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Speaker 1: Hey there, folks. It is Wednesday, January twenty first, and

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Speaker 1: a developing story while you were sleeping overnight. Air Force

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Speaker 1: one forced to turn around mid flight because of an

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Speaker 1: issue with the plane. And with that, welcome to this

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Speaker 1: episode of Amy and TJ.

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Speaker 2: Robes.

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Speaker 1: This happened late last night. I was up late enough

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Speaker 1: and saw it happening late. You had gone to bed

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Speaker 1: a little early. But it's scary anytime you hear that

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Speaker 1: there is an issue with any plane, the one carrying

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Speaker 1: the president certainly sets off some alarm belts.

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Speaker 2: That's right.

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Speaker 3: I mean you can say it was, oh, a minor

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Speaker 3: electrical issue, but I would feel like any electrical issue

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Speaker 3: you can call it minor, sounds pretty important to me

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Speaker 3: when it comes to flying a plane, and certainly flying

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Speaker 3: a plane with the President of the United States.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, tell, this was.

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Speaker 1: Not a This wasn't an I immediately, I mean it

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Speaker 1: took less than fifteen seconds when I saw this story

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Speaker 1: that I immediately thought about Harrison Ford in Air Force.

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Speaker 2: One, right, like, what's going on the plane?

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Speaker 1: There's an emergency. But so they didn't use the word emergency.

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Speaker 1: We should say that first and foremost. But yes, their

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Speaker 1: term in quotes is minor electrical issue with Air Force.

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Speaker 1: One will tell you in a lot of you all

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Speaker 1: know as we are recording this, actually the flight is

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Speaker 1: still in the air. The president is running a little behind.

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Speaker 1: He's supposed to be at the World Economic Forum in Dabbles, Switzerland.

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Speaker 1: That's where he was headed. But Robes he took off.

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Speaker 1: The flight took off at about nine to forty last night,

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Speaker 1: and it was back in the United States not too

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Speaker 1: long after.

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Speaker 3: Yes, the minor electrical issue happened thirty to forty five

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Speaker 3: minutes into the flight.

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Speaker 2: Reporters said that the lights flashed off.

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Speaker 3: That's got to be a scary moment at any point

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Speaker 3: when you're on a plane, and so they said the

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Speaker 3: decision was made out of an abundance of caution to

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Speaker 3: turn the plane around. They landed in Maryland, I believe

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Speaker 3: at eleven and think about that. Then they had to

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Speaker 3: switch planes, actually get on a smaller plane that's typically

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Speaker 3: used for domestic flights. But this is a seven and

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Speaker 3: a half hour flight, so it looks like they took

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Speaker 3: back off around midnight. That would put him in Davos

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Speaker 3: around seven thirty am Eastern time. But wasn't he supposed

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Speaker 3: to give a speech at eight thirty am Eastern time.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's possible he could shower on the plane,

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Speaker 1: be fresh, walk right off and head to where he's going.

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Speaker 1: But it's possible that's not the case. So as we

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Speaker 1: are recording this, folks, there is uncertainy about exactly how

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Speaker 1: the schedule is going to go for a speech today

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Speaker 1: that is a really really really big deal for what

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Speaker 1: is going on in the world, what he's expected to say,

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Speaker 1: and also ropes who his audience is exactly.

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Speaker 3: Look, any one of us know what it's like to

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Speaker 3: be three hours late when you thought you were going

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Speaker 3: to rie versus when you actually arrived. But were any

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Speaker 3: of us going to give a speech, be delivering a

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Speaker 3: speech of this significance with the world watching? And frankly,

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Speaker 3: we saw him yesterday touting his accomplishments, celebrating his years

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Speaker 3: since he was inaugurated. He looked tired at noon yesterday,

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Speaker 3: and he was talking and working obviously up until the

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Speaker 3: moment he got on that plane. And so to have

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Speaker 3: this disruption and to have what's at stake happening today,

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Speaker 3: that's a tall order.

