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Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what with the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Famer Tim Kirkschin. I'm his son, Jeff Kirkshin and Dad.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to get to Corkchin's takeaways on

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Speaker 1: this date, a lot of fun stuff, but we got

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Speaker 1: to open up with you got a late night text

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Speaker 1: message from a manager of a major league baseball team?

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Speaker 1: Was it after midnight? You got this text?

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Speaker 2: It was just before midnight, and Aaron Boone texted me

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Speaker 2: just before midnight. Let's remember, Jeff, I have a different

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Speaker 2: relationship with him, and it's not healthy because I was

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Speaker 2: his teammate for six years at ESPN. You just can't

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Speaker 2: forget that stuff. And he used to text me in

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Speaker 2: the middle of the night, all these ridiculous things that

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Speaker 2: were so good, so funny. So just before midnight on Monday,

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Speaker 2: he sends me this text. He says, it's RBI's right.

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Speaker 2: You say RBI's right. He said, I'm on a mission.

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Speaker 2: I'm certain it's RBI's I'm right, aren't I? So I

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Speaker 2: right back to him, Yes, of course you're right. I've

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Speaker 2: said RBI's my entire life that, Jeff. It's interpretive. If

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Speaker 2: somebody says RBI, do you think I'm gonna get angry

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Speaker 2: or yell at him. I know I can be a

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Speaker 2: pedanic little twit once in a while, but there is

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Speaker 2: no right answer here to this.

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Speaker 1: Okay, no, but I kind of think saying RBI sounds wrong.

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Speaker 1: If he said he finished the season with one hundred RBI,

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Speaker 1: I don't. It doesn't feel right to me. And I

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Speaker 1: understand that it's runs batted in. I get that it's

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Speaker 1: since it's a an abbreviation, I feel like it has

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Speaker 2: The comparable is prisoners of war. They're not called one

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Speaker 2: hundred POW came home from the war. It's po w's.

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Speaker 2: So I know a guy named Joe Diorio who's one

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Speaker 2: of my favorite guys. He writes a column and he's

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Speaker 2: written books called The Art of Words. He's an expert

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Speaker 2: on words. He writes about word usage all the time.

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Speaker 2: So I called him about RBIs just the other day. Okay, Now,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure that I'm going to call him RBIs no

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Speaker 2: matter what he tells me. But he says, oh, you're

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Speaker 2: absolutely right, Here's how he explained it. Because the first

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Speaker 2: word is plural, it manages the rest of the usage

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Speaker 2: home runs, hit walks per game, those are plurals, but

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Speaker 2: phrase prisoners of war runs batted in. So he says,

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Speaker 2: it's correct English to call it RBIs. Now again, if

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Speaker 2: you call it RBI, I don't care. But I've done

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Speaker 2: this my entire life. I'm sixty eight years old and

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Speaker 2: I'm not stopping now.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm very curious what Mark Simon, our buddy, would

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Speaker 1: say about this very conversation. This is one I would

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Speaker 1: get a text message from him for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he texted you about it's not the MLB

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Speaker 2: because that would be the Major League Baseball. It's just MLB.

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Speaker 1: And also texted me this week about our Tuesday episode,

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Speaker 1: asking when we're going to get Kathy kirksh and your

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Speaker 1: he said, what are the chances that would happen? I said,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, unless we're going to talk about antiques, right.

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Speaker 1: And then he said maybe she could be an I

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Speaker 1: am a seamhead, and he explained it as she's a

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Speaker 1: seamad because she's had to deal with your dad with

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Speaker 2: That's a good point. Forty years ago, Mom argued with

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Speaker 2: great hand eye coordination. But she shouldn't be arguing with

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Speaker 2: I am. The only thing I know better than her

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Speaker 2: our baseball, basketball and sitcomference from the sixties and feeding

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Speaker 2: And you know that.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's a good point to pivot speaking of my

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Speaker 1: new addition to the Kirkshen family.

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Speaker 2: We've got a dog. I've had a dog my entire life,

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Speaker 2: So Mom just took it upon herself. Aunt Cindy said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: dog is great. She played with Carson and Emma, our

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Speaker 2: So it was great. Everything is great. The only thing

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Speaker 2: So we opened it, Jeff, to the entire family to

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Speaker 2: you have come up with some names. Is that correct?

