hat on. I think that's a real I don't know,

1000
00:55:20,280 --> 00:55:22,840
Speaker 1: maybe an overlooked trade. For me, it's it's that's what

1001
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,720
Speaker 1: jumped out to me with Derisau, his ability to find

1002
00:55:25,719 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 1: the guy he's supposed to block and get up into

1003
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,200
Speaker 1: space after him. Some of these guys just get lost

1004
00:55:30,239 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: trying to move to the second level. Yeah, I just

1005
00:55:33,160 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: I just really liked him. And he made some blocks

1006
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:38,200
Speaker 1: on some Khalil Herbert runs down the field that I

1007
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,880
Speaker 1: thought were tremendous because you have to be pretty athletic,

1008
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 1: you know, the ability to block in space, you know,

1009
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:48,240
Speaker 1: to move be an athlete and then and then track

1010
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:51,319
Speaker 1: a defender who's normally a better athlete than you are.

1011
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:55,200
Speaker 1: To track a defender and strike him with balance, I

1012
00:55:55,239 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 1: think that's a really important trade, and I thought he

1013
00:55:57,280 --> 00:55:59,279
Speaker 1: could do that. Well, let me ask you this. I mean,

1014
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:01,839
Speaker 1: you got the top him, your top ten, I've seen

1015
00:56:01,880 --> 00:56:04,080
Speaker 1: the list. Give us a rundown of the top three

1016
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: guys that are not quarterbacks in this draft, and how

1017
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: close you know what kind of value you get and

1018
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: because of their different positions, I get it. Give us

1019
00:56:12,960 --> 00:56:16,080
Speaker 1: an idea of you know the differences between these top

1020
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:20,120
Speaker 1: three that may not be quarterbacks. Well, if you're looking

1021
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: for non quarterbacks, I think Kyle Pitch is the best

1022
00:56:23,000 --> 00:56:25,319
Speaker 1: prospect in the draft. We probably don't need to spend

1023
00:56:25,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: a lot of time on him. He's been talked about

1024
00:56:27,600 --> 00:56:30,680
Speaker 1: an awful lot. The only thing I'll say about him is,

1025
00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,359
Speaker 1: I don't think it matters what two letters you put

1026
00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:36,520
Speaker 1: before or after his name. He's a receiver, and he's

1027
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: a weapon, so and he can line up anywhere. So

1028
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,760
Speaker 1: to me, he's the best pure prospect in the draft.

1029
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 1: I think Jamar Chase is a big time wide receiver prospect.

1030
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: I loved his twenty nineteen tape. I love the way

1031
00:56:50,680 --> 00:56:53,600
Speaker 1: in which he plays, Steve to me, and you'll appreciate this,

1032
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure. To me, the way in which he played,

1033
00:56:56,200 --> 00:57:00,000
Speaker 1: with his competitiveness and his alpha dog mentality reminded me

1034
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: Steve Smith. Oh, I really loved Lamar Chases. Lamar Jamar

1035
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,560
Speaker 1: Chase's tape an awful lot. He just really jumped out

1036
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,920
Speaker 1: to me a lot. God, I'm trying to think now,

1037
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,680
Speaker 1: I mean, in today's NFL, and I'm staying on the

1038
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball in today's NFL, with the

1039
00:57:20,960 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 1: way receivers are used and the manufactured touches and the

1040
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 1: motion and the movement and lining them up all over,

1041
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 1: I think Jalen Waddle is a big time weapon. I

1042
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:35,120
Speaker 1: saw him very much like a Tyreek hill player, and

1043
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: I think that's the way he can be deployed. And

1044
00:57:37,720 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: I think he's just a dynamic, explosive playmaker. Yeah, and

1045
00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 1: those I mean, you'd be pretty hard to have a

1046
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: problem with any one of those three players. I was

1047
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 1: just impressed with the way Jamar Chase, even though he's

1048
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: like six feet barely six foot, the way he can

1049
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: play above the rim like he plays taller than his size,

1050
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 1: which you know he's he's got a great bill to

1051
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 1: begin with, but the way he can play above the

1052
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:07,120
Speaker 1: rim at just six feet tall is what surprises me

1053
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: most about his game. It's funny you mentioned that because

1054
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,200
Speaker 1: the other receiver who came to mind, and this goes

1055
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: back to last summer when I watched his tape. I

1056
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: watched his tape last Junior July, and I think I

1057
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: watched nine games and the other receiver, and he's not

1058
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: quite as big, but I thought stylistically and physically, he

1059
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:28,520
Speaker 1: played very similar to a DeAndre Hopkins. Yeah, yeah, that's

1060
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,520
Speaker 1: who is who is big, long and has gigantic right right,

1061
00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 1: right right. But but Hopkins, it's funny, is not necessarily

1062
00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:38,000
Speaker 1: as big as people thing. You know, Hopkins is not

1063
00:58:38,080 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: six three two twenty five, right, you know, he's not

1064
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,400
Speaker 1: Julio Jones big. You have. The best corner you've got

1065
00:58:44,440 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: on your list is Patrick Certain And for whatever reason,

1066
00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: a lot of people put him a little lower. Maybe

1067
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: it's because of his physical stature, maybe because of his

1068
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:55,560
Speaker 1: skill set how much and I guess the higher and

1069
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,080
Speaker 1: knowing what I know about you and your evaluations, you

1070
00:58:58,120 --> 00:59:01,840
Speaker 1: put a guy higher on the list if he's scheme transcendent,

1071
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,919
Speaker 1: so to speak. He could do a lot of things

1072
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:07,640
Speaker 1: well as Patrick Stained that kind of guy. In my opinion, Yes,

1073
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: I thought that he was just such a comfortable player.

1074
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: He played what we call mirror match press man, meaning

1075
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: that you don't physically jam the receiver off the ball,

1076
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,800
Speaker 1: You allow him to declare his route, his release, and

1077
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 1: then you pretty much just get in his hip pocket.

1078
00:59:29,320 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: That's what mirror match press man is. I thought he

1079
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:34,920
Speaker 1: played that as well as any corner in this draft.

1080
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 1: He reminded me Steve of Champ Balley the way in

1081
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:41,919
Speaker 1: which he played that particular technique. Now we could also

1082
00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: be physical. He competed, he tackled in the run game,

1083
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:49,600
Speaker 1: but he was just so smooth and so comfortable. Now,

1084
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,440
Speaker 1: some people might look at the fact that he doesn't

1085
00:59:52,520 --> 00:59:56,880
Speaker 1: have what you'd call great long speed. Josh Palmer of

1086
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,720
Speaker 1: Tennessee ran by him a few times and his forty

1087
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: yard time was not great. But I just think the

1088
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:06,200
Speaker 1: technique with which he plays and his understanding of how

1089
01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: to play will easily compensate for that. To me, he

1090
01:00:10,160 --> 01:00:12,920
Speaker 1: was the best corner prospect in the draft, and if

1091
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:16,000
Speaker 1: your scheme likes run support corners, this guy is like

1092
01:00:16,000 --> 01:00:18,640
Speaker 1: one of the hardest hitters at the position. I mean

1093
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 1: he hits people, yes, and he would come up and

1094
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: hit let's say on the screen game too. I mean

1095
01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:28,919
Speaker 1: highly competitive player, I mean just a comfortable player. I mean, again,

1096
01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,160
Speaker 1: we know who his dad is. This guy looks like

1097
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 1: he was born to play mirror match press man. You know,

1098
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:36,280
Speaker 1: it's interesting you mentioned mentioned the whole dad thing, because

1099
01:00:36,320 --> 01:00:39,240
Speaker 1: if you run down the list of corners, Greg, it's uncanny.

1100
01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 1: This year everybody's got a dad who played in the NFL,

1101
01:00:41,920 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 1: whether it's Elijah Moulden, Asante, Samuel M. Patrick's R and J. C. Horne,

1102
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: it's crazy. Yeah. Well you mentioned Elijah Molden and I

1103
01:00:55,760 --> 01:00:58,560
Speaker 1: I was fascinated by his tape. I watched him last

1104
01:00:58,600 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: summer because Washington. I didn't know how many games Washington

1105
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: would play because the PAC twelve and announced they weren't playing,

1106
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,480
Speaker 1: and then they did. They only played four games this year,

1107
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:08,280
Speaker 1: and I watched all four of those, but I think

1108
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:11,520
Speaker 1: I watched seven or eight games last summer. Um. He

1109
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,400
Speaker 1: to me, and I know this is a high, high

1110
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:19,000
Speaker 1: level comp Chris, but he very much reminded me of

1111
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,640
Speaker 1: Turan Matthew. This kid played a ton of slot corner.

1112
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: He played safety. He is to me just a really

1113
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:29,560
Speaker 1: really good player. You know, I hate to be cliched.

1114
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: I'm not that guy. As you know, I don't say

1115
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 1: things like, you know, oh he's got great instincts or

1116
01:01:34,680 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: but this kid, to me is just a football player.

1117
01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,520
Speaker 1: And like I said, I know that's a cliche, but

1118
01:01:41,120 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 1: you know, I think Steve knows exactly what I mean

1119
01:01:43,000 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: when I say that, Yeah, he's a little Yeah, there's

1120
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,720
Speaker 1: there's been. You can point to a number of guys

1121
01:01:47,960 --> 01:01:50,240
Speaker 1: that have come and gone, both great players and just

1122
01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:55,280
Speaker 1: okay guys that are that that fit that kind of description.

1123
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: You can plug him in anywhere all of a sudden,

1124
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 1: they kind of seemed like they've been playing it for

1125
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,680
Speaker 1: a lot longer than they have. That position you put

1126
01:02:00,760 --> 01:02:03,680
Speaker 1: him in, and I mean, he see me, he checks

1127
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: all the boxes. The only thing he doesn't have his

1128
01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:07,640
Speaker 1: long speed. So there were times when he played the

1129
01:02:07,720 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: slot where let's say a slot fade got on top

1130
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: of him. But he's sudden, he's explosive, he can match

1131
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: up man to man in the slot. He can play safety.

1132
01:02:19,520 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: They played him a ton at safety as well, So

1133
01:02:22,560 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: like I said, he's a little to ran Matthews. He's

1134
01:02:24,840 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 1: a little I guess you could almost say he's got

1135
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,120
Speaker 1: some Buddha Baker in him as well, who came from

1136
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 1: the same school, University of Washington. To me, he's that

1137
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,320
Speaker 1: kind of player. There's another guy that plays a similar

1138
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: kind of role and has positioned flexibility, but doesn't look

1139
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,720
Speaker 1: anything like Elijah Molden and may have the best name

1140
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 1: in the entire draft, Divine Diablo from Virginia Tech. Greg.

1141
01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 1: I mean this guy, I mean he stands out on

1142
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: the field in the back seven, and I wonder if

1143
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,600
Speaker 1: teams are gonna have a tough time figuring out what

1144
01:02:57,880 --> 01:03:01,040
Speaker 1: he is and if that could impact his draft status

1145
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:04,880
Speaker 1: somewhere on Day two. And Chris, that's a great, great

1146
01:03:04,920 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: point that you made, because he was a guy that

1147
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: grew on me because you know, you watch him, he's

1148
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: he's over six threes to twenty six. I mean, he

1149
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 1: looks the part, but he's not necessarily you know, you don't.

1150
01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,680
Speaker 1: You come away watching his tape initially going wow, look

1151
01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: at that guy, and then you watch more and more

1152
01:03:20,200 --> 01:03:25,479
Speaker 1: and more, and he's always he plays in the box

1153
01:03:25,600 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 1: first of all, and he'll he's a good run defender.

1154
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:30,880
Speaker 1: He can match up man to man on the slot.

1155
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:33,160
Speaker 1: He can match up man to man on tight ends.

1156
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: You know, can he match up to the best tight ends?

1157
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: I guess we'd have to find that out. But you're right.

1158
01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 1: And and what you just said is what I typed

1159
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,760
Speaker 1: in my transition. I said, maybe the bigger question is

1160
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: what is he? You know? Is he a box safety

1161
01:03:50,800 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: for teams who play single high? Is he um a

1162
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 1: quarter safety for teams whose coverage foundation is covered four? Um?

1163
01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,320
Speaker 1: Do you move him to line backer? Because you look

1164
01:04:01,360 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 1: at what the Chargers did with Kazer White, who came

1165
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,720
Speaker 1: out of West Virginia a year ago as kind of

1166
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,680
Speaker 1: a hybrid safety, and they moved him to a linebacker.

1167
01:04:08,800 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm not sure that will be team

1168
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 1: and scheme specific. But the more I watched this kid, Chris,

1169
01:04:15,160 --> 01:04:16,920
Speaker 1: the more I liked it. Yeah, I know, I mean too,

1170
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: And do you what about him as a big nickel?

1171
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,919
Speaker 1: What do you think of that? Yeah? Oh for sure,

1172
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: I mean play. Yes, teams that play with three safeties

1173
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 1: as part of their base without question, without question, I

1174
01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: think you're a you know, a hundred. In fact, that

1175
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:33,880
Speaker 1: was another note I made. I said, is he the

1176
01:04:33,960 --> 01:04:36,480
Speaker 1: third safety in a big nickel the way Jay run

1177
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:39,439
Speaker 1: curse was used with the Viking, because Jay run Curse

1178
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: when he came out of Clemson similar sized athlete as Diablo.

1179
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:45,920
Speaker 1: If there's gonna be a guy maybe in the top

1180
01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,040
Speaker 1: twenty and how many? First of all two questions, how

1181
01:04:48,080 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: many first round guys do you see in this draft

1182
01:04:51,480 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 1: talent prospect wise? How many guys maybe separate themselves from

1183
01:04:55,040 --> 01:04:58,280
Speaker 1: the second round? And which of those guys do you

1184
01:04:58,360 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: think is gonna be maybe make us a prize jump

1185
01:05:00,600 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 1: maybe in the top ten. Do you think there's gonna

1186
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: be a guy like that who maybe surprises people who

1187
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,160
Speaker 1: we thought, oh he's a pretty good maybe first round pick,

1188
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,720
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden he's like in the top ten.

1189
01:05:08,840 --> 01:05:11,720
Speaker 1: Is there answer both those? How many first rounders are there?

1190
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 1: And if you had to pick a guy who's gonna

1191
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: make a big jump like that, who's it gonna be?

1192
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: That's a hard question for me to answer. I'll tell

1193
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 1: you I can pick a guy in my mind who

1194
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,480
Speaker 1: I think is going to end up going higher than

1195
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 1: people think, not in the top ten. And I don't

1196
01:05:28,080 --> 01:05:30,920
Speaker 1: know if we've spoken about him. We may have, but

1197
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,840
Speaker 1: and I've been on this guy's Bandwagon since I watched

1198
01:05:34,880 --> 01:05:37,120
Speaker 1: his tape maybe seven eight weeks ago, and that's the

1199
01:05:37,240 --> 01:05:40,120
Speaker 1: linebacker from Kentucky, Jim and Davis. You know, I have

1200
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: no idea where he'll go, but I just think this

1201
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,920
Speaker 1: kid has everything you look for in a linebacker in

1202
01:05:47,000 --> 01:05:50,240
Speaker 1: today's NFL. And keep one thing in mind. Last year,

1203
01:05:50,560 --> 01:05:53,720
Speaker 1: the position that had more players drafted than any other

1204
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:56,560
Speaker 1: position in the draft was linebacker and that was the

1205
01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:59,840
Speaker 1: first time that had happened in a really, really long time.

1206
01:06:00,360 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: And here's I mean, look at this, here's Davis right now.

