1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Hey there, folks, it is Monday, September twenty ninety and 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: if you want to perform at the Super Bowl halftime show, 3 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: you bet a ah blah some long glace And with that, 4 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,080 Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. What the 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 1: actual hell rolls? I said it. As soon as they 6 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 1: said bad Bunny. I had half a second that I 7 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,599 Speaker 1: was excited, and then we immediately went, oh God, here 8 00:00:25,640 --> 00:00:25,960 Speaker 1: we go. 9 00:00:26,520 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 2: There is a massive uproar specifically among the MAGA community. 10 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 2: And I don't want to say conservatives, because not all 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: conservatives are on board with this. It is very specific 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:42,160 Speaker 2: to some people within the far right, the MAGA group 13 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: that are extremely upset about bad Bunny. 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: We know that was coming. We knew that, we saw 15 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:49,680 Speaker 1: this coming. This is not just an artist who is 16 00:00:49,720 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 1: a Puerto Rican. This is a guy who, oh what 17 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: is it? Ninety five percent of his songs are not 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:58,600 Speaker 1: in English. 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: Correct, but you know them at least if you listen 20 00:01:01,640 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 2: to music. You know then because his music is everywhere 21 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:09,119 Speaker 2: and he has been wildly successful at bringing in people 22 00:01:09,240 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: from all different types of ethnicities. And regardless of what 23 00:01:15,760 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 2: actual language you speak, music is universal, is it not? 24 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:23,319 Speaker 2: And so he is one of those artists. Everyone runs 25 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 2: on the dance floor when his music comes on. 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: Period, So why so here we go? All right, super 27 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:31,280 Speaker 1: Bowl halftime performer is announced. This is actually earlier than 28 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: they have done in years past. We used to cover this, 29 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 1: and cover this, and cover this, and always wait. Sometimes 30 00:01:36,480 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: it has been as late as a December that we 31 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 1: have gotten were now Jay Z and Rock Nation his 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 1: company has been in charge of doing the Super Bowl 33 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: halftime show, producing it for the past at least five. 34 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: But since twenty nineteen, I believe that's when they contracted him. 35 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,240 Speaker 1: So he's been doing it. And quite frankly, yes, there 36 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,480 Speaker 1: has has there been a white person to performs since 37 00:01:57,480 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: to jay Z. Now there has not been a white artist. Okay, fine, 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 1: we'll get into all the artists who were before him 39 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: in just a second. But robes this guy, bad Bunny. 40 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,200 Speaker 1: The one of the most streamed artists on the planet, 41 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 1: one of the most successful artists on the planet. The 42 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 1: only competition he really has streaming wise might be Taylor 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift. A few years ago it might have been Drake, 44 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: but she is his only competition. If an artist that big, 45 00:02:27,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: this is a no brainer. Well, yeah, he's one of 46 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: the biggest stars in music. Of course he should have 47 00:02:31,440 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: this stage. Why is that not the end of it? 48 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 2: So that's where my head was, because yes, I feel 49 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 2: so naive now because you were very quick to say, 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 2: uh oh, this is not going to be good, and 51 00:02:41,480 --> 00:02:45,600 Speaker 2: I naively thought, why this is so cool? This is 52 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:48,480 Speaker 2: an not just an up and coming artist. And sure 53 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 2: maybe if you're of a certain age and you have 54 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:53,560 Speaker 2: very specific music tastes, you might not have heard his music. 55 00:02:53,600 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 2: I find that hard to believe. But okay, let's just 56 00:02:55,560 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 2: say you don't know who he is. How cool that 57 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 2: someone who has just rallied the world now gets a spotlight, 58 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 2: a national spotlight at the greatest sporting event in all 59 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 2: of the United States. I would say that's fair to say. 60 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 2: The super Bowl is the biggest sporting event of the 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: year in this country, period, biggest. 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 1: Event every year in the world. Most watch this is it, 63 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: this is happening, This guy gets it, and obviously, I say, obviously, Well, 64 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 1: maybe it is obvious to people. There are some that 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: are upset that the country is becoming too diverse, that 66 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 1: there is a majority minority. Now we have seen plenty 67 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: of folks want to kind of DEI scrub the country 68 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: to a certain degree, and that's coming out of the administration. 69 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: So with that as your backdrop, Now, football American sport, 70 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:47,840 Speaker 1: biggest game American culture. There is there anything more American 71 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: than the Super Bowl. 72 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: No, and the folks who are upset point to the 73 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: fact that most of his songs are not in English, 74 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 2: that he does dress in a gender bending way. He 75 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 2: has been pictured many times in dresses, and they're throwing 76 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,119 Speaker 2: all those pictures up there. His face has been bejeweled 77 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,440 Speaker 2: with rhinestones and pearls, and he's worn makeup. And so 78 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:14,400 Speaker 2: they're now saying men are under attack. White people are 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 2: under attack. You know, English speaking songs are under attack. 80 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 2: You know, they wanted Taylor, they wanted Dolly. There were 81 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 2: all sorts of people saying, we thought these people might 82 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 2: get a chance. 