1 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: This is the Jesse Kelly Show. It is the Jesse 2 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: Kelly Show. Another hour of the Jesse Kelly Show on 3 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday, all kinds of stuff. We're going 4 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: to talk more about government corruption here in just a moment. 5 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: That'll be spicy and fun. We'll make fun of the GOP. 6 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: That's always a good time. And we're about to get 7 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 1: so smart. And about eh half hour, about a half 8 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,760 Speaker 1: hour from now, Brandon Wicker's gonna come on, and let 9 00:00:41,840 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: me explain why I'm bringing him on. If you've listened 10 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: for a while, you know Brandon Wiker does foreign policy stuff. 11 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Donald Trump. In this foreign trip he's on with Saudi 12 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: Arabia and Katar at places like that, he's giving these 13 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 1: speeches and he's saying a lot of things and they 14 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: are significant internationally. In fact, I'm thinking about an hour 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,120 Speaker 1: from now doing a little talk about America in our 16 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,720 Speaker 1: foreign policy and things like that. But Donald Trump is 17 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: very very clearly realigning or attempting to realign, how America 18 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: is globally, how we conduct ourselves globally, how involved we 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: are globally, and there's a lot to tackle. So Brandon 20 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: Weikert's going to give us a heads up on what 21 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:36,880 Speaker 1: all is happening with Iran and Turkey and Syria and 22 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Israel and Qatar and Saudi Arabia and all these plays. 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,039 Speaker 1: We're going to discuss all that about a half hour 24 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: from now. We will be so smart. We'll rub it 25 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 1: in all of our friends' faces tomorrow about how smart 26 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: we are. So just get ready for that. Now. I 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: want to get to this Alana Goodman. She's a wonderful 28 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: reporter at the Free Beacon. She has a story out 29 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 1: about somebody we've talked about before on the show. His 30 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: name is Jigar Shaw. Jigar Shaw, and you see he 31 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: had a role. Joe Biden made him the Energy Energy 32 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 1: what did they call him? The Energy Loan Czar? The 33 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: Energy Loan Czar, What does that actually mean? He was 34 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: the director of the Department of Energy's Loan Program's office. 35 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: And it doesn't exactly take a genius to figure out 36 00:02:29,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: what that means. He's the guy who hands out a 37 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 1: million here, a millionaire. And let's be honest, it wasn't 38 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: a million here a millionaire, it was a billion here, 39 00:02:39,680 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: a billion there? Hey, who wants a billion? You want 40 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:47,079 Speaker 1: a billion? And You're not dumb. You know who he 41 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:51,360 Speaker 1: was giving that money to. Remember why communists? What communists 42 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: do with power? What two things do communists do with power? 43 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: Anyone who's listening to the show notes, what are the 44 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,680 Speaker 1: two things they do with power? Reward their friends, punish 45 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 1: their enemies. Communists believe in using power for two reasons. 46 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: Reward your friends, punish your enemies. This guy got in 47 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: there and he started grabbing as much of your money 48 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:20,240 Speaker 1: as humanly possible and throwing it at all these ridiculous 49 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 1: green energy scams that are out there, which makes it 50 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: so nakedly corrupt because where do all these quote green 51 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: energestion him use that word, the climate scam energy companies, 52 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: Where do they donate their money When they donate political donations, 53 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: roughly one thousand percent of their political donations go to 54 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat Party. The Democrat Party gets elected, and they 55 00:03:44,600 --> 00:03:47,680 Speaker 1: do what communists always do. They take your money, the 56 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: taxpayer money, and they hand it right back to the 57 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: climate commuy companies, who then in turn donate again to 58 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: the You understand the vicious, little ugly circle of corruption 59 00:03:57,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 1: we have here. Well, he's still longer at his current position. 60 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 1: Now he's over there in Europe trying to do the 61 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 1: same thing to the Europeans. I wanted to combine that 62 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: with something Sean Duffy said today. Remember Sean Duffy is 63 00:04:13,960 --> 00:04:17,600 Speaker 1: the Transportation Secretary. I've met Sean a couple times. Wonderful 64 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: human being, just wonderful family. Actually, Sean's great guy, a 65 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:27,280 Speaker 1: really great guy. And Sean said something about the trillion trillions, 66 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 1: trillions with a T that seemed to have disappeared. Here's 67 00:04:31,839 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 1: what he's twenty ten. 68 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 2: They passed the stimulus bill under the Obama era, and 69 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 2: then you had one point two trillion in the last Congress, 70 00:04:41,720 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: and so that's two trillion dollars over ten years. And 71 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: sometimes you look around the country and go, where did 72 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 2: two trillion dollars go? Where is all the infrastructure? Why 73 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: don't we have more? And I think it does a 74 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 2: lot of this money gets eaten up in again the 75 00:04:56,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 2: permitting and the consultants, and I want to see more 76 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 2: of the money go, you know. 77 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: To the money was stolen. And let me clarify, just 78 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: because you steal something legally, don't think that buys you 79 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: any benefit from me on fevery, because you know how 80 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: this works. As we've discussed many times before Congress Democrats 81 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: passed some big corrupt bill, the Inflation Reduction Act, And 82 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: in that bill, it's a trillion dollars with money for 83 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: this and money for that, and so we'll save five 84 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 1: hundred million dollars for solar panels. It was more that 85 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: we'll just call it five hundred million dollars for solar panels. 