WEBVTT - Justin Verlander's retirement, the MLB Draft and a trade mailbag 0:00:09.720 --> 0:00:12.240 And welcome in. And during that episode of Tiger Territory, 0:00:12.280 --> 0:00:15.400 partly the Foul Territory Detroit Tiger's Podcast, I'm Kieruscley with 0:00:15.440 --> 0:00:17.160 me as always as a man who makes the road 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:21.000 less traveled a little bit more traveled. He is Cody Stavenhagen. 0:00:21.040 --> 0:00:23.960 How we doing doing good? Doing good? I tell people 0:00:24.040 --> 0:00:27.880 travel is the best and worst part of this job. 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:30.120 But you know what's going on right now, Kieran. The 0:00:30.160 --> 0:00:34.840 Tigers just keep winning. I'm telling you, it's getting interesting. 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.680 They've won seven of eight. Playoff odds are up to 0:00:37.720 --> 0:00:41.440 thirty three percent. Somewhere Scott Harris is sitting there and 0:00:41.520 --> 0:00:43.080 just being like I told you. 0:00:46.240 --> 0:00:49.840 There's a lot of I told you is that given 0:00:49.880 --> 0:00:51.640 the nature of the game, he might want to take 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:55.880 advantage of before things potentially go go horribly wrong as 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:58.040 we've seen like either way, man, it can happen in 0:00:58.080 --> 0:01:01.960 the snap. And that's what we're seeing recording this Thursday morning. 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:05.360 It will be published right a little bit, a little 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:08.000 bit before noon. I am traveling all day today, so 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:10.640 I wanted to get this in before Thursday night's game, 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.399 and and you know, with all the topics going on, 0:01:13.440 --> 0:01:15.760 I just didn't really feel like waiting around to talk 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.840 about him, and one of them is Dylan Dingler. So 0:01:18.880 --> 0:01:21.720 we'll probably get more clarity later today, but we do 0:01:21.880 --> 0:01:24.160 kind of want to address it right now. Dylan Dingler 0:01:24.319 --> 0:01:27.760 takes a foul ball off his throwing hand, off a 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.440 check swing knob of foul ball, if memory serves, and 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:34.360 stayed in the game, got looked at pretty well, stayed 0:01:34.400 --> 0:01:36.440 in the game, and then event you know, to finish 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.000 the ending, and then eventually gets pulled for Jake Rogers, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:41.400 who it's a home run. So again, all the fun 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.160 stories around this team continue with the Jake Rodgers piece there, 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:48.160 but with Dylan Dingler X raiser negative. More tests probably 0:01:48.200 --> 0:01:52.200 literally happen right now as we're recording this. Uh, I 0:01:52.280 --> 0:01:57.200 didn't get a panicked impression watching a J. Hinch's presser 0:01:57.240 --> 0:01:59.840 and him kind of explaining it. But and you know, again, 0:02:00.040 --> 0:02:02.320 the initial X rays were negative. That obviously is a 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:05.960 good thing. But so we don't necessarily have to speculate 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:09.080 about the injury, you know, before we know anything. But 0:02:09.520 --> 0:02:12.680 the larger question is Cody. The Tigers have been pretty 0:02:12.720 --> 0:02:16.600 stable at catcher for the better part of two years now, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:20.080 and at credit to those guys for for the most part, 0:02:20.120 --> 0:02:22.760 being healthy. Thomas Nito last year when Jake Rogers had 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:27.200 the oblique, What would be the plan now if either 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:30.360 one of them happened to get hurt, Because they have 0:02:30.400 --> 0:02:35.080 a couple of catchers on the forty man, but they're 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.440 more on the forty man for protection reasons than immediate 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:41.240 call of reasons. I thought, so, what do you think 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:42.280 would kind of be the plan? 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:45.920 You know, it would actually be pretty interesting to see, 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.880 I guess. I hope we don't have to see it. 