1207
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,760
Speaker 1: Look at that interception. Look at the athleticism. You're talking

1208
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,920
Speaker 1: about a kid who's two hundred and thirty five pounds

1209
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 1: and over sixty three sou and he can play. You

1210
01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:14,640
Speaker 1: see the athleticism and the body control in the hands

1211
01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: when he made that pick. So again, I'm not good

1212
01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:21,520
Speaker 1: at knowing where guys will go, Steve, but this this

1213
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:23,440
Speaker 1: was a kid. When I watched his tape, I just

1214
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:26,920
Speaker 1: said to myself, you know what this kid fits today's

1215
01:06:27,040 --> 01:06:30,280
Speaker 1: NFL game as a linebacker. He's a three down linebacker. Now,

1216
01:06:30,320 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if that'll be the case day one,

1217
01:06:32,360 --> 01:06:35,240
Speaker 1: but it will happen. What is your take on how

1218
01:06:35,320 --> 01:06:39,040
Speaker 1: big the first round talent drops too? How many guys

1219
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: what do you mean, like, how many guys would you

1220
01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:45,240
Speaker 1: rate his first round first round grades? Oh? Oh, I

1221
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: don't rate it like that, but I can tell you

1222
01:06:47,280 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 1: that any given year there is only about twelve to

1223
01:06:50,520 --> 01:06:54,440
Speaker 1: fifteen guys that get first round grades, true true first

1224
01:06:54,560 --> 01:07:00,320
Speaker 1: round grades. And you know that becomes team specific viosly

1225
01:07:00,440 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 1: because teams great players based on their team, uh, you know,

1226
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:07,440
Speaker 1: and what they're looking for. Um and unless they're transcendent.

1227
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:10,400
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, every team will have Kyle Pitts and

1228
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: Jamar Chase High. It doesn't matter what your needs are

1229
01:07:13,120 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: or or what scheme you run. There's certain players that

1230
01:07:15,960 --> 01:07:18,800
Speaker 1: are just those players. But then you start getting beyond

1231
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,760
Speaker 1: Steve the this top ten, top eleven, and then you

1232
01:07:22,840 --> 01:07:26,040
Speaker 1: start getting into how teams seat players. It becomes in

1233
01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: the eye of the beholder, right. The one guy I

1234
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:33,280
Speaker 1: was intrigued by watching recently greg was Kenny Yboat, the

1235
01:07:33,320 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: old miss tight end. Uh. He intrigues me. And then

1236
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:41,000
Speaker 1: I watched the Alabama game. I almost fell out of

1237
01:07:41,080 --> 01:07:44,080
Speaker 1: my chair. I mean seven catches, one hundred and eighty

1238
01:07:44,120 --> 01:07:46,840
Speaker 1: one yards, two touchdowns. I mean he was scorching that team.

1239
01:07:47,280 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: What do you what do you make of him? Yeah,

1240
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,520
Speaker 1: he's an interesting guy. I mean he's he played one

1241
01:07:53,600 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 1: year in the SEC after transferring from Temple UM. You know,

1242
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,440
Speaker 1: I think he had showed good place speed, Chris. I

1243
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,400
Speaker 1: mean he could run seam routes. He ran a lot

1244
01:08:02,440 --> 01:08:04,720
Speaker 1: of seam routes where no one stopped him. He literally

1245
01:08:04,760 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: just ran the seam and there was no one there. So,

1246
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,480
Speaker 1: you know, it's always hard to judge those plays and

1247
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:15,120
Speaker 1: evaluate those plays. He didn't see a whole lot of

1248
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 1: route running, you know, Like I said, he ran a

1249
01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:18,880
Speaker 1: lot of routes where he just ran straight and nobody

1250
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,160
Speaker 1: picked him up. You didn't see a lot of route running.

1251
01:08:22,240 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 1: I'm curious to see if he can line up at

1252
01:08:23,960 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: boundary X. I think he's a good athlete. I don't

1253
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,080
Speaker 1: know if he's a great athlete. Does he have the

1254
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,479
Speaker 1: route in separation quickness to win? We didn't see a

1255
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,880
Speaker 1: lot of that. What he did was he made a

1256
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:39,800
Speaker 1: lot of contested catches. That trade's always essential in a

1257
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:42,479
Speaker 1: league that's defined by matchup. So you know, I think

1258
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,240
Speaker 1: there's something there with this kid. I don't think he's

1259
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:49,720
Speaker 1: a great blocker, I think that there are times I

1260
01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 1: felt like he didn't want to do it a whole lot,

1261
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: but there are other times I thought he did. So

1262
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,160
Speaker 1: you know, you got to get him to compete all

1263
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,320
Speaker 1: the time. But he's interesting. He'll be a Day three guy,

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01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,400
Speaker 1: but it'll be interesting to see where he goes. I've

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01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: always believed, just to throw this out, that tight end

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01:09:05,080 --> 01:09:07,360
Speaker 1: production in the NFL. I mean, unless you're, you know,

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01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:09,400
Speaker 1: such a high trades guy, and there aren't that many

1268
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:12,200
Speaker 1: of those guys. Becomes a function of team, you know,

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01:09:12,360 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 1: Like I always felt like someone like Zach Ertz, if

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Speaker 1: he went to another team that didn't feature the tight

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01:09:16,400 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: end and caught forty five balls instead of a hundred balls,

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01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,760
Speaker 1: he'd still be the exact same player. It's just a

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01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:27,360
Speaker 1: matter of volume targets. Yeah. Yeah, one guy I want

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01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:30,840
Speaker 1: to ask you about, and I'm it's my I'm down

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01:09:30,920 --> 01:09:33,080
Speaker 1: to two spots where the bills are. They're gonna pick

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01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 1: it thirty. If they pick it thirty or trade up,

1277
01:09:34,840 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: trade down, I don't know. But if they pick it thirty,

1278
01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,800
Speaker 1: I'm thinking edge rusher or cornerback. I got to ask

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01:09:39,840 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 1: you about a quarterback from Stanford, Paulson Adebo. What he

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01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 1: what are his traits and how would he fit if

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:50,840
Speaker 1: the Bills, you know, if there was a run on

1282
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:54,360
Speaker 1: corners and the Bills thought he was the best guy left. Yeah,

1283
01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean, he's he's an interesting player. He's six to one,

1284
01:09:56,880 --> 01:10:00,479
Speaker 1: about two hundred, he's long, he's a little I cut,

1285
01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:04,880
Speaker 1: so he's he's kind of loose as an athlete. But

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Speaker 1: sometimes because of the way he's high cut, you know,

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01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 1: he's not necessarily a sudden explosive guy. Um. Sometimes he

1288
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:15,439
Speaker 1: struggled to make contact at the at the top of

1289
01:10:15,479 --> 01:10:18,200
Speaker 1: the route stem and man coverage. I thought that his

1290
01:10:18,360 --> 01:10:21,160
Speaker 1: transition and change of direction because of being high cut

1291
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:23,600
Speaker 1: was kind of a little segmented. Sometimes it was a

1292
01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:27,400
Speaker 1: little deliberate. Believe it or not. I'm sure he is

1293
01:10:27,439 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 1: to see if some teams will look at him as

1294
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:33,360
Speaker 1: a safety prospect. But that could just be me. But

1295
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:37,080
Speaker 1: you know, I would think that he would transition better

1296
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: because he was savvy and aware and zone coverage. I

1297
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 1: would think he would transition better to zone based teams.

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:47,479
Speaker 1: I guess you could put the Bills into that category. Yeah,

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01:10:47,640 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: he I mean, his ball production is off the charts

1300
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:52,560
Speaker 1: for the amount of time and he was targeted a

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01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:54,760
Speaker 1: lot and he made a lot of plays. And it's

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01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:58,040
Speaker 1: probably because of that length that you mentioned. Oh yeah,

1303
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:00,639
Speaker 1: but yeah, when you're that long, it's the flip that's

1304
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: the issue. Right, Like, he's correct when you say and

1305
01:11:03,360 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 1: that showed up. But you made a great point, I

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01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,800
Speaker 1: mean in my notes, and you know I pulled him

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 1: up right now when you asked me. I made the

1308
01:11:09,560 --> 01:11:12,160
Speaker 1: point excellent ball production, made plays on the ball, and

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01:11:12,240 --> 01:11:14,560
Speaker 1: he had the opportunity length and hands. I mean, his

1310
01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,000
Speaker 1: ball production was really good. When you say high cut,

1311
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: that means he's got long legs, right, long legs. Heah,

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01:11:20,360 --> 01:11:22,760
Speaker 1: high cutting, long legged when what that does, Steve, as

1313
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,519
Speaker 1: you know, is that negatively impacts transition and change of direction. Right.

1314
01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,439
Speaker 1: It takes a long time to get yourself stopped, and

1315
01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,679
Speaker 1: you got those long legs right. Yeah. Well listen, Greg,

1316
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,200
Speaker 1: we know that you'll be helping us out hopefully during

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01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,960
Speaker 1: our draft streaming content which becoming on everybody's way on

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01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: draft night. I'd love to yeah, yeah, that'd be great, um,

1319
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 1: And we appreciate all of the insight on tape review

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01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 1: that you've poured over these last few weeks to help

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01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:51,000
Speaker 1: us in the run up to the draft. So it's

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01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,640
Speaker 1: been it's been a valuable resource and we appreciate it.

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01:11:53,720 --> 01:11:56,559
Speaker 1: So thanks for the time each and every week here. Hey,

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01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: Well when Steve's you know, relaxing tomorrow, Steve, just think

1325
01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: I'll be writing my off TOAR Films watching tape albe

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: and I will think about you. Well, if you do,

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01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 1: then you need a better light I would. We've been

1328
01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:11,880
Speaker 1: talking about that. Yes, yeah, he's got it pretty good.

1329
01:12:13,439 --> 01:12:16,240
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, Thanks appreciate it. That's Great co Sale senior

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01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: producer from NFL Films joining us. And yeah, I just

1331
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,840
Speaker 1: like bouncing off guys because I mean, I don't watch

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01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:24,639
Speaker 1: as much tape as Great Co Sale, but I watch

1333
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: a decent amount just to feel prepared for the draft.

1334
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,920
Speaker 1: And some of these guys pop up, I'm like, oh,

1335
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 1: that guy's interesting. Oh you know, and I want to ask,

1336
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:36,200
Speaker 1: knowing he's watched a ton more film than I have,

1337
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:38,439
Speaker 1: I just want to get his thoughts and see if

1338
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 1: what I'm thinking kind of aligns with what he's written

1339
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 1: up on these guys. And you know, a Debo's an

1340
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,639
Speaker 1: intriguing player to me, not day one. He's not gonna

1341
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: be the thirtieth pick in the draft, but maybe somewhere

1342
01:12:48,520 --> 01:12:51,240
Speaker 1: on Day two he becomes an option. So if the

1343
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:54,080
Speaker 1: Bills don't get that corner in round one, I'm like, oh,

1344
01:12:54,200 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: maybe this guy can be a fit, you know what

1345
01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, that's and that's why I kind of

1346
01:12:58,120 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: asked about him. If if the if the Bills go

1347
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:04,439
Speaker 1: thirty and they go edge sixty four, maybe they get

1348
01:13:04,479 --> 01:13:06,240
Speaker 1: a shot at this guy. Yeah, sixty one, yeah, or

1349
01:13:06,240 --> 01:13:09,360
Speaker 1: sixty one. So and that's kind of why you ask

1350
01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,560
Speaker 1: about it, Like he's not, but he does kind of

1351
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: scheme fit, you know what I mean. That's what I

1352
01:13:13,600 --> 01:13:15,560
Speaker 1: saw when I was watching him. I was like, this

1353
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,160
Speaker 1: guy could fit in a Bill scheme. Like but that's

1354
01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:19,880
Speaker 1: the fun part about this. We don't know who these

1355
01:13:19,920 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be there. They're gonna be really good players.

1356
01:13:22,479 --> 01:13:25,280
Speaker 1: This this first three picks for particularly the Buffalo Bills.

1357
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,000
Speaker 1: This you know, the thirty, the sixty one, and the

1358
01:13:28,200 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 1: ninety three. They're gonna be good players. And where they

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01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:35,760
Speaker 1: fit and what they look like is gonna be really

1360
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: fun to see. And and the thing you gotta know

1361
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 1: is at that at that level with the with the

1362
01:13:40,479 --> 01:13:43,040
Speaker 1: boxes that they check before you even know who they

1363
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,400
Speaker 1: are to get to a level of a third round

1364
01:13:45,479 --> 01:13:49,640
Speaker 1: draft pick in the NFL. They've got the they've got potential,

1365
01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:52,599
Speaker 1: and if they transition to the NFL and they're one

1366
01:13:52,600 --> 01:13:54,519
Speaker 1: of those guys and I talked about this a while back,

1367
01:13:54,600 --> 01:13:56,960
Speaker 1: where it's not too big for him. Some guys come

1368
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: to the NFL and it's different and they don't really

1369
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:00,960
Speaker 1: quite you know, it's different college, and they're not They

1370
01:14:01,000 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 1: have a hard time transitioning. Other guys, not as many,

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01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: but a couple of guys, a few guys in every

1372
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,839
Speaker 1: draft class get to the NFL and they thrive, they blossom,

1373
01:14:09,880 --> 01:14:11,800
Speaker 1: you know, they got him bloom at the NFL level.

1374
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,240
Speaker 1: It's what It's better than the college game for them.

1375
01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,599
Speaker 1: All three of those first three picks of the Bills

1376
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,760
Speaker 1: in the physical traits will be guys with those possibilities.

1377
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,000
Speaker 1: And and even further down the draft, you can get

1378
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,439
Speaker 1: guys like like Matt Milano. You can get guys like

1379
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: that that all of a sudden they turn pro and

1380
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:30,560
Speaker 1: they're like, they blossom into this great player that you

1381
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,360
Speaker 1: don't even know they could be in college. That old

1382
01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: miss tight end that I asked him about, Kenny Roa,

1383
01:14:35,080 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 1: you know, he's a transfer from Temple one year at

1384
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 1: Old Miss, and he averages nineteen point four yards a catch.

1385
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:42,439
Speaker 1: People just forget about him in the passing game. I'm

1386
01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: watching on tape. I'm like, how are you not? He's

1387
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:49,320
Speaker 1: six four, two hundred and fifty pounds and he got

1388
01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:52,559
Speaker 1: thirty four and eighth in arms. I mean, dude, he's

1389
01:14:52,600 --> 01:14:54,880
Speaker 1: a big, long dude. He's a little stiff in the hips,

1390
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 1: and he's got flaws, which is why he's not going

1391
01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,519
Speaker 1: to go until day three. But I'm thinking, Okay, the

1392
01:14:59,560 --> 01:15:02,880
Speaker 1: Bills have two fives and a six. He probably falls

1393
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:07,680
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. And he's got playmaking ability, and so

1394
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,439
Speaker 1: that's a guy that you take a flyer on on

1395
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 1: day three. Well, you're and he's not blocking anybody in

1396
01:15:13,479 --> 01:15:15,960
Speaker 1: the past in the past game either. He's a getting

1397
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 1: the way guy at best as a tight end blocker.

1398
01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 1: But maybe you say, man, let's put him in the

1399
01:15:21,800 --> 01:15:25,680
Speaker 1: slot opposite Knox, you know, and put Digs out here

1400
01:15:25,720 --> 01:15:28,120
Speaker 1: and Gabe Davis over or Emmanuel Sanders over there, and

1401
01:15:28,200 --> 01:15:30,200
Speaker 1: let's go. Yeah, you'd have two Old Miss tight ends

1402
01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,080
Speaker 1: on your roster with Dawson Knox and this guy, and

1403
01:15:32,160 --> 01:15:37,360
Speaker 1: it You're right, you'd have to take a little bit

1404
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 1: of a flyer on a guy who, if you want

1405
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:40,240
Speaker 1: to run the football, you don't want on the field

1406
01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,760
Speaker 1: at least the beginning or and like Greg said, you

1407
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 1: gotta get him to turn it up all the time,

1408
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,600
Speaker 1: not just sometimes. You get him at the end of

1409
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 1: the fifth round. You know, the risk is not great.

1410
01:15:50,120 --> 01:15:52,200
Speaker 1: You know you're that's where you're You're gonna have to

1411
01:15:52,280 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 1: take guys with flaws that you think you can develop

1412
01:15:54,640 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 1: if you believe in them. But in an encouraging light,

1413
01:15:57,760 --> 01:16:01,839
Speaker 1: it's whether he's a fifth rounder or not. The commitment

1414
01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: by the club is still there. They're going to try

1415
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 1: and get the most out of this, and this coaching

1416
01:16:06,120 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 1: staff takes great pride in doing that and developing players,

1417
01:16:09,160 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 1: and players thrive on it. And players have said after

1418
01:16:11,680 --> 01:16:14,439
Speaker 1: they left here and before they showed up show up here,

1419
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:18,960
Speaker 1: that that's what sells them on the Buffalo Bills is

1420
01:16:19,000 --> 01:16:22,439
Speaker 1: the fact that you're better after you're there than you

1421
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,679
Speaker 1: were when you showed up. And that's that's a huge

1422
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:29,040
Speaker 1: thing for the NFL players that come here and play. Yeah,

1423
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,920
Speaker 1: the only thing that's missing on him is a forty

1424
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:33,120
Speaker 1: time I cannot find a forty time on your bows,

1425
01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:35,719
Speaker 1: probably because I think he had he had a hamstring injury.