86 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: But that of course goes to a government department to 87 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:50,280 Speaker 1: hand out five hundred million dollars, and they'll look for qualified, 88 00:05:50,440 --> 00:05:55,440 Speaker 1: approved contractors who get that five hundred million dollars. In fact, 89 00:05:55,560 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: the government department may may even seek out some sort 90 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 1: of a DC area consultant. Hey, we have five hundred 91 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: million dollars that need to go to solar panel companies. 92 00:06:07,320 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: We definitely need a separate company to help us figure 93 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: out where to send that five hundred million dollars. And 94 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: what wouldn't you know it, my second cousin has a 95 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: consulting company. That's right, Chris, I know a guy. I 96 00:06:21,160 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: just happen to know a guy, and for a small 97 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 1: fee of one hundred million dollars, he will tell us 98 00:06:28,800 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: where to send the five hundred million dollars. And once 99 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: you get the money to the hundred and once you 100 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: get the money to the second cousin and he takes 101 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: his hundred million dollars off the top. Then he goes 102 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:43,159 Speaker 1: through and looks for his second cousin and his uncle 103 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: and his campaign donors, and he hands them your tax 104 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,680 Speaker 1: payer money. And yes, on the surface, a lot of 105 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: this stuff, I want to be clear, is perfectly legal 106 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: by the letter of the law. But don't think for 107 00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: a second it's anything anything better than outrun theft. You 108 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 1: have been robbed repeatedly by Washington DC. Remember Elon Musk. 109 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: Elon Musk did something. It might have been on Joe Rogan. 110 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 1: I'm not sure where it was, but he talked recently 111 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: about what he was discovering at DOGE and how the 112 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: money works and how essentially ninety cents of every dollar, 113 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: even the foreign aid stuff, the foreign aid stuff. You 114 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: might think that that money goes overseas. No no, no, no, no, no, 115 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: ninety cents of every dollar stays right in Washington, d C. 116 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: Remember that story. We touched on it a little bit 117 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: about the at what was it the African Development Office 118 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: or something stupid like that. And it doesn't take a 119 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: genius to figure out off the job of that office 120 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: is stuff help Africa, of course with your money, which 121 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: you'd never agreed to. But we did a help Africa, 122 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: except all the money just stayed here, and the money 123 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 1: that did go to Africa, most of it came right 124 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: back here. That's how it worked. Now that actually was 125 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:07,920 Speaker 1: a crime. In fact, the guys I believe already been 126 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: indicted or being indicted. I know he's being investigated. But 127 00:08:11,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: this is how Washington corruption works. And this brings me 128 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: to this little story here. Insider trading is something we've 129 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: discussed before. Insider trading. As far as far as Congress goes, 130 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: Congress sadly has a lot of control over our economy. 131 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,360 Speaker 1: They have a lot of sway over our economy. Things 132 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 1: they do, things they don't do. It makes certain sectors 133 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: of our economy go up, certain sectors go down. And 134 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 1: these people they know before we know. You're not in 135 00:08:46,520 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 1: these committee meetings. They know before we know, and they 136 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:55,280 Speaker 1: trade stocks to make money or avoid losing money before 137 00:08:55,320 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 1: you get the opportunity, before I get the opportunity. That's 138 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:01,720 Speaker 1: a violation of the law. If any if I have 139 00:09:01,880 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a inside knowledge, let's say I'm a big stockholder in Nike, 140 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: I'm not. But let's say I'm a big stockholder in Nike, 141 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 1: and maybe my brother feeds me some information that, hey, hey, Jesse, 142 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: I work for Nike, and let me tell you what. 143 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: They've got a new shoe coming out. Stock's about to 144 00:09:21,559 --> 00:09:25,719 Speaker 1: blow up. And let's say I sell a bunch of 145 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 1: stock or buy a bunch of stock because my brother, 146 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,200 Speaker 1: who works for Nike told me that I'm going to prison. 