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:51.160 But there are two options to Amasnito kind of the stable, 0:02:51.320 --> 0:02:54.040 sturdy veteran. You know what you're getting, the defense is 0:02:54.080 --> 0:02:57.160 going to be pretty good. Or Edwardo Valencia, you know, 0:02:57.240 --> 0:02:58.760 a guy who for a little bit was a little 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:01.280 bit of a darling in training. He has an eight 0:03:01.400 --> 0:03:05.440 thirty nine ops in Toledo. Back when it seemed to 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:07.800 the Tigers were going to sell everything off and have 0:03:07.840 --> 0:03:10.320 to punt this season, I was kind of interested, like, 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:13.080 are they, you know, are they going to give Valencia 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:15.880 a shot? You know what would that mean for Jake 0:03:16.000 --> 0:03:18.679 Rogers if they just want to see Valencia play. I 0:03:18.720 --> 0:03:23.600 don't think the defense is good, but the bat is 0:03:24.840 --> 0:03:26.919 pretty real. I say that in the context of I 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:29.520 still know exactly what that looks like in the major leagues. 0:03:29.560 --> 0:03:32.640 But this guy can hit the ball really hard. He 0:03:32.680 --> 0:03:36.880 can catch up to velocity. He's not quite matched what 0:03:36.920 --> 0:03:38.960 he did in the miners last year when he had 0:03:38.960 --> 0:03:42.200 a nine to forty one ops twenty four homers, except well, 0:03:42.280 --> 0:03:44.880 the homer total might end up even higher. He has 0:03:44.960 --> 0:03:48.640 sixteen bombs right now in Triple A Toledo. He's an 0:03:48.680 --> 0:03:52.200 interesting right handed bat who is probably going to be 0:03:52.200 --> 0:03:55.880 in this organization in some fashion for a few more 0:03:55.960 --> 0:03:59.800 years to come. I don't really know who they would pick, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.680 and some of it might depend where they're at, given 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.840 the role they're on right now. I wonder if it 0:04:04.840 --> 0:04:08.000 would make more sense to just bring up Needo, because 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.840 you know what you get. You know, he can manage 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.640 the pitching staff, the defense, all that. It seems a 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:17.280 little safer. But if they were to fall completely out 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:19.200 of it, I think there's a stronger case to just 0:04:19.279 --> 0:04:22.479 let Valencia play. So I don't know, and I hope 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:24.560 I don't have to find out anytime. Sooning stuff. The 0:04:24.560 --> 0:04:27.960 Tigers lose Dylan Dingler, that would be quite the blow. 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:34.120 Obviously, obviously. And yeah, and I would say in regards 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:37.960 to the needle piece of this, the starting pitching, you 0:04:37.960 --> 0:04:42.640 know Melton nine kgs yesterday. The starting pitching is so 0:04:42.880 --> 0:04:46.240 much a part of what we're experiencing with this twenty 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:50.640 and twelve record since June first, that you every corner 0:04:50.839 --> 0:04:53.320 sort of move really has to kind of be made 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:55.400 with that in mind to be able to maximize the 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.760 starting pitching. I had no idea of Valencia of what 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:00.479 his capabilities are with that, no I So I'm not 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:02.720 saying he can't do it, but we do have proof 0:05:02.720 --> 0:05:06.320 of concept with Tomas, so that tends to be even 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.719 if it's safer, one could argue would be the more 0:05:08.760 --> 0:05:12.520 astute thing to do as well. And shout out Jake 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:15.200 coming off the bench obviously not expecting to ever come 0:05:15.200 --> 0:05:17.840 off the bench in the second inning when you're when 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.000 you're backing up, Dylan Dingler come off the bench hit 0:05:20.000 --> 0:05:23.320 a bomb, just to you know, and also he scores 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:25.520 a run with the torque bomb too. Just just a 0:05:25.560 --> 0:05:27.960 guy that you just can't help but smile when you 0:05:28.000 --> 0:05:31.080 see him have success. So, like you know, there's there 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:34.440 there's a lot that people, some that can say about 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:36.760 Jake Rogers and what is like, you know, his hitting 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.640 ceiling is whatever. There's a lot that makes me think 0:05:39.720 --> 0:05:42.360 I just want Jake Rogers on my baseball team as 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.040 long as possible. You know, there will be an endpoint 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:47.279 to this, but as long as possible. I like watching 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:48.479 Jake Rodgers play baseball. 