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Speaker 1: Fish Sharp's Unfiltered Episode twenty one. We are here with Ieasacazoo.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Isaac, my co host and good friends.

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Speaker 2: Well, and you're looking forward to this for sure. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: So we have an amazing guest today. We have Alex

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Speaker 1: AGUIREV Lemon City Lime.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: He's been with us at the press box this year.

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Speaker 1: We've gone to know him a lot. Great guy, Alex,

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Speaker 1: what's up?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 4: Happy to have you on. What's up?

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Speaker 5: Guys up? Kevin, Isaac? You know, thanks for having me

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Speaker 5: on the show. Thanks for welcoming me in the press box.

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Speaker 5: I feel like the rookie in the press box my

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Speaker 5: first season covering the team, you know, with credentials and everything,

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Speaker 5: so and I feel I felt very welcome, especially with

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Speaker 5: from the Fist Strikes family. So thank you guys for

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Speaker 5: having me. And I'm happy to be on Man.

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Speaker 1: Excited to have you on Man. Let's get right into it. First,

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Speaker 1: question your thoughts in the Miami Marlins twenty twenty two

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Speaker 1: seasons so far. There's a lot to win packs, so

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Speaker 1: take a time.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, I know there's definitely a lot to unpack

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Speaker 5: with this season. But you know, when I had Isaac

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Speaker 5: on my show, a couple of weeks ago, we talked about, like,

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Speaker 5: you know, it's like, I think twenty thirty games in

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Speaker 5: and then we were kind of predicting of Paclitio doing

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Speaker 5: the next thirty twenty to thirty games, and they're kind of,

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Speaker 5: I think, correct me if I'm wrong, kind of on

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Speaker 5: pace of where they were last year in terms of

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Speaker 5: record wise, maybe a couple of games off here or there,

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Speaker 5: you know, So that's underwhelming in my opinion. If they're

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Speaker 5: on par or on pace of what they were a

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Speaker 5: year ago, especially after the acquisitions. I know, they're not

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Speaker 5: ideal of like the ideal what the fans are, what

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Speaker 5: we wanted or like wanted to see in terms of

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Speaker 5: improvement from the team, But that's that's they're not like,

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Speaker 5: that's not good. That's not good. They're on pace from

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Speaker 5: what they were last year. But yeah, I just feel like,

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Speaker 5: you know, if I'm going to grate it, I'll just

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Speaker 5: probably give it like a like a se Honestly, this

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Speaker 5: has generous of my geners in my opinion, because from

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Speaker 5: comparing it to where they were last season, it's underwhelming.

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Speaker 5: So that's probably the main word I would use to

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Speaker 5: describe the Marlin season. Up to this point underwhelming.

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Speaker 2: Ah man, this stinks.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And unfortunately twenty two go off what you said

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Speaker 3: this sixty one games in twenty twenty one, the Marlins

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Speaker 3: were twenty six and thirty five, nine games under five hundred,

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Speaker 3: and they go into tomorrow six game number sixty two,

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Speaker 3: twenty eight and thirty three. So just really a four

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Speaker 3: game improvement on last year. And I think you said

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Speaker 3: the word perfectly. It's underwhelming for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, that's exactly what I wanted to tell you

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Speaker 1: that this team from last season was was not the best.

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Speaker 1: They were pretty much out of that at that point.

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Speaker 1: I think they already played that four game set against

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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh where you pretty much would say season's over. But yeah,

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Speaker 1: before we move on to that next question, Oh, it

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Speaker 1: was right after Yeah, all right, So before we move on,

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Speaker 1: wanted to mention Alex's podcast, which is first pitch three

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Speaker 1: or five.

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Speaker 4: You could take a listen to that.

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Speaker 1: It's not his socials and you could just search it

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Speaker 1: out on Apple podcasts. So the next thing I wanted

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Speaker 1: to talk about was actually the pitching rotation itself. Trevor Rodgers, Man,

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Speaker 1: it's just been a bad season. I think he's had

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Speaker 1: a five to eighty seven Era walked a career high

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Speaker 1: six guys. In his last started against Philly, he had

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Speaker 1: a four to zero lead entering pretty much right off

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Speaker 2: He blew the four zero lead.

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Speaker 1: I'll go to Isaac here just to your thought on

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Speaker 1: Trevor's seasons as a whole so far, it's just been

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Speaker 1: very inconsistent, a guy who just can't make adjustments. It

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Speaker 1: seems like it can't have the consistent back to back

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Speaker 1: good starts, which is I think what we're noticing a lot.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the story you're talking about in Philly, Marlins had

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Speaker 3: one where you can think, okay, maybe the bullpen would be,

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Speaker 3: you know, giving a little bit of a break. You

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Speaker 3: the season in Trevor Rodgers, and he was just you know,

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Speaker 3: it was the worst I've seen him, and it really

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Speaker 3: wasn't It seems that he really does struggle against Philadelphia.

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Speaker 3: I mentioned that on the Twitter spaces post game. That

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Speaker 3: He couldn't find the strike zone, and this year just

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Speaker 3: seems like the ball's not coming out of his hand

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Speaker 3: first half. You would say it's a you know, like

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Speaker 2: It's just the.

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Speaker 3: something something you gotta be worried about. We spoke about

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Speaker 3: this in the group chat. I don't think it's time

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Speaker 3: you gotta you gotta think of something because he's performing

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Speaker 3: worse than Eliezer almost and that's tough to say.

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Speaker 5: And a hi fly by a deep flat field. This

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Speaker 5: game is tied a three run bun for rees Hoskins.

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Speaker 4: You know, it's not even that now.

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Speaker 1: You can't even send him down if you really wanted

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Speaker 1: to because of all these injuries, which we'll get into later.

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Speaker 1: But Alex, I mean, what are your thoughts on Trevor

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Speaker 5: My thoughts on Trevor. You know, I expected have his

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Speaker 5: obstacles to overcome, as any young picture would, especially him.

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Speaker 5: He's not a complete product yet, it's obviously, but he

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Speaker 5: had like you would expect some improvement or or you know,

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Speaker 5: some waves or some flashes of it. His previous start

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Speaker 5: it's a different team and you know you're at home,

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Speaker 5: Trevor Rodgers, I just feel like his control has been

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Speaker 5: the biggest issue. In my opinion is he's just been

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Speaker 5: But he's showing signs of maybe early signs of Adam Connley,

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Speaker 5: has shown way more flashes of talent like under his

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Speaker 5: hasn't found the control. The velocity is is there. It's

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Speaker 5: mid nineties is not too bad either. But for me,

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Speaker 5: I just think the control, if you gotta lock that

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Speaker 5: I think everything will start falling into place. But I

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Speaker 2: See, right, and you mentioned him Adam Conley.

