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Speaker 1: Let's let's do it. Let's do it. Danny mcraig is here,

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Speaker 1: HECKM Harrison is here, Barry Churches here, I am New

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Speaker 1: are now on year twenty seven, Dallas Cowboys not participating

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Speaker 1: in a super Bowl. Well no, now we're year twenty eight.

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Speaker 1: Bro Hey, come out like that though we didn't had

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Speaker 1: two shows in the Super Bowl game on now you okay?

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Speaker 1: All right? Yeah, Maxwell, I'm actually working out a column

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Speaker 1: comment and I'm just like you know, we and and

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Speaker 1: it was inspired by you guys here and the Hopium,

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Speaker 1: the Hope, the Hopium dangerous drab freshout yeah freshot you

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Speaker 1: out of hope fresh shout, you'll refuel. It's a year,

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Speaker 1: it comes, it comes, Craft time, Draft time. Shut up,

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Speaker 1: I got the cheese, Give me that draft Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: Get Thursday, Thursday six before the draft, draft starts. Hit me,

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Speaker 1: hit me, don't know nobody draft like the Cowboys. Cowboys

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Speaker 1: talk three drafted team. But yes, then I second. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So all season fans frustrated, you know, fred to frustrated,

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Speaker 1: and and you know what, we gon w to int

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Speaker 1: into the combine and then we're getting ready for the drag.

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Speaker 1: We will we can we all going back in, all

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Speaker 1: going back in free agency. We we're gonna be right there.

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Speaker 1: Jerry's got this thing down. Man, We're back there. So no, um,

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Speaker 1: most of us okay, alright, the fan base, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: fan base, so like the fan base is gonna gonna

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Speaker 1: go right back in. You say you quitting. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's like the people that said, you know, well, I'm

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Speaker 1: not watching the NFL but kneeling record ratings guy rocketing.

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Speaker 1: Oh so you didn't want so you won't watch? Okay,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Everybody everybody watch watch so yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: um And amongst that that that hopium last night, I

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Speaker 1: want to get you guys thoughts because Jerry talked about

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Speaker 1: drafting the quarterback out and maybe the senior bone Nowadam.

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Speaker 1: He mentioned that Max Duggin of TCU is the most

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Speaker 1: impressive quarterback he saw down there. I talked to Max

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Speaker 1: last night the Dave O'Brien Awards, So gentlemen, the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: happened to use the pick on Max dugg and go

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Speaker 1: around and we start with your church thoughts. It depends

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Speaker 1: on what round we're talking, Like mac d you know,

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Speaker 1: he's he's a good quarterback. He's a good quarterback. If

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Speaker 1: we're talking you know, maybe second, third day, you know,

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Speaker 1: fourth through seven round. I'm okay with that. Day three,

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Speaker 1: a top three rounds on Max duck and I just

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be he's gonna go down as

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Speaker 1: one of the better college quarterbacks in the game. I

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Speaker 1: just don't see his game translating to the pros like that.

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Speaker 1: And you know, we've seen a cap in time and

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Speaker 1: time again. You know, you see a Tebow wi there,

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Speaker 1: not saying any but I think he's a better passor

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Speaker 1: fan of four through seven. Third day we can you know,

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Speaker 1: But as far as you know a day one or

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Speaker 1: day two, I'm not a huge fan of that. I

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Speaker 1: was hoping you wasn't going with that crazy article about

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Speaker 1: nerd to put that on. Who's that? Yeah, that's crazy.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's crazy, But I'm not look not in

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Speaker 1: attaining that. I'm going to where you're going with Duggan.

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Speaker 1: with BC on that, you know, third third day guy,

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Speaker 1: And look, man, Cooper Rush, I ain't done on Cooper Rush.

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Speaker 1: talking about Duggan. We act like this man didn't come

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Speaker 1: great team. I know that's so. But when you think

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Speaker 1: remember that that is the case. The guy was playing

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Speaker 1: though the most hype player was Carson Winson and Jason

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Speaker 1: Garret and the Cowboys coaching staff coached him. But we

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Speaker 1: saw and heard some of those same type of things.

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Speaker 1: But the thing you kept hearing about Dak Prescott that

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Speaker 1: I heard about Max Duggan was he was a leader

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Speaker 1: as far as talent goes, I think he has it all.