1426
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 1: I'm guessing at his pro day. Yeah, before he ran

1427
01:16:39,320 --> 01:16:42,080
Speaker 1: the forty, I'm guessing he's not. He's not running a

1428
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,200
Speaker 1: four three, or we would because he did he did

1429
01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,920
Speaker 1: the shuttle, um, did the broad jump and did the

1430
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 1: vertical jump and then he tweaked his hamstring and couldn't

1431
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 1: run the forty. So or he pulled up on the forty.

1432
01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,479
Speaker 1: So they don't have a forty time on him. Um,

1433
01:16:59,160 --> 01:17:02,360
Speaker 1: I know something, Well, maybe they do with that GPS technology.

1434
01:17:02,400 --> 01:17:04,600
Speaker 1: Aren't the college kids running around with the GPS? Oh no,

1435
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,280
Speaker 1: that's in the NFL. They don't have it in the college.

1436
01:17:08,240 --> 01:17:09,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, they're gonna have to do some digging to

1437
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: get a solid forty time on him to know what

1438
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: he ran. But you know, it's those guys in day

1439
01:17:17,800 --> 01:17:20,280
Speaker 1: three They intrigue me. Man. I just I get all

1440
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:23,160
Speaker 1: wrapped up in some guys that like flash on tape.

1441
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, ooh, what about that guy? But uh, I

1442
01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,640
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm kind of like I'm kind of like,

1443
01:17:27,720 --> 01:17:30,439
Speaker 1: you know, your pet dog, squirrel? What that's That's how

1444
01:17:30,479 --> 01:17:32,240
Speaker 1: I am with some of these day three guys, I

1445
01:17:32,320 --> 01:17:34,160
Speaker 1: just I get I get deep in the weeds on

1446
01:17:34,240 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 1: him and Kenny Abow was one guy who caught my eye.

1447
01:17:36,880 --> 01:17:38,519
Speaker 1: We have to take a break, but when we come back,

1448
01:17:38,560 --> 01:17:40,760
Speaker 1: it's time to up and open up the obi L

1449
01:17:40,880 --> 01:17:44,680
Speaker 1: Fan Friday mail Bag. Your questions coming up next. You're

1450
01:17:44,720 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, presented by Collott of Health. It's

1451
01:17:46,560 --> 01:18:01,599
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live. Second

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,559
Speaker 1: half of the show underway here on a Friday. Get

1453
01:18:03,600 --> 01:18:05,920
Speaker 1: to the obl Fan mail Bag here in just a sec.

1454
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 1: But there is this from our good friend, Dolphins beat

1455
01:18:09,479 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 1: reporter Alan Poopar. He said Denver Broncos GM George Patton

1456
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 1: has revealed he had a conversation with Miami Dolphins GM

1457
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:22,879
Speaker 1: Chris Greer recently. Who's not only appear but a former colleague,

1458
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:27,840
Speaker 1: two friends catching up or two GM's talking business on

1459
01:18:27,960 --> 01:18:31,160
Speaker 1: a potential trade deal. Let's not forget they sit only

1460
01:18:31,280 --> 01:18:34,040
Speaker 1: three picks away. Steve at six and nine. Who's gonna

1461
01:18:34,040 --> 01:18:36,160
Speaker 1: want I mean, Denver's gonna want to move up and

1462
01:18:36,160 --> 01:18:39,040
Speaker 1: get a quarterback. Get up to six in case somebody slides.

1463
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:44,320
Speaker 1: If somebody slides, get it, I find Miami, please Miami,

1464
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:48,200
Speaker 1: do not pick a quarterback. Oh, Miami's not picking a Quarterbain,

1465
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:51,840
Speaker 1: no way. Well I don't say no way, because if

1466
01:18:51,880 --> 01:18:53,599
Speaker 1: it was you or me, I'd be picking a quarterback.

1467
01:18:53,680 --> 01:18:57,479
Speaker 1: Well yeah, but they're they're locked in on tah Man.

1468
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 1: They are locked in onto a. So I think Miami

1469
01:19:03,000 --> 01:19:06,200
Speaker 1: probably moves out of six if one of their top

1470
01:19:06,280 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: two receiving weapons are off the board. So if Atlanta

1471
01:19:10,479 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: goes Kyle Pitts and Cincinnati goes Jamar Chase, I could

1472
01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 1: see Miami moving out of that spot at six, sliding

1473
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:20,839
Speaker 1: back to nine with Denver and taking an old lineman

1474
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:23,639
Speaker 1: there like Slater or somebody. All right, let me that's

1475
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:25,599
Speaker 1: what I could And then Denver moves up to six.

1476
01:19:26,200 --> 01:19:28,879
Speaker 1: And because Denver moves up to six, because if Atlanta

1477
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:32,160
Speaker 1: takes a non quarterback and Cincinnati takes a non quarterback,

1478
01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,160
Speaker 1: the fourth one is still on the board. And now

1479
01:19:34,280 --> 01:19:37,000
Speaker 1: Denver goes and gets the quarterback at six with a

1480
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,559
Speaker 1: trade up that I could see it happening soon. Then

1481
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: Denver's gotta throw in an extro. Going up three spots,

1482
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:50,960
Speaker 1: they'd have to throw in something between a middle third

1483
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:56,920
Speaker 1: round to a mid second round in exchange for that, Yeah,

1484
01:19:57,520 --> 01:20:00,679
Speaker 1: high second or maybe a second rounder, a low second rounder,

1485
01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:05,720
Speaker 1: well or third mate. Now, Patton also said the other

1486
01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: day he does want competition for Drew Locke, which to

1487
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 1: me says we're not convinced he's our franchise guy. So

1488
01:20:14,840 --> 01:20:17,880
Speaker 1: this is a move that I think is reasonable well

1489
01:20:18,360 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: to think about. Yeah, it is, but it's also a

1490
01:20:21,400 --> 01:20:24,679
Speaker 1: move whereas if the right guy drops, then Denver wants

1491
01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: to move. It doesn't mean it's absolutely gonna happen, you

1492
01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:31,120
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I mean they're saying the conversation

1493
01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:34,880
Speaker 1: because conversations take place all the time, and what that

1494
01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: conversation could entails like, hey, listen, if AB and c

1495
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 1: all happen, we're gonna make this deal with you. So

1496
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:45,559
Speaker 1: what that is If all three of those things happen,

1497
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: then you know, we have a conversation. But them having

1498
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:53,000
Speaker 1: a conversation, I don't know what it was about, except that,

1499
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 1: you know, laying the groundwork so that in five minutes

1500
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,000
Speaker 1: on the or fifteen minutes on the clock, they can

1501
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: have the entire conversation again really quick and say here's

1502
01:21:01,600 --> 01:21:03,679
Speaker 1: what we're offering. You remember the deal, so okay, let's

1503
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,519
Speaker 1: do it. That kind of thing um what that is.

1504
01:21:07,360 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if they'd be completely honest

1505
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 1: with each other, you know what I mean. Picks four

1506
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 1: and five are so interesting. They could trigger so much

1507
01:21:16,360 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: stuff behind. I don't know they could. But you know,

1508
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:21,599
Speaker 1: there's only so many guys that they're gonna be worth

1509
01:21:21,760 --> 01:21:27,200
Speaker 1: those picks. Yeah, so Smith's gonna slide a little bit.

1510
01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,760
Speaker 1: People are convinced he's gonna be a top ten pick.

1511
01:21:31,400 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: Davante Smith. I don't know. He might. I don't lie.

1512
01:21:34,280 --> 01:21:36,560
Speaker 1: So when he weighs in at one sixty six, I

1513
01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:39,519
Speaker 1: do not think. So I go back and look at

1514
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,120
Speaker 1: other guys like that most yards after catching FBS this year.

1515
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:49,280
Speaker 1: He's a great kid. He's a really good football player.

1516
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,320
Speaker 1: But I'm telling you what. You can line up Jalen

1517
01:21:52,439 --> 01:21:54,800
Speaker 1: Ramsey on him, Jalen Ramsey, You'll put two hands on

1518
01:21:54,920 --> 01:21:58,120
Speaker 1: him and kock him out. He'll toss him into the bench. Yeah,

1519
01:21:59,080 --> 01:22:03,519
Speaker 1: he'll knock over trade bottles with that guy. He used

1520
01:22:03,600 --> 01:22:07,120
Speaker 1: him like he'd be like a I go out. He's

1521
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:08,880
Speaker 1: like the thing you throw at the bottles at the

1522
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 1: at the carnival. That's what That's what he'll be. Wow,

1523
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:17,240
Speaker 1: he's a little like you know, he's a little bit

1524
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 1: like Antoine Anthony Carter, you know, great receiver, great college receiver,

1525
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:25,679
Speaker 1: but at a pro he was just he was okay, Yeah,

1526
01:22:26,240 --> 01:22:28,600
Speaker 1: you know he's good. It wasn't great. That's to me,

1527
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:36,799
Speaker 1: that's Jalen Smith, DeVante Smith. Um, real quick in short spaces.

1528
01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,960
Speaker 1: He got kind of long, long legged and very thin,

1529
01:22:41,400 --> 01:22:43,840
Speaker 1: very thin, And I know that the game is different.

1530
01:22:43,880 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: He's not gonna take the physical punishment than he might

1531
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 1: have you know, fifteen twenty years ago. But you can

1532
01:22:51,479 --> 01:22:55,720
Speaker 1: only escape that for so long. And plus he's not

1533
01:22:55,800 --> 01:22:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna you know, they're like like I've heard, like dan

1534
01:22:58,000 --> 01:22:59,439
Speaker 1: Or Lobski had a nice thing on a Friend of

1535
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:01,600
Speaker 1: the show. He said, you're gonna have to move that

1536
01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:03,760
Speaker 1: guy around to get him some free releases. You've got

1537
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:06,559
Speaker 1: to give him either off the ball release or as

1538
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:08,920
Speaker 1: a moo motion guy off the ball, you know, a

1539
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:13,160
Speaker 1: motion guy free release. Um, he's not going to be

1540
01:23:13,200 --> 01:23:15,240
Speaker 1: able to stand there right on the line of scrimmage

1541
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: and have a guy face up on him press man. Yeah,

1542
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:22,760
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a problem for him, I think, And

1543
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,880
Speaker 1: so did Orlowski agreed with me. You're gonna have to

1544
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:27,920
Speaker 1: move him around. And I guess, okay, but you know

1545
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,240
Speaker 1: you're never you can never put him on the line

1546
01:23:30,280 --> 01:23:34,680
Speaker 1: scrimmage against bump. Well that's limitation. Yeah, and you know,

1547
01:23:34,880 --> 01:23:38,320
Speaker 1: to drafted somebody sixth overall to be that limited. You're

1548
01:23:38,320 --> 01:23:40,400
Speaker 1: not gonna draft to guys limited in that kind of

1549
01:23:40,479 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 1: way that high. I think, not when there's a bunch

1550
01:23:43,520 --> 01:23:45,560
Speaker 1: of other guys who don't have that limit. I don't know.

1551
01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,120
Speaker 1: I don't either. I do not think he does. Yeah,

1552
01:23:50,280 --> 01:23:53,240
Speaker 1: let's go to the OBL Friday fan mail bag. Tiffany

1553
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:55,640
Speaker 1: leads is off asking do you think Christian Wade can

1554
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:58,920
Speaker 1: beat out Matt Breda and make the Bills active roster.

1555
01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,519
Speaker 1: Christian Wade obviously the international player, but now he has

1556
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,640
Speaker 1: run out his two year international player designation has to

1557
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: strictly make the roster as a regular player. I will

1558
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 1: say no. Yeah. I have a tough time seeing that

1559
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:18,719
Speaker 1: happening too, unfortunately. I mean, we all love Christian Wade,

1560
01:24:18,800 --> 01:24:24,400
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Brida's a four three eight guy

1561
01:24:24,479 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: who's had success in this league. Averaged five yards to

1562
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: carry in San Francisco in a committee backfield, So he's

1563
01:24:31,120 --> 01:24:33,479
Speaker 1: shown you what he can do in a committee backfield,

1564
01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,639
Speaker 1: which is what this backfield will be if Brita, Moss

1565
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:39,600
Speaker 1: and Singletary are all a part of it. Yeah, I

1566
01:24:39,680 --> 01:24:41,160
Speaker 1: think it's going to be a tough row to hoo for.

1567
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 1: It's for Christian Wade. It's a long way from not

1568
01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 1: playing to being at the top level. I mean, you

1569
01:24:50,280 --> 01:24:52,679
Speaker 1: got to look at it this way. The vast majority

1570
01:24:52,720 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: of the guys on the Bill's roster we're lining up

1571
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: and playing football about two years out of diapers. Yeah,

1572
01:24:59,439 --> 01:25:02,960
Speaker 1: this guy's been playing organized football at the highest level

1573
01:25:03,560 --> 01:25:06,479
Speaker 1: for two years. Yeah. And you say, well, what's the difference.

1574
01:25:06,520 --> 01:25:08,599
Speaker 1: It's a big guy. He's got some. Yeah, he's he's

1575
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,560
Speaker 1: got some. He's got ability's no question. And I and

1576
01:25:11,640 --> 01:25:14,240
Speaker 1: I said, the stinks when he came back. When he

1577
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 1: came on, I thought his position would translate to the

1578
01:25:20,439 --> 01:25:23,599
Speaker 1: NFL better than maybe other positions would from other sports,

1579
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: because you know, you get put the ball in his hands,

1580
01:25:25,000 --> 01:25:27,639
Speaker 1: la run. Well. The problem is, even at running back

1581
01:25:27,680 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: in the NFL, there's a lot of stuff you gotta

1582
01:25:30,160 --> 01:25:31,920
Speaker 1: be able to do when you don't have the ball.

1583
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: That's where I think he falls behind. Pass protection. Yeah,

1584
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:42,720
Speaker 1: um formations, route running, reading keys and looking at the

1585
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: defense and doing one thing, if they're in this and

1586
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:49,760
Speaker 1: doing another if they're in that. Just you know, it's

1587
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:52,479
Speaker 1: a lot to learn. And I doesn't say he can't

1588
01:25:52,479 --> 01:25:54,240
Speaker 1: do it. I maybe I could. Possibly, I could be

1589
01:25:54,320 --> 01:25:56,360
Speaker 1: completely wrong. I know he's going to give it his

1590
01:25:56,439 --> 01:25:58,800
Speaker 1: best ever. And he's been a phenomenal guy and a

1591
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: great teammate. R He's just been great and at every

1592
01:26:02,520 --> 01:26:05,160
Speaker 1: at every turn. But he is running out of time.

1593
01:26:05,200 --> 01:26:07,000
Speaker 1: And to go up against a guy like Matt Breda,

1594
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's that's that's a big ask. It's a

1595
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:13,639
Speaker 1: big ask for anybody, let alone Yeah, in Christian way,

1596
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,519
Speaker 1: it's a big ass for any of these draft picks,

1597
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:19,519
Speaker 1: you know, let alone Christian Wade. We have to take

1598
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 1: a break, but when we come back, we're going to

1599
01:26:21,360 --> 01:26:24,599
Speaker 1: answer this question, what's your opinion of taking a center

1600
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:28,880
Speaker 1: slash interior old alignment with the thirtieth overall pick. Steve

1601
01:26:28,920 --> 01:26:31,439
Speaker 1: and I will address the question coming from Jeremy next

1602
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,880
Speaker 1: here on One Bill's Live presented by Kalota Health, It's

1603
01:26:33,920 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio Ty to answer the question from Jeremy

1604
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:52,960
Speaker 1: on the obl fan mail bag, what's your opinion of

1605
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,760
Speaker 1: taking a center slash old lineman with the thirtieth pick.

1606
01:26:56,560 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: If the value is right, I'm not opposed to it

1607
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:03,600
Speaker 1: at all. In round one, it's more likely that you

1608
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,599
Speaker 1: get a tackle than you would an interior offensive lineman.

1609
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:08,960
Speaker 1: But the Bills did that in two thousand and nine

1610
01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:12,280
Speaker 1: when they drafted Eric Wood, who was a center slash guard.