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Speaker 3: It's funny, I think is last season the one thing

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Speaker 3: might have to consider before they even try maybe sending

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Speaker 3: because you know, last season he rarely went over one

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Speaker 3: it is tough to just you know, sort of throw

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Speaker 3: an area for concern, and that was last year and

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Speaker 5: Maybe another thing I wanted, like, sorry, Kevin, when you

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Speaker 5: tell me to piggyback on Isaac. Kind of like a

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Speaker 5: hypothetical Marlins's situation with Trevor is that, you know, a

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Speaker 5: transition into the bullpen maybe could be useful for him

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Speaker 5: to maybe sort things out for himself. But also I'm

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Speaker 5: but now I've used Trevor out of the bullpen. You

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Speaker 5: who knows, you know, he's still finding his groove as

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Speaker 1: There was a recent report that came out today Thursday,

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Speaker 1: and we'll get into this one quickly because we don't

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Speaker 1: Eli was mentioning the person that showed I, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if he has to tweet up, but Ramon Loreano possibly

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Speaker 1: Loreano trade. End there's a lot of ways where we

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Speaker 1: could go with this, and I'll start with Alex. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what would Ramone Loriano bring to the Miami Martins And

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Speaker 5: Well, I feel, you know right off the bad Ramone

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Speaker 5: for the Miami Marlins. And the perfect example is what

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Speaker 5: not a perfect example, but just something that's kind of

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Speaker 5: the series finale. It was just more like, uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: learning and another player finding his groove at a new

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Speaker 5: feel like Ramon's can it will be a huge lift

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Speaker 5: just like give it like an their lefty bat in

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Speaker 5: the last couple of years as well. And then another

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Speaker 5: spark plug in the clubhouse and the and you know,

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Speaker 5: I've seen clips in him of this past couple of

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Speaker 5: the dugout. Now, can that be a good or bad thing?

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Speaker 5: We'll see, But I'm sure you know, he'll keep things

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Speaker 5: more on a calm side of things when he when

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Speaker 5: I feel like his energy is just a positive for

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and just you know the only reason we're having

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Speaker 2: Relevant in the end a wildcard.

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Speaker 4: This season all but over?

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Speaker 3: And if it is, where does Miami go from here?

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Speaker 1: one hundred wins. I think it was like one oh

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Speaker 1: five or something like that in twenty nineteen. So yeah,

433
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Speaker 1: you're completely right, but not only that, you have to

434
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Speaker 1: fire don Maddingly. I mean, if you get to that point,

435
00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,879
Speaker 1: you have to fire Donnie They I know people are

436
00:19:13,880 --> 00:19:16,000
Speaker 1: wanting gone already, but he's not going anywhere.

437
00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:17,400
Speaker 4: He's gonna say, you know, as.

438
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Speaker 1: Long as this team is in it. I guess you

439
00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,400
Speaker 1: could say in it with quotation marks, because they're technically

440
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Speaker 1: in it at the moment. They're just by games out

441
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Speaker 1: of him, and they're having a better season than twenty

442
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Speaker 1: twenty one. Technically, you he's gonna stay. I mean, the

443
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Speaker 1: worst case scenario is he's gone for in the All

444
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Speaker 1: Star break.

445
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Speaker 4: And you got a neat manager there.

446
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Speaker 1: But maybe you know, Kim hasn't done the best job

447
00:19:37,680 --> 00:19:39,639
Speaker 1: either when you look at it, just some things that

448
00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,440
Speaker 1: haven't been working. She hasn't been able to hit on talent.

449
00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:44,560
Speaker 1: You know, Avid Garcia, one good season and you're paying

450
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Speaker 1: him for past production at the moment, for that one

451
00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:48,760
Speaker 1: season is what you're paying In Miggy Road, that extension

452
00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,760
Speaker 1: doesn't look too hot right now. Isaaca's mentioned BLI you

453
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Speaker 1: mentioned about the start that extension isn't looking too good

454
00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,600
Speaker 1: right now, and so Layer is getting it going so

455
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Speaker 1: that one looks a little bit better.

456
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Speaker 4: But yeah, I know that you're gonna.

457
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Speaker 1: Have to make some moves at the front office as well.

458
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Speaker 1: I don't know what they'll do with Gary denbo because

459
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Speaker 1: I know that's another one. But you can't miss on prospects.

460
00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:09,160
Speaker 1: Miami's missed on too many. That whole Lewis Princeton trade

461
00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,760
Speaker 1: completely missed out on it. The John Carlos stand trade

462
00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,240
Speaker 1: is looking horrid right now because Hory Hay Guzman is

463
00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:16,440
Speaker 1: no longer in your organization. And Jose Devers just got

464
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Speaker 1: injured the other yesterday, some lower injuries. So we'll see

465
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Speaker 1: what happens. But hopefully Miamis is in it. I'm one

466
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Speaker 1: of the optimists that want to stay in it. But

467
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Speaker 1: this New York series is very telling. So let's move

468
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Speaker 1: on back to the major league team itself. This season

469
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Speaker 1: with the injuries, there was a lot of injuries that

470
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Speaker 1: went down. We'll probably talk We've already talked about them

471
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Speaker 1: on Fishtripe's side, but again taking a little bit deeper

472
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Speaker 1: of a dive here, Cole Solstro on the fifteen di

473
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Speaker 1: il Eddie co Cabert on the fifteen day IL lose

474
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Speaker 1: Zardo transferred to the sixty day IL Anderson Wendell's still out.

475
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Speaker 4: Who comes up?

476
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Speaker 1: You know what type of roster moves you make, because

477
00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,520
Speaker 1: on the road trip it's a little bit difficult to

478
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Speaker 1: make these moves. You're pretty much going to rely off

479
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Speaker 1: your taxi squad on what you have there, which at

480
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Speaker 1: the moment, I know Jimmy Jimmy Yaco Bonus was on

481
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Speaker 1: its VELAs was on there.

482
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Speaker 4: Uh Gerar was on there.

483
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Speaker 1: He was sent back to Triple A. So we'll start

484
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Speaker 1: with Isaac here. What would you do with all this

485
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Speaker 1: roster management as you mentioned, I think Brian Holing is

486
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Speaker 1: who you mentioned that to start to come up and

487
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Speaker 1: start because I don't expect Dan Castando to have another

488
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Speaker 1: Senate six and a half ening shutout start on back

489
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Speaker 1: to back days, which would be very surprising.

490
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, like you said, since they're on the road,

491
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Speaker 3: the willions depends on that taxi.

492
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Speaker 2: Squad, and it's just really peculiar to me.