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Speaker 1: So I think that would be a more interesting prospect

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Speaker 1: lot of negative things to say about him. Yeah. One

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Speaker 1: don't want to I'm former players. I don't want to

425
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Speaker 1: hit on the running backs. But that stuff they were

426
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Speaker 1: saying about running backs and how long they last, it's true.

427
00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,800
Speaker 1: It's true. He's coming out a grucial. It's true. So

428
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Speaker 1: as good as as good as a running back and

429
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Speaker 1: be in the first two three years, you know that

430
00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 1: year four, year five, that you're gonna have a significant

431
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Speaker 1: drop off and there's gonna be another guy who's coming

432
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Speaker 1: in who you're gonna have to look at him pan

433
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 1: as well. So if I had to do one Tony

434
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 1: Polaver right now, I'm like, I don't know, man, I

435
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:30,920
Speaker 1: need to know how what what's the return looked like?

436
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:34,440
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna basis off of past behavior of the

437
00:21:34,520 --> 00:21:37,520
Speaker 1: cowboys in the franchise tag. They have tagged the wrong

438
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:42,840
Speaker 1: guys just continuously or not worked out a deal instead

439
00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: of giving the guy franchise tag. And for me, if

440
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Speaker 1: I'm talking to Jerry Jones and I speak the King's

441
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 1: language fluently, but I would say I wouldn't give not now, nuther,

442
00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 1: not now. Not a franchise tag would be an issue

443
00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: this year, are anytime soon, unless we're talking about the

444
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,760
Speaker 1: big briefcase now, he will get French attacked because he's

445
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,359
Speaker 1: not going anywhere if we can't work this out. But

446
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Speaker 1: any of these other guys, I mean, even with Tony Pollard,

447
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 1: what I would do is I would try to treat

448
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,520
Speaker 1: it as though Tony Poler didn't have the injury. I

449
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:17,840
Speaker 1: would allow him to test the market to see what's

450
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 1: out there, because teams are going to be able to

451
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: dictate that to you, all right, so allow him, uh

452
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 1: that courtesy. But I wouldn't, man, I wouldn't be in

453
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Speaker 1: a situation, especially not for safety. Fourteen million million linebacker.

454
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Speaker 1: There's no way, There's no way I wouldn't. The only

455
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Speaker 1: one you could do is ten. That's it. That's it

456
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Speaker 1: that with character went up and you still and that

457
00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: would be last result for me. That would be like

458
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 1: the eleventh hour and this and that's gonna help Zeke

459
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Speaker 1: with his USA. Like, man, so what we're doing. Look,

460
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Speaker 1: I'm with your heck on this one. I'm not passing

461
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Speaker 1: in the hour. I'm not passing any especially after the

462
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:55,240
Speaker 1: numbers out of unseen when you got linebackers hitting twenty

463
00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: you know, safeties four and fourteen and a half. I mean,

464
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Speaker 1: there's no ridiculous right now. So I'm not franchise tagging anybody,

465
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:03,560
Speaker 1: you know when it comes down to to to polar

466
00:23:03,640 --> 00:23:06,120
Speaker 1: which is the only you know scenario where I would

467
00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: throw one out there if it was forced to. Look,

468
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:11,560
Speaker 1: I'm saying, polot man, I'm bringing Polo back. And if

469
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, if our guy, you know, Zeke isn't isn't

470
00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 1: willing to take that cut, then gotta let back Goones,

471
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: be back ones, let him get the role. Because I

472
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Speaker 1: feel like depending on how well Tony can come back

473
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Speaker 1: from this injury, which he's young, he's young, I think

474
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Speaker 1: he can bounce back and so I have that explosiveness.

475
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:27,639
Speaker 1: I think he's shown to everybody that he can be

476
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Speaker 1: that bell cow back. I think he I think those

477
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: days of people thinking he can't take the beating, you

478
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 1: only got to give him fifteen touches per game or

479
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: you'll you'll max him out, I think those thoughts are gone.

480
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 1: I think he's gotten to the point I really broken.

481
00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:43,640
Speaker 1: He was like, you know, brse call back back tack.