147 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 1: Did you know that that's illegal? Yet Congress does this 148 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,559 Speaker 1: all the time. There's a reason members of Congress routinely 149 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 1: beat the greatest financial consultants in the country. It's because 150 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,960 Speaker 1: they're insider trading. Mike Johnson, this is hilarious. He came 151 00:09:47,000 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: out and he said that he backs a bipartisan push 152 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: on banning congressional stock trading, but he stopped short of 153 00:09:59,280 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 1: promising a vote on it. That might be the most 154 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: Republican statement in the history of Republican statements. We should 155 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,560 Speaker 1: definitely ban this, and I might have a vote on it. 156 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean, probably not, but maybe we'll vote on it 157 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: one day, maybe after the election, we'll have a vote 158 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: on it. That might be the most gop thing in 159 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:24,720 Speaker 1: the world. These people are all thieves. In scumbags. And 160 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: this is why people get angry about politics. And it's 161 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: also why I call it the low T GOP. It's 162 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 1: not just because Mike Johnson and the rest of the 163 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: Republican Party have lower T levels than the average American 164 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 1: male that can be fixed with chalk. It's because these 165 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: people never had the guts to actually stand up to 166 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 1: DC corruption. In fact, Tim Burchett said something about DC 167 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 1: corruption in Congress. Before we get to Tim Burchett, let 168 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 1: me tell you about chalk. By the way, are you 169 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: taking your male Vitality stack? Are you taking your female 170 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: vitality stack? Are you full of energy and pep? Do 171 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: you feel good all the time? 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This is the Jesse Kelly Show. 182 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:50,680 Speaker 1: It is that Jesse Kelly Show. I am excited because 183 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Wikert is coming up about ten minutes from now, 184 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: and you are about to be so much smarter than 185 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: you already are I am too, Chris, not so much. 186 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:02,080 Speaker 1: But we can only do what we can do. That 187 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: is going to be fascinating. Tim Burchett, who I love, 188 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 1: Tennessee's own Tim Burchett. He was talking about Congress and 189 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 1: Trump's executive orders and here's what he says. 190 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:15,120 Speaker 3: Hey, everybody, Congers from Tim Burchett, I'm incredibly frustrated this 191 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:19,680 Speaker 3: morning after that we will seriously lose our country. We 192 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: have got to start codifying these executive orders from President Trump. 193 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: America realizes what's going on. Congresses to wake up and 194 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: Dad Gemmitt, we get to do our job. 195 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: What has happened in d C. What is happening in 196 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: DC is the American people are completely fed up with 197 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: the corruption. They're fed up with the way Congress has 198 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: done things, and as per usual, DC's the last to know. 199 00:12:52,160 --> 00:12:53,960 Speaker 1: And now that they're starting to pick up on the 200 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: fact that people really want genuine change, like banning of 201 00:12:57,400 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: stock trading, as we were just talking about. People want 202 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: these changes, they want these changes. What Congress is now 203 00:13:04,559 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: going to try to do is something they've been trying 204 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: to do for some years now. They're trying to wait 205 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:15,920 Speaker 1: out Trump because they think the source of all these 206 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 1: change calls is Donald Trump. They have no earthly idea 207 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 1: what they're dealing with. Donald Trump is there because the 208 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: American people were ready for a change, and after Donald 209 00:13:31,520 --> 00:13:35,840 Speaker 1: Trump is gone, that same desire will be there. If not, 210 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: it'll burn even hotter. If anything, it'll burn even hotter 211 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: than it already is now. But what the House wants 212 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: to do, and the Senate, the Republicans and Democrats in 213 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 1: the House, the Republicans and Democrats in the Senate, what 214 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: they want to do is pretend as if they're on 215 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,680 Speaker 1: board with you and the things you want. Pretend they're 216 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: on board with things like banning stock trading. But then 217 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,200 Speaker 1: when it actually comes right down to it, it's well, 218 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 1: I mean, we'll try to schedule a vote. I'm not 219 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: really sure. I don't know. My dog's sick. I can't 220 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: get to it. I know when somebody is trying to 221 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: wait me out. I know it. I have a son 222 00:14:14,960 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 1: who doesn't eat his vegetables and AB and I A 223 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: couple times we tried when he was younger, We tried 224 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 1: the tactic of making him sit at the dinner table 225 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: until the vegetables were eaten. He waited us out. He 226 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: would sit there, talk, laugh, make jokes, slip the dog 227 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: as much food as he could possibly slip the dog, 228 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: and just sit there and wait. That adorable look on 229 00:14:41,200 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 1: his face. That's exactly what Congress is trying to do 230 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 1: to us, in a much less adorable way. Congress is 231 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: attempting to wait out the America First Movement. They are 232 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: the GOP does not want to codify anything into law 233 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,200 Speaker 1: because they don't want to actually do any of these things. 