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Speaker 3: broadcasting live from Bellevue Square Center Court. Michael bumpas with

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Speaker 3: my man, Paul Moyer aka Moyer aka Number deuce one.

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Speaker 3: What's up, Moy? How you doing? Man?

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Speaker 4: I'm I'm gonna be low key tonight.

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Speaker 3: What do you mean? What does that mean?

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Speaker 5: Because I've been very excited this week from what we

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Speaker 5: saw last Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So you're trying to taper expectations, like what does that mean?

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Speaker 5: I don't want people thinking I'm Homer and then we're

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Speaker 5: going to Super Bowl with my passion for what this

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Speaker 5: defense look like on Sunday. But been waiting eight years

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Speaker 5: for it, eight years for this defense to look like

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Speaker 5: a championship defense, a defense that when you watch San

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Speaker 5: Francisco and Baltimore and you and I have talked about

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Speaker 5: it a bunch.

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Speaker 4: As I go.

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Speaker 5: They play at another speed, another level of want to.

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Speaker 4: It's want.

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Speaker 5: There's times when you you you looked at our team

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Speaker 5: in the past, and it's not that it's bad.

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Speaker 4: It's not bad.

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Speaker 5: I mean you go, Okay, I get it, but it

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Speaker 5: ain't great. And you know when you see greatness, right,

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Speaker 5: and well I saw Sunday was that was.

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Speaker 4: A great performance?

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Speaker 3: You sat saw greatness.

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Speaker 5: And it wasn't one guy. I mean, the guy who

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Speaker 5: jumps out to me was newcomer Dotson. I mean, man,

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Speaker 5: the speed that he plays at and the desire. Man,

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Speaker 5: it's I mean, you you can make up for so

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Speaker 5: much when you have somebody who plays with that kind

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Speaker 5: of passion.

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Speaker 4: But guess what. Julian Loved did the same thing.

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Speaker 5: Guess what so did Jenkins, and guess what so did Witherspoon,

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Speaker 5: and guess what wool And guess what so did Mathey,

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Speaker 5: and so did Murphy, and so did Williams, and so

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Speaker 5: did Wallace and so did uh. Basically it was at

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Speaker 5: k guy big, I'm telling you, it was pretty much everybody.

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Speaker 5: Matter of fact, one of our best players last year.

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Speaker 5: It wasn't that he played bad. It just you know,

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Speaker 5: sometimes he's doubled. He didn't get a lot of opportunities.

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Speaker 5: It was read and I was like, oh, you know, yeah,

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Speaker 5: that's one of our very best players. But it's I mean,

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Speaker 5: everything has been elevated. And I cannot understate this enough.

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Speaker 5: The addition of Jenkins, Dotson and Baker. Yeah, that's the

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Speaker 5: difference and the and the reason why it's elevated everybody

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Speaker 4: It's a want to now, it's a desire.

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Speaker 5: Last year, he used to watch this and I go, mabe,

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Speaker 5: we're just not We're not playing this play like it's

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Speaker 5: the last play of my career, and you have to

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Speaker 5: play this game.

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Speaker 4: I think McDonald talks about to play on an edge.

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Speaker 5: You gotta be on an edge to be great, and

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Speaker 5: that's what I saw last week.

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Speaker 4: It's one game.

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Speaker 5: I'm not crowning them top ten best defense, but we're

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Speaker 5: gonna match up with a lot of people. I'm really

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Speaker 5: excited to see this week's game against New England because

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Speaker 5: New England's gonna play big boy football. They're gonna line

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Speaker 5: They're gonna try to get some sustained long drives and

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Speaker 4: You can't do it big boy football. On defense, you

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Speaker 4: know they're gonna try and get you into situations you

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Speaker 5: Completely different game than what we just came from with

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Speaker 5: the Broncos. So I'm really excited to see how we

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Speaker 3: I'm excited about the defense as well. What I loved