482
00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:44,879
Speaker 1: I mean it was a I think it was more

483
00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:46,440
Speaker 1: of a fluke than a than a than a wear

484
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Speaker 1: down injury. I came four four years for eighty year

485
00:23:53,280 --> 00:24:01,400
Speaker 1: with the franchise, that being ten yeah, ten he trying

486
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: to get him on the watch always. Let's gonna target prices.

487
00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 1: I'm gonna target prices, y'all, y'a think he's gonna get

488
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,919
Speaker 1: more than that? Ten? Hold on on, so y'all think

489
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 1: he gonna get more than that on the market, he

490
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: gonna have to. I think you'll get more that he

491
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 1: get at least even with the broken leg. What somebody

492
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Speaker 1: gonna say like he's gonna be able to come back

493
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,760
Speaker 1: off that? You said it was, It wasn't. But now

494
00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: he made eight. He better be calling somebody NFLPA because

495
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,399
Speaker 1: he gonna be yes. And who would not trying to

496
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Speaker 1: work their own deal that Richard Shervy like man, I

497
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:45,959
Speaker 1: don't think you need to go. They would p wouldn't

498
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Speaker 1: to let him do that. Ten, let's do ten. That's

499
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Speaker 1: young man over the dollar t I can't hold on

500
00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:04,480
Speaker 1: the number ten point one. He gonna be the lower.

501
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,400
Speaker 1: But hold on, hold on. We're talking about a guy

502
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:09,480
Speaker 1: that definitely, you know, he wasn't a starter, though we

503
00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 1: are saying like the guy was. You know, he had

504
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,400
Speaker 1: he had a great season. He had a great season

505
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. But let's just say, did he get a thousand?

506
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: But I don't. I still, I'm still there's still a

507
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,239
Speaker 1: question mark for me about the bill call back if

508
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Speaker 1: you if you like, if you go to a running team,

509
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: this dude gonna take twenty twenty two carries a game.

510
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:28,080
Speaker 1: But see, I don't think he would. I think he

511
00:25:28,119 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: would be more suitable and like a how McCaffrey is

512
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: used in San Francisco right now, kind of like they

513
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: passed them running him a little bit half somebody there

514
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: to spell him as well. I think he would go

515
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 1: to a team in that regard. But you know, I'm

516
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: still thinking eight ain't too bad a pass catching guy.

517
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,800
Speaker 1: He out here and running and you know, doing all that.

518
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 1: He only get eight how much one year? Though? This

519
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:57,160
Speaker 1: is one year ten one for running back? But what's

520
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 1: the salary captain ship? How much should be going up? Crazy?

521
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,560
Speaker 1: It was like, and the Cowboys are seven million projected

522
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,639
Speaker 1: seven million over the cap right now. So let me

523
00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: tell you something. We are we already know. I've been saying,

524
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: I've been telling, come on, you're already now, you can

525
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,240
Speaker 1: save a lot. They try, they're gonna try to say

526
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Speaker 1: something with it, you know what. Come on, So we're

527
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,919
Speaker 1: talking about Tony Pollard. If We're being just realistic and honest.

528
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,680
Speaker 1: He's a part time player. It's really good part time player,

529
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 1: but he's not a full time player. In his pass

530
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Speaker 1: bro is not good. What would you say he's a

531
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Kamara or would you not even put him up there

532
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 1: that moment because you know Kamar splits with you know

533
00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:36,159
Speaker 1: those guys in there, say not at all, because na

534
00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:40,040
Speaker 1: Man Kamara is so dynamic as a pass sketching running

535
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Speaker 1: back and running the ball. I would look not to

536
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: take anything away from Tony Pollard. This is what I'm saying.

537
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 1: As far as the market is concerned, I think Jared's

538
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: already set the market at the running back position before.

539
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: You don't want to do it again. All right, you're

540
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: not gonna do it again. The biggest, the biggest decision

541
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Speaker 1: that you have to make is only Ezekieli. Then will

542
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,480
Speaker 1: he be here next year? Kansas City? All the teams

543
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:03,440
Speaker 1: that played in the playoffs showed you the success to

544
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: the running game. Bring in some three, some four or

545
00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:09,080
Speaker 1: fifth round guys, even some undrafted free agent guys. They

546
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: can get it done for you. But this whole notion

547
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,760
Speaker 1: of you gotta have that one guy that can do it,

548
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: like the Jacobs the you know, I think all of

549
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,640
Speaker 1: those days are slowly dissipated into another team brings it back,

550
00:27:19,760 --> 00:27:22,200
Speaker 1: and I don't see him to you something that that

551
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: CMC he a different guy. Christian McCarver is a different guy.