83 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: I'd be okay with them too. Yes, I have no 84 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 1: problem with diversities. Now, if you all let's start, I 85 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 1: guess let's start with the basics. And we have comments, 86 00:04:33,440 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 1: and you plucked plenty, and some of them are you 87 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: can't believe what you're reading. But we need to start 88 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: with this robes. 89 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,680 Speaker 2: Just some facts his credentials before we get into his. 90 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: Credentials, can we get into his citizenship? 91 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 2: Yeah? 92 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: Yes. 93 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,479 Speaker 2: And it's so funny because I actually didn't think this 94 00:04:51,640 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 2: was necessary until I started reading the comments, and I 95 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 2: started reading them to you, and I said, do people 96 00:04:57,360 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: not think he's American? He is Puerto Rican? Puerto Ricana. 97 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:07,359 Speaker 2: Puerto Rico is a US territory. Puerto Ricans are American citizens, 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 2: and in fact, they have right to be upset because 99 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:13,080 Speaker 2: they don't have representation in Congress, and yet they're still 100 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:17,640 Speaker 2: subject to and guaranteed rights as citizens of the United 101 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,360 Speaker 2: States of America. If anyone has traveled to Puerto Rico, 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 2: which we have had the amazing opportunity to do, so, 103 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 2: you don't have to bring your passport because once again, 104 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 2: you're on American soil when you're in Puerto Rico. Period. 105 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 2: Let's clear that up. 106 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: But there is a whole host of comments you can 107 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:43,159 Speaker 1: find about deporting the guy, or denying him. 108 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 2: A visa, entrigue, arresting him in the middle, we'll get 109 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 2: I think it's more funny just to read what people wrote, 110 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,440 Speaker 2: because but my jaw dropped and then it was just 111 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 2: one after the other. I put three examples in just 112 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 2: to give you the diversity of the ignorance. But it's 113 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: wild and hurling insults. They're actually showcasing their ignorance. 114 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:07,359 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, so let's go back. You said Bad Bunny. 115 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: You had to have heard the name at this point, 116 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: and even if you're not, fine, here's an opportunity to 117 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 1: learn something. We and we'll full disclosure here. We don't 118 00:06:16,880 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: have Bad Bunny constantly streaming on our playlist. He is 119 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: not one of our necessarily top artists we listen to. However, 120 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,960 Speaker 1: we got plenty of songs of his that you hear him. 121 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I didn't realize that was Bad Bunny. 122 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't realize it was him. The guy is 123 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: a phenomenal artist, now you can this is not just 124 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: us being subjective. He has a resume and credentials to 125 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 1: back up. Why at thirty one years old, he just 126 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 1: did a multi hundred million dollar residency in Puerto Rico. 127 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:53,919 Speaker 1: This guy is music right now. Of course he should be. 128 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 2: And I love that he is going to potentially even 129 00:06:56,839 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: bring a new set of fans who might not have 130 00:06:59,200 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 2: watched the Super Bowl to the game itself. So how 131 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,359 Speaker 2: cool is that that we can have more eyes and 132 00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:08,160 Speaker 2: more fans of a pastime that US Americans love and 133 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: present parties included. You're huge football fans, and this guy is. 134 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: He puts on extravagant show. It's so it's going to 135 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 1: be special to watch. And we told you he's one 136 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: of the most streamed artists on the planet. But get this, 137 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: he is the only artist to do this. He went 138 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 1: back to back to back years as the number one 139 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: most streamed artists on Spotify. There is not another artist 140 00:07:29,600 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: on the planet who's done that. 141 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: Not even Taylor Sweat, not even her. He's the only 142 00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:36,440 Speaker 2: artist to ever have a number one album on Billboard 143 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 2: Charts in Spanish. 144 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: That is unbelievable. 145 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:42,760 Speaker 2: Right there you go. Because music translates. Music is a 146 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: universal language. That is why so many of us love music, 147 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 2: because you don't have to know even what the lyrics 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 2: are or what the words. We hell half the song 149 00:07:52,600 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: sung in English. These days, I don't even know what 150 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: the lyrics are, but I like the song. I have 151 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: to look them up. He's a three time Grammy winner. 152 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 2: He's the first person to have a Spanish language album 153 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: nominated for a Grammy for Album of the Year. 154 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 1: That is incredible. That is the most important category. At 155 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,239 Speaker 1: the Grammys. This wasn't a Latin Grammy here. 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 2: Look, we're seeing it at the Oscars too, where we 157 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 2: see foreign films actually being up for Best Picture. And 158 00:08:18,480 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: that's cool too, that we're all able to share in 159 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: the artistry and recognize good shit when we hear it 160 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 2: or see it, regardless of what country actually produces it 161 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,640 Speaker 2: or what language it's in. And you got anyone who 162 00:08:30,640 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 2: loves movies knows that foreign films are like, they're not 163 00:08:33,360 --> 00:08:38,719 Speaker 2: any They're not any less valued because they're not in English. 164 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: What do I remember Roma? 165 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so, I believe that did nodding. And 166 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 2: how about the Korean the Korean horror movie thank You exactly. 