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Speaker 1: Well, listen, dogs are everything to the Kirkchen family. And

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Speaker 1: to take it back a little bit, you lost your

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Speaker 1: two dogs, Dad, in a six weeks period, and in

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Speaker 1: the third week, we lost our dog Pirate. The Kirkchen

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Speaker 1: family lost three dogs in six weeks. Now we did

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Speaker 1: the spring really of twenty twenty four, my wife, we

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Speaker 1: got our dog Ranger, our previous dog Pirate.

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Speaker 1: You had pointed out these are both team names of

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Speaker 1: Major League Baseball teams. We didn't name Pirate. We adopted him.

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Speaker 1: He was eight, so we knew his name. We named

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Speaker 1: him Ranger because really my wife loves Ranger Suarez of

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Speaker 1: the Philly right. And so, Dad, I don't know what

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure diamondbacks would be really loud, lost red right,

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Speaker 1: grad is a great dog name, absolutely right, Okay, Well

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Speaker 1: I had to make sure I haven't met the dog yet,

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Speaker 1: so I put together some dog female dog names that

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Speaker 1: Go from the least favorite to the most favorite. All right,

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Speaker 1: Diamond like it, which I like, you know, like a

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Speaker 2: So see immediately, Jeff Emily is right, We're not gonna

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Speaker 2: Babe after Babe.

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Speaker 1: Casey I thought was a really great dog name, right,

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Speaker 2: Right, And Jeff Hoffman right up the street has named

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Speaker 2: can't go there. No, no, Jeff, you gotta you got it.

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Speaker 2: You have to be creative with our names. Correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ryan as a Nolan Ryan. He's been on the

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Speaker 2: Okay, all right, well, just like give.

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Speaker 2: I think you got the wrong order here, Jeff, but

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Speaker 1: Jack's, which is more of a boy dog name, but

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, Jeff. They're all good. They're all good.

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Speaker 2: We've debated and since we got the dog from from Georgia,

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Speaker 2: Hank after Hank Aaron, but it's a female dog, so

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Speaker 2: My second choice was Frank from The Elias, since he's

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Speaker 2: Frank from the Elias Come here. I didn't think that

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Speaker 2: I thought, for a short time we should name her spot.

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Speaker 2: But that's already taken by Stephen Wright, maybe the greatest

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Speaker 2: one line comedian ever after Rodney Dangerfield. It's Stephen right

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Speaker 2: the first first joke I ever heard him say on

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Speaker 2: And I said, I don't know who this guy is,

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Speaker 2: but he's the funniest part. So at the eighty six

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Speaker 2: real life. I would have been real disappointed if he said, Hey,

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Speaker 2: great to see you, Thanks so much. Come on, let's

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Speaker 2: go have a beer and I'll tell you some more jokes.

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Speaker 2: None of that. He was exactly the way he was

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Speaker 1: So wait, does your dog's new name have anything to

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Speaker 2: It does not.

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Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna name your dog MOOKI.

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Speaker 2: Well, MOOKI was lamee lame Kirkchen's recommendation name of Mookie.

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Speaker 2: I just for fun, and I don't want to get

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Speaker 1: So I'm gonna you always said you call a lot

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Speaker 2: Right. I don't think Mom would go for Chunky for

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Speaker 2: the name of a dog, even though I love that

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Speaker 2: word and I love that name. All right, So so

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Speaker 2: we settled on a name. We've landed on a name,

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Speaker 2: and it came from your godson Carson age four. Now,

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Speaker 2: what does Carson love more than anything other than say, well,

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Speaker 2: he loves cars. But what does Carson love more than anything?

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Speaker 1: Dinosaurs?

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Speaker 2: What's his favorite dinosaur? The t Rex? Did you name

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Speaker 2: your dog t Rex? No? What is the female version

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Speaker 2: of t Rex? Name wise at least Tanya Rex?

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Speaker 1: No, Jeff Tina Rex?