552
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: And I think on any team, his ability to run

553
00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 1: the run the ball, between the tackles, catch the ball,

554
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:35,920
Speaker 1: and create mismatches, I think he's pretty much one of

555
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:37,959
Speaker 1: a kind. And he's been doing it long enough when

556
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:39,680
Speaker 1: you're like, oh, he ain't slowing down yet, and he

557
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:41,920
Speaker 1: deal with injuries and he still comes back. But when

558
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: when San fran got him, we was all like, oh wait,

559
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 1: that's it's about to be nasty over there in San

560
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,000
Speaker 1: franc I think Christian laughter is such a different beast.

561
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,360
Speaker 1: It's hard to compare a lot of people to him

562
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,680
Speaker 1: and what he does and also what you just the

563
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 1: point that you just made his durability, I think that's

564
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,119
Speaker 1: the biggest issue, but us of his talent level and

565
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 1: him running outside. I think Shanahan last year he showed

566
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,040
Speaker 1: you that he even has to think differently about Christian

567
00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: McCaffrey and how he uses him instead of the kind

568
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: of running scheme that he wants to use which is

569
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:15,119
Speaker 1: pounded inside the tackles and cemc ain't that Hey, why

570
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: why are we talking about McCaffrey. I just want to

571
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: give a shout out to the dunk contest. When we

572
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,720
Speaker 1: got McCaffrey, then the man come out here when the

573
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,199
Speaker 1: dunk uns, it was a big top dunk. Y'all hit

574
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 1: on the gap, all three of them. I'm not I'm

575
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: not that cain't jump a remake coming out. He absolutely no,

576
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 1: he but he crushed it. He crushed it. He crushed it.

577
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640
Speaker 1: But it just what it just pains me to see

578
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: this old school. We know he didn't give old school.

579
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: The dunk contest is just man, dude, it's it's horrible.

580
00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: The mad and Lebron he didn't do it. They put

581
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: it all out. You want to see Lebron in the

582
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 1: dunk contest went up there. Now, he didn't do what

583
00:28:57,760 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 1: he was younger than he made. All the stars not

584
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: do it. Not that man. Y'all gonna hate on him anyway,

585
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do. I hate he's away for the reason

586
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 1: I hate on the runt. Yeah. Look, I mean, look, man,

587
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 1: All Star Game in general, it's garbage. So it isn't

588
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 1: that all Star Weekend, ain't though I better. Okay, Christ

589
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 1: McCaffrey is different, though he is, he's very different. I

590
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: don't think there's any comparison to what he is doing

591
00:29:22,440 --> 00:29:24,280
Speaker 1: as far as they pass Catcher and being able to

592
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: run in between the tackles outside on stretches and zone reads.

593
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,479
Speaker 1: But his durability is an issue. And now Tony Pollard

594
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: that is. So let me throw this here. If they

595
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 1: franchise Tony Parks ten point one million dollars, if he's

596
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: making ten, we know you're gonna have to cut his

597
00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,600
Speaker 1: e Eliot's number down. What do you cut him down to?

598
00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: What is it? Is it twelve? He's at sixteen? Right?

599
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 1: And oh yeah, he's high number. So you got ten.

600
00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 1: So what are you gonna put put put Eliot down

601
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 1: for it. And we're gonna come by in this out.

602
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,520
Speaker 1: So we got ten point one? And what are you

603
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:02,120
Speaker 1: gonnayz I'm not answering that question. Not good because it'll

604
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: be outrageous. I'm not even gonna say it'll be a

605
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: good nay. I was wrong, m sixty sixteen, not twelve.

606
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 1: You were think of twelve. Ain't nobody paying him? Sixteen?

607
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 1: Got there on the street but I think he knows that.

