1 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Well, we always are looking at how to move the 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,520 Speaker 1: needle in the United States, and in the aftermath of 3 00:00:13,720 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk's death and the surge of powerful interest that 4 00:00:22,079 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: is on Christians now and we can't help it. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Now. 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: Axelrod on the left is freaking out over the resurgence 7 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: of Christians in politics, as though you know that was 8 00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: something which we never did before. But evidently we're at 9 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: a whole new level now. But we are not actually 10 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: the tip of the spear in that development. In Peru, 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: we studied something very closely. I've got Mercedes here with 12 00:00:45,600 --> 00:00:47,159 Speaker 1: me today. Glad you're in the studio. 13 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 3: Thanks Lean, it's happy to be here. 14 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: So in Peru we observe that George Soros, with his intricate, 15 00:00:54,440 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: wealth funded activist network pushing gender ideology as aggressively as 16 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:05,320 Speaker 1: he does in California and the United States, suddenly he hit. 17 00:01:05,160 --> 00:01:08,319 Speaker 4: A wall, and he hit that wall and got so. 18 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: Frustrated he actually wrote a report that this movement that 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:17,480 Speaker 1: is in Peru is so unstoppable, it's a waste of 20 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: his money to try to do any more. And he 21 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:22,400 Speaker 1: just got aggravated and pull this funding out from all 22 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 1: the activists. Now what happened was there was a Christian 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 1: strategist who was a Charlie Kirk type in Peru that said, 24 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:34,760 Speaker 1: we're not going to win this thing doing this Traditionally, 25 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,760 Speaker 1: the churches can say everything they want to say. You 26 00:01:37,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: can make your little Facebook and Twitter post whatever. We 27 00:01:40,959 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: need to mobilize a movement that moves the national conversation 28 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: against what they're doing. And the branding genius that spoke 29 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: into that movement is with us today. I want to 30 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: invite Christian rosas they get the names, they're all coachman, 31 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: how to say? How do you say that? I got 32 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:05,000 Speaker 1: Christian Christian Ross. 33 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 2: Christian Ross. There you go. 34 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 4: I love the. 35 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: Well, brother, thanks thanks for being with us today. Now, 36 00:02:12,040 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: first of all, let me before we get into the sorrows. 37 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: It's giving up on Peru and the movement you started 38 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: and the transferability of those ideas to the United States. 39 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: Uh tell us how did you get involved with Christian 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 1: activism in that stream that you're in right now? 41 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, thank you Lance for the interview, 42 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 5: and he is have no great opportunity and honor to 43 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 5: be your program. You know, I'm the son of a preacher, 44 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,360 Speaker 5: a pastor, a minister, and the grandson of a preacher 45 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 5: and the great grandson of a preacher. So I grew 46 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 5: up in church. My dad's been a pastor for thirty 47 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 5: three years and throughout those thirty three years I have 48 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 5: seen the work the church does missionaries do. And then 49 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,959 Speaker 5: my father retired from ministry and decided to run for 50 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 5: Congress and he was elected twice, two terms of five 51 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 5: year in Peru. And when he was elected the first 52 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 5: five years, recreated a movement to alert the church of 53 00:03:13,440 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 5: the threats that voised the expansion of gender ideology throughout 54 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,280 Speaker 5: the country. But it wasn't into the year twenty sixteen 55 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 5: when we had a president in Peru that decided to 56 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 5: enforce and enact and approve nine laws introducing gender nonsense. 57 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: Now they have their own terms known as soji which 58 00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 5: is sexual orientation and gender identity. With these two terms, 59 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 5: they were able to disguise the introduction of a whole 60 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 5: ideology that induced our children to question who they were 61 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 5: and in some extreme cases, like it has happened across 62 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 5: the world, like England, even persuade them to mutilate healthy 63 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 5: organs of their body just personified alive and that was done, 64 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 5: you know, blandly, unapologetically, as if there was no institution 65 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 5: on earth that was created to be the backbone of 66 00:04:20,480 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 5: the truth, which is the Church. I mean, we must 67 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 5: remember Apostle Paul writing into timaty Auntimothy saying that the 68 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 5: Church is the backbone, it is the banner of truth. 69 00:04:31,880 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 5: We are his witnesses, and it is us who were 70 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 5: meant to represent his truth at all times. 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 2: So the challenge for us, it grew, was what do 72 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 2: we do now? Do we unmold. 73 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:51,919 Speaker 5: Ourselves to the times, to the current government, do we comply, 74 00:04:52,600 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 5: do we become accomplice of what is going on? Or 75 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: do we have a moral conscience that comes from a 76 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 5: different spirit. And that's when I realized the moment had 77 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: a rived. The woman had to write for the Church 78 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 5: to act as he has always had throughout the ages. 79 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,279 Speaker 5: I mean, the only religion in the world that teaches 80 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 5: civil disobedience is that you the Christian values. It became 81 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:23,039 Speaker 5: Sira and Fua, the two ladies in Egypt that rejected 82 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: the orders of Pharaoh to murder the child who was 83 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 5: born a boy, who was the first planned parenthood proposal, 84 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:35,239 Speaker 5: and they disobeyed the king Pharaoh because the Bible says, 85 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 5: they fear God, and thanks to that fear of the Lord, 86 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 5: Moses was able to be born and to finally deliver 87 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 5: his people. 88 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 2: And we see that throughout the Bible. 89 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 5: We see Daniel and his friends, we see Daniel himself, 90 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:55,359 Speaker 5: we see Peter or his sone on ask four and 91 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,760 Speaker 5: that's five, and he asked the question who should we obey, 92 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 5: whether man or God? And then he answers it it's 93 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 5: better to bey God rather than men. So civil disobedience 94 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 5: that that the point of electing to obey God above 95 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:14,680 Speaker 5: of bibedience to men, when man decides to demand what 96 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 5: God forbids, or when men forbids what God demands, is 97 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 5: a specific trait of the Christian Church throughout the ages. 98 00:06:23,880 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: All right, So I'm want to jump in here for 99 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,599 Speaker 1: this one second because I want to make sure I'm 100 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: loving this conversation, but I want to make sure I 101 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: get everything in in ten minutes. 102 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,720 Speaker 4: That's going to be so hard. You're absolutely right. 