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Speaker 2: Take the t out rex? Rexy Rexy?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, Carson suggested that I had suggested it before,

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Speaker 2: gotta be Rexy. It's got to be Rexy. So is

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Speaker 2: when in truth it was Carson Keenahan, aged four, who

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Speaker 2: loves who loves t Rex more than anything? So Rex

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Speaker 2: We have done the All Food team, and yes, Bob

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Speaker 2: That's what I remember. Yeah, he made the All Meat

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Speaker 1: I think storytelling is something that's so so important and

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Speaker 2: For And I did not realize you could do your own,

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Speaker 2: So I read the Paddington Book at Kelly's house, and

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that's the book you chose to read, because

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Speaker 2: Dad, Right, Okay, a couple other things. The Cubs are

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Speaker 2: And the Giants are for real, Jeff, that nationally West

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dan, just like we're recording this on Wednesday night,

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Speaker 2: It's a great division. It's really really good. Okay, that's

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Speaker 1: Isn't it great for baseball that Shohey and Aaron Judge

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's great because they're they're we're gonna win

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Speaker 2: I'm so proud of you. I have corrupted you so

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Speaker 2: But you called me the other day and said, Dad,

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Speaker 1: And we definitely got lucky that it was a Monday,

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Speaker 2: twenty four. So we have the rest of the season

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Speaker 2: for someone in the ninth spot to drive in five

433
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Speaker 2: runs and we've set another crazy major league record. That's

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Speaker 2: this season. Jeff. How many times have we slapped our

435
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: forehead and said, boy, when's the last time that happened?

436
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: Or how crazy is that? This is a very small, unimportant,

437
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 2: pointless thing. But maybe it isn't. Maybe it's that the

438
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: way we construct the lineup. You know, you can hit

439
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,879
Speaker 2: a guy ninth and he can still produce. And just

440
00:23:49,960 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 2: another reminder, Jeff, you make a mistake with almost any

441
00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:57,200
Speaker 2: major league hitter today, whether he's hitting first or ninth,

442
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,840
Speaker 2: he can hurt you if you make a mistake. And

443
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 2: believe me, nine hitters have been pretty darn productive this year.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Dad, we've definitely slapped our foreheads quite a few

445
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,360
Speaker 1: times on that number nine production. And when a Kirkchin

446
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 1: boy slaps his forehead, it's big because we got a

447
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,000
Speaker 1: big forehead. Let me tell you, it's a five head.

448
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:17,240
Speaker 1: I got over here, and you've got a six head

449
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:17,640
Speaker 1: work out.

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Speaker 2: I do. Look at the power alleys I've got in

451
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Speaker 2: my forehead. Now, God, it's terrible.

452
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Speaker 1: Oh, it's like it's like looking at a time machine

453
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Speaker 1: for me, Dad, one day, one day, when i'm your age,

454
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be thinking about you. Let me tell you

455
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Speaker 1: that much.

456
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm on my way.

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Speaker 1: Look at this dad, coming on a walk with my

458
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Speaker 1: daughter and my wife Emily.

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Speaker 2: Look, Jeff, look pretty soon you're gonna be like me,

460
00:24:41,359 --> 00:24:43,240
Speaker 2: more hair on your back than on your head.

461
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Speaker 1: That I'm turning into Walter. I'm turning into Walter Goggins

462
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Speaker 1: over here.

463
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Speaker 2: Well, who is Walter Goggins.

464
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Speaker 1: Walter Goggins is an actor. He just uh he was

465
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Speaker 1: just in a big movie. He was in the Uh No,

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Speaker 1: he was in the New White Lotus season. If I'm

467
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Speaker 1: not mistaken, If you ever want to see that guy,

468
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: that guy's got a hairline on him. He looks like

469
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 1: he's halfway through taking a wig off. That's how back

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00:25:07,880 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: his you know, it looks like he got stopped halfway through.

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Speaker 2: Oh I see, okay, all right.

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Speaker 1: He has a funny name, though he kind of sounds

473
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Speaker 1: like a cartoon character.

474
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Speaker 2: Walter Goggins. I like it. I love it when people

475
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 2: sound like their names. Bridget Bridget Bardow was like one

476
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:26,960
Speaker 2: of the most beautiful women ever. Doesn't Bridget Bardow sound

477
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: like a beautiful woman? And again, back from my time,

478
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 2: Boris Carloff was one of the great scary movie characters.

479
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:40,840
Speaker 2: He played Frankenstein and Dragon. Boris Carloff. That's a scary name.

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 2: I mean, it fits, it fits him perfectly.

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Speaker 1: My favorite one was former Wisconsin running back and then

482
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Speaker 1: I think he was with the Broncos. Was Monte Ball

483
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Speaker 1: A little running back? Doesn't sound like a little running back?

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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, And we're gonna get We're.

485
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Speaker 1: Gonna get in front of Jake Berger for looking like

486
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Speaker 1: a Jake Burr last year.

487
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Speaker 2: That's so funny, because boy, you are really ahead of me, Jeff.