1611
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I think it was the twenty sixth pick, their second

1612
01:27:15,320 --> 01:27:17,519
Speaker 1: of two first round selections, the first of whom I'm

1613
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 1: not going to mention. I will never criticize an offensive

1614
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:22,880
Speaker 1: line pick. Oh yeah, you're all about I'm all about it.

1615
01:27:23,240 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 1: Everybody gets better when your offensive line gets better. Yea.

1616
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,760
Speaker 1: And the way they sit with their skill positions. Offensively,

1617
01:27:32,520 --> 01:27:36,360
Speaker 1: the fastest way to get your football team better is

1618
01:27:36,439 --> 01:27:40,400
Speaker 1: to improve your offensive line in every such almost every situation,

1619
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 1: unless you've already got a dominant offensive line. That's the

1620
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,479
Speaker 1: only way too, So I'll never that's a great idea. Yeah,

1621
01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:50,120
Speaker 1: Elijah Vera Tucker is probably the only INTERI I mean,

1622
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:52,360
Speaker 1: some people think he could play tackle. He's got thirty

1623
01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:54,880
Speaker 1: two and an eighth inch arms, maybe better for guard.

1624
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,479
Speaker 1: He's probably going to be an All Pro guard in

1625
01:27:56,520 --> 01:27:58,800
Speaker 1: this league. He is definitely going to be going in

1626
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:01,400
Speaker 1: the first round, and he's probably off the board before

1627
01:28:01,439 --> 01:28:03,800
Speaker 1: the Bills are on the clock at thirty. Then you

1628
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:08,679
Speaker 1: have Landon Dickerson, the Alabama guard slash center who unfortunately

1629
01:28:08,720 --> 01:28:11,560
Speaker 1: at an ACL injury in the conference title game, the

1630
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 1: SEC title game, and so when is he going to

1631
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:17,519
Speaker 1: be ready? What does the medical say? He may slipped

1632
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:21,439
Speaker 1: around two because of that very issue, knowing what a

1633
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:25,639
Speaker 1: medical hang up the whole pre draft process has been.

1634
01:28:26,479 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 1: You have Alex Leatherwood, his teammate, who was tackled but

1635
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:34,880
Speaker 1: probably projects to guard. Some people think he can play

1636
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 1: tackle though, and that guy's wild beast at six four,

1637
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,560
Speaker 1: three hundred and twelve pounds. So those are probably the

1638
01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: guys at the guard position that you would consider in

1639
01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:50,560
Speaker 1: round one. As far as center, the general consensus is

1640
01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:54,720
Speaker 1: it's Creed Humphrey and everybody else, the Oklahoma center and

1641
01:28:54,880 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: pivot guy at six four, three hundred two pounds, and

1642
01:28:57,960 --> 01:29:00,920
Speaker 1: he's widely considered to be a second round pick. So

1643
01:29:01,439 --> 01:29:04,280
Speaker 1: you're picking thirtieth, so right, you're almost in the second

1644
01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,680
Speaker 1: round already. That's I can live with that. If it's

1645
01:29:06,680 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: a guy who you think is going to have a

1646
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:11,160
Speaker 1: really nice pro career, take him four or five picks earlier,

1647
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 1: two or ten picks early even particularly if you're thirtieth.

1648
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 1: We're not talking from number two overall from twelve. We're

1649
01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:22,040
Speaker 1: talking thirty tote. So I have no problem with that.

1650
01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:25,599
Speaker 1: And that guy's been playing center since his senior year

1651
01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 1: of high school, So greed. Humphrey played center his senior

1652
01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:32,840
Speaker 1: year of high school. Four star high school recruit goes

1653
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 1: to Oklahoma Red Shirts and then play center for the

1654
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 1: next three years and has thirty seven starts there at

1655
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:42,439
Speaker 1: the college level at a school that turns out offensive

1656
01:29:42,520 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: lineman like it's going out of style. I mean, the

1657
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:47,479
Speaker 1: Bills have two former Oklahoma alignment on their starting offensive line,

1658
01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: and Darryl Williams and Cody Ford. So you want to

1659
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,040
Speaker 1: add another, I'm not against it, not with his track

1660
01:29:54,120 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: record and body of work. I'm yeah, I would. I

1661
01:29:57,120 --> 01:29:59,519
Speaker 1: don't care if they take six offensive linemen in this draft.

1662
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:03,680
Speaker 1: I would not bat I would be like, wow, that

1663
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:06,599
Speaker 1: is a smart thing. You live in the hyperbole worlds.

1664
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,559
Speaker 1: I do, I really do. I think they're gonna take

1665
01:30:09,640 --> 01:30:11,679
Speaker 1: one at least, if not two, And I think they're

1666
01:30:11,680 --> 01:30:14,479
Speaker 1: gonna take They're gonna take an offensive line in a

1667
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:16,479
Speaker 1: corner and they're gonna take an edge rusher. Where those

1668
01:30:16,520 --> 01:30:18,160
Speaker 1: guys end up and where they trade up or down

1669
01:30:18,200 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 1: to get him is a you know who knows, but

1670
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I and they may take a tackle as well. They

1671
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,920
Speaker 1: might because yes, you know, they got Jamil Douglas in

1672
01:30:29,080 --> 01:30:32,760
Speaker 1: free agency, but he's played mostly guard, so you have

1673
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:38,599
Speaker 1: Forrest Lamp and Jamil Douglas largely depth players or maybe

1674
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 1: challenge for a starting job at the guard positions. Lamp

1675
01:30:41,200 --> 01:30:44,280
Speaker 1: will challenge. I think, yes, but you don't have the

1676
01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: swing tackle um Ty and Secky signed with Dallas. But no,

1677
01:30:50,720 --> 01:30:54,120
Speaker 1: he's unproven. I could see them drafting an offensive tackle,

1678
01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:56,800
Speaker 1: and it's a good draft for tackles, so I could

1679
01:30:56,800 --> 01:30:59,479
Speaker 1: totally see that. Patrick from the mail Bag says, am

1680
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:02,639
Speaker 1: I raw to have high expectations of running back Matt Brida.

1681
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,640
Speaker 1: I've always loved to speed at running back, and I

1682
01:31:04,680 --> 01:31:06,920
Speaker 1: think he gives them something they don't have. I've heard

1683
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,960
Speaker 1: some people say he is probably not even gonna dress

1684
01:31:09,040 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: on game day. I say, save a draft pick for

1685
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:16,120
Speaker 1: offensive line, etc. So he's responding to all of the

1686
01:31:16,360 --> 01:31:19,560
Speaker 1: running back talk at the bottom of round one, and

1687
01:31:20,439 --> 01:31:23,439
Speaker 1: you know he's saying, Matt Brida's your home run guy,

1688
01:31:24,680 --> 01:31:27,080
Speaker 1: and I would agree. I totally agree, and I would

1689
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,200
Speaker 1: I would choose offense over another running back any day

1690
01:31:30,240 --> 01:31:32,400
Speaker 1: of the week. They only had two offen. They only

1691
01:31:32,439 --> 01:31:34,320
Speaker 1: had two running backs active for the most part last

1692
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:37,080
Speaker 1: year that were actual running backs. Now, Taiwan Jones and say,

1693
01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 1: we're special teams, special teams guy, but it was it

1694
01:31:40,080 --> 01:31:44,160
Speaker 1: was Moss and Singletary, t J. Yelden didn't wasn't active

1695
01:31:44,240 --> 01:31:46,280
Speaker 1: until one of those guys went down, right, And the

1696
01:31:46,360 --> 01:31:49,439
Speaker 1: reason why is because they were dressing six receivers every

1697
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,680
Speaker 1: game day. So you got a rob from Peter to

1698
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: pay Paul. I think that will continue, and I do too.

1699
01:31:54,720 --> 01:31:57,639
Speaker 1: So do you want to draft a first round running

1700
01:31:57,640 --> 01:31:59,639
Speaker 1: back when you know you're only gonna addressed too somebody.

1701
01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:02,040
Speaker 1: That means one of those three are sitting every single week.

1702
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 1: If Matt Breeda sits, is it as big a deal

1703
01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: as if your first round draft pick sits? Good point,

1704
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, so, think about think about the pressure, and

1705
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:15,320
Speaker 1: you can dress eight offensive linemen now right on a

1706
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:18,880
Speaker 1: game day. Let's not forget that either. Yeah, it's just

1707
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,519
Speaker 1: you're gonna we're gonna speak it into existence. I am

1708
01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:24,200
Speaker 1: I am of a mind. I've heard, you know, we

1709
01:32:24,280 --> 01:32:27,320
Speaker 1: get out of here and show Mike Chopin and the

1710
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:30,280
Speaker 1: Bulldog come on and and they like they just like

1711
01:32:30,400 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 1: are totally full court press. They will absolutely jump off

1712
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:35,960
Speaker 1: a building if the Bills pick up a running back

1713
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,600
Speaker 1: at thirty. I'm kind of with him, not kind of

1714
01:32:38,680 --> 01:32:40,960
Speaker 1: with him. I am totally with him. I am not

1715
01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:45,720
Speaker 1: picking Travis atn Bulldog is all about Travis em I'm

1716
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:48,439
Speaker 1: not picking any of those guys. He is on the train. Okay,

1717
01:32:48,560 --> 01:32:50,760
Speaker 1: he's the conductor a right, but I am not. I am,

1718
01:32:50,840 --> 01:32:53,760
Speaker 1: so you are not with him. Just to make it absolutely,

1719
01:32:53,960 --> 01:32:57,360
Speaker 1: I don't care if if he drops to ninety three,

1720
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:02,080
Speaker 1: take him. That's not gonna happen. I'm not taking him

1721
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 1: at sixty four or sixty one, sixty Why do I

1722
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 1: keep doing that. I'm not taking him at sixty one,

1723
01:33:06,640 --> 01:33:09,120
Speaker 1: and I'm not taking him at thirty thirty. I'm not

1724
01:33:09,200 --> 01:33:12,600
Speaker 1: taking Naji Harris at thirty or sixty one. I'm not

1725
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:18,479
Speaker 1: taking Jim Brown at thirty or sixty one. Maybe sixty one.

1726
01:33:18,520 --> 01:33:24,519
Speaker 1: I'd take him. I'm teasing, yeah, but you get my point.

1727
01:33:24,680 --> 01:33:27,760
Speaker 1: I just you are hyperbole. Steve Tasker, take I'd take

1728
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:30,559
Speaker 1: two offensive linemen before I'd take a running back. Yeah,

1729
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:33,920
Speaker 1: at those picks, because the running listening third round running

1730
01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:36,320
Speaker 1: back at ninety three will play better behind two those

1731
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,360
Speaker 1: two offensive linemen than Naji Harris or at N will

1732
01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:42,240
Speaker 1: play behind air. Your point is well taken, and I

1733
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:45,400
Speaker 1: think if there is a knock on Etn, it's that

1734
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:52,759
Speaker 1: his inside running is not very good. He falls into

1735
01:33:52,840 --> 01:33:56,360
Speaker 1: the trap that a lot of very talented running backs

1736
01:33:56,400 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 1: fall into at the college level, which is, well, why

1737
01:33:58,760 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: am I going to stick it up in there when

1738
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:02,840
Speaker 1: I can bounce it outside and get twelve yards? And

1739
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:05,760
Speaker 1: I understand that thinking, But then you get to the

1740
01:34:05,880 --> 01:34:08,800
Speaker 1: NFL and you try to bounce everything and you're getting

1741
01:34:09,040 --> 01:34:12,799
Speaker 1: one yard, and it's like, oh, that doesn't work anymore.

1742
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,439
Speaker 1: I wish I had a little more practice running inside

1743
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:17,960
Speaker 1: and sticking it through creases and getting four yards, because

1744
01:34:18,000 --> 01:34:20,000
Speaker 1: four yards is a good run in the NFL. I

1745
01:34:20,040 --> 01:34:24,200
Speaker 1: don't need a bouncer outer. I'm just gonna say there

1746
01:34:24,280 --> 01:34:26,240
Speaker 1: was another guy the Bills drafted in the first round

1747
01:34:26,280 --> 01:34:28,960
Speaker 1: that was a bouncer. His name was CJ. Spiller. Yeah,

1748
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:32,479
Speaker 1: and CJ. Spiller is Travis Etn's running backs coach. Yeah,

1749
01:34:32,520 --> 01:34:34,720
Speaker 1: I don't need at Clempson. I don't need a bouncer outer.

1750
01:34:35,880 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: All right, we have to take a break here. Speaking

1751
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:42,439
Speaker 1: of running backs, we have another one coming your way.

1752
01:34:42,920 --> 01:34:46,160
Speaker 1: It is UB running back Jared Patterson, who figures to

1753
01:34:46,240 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: go somewhere on day three of the draft. We catch

1754
01:34:49,560 --> 01:34:51,720
Speaker 1: up with the UB running back next here on One

1755
01:34:51,800 --> 01:34:55,120
Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by a Collada Health It's Buffalo Bill's

1756
01:34:55,240 --> 01:35:16,720
Speaker 1: Draft Radio at a Steve Tasker who has been all

1757
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,880
Speaker 1: over the field. Kind of unique. He was kind of

1758
01:35:18,880 --> 01:35:24,479
Speaker 1: a dual role player for you, Steve, Steve a blimp.

1759
01:35:25,320 --> 01:35:32,040
Speaker 1: We're not even in the stragedyre of normalcy here. Welcome

1760
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,479
Speaker 1: back our number three of One Bills Live. Chris Brown,

1761
01:35:35,560 --> 01:35:38,479
Speaker 1: Steve Tasker with you in time for us to catch

1762
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:41,400
Speaker 1: up with a running back prospect who will hear his

1763
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: name called I Believe Somewhere on day three of the

1764
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:49,080
Speaker 1: NFL Draft. It is the Mac offensive player of the

1765
01:35:49,160 --> 01:35:52,000
Speaker 1: Year for I Believe two years running now and a

1766
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: guy who rushed for over a thousand yards in just

1767
01:35:55,640 --> 01:35:59,599
Speaker 1: seven games last season. It is you be running back

1768
01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:06,000
Speaker 1: Jared Patterson, who caught up with Steve and myself. Hey, Jared,

1769
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,360
Speaker 1: thanks very much for giving us some time. We appreciate it.

1770
01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 1: We know it's brisy this time here for guys that

1771
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 1: are in the draft pool. Um, I guess that is

1772
01:36:13,880 --> 01:36:16,120
Speaker 1: the first question I've got for you. How busy has

1773
01:36:16,160 --> 01:36:18,840
Speaker 1: it been, you know, with these zoom meetings that you

1774
01:36:18,920 --> 01:36:21,600
Speaker 1: can have with teams and stuff like that, along with

1775
01:36:21,960 --> 01:36:24,920
Speaker 1: you know, maybe last second workouts and things of that nature.

1776
01:36:25,000 --> 01:36:27,720
Speaker 1: How busy has the run up been here these last

1777
01:36:27,760 --> 01:36:31,640
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, it's kind of it's kind of

1778
01:36:31,720 --> 01:36:34,559
Speaker 1: died down now, you know, uh, you know, it's getting

1779
01:36:34,600 --> 01:36:37,360
Speaker 1: closer to the draft, But before that was kind of busy.

1780
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,840
Speaker 1: You know. Some day as I have you know, like

1781
01:36:40,120 --> 01:36:43,240
Speaker 1: workouts and I have up to four virtual meetings with

1782
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,960
Speaker 1: teams a day, but it's kind of, you know, it's

1783
01:36:46,040 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of down down. I get a call here and there,

1784
01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:50,040
Speaker 1: you know, asking about is this gonna be a draft

1785
01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:52,840
Speaker 1: day number? Or where are you gonna be at watching

1786
01:36:52,920 --> 01:36:54,880
Speaker 1: the draft and things like that. But you know, the

1787
01:36:55,200 --> 01:36:58,840
Speaker 1: the experience has been everything I expected, you know it

1788
01:36:59,000 --> 01:37:00,640
Speaker 1: was going to be. So I'm just thankful to be

1789
01:37:00,720 --> 01:37:03,519
Speaker 1: in this position. What have what have the team's been

1790
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:05,759
Speaker 1: telling you about when you could expect to be drafted?