167 00:08:48,080 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 2: So I'm just saying this translates to different genres of art. 168 00:08:51,080 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 2: And this isn't the first time. Why is this so 169 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: shocking to people? I don't get it now. He actually 170 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: already made a halftime Super Bowl appearance. He showed up. 171 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I love the Jaelo Shakira halftime show. 172 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 2: That was in twenty twenty. That was jay Z's first 173 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 2: yes yes, because he took over after twenty nineteen, which 174 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: was Maroon five. So the first one was Jaylo and Shakira. 175 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:16,040 Speaker 2: I loved that performance, and Bad Bunny made an appearance. 176 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:20,439 Speaker 1: So again, it's gonna be interesting when we go through 177 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 1: and we read who the performers have been before and 178 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,320 Speaker 1: after jay Z took over. That's interesting to see. 179 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 2: But and being pointed out quite heavily. 180 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 1: And I'm okay with that, and we will discuss that. 181 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,720 Speaker 1: But I am okay. I feel think about the people 182 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: of Puerto Rico, how they must feel to know their 183 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: guy is going to be on this stage. That's a 184 00:09:42,080 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: really proud moment for Puerto Rico, as it should be, 185 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: and it's the pride and what they're going to feel. 186 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: And since I immediately so I don't even think I had 187 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 1: fifteen seconds to celebrate him being named. When we saw 188 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 1: it this morning, it was, oh God, we gotta go 189 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: through that. We gotta go through this fight. It's gonna 190 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: be nasty, it's going to be ugly. It's September. We 191 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 1: got to do this and through next February and then 192 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 1: the show is gonna happen. What you're gonna happen. You 193 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 1: have Boycott's, You're gonna have people going after the NFL. 194 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: You've already seen people canceling subscriptions and things like that. 195 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 1: And you brought up this point and not said, damn, 196 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 1: do we even say that out loud? But what we're 197 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,720 Speaker 1: talking about here, given all that we've seen, good God, 198 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: the super Bowl is already a one of the most 199 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: what do they call them a level They call it 200 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 1: super Bowl level security, but they call it as a 201 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: targeted event. They treat it as if it's like terrorist 202 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 1: I'm scar. 203 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: In this climate. I have a feeling he has to 204 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: be now you know, people lawyer up in some avenues. 205 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 2: He's gonna have to beef up his security. I mean, 206 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 2: it makes me nervous just where we are in this 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: world and what we're seeing. It feels like week after 208 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: week after week. Yes, and the. 209 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: Spanish language songs. 210 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 2: Well, it's also some of his comments that he's made 211 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,680 Speaker 2: about ice and about Trump and the fact that he look, 212 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 2: he's got this next big tour. He's announced it begins 213 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 2: at the end of this year, goes through the summer, 214 00:11:07,920 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 2: and he announced that he is not making any tour 215 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: stops in the United States out of fear that his fans, 216 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 2: some of his fans might be targeted by ice raids. 217 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: Now coming from again, this is a guy who's from 218 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: Puerto Rico. This is a guy who has been I 219 00:11:24,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: think you could call him an activist. He's been very 220 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: vocal about what he has seen happening to I mean 221 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,800 Speaker 1: folks he fills a kinship with, and he has spoken out. 222 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 1: That's okay. Now, folks will interpret the things he's saying 223 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: as anti Ice, therefore anti government and anti Trump. 224 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 2: But that doesn't mean he's anti American. That's the whole 225 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 2: premise by which America stands. On the fact that we 226 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,720 Speaker 2: get to say those things and still live freely, the 227 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: fact that we get to express our opinions even when 228 00:11:57,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 2: they're not popular or don't necessarily sit well with everyone. 229 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: That's what makes America America. Please, please, please, let's not 230 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 2: forget that. 231 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 1: But we have. It seems in these debates so often 232 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: there's only one type of America that some people think 233 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:14,199 Speaker 1: that should be, and it's got to be all white 234 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: all the time. And any attempt to be diverse, any 235 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: attempt to inject diversity of some kind or a culture 236 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: outside of what some feel is good all American culture 237 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: is a problem. 238 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 2: We're a melting pot. We just have forgotten that. Have 239 00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: we forgotten that? What did you say, if it ain't white, 240 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 2: it ain't right. 241 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: That's what the arguments have been. There's no other argument. Okay, 242 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 1: he shouldn't be there because he sings in Spanish. Okay, 243 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: that is that? Really it? Because America shouldn't be that, 244 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: you should only have one. That's when we there's some 245 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: artists that have done halftime shows. I don't like their music. 