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Speaker 1: Or is he like the rest of us, the only

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Speaker 1: time you really get good rest is win your own plane,

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Speaker 1: because well he has a little different But I like

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Speaker 1: to of us like what.

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Speaker 2: I sleep terribly on planes?

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Speaker 3: Well, no, the.

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Speaker 1: Idea that you're away from the world a little bit.

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Speaker 1: Nobody's coming by his office constantly, where there's some limits.

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Speaker 1: At least, maybe he gets great sleep. Maybe he'll step

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Speaker 1: give the best speech. Maybe he has an awakening and

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Speaker 1: it's changing his speech. Who knows what this does, but yes,

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Speaker 1: he is three hours behind schedule as we speak. So

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Speaker 1: we'll keep an eye on and see exactly what's going

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Speaker 1: on in dabbles for this all important speech. The plane itself. Now,

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Speaker 1: a lot of reports last night robes I was watching,

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Speaker 1: and we have known. We've never been a part of

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Speaker 1: a White House press corps, but they do this. They're

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Speaker 1: on these planes all the time. They know how this works.

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Speaker 1: A lot of them came out immediately that yeah, this

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Speaker 3: That seems surreal when you think about, first of all,

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Speaker 3: how often they're used, how important the people are who

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Speaker 1: I heard a politician explain it this way, like, we

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Speaker 1: need them. But what president wants to submit a budget

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Speaker 1: request that says, hey, I want a new plane. It's

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Speaker 1: going to cost this many hundreds of millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: And what is the other side of the aisle going

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Speaker 1: to immediately do at him? You're suffering at home, you

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Speaker 1: can't afford this, but the president wants a fancy new

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Speaker 1: plane to fly around it. They actually say that's a

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Speaker 1: part of the calculus here, and that nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: ask for a new one.

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Speaker 2: That makes a lot of sense. It also makes a

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Speaker 2: lot of sense why Trump is the person who.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely would do that give zero ss doesn't care. And

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Speaker 3: you also think maybe perhaps a president on his second term,

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Speaker 3: or wouldn't care as much about asking for that. And

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Speaker 3: it is actually when you look at an incident like

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Speaker 3: talk about, it makes sense. Like a lot of times

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Speaker 3: when we're asked to have American taxpayers pay for something

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Speaker 3: that seems ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: This doesn't seem that ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: It's necessary. Yeah, he should have the nicest car, whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to put on it, the best security. That's

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Speaker 1: not I'm not going to argue with you exactly on

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Speaker 1: any of those points. Now, the ballroom.

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Speaker 2: No, but seriously, that's a really good point.

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Speaker 1: That bring up the ballroom. But no, this needs to

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Speaker 1: be taken care of. He has two planes, they say,

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Speaker 1: robes that serve as air Force one. Mind you, if

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Speaker 1: the President goes to Atlanta Hartsville Jackson Airport today and

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Speaker 1: gets on a Delta flight in first class, that plane

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Speaker 1: becomes air Force one. Whatever plane is carrying the president

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Speaker 1: does become air Force one. But they use two in

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Speaker 1: particular as air Force one. These are custom made Boeing

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Speaker 1: seven forty sevens. You can only imagine robes. How these

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Speaker 1: things have to be retrofitted.

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Speaker 3: What you have to do to security, I can't even

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Speaker 3: get my head around it. What has to be installed

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Speaker 3: one has to be astronomical. And we've heard about how

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Speaker 3: long it takes. And President Trump has expressed frustration about

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Speaker 1: And you mentioned the I mean the security features, the

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Speaker 1: but you also have to consider, Yeah, we have to

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Speaker 1: a a conference room that's in the damn thing. So

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Speaker 1: it takes a while. However, robes these planes were supposed

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Speaker 1: to be replaced two years ago, and now we're being

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Speaker 1: So it's been pushed back and back and delay after delay,

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Speaker 1: and you know what, God forbid. But something like this

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Speaker 1: is a warning. Can you imagine who is going to

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Speaker 1: take the blame if something happens with Airforce? No, obviously

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Speaker 1: they're going probably, but they got everything in place. But

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Speaker 1: how can I get mad at the Boeing's What are

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Speaker 1: they gonna say, we didn't tell y'all to use the

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Speaker 1: thing for sixty years?