1791
01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:08,160
Speaker 1: What kind of level. I note you get different messages

1792
01:37:08,200 --> 01:37:11,160
Speaker 1: from different teams. What are you expecting if it went

1793
01:37:11,400 --> 01:37:13,439
Speaker 1: just like you expected to go, what's it gonna look

1794
01:37:13,479 --> 01:37:17,880
Speaker 1: like on draft day? Yeah, I mean I kind of heard,

1795
01:37:17,960 --> 01:37:20,160
Speaker 1: you know, everywhere. It's kind of been all over the place,

1796
01:37:20,680 --> 01:37:22,719
Speaker 1: and you you know, I really don't really pay attention

1797
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:26,560
Speaker 1: to it. You know, my mindset is, uh, whatever opportunity,

1798
01:37:26,800 --> 01:37:30,800
Speaker 1: you know, knocks at my door, I'm gonna take full

1799
01:37:30,800 --> 01:37:33,640
Speaker 1: aventas of it. And you know, I just heard you know,

1800
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:35,400
Speaker 1: third or fourth round, FID front, sixth rounds. So it's

1801
01:37:35,439 --> 01:37:37,000
Speaker 1: kind of everywhere. So you just gotta have an open

1802
01:37:39,080 --> 01:37:40,960
Speaker 1: and you know, just just be thankful for if you

1803
01:37:41,040 --> 01:37:45,160
Speaker 1: get that phone call one of those draft days. Now,

1804
01:37:45,360 --> 01:37:47,800
Speaker 1: I know that you know you and there's a you know,

1805
01:37:47,880 --> 01:37:50,560
Speaker 1: there's been a much publicized story about how you and

1806
01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: your brother kind of decided you were going to be

1807
01:37:52,360 --> 01:37:55,000
Speaker 1: a package deal coming out of high school. Um, I

1808
01:37:55,120 --> 01:37:57,519
Speaker 1: know Ken State was the first to offer you guys,

1809
01:37:57,560 --> 01:38:00,160
Speaker 1: and then Buffalo jumped in soon there after, and you

1810
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:03,880
Speaker 1: guys decided on on Buffalo. But I'm curious, like, what

1811
01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,360
Speaker 1: kind of salesman were you guys in high school? Like,

1812
01:38:06,760 --> 01:38:09,160
Speaker 1: in terms of selling yourselves as a package deal. That's

1813
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:12,080
Speaker 1: a bold move. How how were you guys as salesman?

1814
01:38:12,120 --> 01:38:15,280
Speaker 1: I'm very curious how you were in the room. Yeah,

1815
01:38:15,439 --> 01:38:18,600
Speaker 1: we were. We were crazy. You know. It was you know,

1816
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:22,040
Speaker 1: our high school coach. Uh, you know, both our high

1817
01:38:22,040 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: school closure at the time. Where access are you guys? Sure?

1818
01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:26,920
Speaker 1: You know because we lost a lot of a lot

1819
01:38:27,000 --> 01:38:29,519
Speaker 1: of offers because we wanted to go to school together.

1820
01:38:29,960 --> 01:38:32,040
Speaker 1: We always knew that, you know, that was always the plan,

1821
01:38:32,600 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, and you know, like like like always sold

1822
01:38:34,840 --> 01:38:36,840
Speaker 1: coaches and if you know, all my brother, don't don't

1823
01:38:36,880 --> 01:38:38,760
Speaker 1: waste your time even talking to me and danged the

1824
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,760
Speaker 1: same thing because we already had had that set that

1825
01:38:41,840 --> 01:38:44,320
Speaker 1: we wanted to go to the saying university together. And

1826
01:38:44,479 --> 01:38:48,400
Speaker 1: so how crazy will it be now? Because you know, James,

1827
01:38:48,479 --> 01:38:50,560
Speaker 1: as I understand it, has decided to go back for

1828
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,840
Speaker 1: his senior season. You're obviously coming out a year early.

1829
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,519
Speaker 1: How weird is it going to be being in a

1830
01:38:56,600 --> 01:39:02,800
Speaker 1: football environment without your your twin other. I don't think

1831
01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:05,720
Speaker 1: it's gonna be too too too much you know, uh

1832
01:39:06,000 --> 01:39:09,000
Speaker 1: too much weird for me because uh, at the end

1833
01:39:09,000 --> 01:39:11,600
Speaker 1: of the day, you know, I'm chasing my dream, you know,

1834
01:39:11,720 --> 01:39:14,439
Speaker 1: and and when when I was, you know, deciding on

1835
01:39:14,840 --> 01:39:17,080
Speaker 1: should I even come out or not, he was the

1836
01:39:17,160 --> 01:39:19,720
Speaker 1: first person that kind of recommended me that you need

1837
01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:21,800
Speaker 1: to leave. You need to you know, go go to

1838
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:24,920
Speaker 1: the next level and declare so because we always talk,

1839
01:39:25,000 --> 01:39:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, every day on the phone and things like that,

1840
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:29,080
Speaker 1: and me doing this, I feel like I open up

1841
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:30,599
Speaker 1: a lot of doors for you know, when it's when

1842
01:39:30,640 --> 01:39:32,920
Speaker 1: it's his time. Before we start talking to you about

1843
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,479
Speaker 1: the end of this draft this season, give us a

1844
01:39:35,640 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: quick a quick summary of your experience at University at Buffalo. Yeah,

1845
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:45,960
Speaker 1: it's been nothing, but you know, great memories. You know

1846
01:39:46,000 --> 01:39:50,600
Speaker 1: I got there the Jane Ward, I great shirred it.

1847
01:39:50,920 --> 01:39:53,160
Speaker 1: You know. I just remember coming in, you know, seeing

1848
01:39:53,200 --> 01:39:57,080
Speaker 1: guys like Tyree Jackson, you know, Anthony Johnson, Khalil Hodds,

1849
01:39:57,720 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, all the James O'Hagan and and just really

1850
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 1: glad to be a part of that that great program,

1851
01:40:04,080 --> 01:40:05,320
Speaker 1: you know at the time they were up and coming,

1852
01:40:05,400 --> 01:40:08,320
Speaker 1: you know, coach coach Lancelopolt his staff. You know, I

1853
01:40:08,439 --> 01:40:10,840
Speaker 1: came in as a freshman and graceful. I played, you know,

1854
01:40:11,000 --> 01:40:14,000
Speaker 1: right away on stets of teams. Then, uh, you know,

1855
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:16,200
Speaker 1: I got got in the backfield and they saw what

1856
01:40:16,280 --> 01:40:19,200
Speaker 1: I can do and kind of you know emerge, you know, uh,

1857
01:40:19,360 --> 01:40:22,680
Speaker 1: immerging the backfield. But it's been nothing but great experiences

1858
01:40:23,080 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 1: at the University of Buffalo and that's like basically my

1859
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: home from home. And how is it going to feel,

1860
01:40:28,400 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 1: Jared to be the next name in the line of

1861
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: draft choices that have come out of you know, the

1862
01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:38,200
Speaker 1: University of Buffalo. I mean, Khalil Mack really put you

1863
01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 1: guys on the map being a top ten pick, but

1864
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 1: there've been a lot of other guys that have been

1865
01:40:42,960 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: drafted out of that school. How is it going to

1866
01:40:45,640 --> 01:40:50,120
Speaker 1: feel to be the next in that line so to speak. Yeah,

1867
01:40:50,120 --> 01:40:53,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be It's gonna feel uh great. It's gonna

1868
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:55,880
Speaker 1: be an honor you know. Uh, like you said, guys

1869
01:40:55,920 --> 01:40:58,360
Speaker 1: like Khalil Mack, you know that I'm definitely I definitely

1870
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,599
Speaker 1: want to you know, I'm chasing him and the guys

1871
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,000
Speaker 1: that got drafted at out of university. And it's just

1872
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:06,920
Speaker 1: good for our program that that that people can go

1873
01:41:07,200 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 1: to the next level, you know, in the map conference,

1874
01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:11,680
Speaker 1: the group of five, and it just it looks good

1875
01:41:11,720 --> 01:41:14,240
Speaker 1: for recruiting and just things like that. I'm just I'm

1876
01:41:14,320 --> 01:41:16,519
Speaker 1: just grateful to being this physician to show that the

1877
01:41:16,640 --> 01:41:18,960
Speaker 1: guys that's gonna come after me that it doesn't matter

1878
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,360
Speaker 1: where you go, you can, you know, achieve your dreams.

1879
01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:25,120
Speaker 1: What is your gut feeling about, maybe give us a

1880
01:41:25,200 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: top two or three or four or however many you

1881
01:41:27,240 --> 01:41:30,360
Speaker 1: think teams that we can look for to be thinking

1882
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:32,439
Speaker 1: about you or whatever round they may pick you in

1883
01:41:32,920 --> 01:41:35,479
Speaker 1: what may be handful of teams, or have you had

1884
01:41:35,560 --> 01:41:37,800
Speaker 1: the most contact with or you have the best feeling about.

1885
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:41,800
Speaker 1: It's hard to say, you know, I mean, I'm in

1886
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:45,080
Speaker 1: constant uh, you know, communication with the forty nine ers,

1887
01:41:45,720 --> 01:41:49,400
Speaker 1: you know, the Patriots, you know Atlanta. It's just so many,

1888
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:51,759
Speaker 1: you know, because it's just you know, you hear stories

1889
01:41:51,760 --> 01:41:54,560
Speaker 1: about you know, you're talking to those those teams on

1890
01:41:54,720 --> 01:41:57,400
Speaker 1: a constant basis. But a team that you haven't even

1891
01:41:57,479 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 1: talked to or just once can pick you up, you know.

1892
01:42:00,479 --> 01:42:02,640
Speaker 1: So you just got to have an open mind, you know,

1893
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:05,360
Speaker 1: and just whatever team you know gives you that call,

1894
01:42:06,120 --> 01:42:08,280
Speaker 1: you'd be ready, you know, when we step on a

1895
01:42:08,320 --> 01:42:12,280
Speaker 1: facility from day one and then Jared, let's just review

1896
01:42:12,400 --> 01:42:14,760
Speaker 1: this past season quickly, because there was a lot of

1897
01:42:14,840 --> 01:42:16,920
Speaker 1: doubt as to whether it was even going to happen,

1898
01:42:17,479 --> 01:42:20,320
Speaker 1: and you knew it was going to be an important

1899
01:42:20,439 --> 01:42:23,639
Speaker 1: year for you. How much were you wringing your hands

1900
01:42:23,760 --> 01:42:27,760
Speaker 1: over whether a there would even be a season be

1901
01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,040
Speaker 1: once there was a season, if it was going to

1902
01:42:30,120 --> 01:42:32,519
Speaker 1: be able to continue in some way, shape or form.

1903
01:42:32,560 --> 01:42:34,400
Speaker 1: I mean, ultimately it did get cut short. It was

1904
01:42:34,439 --> 01:42:38,640
Speaker 1: only six games, But maybe just walk me through your mindset,

1905
01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:41,000
Speaker 1: knowing this was a big year for you and there

1906
01:42:41,120 --> 01:42:43,559
Speaker 1: was a lot of uncertainty before you hit the field,

1907
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: and now coming out on the other side of it,

1908
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:49,280
Speaker 1: making as much of it as you possibly could, you know,

1909
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: putting up some career numbers in terms of yards per

1910
01:42:51,640 --> 01:42:56,120
Speaker 1: carry average and stuff like that. Yeah, it was a

1911
01:42:56,200 --> 01:42:59,439
Speaker 1: frustrating time, not just for myself, but you know, the

1912
01:42:59,520 --> 01:43:02,720
Speaker 1: whole team, not the uncertainty. You know, he was one

1913
01:43:02,760 --> 01:43:05,960
Speaker 1: of the first conferences to cancel our season. You know,

1914
01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:07,880
Speaker 1: guys will just you know, wonder what we're gonna do,

1915
01:43:07,960 --> 01:43:10,840
Speaker 1: or we're gonna play in the springtime and things like that.

1916
01:43:11,760 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 1: You know, it just it just was that that was amazing,

1917
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: you know season. I mean, it wasn't quite how he

1918
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 1: wanted to finish but just we got those six games,

1919
01:43:20,760 --> 01:43:22,880
Speaker 1: and you know what I was able to do with

1920
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,679
Speaker 1: those with the short amount of games was was amazing.

1921
01:43:25,720 --> 01:43:27,320
Speaker 1: And I wish we had a full season just to

1922
01:43:27,400 --> 01:43:30,160
Speaker 1: see what the numbers would have looked like with a

1923
01:43:30,240 --> 01:43:35,679
Speaker 1: full season. But you know, uh, it's crazy to see

1924
01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:37,960
Speaker 1: like myself and a few guys on my team and

1925
01:43:38,120 --> 01:43:40,200
Speaker 1: other guys around the my conference, how we came together

1926
01:43:40,640 --> 01:43:42,880
Speaker 1: and kind of just pushed, you know, to bring it back,

1927
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:44,760
Speaker 1: and you know, we had meetings with the commissioner and

1928
01:43:45,080 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: and things like that. I thought it was pretty cool

1929
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: that you know, we kind of came together to you know,

1930
01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:53,400
Speaker 1: push form action and and football to come back. Where

1931
01:43:53,479 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 1: will you be and who will you be with? On

1932
01:43:56,080 --> 01:44:01,080
Speaker 1: draft Day? Yeah, So I head home the twenty ninth

1933
01:44:01,120 --> 01:44:03,040
Speaker 1: in the morning, back in Maryland while I'm from and

1934
01:44:03,120 --> 01:44:05,519
Speaker 1: just watch it with the family, you know, those three

1935
01:44:05,640 --> 01:44:07,560
Speaker 1: days and just you know, see see just take it

1936
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,120
Speaker 1: all in and just see, you know, if I could

1937
01:44:10,120 --> 01:44:12,080
Speaker 1: get that call, and you know, if I do, you know,

1938
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:14,639
Speaker 1: it's it's uh, it's got time. You know, I'm ready

1939
01:44:15,320 --> 01:44:18,680
Speaker 1: h to to to you know, Chase my dream. And

1940
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:20,559
Speaker 1: I always said, it's not how you get in it's

1941
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:24,760
Speaker 1: how you stay in So yeah, and the draft is

1942
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:28,040
Speaker 1: going to be held in a big Mid American conference city.

1943
01:44:28,080 --> 01:44:30,200
Speaker 1: It's going to be in Cleveland, So maybe that's a

1944
01:44:30,280 --> 01:44:32,680
Speaker 1: good sign for you, Jared and everybody else from the

1945
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,200
Speaker 1: Mid American Conference that is in the draft pool. Look,

1946
01:44:35,280 --> 01:44:37,639
Speaker 1: we wish you nothing but the best of luck here.

1947
01:44:38,280 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 1: Uh so, we hope everything goes well and we hope

1948
01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,840
Speaker 1: you're not waiting too long for your name to get

1949
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: called on draft weekend. Best of luck to you. Thanks

1950
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,920
Speaker 1: for spending some time with us. Thanks Jared, thanks so much.

1951
01:44:50,000 --> 01:44:52,880
Speaker 1: Thanks for having me. All right, that's you be. Running

1952
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 1: back Jarrett Patterson who was able to join us on

1953
01:44:55,840 --> 01:45:00,400
Speaker 1: the line and U only six games, not seven. Six games,

1954
01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:03,800
Speaker 1: ran for one thousand yards last year, average seven point

1955
01:45:03,880 --> 01:45:08,600
Speaker 1: six yards to carry nineteen touchdowns in each of the

1956
01:45:08,720 --> 01:45:11,640
Speaker 1: last two seasons. Steve, he had fifty two touchdowns in

1957
01:45:11,760 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 1: three seasons. Just a great UB career, a great UB career,

1958
01:45:16,640 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 1: historic really, I mean you remember the game he had

1959
01:45:19,120 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: like four hundred and eight yards rushing, had a great

1960
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: team around him, great offensive line around him, and there

1961
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:28,040
Speaker 1: was and he was just a lot of fun to watch.