234 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: In fact, they want to do the opposite of all 235 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: these things. So they understand, they can't say that. What 236 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: they're hoping is. I bet you they wake up every day, 237 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 1: I bet you they have I bet you they have 238 00:15:10,200 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 1: reminders in their calendar for the day Donald Trump is 239 00:15:12,840 --> 00:15:16,000 Speaker 1: finally done as president, and I bet they have deluded 240 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 1: themselves into believing on that day everything can just finally 241 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 1: go back to normal. We can finally go back to 242 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 1: doing things the way we've always done things. But I'm 243 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,040 Speaker 1: here to tell each and every person who thinks that 244 00:15:30,120 --> 00:15:33,680 Speaker 1: in Congress, you really don't understand what is happening in 245 00:15:33,720 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 1: this country. You don't understand it at all. You've spent 246 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: too much time around lobbyists and other scumbag politicians. You've 247 00:15:41,360 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: spent too much time in Washington, d C. The American 248 00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: people's anger at how things are done in this country 249 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: is palpable, and it's getting worse and worse and worse, 250 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,680 Speaker 1: and stuff like this. I played it only pours gas 251 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: on the fires. 252 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 2: And they passed the the stimulus bill under the Obama era, 253 00:16:04,000 --> 00:16:06,240 Speaker 2: and then you had one point two trillion in the 254 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 2: last Congress, and so that's two trillion dollars over ten years. 255 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 2: And sometimes you look around the country and go, where 256 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:15,400 Speaker 2: did two trillion dollars go? Where is all the infrastructure? 257 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 2: Why don't we have more? And I think it does 258 00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: a lot of this money gets eaten up in. 259 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: The American people are sick of it. And COVID actually 260 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: helped move this along as well. The American people quickly 261 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: grew tired of the do as I say, not as 262 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: I do politicians in this country the politicians both in Congress. 263 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,359 Speaker 1: Remember remember when they left the congressional gym open, these morons. 264 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: American gyms closed across the country because of a chess cold, 265 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: which is hilarious, but they closed gyms across the country. 266 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: People were mad about it. And then the story came 267 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,360 Speaker 1: out that Congress has a big weight room. Congress left 268 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,959 Speaker 1: their jim open, and they were just completely oblivious to it. 269 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,640 Speaker 1: I remember one guy was asked about it and it's like, well, yeah, 270 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: we got to work out. Just totally out of touch, 271 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 1: and they do not understand the level of anger that 272 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: is out there. I mean I brought up that I 273 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: brought up that story about that illegal to start out 274 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: the show. They don't understand the level of anger Americans 275 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 1: have at illegals committing crimes in this country that hasn't 276 00:17:28,920 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: even gone in. Even most Republicans don't really fully understand 277 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,840 Speaker 1: how bad that anger is. It's really really bad. You 278 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 1: people in DC suffer from the worst case of signal 279 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: lag I've ever seen. Mike Johnson says, we'll try to 280 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,600 Speaker 1: get a vote on banning insider trading if we get 281 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 1: to it. That's essentially what he said, Well kind of, 282 00:17:52,000 --> 00:17:55,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe we'll vote on it, and you 283 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 1: guys better wake up. This is why I tell you 284 00:17:57,000 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 1: a dictator is coming. You're gonna keep ignore the people 285 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 1: and ignoring the people, trying to wait out Trump and 286 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,640 Speaker 1: wait out this and hoping this will pass. It's not 287 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,080 Speaker 1: going to pass. I'm telling you right now, it's going 288 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:14,760 Speaker 1: to be bad. Now. Speaking of all the crime, what 289 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,880 Speaker 1: do you do when one of the two major political 290 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:20,159 Speaker 1: parties wants more of it? What do you do? 291 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 4: Well? 292 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 1: You better get something to protect yourself, man, especially if 293 00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,480 Speaker 1: you live in one of these blue areas. They are 294 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 1: pro criminal and anti you. What are you going to do? 295 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 1: Do you have a burna yet? You know they have 296 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: a new compact launcher. It fires at four hundred feet 297 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: per second. It's non lethal. But Jesse, I can't own that. 298 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 1: I'm in Colorado. I can't own that I'm in California. No, no, no, 299 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:52,920 Speaker 1: burna is legal everywhere all fifty states. You don't need 300 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:56,119 Speaker 1: a permit, you don't need a background check. SWAT teams 301 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 1: carry them, private security companies carry them. Over five hundred 302 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: an agencies carry them. These things are legit. We'll save 303 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: your friggin life, man, it'll put a stop to a 304 00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: bad guy quickly. Little tear gas rounds all. You can't 305 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: even imagine the powder that comes. It's brutal. Give one 306 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: to your daughter you sent away to college. Please your mom, 307 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:24,800 Speaker 1: your dad. B y Rna Berna dot com slash Jesse 308 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:29,520 Speaker 1: gets you a discount, all right, Berna dot com slash Jesse. 309 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:34,960 Speaker 1: Brandon Wikert educates us on international things. Next. He doesn't 310 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,479 Speaker 1: care if you believe him, but he's right, Jesse Kelly. 