103 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: Civil disobedience is something that the weak church in the 104 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 1: West is constantly because we have enough freedom so we 105 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:45,400 Speaker 1: can excuse, oh, you. 106 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 4: Know, we're not going to do that. We're not going 107 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 4: to do this. 108 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: It's too political Charlie Kirk threw down the gauntlet and 109 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: went into the education, media and politics as a Christian, 110 00:06:57,440 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 1: and a lot of my friends were all cringing and 111 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: one going too far. And now I'm looking at it 112 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,279 Speaker 1: and saying, wait a second, I don't think God is 113 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: saying he went too far. I'm thinking he's saying this 114 00:07:08,480 --> 00:07:13,320 Speaker 1: is a prototype of courageous Christian engagement in culture. Find 115 00:07:13,360 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: the area you've got to go. And so now they 116 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: have the laws. You'll be fined in Peru, you're gonna 117 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: be jailed or whatever. 118 00:07:19,760 --> 00:07:20,480 Speaker 4: But you go on. 119 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: National television this is the story I heard and you 120 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: decided to be Daniel, and you're not gonna You're not 121 00:07:26,920 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 1: going to cooperate. 122 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 4: You're gonna go to the lines. Then tell people what happened. 123 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 5: Yes, So when the nine laws were sett in place, 124 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: we gathered the church. 125 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 2: There was a big discussion. 126 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 5: Some people were saying, what we're at the end of times, 127 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 5: this is how it's gonna be. There's nothing we could do. 128 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 5: Let's obey to the authorities. And then that was my part, 129 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 5: which was saying that we need to make God before man. 130 00:07:50,760 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 5: And this is the tradition of the church and the 131 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 5: time for testing the church in Peru has arrived and 132 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 5: we must do what we were taught to. We must 133 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 5: speak up, We must open our mouth and present the 134 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 5: whole truth, the whole counsel of the Lord. And we 135 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 5: decided to go ahead and purposely, openly, peacefully bring the law. 136 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 5: And obviously there was someone that had to take the 137 00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 5: first step. 138 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 2: So that was me. 139 00:08:18,280 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 5: So I was introduced to different interviews on National TV, 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 5: Live TV and where they would place me next to 141 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 5: the president of the Transactional Community in Peru, and they 142 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 5: would bring a woman disguised as a man. You know, 143 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 5: it even had cross ormans injected in her that it 144 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 5: made him look like a man. He even had beer, 145 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 5: and the journalists would start saying, Christian, what do you 146 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 5: have to tell to Sir Michael, the president of the 147 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 5: transactual Community. So I would start the interview saying thanks 148 00:08:48,000 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 5: for the interview, good evening, ma'am, and then the guy 149 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: would go to Christy and be like, I'm not a man, 150 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 5: I'm a guy, and I said, and he would threaten 151 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,120 Speaker 5: me saying you must take back your words or I 152 00:09:01,120 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 5: will sue you. And now that is in place of 153 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 5: non discrimination against gender identity. You will be sent to prison, 154 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 5: so take back your words now. And I said I cannot, 155 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,400 Speaker 5: and the journalists looked at me and said, why can't you? 156 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 2: Because I am a Christian? What does it have to 157 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 2: do with anything. 158 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 5: I cannot pretend not to know what everybody knows. It 159 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:30,320 Speaker 5: cannot repeat a lie witness to the truth. I cannot 160 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,600 Speaker 5: commit moral suicide in the night my law of national TV. 161 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 5: I plead guilty of breaking this unjust law, and this 162 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 5: is my ID number. Type it in and Sue me, 163 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 5: I would gladly go to prison rather than reject the truth. 164 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 5: I will not reject the truth. So that created a 165 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 5: spark because suddenly everyone of social networks, especially Twitter, where 166 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,880 Speaker 5: saying I plead guilty too. 167 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:01,000 Speaker 2: Sue me as well, met the prison. 168 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:08,680 Speaker 5: Too, and everybody broke the law constantly and massively, and 169 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 5: we did the rallies nobody. We turned the law obsolete 170 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 5: and Congress had to repeal the law while we were 171 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 5: able to rebuild nine laws. But it wasn't easy. We 172 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 5: had to ouse the Education Minister. Then the Prime Minister 173 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: came in and said we're not going to back down. 174 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 5: So then we didn't want it to end that way, 175 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 5: but we had to oust the Prime Minister as well. 176 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:33,760 Speaker 5: Then the President said came in and he said, we 177 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:36,079 Speaker 5: will talk back down. 178 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,040 Speaker 2: We will enforce this. 179 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:38,960 Speaker 5: And then we said, well it's time to pitch the 180 00:10:39,000 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 5: president and we did so. 181 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 2: We preached the president. 182 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 5: Because authority comes with the word author as its prefix. 183 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 2: That's the root of the world. 184 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:53,080 Speaker 5: Authority, the highest authority of family and life, is the 185 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:56,480 Speaker 5: author of life and family. It's not man, it's got 186 00:10:56,600 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 5: himself and that has been established in nature. Sure, so 187 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:06,120 Speaker 5: no lo the ghost against nature revealed, Nature reveal moral. 188 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: Common sense can be legitimate. 189 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 1: So so let me just jump in here and say 190 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,679 Speaker 1: something we got like thirty seconds here. You branded it brilliantly. 191 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 1: Don't mess with our kids. Yes, and but you built 192 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:25,520 Speaker 1: a coalition in order to do this. So Christian activism 193 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: is what is sustaining what Wilberforce called a sustained pattern 194 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 1: of public persuasion. Elected officials saw that we get in 195 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: trouble because you worked with Catholics and you worked with 196 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: all people, isn't that correct? You you built a large coalition. 197 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 5: Because that coalition was like, all right, guys, we are 198 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 5: calling in summoning the Church of Christ. Not necessarily that 199 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 5: the Church that is registered on human archives. I'm talking 200 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 5: the Church of Christ that is one that has one 201 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 5: savior and that will be He's the will of his 202 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: Lord at all times throughout history. 203 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: So the one Church is I mean, one Savior, one Lord. 204 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,480 Speaker 4: All hold it roll that right. 205 00:12:08,480 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: The reason I got to do this is I'm putting 206 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,679 Speaker 1: this on real America's voice, and I have to do 207 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: a quick break for for Rob's sake. But we're going 208 00:12:16,080 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: to come right back, and I want you to hear 209 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: this because this is how you mobilize a movement that 210 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: has electoral impact and cultural impact at the same time. 211 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 212 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 1: All right, We're back with Christian Eurolsas and he is 213 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 1: the leader of the movement. Don't mess with our kids 214 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: that kicked soorrows out of Peru and overturned. I just 215 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: found out a couple of electoral officials. 216 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 4: You guys mobilize. 