1962
01:45:28,840 --> 01:45:31,280
Speaker 1: Really caught the attention for a lot of people were

1963
01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:33,920
Speaker 1: here in Western New York for the UB program and

1964
01:45:34,040 --> 01:45:39,080
Speaker 1: that was it was seven. It was was a spectacular career. Yeah,

1965
01:45:39,120 --> 01:45:41,880
Speaker 1: that four hundred nine yard rushing game that he had

1966
01:45:42,160 --> 01:45:45,639
Speaker 1: helped him set the FBS record for the most combined

1967
01:45:45,760 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 1: rushing yards in back to back games, seven hundred ten yards,

1968
01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:54,160
Speaker 1: eclipsing the mark previously held by Ricky Williams in nineteen

1969
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 1: ninety eight of six hundred and sixty eight yards. He

1970
01:45:56,600 --> 01:46:01,080
Speaker 1: had seven hundred and ten in two games. That is awesome.

1971
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:04,040
Speaker 1: Good for him. I hope, hope he turns into a

1972
01:46:04,120 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: nice pro career. Yeah, and uh, just and you know

1973
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,160
Speaker 1: the thing about him, he's he's five eight two bills.

1974
01:46:11,280 --> 01:46:13,479
Speaker 1: He's five six and a half. Okay, he's five six

1975
01:46:13,520 --> 01:46:17,240
Speaker 1: and a half two bills, um, and the only the

1976
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: only thing and you can say five six hal But

1977
01:46:19,640 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: you know there's been other guys, short guys in the

1978
01:46:22,479 --> 01:46:26,400
Speaker 1: league like that, right, there's a ton of well Danny

1979
01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 1: Woodhead was Yeah he wasn't five six, but you know

1980
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,679
Speaker 1: he wasn't five nine either. No, but two hundred pounds

1981
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,920
Speaker 1: packs some punch. And the thing that it's not his

1982
01:46:38,040 --> 01:46:39,880
Speaker 1: height that really would hold him back at his speed

1983
01:46:39,920 --> 01:46:42,439
Speaker 1: and he's he wish he was about two steps faster

1984
01:46:42,560 --> 01:46:46,479
Speaker 1: than forty. And what helps Patterson is he's built low

1985
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 1: to the ground, so he's got great contact balance. Yeah,

1986
01:46:49,640 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 1: it's great balance, and I mean he's got he's got

1987
01:46:54,479 --> 01:46:57,439
Speaker 1: pistons for legs. Man, I mean he just drives through

1988
01:46:57,520 --> 01:47:00,439
Speaker 1: contact and he put low to the ground. Can't get

1989
01:47:00,479 --> 01:47:02,679
Speaker 1: a clean shot on him. Yeah, he can hide behind

1990
01:47:02,680 --> 01:47:04,760
Speaker 1: the offensive lineman kind of pop out. I don't know,

1991
01:47:05,360 --> 01:47:07,559
Speaker 1: really didn't really need. In his highlights. You never don't

1992
01:47:07,600 --> 01:47:09,400
Speaker 1: see him catching the ball very much. They're handing it

1993
01:47:09,479 --> 01:47:12,000
Speaker 1: to him. So he'll have that to prove when he

1994
01:47:12,000 --> 01:47:14,000
Speaker 1: gets to a pro camp, you know, running routes and

1995
01:47:14,080 --> 01:47:16,800
Speaker 1: getting separation and catching the ball. But good for him.

1996
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:18,880
Speaker 1: We wish him the best and it's gonna be fun

1997
01:47:18,920 --> 01:47:21,080
Speaker 1: to watch. One of the players that in the NFL

1998
01:47:21,160 --> 01:47:24,599
Speaker 1: that he gets compared to is the Dolphins running back

1999
01:47:24,640 --> 01:47:27,639
Speaker 1: who actually won the starting job last year. Miles Gaskin

2000
01:47:28,160 --> 01:47:30,240
Speaker 1: is a guy that he gets compared to. Right, I

2001
01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 1: don't think he has the speed that Gaskin has well,

2002
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,639
Speaker 1: but he could be the same under the radar type

2003
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:37,679
Speaker 1: player that I'm not saying he's gonna win a starting

2004
01:47:37,760 --> 01:47:39,600
Speaker 1: job in the NFL, but I think he's got a

2005
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 1: good chance to stick on the right kind of roster. Yeah,

2006
01:47:42,720 --> 01:47:44,920
Speaker 1: he's he's a little bit of a Darren Sprowles kind

2007
01:47:44,960 --> 01:47:47,720
Speaker 1: of guy, you know, really small back, although you know,

2008
01:47:47,800 --> 01:47:51,960
Speaker 1: like I say, Sprowles was faster, but obviously he's got

2009
01:47:52,000 --> 01:47:54,160
Speaker 1: a skill set and he can carry the ball. You know,

2010
01:47:54,240 --> 01:47:56,240
Speaker 1: he's not a fumbler or anything like that. I mean,

2011
01:47:56,280 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 1: the guy's he's gonna cost whoever he goes. Hes gonna

2012
01:48:00,280 --> 01:48:03,320
Speaker 1: get an opportunity, absolutely no doubt about it. And he's

2013
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,240
Speaker 1: gonna be one of those guys when they get into

2014
01:48:05,280 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 1: those personnel meetings as a coaching status, like what are

2015
01:48:07,439 --> 01:48:11,360
Speaker 1: we gonna do with him? Say, man, can't cut him yet,

2016
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:13,920
Speaker 1: you know right, I mean they're just waiting for the

2017
01:48:13,960 --> 01:48:16,040
Speaker 1: thing like he's probably when's he gonna falter, when's he

2018
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:17,800
Speaker 1: gonna do this? He's gonna you know, you know, if

2019
01:48:17,840 --> 01:48:20,599
Speaker 1: he gets out there, doesn't make any mental mistakes, grasps everything,

2020
01:48:20,640 --> 01:48:22,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna be a hard guy to get rid of.

2021
01:48:22,400 --> 01:48:25,760
Speaker 1: He's just one of those pesky guys that survivors. Yeah,

2022
01:48:25,920 --> 01:48:29,080
Speaker 1: we'll see be interesting to see where he goes presumably

2023
01:48:29,200 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: somewhere on Day three, as he's projected as a fifth

2024
01:48:33,320 --> 01:48:39,000
Speaker 1: or sixth round draft projection. Back to the OBIL fan

2025
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 1: mail bag here on Friday, and John has a question

2026
01:48:43,640 --> 01:48:48,160
Speaker 1: for Steve specifically, Steve, do you think Thurman made a

2027
01:48:48,200 --> 01:48:50,519
Speaker 1: big enough impact to push you over to make it

2028
01:48:50,640 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. Zach and Devin are good, but

2029
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:57,160
Speaker 1: not great enough to make an impact to push us

2030
01:48:57,200 --> 01:49:00,439
Speaker 1: into the super Bowl in my opinion. That's from well,

2031
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,040
Speaker 1: but I know you're talking about running backs Zach Moss,

2032
01:49:04,120 --> 01:49:08,080
Speaker 1: Devin Singletary versus Thurman Thomas. It's not really apples to

2033
01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:12,439
Speaker 1: apples the offensive scheme that Thurman was running in. Yes,

2034
01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:15,400
Speaker 1: his contribution put us over the top to get to

2035
01:49:15,439 --> 01:49:17,040
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. You can go back to the fifty

2036
01:49:17,120 --> 01:49:19,760
Speaker 1: one to three game against the Raiders and you get

2037
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 1: just look at the first series, that's the guy. But

2038
01:49:22,600 --> 01:49:25,240
Speaker 1: he was the engine that drove the engines. Isn't that

2039
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:28,160
Speaker 1: the difference here? Exactly? He was the centerpiece of that

2040
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:30,479
Speaker 1: offense because he could catch, he could pass, protect, and

2041
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,680
Speaker 1: of course he could run the football. He was a

2042
01:49:33,240 --> 01:49:36,160
Speaker 1: every down back short yardage, goal line, although he came

2043
01:49:36,200 --> 01:49:38,320
Speaker 1: off a lot of times in goal line for Kenny

2044
01:49:38,439 --> 01:49:40,200
Speaker 1: Davis just because it was a nice way to get

2045
01:49:40,320 --> 01:49:44,320
Speaker 1: him a rep off the field. But Thurmantom, absolutely, Thurman

2046
01:49:44,360 --> 01:49:47,280
Speaker 1: Thomas was the engine of the offense. Devin Singletary, Zach

2047
01:49:47,360 --> 01:49:51,040
Speaker 1: Moss as good as they could play, possibly their complimentary

2048
01:49:51,240 --> 01:49:54,000
Speaker 1: it's it's about Josh and the and the four wides.

2049
01:49:54,520 --> 01:49:57,640
Speaker 1: That's what this offense is about. So it's it's not

2050
01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:00,080
Speaker 1: really comparing the same thing. But to your question, the

2051
01:50:00,160 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: point of your question, yes, Thurman was the difference that

2052
01:50:02,520 --> 01:50:03,960
Speaker 1: put us over the top to get to the super

2053
01:50:04,000 --> 01:50:08,559
Speaker 1: Bowl four times. But saying that Devon and Zach aren't

2054
01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,880
Speaker 1: good enough, you're not giving them enough credit for, you know,

2055
01:50:12,000 --> 01:50:13,800
Speaker 1: just what they're asked to do. They're not asked to

2056
01:50:13,880 --> 01:50:16,600
Speaker 1: be the engine of the offense like Thurman was. And

2057
01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:19,479
Speaker 1: uh so, you know, you can't really put that on

2058
01:50:19,560 --> 01:50:22,200
Speaker 1: them because they're not Thurman Thomas. They're never even gonna

2059
01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,200
Speaker 1: be put in a position in the scope of how

2060
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:27,559
Speaker 1: this offense is currently drawn up to have a whiff

2061
01:50:27,840 --> 01:50:31,000
Speaker 1: at being an NFL MVP like Thurman was. I mean, right,

2062
01:50:31,479 --> 01:50:33,759
Speaker 1: you know, that's a good point. That's a good point. Thurman,

2063
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,320
Speaker 1: you know, led the league in yardage from scrimmage four

2064
01:50:36,360 --> 01:50:37,519
Speaker 1: years in a row. Is he only got to ever

2065
01:50:37,600 --> 01:50:43,400
Speaker 1: do it at the at the time and he was, Yeah,

2066
01:50:44,040 --> 01:50:45,559
Speaker 1: I mean the guy's in the Hall of Fame because

2067
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,760
Speaker 1: he was the engine. He was that guy. I don't

2068
01:50:48,800 --> 01:50:50,760
Speaker 1: think our two guys on the back and ever going

2069
01:50:50,800 --> 01:50:52,360
Speaker 1: to be asked to be that, right, They've never been.

2070
01:50:52,439 --> 01:50:53,920
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be asked to carry the load like

2071
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: Thurman was. I go back and look at some of

2072
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 1: the old you know, and let me put finger quotes

2073
01:50:57,479 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 1: up videos of our games. It was shocking the pounding

2074
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:07,320
Speaker 1: that Thurman took in a data on a week to

2075
01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:10,240
Speaker 1: week basis. And you know, I don't remember remember missing

2076
01:51:10,280 --> 01:51:13,519
Speaker 1: a game unless he was unless he was out during

2077
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,320
Speaker 1: a game or whatever. I don't even remember missing practice.

2078
01:51:16,760 --> 01:51:19,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, it's a different world. But like I said,

2079
01:51:19,920 --> 01:51:24,040
Speaker 1: you can't really ask the role or compare the role

2080
01:51:24,120 --> 01:51:26,640
Speaker 1: to Devon and Zach Devin Singletary Zach Mooss have for

2081
01:51:26,640 --> 01:51:29,000
Speaker 1: the Bills today with the one that Thurman carried back then,

2082
01:51:29,080 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 1: because Thurman was a higher percentage of the touches from Rick.

2083
01:51:34,680 --> 01:51:37,599
Speaker 1: Why is it a priority for the NFL to change

2084
01:51:37,720 --> 01:51:41,800
Speaker 1: rules around to favor the losing team for the on

2085
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:46,120
Speaker 1: side kick seems unfair to the winning team to me better, Yet,

2086
01:51:46,360 --> 01:51:49,000
Speaker 1: why is the NFL rewarding the special teams coach for

2087
01:51:49,080 --> 01:51:51,960
Speaker 1: not being creative on getting on side kicks? All right,

2088
01:51:52,040 --> 01:51:54,559
Speaker 1: this is a multilayered question here, right, First of all,

2089
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:58,120
Speaker 1: they tabled the fourth and fifteen, so it was not

2090
01:51:58,280 --> 01:52:02,519
Speaker 1: approved or passed in any way perform that being the option,

2091
01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 1: the rule proposal gives teams behind on the scoreboard the

2092
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:08,720
Speaker 1: option to take a fourth and fifteen play at their

2093
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Speaker 1: own twenty five yard line instead of trying an onside's kick.

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01:52:12,080 --> 01:52:14,040
Speaker 1: But why don't you, since you're the expert in the

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01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:17,120
Speaker 1: priority for the NFL to change the rules around to

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01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:19,080
Speaker 1: favor the losing team on the onside kick. I don't

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01:52:19,080 --> 01:52:20,960
Speaker 1: know how you. I don't know where you see the

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01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 1: favoring the I think he's saying you're already giving them

2099
01:52:24,360 --> 01:52:26,600
Speaker 1: the ball in a fourth and fifteen situation instead of

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01:52:26,640 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 1: having to earn the right to get a procession and

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Speaker 1: an on side kick. Or is he talking about the

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01:52:30,320 --> 01:52:32,639
Speaker 1: on side kick? Well, that's the second layer. Let's deal

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01:52:32,680 --> 01:52:34,560
Speaker 1: with the first part, which is why is it a

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01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,800
Speaker 1: priority for the NFL to change rules around to favor

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01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:39,960
Speaker 1: the losing team and the onside the fourth and fifteen.

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01:52:40,040 --> 01:52:41,760
Speaker 1: Here's the thing. The reason we're talking about this is

2107
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:44,320
Speaker 1: because the league has made it almost impossible for the

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01:52:44,439 --> 01:52:46,800
Speaker 1: losing team to have any advantage at all, any chance

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01:52:46,880 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: at all. That's why we're doing this so right and

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01:52:49,280 --> 01:52:51,560
Speaker 1: part of his first thing about leaving losing team on

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01:52:51,600 --> 01:52:53,960
Speaker 1: the side. The losing team has absolutely no shot on

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01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:56,559
Speaker 1: onside kick now. And the reason why is because if

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01:52:56,600 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 1: the new rules they put in saying you can't line

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01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:02,519
Speaker 1: get certain number players outside the numbers, you can only

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01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 1: have a certain number of players on each side of

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01:53:04,120 --> 01:53:06,000
Speaker 1: the ball. They used to be able to you want

2117
01:53:06,040 --> 01:53:08,080
Speaker 1: to put ten guys on this side of the ball

2118
01:53:08,120 --> 01:53:10,280
Speaker 1: on an onside kick, go ahead and do it. The

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01:53:10,360 --> 01:53:15,360
Speaker 1: problem was that was creating I cringing collisions on the

2120
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:18,040
Speaker 1: field and it was not in the interest of safety

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01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:21,200
Speaker 1: for the players. So they've since passed rules Like Bobby

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01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:23,519
Speaker 1: April had the Kamikaze play when he was a special

2123
01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:25,680
Speaker 1: team's coach of the Bills, and they would get the

2124
01:53:25,720 --> 01:53:28,200
Speaker 1: onside kick almost every time because they throw eight guys

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01:53:28,280 --> 01:53:30,559
Speaker 1: at the ball, and they said we got to take

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01:53:30,640 --> 01:53:34,360
Speaker 1: that out. Yeah, the on the old time on back

2127
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,599
Speaker 1: in my day, the old onside kick was a tree grinder.

2128
01:53:36,720 --> 01:53:38,800
Speaker 1: I mean, you were jumping into a tree grinder. So

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01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:42,680
Speaker 1: they got They put rules in to prevent the likelihood

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01:53:42,680 --> 01:53:45,960
Speaker 1: of teams getting on side kicks by spreading players out

2131
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:48,560
Speaker 1: so you didn't have a fifteen car pile up on

2132
01:53:48,600 --> 01:53:51,919
Speaker 1: an onside kick. That was the that was the effect.