493
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Speaker 3: The reasoning I would love to ask you know what

494
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Speaker 3: the reasoning was for having those specific guys like Zabala

495
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Speaker 3: and Louisavila's junior, you know, and especially having someone like

496
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Speaker 3: Gerrar who he gets at bats every single day. So

497
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Speaker 3: to have an offensive player, you know, it's okay if

498
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Speaker 3: you have, you know, a bench bat guy on the

499
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Speaker 3: Taxis club. But I have one of your top prospects

500
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Speaker 3: on the Taxi squad and he sat there in Philly

501
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Speaker 3: for three days. You know, he's facing no, no pitching,

502
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Speaker 3: So two days, two days and not the best you know,

503
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Speaker 3: form of you know, handling your top prospects in my opinion.

504
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Speaker 3: But while they're in New York, they're gonna have to

505
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Speaker 3: depend on the guys like you know, like Lewis He

506
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Speaker 3: and Jimmy aka Bonus, and hope that they can you know,

507
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Speaker 3: hold their own hope, pray, hope and pray for a

508
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 3: split in New York. And when they come home, I

509
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Speaker 3: think you're gonna see a lot of roster moves. I

510
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Speaker 3: think you're gonna see maybe one of those double A

511
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Speaker 3: bullpen pieces come up because they need it.

512
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Speaker 2: The rotation needs help and the.

513
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Speaker 3: Bullpen needs help drastically, So they have a lot of

514
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Speaker 3: work to do once they come back to Miami.

515
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and looking at that, you know, you mentioned the

516
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Speaker 1: double A guys. You have Colden Hawk down there, yeah,

517
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Speaker 1: free and Josh Simpson and.

518
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Speaker 4: Then we go to Triple A. There's some other guys.

519
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Speaker 1: But Alex, I mean, what would you do in this

520
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Speaker 1: case with the roster management? You know, you have the

521
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Speaker 1: roster here in front of you. That pitching rotation doesn't

522
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Speaker 1: look too strong right now. It doesn't look like the

523
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Speaker 1: one we're thinking we would have throughout the whole season,

524
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Speaker 1: especially with now the interests of Lozzardo Eddie Canbera now

525
00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,640
Speaker 1: going down after a very strong start to the twenty

526
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Speaker 1: twenty two season.

527
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Speaker 2: But well, what.

528
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Speaker 1: Type of roster management would you make here when you

529
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Speaker 1: come back to Miami specifically?

530
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Speaker 5: You know, it's funny how like less than half a season,

531
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Speaker 5: how a narrative of a team can change, you know,

532
00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 5: going to the season, and you know last season as well,

533
00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 5: the strength of this team was pitching. And you know

534
00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 5: how the abundance of pitching this team has and thank

535
00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,960
Speaker 5: god that you know, they're still able to kind of

536
00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:11,680
Speaker 5: fill in the gaps, if you will, because with the

537
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 5: amount of depth that they have, but that depth is

538
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 5: running out, it's running out, little by little by little.

539
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Speaker 5: And for me, just just to answer your question, for me,

540
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Speaker 5: I will just continue writing out with Castano and Garrett.

541
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Speaker 5: You know, I wouldn't want to keep continue dipping into

542
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Speaker 5: the minor league system just to filling gaps, like like

543
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 5: at some point or another, you're gonna have to see

544
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 5: at a big for a big sample size or a

545
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:40,400
Speaker 5: bigger portion, You're gonna have to see Castano and Garrett

546
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Speaker 5: and all these other and other and players and all

547
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Speaker 5: these other players you know, performing not in a couple

548
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,639
Speaker 5: of starts here and there, but so showcase what they

549
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,000
Speaker 5: can provide just to get a clear cut answer of

550
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Speaker 5: who they really are. So dipping into the minor league

551
00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,560
Speaker 5: system consists continually. I don't think it's the right answer,

552
00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:03,040
Speaker 5: but maybe for the bullpen, definitely it was one. If

553
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Speaker 5: I have to pick one area between the starting rotation

554
00:24:05,359 --> 00:24:07,640
Speaker 5: and the bullpen in terms and tapping into the minor

555
00:24:07,680 --> 00:24:09,680
Speaker 5: league system, it will be for the bullpen right now

556
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:11,639
Speaker 5: because I feel like looking at them, you know, the

557
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 5: starting rotation with Sandy Trevor Costano, we still, uh, you

558
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 5: know Pablo's situation. We don't. Is he gonna come back

559
00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:21,920
Speaker 5: for his next starter that's gonna be pushed back again.

560
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Speaker 3: That's wait to say he didn't Donnie didn't rule out

561
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Speaker 3: the fact that he could pitch tomorrow in New York

562
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Speaker 3: or you know, this weekend in New York. But I

563
00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 3: would be sort of surprising pitches tomorrow. But I think

564
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Speaker 3: that's that's where they, you know, tentatively have lined up

565
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:36,959
Speaker 3: Mescus scenario. I would say it would be Sunday, just

566
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Speaker 3: to let him wait it out a little bit.

567
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Speaker 4: You'll you'll get going.

568
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: But so rotations on this rotation is kind of like

569
00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,639
Speaker 5: on band aids. But it's not on in like code

570
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:47,920
Speaker 5: red mode. You understand, you you get what I mean.

571
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,320
Speaker 5: It's not like the panic mode hasn't been hit yet

572
00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 5: in my opinion, for the starting rotation. But it's on

573
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Speaker 5: like it's it's on its last legs. It's on it.

574
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Speaker 5: It's on its standards.

575
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
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Speaker 5: Yeah. And but at the end of the day, we

577
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: have to see what these other like these pictures Garrett

578
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 5: and Castano provide, because it's not gonna do them any good,

579
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Speaker 5: just like every year, you know, come up for two

580
00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 5: or three starts and be sent back down and then

581
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 5: the so on and so forth. They drafted them, they

582
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Speaker 5: traded for them for a reason. Let's see what they

583
00:25:17,720 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 5: have and I'm not gonna say, oh, they're gonna be

584
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 5: great and it's gonna you know, propel their season. You know,

585
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,439
Speaker 5: problem will chance, probably not, but we will get an

586
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,760
Speaker 5: answer to see what type of pictures they actually are

587
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,040
Speaker 5: at this level and it and that's the route that

588
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,280
Speaker 5: this team is gonna take in terms of development and

589
00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 5: seeing what the younger guys have to offer and seeing

590
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Speaker 5: what the prospects down low have to offer. Then I'm

591
00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 5: okay with because because at least they haven't a clear

592
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:44,880
Speaker 5: cut direction of what they plan to do. Okay, we're

593
00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 5: gonna rebuild, We're gonna see what our minor league system

594
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 5: has to offer, and then we'll continue in the off season.