217 00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:55,640 Speaker 1: And the point that I want to get to now 218 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:59,319 Speaker 1: is it's one thing to have art and evangelicals making 219 00:12:59,360 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: a statement. To get what you had to get, you 220 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: had to build a coalition of co belligerence. So who 221 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: made up the angry populist movement that was in public display? 222 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: And I guess what, not going to work or shutting 223 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: down the country. You guys must have done something that 224 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: let them know you're doing more than just a little 225 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: paid for a demonstration, right. 226 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 2: Oh, you guys. 227 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:26,840 Speaker 5: Of course, first of all, I challenged the church to 228 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 5: return to Christ, to return to the truths. 229 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 2: Right. 230 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 5: But I think so not just by speaking, but by 231 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 5: putting myself on the line and saying, look, if I 232 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 5: go to prison, this is going to be no difference 233 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 5: with you guys. You guys are going to be next. 234 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 5: So we better team up right now. This is the 235 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:46,280 Speaker 5: time to set an example. And of course we found resistance. 236 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,040 Speaker 5: We found the government and the establishment. We found their 237 00:13:50,080 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 5: heart hardened, they were stubborn, and we knew what we 238 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:56,560 Speaker 5: had to do. We had to fight for the truth 239 00:13:56,640 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 5: because we were fighting for our children's innocence and the hearts. 240 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 5: I mean, what happened in England that so many children 241 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 5: were mutilated, healthy organs of the body, irreversible situation, and 242 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 5: in the school they were indoctrinating them with pure deceit 243 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 5: and lies. There is someone that has to be responsible 244 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 5: for this, and I wouldn't blame the politicians in the 245 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 5: first place. I think the first responsible institution is the church, 246 00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 5: because they are the witness the truth, and the judges 247 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 5: of the Lord are truthful and righteous at once altogether. 248 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:36,400 Speaker 5: So when there's a fire, you call the firefighter. When 249 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 5: there's a robbery, you call the police. But who do 250 00:14:38,960 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 5: you someone when the truth falls down on the public square. 251 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 2: That's the church. 252 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 5: It's a church duty to do so. So we decided 253 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 5: to rally. We decided to speak up, and we said 254 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 5: we're not backing down. We're going to remove and repeal 255 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: all of these laws because these laws are unjust and 256 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 5: they aid a danger for our children. We want our 257 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 5: children to grow peacefully, naturally according to the values and 258 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 5: principles of their families. We don't want our kids to 259 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:16,360 Speaker 5: be confused. So we said clearly, don't mess with our kids, 260 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 5: and by doing so, the government and culture start realizing. 261 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 2: There was no way to negotiate this. 262 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 5: There was no way to intimidate us, because every threat 263 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 5: they would send at us, like I said, well stend 264 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 5: it to prison, We're like, hurry up, do so now 265 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 5: we're not backing down. That's not intimidating. We'll do everything 266 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 5: it takes for our children because love is what drives 267 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: us to defender children. There's no greater force and love. 268 00:15:45,040 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 5: We're willing to relinquish our lives for their sake, for 269 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 5: the truth's sake, for our children. That was our duty, 270 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: our god or day duty to do so. 271 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: So that's but the part I want to jump in 272 00:15:55,720 --> 00:16:00,800 Speaker 1: on is the adversary you're dealing with was working through academia, 273 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: through the teachers as they do in the United States, teachers' unions, 274 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: the curriculum, the way in which the radicalized teachers would 275 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: endorse at a young age this year, you know, if 276 00:16:10,240 --> 00:16:13,880 Speaker 1: you're pursuing who you are genderwise, and and then then 277 00:16:13,920 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 1: you have the politicians who ride the crest of populist 278 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: depravity if there's no conscience, if there's no church in 279 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: the culture, and they get elected and they get power. 280 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 1: So you have the education mountain the way I do it, 281 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:30,320 Speaker 1: and you have the political mountain. Then you have the 282 00:16:30,440 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: media and the pocket of the politicians who are out, 283 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: you know, vilifying. But if you have any freedom of speech, 284 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: you also have the ability to get your side out, 285 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: which you were able to do live on TV by 286 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: being defiant. Now then we find out that American billionaires 287 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 1: are funding an ideologic you know, what we call it 288 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: poisoning of nations, from European mass mic immigration to the 289 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 1: transgender ideology. There actually is a demonic network of well 290 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: funded ideologues who are trying to collapse Western civilization. Don't 291 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: realize you're doing the devil's business. But how did this 292 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: end up? 293 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:11,359 Speaker 4: How did you end up? 294 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,679 Speaker 1: What did you expose regarding funding that was behind the 295 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 1: transgender movement. 296 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 5: Well, we did a case study as well, you know, 297 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,879 Speaker 5: portrayed and explaining to the people that a lot of 298 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:27,239 Speaker 5: these angeles were being funded by open society, Soros and 299 00:17:27,280 --> 00:17:33,159 Speaker 5: other progressive movements that wanted to enforce people to be 300 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,240 Speaker 5: like them, like the way they think. 301 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 2: Right. 302 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 5: So we were like, these angels are not elected, they 303 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 5: paid no taxes, and they're not accountable to nationals. So 304 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,360 Speaker 5: this is a new colonization strategy. So we call it 305 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 5: an ideological colonization. So that made Peruvians, as a country 306 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 5: that was freed from the colony of Spain, to realize 307 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,240 Speaker 5: we're fighting for our sovereignty and our freedom as well. 308 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 5: So we frame it in such a way that whenever 309 00:18:05,480 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 5: they wanted to sound smart like academia, we clearly said 310 00:18:10,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 5: it was a secular superstition. It was a secular dogma, 311 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:18,120 Speaker 5: and it was plainly an ideology that had no connection 312 00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 5: with truth or facts or with science. It was just 313 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 5: a superstitious dogma and we needed to vanquish this because 314 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,879 Speaker 5: it had no academic ground. And we're like, no, we 315 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 5: have academic around. No you don't, because there's no way 316 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 5: to prove scientifically, or you're saying there's no change of sets. 317 00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:42,280 Speaker 5: You just need one hair, one drop of blood, b 318 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,160 Speaker 5: an a test and it will always show the real sex. 319 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 5: Even when you die. Your bones are masculine or feminine. 320 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:53,080 Speaker 5: They're either male or female. And we will battle by 321 00:18:53,119 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 5: explaining anthropologically, scientifically everything you guys stayed. 322 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 2: Is a superstition docma. 