246 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,520 Speaker 1: I'm not going crazy about it. Okay, I don't like 247 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: your music. This is a thing where it seems like 248 00:12:58,760 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: people think so much of the country once again, is 249 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 1: being taken from them. Their position, their majority position, feels 250 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: like it's being taken. So it's not even about the 251 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: artists and don't like his music. It feels like some 252 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: kind of to them, an affront, a political statement, a 253 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: direct insult and attack on the America they want to see. 254 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:20,480 Speaker 2: That is absolutely what's going on. So I have to say, 255 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 2: I loved this. Let's let's let's make a positive beat here. 256 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny his statement that he made. I loved it 257 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,400 Speaker 2: after he was announced. I just thought it was sweet 258 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: and full of just passion and just really it was heartfelt. 259 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny said this what I'm feeling goes beyond myself. 260 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: It's for those who came before me and ran countless 261 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 2: yards so I could come in and score a touchdown. 262 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 2: This is for my people, my culture, and our history. 263 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 2: And then he went on, I won't try it in 264 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: Spanish to basically say, go tell your grandmother, we will 265 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: be the super Bowl halftime show. Very cute he said it, 266 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:55,439 Speaker 2: and he wrote it in Spanish. 267 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: And the announcement that video they made that was he 268 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 1: didn't speak in the video announcing it. 269 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 2: Showed him you didn't know where, but it was beautiful. 270 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 2: There was a beach around him and as the camera 271 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 2: pulls out you see he's sitting on a goalpost. It 272 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: was really cool. 273 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:16,920 Speaker 1: So our argument here it's not necessarily in favor of 274 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: or against. We're not is not this side or that 275 00:14:19,840 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: we just we sit here as Americans, and their's space 276 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:30,000 Speaker 1: for Bad Bunny and all of his fans to actually 277 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 1: be a part of America. We understand the problem that 278 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: some people have there should not be And I argue 279 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: as well, we've talked about this because we've seen the 280 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: attack in Dallas on the ice facility, where we talk 281 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: about anti ice rhetoric, there is some of it out there. 282 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 1: These are guys just doing their jobs. California wants them 283 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: to take their mask off when they're doing their job, 284 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: and all these things. It's serious. People were taking shots 285 00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: at ICE agents. Now when you put that or take 286 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: that into account, I could see how people who are 287 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: good meaning folks, yes, who just know ICE agents are 288 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: doing their job, or say, hey, these folks are some 289 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: of these folks are in the country illegally and they 290 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: are just doing their job and this is what should 291 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 1: be done. So to hear anti ice rhetoric, I could 292 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: see why they might have a problem. 293 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 2: So one of the several things are being put up 294 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 2: online and one of them as recently as June where 295 00:15:21,520 --> 00:15:24,200 Speaker 2: Bad Bunny did record and post a video. He was 296 00:15:24,560 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: taking video on his cell phone of ICE agents doing 297 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,920 Speaker 2: their job, and he was they were there in Puerto Rico, 298 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 2: and he just said, look at those mother efforts in 299 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 2: these cars raft fours. They're here in Pontezuela, sons of 300 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: bees instead of leaving the people alone and working there. 301 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 2: So he was taking video of ICE agents and was 302 00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 2: cursing and upset that they were targeting and going after 303 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: Hispanic folks. 304 00:15:50,440 --> 00:15:52,560 Speaker 1: Is there a space for both? Is there a space 305 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: for us to have a debate that somebody can see 306 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: those raids happening and go, yes, they are doing their jobs, 307 00:15:58,360 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: they are doing a good job, and this is for 308 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: the betterment of the country. That could be somebody on 309 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,320 Speaker 1: the other side looking at it with a different life 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: experience and legitimately be upset and speak about being upset 311 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: and maybe say something they wish they hadn't said. Whatever, 312 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: But it's their space for that debate without him being 313 00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: anti American and the other side being evil as well. 314 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: That's okay about that debate, that's not the one happening. 315 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 1: It is ugly, it is nasty, and when we come back, 316 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: we are going to let you hear exactly how ugly 317 00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: and nasty it is. Gotten And it hadn't even been 318 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:33,840 Speaker 1: twenty four hours yet. 319 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 2: Folks, welcome back to this edition of Amy and TJ. 320 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 2: We are talking about the NFL's decision to unnounce, and 321 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,840 Speaker 2: it was exciting for about thirty seconds that Bad Bunny 322 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:01,680 Speaker 2: would be the halftime show of this next year's Super Bowl, 323 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:06,159 Speaker 2: and there was an immediate celebration. Bad Bunny put out 324 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 2: a statement and sure his followers and fans, the millions 325 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 2: of them, all celebrated, but very quickly. We heard from 326 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: the other side a lot of people upset that this 327 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: particular artist was chosen to perform in this year's Super 328 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 2: Bowl for a number of reasons. And let me just 329 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: let them tell you, because they can say it better 330 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: than I can. So I saw Benny Johnson three point 331 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 2: nine million followers. This is what he tweeted almost immediately. 