488
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Speaker 2: We'll get to both of them here in a minute.

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Speaker 2: All right. The Rockies, Jeff, lead the league in something,

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00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 2: and it's actually something good. The Rockies have the most

491
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 2: triples of any team in the major leagues, with twenty one. Now. It's,

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Speaker 2: of course, in part because of the huge ballpark in

493
00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: which they play. You gotta play deep, you got, I mean,

494
00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,320
Speaker 2: it's just a huge outfield and when the ball stays

495
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 2: in play, you can run forever. So but I was

496
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: struck by the fact that when I look this up,

497
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,960
Speaker 2: they had twenty triples. They have twenty one now, twenty triples,

498
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: and they had twelve wins. So do you find it

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Speaker 2: odd that they had way more triples than victories? Does

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00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 2: that sound odd to you because it did to me.

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Speaker 1: Well, you should be fascinated by triples as well, Dad,

502
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:54,440
Speaker 1: because commonly they could probably lead to a sacrifice fly right,

503
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Speaker 1: or if they're so bad that they can't even drive

504
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Speaker 1: in a run with a runner on third from a triple,

505
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,080
Speaker 1: I mean, we're in trouble.

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00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:04,440
Speaker 2: Right, I'm getting to that. So the twenty nineteen Royals,

507
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 2: after seventy four games, had twenty six triples and twenty

508
00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:12,720
Speaker 2: five wins, So there is precedent for having more triples

509
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: than victories this late in the season. And I just

510
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 2: found out that the twenty nineteen Tigers are the only

511
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 2: team ever to finish the season with the most triples

512
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,720
Speaker 2: and be the lowest scoring team in the major leagues.

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Speaker 2: And that's where the Rockies are right now. They're last

514
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 2: in run scored and first in triples. Does sound odd

515
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 2: to you there?

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Speaker 1: That shouldn't add up at all, right, I mean, hit twenty.

517
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Speaker 2: More triples, you would think you got a shot to

518
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Speaker 2: score some run. Last in the league in run scored,

519
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: first in the league in triples. Those are the kind

520
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:54,119
Speaker 2: of things that intrigued me. All right. You talked about

521
00:27:54,160 --> 00:27:57,919
Speaker 2: great names, Jeff. Let's face it, Roman Anthony, who just

522
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,399
Speaker 2: got his first major league hit the other night. Is

523
00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:04,400
Speaker 2: that a great baseball name? Or what we talked about

524
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:08,440
Speaker 2: the Roman Empire has started? But really, how regal does

525
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: that sound? Roman Anthony? How can you fail with a

526
00:28:12,200 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 2: name like that?

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00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: Right fielder Roman Anthony. I think I think the position

528
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 1: he plays too. Also the double R right fielder Roman Anthony. Yeah,

529
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: I think it's got a smooth vibe to it.

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Speaker 2: Right, I love it.

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Speaker 3: So.

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Speaker 2: Roman Anthony is one of five Major League players in

533
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,560
Speaker 2: history to have a first name of Roman. So they're

534
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: only five in history that have ever had that. And

535
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Speaker 2: on the same team, of course, is Marcelo Meyer, who's

536
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Speaker 2: the second really great young player that the Red Sox have.

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Speaker 2: He's the only player in the history of the game

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Speaker 2: named Marcello. And they have Christian Campbell, the third of

539
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:58,760
Speaker 2: the great young prospects that the Red Sox have now

540
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,920
Speaker 2: brought to the major leagues. And he spells his first

541
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Speaker 2: name with a K. So there's never been a Christian

542
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 2: with a K in the history of Major League Baseball.

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00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 2: There's never been a Marcelo, And there have only been

544
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Speaker 2: five Romans in the history of baseball. I love that stuff.

545
00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: Only five Romans first named Roman. Yes, one of my

546
00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: best friends in the world, Amy, my co hosts from

547
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 1: Las Vegas, her son Roman. They call him Roman the Rocket.

548
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: He's playing football right now, just like his big brother.

549
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: Right. That is so cool? All right, Jeff, you mentioned

550
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:33,840
Speaker 2: Jake Berger. I don't know what to do with this.

551
00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:37,240
Speaker 2: But somebody has to mention it. Jake Berger had in

552
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:40,240
Speaker 2: a bat the other night against Joanah Bride, so it

553
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: was a Burger bride matchup. Now, I some clever people

554
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,400
Speaker 2: are gonna have to fill in their own joke here.