323 00:19:01,080 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 5: It's a secular dopma that has no connection at all 324 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 5: with academia. Well, so we portray them as the ones 325 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 5: that were spreading superstitions, and we were founding like the 326 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 5: intelligent one right on TV, and we're like, we cannot 327 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,840 Speaker 5: be intimidated. But something that is nonsense, I have no 328 00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:22,880 Speaker 5: connection with academia is pualized and he's trying to app all. 329 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 2: Come, I love it. 330 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 4: So here's the genius of what you did. 331 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:31,880 Speaker 1: You took the idea that they're you're being colonized, ideological colonization, 332 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:34,959 Speaker 1: so that even if somebody doesn't share, let's say, your 333 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:38,200 Speaker 1: passion for the Bible as the inspired word of God, 334 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,600 Speaker 1: they go, yeah, you know what, You're right. These guys 335 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:44,320 Speaker 1: are coming inngos and you started circling to the enemies. 336 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: Were not accountable to anyone. They don't pay taxes, they're 337 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:51,040 Speaker 1: just they're funded by other countries to invade our country 338 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: with their ideology. 339 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 4: Then you take the. 340 00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:58,720 Speaker 1: Supposed embarrassment of Christians not able to answer the transgender issue. 341 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: It's confusing and and it's not confusing. It's a false scholasticism. 342 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: It's a spirit as a matter of fact, it's secular dogma. 343 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: It's secular superstition. You have to actually believe nonsense to 344 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: believe that here's the science. So you literally instead of 345 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 1: resorting to which we could all do as believers. I 346 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: was one time in a when homosexual ib was being 347 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: legalized in the United States. I was in one of 348 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 1: the early legal debates with it, and I remember watching 349 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: Christians quoting the Bible and how ineffective it was in 350 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: the Legislative Assembly in Rhode Island because they would just 351 00:20:33,920 --> 00:20:36,280 Speaker 1: smile and say, will you understand that this is a 352 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,440 Speaker 1: political and not a religious organization. So what we had 353 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:42,480 Speaker 1: to do is we had to reframe our argument based 354 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,960 Speaker 1: upon what doctors were saying was damaging for families and 355 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: for children in this social experiment of gay marriage. And 356 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:54,480 Speaker 1: we stalled it because we used arguments that would carry 357 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: the public opinion. 358 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 4: And so that's what you do. 359 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: You find out how to frame the debate so that 360 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: it's on terms that can sway the public mind. 361 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 4: Am I correcting that? 362 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 2: Yes? Of course. 363 00:21:06,440 --> 00:21:09,919 Speaker 5: And you know I would illustrate this by bringing a 364 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 5: biology book with me and a Bible, and I would 365 00:21:13,680 --> 00:21:16,200 Speaker 5: go and say, first we need to conquer them to 366 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 5: reason again. They must reconcile their mind with facts and 367 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:23,640 Speaker 5: science so that they can understand the word of God, 368 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 5: because they are so far captive into superstition. That is 369 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,959 Speaker 5: like going back in time. We need to convince them 370 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 5: first with reason, science, pure facts, so they can understand 371 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:38,480 Speaker 5: then not just facts, but the word of God. 372 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: That okay, okay, so they don't I love that. So 373 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:45,880 Speaker 1: now Sorows ends up writing a public document. I mean, 374 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: you know he was frustrated because he actually printed a 375 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:51,480 Speaker 1: rebuke to the NGOs because they're wasting his money. 376 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 4: Is that true? 377 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, And he said, I'm not giving no more money 378 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: because in more than a decade in Peru you have 379 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:04,479 Speaker 5: advanced nothing because never approve amortion of any kind, not 380 00:22:04,520 --> 00:22:08,880 Speaker 5: even a civil union, much less gay marriage or gay adoption. 381 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 5: Everything that had the word gender was you know, completely 382 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:18,520 Speaker 5: repealed from our judicial system. We placed the terms male 383 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 5: and female and eraised gender from all of our legislation, right, 384 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: so that way they couldn't do anything because their magic, 385 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:29,760 Speaker 5: or they're the way they manipulate. 386 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 2: Countries is through the terms. Because terms introduce concepts. 387 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,600 Speaker 5: That's why the Lord says he's the word, because a 388 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 5: word describes reality, truth, but a term describes a constant. 389 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 5: So we wanted our legislation to have words truth that 390 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: can be verified, like male and female, not terms that 391 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,720 Speaker 5: needs for. 392 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 2: You to be convinced of a doctma to begin with it. 393 00:22:57,520 --> 00:23:01,159 Speaker 1: Right, I'm going to be interested Christian in having a 394 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 1: conversation with you when we get together. You'll be speaking 395 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,920 Speaker 1: at one of our conferences. And the thing I want 396 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 1: you to think about before we get together, given the 397 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: unique moment that we're in the United States, I mean, they're, 398 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: like I said, Axelrod is now openly storming and fuming 399 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: about Christian nationalism because there's so many Christians that are 400 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: involved with government. We can't do it now, but we 401 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: have to talk to you about if you were in 402 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: the United States having to adapt a strategy as a 403 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:35,240 Speaker 1: political scientist and a Christian and a sociologist in a sense, 404 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: where are the places we can go? And just out 405 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: of curiosity, do you believe don't Mess with our kids? 406 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,480 Speaker 1: Because the trans movement is really suffering credibility right now. 407 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: We have like seven out of eight incidents that have 408 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: all been violence related to including the assassination of Charlie Kirk. 409 00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I'm curious do you think that Don't Mess with Our 410 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: Kids is still a viable mobilizing movement in the United States? 411 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 5: Of course, because the truth bearer will always conquer, because 412 00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 5: we don't fight on our own arguments. We just explain 413 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 5: what has been established and what can be proven scientifically, 414 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 5: by reason and by common sense and morality. So I'm 415 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 5: certain that the truth and the success that we achieved 416 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:26,640 Speaker 5: in bru can be achieved anywhere in the world because 417 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 5: there's only one truth and we're all fighting the same line, 418 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 5: so we need to adapt it accordingly. But one of 419 00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 5: the things that made us really successful is that we 420 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 5: were not just very courageous. We went the extra mile. 421 00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:45,680 Speaker 5: And that's what I appreciate of Jenny Donnolly. She did 422 00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 5: not just rally done that with our kids in the 423 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 5: safe zones. She actually went and conquered. She went to 424 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 5: Seattle and displayed the reaction of our enemies. She went 425 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,159 Speaker 5: to Los Angeles and was able to prove that the 426 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 5: government would not give us permission to rally. 427 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,479 Speaker 2: So we need to do those things. We need to 428 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 2: go in challenge. 