332 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: This is Bad Bunny. He was just announced as the 333 00:17:41,119 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Super Bowl halftime show. Massive trumpeter, anti 334 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 2: ice activist, no songs in English. He even canceled his 335 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 2: entire US tour for this reason. And then he quoted 336 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,640 Speaker 2: bad Bunny saying ething ice could be outside my concert 337 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 2: and it's something that we were talking about and very 338 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,679 Speaker 2: concerned about. Benny Johnson goes on to say the NFL 339 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:04,360 Speaker 2: is self destructing year after year, and then he shows 340 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: two pictures of Bad Bunny looking feminine with pearls and rhymestones. 341 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 2: Was the point of that, Yeah, So he just said that. 342 00:18:11,680 --> 00:18:15,320 Speaker 2: Then he let all of his followers just jump in. 343 00:18:15,560 --> 00:18:18,920 Speaker 2: So one follower, is this a joke? A dude calls 344 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 2: himself Bad Bunny. Let me guess his music is everywhere. 345 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 2: He's won ten Grammys and he's the hottest performer of 346 00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:28,359 Speaker 2: a generation, same as the last guy I never heard of. 347 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 2: He's referring to Kendrick Lamar. 348 00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: Obviously take that look for a second. Let's do this robes. 349 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: It is, why do people think people aren't deserving of 350 00:18:41,119 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: a platform because that person isn't in your circle? 351 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 2: So listen to this. 352 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,000 Speaker 1: What you haven't heard of him? 353 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, what you're just saying. His next and last line 354 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 2: is this, No, it's gonna speak right to what you 355 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 2: just said. So then he goes on to say, my 356 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:57,840 Speaker 2: question is do they even look in the stands or 357 00:18:57,840 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: do they only go by who is in this suite? 358 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 2: Which begs another question, who are the weirdos in the suites? 359 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,520 Speaker 2: So he does want this person, the performer, to reflect 360 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 2: and look like and be a part of what he 361 00:19:11,680 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 2: considers the football fan in the seats. 362 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 1: What's the viewership of the super Bowl? There were you 363 00:19:16,480 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: a hundred something millions? Hundred Okay, yeah, there's more than 364 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 1: just the people in the stands. Again, we're trying to 365 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: leave space and respect people's opinions. If you don't like 366 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:28,560 Speaker 1: him as a performer, if you don't want him there. 367 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 1: The next thing is what's important to me, why don't 368 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:33,080 Speaker 1: you want him there? 369 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 2: So listen to this one. This will be fearless, funny enough. 370 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 2: Is this person's name on Twitter? Or X says this? 371 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 2: So the NFL, already hemorrhaging credibility with endless political pandering, 372 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: just picked bad Bunny for the twenty twenty six halftime show, 373 00:19:47,920 --> 00:19:51,920 Speaker 2: a performer who who openly hates Trump, rails against ice, 374 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 2: and doesn't even sing in English translation. The league chose 375 00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 2: a man who openly disrespects half the country and its 376 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 2: laws to headline the biggest American sports stage. Forget unity, 377 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:07,479 Speaker 2: forget broad appeal, forget football culture. The NFL now treats 378 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: the Super Bowl like a diversity marketing seminar, where entertainment 379 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 2: value comes second to political symbolism. This isn't about music. 380 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 2: It's about the league bending the knee to cultural gatekeeper, 381 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: to cultural gatekeepers, while alienating the very fans who built 382 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 2: its empire. 383 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,359 Speaker 1: Are we still there with cultural gatekeepers? It seems like 384 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Trump is winning all those cultural war Everybody's scared to 385 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 1: death of this guy, Like I'm a little surprised, like 386 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: of all people to put on stage, you know, this 387 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,720 Speaker 1: is going to piss off Donald Trump. Of course it is, 388 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 1: so I wonder what the contract states. Does jay Z 389 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: have to get the blessing? Yes of Roger Goodett. 390 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 2: Everything I have read says yes, the NFL has to 391 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 2: sign off on it. So Roger Goodell did. Now I'm 392 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 2: going to read these three next ones in a row, 393 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 2: because this was what we referenced before we went to 394 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,400 Speaker 2: break at the top of the episode about people who 395 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: literally don't understand the Puerto Rico is America. Katie Kirk 396 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:04,080 Speaker 2: I don't know if that's her actual last name, but 397 00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 2: Katie Kirk says, could Marco Rubio deny his visa based 398 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 2: on his anti Ice rhetoric? No CAFU says, well, we 399 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 2: could deport him right, deport him right during the halftime show. 400 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: That would be good Who the hell listens to Bad 401 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:22,240 Speaker 2: Bunny anyway? And David Copp says Ice should deport him 402 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: as he takes the stage. Now, that would be a 403 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 2: Super Bowl halftime show we could all get behind. 404 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: Would lawsuit a riot? 405 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: It's he can't be arrested. He's American people, he is American. 406 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 2: That blew my mind. 407 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Surely people are going to take those down soon when 408 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,160 Speaker 1: they realize. 409 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 2: I don't know but this one got me too because 410 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,280 Speaker 2: I referenced all of the imagery that's out there of 411 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 2: bad Bunny now in dresses and looking feminine. Derek writes, 412 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 2: the next best thing to hurt your enemy is to 413 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:54,600 Speaker 2: hurt what they love. The super Bowl, for whatever reason, 414 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:57,439 Speaker 2: is one of the most American things we have left. 415 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 2: This is a kid in the nuts to NFL fans 416 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 2: and and males around the world. Oh my god, that's 417 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 2: just some insight into what people are not just thinking, 418 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 2: but putting down in writing and sending out for the 419 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 2: world to see. 420 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 1: What do we do, Babe, about the country that folks 421 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: don't think an American is welcome because the American sings 422 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: in Spanish. What do we do to bridge that divide? 