595
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 5: But in terms of the short term resolution, just bolster

596
00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 5: that bullpen with with some with somebody called by calling

597
00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,679
Speaker 5: somebody up. But right now the rotation is what you

598
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 5: see is what you get. It's but he is plain

599
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 5: and simple. You know that that depth has run out.

600
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and Braxing Gartt has actually been pretty good.

601
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Speaker 1: I mean, besides that one rough upstart right at the

602
00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:13,320
Speaker 1: end of the seat, right at the end of it,

603
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,960
Speaker 1: that's starting in San Francisco, one pitch, one grand slam.

604
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: That's no I'm talking about the San Francisco start. Besides

605
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,800
Speaker 1: that he goes okay. In Houston he was lights out.

606
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: There's there's just no other way to say it. But

607
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Speaker 1: let's move on to the usual minor league report we

608
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Speaker 1: usually do here, starting from low A going up low

609
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Speaker 1: A thirty one and twenty six over five hundred. Colo

610
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: Watson just can't get it going for some reason. Two

611
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: three four to seventy three, three ninety one six sixty

612
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Speaker 1: four seven home or thirty one. RBI's Isaac, just what's

613
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Speaker 1: the issue with Colo Watson here? We haven't seen too

614
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Speaker 1: much because there's not much video when it comes to Jupiter,

615
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,840
Speaker 1: but you know we could see the stats are obviously

616
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Speaker 1: dipping and he's not really getting a going.

617
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Speaker 3: Yeah, he got off to a torrid start in his

618
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Speaker 3: career last season. You know, in the FCL he hit

619
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Speaker 3: I think anopias of over eleven hundred. He wasn't striking

620
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000
Speaker 3: on an insane amount. He's striking out, but you know

621
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Speaker 3: not to you know not, it wasn't alarming. This season,

622
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 3: he got off to just as good as a start video

623
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Speaker 3: game numbers, and then it went downhill quick. I think

624
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 3: hit a WRC plus of maybe like in between ten

625
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: and twenty it was horrific.

626
00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 2: And in two.

627
00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:20,159
Speaker 3: Hundred and actually on one hundred and ninety two at bats,

628
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: he struck out eighty five times and that's just not sustainable.

629
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Speaker 3: And he's doing that at a ball, you know, it's

630
00:27:25,680 --> 00:27:27,880
Speaker 3: no longer rookie ball at table. He is a very

631
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 3: young guy. He's a high school draft pick. But you know,

632
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:31,960
Speaker 3: you'd hope that he would at least, you know, just

633
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 3: hold his own at least with it with a swing

634
00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 3: and miss. But he's not really walking his nine walks

635
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,320
Speaker 3: versus those eighty five strikeouts. He's hitting for a little

636
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:42,920
Speaker 3: bit of poweries, but it's really unfortunately, it's really underwhelming

637
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:45,399
Speaker 3: for him so far from Miami's sixteenth overall pick in

638
00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,400
Speaker 3: the twenty twenty one draft for a really consensus top

639
00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 3: five talent.

640
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,400
Speaker 2: He was, he was supposed to go the top five

641
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:50,680
Speaker 2: in the.

642
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: Draft and he just hasn't gotten to going unfortunately.

643
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex, I don't know if you have anything to

644
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:56,200
Speaker 4: add on him.

645
00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 5: I mean, the strikeout is the most glaring aspect of

646
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 5: of his game or his Approachryne now on the offensive

647
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 5: side of things, something he can clean up on, like

648
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 5: like Isaac said, he's a very very young prospect, so

649
00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 5: very raw, you know. So I'm you know, like, you know,

650
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 5: it's not too concerning of what because there's still I think,

651
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 5: plenty of times to clean that up. But it's but

652
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 5: it kind of goes back to what I was saying

653
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 5: a little bit earlier of let's not front office, let's

654
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,520
Speaker 5: not keep striking out on these picks or over when

655
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,960
Speaker 5: we trade for prospects. I know, it's so hard to gauge.

656
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 5: It's so hard to tell because of the process that

657
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:35,359
Speaker 5: these players go through from when they're traded for when

658
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 5: they're drafted, so they make their debut, they can it

659
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,440
Speaker 5: can go south, or it can get even better. You know,

660
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 5: It's just so hard to tell sometimes. But it just

661
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 5: seems like something's got to change, like culture change, a

662
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 5: regiment change. I don't know the clear, clear cut answer,

663
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 5: but it's just I don't want to see this trend.

664
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:57,680
Speaker 5: I don't want to see this well. I don't want

665
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 5: to see Watson go down the path of a Monte Harrison,

666
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 5: Lewis Brinson, you know, Magne Sierra, Like just they're on paper,

667
00:29:05,320 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 5: like they look like athletes, they look like studs. But

668
00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 5: when when the lights are finally on and when it's

669
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 5: time to play, it just doesn't come together. So but

670
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:15,800
Speaker 5: it's so, it's so way down the line. I feel

671
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:17,160
Speaker 5: like he has a lot of room to grow and

672
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 5: polished up his game.

673
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: The guy's only yeah, just because of how good Miami

674
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 3: has been at developing pitching, they cannot develop any hitters.

675
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 3: You would think of the guys that were youngish, you know,

676
00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 3: Jazz and Hasis two that have really flourished a little

677
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 3: bit of the major leagues, more so Jazz. They were

678
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 3: all developed by other teams and they were traded for

679
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:37,800
Speaker 3: later in their minor league careers. So you really can't

680
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 3: give it that Marlin's any credit for that. There really

681
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 3: are no you know, homegrown guys.

682
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 2: At the moment that this regime has developed.

683
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 3: You know, their first you know, their first draft was

684
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 3: filled with Connor Scott's and Will Banfield's and Tristan Pompeii's and.

685
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:52,680
Speaker 2: None of those he has gone now too.

686
00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 3: Right, And you know the second draft, it was Blaedet,

687
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 3: it was Meisner. They haven't come to fruition either. They

688
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 3: have not homegrown a single one of their guys. Nick

689
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 3: Floortes is the best example. Of someone that really been

690
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 3: drafted in twenty eighteen and has come through and as

691
00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 3: you know, performer, I'll be it in a very small

692
00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: sample size. But if i'm unless I'm missing somebody. He's

693
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,840
Speaker 3: the one guy who they've developed, they've chosen, developed and

694
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 3: succeeded in the major leagues, no one else. So it's

695
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: a I think if this season goes south, they really

696
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 3: get to look in their development department, hitting development department,

697
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 3: look at Gary Devil and see if they can improve

698
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 3: because it's really been it's been hord on paper. Like

699
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: you said, Alex Connor Scott, great hitter. They could have

700
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 3: gone someone better, but I want to go there. But

701
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,480
Speaker 3: day you know, I think he won the Crazy Award

702
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 3: and he led the SEC and home runs. All these guys,

703
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 3: these great picks, and they're just not developing at the

704
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 3: rate that they would hope.