555
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 2: But you could go bride Burger or Burger bride. But

556
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: there has to be something we could do with that.

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00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:56,560
Speaker 2: And I've been at it all day and I can't

558
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 2: think of anything clever to go with Burger bride. You

559
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: marry some guy who loves to eat Hamburgers and you

560
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: are his burger bride.

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00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, if it's the McDonald family, maybe you

562
00:30:09,080 --> 00:30:12,800
Speaker 1: could do something along those lines. The Burger bride, right,

563
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: her name's Wendy, and now she's Wendy McDonald right, well,

564
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: like bringing all the all of the fast food joints

565
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Speaker 1: in here, right.

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Speaker 2: Well, as we know, Jake Burger's name connects with a

567
00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 2: lot and he you know, he's faced several pictures named

568
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,200
Speaker 2: King in his major league career. So the Burger King

569
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 2: at bats are just so good. I told you I

570
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:36,600
Speaker 2: went to him once. It's a jac Do you find

571
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 2: it funny when all sorts of people point out that

572
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 2: you just had a burger kid get bat and he

573
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: looks to me. He's a funny dude. He goes, yeah,

574
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 2: it's really funny. And he said, you know the memes

575
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 2: that you see the next day, they are absolutely hysterical.

576
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: So he's got a good sense of humor about it.

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Speaker 2: But if you come up with better, something better than

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Speaker 2: Burger Bride, you let me know.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'm glad you used meme correctly this time, because

580
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 1: last time you got emoji and me me mix step stuff.

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Speaker 1: All right, Jeff, I'm getting better, but I'm praising you.

582
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,840
Speaker 1: You're doing great.

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Speaker 2: I still stink at this stuff. I'm trying, though.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you have for on this date in

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Speaker 1: baseball history?

586
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 2: Well, on June twelfth, nineteen thirty nine, we had the

587
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Speaker 2: first induction at Cooperstown in history where they actually had

588
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 2: a ceremony and eleven living players went to the induction, So,

589
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: which is like so cool and what I found, Jeff,

590
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: and I can't believe I didn't know this before. The

591
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:44,920
Speaker 2: eleven guys formed a team. Tim. We had a player

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00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 2: at each position with one little fudge, So I'll go

593
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: through them. The catcher is Connie Mack, who went in

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00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 2: as a manager of course, but was a catcher and

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00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,280
Speaker 2: a pretty good one. George Sisler at first, Eddie Collins

596
00:31:59,280 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: at second, Hannis Wagner shortstop. We had to put Nap

597
00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 2: Leisureway at third because he did play indeed, three games

598
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 2: at third base in his career, every other one at second.

599
00:32:11,040 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 2: So that's the only fudge we had. But the outfield

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00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 2: was Babe Ruth, Tris Speaker, and Ty Cobb, and the

601
00:32:17,280 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 2: two pitchers were Walter Johnson and Cy Young. And all

602
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 2: eleven were officially inducted at the first ceremony, okay, nineteen

603
00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: thirty nine, and all eleven of those guys were alive

604
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: in that cool. I just did not know that I

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00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 2: could make a team out of those eleven.

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Speaker 1: Do you think they were thinking about that? They couldn't

607
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Speaker 1: have been.

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00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,560
Speaker 2: I don't think they could have been, But.

609
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:46,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they didn't have They didn't have MLB the show

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00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 1: to bring that whole team together and run a simulation

611
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:51,479
Speaker 1: or stratumatic at the time, so I don't know they

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Speaker 1: were thinking about it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just amazed there is a team there, and I

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00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,400
Speaker 2: never even I never noticed that until I just started

615
00:32:57,440 --> 00:32:59,480
Speaker 2: looking at this date in baseball history.

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Speaker 1: Loved that big shout out to our my cousin, Michael,

617
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 1: your nephew who loved drafting Nap lashway in stratamatic because

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Speaker 1: he liked the way the name sounded.

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Speaker 2: Yep, you know they named the Cleveland, India, well, the

620
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 2: Cleveland they were named after, or they were the Cleveland Naps.

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Speaker 2: It's just unbelievable. That's how good a player he was.