311 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:47,880 Speaker 1: It is the Jesse Kelly Show on a wonderful, wonderful Wednesday. 312 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 1: Remember you can email the show Jesse at Jesse kellyshow 313 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: dot com. It's very rare for us to have one 314 00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:55,879 Speaker 1: guest on the show, let alone too, But it just 315 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: felt right today because I need to know what the 316 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 1: heck is going on overseas. Trump is in Saudi Arabia 317 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,719 Speaker 1: now he's in k Tar. I know the experts call 318 00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: it cutter, but I went to community college. Either way, 319 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: I bet Brandon Weikert knows what's going on. He wrote 320 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: the book The Shadow War about Iran and those dirt balls. Brandon, 321 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,800 Speaker 1: what's going on with Trump and Iran? And I've heard, 322 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,919 Speaker 1: especially in that speech he gave yesterday a lot of 323 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: what we'd call saber rattling talk. 324 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:27,479 Speaker 4: What's happening, Well, thanks for having me, And we are 325 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 4: moving at the speed of Trump. It's almost hard for 326 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 4: me to keep up. And I do this for a living. 327 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 4: The way this guy is moving through the region. I 328 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 4: will just say that his speech yesterday was probably the 329 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 4: best speech of either of his terms so far in office. 330 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 4: It certainly set the table for I think how America 331 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 4: is going to proceed, not just during the Trump years, 332 00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:54,960 Speaker 4: but probably beyond as well. With the Middle East. We 333 00:20:55,040 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 4: are clearly no longer going to prioritize the region the 334 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,119 Speaker 4: way that we were doing after nine to eleven. That's 335 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 4: both good and bad. The good thing is we don't 336 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 4: have to. We're not going to be sending any more 337 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 4: kids to go fight and die in those Middle East wars. Now. 338 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: The downside here, though, is it looks like he's handing 339 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 4: the region over at least to some bad actors, not all, 340 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 4: but some, like the Muslim Brotherhood in Qatar. So there 341 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 4: are some real concerns, and it isn't just from not 342 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,040 Speaker 4: never Trump types. There are some real concerns from people 343 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: on our side, and I think their concerns are justified 344 00:21:32,080 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 4: that maybe Trump is getting too cozy with the Qataris, 345 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:38,920 Speaker 4: for instance, who are a huge funder of the Islamic 346 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,800 Speaker 4: terrorism that we've been dealing with since nine to eleven. 347 00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,439 Speaker 1: Okay, so let's actually nail down on that. It's one 348 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 1: of the main reasons I wanted you to come on, 349 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:48,920 Speaker 1: because you're the furthest thing in the world from a 350 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:53,360 Speaker 1: never Trumper. So this is kind of how I look 351 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: at it. I'm concerned myself. However, is there a way 352 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,719 Speaker 1: for us to wash our hands this reason region and 353 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: let them do what they do without handing it to 354 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,199 Speaker 1: some bad actors because bad actors run a lot of 355 00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: the dumps over there. 356 00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,800 Speaker 4: That's right, That's right now. I think that's probably what's 357 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,200 Speaker 4: that play here, because like I said, they're not all 358 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:18,320 Speaker 4: bad actors. I mean, the Saudi government, at least under 359 00:22:18,359 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 4: Mohammed bin Salman, he's very pro American. Clearly he has 360 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 4: a very very strong rapport with President Trump. That's the 361 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 4: real in the Arab world at least, that's the real power. 362 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 4: And so the fact that we've got a friendly in 363 00:22:35,080 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 4: the Crown Prince that's going to stabilize and sort of 364 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:43,639 Speaker 4: contain what katar might otherwise do now that Trump is 365 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:46,399 Speaker 4: sort of letting them in to the wider picture. The 366 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 4: Kataris he's letting in, but the fact that we've got 367 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,480 Speaker 4: the Crown Prince Saudi Arabia that will balance that because 368 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 4: they don't want the Kataris to go full bore into 369 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 4: the Muslim Brotherhood stuff either. The problem is, though, the 370 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:05,600 Speaker 4: Muslim Brotherhood itself, which is the umbrella organization for Islamism, 371 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 4: that is the ideology that we've been fighting. That's the 372 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 4: ideology of Bin Laden al Qaeda. The ideology of isis 373 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,840 Speaker 4: the ideology of Jelani and Syria, who again I'm very 374 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:21,719 Speaker 4: disturbed Trump is recognizing. But ultimately the Saudis are a 375 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,400 Speaker 4: great counterweight to that, which is why I say it's 376 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 4: not all bad, but it is concerning. And I think 377 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 4: though this is part of a larger move to pull 378 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 4: the Americans out of the region and let the locals 379 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 4: clean up their own messes. Now, the downside's going to 380 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 4: be for our friends in Israel, because our friends in 381 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:44,239 Speaker 4: Israel have overplayed their hand Netan Yahoo in particular, and 382 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 4: what's happening now is Trump is fed up with Netan 383 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 4: Yahoo so he's basically letting the region isolate Israel as 384 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 4: we exit out of the region. So that's going to 385 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,840 Speaker 4: be a continuing headache and a threat to the Israelis, 386 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 4: especially because the Muslim Brotherhood has direct ties to the 387 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,560 Speaker 4: most powerful country in the region, and that is Turkey. 