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01:53:52,120 --> 01:53:54,800
Speaker 1: The reason they did it was because guy's getting concussed, yeah,

2134
01:53:55,000 --> 01:53:57,599
Speaker 1: all the time on on side kicks, so they tend

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01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:00,080
Speaker 1: to change it. They weren't. The unintended consequence was the

2136
01:54:00,160 --> 01:54:03,280
Speaker 1: success rate of getting on sidekicks. Why the kicking team

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01:54:03,560 --> 01:54:05,960
Speaker 1: went dramatically down to the point where it's now about

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01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:08,280
Speaker 1: three percent. Yeah, and they wanted it about it Back

2139
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 1: in the day, it was about They wanted about fourteen

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01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 1: to sixteen percent right in there, and they just weren't

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01:54:14,560 --> 01:54:18,760
Speaker 1: getting that. So that's why and and so, and you're

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01:54:18,760 --> 01:54:22,400
Speaker 1: talking about why the NFL is rewarding the NFL Special

2143
01:54:22,439 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 1: teams coaches for not being creative on getting an onside kick.

2144
01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:29,799
Speaker 1: You you're limited. You're limited. You're the rules are limiting

2145
01:54:29,840 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: you as to where you can put your guys, so

2146
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,080
Speaker 1: guys can be as creative as they want. But they

2147
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:38,720
Speaker 1: can't line up like that, and that precludes the ability

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01:54:38,840 --> 01:54:41,320
Speaker 1: to get one. No matter how creative you want to be,

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01:54:41,520 --> 01:54:43,720
Speaker 1: the rules say you can only be you have to

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01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:45,560
Speaker 1: be within these realms where you can only line this

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01:54:45,640 --> 01:54:47,360
Speaker 1: many guys up here, this many guys up there, and

2152
01:54:47,400 --> 01:54:49,800
Speaker 1: you gotta line this many guys up over here. You

2153
01:54:49,960 --> 01:54:52,600
Speaker 1: can't get it. It's only two guys outside the numbers

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01:54:52,720 --> 01:54:56,120
Speaker 1: right on each side. That's the maximum, right, two guys

2155
01:54:56,200 --> 01:54:59,360
Speaker 1: outside the numbers on an onside's kick or on any kickoff,

2156
01:54:59,600 --> 01:55:02,280
Speaker 1: two guys outside the numbers. Now you have the and

2157
01:55:02,400 --> 01:55:05,040
Speaker 1: you have to have five guys aside, right, or a

2158
01:55:05,200 --> 01:55:11,480
Speaker 1: maximum of five guys aside, So you can't overload. You can't.

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01:55:12,440 --> 01:55:15,920
Speaker 1: They've really restricted the creativity level. I remember Bobby April

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01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 1: was hot as a firecracker when they put these in.

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01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:22,560
Speaker 1: I remember talking to him. I was doing an interview

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01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 1: with him for Buffalo Bills dot Com and he's like,

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01:55:25,520 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 1: they put this in because of our Kamikaze play. We

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01:55:28,760 --> 01:55:31,880
Speaker 1: have that play where basically all they did was they

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01:55:31,880 --> 01:55:35,880
Speaker 1: would huddle up behind the ball. Ryan Lindell would line

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01:55:35,960 --> 01:55:38,720
Speaker 1: up to kick first, and they would break out of

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01:55:38,800 --> 01:55:42,040
Speaker 1: this ball of players and just run right behind Lindell,

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01:55:42,120 --> 01:55:43,720
Speaker 1: and as soon as he kicked it, they'd weigh ten

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01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:46,120
Speaker 1: yards and they'd all ten guys would jump on the ball.

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Speaker 1: And they got two on side kicks that way in

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01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:50,880
Speaker 1: one season. And he's like, that's why they took it out.

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01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:55,560
Speaker 1: They took it out because we were successful. That's right, true, Bobby.

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01:55:55,680 --> 01:55:58,200
Speaker 1: They took it out because four guys got concussions. Right.

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Speaker 1: Think about it. You're stand in there thirty feet away

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01:56:01,680 --> 01:56:07,600
Speaker 1: from eleven NFL players, and you're standing there ten yards away,

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01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: ten yards away, thirty feet They got a ten yard run,

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01:56:11,880 --> 01:56:14,000
Speaker 1: so they're they're actually, you know, they're more than that.

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01:56:14,040 --> 01:56:18,920
Speaker 1: They're they're twenty yards. They're the distance. Right, they start

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01:56:19,120 --> 01:56:22,280
Speaker 1: sprinting in a group, a small group, but all of

2180
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:26,280
Speaker 1: them are sprinting right towards you. The ball bounces towards you,

2181
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,720
Speaker 1: and you've got those guys trailing it as fast as

2182
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:32,160
Speaker 1: they can go. And the first three guys have no

2183
01:56:32,280 --> 01:56:34,280
Speaker 1: interest in the football. Their job is to take you

2184
01:56:34,360 --> 01:56:36,520
Speaker 1: out like a bowling ball, and you're the bowling pin.

2185
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:39,960
Speaker 1: You you're the target. You're you're nothing but a target.

2186
01:56:40,480 --> 01:56:44,720
Speaker 1: And three guys are gonna try and and obliterate you

2187
01:56:44,920 --> 01:56:47,320
Speaker 1: physically punish you so the guys behind them can get

2188
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:50,440
Speaker 1: the ball, and I don't want to if yeah, you're

2189
01:56:50,480 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna you're gonna get crushed physically beaten up by the

2190
01:56:54,240 --> 01:56:56,000
Speaker 1: three guys doing it. And they you listen this just

2191
01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:58,400
Speaker 1: in they don't have five foot six inch, two hundred

2192
01:56:58,440 --> 01:57:00,440
Speaker 1: pound guys trying to do it. They got six four,

2193
01:57:00,520 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 1: two hundred and seventy five pound guys bearing down and

2194
01:57:02,960 --> 01:57:04,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna land on you and hit your heart. So

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01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:07,800
Speaker 1: that's that's what you're up against. A special teams guys.

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01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:12,160
Speaker 1: So you can understand why guys are getting concussed and

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01:57:12,320 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: why guys are like you know, and why the NFL

2198
01:57:14,440 --> 01:57:17,520
Speaker 1: to listen after that play they come in their balls

2199
01:57:17,560 --> 01:57:20,120
Speaker 1: in there loose boom at twelve yards pass where he

2200
01:57:20,240 --> 01:57:23,320
Speaker 1: kicks it of the twenty two guys on the field,

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01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:29,280
Speaker 1: fifteen of them or on that pile, and you just

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01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,480
Speaker 1: you're just waiting to see, Okay, who's everybody getting who's

2203
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:35,360
Speaker 1: not getting up? And that's not where they want the

2204
01:57:35,400 --> 01:57:39,760
Speaker 1: sport together. The NFL saw solution being put in to

2205
01:57:39,800 --> 01:57:42,040
Speaker 1: spread them out, spread them out so they can't all

2206
01:57:42,280 --> 01:57:45,800
Speaker 1: converge in one area and smack all their skulls together.

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01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,680
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds so that's kind of the answer.

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01:57:48,960 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 1: I can laugh at it now because you know, but

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01:57:52,080 --> 01:57:54,400
Speaker 1: twenty five years, you know, after my career, I can

2210
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:56,240
Speaker 1: kind of laugh about it. It was no laughing matter.

2211
01:57:56,920 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 1: I mean, you and I and I'm talking about Bobby April.

2212
01:58:00,440 --> 01:58:02,560
Speaker 1: That's two thousand and four. I mean that's not even

2213
01:58:03,240 --> 01:58:05,400
Speaker 1: too far you know, I mean it's fifteen years ago now,

2214
01:58:05,480 --> 01:58:09,360
Speaker 1: but it's this century. Yeah, before they really started changing

2215
01:58:09,400 --> 01:58:12,360
Speaker 1: those rules you had. You're standing out there, You're you're

2216
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,720
Speaker 1: looking at those games. You're taking a deep breath and

2217
01:58:15,480 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 1: strapping up, swallowing hard and let's get Yeah, you're you're

2218
01:58:19,680 --> 01:58:23,960
Speaker 1: buckling up. So it's yeah, it was. It was a bull.

2219
01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:25,680
Speaker 1: It was like you know, getting in the shoot on

2220
01:58:25,720 --> 01:58:28,800
Speaker 1: top of a bull. You're it's gonna be a big riding.

2221
01:58:28,800 --> 01:58:30,120
Speaker 1: You don't know if you're rocking, you don't know if

2222
01:58:30,120 --> 01:58:33,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna work in front of them. Yeah, you're the clown. Yeah,

2223
01:58:33,320 --> 01:58:38,040
Speaker 1: you're the rodeo clown. You're the clown. Uh, that's where

2224
01:58:38,080 --> 01:58:41,240
Speaker 1: you are. It is. Yeah, and there's and there's eleven bulls. Yeah,

2225
01:58:41,280 --> 01:58:45,240
Speaker 1: so uh yeah, that's why it's it's it's player's safety,

2226
01:58:45,320 --> 01:58:46,800
Speaker 1: and then I guess that's the way to put it.

2227
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:51,760
Speaker 1: Uh to to Rick's question, player's safety has taken them

2228
01:58:51,800 --> 01:58:55,320
Speaker 1: down a path that they're still adjusting to. And you know,

2229
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:58,000
Speaker 1: the players are safer now, but now the game has

2230
01:58:58,080 --> 01:59:02,960
Speaker 1: become too predictable and the play is now a no win.

2231
01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,200
Speaker 1: So when a team is up with a certain amount

2232
01:59:05,200 --> 01:59:06,880
Speaker 1: of time, they want to make the game as exciting

2233
01:59:07,000 --> 01:59:09,200
Speaker 1: or in doubt as long as they can with the

2234
01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:12,360
Speaker 1: rule book, and they just can't do it with player safety.

2235
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:15,920
Speaker 1: There's it's hard to give the other team a chance.

2236
01:59:15,960 --> 01:59:20,280
Speaker 1: That doesn't look too easy, right, And they know, hey,

2237
01:59:20,520 --> 01:59:23,640
Speaker 1: the unintended consequence of making the kickoff play safer so

2238
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:27,160
Speaker 1: people aren't stumbling off after a kickoff or an onside kick,

2239
01:59:27,680 --> 01:59:30,840
Speaker 1: the unintended consequences the success rate of on side kicks

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01:59:31,120 --> 01:59:33,760
Speaker 1: has gone down dramatically. How do we fix that? So

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01:59:33,960 --> 01:59:36,240
Speaker 1: now they're saying, well, we know we can't go back

2242
01:59:36,520 --> 01:59:39,760
Speaker 1: to letting eleven guys pile into one area for an

2243
01:59:39,800 --> 01:59:43,680
Speaker 1: onside kick. We know that's unsafe. What is the alternative? Right?

2244
01:59:43,800 --> 01:59:46,200
Speaker 1: The fourth and fifteen play is what has been proposed,

2245
01:59:46,280 --> 01:59:49,360
Speaker 1: it's been tabled, hasn't been accepted, but they're trying to

2246
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:53,400
Speaker 1: find ways to make the onside kick recovery more likely.

2247
01:59:53,520 --> 01:59:56,240
Speaker 1: It's not going to happen on a kicking play. They're

2248
01:59:56,320 --> 01:59:58,920
Speaker 1: trying to institute it with a fourth and fifteen play

2249
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:04,120
Speaker 1: on offense. And that's that's their interim potential solution right now.

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Speaker 1: The purists will say, listen, you don't want to And

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02:00:06,800 --> 02:00:08,720
Speaker 1: when I was, I was at that kickoff SMIT when

2252
02:00:08,720 --> 02:00:11,920
Speaker 1: they changed all these rules and got a standing start

2253
02:00:11,960 --> 02:00:14,240
Speaker 1: from kickoffs instead of the old time when everybody run together.

2254
02:00:14,320 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: They changed all that. I was kind of it was

2255
02:00:15,920 --> 02:00:21,000
Speaker 1: in that room and the league from the highest up

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02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:25,160
Speaker 1: is seemed at that time maybe things changed. But at

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02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:28,520
Speaker 1: that time I was encouraged by the fact that listen,

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02:00:28,560 --> 02:00:31,000
Speaker 1: we are not going to take the foot out of

2259
02:00:31,040 --> 02:00:33,680
Speaker 1: the game. We're gonna leave the kickoffs, and they were

2260
02:00:33,680 --> 02:00:36,200
Speaker 1: gonna think about taking a kickoff off the table completely.

2261
02:00:36,560 --> 02:00:39,920
Speaker 1: So we are committed to keeping it three phases, a

2262
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:44,400
Speaker 1: kicking game, an offense, and a defensive phase. And so

2263
02:00:44,560 --> 02:00:48,600
Speaker 1: that was kind of encouraging. So they're finding ways, trying

2264
02:00:48,640 --> 02:00:51,920
Speaker 1: to find ways, creative ways to keep the onside kick

2265
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,520
Speaker 1: in the game, to keep the kicking team involved in

2266
02:00:54,640 --> 02:00:57,280
Speaker 1: that play, in that scenario, in that in that aspect

2267
02:00:57,360 --> 02:01:00,240
Speaker 1: of the game. So they're committed to that. But this

2268
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:02,320
Speaker 1: fourth and fifteen, if it we were passed, that would

2269
02:01:02,360 --> 02:01:05,440
Speaker 1: take that completely out of the game. So we have

2270
02:01:05,520 --> 02:01:07,400
Speaker 1: to step aside here. But when we come back a

2271
02:01:07,520 --> 02:01:10,880
Speaker 1: few more of your OBL mail bag questions on the

2272
02:01:10,960 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 1: tweet sheet as we have questions about Tremaine Edmonds and

2273
02:01:17,400 --> 02:01:21,440
Speaker 1: about a position besides quarterback at pick thirty that you

2274
02:01:21,640 --> 02:01:24,560
Speaker 1: wouldn't take. Steve and I will answer those when we

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Speaker 1: return here on One Bills Live, presented by Kalid to Health,

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio this round. Steve Tasker with you

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. Rachel and the mailbag says, if we

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02:01:46,760 --> 02:01:49,000
Speaker 1: decide to ignore our positional needs and just take the

2279
02:01:49,040 --> 02:01:51,200
Speaker 1: best player available on our draft board to pick thirty,

2280
02:01:51,280 --> 02:01:53,840
Speaker 1: is there any position besides quarterback that you wouldn't take

2281
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:56,600
Speaker 1: or is everything on the table if the player is

2282
02:01:56,640 --> 02:02:00,320
Speaker 1: good enough. That's kind of the spirit of best player available. Yeah,

2283
02:02:00,600 --> 02:02:02,760
Speaker 1: I mean, you tell, if the guy has the grade

2284
02:02:03,640 --> 02:02:06,600
Speaker 1: and there's nobody else within a whisker of him in

2285
02:02:06,800 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 1: terms of draft grade at a position of need, you

2286
02:02:09,320 --> 02:02:12,640
Speaker 1: take the best player regardless of position. I think what

2287
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:16,000
Speaker 1: I would do. I would also go back in your

2288
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:18,360
Speaker 1: pre draft prep and say which position would we not

2289
02:02:18,520 --> 02:02:20,880
Speaker 1: take guys? Who is it? And it might be for

2290
02:02:20,960 --> 02:02:23,000
Speaker 1: the Bills, it might be safety. They've got two safeties

2291
02:02:23,160 --> 02:02:26,520
Speaker 1: locked up to long term deals, just signed extensions, that

2292
02:02:26,640 --> 02:02:29,560
Speaker 1: kind of thing. They're starters, Pro Bowl caliber players, and

2293
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:32,080
Speaker 1: you're not. You might need a back up, but you're

2294
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:36,080
Speaker 1: not going to do that. If you've got veteran, solid,

2295
02:02:36,160 --> 02:02:39,040
Speaker 1: proven players are that you're deep at and are signed

2296
02:02:39,160 --> 02:02:43,080
Speaker 1: long term, that's a position to me that's off the table.

2297
02:02:44,240 --> 02:02:46,040
Speaker 1: That's a position to mean it's off the table. You've

2298
02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:48,640
Speaker 1: got to have someplace else where at least, say, for instance,

2299
02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:50,680
Speaker 1: like a defensive end where you've got two guys that

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Speaker 1: are long in the tooth Jerry Hughes, Mario Addison and

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Speaker 1: the last year their deals. Even if you know that's

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Speaker 1: a position, you might take another fly or even you've

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02:03:00,240 --> 02:03:02,120
Speaker 1: drafted a guy at thirty to do that, you might

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02:03:02,200 --> 02:03:04,800
Speaker 1: take another flyer rather than take a guy. Or you've

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Speaker 1: got two guys that are not going anywhere for at

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02:03:07,120 --> 02:03:09,600
Speaker 1: least two and a half years. You have plenty of

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02:03:09,680 --> 02:03:11,880
Speaker 1: time to you know, to get that done you know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Patriots in that position too. J C.