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Speaker 2: Yeah that's true.

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Speaker 3: But it's funny because President Trump has recently thrown Boeing

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Speaker 3: under the bus multiple times, saying why is this taking

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Speaker 3: so long. Yeah, exactly where is my plane? Because it,

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Speaker 3: like you said, it was supposed to be here. Now

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Speaker 3: they're saying twenty I saw twenty twenty eight for both

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Speaker 3: of them. Now, you know how it is when you

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Speaker 3: they tell you. The timeline's going to be. That, for

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Speaker 3: whatever reason, always seems to be the case. And apparently

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Speaker 3: it also is the case for air Force one or

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Speaker 1: Air Force one cost overruns, time delays. Anyone who's ever

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Speaker 2: No, just getting them to show up half the time

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Speaker 2: is hard.

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Speaker 1: Going to have that, bro. So the planes we're talking

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Speaker 1: about now, the planes that Donald Trump is using, the

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Speaker 1: plane that had to turn around and bring him back

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Speaker 1: last night, is the same plane that carried George Herbert

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Speaker 3: That's insane crazy, Since nineteen ninety the same planes Herbert

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Speaker 3: That does seem like we are due for another Can

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Speaker 3: you imagine what Trump said. I mean, maybe he was

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Speaker 3: totally calm and cool as a cucumber, but you know

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Speaker 3: how frustrated you get late at night when your plane

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Speaker 3: gets delayed. And again, never had anything as important as

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Speaker 3: he has in terms of the world stage and Davos.

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Speaker 2: But like you gotta think he was probably.

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Speaker 3: A little peeved that almost an hour into his flight

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Speaker 3: he is to turn around, get off the plane, go

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump, do you think he has tolerance for that?

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Speaker 1: You know what I think, And you know what I

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Speaker 1: think he's figuring out how he can use this now

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Speaker 1: as an example to get what I want. See Tojoe,

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Speaker 1: we need new planes, boom, let me have them. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I think he will use this to his advantage.

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Speaker 1: And you know what the other thing about Davos, he's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, wait, actually he'll take a rand entrance this way,

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Speaker 3: wait on me right, fashionably late.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but folks, stay here though. When we come back,

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Speaker 1: we'll explain why there might be a jet already waiting

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Speaker 1: in the wings to become the new Air Force one,

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Speaker 1: and why this isn't the first time and he isn't

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Speaker 1: the first president who's had to turn his plane around.

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Speaker 1: All right, we continue here on this early morning Amy

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Speaker 1: and TJ overnight stories that Air Force one had to

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Speaker 1: make a turnaround just thirty minutes or so into its flight.

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Speaker 1: President was heading to Dabbos, Switzerland for the World Economic Forum,

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Speaker 1: had a not a mechanical but an electrical issue is

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Speaker 1: what they called it, on the plane and they had

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Speaker 1: to turn around out of an abundance of caution. The

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Speaker 1: President's switched planes. He is on his way as of

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Speaker 1: this recording, were not exactly sure when he's going to

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Speaker 1: land and if he's going to have to push back

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Speaker 1: his eight thirty Eastern time speech he was supposed to make.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it's about a seven and a half hour flight.

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Speaker 3: The reports show that he finally took off at around midnight,

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Speaker 2: But it's funny this.

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Speaker 1: Somebody gave me a plane. So that's still that plane

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Speaker 3: However, with all of that said, President Trump, you remember,

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's sabotaged Air Force one so he could use

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Speaker 1: And I hope everybody going to understand this is all

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Speaker 1: for Rio, that the president's sabotage an electrical issue on

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Speaker 1: had to turn her plane around. Yes, it happened to

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