429 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 5: We need to go and challenge at every university possible. 430 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 2: We need to go to the democratic area. I mean, 431 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:16,679 Speaker 2: look at a possible. 432 00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,000 Speaker 5: Paul he would stand up outside of the temple of 433 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,959 Speaker 5: our tennis and he did not fear whatsoever. We need 434 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 5: to do the same. That's the same strategy. We need 435 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 5: to stand right in Harvard University. We need to scratch 436 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 5: where it itches right there, and we need to make 437 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 5: this notable, noticeable, and we will win. We just need 438 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 5: great people to be willing to do so. The truth 439 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 5: will prevail. Truth does not fear a challenge. Our Lord 440 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 5: is the truth. 441 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: I love that question. Well, we're out of time. That 442 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: is one of the limitations we have. But we're going 443 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:55,120 Speaker 1: to be talking to you again. And yeah, you mentioned 444 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: Jenny Donnelly and Pastor Russell Johnson, and we had some 445 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: career leaders. 446 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:01,359 Speaker 4: That are on the front. 447 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're and you're going to be at a conference 448 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: with all of them. So we look forward to seeing you. 449 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 1: We have to end here and I gotta I gotta 450 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,440 Speaker 1: wrap it up and going to the next segment. We're 451 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna have you on RAB Real America's Voice. Everybody can 452 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: get more for me. By the way, how do they 453 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 1: keep in touch with you? What do they do to 454 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: get in to connect with you? 455 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, oh did can't either follow Mess with her Kids, 456 00:26:22,960 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 5: which is the movement website, or my name Christian Process. 457 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 5: I'm on Facebook and Twitter, so feel free to follow. 458 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 5: I'm sure when when we get there, we're going to 459 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 5: make some noise. 460 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm sure we willk you, We'll get you, We'll get 461 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:40,160 Speaker 1: the message out. God bless you, brother, see you soon. 462 00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:41,919 Speaker 2: I blessed. 463 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what it's gonna take. 464 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 3: Brave voices, I mean, coming on the heels of Charlie 465 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 3: Kirk's memorial service as somebody who took the fight right 466 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,720 Speaker 3: to those universities. He said, Harvard at the end made 467 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: me think of Charlie, and it's going to take more 468 00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:02,639 Speaker 3: Christians standing boldly. Reminds me of the Vice President saying, 469 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 3: and I've talked more about Jesus in these last couple 470 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 3: of weeks since Charlie's service. But it's boldness, Lance, you know, 471 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 3: it's courage, reminds you of our Courage tour. That Jenny 472 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 3: was on the Courage tour with us. So I'm excited 473 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: to see what's next, what's next for the chapter in America, 474 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 3: And if it's possible in Peru, it's possible in America. 475 00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know it doesn't even have to be 476 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: national because our states are such that we could actually 477 00:27:27,800 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: get a movement going and begin to roll back this 478 00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 1: gender ideological colonization from Soros in states and create a 479 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: national movement. Boy, I've got an interesting subject to go 480 00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:55,800 Speaker 1: into now. Those who have been watching the broadcast on 481 00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,679 Speaker 1: RAV we just got done doing a discussion with Christian 482 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:04,919 Speaker 1: about how, as a Christian activist he mobilized Peru in 483 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 1: order to kick George Sorows out and meet the false 484 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: science of gender ideology on the grounds of real science, 485 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: and instead of just sound like a Bible thumper, they 486 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: went at it smart and said, you're the ones that 487 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:27,719 Speaker 1: are creating a fiction regarding men and women. And then 488 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: he went ahead to disprove it and half a dozen 489 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: ways that the gender is set. Your bones when you're 490 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,360 Speaker 1: in the graves can still be tested twenty years later 491 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: to see if you're a male or female. The DNA, 492 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,640 Speaker 1: your Hairstrand skin sample, saliva tells us whether you're a 493 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:46,680 Speaker 1: male or female. The chromosome record is irrefutable, but that's 494 00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 1: beyond the point. The point is that we have a 495 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: moment now where we have to be able to frame 496 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 1: the arguments for why we believe what we believe in 497 00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,800 Speaker 1: a way that meets the left head on. Now, there's 498 00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: some two things have happened in the last seven days 499 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,760 Speaker 1: ten days that I want to put together. The United 500 00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,800 Speaker 1: Nations meeting with Donald Trump and the leaders of all 501 00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: these nations, and the Charlie Kirk memorial. It was Axelrod, 502 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: who is a major voice in the think tank of 503 00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:23,840 Speaker 1: the Democrat and progressive community, and he's the one who 504 00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 1: said he's freaked out if that was you know, seventy 505 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 1: to one hundred thousand then showed up for a funeral. 506 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: They represent millions like them. And now Christian nationalism, all 507 00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 1: that dangerous resurgence of the word Christian nationalists. Now, whether 508 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 1: I use the word or you use the word, doesn't matter. 509 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: They're going to try to label it, and you know what, 510 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,760 Speaker 1: they're going to throw it at you. You might as well 511 00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: figure out that right now. They don't know what they 512 00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:50,640 Speaker 1: mean when they say it. If you ask anyone what 513 00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 1: do you mean by Christian nationalists? They can't even define it, 514 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: but they're going to still slander you with it anyway. 515 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: It's like being racist. It doesn't have to have validity. 516 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: They just got to throw it at you till you 517 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:05,840 Speaker 1: peel it off. Now, regarding this this movement of the 518 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: United Nations and what happened with Charlie Kirk, here's what 519 00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: I want to say. In in the in the United Nations, 520 00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: you could see the pontificating of the lead. 521 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 4: I listened to some of the presidents. It's rather painful, 522 00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:19,360 Speaker 4: you know, as. 523 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 1: They're they're obviously orators of their own, you know, countries, 524 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,960 Speaker 1: and they're talking about the dangerous you know what, they're 525 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: basically saying is the United States is a dangerous power 526 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: because like you know, Brazil, Luna, Who's who's a communists 527 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: locked up Bolson narrow, you know, and is as dangerous 528 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: as having Bernie Sanders elected with you know, a stolen election. 