423 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:29,679 Speaker 1: When you're saying this isn't welcome. You're not welcome to 424 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: be a part of our American culture. You American Puerto Rican, 425 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: You're not allowed to participate. 426 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 2: This is all we have left, That's what he says. 427 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,000 Speaker 1: So this is the whitest thing we have. I'm saying 428 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 1: the argument seemed to be nothing, but that is that 429 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 1: this thing is no longer. 430 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,399 Speaker 2: Ours with the predominantly black athletic h I mean, come on, 431 00:22:52,520 --> 00:22:55,000 Speaker 2: We're not this a white sport. What are you? Are 432 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 2: you kidding me? That's hilarious. 433 00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:00,919 Speaker 1: You're mad at the NFL. Stop watching You've got a 434 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:02,720 Speaker 1: problem with diversity. Stop watching the NFL. 435 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 2: Can I please put on one shining example that I 436 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: saw on Twitter among all of the hate that was 437 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 2: put out there, Angel wrote this bad bunny raised seven 438 00:23:15,080 --> 00:23:18,120 Speaker 2: hundred and thirteen million dollars for Puerto Rico with his residency. 439 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 2: What the f does no songs in English have to 440 00:23:21,480 --> 00:23:25,439 Speaker 2: do with it. I'm a conservative New York n y Reacan, 441 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:28,480 Speaker 2: New York Reacan, and I'm okay with it. We had 442 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,120 Speaker 2: to deal with boring ass Tom Petty a few years ago. 443 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 2: You'll be fine. That made me laugh, And I want 444 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: to say, it's not all conservatives, it's not all people 445 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 2: who voted for Trump. It's not all people who call 446 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: themselves Republicans. These are a specific group. But they're loud. Yeah, 447 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 2: they're loud, and it's sad, and it's scary because we 448 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:50,960 Speaker 2: don't know. We talked they and they're the first ones 449 00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 2: to start getting upset at the liberal extremists, stoking the 450 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 2: fans or stoking fanning the flames, stoking the fire potentially 451 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 2: creating violent situations. What is this then? Wouldn't this be 452 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 2: the exact same rhetoric that could potentially incite violence. I mean, 453 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 2: that's just my thing. Let's all hold up mirrors and 454 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:18,400 Speaker 2: let's all acknowledge that it's happening from extremists on both sides. Period. 455 00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 1: So he's a singer. He's a singer, and I want 456 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: to all we have to leave space for people to 457 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: genuine to not like that he's there. I just when 458 00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 1: the answers come and the reasons come is that it's 459 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't want them there, okay, because he's anti Ice, 460 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:37,120 Speaker 1: But I will listen to that. I mean, some people, look, 461 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: I get that. 462 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 2: I get that. 463 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,440 Speaker 1: And where's his statement? He? Uh, where is the statement 464 00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 1: he made that upset everybody about. He was essentially saying 465 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 1: that he he's not touring in the US. He has 466 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: a tour coming up in November. This guy is an 467 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 1: international superstar. He can make a lot of money in 468 00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,840 Speaker 1: the US, and he said he is not going to. 469 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 2: Do it because he said fing Ice could be outside 470 00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: my concerts. That's what he said. I'm not going to 471 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 2: tour in the United States because FI could be. Now 472 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,919 Speaker 2: here's the other thing that we want to get into, 473 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 2: because this is the whole. If it ain't white, it 474 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: ain't right. So there is another tweet on X that 475 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: actually will push us perfect into this next part of 476 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 2: the conversation. So this one came from someone on X 477 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,919 Speaker 2: who wrote fun fact. Maroon five, Adam Levine and the 478 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 2: band headlined the super Bowl Halftime show in twenty nineteen 479 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 2: at the Mercedes Benz Stadium in Atlanta, marking the last 480 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 2: time a predominantly white performer led an NFL super Bowl 481 00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 2: halftime show. They performed with rapper Travis Scott and Big 482 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,480 Speaker 2: Boy as guests, both of whom are black. Since then, 483 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: shows have featured artists Jennifer Lopez and Shakira twenty twenty, 484 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,439 Speaker 2: both Latina, The Weekend twenty twenty one, Black Doctor, Dre 485 00:25:47,600 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 2: Snoop Dogg, Eminem, Mary J. Blige, and Kendrick Lamar twenty 486 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:59,119 Speaker 2: twenty two, all black except Eminem. Rihanna, Oh, Rihanna, Sorry, 487 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,640 Speaker 2: that was my That was so rude. 488 00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 1: I was in the middle of a thought. I have 489 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,680 Speaker 1: to She didn't answer. Sometimes you just send us strike 490 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,000 Speaker 1: to voicemail. You don't know, she answered, and immediately hung 491 00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,160 Speaker 1: up on her. That was. But the point we're still 492 00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 1: here making about what has happened to the Super Bowl 493 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,680 Speaker 1: halftime show since jay Z took over. Yes, finishing that thought, 494 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:26,280 Speaker 1: you go back to the several the previous shows, so 495 00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,679 Speaker 1: the past one, two, three, four, five, six shows that 496 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 1: have been done since jay Z took over producing the 497 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,280 Speaker 1: halftime show twenty twenty, we talked about Shakiri and j Low. 498 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,560 Speaker 1: After that, it was the weekend after that Doctor Dre 499 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: Snoop fifty, Eminem, Mary Jay all on the same show. 500 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: Then after that it was Rihanna that was one of 501 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:47,480 Speaker 1: my favorite half times yehows. Ever, then Usher he is 502 00:26:47,480 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: an absolute amazing hit hit maker. And then Kendrick Lamar 503 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,360 Speaker 1: after the huge year he had with Not Like Us 504 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: and winning all the Grammys. He did it last year. Now, 505 00:26:56,840 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: that was Robes the previous artist under jay Z, Black Latina. 