0:05:48.880 --> 0:05:52.000 Yeah, in another world where we had nothing else to 0:05:52.160 --> 0:05:54.560 talk about and things were boring, we could spend ten 0:05:54.600 --> 0:05:56.960 minutes talking about Jake Rogers. A Jake kind of wax 0:05:57.040 --> 0:06:01.760 poetic about Jake last night. He's he still remains a 0:06:01.760 --> 0:06:03.960 glue guy for this team. That is all very real, 0:06:04.040 --> 0:06:06.960 and he's done a pretty admirable job of handling a 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.560 significant role change, a significant decline and playing time over 0:06:10.600 --> 0:06:14.719 the past let's say calendar year. Unfortunately, we have like 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:18.520 a million other things going on. So Jake, we'll get 0:06:18.520 --> 0:06:20.000 to you a little more next time. How's that. 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:26.280 Well, you know, we talked a little bit a couple 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:29.279 episodes ago about the Tigers not having a pitching All 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:33.920 Star pitcher All Star you know this year, and well, 0:06:33.920 --> 0:06:36.560 lo and behold, major League Baseball said we can't have that, 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:42.719 and they selected Justin Verlander to be the commissioner's pick. 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:46.159 And it coincided with them. It was with him like 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.080 fifteen to twenty minutes Justin Verlander announcing that he will 0:06:49.080 --> 0:06:52.240 retire at the end of the season. So those things 0:06:52.279 --> 0:06:55.760 are certain. Justin Verlander is an honorary All Star. Justin 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.240 Verlander will retire at the end of the season. What 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.400 everything else is kind of up in the air. Is 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:03.719 that Is that a good way to summarize that? 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:09.000 Well, like, yeah, to be clear, Justin Verlander is retiring. 0:07:09.080 --> 0:07:12.520 He is not retiring today. He is still pretty adminant 0:07:12.560 --> 0:07:15.400 that he is going to come back and pitch. My 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:18.240 day yesterday was just a train wreck. I was like 0:07:18.320 --> 0:07:21.040 out for a run before heading to the ballpark. I 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:23.680 get home, I'm all sweaty. It's like, Justin's going to 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.000 the All Star Game. It's like, well, okay, he's hurt, 0:07:26.040 --> 0:07:29.160 but cool, Yeah, I can start trying to write something up. Oh, 0:07:29.200 --> 0:07:32.640 by the way, Justin Verlander is retiring. So it turns 0:07:32.680 --> 0:07:37.200 out these announcements were more or less coordinated, although it's 0:07:37.240 --> 0:07:39.800 still kind of funny how it came out. Rob Manfred 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:44.160 had known this for a while. Justin wanted kind of 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:48.480 the announcement that he's retiring at season's end. To coincide 0:07:48.480 --> 0:07:52.000 with the All Star Legend pick announcement, basically because he 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:54.080 didn't want to go into the All Star Game where 0:07:54.120 --> 0:07:57.280 there is a crazy media presence and have to be 0:07:57.400 --> 0:08:00.040 asked a million times are you retiring or are you not? 0:08:00.240 --> 0:08:03.040 Or do you know what's going on? It was interesting 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:05.880 both Justin's statement that he put out on social media 0:08:06.080 --> 0:08:09.160 was clearly really good, really heartfelt, and then to hear 0:08:09.240 --> 0:08:12.960 him talk. Obviously it's been a tough year for him, 0:08:13.040 --> 0:08:15.360 but he was able to talk about all this with 0:08:15.520 --> 0:08:17.960 a pretty high degree of clarity. He said, you know, 0:08:18.000 --> 0:08:20.640 it's the right conclusion. He's at peace with it. He's 0:08:21.160 --> 0:08:25.280 been trending this direction for quite some time, talking about 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.840 things out in the open that he never really would 0:08:27.880 --> 0:08:30.440 have even shared with himself before, in terms of just 0:08:30.880 --> 0:08:33.360 kind of uttering the word retirement and maybe it's time 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:36.960 to be done and his body is fighting him. But 0:08:37.040 --> 0:08:40.760 all that said, there wasn't too much reminiscing. There wasn't 0:08:40.760 --> 0:08:42.640 too much you know. I asked him, like, what do 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:44.720 you want your life after baseball to look like? And 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:46.880 he kind of said, I'm not ready to talk about 0:08:46.920 --> 0:08:49.680 that because he's still pretty adamant he's going to pitch 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:52.240 this year. There might be people out there rolling their 0:08:52.280 --> 0:08:54.280 eyes at that, and I don't know that I blame you, 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:57.280 but like I'm just telling you what Justin Verlander is saying. 