705
00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll get into some of those guys now. But

706
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: one of them who has been just on fire, Ian

707
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: Lewis also in that low way team in Jupiter three

708
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: or five batting average three eight for twenty nine seven

709
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 1: to seventy six, two homers, four RBIs this guy's lighting

710
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: it up. I mean, Alex, what are your thoughts on

711
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Ian Lewis. I think he was one of the draft.

712
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: He was an international signing.

713
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,120
Speaker 2: It from correct, I think it was.

714
00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 5: An international signing. I mean, it's it's great, It's it's

715
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,280
Speaker 5: just I feel like we've been we've been hearing like

716
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 5: for like the players that is like mentioned, you know, Bledet,

717
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 5: you know, like players that are a little bit older

718
00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 5: now in their minor league careers. But we were hearing

719
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,719
Speaker 5: news like that as well, players like that killing it

720
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 5: and doing amazing you know at low A or at

721
00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 5: high and like just like, you know, okay, that's great,

722
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,800
Speaker 5: but then when you get to double A. Double a's

723
00:31:27,800 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 5: the most competitive part or I guess competitive level of

724
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,800
Speaker 5: the minor league system. Let's see if they can make

725
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: that jump, you know, let's see that, you know, when

726
00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 5: they get there. Like just I just hate putting expectations

727
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 5: and prospects in baseball because one year to the next

728
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 5: everything can go south. Look at Tyler Kolek. I know

729
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:47,920
Speaker 5: it's a bit of a blast of a name, but

730
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 5: like everyone was so high on him and he was

731
00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 5: lighting it up, and then you know, injuries kind of

732
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 5: derailed things and whatnot, and then control issues and then

733
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 5: that's it, you know. So it's just I hate expectations

734
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,719
Speaker 5: on young prospects, but it's good to have a position

735
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:04,200
Speaker 5: player to look forward to in the future because we

736
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 5: were all, you know, it's just all this pitching, pitching, pitching,

737
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 5: but you got to balance it out. And so you

738
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 5: can make those comparisons to the Cubs and the Astros

739
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:14,719
Speaker 5: because they were able to find a balance and then

740
00:32:14,760 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 5: sprinkle in like their veterans like Michael Brantley, Evan Gaddis

741
00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 5: at the time. You know, like it's just like like

742
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 5: like they were able to find the right formula that

743
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 5: the Marlins haven't been able to find in terms of drafting, developing,

744
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 5: and then signing free agents. You know, it's just putting

745
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 5: it all together hasn't worked yet for them.

746
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,680
Speaker 1: And I think the thing with drafting is they're making

747
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: good picks because on paper, these guys look like great options.

748
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,760
Speaker 1: It's when they go into the system they can't get

749
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: developed at all. Hitting I mean j J. But the

750
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: day's hitting bombs. Yeah, that's nice, but his batting averages

751
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: through it's on the floor. At the moment Connor Scott

752
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: immediately leaves to Marlins, I think the guy's hitting two

753
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:51,000
Speaker 1: ninety something in double A or low way wherever he

754
00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: is at the moment, he's playing well. I mean that's

755
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: that's the thing. It's it's been hitting development because pitching

756
00:32:56,200 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: like at Uri Perez, this guy's dominating. Yeah, he never

757
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: know if he makes his debut sooner rather than later.

758
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: As I think I just predicted on one of our

759
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: episodes here. So the last I want to mention is

760
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,840
Speaker 1: someone who I think we're pretty high on here, Jose Salas.

761
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:12,080
Speaker 1: He's actually gotten a going a little bit two fifty eight,

762
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: batting average, three forty four OBP three seventy six, slugging

763
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: seven twenty one ops two home or seventeen RBIs Isaac.

764
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Salas is getting it going. He's got to

765
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: go in. To be honest with you, what are your

766
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: thoughts on him so far? Just you're looking at the

767
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 1: week the two week report.

768
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:28,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, to me, it would have just been

769
00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: more vision.

770
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 3: Just go through the whole infield A S one, you know,

771
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 3: khalil Ian Lewis, Jose Salas, Joe Mack Salas one of

772
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 3: my favorite of you know, of the whole infield.

773
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,560
Speaker 2: He's I think he's gonna be a third basement.

774
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 3: When it's all said and done, he didn't get off

775
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 3: to that you know, tough, tough start, but he's gonna

776
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 3: go and like you said, and he's gonna be a

777
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: good ballplayer. I think he's gonna be fine. He's a

778
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:50,000
Speaker 3: very very young. Think, if I'm not mistaken, I believe

779
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 3: he's younger than Khalil Watson.

780
00:33:53,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 2: But yeah, I think he's gonna be fine.

781
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 5: I mean, like really quick.

782
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,880
Speaker 3: The only other guy almost identical edge he is two

783
00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 3: days younger, then ten days young there, he's ten days

784
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 3: younger than Kilo Watson. So yeah, he you know, international

785
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 3: from Venezuela. I'm very much looking for to his development

786
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:10,879
Speaker 3: as well.

787
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the last guy I think we can mention

788
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: is Jean Mack. He's been injured, so we're not gonna

789
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: go two into him, but you know what he has

790
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 1: shown so far and like four played appearance is a

791
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,440
Speaker 1: three OA batting average four thirty eight OB six fifteen

792
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:26,360
Speaker 1: slug one point zero five three ops, one homer two urbis.

793
00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:27,479
Speaker 2: So we'll leave it at.

794
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: That and then higher that this is a very interesting

795
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: level because this seemed just got off to a horrible start.

796
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 1: So Enamo Martinez, we can get into Dax Fulton, Cody

797
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: Morre said Tanner Allen, We'll just get into those guys

798
00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: very quickly. But I guess the one name that has

799
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: really gone into like been out there is Namo Marinez.

800
00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 1: I think it's how you mentioned it. Two ninety two

801
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 1: batting average three, twenty seven OBP seven eighty seven ops

802
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: seven home or twenty three RBIs what can we really

803
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: expect out of this guy? I know if we would

804
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 1: add Alex, he would tell us a lot more Alex

805
00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: Carver fish on the farm. But Alexa Guire, I mean

806
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: this probably sticked all of a sudden, just popping out.

807
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: I mean he when we were talking about Carver, he

808
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 1: was telling this top thirty five, top forty guy. But

809
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know if you have anything on

810
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 1: this guy, I.