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Speaker 3: They were flying to the football, they were tackling you,

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Speaker 3: but they were hitting you at the same time. I

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Speaker 3: I struggle with. We realized that the Denver Broncos weren't

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Speaker 3: I see a team that's a bit better than the

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Speaker 3: I want to see the next step defensively. The next

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Speaker 3: the quarterback and making more plays. They played well. I

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Speaker 3: his film. But offensively is where things were a little

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Speaker 3: shaky to start. You start the game, you have a sack,

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Speaker 3: You have a false start twenty four plays in the

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Speaker 3: that just lets you know they weren't connecting things. But

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Speaker 3: they get things going. It was the perfect storm, in

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Speaker 3: my opinion. Your defense comes out and balls out your

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Speaker 3: points and win a game. If you're Mike McDonald, first

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable Because like in the NFL, it's just about winning.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna come back to that sex because I'm a

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Speaker 5: playoff talking about the Bengals, New England beat the Bengals.

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Speaker 5: The Bengals were not good enough to withstand the turnovers

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Speaker 4: They fumbled the punt too.

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Speaker 5: They were about to score a touchdown and they're on

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Speaker 5: out to about the twenty yard line. Talking about New England,

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Speaker 5: they have another turnover. Three turnovers. First half. We have

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Speaker 5: That's the reason for the interception. We fumble a punt

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Speaker 5: the other way, they get another safety. That's another turnover

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Speaker 5: because we literally had two plays. Actually we didn't have two.

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Speaker 5: We were good enough to overcome that with our great

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Speaker 5: I'd give Grub credit. He you know, he calls it

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Speaker 5: the one time. H Yeah, they called it something in

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Speaker 5: want to say hang on. We we got the first down,

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Speaker 3: Now we hunggong. Because you were sitting next to me,

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Speaker 3: You're like, I don't know, but I don't know a

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Speaker 3: big scramble.

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Speaker 4: Remember the next to scramble.

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Speaker 5: I looked up at the clock and I started doing

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Speaker 5: the math, and I go, this one's not over.

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Speaker 3: But that's the NFL though, Yeah, like it's this isn't

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Speaker 3: Alabama versus Chattanooga of Northern Washington Eastern Texas, right, this

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Speaker 3: when you go across the league, you're only gonna win

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Speaker 3: by seven to ten points. You're it's rare that you

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Speaker 4: Well, you you gave up a stat and I kind

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Speaker 3: Point game and it was from NASA Schoby.

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Speaker 5: So blowout or upset, which was the nast biggest upset.

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Speaker 5: That just goes to show how tight seven and a

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Speaker 5: half point underdog was the biggest underdog to win on

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Speaker 3: That was New England versus the Bengals.

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Speaker 4: That's that's shocking.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, and again New England's or excuse me,

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Speaker 5: Cincinnati's not great, but they're good. New England not great,

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Speaker 5: but you're gonna have to go beat them.

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Speaker 3: You still have to pick Cincinnati to win that game

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, And so I just you know, it shows New

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Speaker 5: England as a game that we're gonna have. It's gonna

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Speaker 5: be a slugfest. Man, I can't wait. I heard Wallace

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Speaker 5: on Wyman and Bob today and he said, love our

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Speaker 5: game plan, love it.

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Speaker 4: And you know what, I didn't hear that much last year.

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Speaker 5: You know, they just believe in McDonald. Whether it's real

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Speaker 5: like our game plan. I love our effort. We can

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Speaker 5: play anything. With our speed, our secondary can cover. We're

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Speaker 5: great tackling team. There's a fine line between taking a

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Speaker 5: taking a shot when you know that your your teammates

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Speaker 5: can be right there just in case you miss. I

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Speaker 5: felt like we were on a string the whole game

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Speaker 4: So it was just really good. Man, It's best defense.