0:08:57.360 --> 0:08:59.720 He thinks he can make it back. That might just 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.840 be the competitor in him. That might be the mindset 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:06.160 that got him great, made him such a great pitcher, 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:08.760 now has him kind of holding on a little bit 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.760 stubbornly at the end. But he's gonna throw a bullpen 0:09:11.920 --> 0:09:15.520 session today Thursday. Maybe that'll provide some better clarity as 0:09:15.520 --> 0:09:18.120 to where he's at with this most recent injury, the 0:09:18.160 --> 0:09:20.920 hamstring strain. I don't know what it looks like when 0:09:20.920 --> 0:09:23.559 he comes back. I think let's imagine the Tigers keep 0:09:23.640 --> 0:09:26.680 rolling and keep winning and their rotation stays healthy and 0:09:26.720 --> 0:09:30.320 every game matters. When and how are you even mixing 0:09:30.400 --> 0:09:33.560 him in? That could get weird if you fall totally 0:09:33.640 --> 0:09:35.439 out of it. It could be very easy to give 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:38.199 him a ceremonial start and sell a bunch of tickets 0:09:38.200 --> 0:09:40.720 and everyone feels happy for a day. So I don't 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.960 know exactly what this is going to look like, But 0:09:43.640 --> 0:09:46.960 if Justin Verlner has his way, kind of his last 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:49.720 conquest in Major League Baseball. I think is going to 0:09:49.760 --> 0:09:52.080 be making it back to the mound and pitching at 0:09:52.120 --> 0:09:55.120 Camerica Park at least one last time. If we're up 0:09:55.120 --> 0:09:57.240 to Justin Verlander, he'd like to come back and be 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.439 a serious contributor to this team down the stretch. All 0:10:01.520 --> 0:10:03.120 that of course saw us to play. 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:09.000 Out serious contributor to a serious competitor. Chalk him among 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:12.720 the guys that is sort of saying like, hey, like 0:10:12.760 --> 0:10:15.640 we understand how we got here, but we're playing good 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:20.040 baseball and like they're not in cell mode. And I 0:10:20.080 --> 0:10:22.920 actually kind of appreciate him, And I think school Boll 0:10:23.000 --> 0:10:25.240 has been on the record of saying this, like just 0:10:25.280 --> 0:10:27.920 being like, yeah, like we're trying to win. We're trying 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:31.160 to encourage the front office to buy at the trade deadline, 0:10:31.559 --> 0:10:35.920 which is kind of impressive given just where we were 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.800 and all the things that we were talking about not 0:10:37.880 --> 0:10:41.040 too long ago. So like you say, like, if they're 0:10:41.080 --> 0:10:43.160 out of it'd be easy to give him an honorary start, 0:10:43.160 --> 0:10:46.880 and that's obviously true. But I think Justin Berlander and 0:10:46.920 --> 0:10:48.680 the competitor in him and sort of like how we 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:53.400 envisioned this storybook ending wants to pitch meaningful baseball for 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:56.760 a meaningful baseball team. So obviously a lot to be 0:10:57.080 --> 0:10:59.800 determined between now and then. On both sides of that, 0:11:00.200 --> 0:11:02.679 it did seem like that is still very much his 0:11:02.800 --> 0:11:06.280 intention despite everything that's gone on so far. All Right, 0:11:06.360 --> 0:11:08.679 we are going to take a quick break and then 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:11.720 afterward do a little MLB Draft talk as this weekend 0:11:11.760 --> 0:11:14.920 the MLB Draft is happening, and will the Tigers stick 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:18.960 to their model that more after this break book. 0:11:19.000 --> 0:11:22.240 In summertime, it's cool in the morning, hot during the day, 0:11:22.559 --> 0:11:25.679 cool again at night. Rarely am I sitting there going, Oh, 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.880 I'm just gonna do one thing at a time. I'm 0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:31.040 bouncing from work, I'm bouncing in the yard, I'm running 0:11:31.120 --> 0:11:36.080 to a game. Fabletics has got me with price, comfort 0:11:36.240 --> 0:11:40.000 and versatility with all the gear that I'm getting from them. 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.440 Yeah, we're talking about premium activewear you'd expect from higher 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.800 end brands, but without the price tag. 