811
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 5: Mean Alex Carver. And when it comes to like, you know,

812
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,000
Speaker 5: his like his dedication and his knowledge of what the

813
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:18,359
Speaker 5: Marlins minor league system is superb. So I'll back up

814
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: anything that he says. But in terms of just just

815
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: building is you know, creating that depth, you know, in

816
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: terms that in the min league system, and it's it's

817
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 5: it's a positive sign to see and you know, I'm

818
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 5: approving whatever. I don't have much to say about about

819
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 5: that player in particular, but yeah, I Carver has my

820
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 5: has my support for sure. You know I gelt like,

821
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,439
Speaker 5: you know, like when it comes to finding out what's

822
00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 5: going on in the minor league system for the Mons,

823
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:43,840
Speaker 5: he is the man period.

824
00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:47,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll definitely come back to this guy, probably in

825
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: two weeks once we find out more. But the blast

826
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: I want to mention this system is Tanner Allen and

827
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: low Way and Hi, I'm sorry hitting two twenty two

828
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: to sixty eight, three sixty five. Just what's happened to

829
00:35:58,120 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: this guy all of a sudden. He was one of

830
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:02,080
Speaker 1: the best guys that team and just taking a huge

831
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 1: dip Isaac if you want to get into him a

832
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:03,839
Speaker 1: little bit.

833
00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 2: Yeah, we spoke about it.

834
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 1: There's a report Larry Larson fully expect Marinas to be

835
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: cracking Marlint Prost. Yeah, the guy's just been killing it.

836
00:36:13,719 --> 00:36:14,320
Speaker 4: It's crazy.

837
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,480
Speaker 1: He played first and third and pretty much that hole

838
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: in field. So yeah, let's get it quickly into Tanner

839
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: Allen here and just to move on then to one

840
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: of the most fun parts of the minor league system

841
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:23,880
Speaker 1: in double it.

842
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, just one of the better college bats out of

843
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 3: that twenty twenty one draft class.

844
00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, just has.

845
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 3: Been able to impact the ball. We spoke about it

846
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 3: before we started recording this pod with Eli. Just tough

847
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 3: to see. You know, I've heard raving reviews about him

848
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 3: from you know, former teammates of mine and former opposite

849
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: like opposing players of mine, and he just hasn't gotten

850
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: it going. He just doesn't seem to be impacting the ball.

851
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,040
Speaker 3: We were talking about his you know, lack of size

852
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 3: a little bit. He's five to eleven, one to ninety,

853
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 3: say's about as talle as I am, with a little

854
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 3: bit more muscle. So you know, I was a little

855
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 3: surprised to see to see him struggle the way he

856
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 3: is that pretty low level of the miners, considering he's

857
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 3: a he's a college guy.

858
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

859
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: In the final and then let's move onto one of

860
00:37:06,719 --> 00:37:10,239
Speaker 1: the more fun parts. The first place Pensacola Blue Wall,

861
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,320
Speaker 1: who is the double A team and maybe the hottest

862
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,439
Speaker 1: hitter in the whole minor league system for the Minor Marks,

863
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: maybe in Oli Bait and all of minor league baseball.

864
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,879
Speaker 1: Troy Johnston. The guy's just hitting like crazy. Hit Ah,

865
00:37:20,360 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: he had a walk off just last night again recording

866
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: this Thursday, three seventeen. Batting average three eighty OBP eight

867
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 1: seventy five ops, seven homers, thirty six RBIs Alexa gire Man.

868
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 1: This guy, you know, twenty six years old. He'll be

869
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 1: getting his promotion a triple A very very soon, just

870
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,279
Speaker 1: the way he's been smashing double A pitching, which we

871
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,640
Speaker 1: could all agree is probably the hardest level to play

872
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:43,759
Speaker 1: in any minor league system.

873
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 5: Now, you know, he's been lighting lighting up, like just

874
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 5: in terms of like the minor league new news, he's

875
00:37:51,080 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 5: been lighting up for the Marlins. And and we go

876
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 5: back to a left handed hitter you know, in any

877
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 5: plays for his base corner alculus box as well. So

878
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 5: he provides, you know, a little bit of you like

879
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 5: you can play multiple positions. But he's what you want

880
00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 5: to see as someone that's improving step by step along

881
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 5: the way and and and showing you know, growth at

882
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,800
Speaker 5: each level and that and that's not being stagnant at

883
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 5: one certain level, and that's and just being stuck. So

884
00:38:19,000 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 5: I'm so I'm on the train. I'm on the Troy,

885
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 5: Troy train. I want I'm all aboard that because that

886
00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 5: he can definitely, you know, in the near future be

887
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,800
Speaker 5: what the Marlins have been lacking, especially in the lineup

888
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 5: as a certain at a certain point, this team needs

889
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 5: to stop filling the gaps with like with veterans, and

890
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 5: you know, started giving these young guys a chance because

891
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 5: we to be honest with you, I did not expect

892
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:48,840
Speaker 5: Hey sus Aguilar to be to be on this on

893
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 5: the team for this for this long of a time.

894
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,800
Speaker 5: I thought he was more of a stop gap player,

895
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 5: you know, because that we had Das in the you know,

896
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,000
Speaker 5: in this system, and you know, and now at least

897
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,920
Speaker 5: we have for the Marlins have Troy, and they're and

898
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,160
Speaker 5: you know, to look forward to to you know, maybe

899
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 5: man the man first base in the near future, so

900
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 5: you know, he provides options and the mon zone I

901
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,200
Speaker 5: guess have you know other than Dias and maybe Bludet,

902
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 5: I don't know, like that power bat, but also they

903
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: can hit for average because Conine, I think I was

904
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 5: something I'll think of Conine as well. He's a power guy,

905
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 5: but he strikes out a lot, you know, you know,

906
00:39:23,160 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 5: like he doesn't really do like you knows, a power guy,

907
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 5: typical pro tepical power guy. So no, I'm I'm all

908
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 5: bored of Troy Johnson and his production is recent production.

909
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 5: I feel like, you know, he's gonna get his call soon.

910
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:40,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely, and especially he's twenty six years old, so

911
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,360
Speaker 1: he's gonna wat He's gonna have to move up the

912
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:45,200
Speaker 1: minor league system a little bit quicker than usual because

913
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,560
Speaker 1: the twenty six year old in Double A is you

914
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: don't really see that too often. But there's only one

915
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: more in that system with at twenty six years old,

916
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: and that's Colton Hawk, which we mentioned Isaac. I mean

917
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: Uri Perez. Wow, this guy. I just had Urie David

918
00:39:59,800 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 1: yet last night. I don't know exactly how he did,

919
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,720
Speaker 1: but I'm pretty sure he dominated because they won that game.