529 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:41,600 Speaker 4: So anyway, you got a. 530 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:45,160 Speaker 1: Little over there kind of the you know, pontificating about 531 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 1: the dangers of the United States and the international community 532 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,080 Speaker 1: just messing with other sovereign countries and playing games. I 533 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: suppose we're talking about tariffs and stuff and Trump comes in, 534 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: throws the gauntlet down and says you're escalated and work. 535 00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 4: You tell it propt It doesn't work. 536 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,200 Speaker 1: The un doesn't work, by the way, I mean, your 537 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: problem is you don't have the courage to deal with 538 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 1: mass immigration, which is a leftist ideological colonizing of Europe 539 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:15,400 Speaker 1: to fragment and balkanize it with Muslims. Basically, we eventually 540 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 1: take over a large part of Europe. Right now, I 541 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: think seven out of eight are the major cities in 542 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,720 Speaker 1: London and England rather are already led by Muslim mayors. 543 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: So they've already accomplished, you know, their invasion. And what 544 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: I want to point out to you is these two 545 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,680 Speaker 1: things aren't separate. They speak the two things that are 546 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: happening at the same time. 547 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,440 Speaker 4: In terms of culture. I want you to go to 548 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 4: Psalm two. 549 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm doing this on a Sunday for Real America's Voice, 550 00:31:41,080 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: so we only get a little bit of the Bible 551 00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440 Speaker 1: in here. Don't you think some two says there comes 552 00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 1: a time when the United Nations, the only forum I 553 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: know of that would have the Psalm too, convening when 554 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 1: the nations rage and the people plot a vain thing, 555 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:02,320 Speaker 1: and the presidents and rulers and kings of the earth 556 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: set themselves and take counsel together in a convening and 557 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: a strategic governmental. 558 00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 4: Gathering of global leaders. 559 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 1: And there they're fighting is against the Lord Jesus and 560 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: against any of that. 561 00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 4: He is anointed to represent. 562 00:32:22,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: Him against the Lord and is anointed, and they're saying, 563 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: it's time we broke the tyranny of this this thing 564 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:35,959 Speaker 1: off of us. They're they're blocking our progress in the environment, 565 00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:39,760 Speaker 1: global warming and fighting the cl they're blocking our progress 566 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: in creating a world without walls, where where we're no 567 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,600 Speaker 1: longer going to allow us to be divided by them. 568 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: And they're dangerous rhetoric. You see the uprising is already 569 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: happening in Europe. You're already seeing it, and it's it's 570 00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: it's going to continue to grow because whether it's in 571 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 1: England or whether it's in a Le or whether it's 572 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: in I was gonna say, in London or in Ireland, 573 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 1: what you're seeing is the populist movement is rising up, 574 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: just as it did in the United States, and it's 575 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:18,960 Speaker 1: saying our elected officials are not protecting us. They're globalist whimps. 576 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: And Donald Trump, God bless him for the period of 577 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,960 Speaker 1: time he's here. He is like the only backbone in 578 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: the globe. He lists seven conflicts. He ended, he said, 579 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: what are you guys doing? 580 00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 4: I did it. I'll tell you what. The American the 581 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,160 Speaker 4: United States is strong. 582 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 1: And then they go to say, well, what do you 583 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: recommend if they set him up with questions, They set 584 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: up traps for him like they did with Jesus in 585 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 1: the Bible, and they asked him this in order to 586 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: test him. 587 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 4: In order to lay a trap for him. So they 588 00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 4: say to. 589 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,880 Speaker 1: Him, well, what do you recommend they do when Russia 590 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: flies over their airspace? Trump said, They said, do you 591 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: think they have a right to shoot down any jets 592 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,120 Speaker 1: they come of Russian Trump goes, yeah, shoot him down, 593 00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: laughing because he's congruent. 594 00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 4: He's saying, you're whimps. 595 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: I mean, you're gonna get bullied, and you know you're 596 00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: gonna get bullied and bullied and bullied until you know 597 00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 1: either you fight back. 598 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 4: And you did. But you're going to keep buying Russian oil. 599 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: You're going to keep funding their invasion of Ukraine because 600 00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 1: you lack what it takes to disconnect. Because of the 601 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 1: economic implications and the political fall out in the banking 602 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 1: community doesn't like it. Trump basically is calling him out 603 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:33,400 Speaker 1: and saying, at this moment, the rulers gathering together in 604 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: New York. 605 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,319 Speaker 4: Aren't here at PS two. 606 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,360 Speaker 1: But I'm telling you, you remove the strength of a 607 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 1: Donald Trump from that picture, you keep seeing the strength 608 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:50,839 Speaker 1: of the Charlie Kirk phenomena, which is Christian infused, spiritually 609 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: empowered courage, mobilizing populations to resist the tyranny of the 610 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: bureaucracy that it in bed with Davos and the corporatists 611 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:09,440 Speaker 1: who control the big tech industries and pharmaceuticals and the 612 00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:14,200 Speaker 1: armament industry and all their vested interests. 613 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:15,600 Speaker 4: It's going to be an interesting thing. 614 00:35:15,640 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: So what I want you to catch is Psalm two 615 00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:22,439 Speaker 1: says rulers will take counsel together and they will say, 616 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,399 Speaker 1: we've got to break this. This movement isn't stopping. That's 617 00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. It's going to keep growing. It's going 618 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: to keep growing. And then here's one for all the 619 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,120 Speaker 1: people that fair Christian nationalism. 620 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 4: I'm going to get a little versa. 621 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: Flip your freightwig. The Lord says, I will declare the decree. 622 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,359 Speaker 1: And so the Father is decreed to the son pal 623 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: to us a resurrection psalm. It's the conversation between the 624 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,839 Speaker 1: Father and the son. It's a powerful, interesting psalm. It's 625 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,359 Speaker 1: the trinity and the interaction with the three of them 626 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,920 Speaker 1: on the day Jesus is raised from the dead. And 627 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 1: you know that because Acts thirteen thirty three. If you 628 00:35:54,080 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: do your Bible will tell you some too deals with 629 00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: the resurrection. It's prophetic. David's reaching out of the future 630 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 1: and having a conversation. He says, the Father says, I 631 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:08,239 Speaker 1: will declare the decree. The Lord has said to me. 632 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,839 Speaker 1: Jesus is saying, I will declare the decree. The Lord 633 00:36:10,840 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: has said to me, you are my son today, I 634 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,399 Speaker 1: have begotten you ask of me, and I will give 635 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,000 Speaker 1: you the nations for your inheritance. At the end of 636 00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: the day, Jesus is the ultimate political ruler over all 637 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,400 Speaker 1: the nations. He's coming back to assert that right and 638 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,799 Speaker 1: the world will be what we call the tribulation at 639 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,360 Speaker 1: that time. Just understand the relevance of Bible theology and 640 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: eschatology as it overlaps with circumstances playing out in current events. 