388 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:11,200 Speaker 1: Okay, So there's so much to unpack there. Let's nail 389 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:15,120 Speaker 1: down on the Israel thing first. Why is Trump fed 390 00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:18,080 Speaker 1: up with Israel and Net and Yahoo? Because it's honestly, 391 00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,680 Speaker 1: it's difficult to get more pro Israel than Trump has 392 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: historically been. They call the goal on Heights the Trump Heights. 393 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: I was over there once and they are billboards of 394 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,399 Speaker 1: the man up. What in the world did Net and 395 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: Yaho do to get crossways with Trump? 396 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,720 Speaker 4: I think what Trump has been trying to do is 397 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,960 Speaker 4: avoid another Middle East war. And I think he feels 398 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 4: and I don't know if this is right or not, 399 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 4: but I think he feels that Netanyah who is intransigent 400 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 4: about picking a fight with Iran. And while Trump has 401 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 4: certainly made it clear he doesn't want to see Iran 402 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 4: become more powerful, he has also made it abundantly clear 403 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,480 Speaker 4: that he's not going to war against Iran. Anytime soon. 404 00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 4: And so Netan Yaho, you know Menyah, who is Israel 405 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,919 Speaker 4: itself is threatened directly by Iran, the Iranian proxies, the 406 00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 4: who thise Hamas Hezbela, especially Hesbela, those Iranian proxies are 407 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 4: direct threats to Israel. But the Israelis can't take it 408 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 4: all on their own. So I think Trump is frustrated 409 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 4: because net Nyaho is very gung ho about knocking out 410 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: the Iranian regime while he thinks there's still time to 411 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 4: do that where or at least the nuclear facilities, but 412 00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 4: that will lead to a regime change mission, whereas Trump 413 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,080 Speaker 4: doesn't want to do that, and I think that Trump 414 00:25:35,119 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 4: felt he no longer had a viable partner in Netan Yahoo. 415 00:25:39,040 --> 00:25:42,440 Speaker 4: Now what I think might happen is whenever the political 416 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: system in Israel gets back on track, it's been sort 417 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 4: of off kilter since the October seventh terror attacks. I 418 00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 4: think whatever that process comes back into play, where domestic 419 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: politics in Israel starts normalizing, I think Netanyah, Who's probably 420 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 4: not gonna last much longer in office, and at that 421 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:03,000 Speaker 4: point there might be a resetting of relations between Israel 422 00:26:03,040 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 4: and the US. But I argue as long as net 423 00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 4: and Yaho is in office, Trump's gonna let the kind 424 00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 4: of Islamic powers of the region isolate Israel so that 425 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 4: it buys us time and favor to leave peacefully from 426 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,080 Speaker 4: the wider Middle East. 427 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: Did the Gaza stuff the gazz of war? I shouldn't 428 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:25,360 Speaker 1: call it stuff. Did the gazz of war that Israel 429 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 1: was fighting? Is that something that Trump likes? Dislikes it? 430 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:32,879 Speaker 1: I asked, because I remember, like it was yesterday when 431 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,399 Speaker 1: he talked about putting up hotels and just making a 432 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: nice yeah. Yeah, no, I you go ahead, go ahead, 433 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: God please. 434 00:26:42,520 --> 00:26:45,680 Speaker 4: No. I think that he wants peace in the region. 435 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,560 Speaker 4: I think initially he thought Net and Yahoo would be 436 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:53,159 Speaker 4: his ticket to quickly getting peace. You have to remember, though, 437 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,280 Speaker 4: the Israeli military is highly competent, but they're a small force. 438 00:26:57,440 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 4: And so when they went in to god yes, they 439 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,440 Speaker 4: did a lot of damage to Hamas, and that's good, 440 00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 4: but unfortunately there was a lot of collateral damage. And 441 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:09,000 Speaker 4: I think Trump is looking around, going this doesn't look 442 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 4: good for me and America in the region to be 443 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: so closely tethered to all of the destruction in Godza. 444 00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 4: Now look, I think that Yahoo was justified to protect himself, 445 00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: to protect his country. Collateral damage is part of war, 446 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 4: but ultimately, from the American perspective, it was, at least 447 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 4: as Trump saw it, it wasn't conducive to what he 448 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:31,480 Speaker 4: was trying to do with the wider region. And the 449 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:35,160 Speaker 4: wider region is not just Israel, it's the Arabs, it's 450 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 4: even Iran and Turkey. So he's got to balance what 451 00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 4: Israel needs with what American needs to do, which is 452 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 4: to extricate itself from the region without completely surrendering the 453 00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:47,440 Speaker 4: region to say Iran. 454 00:27:48,160 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: This stuff is all so complicated with our allies here 455 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:54,919 Speaker 1: in enemies here. I need Chris. Next time we booked 456 00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Wikert, I think we need to get him for 457 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,159 Speaker 1: like an hour or something like that. I'm not going 458 00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 