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Speaker 1: And I was a morning radio show host in Cleveland

623
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Speaker 1: for three years, so you know I took a lot

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Speaker 1: of naps in Cleveland. I'll tell you that one. Very good, Jeff,

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00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,960
Speaker 1: all right, Dad, coming up next on is this a

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Speaker 1: great game or what? I am a seam heead featuring

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Speaker 1: a current representative slash professional baseball player. Very interesting, Ozzy

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Speaker 1: to or Ole, the best number twenty one and the

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Speaker 1: greatest cardinal of all time. It's all coming up next,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dad, I am a seam head. For people

631
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Speaker 1: listening right now, you can be part of the show.

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Speaker 1: Send me a voice memo Jeff at Great Game orw

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Speaker 1: dot com. That's the email and just record into your

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 1: phone sixty seconds or last why you are a seam

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Speaker 1: head and end it with I'm Jeff Kirkshin and I

636
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Speaker 1: am a seamhead, and today, Dad, we have JD. Schulton,

637
00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: who is a representative of the United States of America,

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00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: who is a seam head, who also will I'll let

639
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: him explain it better that he is a professional baseball

640
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,840
Speaker 1: player in independent baseball. So let's take a listen.

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Speaker 3: This is Iowa State Representative of JD. Shulton. Then, first,

642
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:36,919
Speaker 3: I just got to say that having a father son

643
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 3: podcast about baseball is pretty darn cool because my dad

644
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: taught me everything I know about the game. He coached

645
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 3: high school in college for nearly forty years and we

646
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 3: still talk baseball almost every single day. Last summer, when

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Speaker 3: what started as an emergency start with less than three

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Speaker 3: hours notice to sticking around the SIU City Explorers for

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Speaker 3: the rest of the season and tying the team lead

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Speaker 3: for wins at forty four years old, was pretty darn

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Speaker 3: and special and also the only politician to play professional

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Speaker 3: baseball while actively serving in the legislature. So when I

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Speaker 3: won reelection last fall, I immediately reached out to baseball

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Speaker 3: academies in the Des Moines area to see if I

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Speaker 3: could train there during the legislative session, and I worked

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Speaker 3: my tailoff in this offseason to put myself in a

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Speaker 3: position to play one last year. In fact, the last

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Speaker 3: day of the legislative session, we ended, we worked through

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Speaker 3: the night, and ended at six thirty in the morning. Well,

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Speaker 3: the previous day at four thirty, there was a bill

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Speaker 3: that got kicked down to one of the committees, and

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Speaker 3: I knew I had an hour and a half because

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Speaker 3: I was not on that committee window, and so I

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Speaker 3: went to one of these academies, got a bullpen in,

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Speaker 3: made it back to the legislature, and then worked through

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Speaker 3: the night. I'm so grateful for the opportunity that the

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Speaker 3: SUSID Explores and the American Association have given me, and

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Speaker 3: this week has been incredibly unique. On Sunday, I was

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Speaker 3: activated on the roster with the Ex's for the first

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Speaker 3: time this year. On Monday, I launched our campaign for

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Speaker 3: US Senate here in Iowa, and on Tuesday I got

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Speaker 3: my first outing, going inning and a third of scoreless baseball.

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Speaker 1: You could get a shout out just like Representative Shulton here,

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Speaker 1: email me Jeff at great game or what dot com?

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Speaker 1: How great is that?

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Speaker 2: Dad? Yeah, it's so good. And independent leagues, Jeff are

677
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 2: so great because it usually gives a last chance to

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Speaker 2: somebody who has no chance to make it, and they

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00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,960
Speaker 2: can finally show it. I remember a guy named Jack

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Speaker 2: Doherty with the Rangers who played in the eighties. Great guy,

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Speaker 2: hilariously funny, and he got signed and went to an

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Speaker 2: independent league and he was He was signed by the

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Speaker 2: Rangers out of an independent league, so he got noticed,

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Speaker 2: which is almost impossible. And he told me that when

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Speaker 2: he went to the tryout for the independent league, he said,

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Speaker 2: I was taking ground balls next to a guy who

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Speaker 2: was wearing dress shoes and a collared shirt, and he said, boy,

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Speaker 2: I think I might be in the wrong place. But

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Speaker 2: he he got a chance to play pro after going

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Speaker 2: to that tryout, and the independent league was where he

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00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: went and then ended up eventually the Major league. So

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Speaker 2: we love the independent league.

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Speaker 3: JD.

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Speaker 2: Keep pitching, man, it's really good.

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Speaker 1: And thank you so much for that. And if you

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Speaker 1: want to be a part of it, send a voice

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Speaker 1: memo Jeff at Great Game or dot com Dad. From

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Speaker 1: Ozzie to Oral, we're counting down the best players from

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Speaker 1: one to fifty five, and today a very difficult one.