641 00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,880 Speaker 1: There's an intersection of convergence, if you will, of the 642 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:49,120 Speaker 1: Bible and news right now convening public assemblies that are 643 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 1: labeling where the problem is. 644 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:53,600 Speaker 4: It's going to start to be a label on the. 645 00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:56,440 Speaker 1: Movement that Jesus has because God's movement is going to 646 00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,600 Speaker 1: get stronger throughout the earth and the thing that provides courage. 647 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,839 Speaker 1: Listen to Viveka the other day doing you know, an 648 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: Ohio vigil for it after Charlie Kirk's death, and he 649 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:09,440 Speaker 1: said he feared that what would happen with the gen 650 00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: Xers is that they would all go mute because of 651 00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: the fear of being killed. But I thought, yeah, gen 652 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: xers might, but not Spafield gen Xers, because God raises 653 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,440 Speaker 1: up bold martyrs. 654 00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:24,040 Speaker 4: When martyrs fall boldly. 655 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,399 Speaker 1: So the new generation is going to start to rise 656 00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: up at least the momentums on him now and natural 657 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: man will break, but Christians will not break. They're getting stronger, 658 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: they're getting more muscular, They're getting more When I say militant, 659 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the church militant, I'm saying onward Christians. 660 00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,760 Speaker 1: So what we're talking about is we are not backing 661 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 1: down from the proxy war. The proxy war, you know, 662 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,799 Speaker 1: the proxy wars. It's when Hesbellah is attacking Israel and 663 00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: Hamas attacking Israel, but really Iran, Iran from the northeast. 664 00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,480 Speaker 1: Iran is funding it and giving their station to the 665 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,520 Speaker 1: Hamas Edgards when the money's coming in from around the 666 00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: world and the globals and all these other people pro 667 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,160 Speaker 1: Palace nine, propousands and the anti Israel. 668 00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 4: What I want you to catch is. 669 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:12,319 Speaker 1: The proxy war means Israel is really fighting Iran through 670 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,160 Speaker 1: the proxies. 671 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 4: Got that. 672 00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,080 Speaker 1: So the culture war with the trans ideology is the 673 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:25,319 Speaker 1: proxy war between Hell and Earth. And it's showing up 674 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: in lawless ice, lawless attacks on ice, and open borders 675 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:37,960 Speaker 1: and the and the trans movement, and in every legalized 676 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: form of depramity. You have the proxy war that is 677 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,880 Speaker 1: in culture. It's heaven and hell colliding. The problem is 678 00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 1: the church that is in militant wants his prays about it, 679 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 1: comments about it, but doesn't do anything. Now the Charlie 680 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,720 Speaker 1: Kirks come along and many, as you saw in ninety 681 00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,839 Speaker 1: thousand there and a one hundred million others watching. There's 682 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 1: and oh no, no, we're getting more convinced than ever 683 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: that abortion is actually an issue actually as a moral 684 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:08,799 Speaker 1: there's a line there in the sand, and there's a 685 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:11,640 Speaker 1: moral issue about the invasion of your country, and there's 686 00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:16,160 Speaker 1: a moral issue about mutilating the genitals of children, and 687 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: there's a moral issue about you teachers that are brainwashing 688 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: our children, alienateding from the parents. And there's a moral 689 00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,879 Speaker 1: issue about uncontrolled debt and slavery that comes out of that. 690 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: So now the Christians are beginning to wake up. And 691 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying all this for a reason, because the Church 692 00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:36,000 Speaker 1: militant is the church that is now engaging in the proxy. 693 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 4: War on the front lines by marshaling. 694 00:39:37,800 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: Argument, influence the coalition building and as they did in Peru, 695 00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: they mobilize a movement that says, don't mess with our kids, 696 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 1: and they made it unpopular for an elected official to 697 00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:52,759 Speaker 1: fight the will of the populace when it comes to 698 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:57,759 Speaker 1: their children and sorrows. Quit Peru pull this money out 699 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,440 Speaker 1: and said, I can't beat this thing. And that's the 700 00:40:00,480 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: reason why I want to talk about the return of 701 00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: the Lion. We're going to go into that in a second. 702 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: Jesus is coming back, and a movement precedes him. 703 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 4: We'll be right back. 704 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,960 Speaker 1: And he brought Abraham and he showed him the borders 705 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: and boundaries and the real estate of his descendence, Israel. 706 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: And I'm saying that because Israel is a covenant concept 707 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 1: with Almighty God. 708 00:40:34,920 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 4: The book sixty six books written. 709 00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:42,560 Speaker 1: By all Jews. By the way, the apostles all Jews. 710 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:46,719 Speaker 1: Saint Peter wasn't Catholic. He was a Messianic Jew. Hey, 711 00:40:46,719 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: here's a real weird one. He was not only a 712 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,600 Speaker 1: Messianic Jew, he was a Pentecostal Messianic Jew from the 713 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:52,920 Speaker 1: upper room with Crayden tongues. 714 00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:55,640 Speaker 4: Don't forget my mother. One day I said, mount she goes. 715 00:40:56,880 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: She was upset about J's Catholic and I was charismatic Christian. 716 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 1: And she and I said to her said, mom, Mary 717 00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: was in the upper room. The Bible says Mary and 718 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: Old his brethren were there when the Holy Spirit fell. 719 00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:10,560 Speaker 1: Mary was in Catholic She was a Jewish woman who's 720 00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,840 Speaker 1: spoke in tongues. And I never get my mother's response. 721 00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,800 Speaker 1: Stopped talking against the Virgin Mary. See the religious condigtion. 722 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,200 Speaker 1: I was talking against the Virgin Mary. 723 00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:21,280 Speaker 4: I wasn't. I'll try to described who Mary was anyway. 724 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: The anti Israel thing is people forget God's covenant with 725 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: the land of Israel. Starts with Abraham before they had 726 00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,319 Speaker 1: any boundaries, before they had any land. Then God said, 727 00:41:30,360 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 1: go to the Canaanite, the Jebu side. They hit tight 728 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:37,359 Speaker 1: all of these barbarica, you know people, and go out, dispossess, 729 00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: occupy that little piece of real estate. That's where your 730 00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:43,759 Speaker 1: people are going to be. And that's where the Messiah 731 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,279 Speaker 1: is going to come and die for the nations. And 732 00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: then when the Lord returns, he's returning where not returning 733 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: to Baltimore's not returning to you know, Rowan Old Virginia. 734 00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,760 Speaker 4: He's returning to Mount Zion, the Mount of Olives. 735 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,440 Speaker 1: Rather, he's coming down to the Mount of Olives and 736 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:01,680 Speaker 1: the Mount of olives, according to Zecho is where he ascended. 737 00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:03,719 Speaker 4: And how could this guy know five. 738 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 1: Hundred and forty years before Jesus even existed, this is 739 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,760 Speaker 1: the location the GPS coords for where the Messiah will return. 