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Speaker 1: Jackson and Stefan Gilmour, both in the last two years

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Speaker 1: of their deal, really good corners, starters. But what are

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Speaker 1: you doing next year? They have two tackles in the

2312
02:03:24,000 --> 02:03:27,040
Speaker 1: same boat, Trent Brown Isaiah Win. They're two starting tackles

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02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:30,040
Speaker 1: one years one year left on Isaiah Wins rookie deal

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02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 1: and Trent Brown on a one year situation after the

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02:03:33,160 --> 02:03:36,800
Speaker 1: trade with the Raiders. So I mean you're looking there.

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Speaker 1: That's that. It comes down to where your team long

2317
02:03:40,360 --> 02:03:44,640
Speaker 1: term is set in your at least theoretically. I mean,

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02:03:44,680 --> 02:03:47,280
Speaker 1: anything can happen, the guy gets injured. But but where

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02:03:47,320 --> 02:03:49,560
Speaker 1: you sit on draft Day, you got you got lined up,

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02:03:49,600 --> 02:03:52,800
Speaker 1: you got your whatever position, guys you really like who

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Speaker 1: are really playing well, and they're they're locked up. Then

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02:03:56,920 --> 02:03:59,600
Speaker 1: you go from there. Where are your values? Right? You don't? Right?

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02:04:00,200 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 1: It's best player available, yeah, and for this team it's easy.

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02:04:04,400 --> 02:04:06,320
Speaker 1: I mean it just take best player available. There. It's

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02:04:06,360 --> 02:04:08,360
Speaker 1: gonna be hard for any rookie to come in and

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Speaker 1: really make an impact. So just get the best guy

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02:04:11,240 --> 02:04:13,600
Speaker 1: available and you'll be happy down the road that you

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02:04:13,720 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 1: got him. Nick says, has Tremaine Edmund's already proven that

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02:04:16,920 --> 02:04:18,480
Speaker 1: he is our guy for the long haul. Do you

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02:04:18,600 --> 02:04:20,200
Speaker 1: need to see more from him over the next year

2331
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,360
Speaker 1: or two before you feel comfortable locking him down long term?

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02:04:24,400 --> 02:04:26,960
Speaker 1: I say yes. I know a lot of people have

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02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:30,600
Speaker 1: problems with Tremaine. He's not a typical middle linebacker in

2334
02:04:30,600 --> 02:04:33,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. He's not a run and hitter. He's more

2335
02:04:33,200 --> 02:04:35,120
Speaker 1: of a a more of a space eater. You know,

2336
02:04:35,600 --> 02:04:38,160
Speaker 1: he's a guy that drops into coverage, comes up in

2337
02:04:38,200 --> 02:04:40,200
Speaker 1: the run. They don't like the way who plays the run.

2338
02:04:40,280 --> 02:04:42,320
Speaker 1: They think he has trouble getting off the blocks. I mean,

2339
02:04:42,360 --> 02:04:43,920
Speaker 1: we've heard all of these things. But let me just

2340
02:04:44,000 --> 02:04:45,280
Speaker 1: tell you this. The guy's in the Pro Bowl. And

2341
02:04:45,280 --> 02:04:47,800
Speaker 1: you say, well, it's a popularity contest only for the fans.

2342
02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:51,120
Speaker 1: They get one vote. There's three votes for every position.

2343
02:04:51,560 --> 02:04:56,440
Speaker 1: Fan vote, player vote, coaches vote, and you can't vote

2344
02:04:56,480 --> 02:04:58,800
Speaker 1: for your own teammates. You can't vote for your own teammates.

2345
02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:03,480
Speaker 1: Tremaine carries a lot of weight in the AFC about

2346
02:05:03,520 --> 02:05:07,080
Speaker 1: how he plays his spot from coaches and players, and

2347
02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:09,520
Speaker 1: that you know that's a guy. You got to take

2348
02:05:09,600 --> 02:05:12,880
Speaker 1: that into account. Teams really have a hard time lining

2349
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:16,880
Speaker 1: up against him, So yes, I think he's the guy.

2350
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:21,320
Speaker 1: Certainly the Bills play their defense, He's perfect for it

2351
02:05:21,720 --> 02:05:25,080
Speaker 1: because he's a big space eater, can cover a ton

2352
02:05:25,120 --> 02:05:28,440
Speaker 1: of ground. He can go sideline to sideline, no question

2353
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:33,320
Speaker 1: about it. He's long and and also he carries a

2354
02:05:33,400 --> 02:05:35,760
Speaker 1: lot of leadership ability. A lot of the guys look

2355
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:37,920
Speaker 1: to him and he comes through for him, and they

2356
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,720
Speaker 1: know who he is and they look to him and

2357
02:05:39,800 --> 02:05:43,120
Speaker 1: he is there. So he in a lot of ways

2358
02:05:43,200 --> 02:05:46,440
Speaker 1: has answered every question the Bills had about him when

2359
02:05:46,440 --> 02:05:48,440
Speaker 1: they drafted him, if there were any that drafted him

2360
02:05:48,480 --> 02:05:52,240
Speaker 1: that high. And I think other coaches and players around

2361
02:05:52,280 --> 02:05:55,640
Speaker 1: the league have confirmed that the Bills got the guy

2362
02:05:55,680 --> 02:05:58,800
Speaker 1: they want. Pete says, do you see the Bills drafting

2363
02:05:58,840 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: a player in Round one who who opted out of

2364
02:06:00,880 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 1: last season? Being that the film is limited, I think

2365
02:06:04,280 --> 02:06:07,760
Speaker 1: that depends. That's a case by case basis perfect. Like

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Speaker 1: here's an example. Let's just say a guy was a

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Speaker 1: one year starter and then opted out this year. Okay.

2368
02:06:19,360 --> 02:06:24,480
Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau, Miami pass rusher fifteen and a half sacks

2369
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:27,520
Speaker 1: in his only year as a starter in twenty nineteen

2370
02:06:27,960 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 1: for Miami, didn't play this past year. I don't know

2371
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 1: if they pass up a talent that impressive. I know

2372
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:42,440
Speaker 1: it's not a large body of work. It may slide

2373
02:06:42,520 --> 02:06:44,320
Speaker 1: him down your board a little, but I don't know

2374
02:06:44,360 --> 02:06:46,840
Speaker 1: if it keeps you from drafting him. Now, the question

2375
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:51,520
Speaker 1: Pete's asking is specifically in round one, pick ten overall,

2376
02:06:52,280 --> 02:06:56,800
Speaker 1: maybe not pick thirty. I don't think it's as much

2377
02:06:56,840 --> 02:07:00,440
Speaker 1: of a deterrent, do you no the opt out? No,

2378
02:07:00,640 --> 02:07:03,920
Speaker 1: and I don't. Yeah, there's some guys that are going

2379
02:07:03,960 --> 02:07:07,640
Speaker 1: to be in that mix, but the further down the

2380
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:09,480
Speaker 1: draft boards you go, the less and less of a

2381
02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:14,480
Speaker 1: factor it becomes so and at thirty it's a lot

2382
02:07:14,600 --> 02:07:16,320
Speaker 1: less than as she says that thirty is a lot

2383
02:07:16,400 --> 02:07:18,960
Speaker 1: less than it is in the top ten. Yeah, Adriana

2384
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:21,640
Speaker 1: asks why is Lamar ranked higher than Josh and the

2385
02:07:21,800 --> 02:07:25,480
Speaker 1: under twenty five rankings. I believe one of the online

2386
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,120
Speaker 1: sites did the top twenty five players under age twenty five.

2387
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:33,120
Speaker 1: Josh Allen was ranked second, Lamar Jackson was ranked first.

2388
02:07:33,480 --> 02:07:36,080
Speaker 1: So Adrian is asking why has Lamar ranked higher than

2389
02:07:36,160 --> 02:07:38,040
Speaker 1: Josh and the under twenty five rankings. I know he

2390
02:07:38,120 --> 02:07:40,960
Speaker 1: was MVP two years ago, but at this moment, is

2391
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:43,560
Speaker 1: there anyone who would choose Lamar over Josh as their

2392
02:07:43,600 --> 02:07:46,520
Speaker 1: teams starting quarterback teams are figuring out how to stop

2393
02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:50,160
Speaker 1: Lamar's legs and Josh is on another level as a passer.

2394
02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:52,760
Speaker 1: I agree with her, Yeah, and I think I would

2395
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:55,520
Speaker 1: take Josh over Lamar, wouldn't you? Absolutely? But I thinks

2396
02:07:55,720 --> 02:07:58,520
Speaker 1: as well, you can make the same argument for Lamar

2397
02:07:58,640 --> 02:08:01,560
Speaker 1: that we've made for Josh over the last three years

2398
02:08:01,680 --> 02:08:05,400
Speaker 1: is that Lamar's got a high ceiling if he begins

2399
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,360
Speaker 1: to throw the football better, at which he has not

2400
02:08:08,480 --> 02:08:09,880
Speaker 1: been asked to do very much. I mean, the guy

2401
02:08:09,920 --> 02:08:11,800
Speaker 1: was MVP. I mean, how much are they gonna change that?

2402
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:15,920
Speaker 1: So if as he develops as a passer, yeah, he doesn't.

2403
02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:17,800
Speaker 1: He's got a high ceiling, a higher ceiling as a

2404
02:08:17,880 --> 02:08:20,800
Speaker 1: runner than Josh does. And if he gets into the

2405
02:08:20,960 --> 02:08:23,680
Speaker 1: ballpark of where Josh is a thrower, then yeah, you've

2406
02:08:23,680 --> 02:08:26,360
Speaker 1: got an argument that Lamar's better. He's not there yet,

2407
02:08:26,560 --> 02:08:28,240
Speaker 1: but he hasn't had to be. They haven't asked him

2408
02:08:28,280 --> 02:08:31,160
Speaker 1: to be. And certainly, you know, Bills fans have their

2409
02:08:31,200 --> 02:08:33,920
Speaker 1: own slant on things, because you know, the Bills beat

2410
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:35,880
Speaker 1: those guys in the playoffs in the divisional round of

2411
02:08:35,880 --> 02:08:38,440
Speaker 1: the playoffs this last year, and they picked off Lamar

2412
02:08:38,520 --> 02:08:42,320
Speaker 1: to do it. But don't kid yourself, the Ravens were

2413
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 1: going in to tie it up when they picked him off.

2414
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:53,040
Speaker 1: So the Ravens are really good with Lamar. So one play,

2415
02:08:53,200 --> 02:08:55,040
Speaker 1: don't don't let that one play in the ending of

2416
02:08:55,120 --> 02:08:57,000
Speaker 1: that game. Getting your getting the way of how good

2417
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:59,280
Speaker 1: a guy you think Lamar? There are limitations to his

2418
02:08:59,480 --> 02:09:03,640
Speaker 1: passing game that Josh does not have. Um So I

2419
02:09:03,760 --> 02:09:07,120
Speaker 1: think maybe if we get through this year and his

2420
02:09:07,280 --> 02:09:11,040
Speaker 1: passing game still has not been diversified or expanded, you

2421
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 1: could argue that Lamar jackson ceiling is a lot closer

2422
02:09:14,800 --> 02:09:19,720
Speaker 1: to being realized than Josh Allen's ceiling. And I would

2423
02:09:20,200 --> 02:09:23,560
Speaker 1: I would say that Josh is a more complete quarterback

2424
02:09:24,040 --> 02:09:26,960
Speaker 1: than Lamar Jackson is. Right now, that's right, but as

2425
02:09:27,000 --> 02:09:31,280
Speaker 1: an individual who's more dangerous, and you know Josh is dependent,

2426
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:33,360
Speaker 1: you know he's got digs go basily. Now, you put

2427
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:36,440
Speaker 1: those guys on the same team with guys who aren't

2428
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 1: that complimentary for a quarterback, Like if you put Josh

2429
02:09:39,520 --> 02:09:41,680
Speaker 1: on the Baltimore Ravens with those receivers, maybe it's you know,

2430
02:09:41,760 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 1: maybe it's more of a maybe it's more of an

2431
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:49,160
Speaker 1: even even um an even swap. Yeah, but yeah, I

2432
02:09:49,240 --> 02:09:52,080
Speaker 1: mean the Bills offense. In my opinion, the Bills offense

2433
02:09:52,120 --> 02:09:53,840
Speaker 1: was better than Baltimo's last year, and Josh was a

2434
02:09:53,880 --> 02:09:57,080
Speaker 1: big reason why I would take him because, and I've

2435
02:09:57,120 --> 02:09:59,680
Speaker 1: told you this before, the league is built so that

2436
02:09:59,760 --> 02:10:03,080
Speaker 1: all ultimately you win with a guy that makes the

2437
02:10:03,160 --> 02:10:06,240
Speaker 1: throws from the pocket. The athleticism is awesome, you can

2438
02:10:06,360 --> 02:10:08,280
Speaker 1: use it, it keeps you live, engage, but ultimately you

2439
02:10:08,360 --> 02:10:09,800
Speaker 1: need a guy that can stand there and throw it,

2440
02:10:10,760 --> 02:10:13,840
Speaker 1: and Josh is better at that. Right now, I think

2441
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Speaker 1: the lamour is we want it to remind you that

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Speaker 1: tomorrow the latest episode of One Bill's Light will be

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Speaker 1: One Bills Live. But Steve and I do bring you

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2452
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2454
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Speaker 1: and this week it is the history of the sixty

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Speaker 1: first pick. I'll say the Bills draft in round two.

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2458
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Speaker 1: afternoon when the new episode drops. It's the last pre

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Speaker 1: draft special, if you will, of One Bill's Light. We

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Speaker 1: have to take a break here, but we will close

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Speaker 1: short time ago that the NFL has issued a memo

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Speaker 1: to their thirty two clubs which says the league and

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Speaker 1: the Players Association's medical experts will monitor the impact of

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Speaker 1: the following changes and consider additional modifications concerning vaccinations. The

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Speaker 1: NFL has basically, let me get to the front of

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Speaker 1: this here. I want to get to the first tweet,

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Speaker 1: so I have this right. They informed clubs it is

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Speaker 1: agreed with the NFLPA that effective immediately, fully vaccinated individuals

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Speaker 1: will be required to test weekly instead of daily, with

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Speaker 1: no re entry testing after travel and no quarantine if

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Speaker 1: identified as a high risk close contact her the source.

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Speaker 1: So this basically means other team employees such as coaches,

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Speaker 1: must get vaccinated or they'll lose their Tier one or

2492
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Speaker 1: two status and can't work directly with players. There is

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Speaker 1: still no agreement with the NFLPA on other offseason changes.

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Speaker 1: The NFL said it won't mandate vaccines for players, but

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Speaker 1: will continue to incentivize it. Right, Yeah, you can see

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Speaker 1: that coming a million miles away. Yeah, they want everybody

2497
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Speaker 1: to be vaccinated so that they don't have to spend

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Speaker 1: the money to get tested every all the time. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you have no idea they had a drive through testing

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Speaker 1: thing every single day for these players. I mean, one

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Speaker 1: hundred and fifty million dollars on testing last year. Let's

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Speaker 1: just put that on our bottom line instead of spending

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Speaker 1: it on that. I mean, I get it, and I

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Speaker 1: who knows. I mean despite what the players may say

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Speaker 1: or something, you know, them having to go through all

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Speaker 1: of that and wear masks and be separated from their

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Speaker 1: teammates and there and the peer pressure from the teammates

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Speaker 1: who did get vaccinated will start to play into it

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Speaker 1: as well. You can bet that they'll get one hundred

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Speaker 1: percent vaccination rate I think from the players eventually. Maybe

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Speaker 1: not right now, but when it starts to get into

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Speaker 1: training camp and all that stuff has to take place, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think. So it's gonna be very interesting to see

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Speaker 1: each step that it takes and how it morphs and

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Speaker 1: changes between now and training camp, and it'll do it

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Speaker 1: for us this week. Don't forget One Bill's Light on

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Speaker 1: your podcast platforms this weekend and next week. We will

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Speaker 1: see you for a draft week. Don't miss it.