920
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: And just your thoughts on Yaris so far?

921
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: How soon can we see this guy wearing the Miami

922
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,880
Speaker 1: Model Zeno form in that rotation because I know with

923
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: all these injuries, a guy may come up soon at

924
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: some point.

925
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 4: You never know.

926
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, last night you mentioned it another Urie day five innings,

927
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 3: four hits, horn and run five k zero walks.

928
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 2: He has just been lights out.

929
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:29,080
Speaker 3: He's one of the youngest guys in that level. Like

930
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 3: you said, Double A toughest competition by far for him

931
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 3: to start this season, not to start the season, but

932
00:40:34,239 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: to start the season, I think at a ball or sorry,

933
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 3: you started.

934
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: A double I'm sorry about that.

935
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 4: He started a double A.

936
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 3: He started double A. He's made ten starts and he's

937
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 3: pitching phenomenally. He's striking on more than more than about

938
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,880
Speaker 3: an inning, which is very impressive, and he's got sixty

939
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 3: three k's and forty six innings. I'm very excited. I

940
00:40:50,520 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 3: really hope my bold prediction does come through. Whether the

941
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: Mons are in and it or not, it won't be,

942
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,279
Speaker 3: but in September, maybe he's gonna make one start, and

943
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 3: I think that would bring a lot of excitement in

944
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 3: the future of what this could be about. Sandy, Yuri

945
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 3: and Edward and all those you know, six or five

946
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:07,080
Speaker 3: and above guys in the rotation.

947
00:41:07,239 --> 00:41:08,279
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a lot of fun.

948
00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 5: All those throwers, you know, all those guys that can

949
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 5: throw hard and have a lot of movement on their

950
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 5: on their on their fastball I guess or sinker if

951
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:16,799
Speaker 5: you want to call it, you know, and then of

952
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:19,399
Speaker 5: course like they're you know, the nasty change that Caba has.

953
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 5: It's a lot to look forward to with Paris like

954
00:41:22,719 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 5: he but then again, it's just another picture, you know that.

955
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 5: It's that they were they were able to develop and grow,

956
00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 5: you know so, But I don't think in terms of

957
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 5: calling a parrot like Paris like in the near future. Hmmm.

958
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe what I just say, maybe a start at

959
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 5: the end of the season. But I don't to be

960
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:44,000
Speaker 5: honest to me personally, I don't expect him to appear

961
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:46,680
Speaker 5: make his appearance in the Marnins this season maybe, but

962
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:51,200
Speaker 5: definitely for next season. Like like, this is definitely a

963
00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:55,120
Speaker 5: picture that the Marnins need, like to start in their

964
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 5: rotation next year.

965
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think the most from Urie Winters roster movement

966
00:42:00,920 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 1: and maybe the triple A. He he definitely needs to

967
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:05,200
Speaker 1: make it up there to triple A. Maybe if it's

968
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,960
Speaker 1: right at the end of the season, like they were

969
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: there with Max Mine. I know it was because of

970
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: another reason, but maybe get pair Pery up there to

971
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: triple A. See how he does against that talent, which

972
00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: shouldn't be you know, nothing crazy because some of these

973
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,560
Speaker 1: guys are longtime MLB journeyman who just pretty much are

974
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: out of it at this point, or guys who are

975
00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 1: at the cusp of the MLB and look at that.

976
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,840
Speaker 1: That was from yesterday during Yari's press conference.

977
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,239
Speaker 4: So let's and then the last guy.

978
00:42:28,320 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: We'll mention here I think you kind of glimpsed at

979
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: him was Griff of Conin, and we mentioned the strike

980
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,160
Speaker 1: out rate. He's at a thirty eight point two strike

981
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:37,200
Speaker 1: out rate at the moment, so it's even higher than

982
00:42:37,280 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: last season, which was thirty seven. His walk rate has

983
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,080
Speaker 1: gone down as well, which is an eight point seven

984
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: walk percent walk rate. It's it's very concerning the strike

985
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:49,720
Speaker 1: out rate. But the thing with Conine is he's hitting

986
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 1: a lot more for contact instead of power, which is

987
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,439
Speaker 1: something I've very much noticed, which is incredible. I talked

988
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 1: to Arom Layton, who is friends with Conine and covers

989
00:42:56,880 --> 00:43:00,399
Speaker 1: this more than I do, and he that's pretty much

990
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:01,720
Speaker 1: and I think I was on the point on point

991
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: with that. So hopefully he gets to go in in

992
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: double A and actually went he's at a thirty seven

993
00:43:07,239 --> 00:43:10,399
Speaker 1: point three k rate twelve point three walk rate.

994
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,359
Speaker 4: Okay, I was completely.

995
00:43:12,040 --> 00:43:13,440
Speaker 1: Wrong on that, but yeah, let's move on to the

996
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,560
Speaker 1: final level before we wrap this pot up.

997
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:16,040
Speaker 4: Triple A.

998
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 1: Just any guys that you come up to, you come

999
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: up to your mind Isaac, there's.

1000
00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:24,120
Speaker 2: One guy and one guy.

1001
00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 3: I only know we should be talking about the day,

1002
00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 3: we should be talking about verdict. But it's Gerar, the

1003
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 3: guy who was on the Texas Colly who went to

1004
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 3: Philadelphia just in case, you know, something went down with

1005
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 3: Avi's left hand. He's a guy, man, I've said it.

1006
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 3: He's you know, he's been on this forty man for

1007
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,399
Speaker 3: a very long time. He's got as much raw power

1008
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 3: as anyone in the system. We saw him hit some

1009
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 3: bombs in spring training in twenty nineteen, then he had

1010
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 3: a couple this year as well. He's a guy where

1011
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 3: you know, it's a shame, like Alex mentioned that, you know,

1012
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,720
Speaker 3: he's us Aguilar wasn't considered that stop gap. They decided

1013
00:43:51,760 --> 00:43:55,160
Speaker 3: to sort of ride him into like their quote unquote

1014
00:43:55,200 --> 00:43:55,959
Speaker 3: contention time.

1015
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,800
Speaker 2: And it's they've just blocked two guys.

1016
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:00,799
Speaker 3: You know, Leywan Diaz googlob defense with one of the

1017
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 3: top first base prospects in all of baseball, and they're

1018
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: blocking Jawar and Carnaciono's you know, one of the highest

1019
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 3: ceiling offensive pieces that they have in their system. So,

1020
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,719
Speaker 3: like I said, really really concerning roster.

1021
00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: Construction, roster moves.

1022
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 3: By this you know, Baseball Operations department, because those are

1023
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 3: two guys that would much rather see than you know,

1024
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 3: he's regularly.