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They split it up over the 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:30.800 course of two days, so Saturday and Sunday the Tigers 0:12:30.800 --> 0:12:33.840 will make their newest selections to add to the organization. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.040 And so I wanted to kind of start out by 0:12:38.160 --> 0:12:40.520 going backward a little bit, Cody and just kind of 0:12:40.600 --> 0:12:45.120 give some names that have our noteworthy under the really 0:12:45.160 --> 0:12:48.840 short in terms of draft Scott Harris regime, and of 0:12:48.840 --> 0:12:52.959 course Kevin McGonagall that's a headliner. Kevin mcgonagal was the 0:12:53.000 --> 0:12:56.120 second pick of the Harris regime after Max Clark, who 0:12:57.559 --> 0:12:59.680 we'll get into that in a second. Feels like somebody 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:01.400 who has at least kind of lived up to the 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:04.120 prospect hype, if at least we just don't know what 0:13:04.200 --> 0:13:06.360 kind of Major League Baseball player he will be because 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.040 he has yet to reach the majors. Jim Jarvis, old 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:11.920 friend Jim Jarvis, who was a part of the Rafael 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:13.960 Montero trade. He was a leven round pick. He's made 0:13:14.000 --> 0:13:16.600 the major leagues. He's got like twenty at bats for Atlanta. 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:18.760 So you know, eleven round pick made the biggest. Couple 0:13:18.720 --> 0:13:22.280 of years later, thought that was of note. And then 0:13:22.320 --> 0:13:25.880 you have got a couple of guys that feel promising 0:13:26.000 --> 0:13:30.560 to some scouts and some prospect analyst Max Anderson, John Beck, 0:13:31.080 --> 0:13:34.800 Brent Callahan. We might see some of those guys this year, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:37.800 you know, depending on how things shake up. And then, 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.520 of course, kind of appropriately we're talking about this now 0:13:40.600 --> 0:13:46.040 in twenty twenty three, Rice Rayner, who just came off 0:13:46.080 --> 0:13:49.600 a five for five hit day, looking like a guy 0:13:49.640 --> 0:13:52.160 who could end up being at or near the top 0:13:52.240 --> 0:13:55.160 of a lot of prospect rankings. Obviously I don't have 0:13:55.160 --> 0:13:57.640 a scouting report on him, but my feed is flooded 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:01.000 with things that Bryce Rayner is doing quite impressive. He'll 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:03.920 he'll probably climb up the system. And then you know, 0:14:04.200 --> 0:14:07.160 last year, Jordan Jost, first round pick, he had a 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.760 had a home run in a spring training game. First pitch. 0:14:09.880 --> 0:14:13.000 I believe in the spring that they faced in a spring 0:14:13.040 --> 0:14:14.599 training game hit a home run. So that was a 0:14:14.679 --> 0:14:18.760 nice little story. These are everybody knows the theme here. 0:14:19.280 --> 0:14:23.480 The Harris regime loves up the middle athletes that bat 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:27.240 left handed, and so so I have a I have 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:33.760 like a quick thought here, Cody, is this Are they 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:35.600 gonna have to Are they gonna double down on this 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.600 strategy this year? Especially the prep piece of this, because 0:14:39.240 --> 0:14:42.720 it is of no, we didn't talk about this. The 0:14:42.760 --> 0:14:45.400 you know, major League Baseball as part of their collective bargaining, 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:50.200 you know, putting putting out information about the things that 0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:54.560 they're you know, talking to the players about, has included 0:14:54.720 --> 0:14:58.400 no more high school players ineligible for the draft. So 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:04.240 it stands to reason this could be the last prep draft, 0:15:04.440 --> 0:15:07.600 and this is the last prep draft. This is the 0:15:07.800 --> 0:15:09.920 last opportunity you're gonna have to get these kind of 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:12.560 guys at eighteen, seventeen years old, nineteen years old in 0:15:12.640 --> 0:15:16.440 some cases and kind of mold them their entire base, 0:15:16.560 --> 0:15:19.920 you know, professional adult baseball career. So do you think 0:15:19.960 --> 0:15:23.960 that is something that is of a factor as the 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:25.520 Tigers approached this draft. 