608
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 1: I think if if he has people around and the

609
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,480
Speaker 1: that's really talking truth to him, I think he knows

610
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: that those days of sixteen are over and he ain't

611
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,640
Speaker 1: gonna touch sixteen, and if he wants to stay here,

612
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to take a significant cut, and it's

613
00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 1: gonna be somewhere in the ballpark of over half three

614
00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320
Speaker 1: to I'm saying, I'm saying over half. Yeah, yeah, over half.

615
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: So three to five million is gonna be his ball play.

616
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,800
Speaker 1: And that's and that's gonna take everything in him to

617
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: say I'm gonna stay here when I was just making sixteen,

618
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 1: now I'm making between three and five. What would he go?

619
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of teams off the top of Arizona.

620
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: They got James Connor, but the you know, I don't

621
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 1: think James Connor is the back that Zeke is. Carolina.

622
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,080
Speaker 1: They got the two, they got the two young Bucks,

623
00:30:56,120 --> 00:30:59,239
Speaker 1: over Rams, the Rams, the ms. Okay, yeah, I mean

624
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,760
Speaker 1: that's tough. That's a tough decision to make, especially I

625
00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: think I think the key thing is would be if

626
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: the team definitely franchise tag Tony Pollard, then that would

627
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: just mean the demise of you have to. And the

628
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: reason I bring that up because if you pit Tony

629
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 1: at ten and you say three to five, as you

630
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: brought up, do you are you ready to devote thirteen

631
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 1: to fifteen million dollars to a running back position? Here's

632
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: a lot when you're not a running team. When you're

633
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: not a running team, And you've seen the two teams

634
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Speaker 1: in this year's Super Bowl when without elite running backs

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Speaker 1: carry UM jacobs average. Jacob's average was four point nine,

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Speaker 1: far as just going back here and looking at um

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Speaker 1: Nacy Harris seventeen games, one thousand and thirty four yards,

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Speaker 1: um Ezekie Elliott fifteen games, eight hundred and seventy six yards.

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Speaker 1: when it comes to Zeke, you Elliott man, for all

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Speaker 1: don't worry about all that stuff in the off season.

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Speaker 1: I don't have to pay CD. You ordered them pay Gallup.

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Speaker 1: we got young Ferguson. We got the futures already here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: exactly ain't the same. I'm just telling no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: it ain't. It ain't just say if you're if you're

847
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:30,759
Speaker 1: gonna keep Dak Prescott here, Okay, it's tough for you

848
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Speaker 1: to say I'm gonna keep you and then get rid

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Speaker 1: of your favorite best target in your safety blanket, get

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Speaker 1: another one. Yeah, I mean, it's that easy where you

851
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: prioritizing things. So if you know, we say we need

852
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Speaker 1: helping the wide receiver when we gotta pay somebody emp

853
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,440
Speaker 1: over there, you know, tight end, we got the running

854
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: back situation, we need an offensive lineman. Then you go

855
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,759
Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Soe some guys in the trench.

856
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,839
Speaker 1: This is where you prioritized. Got some got you got

857
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: some guys that you need to you know, you got

858
00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 1: some guys, but you got you got, you got, you

859
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: got something, got some ways to free up some cap space,

860
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: all right, So let's not let's not act like we

861
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 1: got we got some guys. It's sixteen million dollars on

862
00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: running back that's got We just talked about how that's

863
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,360
Speaker 1: got to get He ain't the only one. Yeah, we

864
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,399
Speaker 1: can't do that. Thirteen million is just not gonna happen.

865
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:22,719
Speaker 1: I think it's nineteen. Yeah, we ain't going talk a

866
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: franchise tag of thirteen million for a tidy end and

867
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 1: a running back tag of ten million dollars. That's potentially

868
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:35,440
Speaker 1: twenty three million dollars for two spots. That's tough. And

869
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: they ain't the top of eight position. Are the three.

870
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: That's why I go. That's why I'm saying fergin him

871
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 1: the shot on the future. That's why I'm going at

872
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,719
Speaker 1: the tight end position. I mean, and they showed you enough.

873
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,800
Speaker 1: Ferguson showed you enough throughout the season. That dog he's

874
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 1: like that showed you. No, No, he showed you that.