506 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: Throw in Eminem for good. 507 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: Measure, right, he's the He's yes, but this is very. 508 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 1: Much a hip hop a yes, pop Latina. This is 509 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: very specific to music, would you agree? 510 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:14,480 Speaker 2: Of course? 511 00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 1: Yes, So that was since jay Z took over. But 512 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:21,240 Speaker 1: listen to the name now that we're all there. In 513 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 1: the nine ten years before jay Z took over. We 514 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,640 Speaker 1: talked about Maroon five, the Who that was in twenty ten. 515 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I believe the Who. I don't remember. 516 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 2: The Who's an it's an older band, I'm sure it is. 517 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,880 Speaker 2: You know a song, I couldn't name one, but that's 518 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,200 Speaker 2: I bet if I look it up, I could probably 519 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,960 Speaker 2: And if I heard when, I probably know one of 520 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 2: their songs. 521 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 1: Well, I say this, The Who doesn't speak to me. 522 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I've heard of him. I pretty sure they're big and legendary, 523 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: but doesn't speak to me. I ain't mad. Let's move on. 524 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,280 Speaker 1: Is that okay? Is that what's supposed to happen? Roles 525 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,120 Speaker 1: is that I that the music should be made for 526 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: the majority. The music should be there for the majority 527 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:08,120 Speaker 1: of the people who are listening who might be of that? 528 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:09,840 Speaker 1: Of it? 529 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,879 Speaker 2: God, I hope not. That's terrible. That's terrible. That's not 530 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: what artistry is. It's not about just seeing people listening 531 00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: to people watching people who look like you, sound like you, 532 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 2: feel like you, think like you. That is not what 533 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 2: art is about. 534 00:28:23,320 --> 00:28:26,040 Speaker 1: You just describe cable news, right, That's what we do. 535 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,479 Speaker 2: People want their ideology reinforced and validated. But the reality is, 536 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:32,480 Speaker 2: how cool is it that we can all listen to 537 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: people who come from different walks of life, who don't 538 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 2: look like us, who don't sound like us, who inspire 539 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 2: us in ways we couldn't have imagined, who get us 540 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 2: feeling things we didn't even know we had inside us. 541 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 2: I mean that's part of it. So, yes, if you 542 00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: look at before jay Z, it's the who Black Eyed Peas, Madonna, Beyonce, 543 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: Bruno Mars, Katie Perry, Coldplay, Lady Gaga, justin Timberlake and 544 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,440 Speaker 2: then yes, Maroon five. So in that group, what you 545 00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 2: have Beyonce, and I mean Bruno Mars is a mixed back, 546 00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: but he's not black, so it's we went to go 547 00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: into a deep dive into his ethnicity to try. But anyway, anyway, 548 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:09,960 Speaker 2: you've got Beyonce. 549 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:12,600 Speaker 1: Right, So if you look at this group the past 550 00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: ten artists, if you will, I guess before jay Z 551 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: took over all white minus Bruno Mars, Beyonce, and I 552 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 1: guess Black Eyed Peas have several minority artists, black artists 553 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: in there. They're diverse group, even though the lead singer 554 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: is a white lady Madonna was in there. Now is 555 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,920 Speaker 1: that list? I will? I really I asked this sincerely, 556 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 1: does anyone who's complaining about bad Bunny, would they have 557 00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 1: any problem with that list? Oh god, no, you think so. 558 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,160 Speaker 1: I don't Beyonce as well. 559 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 2: I don't think so, just because she is such a 560 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,800 Speaker 2: She is such a like just a juggernaut of a 561 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,720 Speaker 2: star with amazing music. 562 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: But you go from a group it was eighty percent 563 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 1: white in the decade before jay Z took over, and 564 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: it's been one excuse me, niney nine point nine eminem eminema, 565 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:10,320 Speaker 1: but all diverse, all hip hop, all Latina, all black. 566 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: So what I actually do believe? Babe? It should be 567 00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:17,920 Speaker 1: more split, It should be more diverse. It should be 568 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: it should alternate even to see it's. 569 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 2: Probably making up for lost time. 570 00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 1: I to your point. I get that, But isn't this 571 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: what happens robes. Yes, we've worked at a bunch of places, 572 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: and when I had mostly white bosses, it was reflected 573 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: in the people who got promotions, who got on air, 574 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 1: all kinds of this is what happens. Jay Z is 575 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 1: there now. Yes, he is picking folks who are from 576 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:48,520 Speaker 1: his realm, from his world, who are also huge international artists. 577 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 1: These names here are the biggest names you will ever 578 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: hear in music, who are minorities, Yes, the biggest. What's 579 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,480 Speaker 1: the problem with him? Bad bunnies, the baddest dude on 580 00:30:57,520 --> 00:30:58,240 Speaker 1: the planet right now. 581 00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,800 Speaker 2: I have no problem with it, of course, no problem whatsoever. 