1025
00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: It has been great.

1026
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: He's been a pivotal part of this team for the

1027
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: last three years. But at some point, like Alex mentioned,

1028
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:28,399
Speaker 3: you have to see what these kids have. Either trade them,

1029
00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,919
Speaker 3: trade Aguilar, but you just can't keep them in triple

1030
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:32,920
Speaker 3: A forever. These guys, like I said, forty man for

1031
00:44:32,920 --> 00:44:34,919
Speaker 3: a very long time. Since twenty nineteen, he's.

1032
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:35,520
Speaker 2: Been on the forty man.

1033
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,200
Speaker 4: What are you?

1034
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 2: What are we doing here? So he's the guy for.

1035
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,959
Speaker 3: Me, and you know, like you mentioned, Elaser, Hernandez starts today,

1036
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 3: we'll probablys see him sooner rather than later.

1037
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the last thing I'll mention with Jiar is

1038
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:50,880
Speaker 1: you mentioned twenty nineteen spring training because the guy's been

1039
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:54,640
Speaker 1: on the forty man for almost three years. It's you know,

1040
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,320
Speaker 1: at some point, this guy's going to make his MLB

1041
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: debut because they already were reluctant enough to call him

1042
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: up for obviously, we I know they'll throw him in

1043
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 1: the outfield is what we expect, which is not the

1044
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 1: most ideal spot for him. The most ideal is probably

1045
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,239
Speaker 1: first base with DH but you know, if he can

1046
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: make it, if they'll bring him up at some point,

1047
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: I'll be happy with that. You mentioned Bade and Burdick.

1048
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,320
Speaker 1: Those guys have just not been good, you know. Verdick

1049
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: went from Minor League Player of the Year for the

1050
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 1: Marlins to now just being mediocre at best is what

1051
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,440
Speaker 1: we're looking at. Like they just can't get contact on

1052
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: the bad unless it's a home run. Charles LeBlanc is

1053
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 1: playing very well. The pitching rotation, Brian Homen He's pretty

1054
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:32,240
Speaker 1: much been like the standard of their rotation, while Max Simierz,

1055
00:45:32,400 --> 00:45:34,440
Speaker 1: the guy's going six to seven innings deep into games,

1056
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 1: which is very impressive. That's pretty much all I got

1057
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 1: in the minor league. And then you mentioned Aguilar. To

1058
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,799
Speaker 1: be honest with you, I don't think the Marlins really

1059
00:45:40,840 --> 00:45:44,040
Speaker 1: expected Aguilar to be what he's doing now because after

1060
00:45:44,120 --> 00:45:47,239
Speaker 1: a really bad stint in Tampa Bay, he's doing what

1061
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,880
Speaker 1: he's doing now, which is just out of this world. So, Alex,

1062
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: if you have any guys, any thoughts on the Triple

1063
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,280
Speaker 1: A side of the minor leagues.

1064
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 5: You know, I was a big fan of Verdick. You know,

1065
00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 5: he's in like two thirty I believe this season. You know,

1066
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:02,160
Speaker 5: he's kind of like really really big decline from his

1067
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:06,720
Speaker 5: performance last year. But in turn and there's like an injury,

1068
00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:09,880
Speaker 5: and because like with the infield, I would like to

1069
00:46:09,880 --> 00:46:11,919
Speaker 5: see him called up because like you know, Isaac said,

1070
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 5: at some point, you got to see what they what,

1071
00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 5: you know, what these players have, you know, and I

1072
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 5: would and I would like to see him perform probably

1073
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:24,600
Speaker 5: do well. But yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm a fan of Aguilar.

1074
00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 5: He is playing out of this world. It's just that

1075
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 5: I I just didn't think in all in terms. Yeah, definitely,

1076
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 5: I just feel like Aguilar has just was not the

1077
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,479
Speaker 5: plans for the seam in the future when at all

1078
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:42,120
Speaker 5: at all. But Verdict is the name. Diaz is another

1079
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 5: name I want to see play like the But then

1080
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 5: again how Cooper as well, So like like there's a

1081
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 5: lot of moves that this team needs to make before

1082
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,440
Speaker 5: they want to make room further these other guys like

1083
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 5: Diaz and Incarnacion. It's not just calling them up because

1084
00:46:55,360 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 5: then you're gonna take away the playing time of guys

1085
00:46:57,800 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 5: who you're paying a lot of money to with the

1086
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 5: guard Sea and Sola, And it's just like at first,

1087
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 5: I was like, okay, but this could be a nice

1088
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 5: problem to have, but if you start calling up these players,

1089
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 5: that nice problem to have is just gonna turn into

1090
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 5: a problem. And and it's gonna you know, so it's

1091
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: not just a couple moves. I feel like, if you're

1092
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,080
Speaker 5: gonna make the room for these you know, for these

1093
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:19,840
Speaker 5: young guys to play, then you have to determine what

1094
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 5: the direction of your season is gonna be, if you

1095
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 5: you know, in the bigger on the grand scheme of things.

1096
00:47:25,719 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 5: But yeah, no, I love Hayesus. It's just, you know,

1097
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 5: I thought he'd be like a Casey McGee, like, you know,

1098
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 5: one guy, one year player. Okay, thanks, you know, for

1099
00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 5: your you know, thanks for your service. But we're gonna

1100
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: continue moving on with what our plan is. And I

1101
00:47:37,400 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 5: feel like since the performance of this of the Marlins

1102
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:43,640
Speaker 5: as a whole wasn't up to expectations, he's these veterans

1103
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 5: kind of just lingered around a bit.

1104
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 1: I think this is where we will end the podcast. Alex,

1105
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 1: thank you for coming on, man, if you have any

1106
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:52,240
Speaker 1: last words, just it was a great time.

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00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 5: Oh no, yeah, man, I would love to come back.

1108
00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:56,840
Speaker 5: It was great. You know, I love talking about the Marlins.

1109
00:47:56,840 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 5: And once again you like the Fist Stripes family has

1110
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 5: been extremely welcoming, has been extremely gracious with me, especially

1111
00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:05,919
Speaker 5: in the press box. So everyone there, you know, thank

1112
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:09,840
Speaker 5: you guys, to Isaac, to Kevin, to Eli and just

1113
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 5: everyone else and then Fist Strikes Family. You guys are amazing.

1114
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 5: Continue the great work. I appreciate I appreciate you guys

1115
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:16,520
Speaker 5: having me on. Thank you so much.

1116
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is where we'll end it. From Isaac,

1117
00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 1: from Alex for myself, Eli on the production side, Thank

1118
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Speaker 1: you guys for watching. We'll see guys all in two weeks.

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Speaker 1: Go Fish.