875
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,680
Speaker 1: But when you scheme him up, he can find those

876
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 1: open spaces in that zone. We was asking. I was saying,

877
00:43:57,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: how the hell is he so open? He's the number

878
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 1: two receiver? Come on now, man, going to propo Being

879
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,880
Speaker 1: that he's a number two receive on the team, how

880
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: many big time catches I'm talking about over the shoulder

881
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: on the side, Like we said, oh man, we had

882
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: no idea that Dak was gonna be able to fit

883
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 1: that ball in there and how he was gonna catch

884
00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,680
Speaker 1: that you like. Man, that's Dalter shows ugging all day.

885
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 1: I go back to Blake Jarma. We thought Blake Jarmo

886
00:44:18,440 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: was gonna be that guy and then here comes Dalton

887
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: show to you. The cowboys, in my opinion, have shown

888
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,839
Speaker 1: you they can develop tight ends and in a marketplace

889
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,479
Speaker 1: where you've got limited dollars and in question marks across

890
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,799
Speaker 1: the roster. I'm going to loudon the Wells. I'm saying, yeah,

891
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: James handling them up here before then, So don't be

892
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:42,239
Speaker 1: talking about developing Jane handle wherever you had because knew

893
00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 1: you're not about to do that, and talk about y'all.

894
00:44:44,239 --> 00:44:46,239
Speaker 1: They had Blake jar because they was playing him. They

895
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: paid them, and then another guys came out and play back.

896
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:58,320
Speaker 1: Can I finish like lound the Wells. That why I

897
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 1: need you to take these two guys, get him to

898
00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:05,319
Speaker 1: another level and we're going to the draft another. When

899
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: Parcels was here, Parcels was all about that strays them

900
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,840
Speaker 1: do The connection that you got between adults and shows

901
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,520
Speaker 1: and Dak Prescott are not easy to find. And I'm

902
00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: not saying it's like a Travis Kelcey and Uhum Patrick.

903
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,960
Speaker 1: What you're liking but they have. That's the connection that

904
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: you have to your quarterback and it's fun. He's not

905
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,320
Speaker 1: a pro bowled player. I can't spend thirteen million dollars

906
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: even if I have the average. No, no, no, no, no,

907
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: I said he. I asked heck if he would offer

908
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 1: him something? He said no, no, I wouldn't. I would

909
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 1: offer him something and you don't take it. He don't

910
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 1: take it. I'm not paying him thirteen million year. You

911
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:42,600
Speaker 1: offered him last year and it was the same thing.

912
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 1: They said, Hey, look we made an offer, but he

913
00:45:44,840 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 1: and his agent wanted David and joke Wu type money

914
00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:49,400
Speaker 1: like you don't. We don't feel me back. He'll come

915
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:51,800
Speaker 1: back if he'll come back. When he hit the street,

916
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 1: he realized that offer was dang good. He'll come back

917
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 1: and he don't. He don't. But I'm gonna offer him something.

918
00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: He's going to the charges anyway. Man. That is that's

919
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 1: our show, that's our marke him out there game, get

920
00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 1: him right. Thank you, Barry Church. I'm saying thank you.

921
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: Dannyn Crab Movies. So what would you offer him? The

922
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 1: mac a year? Man? I'm not no gem okay, I

923
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 1: don't know, but it's thirteen minute six five six a year,

924
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,359
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, hold on. I told pol eight years,

925
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: y'all thank me for that. I want to tell me

926
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:30,359
Speaker 1: got the franchise though, Bro, he got franchise one time.

927
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:31,640
Speaker 1: Now he got a chance to go out there on

928
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 1: the market to see him. So if you are from

929
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: that and nobody else offer from, then he comes back

930
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: five six. Yeah, I said, I'm not a GM. I

931
00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 1: gotta look at the number rip. Look at twenty part

932
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Speaker 1: five and below. You got the man at the Salvation army. Yeah, man,

933
00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 1: thrill the store. Y'all let him leave. Ain't trying to

934
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: soap people were getting him out the Salvation Army. That's

935
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Speaker 1: why I'm starting. That's what I'm starting. I found any

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Speaker 1: six who be here that's started a showy, Hey, this

937
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: is a negotiations. Come back, come back with what you

938
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 1: want like they did tomorrow. I'm not dropping in. We'll

939
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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday right here on Dallas Cowboys get paid,

940
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 1: don't get paid shows. Man. Don't don't let them hate

941
00:47:12,719 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: on you, bro. Damn, that's tough sports. This has been

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