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Speaker 1: This will cause eruptions on social media. In our comments

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Speaker 1: number twenty one, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, this is this is impossible. I have chosen. I

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Speaker 2: have chosen Warren Spawn over Roberto Clementy, and I can't

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Speaker 2: even begin to tell you how painful that is. And

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Speaker 2: I will get smashed from coast to coast on this.

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Speaker 2: Let's be clear. Roberto Clemeny's one of the greatest players ever.

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Speaker 2: He is a hero in so many different ways. But

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Warren Spawn here. God, this is

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Speaker 2: so hard. Warren Spawn won three hundred and sixty three games, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: That's the fifth most of all time, most ever by

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Speaker 2: a left handed pitcher. He won twenty games, thirteen times,

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Speaker 2: thirteen different seasons. He won twenty games. He completed three

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Speaker 2: hundred and eighty two games in his career. He completed,

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Speaker 2: Jeff eighty five games in his age forty years on

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Speaker 2: eighty five complete games. Just keep in mind, different game,

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Speaker 2: different time, different industry. The leader in complete games right

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Speaker 2: now is Justin Verlander with twenty six. Warren Spahn had

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Speaker 2: eighty five in his age forty year and above. That's

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Speaker 2: how durable he was. And again he was a military hero. Also,

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Speaker 2: he missed the forty three through forty five seasons because

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Speaker 2: he was overseas and he didn't really get started with

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Speaker 2: his major league career until age twenty five. He was

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Speaker 2: on the bridge at Ramagan when Allied Forces crossed the

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Speaker 2: Rhine for the first time in nineteen forty five. So

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Speaker 2: as much as I love Roberto Clementy on every level

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Speaker 2: and anyone who says it needs to be Clementy, no

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Speaker 2: argument here. Warren spond is one of the greatest pitchers

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Speaker 2: in Major League history and a war hero on top

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Speaker 2: of that. Can't debate that.

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Speaker 1: Dad. I know that's a tough one for you. You

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Speaker 1: made a good argument, though.

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Speaker 2: Look I came up with the game Ozzie to orl.

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Speaker 2: You got to make some difficult decisions, and that is

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Speaker 2: the most difficult decision of them all.

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Speaker 1: Maybe another difficult decision though. Best of all, Tim, I

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Speaker 1: give you a different organization every single week, and you

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Speaker 1: tell me who is the greatest player to play for

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Speaker 1: that franchise? Dad, the Cardinals this week.

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Speaker 2: Well, I had to go with an easy one because

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Speaker 2: it was so tumultuous picking somebody over Roberto Clementy at

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Speaker 2: twenty one. So I'm going with Stan Musial. Of course,

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Speaker 2: He's the greatest Cardinal ever. He's arguably one of the

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Speaker 2: four greatest hitters of all time. Again my list, you

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Speaker 2: could go Ruth Williams, Barry Bonds, and Stan Musial and

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Speaker 2: feel pretty good about things. Forget about Barry Bonds and

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Speaker 2: everything else. But the number is oh boy, Stan yusuil

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Speaker 2: three thirty one lifetime Jeff four hundred and seventy five

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Speaker 2: homers ops of nine seventy six. He won three MVPs,

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Speaker 2: finished second in the MVP four different times. He made

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Speaker 2: twenty He was twenty four time All Star. Now they

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Speaker 2: used to play two All Star Games in a certain year,

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Speaker 2: depending on the year. He won seven batting titles, Jeff.

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Speaker 2: And in the fifty five All Star Game, Jeff, he

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00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: comes to the plate. It's the twelfth inning, and he

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Speaker 2: looks at Yogi Berra, the American League catcher who has

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Speaker 2: caught the entire All Star Game. It's the twelfth inning.

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Speaker 2: He looks at Yogi and he says, Yogi, I'm tired.

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Speaker 2: Time to go home. And he hit a home run

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Speaker 2: off Frank Sullivan to end the All Star Game. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's who Stan Musial was. Again, We've told you he

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Speaker 2: had thirty six hundred and thirty hits eighteen fifteen at home,

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Speaker 2: eighteen fifteen on the road exactly, which is just incredible.