740 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 4: Evidently, prophetically he knew where it. 741 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:15,680 Speaker 1: Is would return because it's the exact location where the 742 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:19,440 Speaker 1: Bible says he ascended. Now, something the Bible says that 743 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,360 Speaker 1: bothers me, and it bothers me about the United States, 744 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,560 Speaker 1: in which may a lot of my friends say, well, 745 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,320 Speaker 1: how come the United States doesn't mention in prophecy? 746 00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 4: You got those of the nations? 747 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 1: You know, Egypt is there, Ethiopia is there, you got 748 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 1: It's funny, they're all Milibria. The nations are still in 749 00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,800 Speaker 1: the Bible are mentioned that are current. 750 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,360 Speaker 4: Where's the United States? 751 00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,439 Speaker 1: Well, my only fear is the United States turns its 752 00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:43,760 Speaker 1: back on the on the providential hand of the mercy 753 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,040 Speaker 1: of God that has us teetering on this thirty four 754 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:50,560 Speaker 1: trillion dollar air bubble of debt. It can go down 755 00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,719 Speaker 1: like that global reset. And where's the United States in. 756 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,839 Speaker 4: This hostile world that hates us? 757 00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: We don't maintain economic supremacy and military power? My friend, 758 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,879 Speaker 1: America will have its own tribulation like you've ever seen. 759 00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you this, and I don't have time 760 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 1: in seven minutes to make the full apologetic, but I'm 761 00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:11,879 Speaker 1: just going to throw it out there, and. 762 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,400 Speaker 4: You Christians know what I'm saying. 763 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,920 Speaker 1: God help us if we take the six seven million 764 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Jews that are over there in Israel that God has 765 00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:24,400 Speaker 1: a covenant with to bring them back to Him, and 766 00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: we cut them off and lead them at the mercy 767 00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,920 Speaker 1: of their enemies when it was within our power to 768 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: help them. That's called cutting your lifeline as far as 769 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 1: I'm concerned, because the mercy of God is upon us 770 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 1: in large part because we have been and properly aligned 771 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: with God's covenant purposes for Israel. I'm not talking about 772 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 1: endorsing their every political decision they make. 773 00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 4: I'm talking about. 774 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: The disposition you have towards Israel as a believer, and 775 00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,480 Speaker 1: so eventually all the nations are going to turn against, 776 00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:02,520 Speaker 1: going to turn against. Let's want you to go look 777 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,479 Speaker 1: at this for instance, Zekarad twelve. If you got a Bible, 778 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:08,680 Speaker 1: Zacharai twelve, this is a fear this is gonna happen. 779 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: I mean, it's in the Bible. That's why I wrote 780 00:44:10,280 --> 00:44:12,120 Speaker 1: it all in this book. You get a little bit 781 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: of my apologetic here Zechariah, Chapter twelve. 782 00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 4: Verse three, behold, verse two. 783 00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:23,040 Speaker 1: Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of drunkenness, a 784 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:27,880 Speaker 1: cup of trembling to all the surrounding peoples when they 785 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:33,000 Speaker 1: lay siege against Judah and Jerusalem. And it shall happen 786 00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,399 Speaker 1: in that day that I will make Jerusalem a very 787 00:44:36,440 --> 00:44:39,640 Speaker 1: heavy stone for all peoples. All who would heave it 788 00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: away will surely be cut in pieces. Though all the 789 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: nations of the earth will be gathered against us. So 790 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,680 Speaker 1: God basically says, all the nations are going to turn 791 00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:51,560 Speaker 1: in unity against Israel. Well, you're going to have the 792 00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:54,479 Speaker 1: rise of this figure called the Antichrist. I just showed 793 00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:57,759 Speaker 1: you in Psalm two, where the nations are gathered together 794 00:44:57,800 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: and they want to break the yoke of this Judeo 795 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: Christian alignment. Whatever the Lord has anointed represents, which I 796 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: believe is going to be the movement of God that 797 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:10,160 Speaker 1: is still rising in the earth, it'll be pushed back 798 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: on vigorously by the elites, the progressive powers that see 799 00:45:14,440 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: it as a threat. 800 00:45:16,239 --> 00:45:18,320 Speaker 4: Then the Bible says, here, every. 801 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,839 Speaker 1: Nation is going to be coming against Jerusalem, and it's 802 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: going to be a cup of trembling and a burdensome 803 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: stone when they do that. And then it says in 804 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 1: verse nine, it shall be in that day that I 805 00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem. 806 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,560 Speaker 1: I will pour out on the House of David, on 807 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and supplication, 808 00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: and they will look upon me, who may pierced. 809 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 4: Oh, that's an interesting statement. 810 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,520 Speaker 1: Five hundred and forty years before Roman Crucifixion shows up. 811 00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: The prophet reaches out to a metaphor and says, they're 812 00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: going to look on me me Yahweh, look upon God, 813 00:45:54,080 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: when were you pierced on the cross? Jesus, the son 814 00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: of the Living God, was pierced. 815 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:02,360 Speaker 4: You see this. 816 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: These are the evidences of the inspiration of scripture. They 817 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:10,960 Speaker 1: will look upon me, God's talking Jesus, whom they pierced, 818 00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: and they will mourn for him as one mourns for 819 00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:17,239 Speaker 1: his only son, his firstborn son, and grieve for me 820 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: as a first born. What does it mean in that 821 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: day there should be great mourning in Jerusalem. And what 822 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:29,239 Speaker 1: it's speaking of is that Israel shall have a veil 823 00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: opened up. I may shall see when all else forsake them, 824 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,760 Speaker 1: the faithfulness of the Christian people that stood with Israel, 825 00:46:38,120 --> 00:46:41,800 Speaker 1: the faithfulness of the Jewish people with no friends left, 826 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:46,960 Speaker 1: and they begin to look to the Messiah Yeshua, and 827 00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 1: the Lord himself will fight for them in that day. 828 00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,840 Speaker 4: So let's go on. I'm just showing you what the bibles. 829 00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:56,920 Speaker 1: What the Bible says, the Lord says, all the nations 830 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,200 Speaker 1: will come against Jerusalem. I'm assuming the United States be 831 00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: listed in all those nations, which might explain why we're 832 00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: nowhere in the prophecies of the Last Day's nations. And 833 00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 1: I pray it isn't. When JD vans as president, Lord 834 00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:10,200 Speaker 1: help us. 835 00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,520 Speaker 4: We're not that far. 836 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: I don't really believe we're that far from these things. 837 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:16,920 Speaker 1: I'm not saying JD will turn his back, but listen, 838 00:47:16,920 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: he just said he got the long applause there at 839 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk memory. 840 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,279 Speaker 4: You know what that tells me. 841 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,560 Speaker 1: He's the heir apparent of the affection of the turning 842 00:47:25,640 --> 00:47:27,799 Speaker 1: point under thirty crowd will be with JD. 843 00:47:27,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 4: He'll be their candidate. 844 00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:33,759 Speaker 1: However, he said, I've talked more about Jesus on everything 845 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:35,640 Speaker 1: in my life in the last two weeks. Well, he's 846 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: surrounded by all the emotional power of Charlie Kirk's testimony. 847 00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:42,000 Speaker 1: I like to hear somebody that's talking about Jesus when 848 00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 1: it's not popular. 849 00:47:44,719 --> 00:47:45,879 Speaker 4: See you again next week.