1: to ask you for an hour. We're Brandon, but do 459 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:03,800 Speaker 1: you have maybe one more segment with these kids? I 460 00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: want to talk I want to talk Turkey. Ha. How 461 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,480 Speaker 1: about that, Chris, Chris, that was funny. It was a 462 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 1: dad joke. Whatever. Anyway, we will be right back with 463 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: Brandon Weikert talking Turkey, Iran, Iraq. I'm curious, are they 464 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 1: anything anymore? All that and more coming up? Hang on 465 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:29,120 Speaker 1: truth attitude. Jesse Kelly, we are back with Brandon Wikert. Obviously, 466 00:28:29,160 --> 00:28:31,160 Speaker 1: you know Brandon Wiker. If you listen to this show, 467 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,080 Speaker 1: highly recommend you pick up his book Shadow War. Okay, 468 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 1: so I first want to ask you about Turkey before 469 00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: we get to Iran in Iraq, because you've mentioned to 470 00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: us before on this show that they are really the 471 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,880 Speaker 1: big dog in the region. So maybe you could let 472 00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: us know what is Turkey, Brandon. Is it some Islamist state? 473 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: Is it a secular state? Are they are they she eyed? 474 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 1: Are they sunny? What? Are they? 475 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 4: Definitely an Islamist state. They are predominantly Sunni ethnic Turks. 476 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:08,239 Speaker 4: It's a little bit different than the Saudi Arabia, you know, 477 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 4: Qatar side, which are ethnic Arabs, but they're also Sunni Muslim. 478 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 4: The thing with Turkey is under the current regime of 479 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 4: Rasip taiep Erdowan, the president, he is an Islamist, he 480 00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 4: belongs to the Islamist Party and he has made it 481 00:29:24,920 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 4: clear his intention to rebuild the lost Ottoman Empire that 482 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 4: collapsed at the end of the First World War, that 483 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,880 Speaker 4: was for hundreds of years the dominant power in the 484 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 4: Middle East, and he is on track to restore the 485 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:42,000 Speaker 4: it's called the Neo Ottoman Empire. He is on track 486 00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 4: to bring that to be into being. And I argue 487 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:49,080 Speaker 4: that Trump's moves right now, whether it means to or not, 488 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 4: they are going to allow for Turkey to take a 489 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 4: much greater role in the Middle East as we step out. Now, 490 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 4: that's somewhat of a good thing because technically Turkey is 491 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 4: a NATO ally. At the same time, though, they're very 492 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 4: unpredictable and unstable and at times unfriendly ally. And furthermore, 493 00:30:10,560 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 4: if you're sitting in Israel, the last thing you should 494 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,680 Speaker 4: be wanting is a Turkey coming in and restoring the 495 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,160 Speaker 4: out of an empire, because that probably means the end 496 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 4: of Israel. The Turks are going to try to crush 497 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 4: Israel at some point, and they've got the military capabilities 498 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 4: in the long term to do that. So what's happening 499 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: now is a completely generational shift. It's going back to 500 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,400 Speaker 4: the way things were before World War One in the 501 00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,560 Speaker 4: region with Turkey as the dominant power. That's not a 502 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 4: good thing, though necessarily for our friends in Israel. 503 00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Okay, So they're going to fill the vacuum of power 504 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:49,760 Speaker 1: when we step out. Where does Iran fit in all this. 505 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: Turkey obviously we know how they fit with Israel, but Turkey, Iraq, 506 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: But where where is Iran as far as their their 507 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:00,920 Speaker 1: military capability, they're They're who there are? Whose side are 508 00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 1: they on? Where are they in this? 509 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 4: Well? The Iranians, that's a great question. The Iranians are 510 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 4: predominantly a Sheiite Muslim power, ethnic Persians, so they're really 511 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 4: kind of on the outside of the region in many respects. 512 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 4: They are Muslims, so that they have a lot of 513 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,240 Speaker 4: weight in the region, but they're not the predominant Sunni power. 514 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 4: They are the site power. What that means is Iran 515 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,680 Speaker 4: has spent the last several decades desperately trying to make 516 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:31,320 Speaker 4: for itself, to make itself into the dominant regional power 517 00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 4: that was playing out throughout the Iraq War in two 518 00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 4: thousand and three, that was playing out afterward during the 519 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:40,160 Speaker 4: Arab Spring and all of that. Ultimately, I argue it 520 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 4: looks to me like the Iranians are on the back foot. 521 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:49,840 Speaker 4: They have lost their connectivity to Syria through Iraq, They've 522 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 4: lost their connectivity to Hesbla in Lebanon. They're very much 523 00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 4: isolated in their own part of the region. However, Iran 524 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 4: itself is a very hard target. They have very sophisticated 525 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 4: air defenses, they have a very capable for that region military, 526 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 4: which means that any strike by US or even Israel 527 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 4: on Iran might not end very well for US because 528 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 4: of how complex the Iranian defenses are. Moving beyond the 529 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 4: defensive to the offensive. I argue Iran is at the 530 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 4: weakest that has been in years. It cannot initiate the 531 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,719 Speaker 4: kinds of offensives it was doing in twenty fourteen, for instance, 532 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 4: against Isis because it's lost Syria, it's losing parts of Iraq, 533 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 4: two Turkish backed groups, the Sunni groups. So ultimately what 534 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 4: will happen I think is Turkey will become the dominant 535 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,040 Speaker 4: force in the region and the Iranians will basically kind 536 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 4: of have their own little enclave in Iran itself, not 537 00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:49,000 Speaker 4: unlike historically where you had the Ottoman Empire leading the 538 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 4: Sunni side and then you had kind of an Iranian 539 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,400 Speaker 4: you know, the Safavid for instance, empire running the kind 540 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 4: of the Iranian side of things, and that's kind of 541 00:32:57,600 --> 00:32:59,640 Speaker 4: a balance of power between the two of them. 542 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to need a new lawrence of Arabia 543 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: at some point in time here soon, yes, don't roll 544 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: your eyes, all right, Iraq, what I spent a little 545 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,720 Speaker 1: bit of time in that dump. Where are they now? 546 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 4: So they are torn between a Shiite dominant population, their 547 00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 4: majority Shiite, which means they are aligned with Iran. This 548 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 4: is why I said Iran after Iraq War, after we 549 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 4: got rid of Saddam, Iran basically was Onmi offensive because 550 00:33:27,960 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 4: they were able to move in to Iraq. We basically 551 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,640 Speaker 4: got rid of Saddam and handed Iraq over to Iran, 552 00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 4: which was not what we wanted to do. But there's 553 00:33:36,280 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 4: also the Sunni element in northern and western Iraq near 554 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 4: the Syrian border, the Sunni Triangle maybe you're familiar with 555 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,200 Speaker 4: if you served in Iraq, that was a key area 556 00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 4: of operation. The Turks are actually moving and forced there 557 00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: to support the Sunni side that previously was the home 558 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 4: of al Qaeda in Iraq and Isis. So you have 559 00:33:59,080 --> 00:34:03,000 Speaker 4: shaping up any rock sort of this this no man's 560 00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:08,280 Speaker 4: land between Turkish backed Sunni militants and the Shiites backed 561 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 4: Iranian militants of the south of Iraq. So Iraq doesn't really, 562 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:17,360 Speaker 4: in my opinion, exist per se as a functional country. 563 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,840 Speaker 4: It's sort of like, you know, a middle, like a 564 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: neutral zone between the Sunni and Shiite sides of the region. 565 00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh good, well, at least all that fighting was worth it. 566 00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 1: That makes me feel really wonderful. Okay, so finally I 567 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: swear I'll let you go after this one. Thank you 568 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:39,960 Speaker 1: for giving us an education. Random Russia, China and frankly Europe. 569 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: You say, when we back away, Turkey feels that vacuum. 570 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,640 Speaker 1: Are these other significant powers on the planet not interested, 571 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: not involved, not able to get involved? Where are they? 572 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: Why are they not sticking their noses at all? 573 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:54,880 Speaker 4: That No, No, Russia and Russia and China are very 574 00:34:54,960 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 4: much involved through Iran. Basically, once we back away, you'll 575 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,840 Speaker 4: have the Turk spilling the void. But then also on 576 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 4: the periphery you'll have Russia and China having more influence 577 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:14,240 Speaker 4: via Iran. China buys eighty percent of Iran's natural gas 578 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 4: and oil. Most of Saudi Arabia's oil is sold to Asia, Japan, 579 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 4: but also China. So China is going to have a 580 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,400 Speaker 4: significant long term presence in the region regardless of what 581 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,719 Speaker 4: happens with these Trump deals. Second of all, Russia is 582 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:34,080 Speaker 4: a key military partner for many of these regimes, notably Iran, 583 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 4: but they're also making bold moves right now in Libya, 584 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 4: where Russian backed militants are fighting Turkish backed militants for 585 00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: control of Libya. So ultimately those two powers will have 586 00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 4: a greater influence as we step back the Europeans. They're 587 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:54,080 Speaker 4: sort of trying to get in, but ultimately the Europeans 588 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 4: are not a real power anymore, and so they're going 589 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,440 Speaker 4: to be forced to just watch from the periphery. 590 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 1: I think he is, Brandon Wikert. I bet you're going 591 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: to buy that book now, aren't you. The book is 592 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: Shadow War. Brandon, come back and see us soon. Thank 593 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: you so much. I appreciate you, brother. I'm so smart. Now, 594 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: don't roll your eyes, Chris. And it did give me 595 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: an idea to talk about something. I wasn't going to 596 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,879 Speaker 1: go this direction an hour three, but we're let's talk 597 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,799 Speaker 1: about America's influence internationally and why it's going the way 598 00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:31,800 Speaker 1: it's going. Before we talk about that, I want to 599 00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 1: talk to you about something more important, and that's your 600 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,360 Speaker 1: dog's food, which is not good. Dog food is bad. 601 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 1: If you ate at McDonald's every single meal, how long 602 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:50,439 Speaker 1: would you live probably not as long as you'd live otherwise, right, 603 00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:55,080 Speaker 1: probably not very long. 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