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Speaker 2: And I say this all the time. Nineteen forty three, Jeff,

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Speaker 2: twenty triples, eighteen strikeouts for the entire season. Guys strike

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Speaker 2: out eighteen times in a week. Now, Jeff, without exaggeration,

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Speaker 2: eighteen strikeouts for a season, and a season in which

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Speaker 2: hit with great power and hit twenty triples more triples

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Speaker 2: than strikeouts.

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Speaker 1: Impossible, Dad, I know that was a tough one for

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Speaker 1: people who might make the argument, Who's number two is

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Speaker 1: Albert Pooholes in the conversation here.

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Speaker 2: Well, now you're getting into really hard questions. I think

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Speaker 2: Bob Gibson is the second greatest Cardinal ever because he

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Speaker 2: spent his entire career with the Cardinals. He's the most

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Speaker 2: ferocious pitcher that I've ever seen in my life. And

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Speaker 2: I think there's a case, at least it's an argument.

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Speaker 2: If you had one pitcher in Major League history to

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Speaker 2: pitch Game seven of the World Series, it could be

779
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Speaker 2: Sandy Kofax, it'd also be Bob Gibson. That's how great

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Speaker 2: he was, especially in his prime.

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Speaker 1: All right, Dad, Well, next week on the podcast, we

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Speaker 1: have a really exciting guest. So this Sunday is Father's Day, right,

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Speaker 1: So a happy early Father's Day to you.

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Speaker 2: Dad, and to you Jeff wearing your dad hat.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much, very excited for that, and in

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Speaker 1: spirit of Father's Day. Next week joining us on the

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Speaker 1: podcast will be Cal Ripkin Junior and his son Ryan

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Speaker 1: Ripkin gonna be our guests.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't wait, Jeff. Their average height is six'.

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Speaker 2: Five our average height is five to. Five So i've

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Speaker 2: checked With frank from The elias. Already it's the biggest

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Speaker 2: disparity in height between a father son combo doing a

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Speaker 2: podcast and another father son combo doing the same. PODCAST

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Speaker 2: i don't know how he found, that but it's. True.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah our guests last year for Five day it

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Speaker 1: Was Karl ravich and his Son Sam, ravich both, great great.

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Speaker 1: Broadcasters of, course you AND krl have worked, together oh my,

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Speaker 1: gosh thirty years, now, almost, yes, exactly and that height

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Speaker 1: disparity for us was not that, big so we felt

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Speaker 1: a little bit more at home with. Them But, dad

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Speaker 1: we Had Cal Ripken. Jr on the show last year by, himself,

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Speaker 1: right and now with his son. On i'm so curious

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Speaker 1: to talk to him a little bit about them playing hoops.

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Speaker 1: Together And ryan is an obviously son Of calvirican junior great,

805
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Speaker 1: athlete but was a really good athlete in his day,

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Speaker 1: too duncan on his dad on the basketball.

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Speaker 2: Court, Well, jeff he played professional baseball for years, sake

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Speaker 2: and he was a great high school basketball player who

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Speaker 2: was going To South carolina to play multiplay baseball and.

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Speaker 2: Basketball that's how good a basketball player he. Was so,

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Speaker 2: Yeah i'm sure we will Ask ryan rip when's the

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Speaker 2: last time he dunked on his? Father and of course

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Speaker 2: we'll Ask Cal junior when's the last time he dunked

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Speaker 2: on his?

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Speaker 1: Son AND i can't wait to bring, in you, know

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Speaker 1: stories From Cal Ripken. Jr about his Dad senior that

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Speaker 1: he's going to be bringing. Up it's going to be

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Speaker 1: just an awesome uniting of fathers and. Sons so to

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Speaker 1: all of the dads out, there a happy Early Father's

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Speaker 1: day from our father and son Podcast. DAD a happy

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Speaker 1: Early Father's day to, You. Dad last, year my daughter

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Speaker 1: McKinley got you a baseball with her handprint on, it

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Speaker 1: SO i have a little something for you from her

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Speaker 1: again this year as A Happy Father's day from your sweet.

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Speaker 2: Granddaughter, well thank, You, jeff and you're doing a great

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Speaker 2: job as a. Father i'm so proud of. You you

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Speaker 2: keep up the good. Work, okay, well thank You.

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Speaker 1: Dad that means a whole lot coming from you because

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Speaker 1: you're my. Hero, well thank you all so much for.

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Speaker 1: Listening hope you enjoy a Great Father's day, weekend and as,

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Speaker 1: always thank you for being a part of our. Family no,

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Speaker 1: Heads lea