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:29.160 You're saying the end of preps being eligible for the 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:36.080 MLB Draft. Yeah, I doubt that would impact their decision 0:15:36.120 --> 0:15:38.160 making on a pick this year. I still think they're 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.880 going to take the player they like the most and 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:43.400 they think fits their organization the most. I don't think 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:46.640 they would reconfigure their draft board just to say, hey, 0:15:46.720 --> 0:15:49.480 let's get a high schooler one more time. I also 0:15:49.680 --> 0:15:54.720 think the idea of prep players like it. Good good 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.760 luck getting the union to agree to that. So there's 0:15:57.800 --> 0:15:59.760 still much to be determined. No, I don't think that'll 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:00.640 be a actor at all. 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:06.280 Okay, well, because again that's that's been the conversation at 0:16:06.280 --> 0:16:08.320 the top of the draft and obviously throughout for a 0:16:08.360 --> 0:16:12.360 lot of Scott Harrison, most notably is taking Max Clark 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:16.240 over Wyatt Langford, who I will remind people Whyite Langford 0:16:16.280 --> 0:16:19.000 has eleven point seven career war right now. He was 0:16:19.040 --> 0:16:21.520 a four point two guy as a rookie five point 0:16:21.560 --> 0:16:23.680 five last year. It's been hurt this year it's a 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:27.600 one point seven, but nobody's worried about Wyatt Langford having 0:16:27.640 --> 0:16:30.320 staying power in the major leagues. And I think you 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.920 and I were both on record as really liking that 0:16:33.000 --> 0:16:35.720 as a Tiger selection at that time. And then the 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.040 Max Clark piece happens, and we and you kind of 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.200 start to understand the philosophy of the Harris regime. Is 0:16:41.240 --> 0:16:46.000 it as simple as Max Clark, through no fault of 0:16:46.040 --> 0:16:47.680 his own, is going to have to live up to 0:16:47.720 --> 0:16:50.160 the building of a wyat Langford and Kevin McGonagall. 0:16:51.680 --> 0:16:54.760 Well, I think that really helps that you got Kevin McGonagall. 0:16:54.600 --> 0:16:58.360 And look, you know, the narrative is that they got 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:01.560 McGonagall because they were under able to go under slot 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.920 on Max Clark, and that is that is what they did. 0:17:05.240 --> 0:17:07.200 Is there a world where they could have got Langford 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:11.320 paid McGonagall. In that world, you probably don't draft Max Anderson. 0:17:11.400 --> 0:17:14.280 You have to go underslot. You know, way throughout the 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:16.199 rest of the draft. It's a little tighter. Could have 0:17:16.200 --> 0:17:19.400 been possible. I don't know, maybe, but this whole thing 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.160 looks a little better because at least you have Kevin McGonagall, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.600 and at least it looks like he's kind of a superstar. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:28.280 The bar for mac Clark, obviously is really high, especially 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:31.640 given the player why at Langford has become. We've talked 0:17:31.640 --> 0:17:34.680 about Max a lot, and again it is a little 0:17:34.760 --> 0:17:37.480 tough to note, you know, is he Corbyn Carroll was 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.000 his closest comp and is he going to reach that ceiling? 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:43.680 Like I don't know? Is Max Clark is still really young. 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:46.240 His minor league numbers is a similar age, not quite 0:17:46.240 --> 0:17:49.359 what Corbyn Carroll was doing. Okay, he's not Corbyn Carroll, 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.639 who's one of the best players in the majors. Maybe 0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:54.680 that's okay. Can you be an everyday center fielder? Can 0:17:54.680 --> 0:17:57.720 he be dynamic? Can he hit for power? Like we'll see? 0:17:58.320 --> 0:18:00.720 That's all to say, Like all this time we spend 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:03.480 on Max Clark, his development is still going really well. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:08.280 He's still a top ten prospect in the game. So yes, 0:18:08.480 --> 0:18:10.920 he is in the shadow of Why at Langford and 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.760 to some degree Kevin McGonagall now, And but that doesn't 0:18:13.800 --> 0:18:18.560 necessarily mean that any of this is going poorly. And 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.680 we still don't even really know if it was the 0:18:20.800 --> 0:18:23.800 right or wrong decision, although obviously why it would look 0:18:23.880 --> 0:18:25.920 quite nice on this ball clock right now. 0:18:27.280 --> 0:18:29.520 That's true. And with that in mind, I just wanted 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.520 to kind of lay out some names that I think 0:18:31.680 --> 0:18:37.439 have some degree of of Tiger's DNA in them, like 0:18:37.520 --> 0:18:40.040 that that that the regime would look for probably the 0:18:40.040 --> 0:18:43.439 most popular un connected to them would be Trevor Condon. 0:18:43.520 --> 0:18:48.560 He's an outfielder from Georgia. Guess what. He bats left 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:50.280 handed and people think he has a you know, he 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:52.760 has a smart played approach and can stick in center field, 0:18:52.800 --> 0:18:56.720 although obviously, you know, being that young in that body type, 0:18:56.760 --> 0:19:01.520 sometimes you don't know for sure. Cole Prosek, it's a catcher. 0:19:02.240 --> 0:19:03.960 Some think he's going to be a third basement but 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:07.880 again bat's left handed, and uh and and somebody who 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:12.359 has a advanced plate approach. Aj Garcia is one if 0:19:12.400 --> 0:19:14.520 you want to go to college route. He's an outfielder 0:19:14.560 --> 0:19:20.440 from Virginia. He who has just baller numbers in college. 0:19:20.480 --> 0:19:23.000 So if they break the mold, aj Garcia just kind 0:19:23.000 --> 0:19:26.119 of feels like somebody that would that they could do 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:29.080 it for. And then one that I am intrigued by 0:19:29.119 --> 0:19:31.080 because I think these are there are a lot of 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:36.720 boxes here that the Tigers will like. Is Rocko Maniscalco. 0:19:37.280 --> 0:19:41.200 That's a hell of a name, right Alabama shortstop prep guy, 0:19:41.280 --> 0:19:44.840 seventeen years old. He reclassified Cody. He's a switch hitter. 0:19:45.040 --> 0:19:49.280 He's already six two, one two. He grades out grades 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:53.199 overall fifty on MLB pipeline, and he has an advanced 0:19:53.240 --> 0:19:55.320 approach for his age is what the Sky report is. 0:19:55.359 --> 0:19:58.440 So you throw in seventeen years old switch hitter, play 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:02.440 shortstop to play it approach at the plate. That feels 0:20:02.480 --> 0:20:04.679 like a lot of upside that Scott Harris would like. 0:20:04.720 --> 0:20:07.720 So those are just some names that obviously Tiger's Mileague 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.760 Report guys like that go really in depth on this. 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.200 I don't want to proclaim to have as much small 0:20:12.359 --> 0:20:13.879 knowledge as then, but those are some names that I 0:20:13.920 --> 0:20:16.960 thought make a lot of sense for the Tigers. 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.800 All right, Yeah, a couple of things real quick here. 0:20:20.920 --> 0:20:25.080 Kieran like like Ethan bass right handed shortstop, not left 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.920 handed shortstop. Right handed shortstop is kind of the name 0:20:28.000 --> 0:20:31.240 getting I think the most attraction on line among some 0:20:31.320 --> 0:20:34.280 people who know the draft world. I think that would 0:20:34.320 --> 0:20:40.560 be really interesting, good defender. He's kind of getting the 0:20:40.640 --> 0:20:42.399 name that's getting the most smoke right now, And I 0:20:42.440 --> 0:20:45.560 don't know what that means. I haven't heard that from 0:20:45.600 --> 0:20:48.560 anyone who is inside the Tigers draft room, and I'm 0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:50.600 at a place with this organization where if I don't 0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:52.879 hear it from someone who is in the room, I 0:20:53.200 --> 0:20:55.240 don't know. Especially at the draft. Remember when they took 0:20:55.400 --> 0:20:57.320 Max Clark, and all we had heard leading up to 0:20:57.320 --> 0:20:59.440 that draft, and I wrote it was that they wanted 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:03.120 a college hitter. Well that was BS. And then last 0:21:03.200 --> 0:21:05.600 year they took Jordan Jost, and I'm not sure i'd 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:08.280 ever heard Jordan Yost's name before. I didn't know who 0:21:08.320 --> 0:21:11.480 he was. So even though there's some stuff kind of 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:15.960 leaking out, I'm just skeptical with this organization. I've seen 0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:20.240 some mentions of Brody Boumila, a hard throwing, left handed 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:23.320 prep pitcher. I love the idea of them taking a 0:21:23.440 --> 0:21:26.000 high upside pitcher with this pick, but I'd kind of 0:21:26.040 --> 0:21:28.840