582 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: And really do people get this upset about a halftime show? 583 00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: Like your option is to not watch the NFL or 584 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: turn it off during the halftime show and make sure 585 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 2: those ratings tank. Fine, there's your power. But I just 586 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,760 Speaker 2: think that the hate and the vitriol and just this 587 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:27,400 Speaker 2: constant just just negative, awful energy. It's not serving anyone, 588 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 2: it's not changing anything, it's not doing anything but bringing 589 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 2: us down, and at worst it could be inciting more violence. 590 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 2: That's the concern. 591 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 1: And this is such an early announcement. We have so 592 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:44,080 Speaker 1: much longer to have this debate. I really really robes. 593 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: We have seen things go sideways. How big is this 594 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 1: going to get? How much is the NFL willing to 595 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: stand by him? How much are they willing to deal 596 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,920 Speaker 1: with whatever he comes. Look, people can plain all day long, 597 00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: you're going to watch the super Bowl. 598 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 2: I can't wait to watch this thing. 599 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,840 Speaker 1: Everybody's gonna watch the super Bowl. Don't act like you're 600 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 1: gonna stop watching the NFL. And they know that. 601 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 2: I just hope that we can all find a space 602 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,520 Speaker 2: where we don't have to agree with people's words or comments, 603 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 2: but we can still appreciate their art, their music. It 604 00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,560 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that we have to hate them, cancel them. 605 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 2: Look and if you don't want to watch, if you 606 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: feel that strongly, we get that. But please, the negativity 607 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,880 Speaker 2: that's being put out there does nothing to help the situation. 608 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 2: It only hurts. It only brings everybody down further. 609 00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,200 Speaker 1: What's the thing you always say, even if you do 610 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: react to this in a certain try this, folks. If 611 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 1: your reaction is outrage, if your action is whatever may be, 612 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: you want to go, try letting your reaction be curiosity. Wait, 613 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: he spinks, he sings only in Spanish, and he's this successful. 614 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: Why don't you ask a question about him? Just be curious. 615 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: Go look him up, go find out about him. Play 616 00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: a song. You might go, oh shit, I love this guy. 617 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:01,400 Speaker 1: It's possible that you always said, who tells? Yes? 618 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,480 Speaker 2: I mean, be curious, Be curious instead of getting angry, 619 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 2: be curious. And I just think that is such a 620 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: that's just it's such a good way to deal with controversy, 621 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 2: to deal and you know, people I get it. If 622 00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 2: you are in law enforcement, love someone in law enforcement, 623 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,520 Speaker 2: I can understand why you would be angry at somebody 624 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 2: who potentially is calling out folks who are doing their 625 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 2: job and trying to protect America and Americans. I get that. 626 00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 2: But just if we can all take a deep breath, 627 00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: if we all can just get curious, and if we 628 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 2: all can just give people space to feel the way 629 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: they feel, we don't have to do we all. Sometimes 630 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 2: we can't help how we feel, but we can help 631 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,959 Speaker 2: how we act. We can help what we put out 632 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 2: in the world. We can help not putting out tweets 633 00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,000 Speaker 2: that are incendiary and and just talk about hateful and 634 00:33:52,040 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: disrespectful and just terrible. 635 00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 1: And we have to say this any and we should 636 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,320 Speaker 1: have said this plenty of times throughout, but I think 637 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 1: we did a couple of We have to have to 638 00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:06,640 Speaker 1: drive to this point home. These ice agents are following orders. 639 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: Of course, they are doing their jobs. They if you 640 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 1: want to direct your disdain towards someone or the job 641 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:20,080 Speaker 1: they're doing, don't do it to these guys. They are 642 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,360 Speaker 1: law enforcement guys with families and good backgrounds and plenty 643 00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,240 Speaker 1: are really really good dudes. And we know this robes. Yes, 644 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,839 Speaker 1: and they are putting in an impossible position right now 645 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: to where they are the only faces kind of the 646 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: targets in a lot of ways. So we have to 647 00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:35,239 Speaker 1: have to say that we understand that people can be 648 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,640 Speaker 1: upset if someone has something negative to say about an 649 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,759 Speaker 1: ICE agent who they are literally taking fire. 650 00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 2: Yes, these days, and in this country, we express that 651 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 2: through who we vote for. We express that at the polls. 652 00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 2: We encourage everyone to yes, get involved, understand and learn 653 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,000 Speaker 2: about what's happening in this country, and then make a 654 00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,160 Speaker 2: choice that you can sit with, that you can live 655 00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,840 Speaker 2: with when you get an opportunity to vote. That is 656 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:02,759 Speaker 2: how we do things in. 657 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,919 Speaker 1: America, and in America which includes Puerto Rico. 658 00:35:07,040 --> 00:35:09,680 Speaker 2: Yes, let's end on that note. And with that, everyone, 659 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 2: thank you for listening to us. I made roboch alongside 660 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:16,520 Speaker 2: DJ Holmes. We appreciate you and we'll talk to you 661 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 2: real soon.