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Speaker 5: Not statistically, it was the best defense I saw play

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Speaker 5: They don't have a lot of big names. I mean,

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Speaker 5: Well, First of all, Denver offensive line is really good, right.

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Speaker 4: They are technically very sound.

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Speaker 4: More you know, we're in a more brute force this thing.

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Speaker 5: He led the team last week four targets, only two receptions,

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Speaker 5: He's kind of speaking. So we're covering all over the board.

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Speaker 3: If there's anything I think you and I are the

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Speaker 5: You know, I think it's gonna be one of those

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Speaker 3: All right, man, Well, it's gonna be a tough one.

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Speaker 3: This is Hawks Liva Michael Bumpus with my guy Paul

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Speaker 3: Moyer every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven ten,

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Speaker 3: and we are at Belvy Score Center Court. If you

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Speaker 3: ain't doing none on a Thursday, even if you are,

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Speaker 3: cancel your plans. Let's come holler at us and we'll

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Speaker 3: give you something to do.

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Speaker 4: Hey, man, I did a little shopping before.

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Speaker 3: Did you what you give me?

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Speaker 5: Let's put this way, there will be a day that

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Speaker 5: you and I look like twins. When got me some joggers?

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, let's go, let's go. I know who

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Speaker 3: got some joggers, yas, I know. I know who guys

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Speaker 3: some The guy we're talking to right now, Jake, Bubbo Bubbo,

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Speaker 3: you got you got some joggers, don't you.

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Speaker 2: I got me a couple of pair of.

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Speaker 3: Gotta love the yogers. Man, love it, man, Jake, it's

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Speaker 3: been a it's been a great ride for you so far. Man.

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Speaker 3: I've I covered you at the at the PAC twelve

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Speaker 3: network Rest in Peace. Sounds like we might be making

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Speaker 3: a comeback when you're with U c l A. And

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Speaker 3: you know, it's add two more and we're good to go.

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Speaker 3: And uh. I watched you do your thing at U

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Speaker 3: c l A. And then I watched you make the

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Speaker 3: team here last year, and then I've also watched you again.

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Speaker 3: Obviously every year it's a grind to make the team,

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Speaker 3: but I've seen you position yourself in a place to

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Speaker 3: where you know guys who are trying to beat you

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Speaker 3: out you're still trying to beat guys out, but guys

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Speaker 3: are coming after you. What what's that transition? Like it's

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Speaker 3: happened quickly, and obviously you're never satisfied, But what's that

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Speaker 3: transition from from hunting to being the hunted?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like you said, I think it's it's a little

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Speaker 2: bit different viewpoint kind of from the outside looking in,

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Speaker 2: But for me it was it was It's all the same,

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Speaker 2: just trying to earn a spot on this roster and

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Speaker 2: and and doing whatever I can to to get that spot,

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Speaker 2: and whether that's being the fourth receiver, you know, making

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Speaker 2: plays on special teams or whatever that is. I mean,

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Speaker 2: my mindset, I mean, to be honest with you guys,

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Speaker 2: was was very similar this year as it was last year.

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Speaker 2: I think the distance was, you know, I'm just a

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Speaker 2: little bit more familiar with this organization that you know,

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Speaker 2: that building, So just going in there and then being

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Speaker 2: an established guy was a little different. But I think

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Speaker 2: the mindset's got to be the same throughout.

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Speaker 5: You know, Jaked always talk about the leap from your

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Speaker 5: rookie year to your second year, but you know, look,

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Speaker 5: today's game is different, and that you know just is

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Speaker 5: now your fourth offensive coordinator, head coach in four years.

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Speaker 5: So going into your second year, you get comfortable with

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Speaker 5: your organization, but it is also keeping edge that you

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Speaker 5: got a new offensive coordinator. And and how difficult is that?

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Speaker 5: I mean, is it a different language four years in

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Speaker 5: a row for you.

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Speaker 2: You know, the language is different, but everybody's kind of

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Speaker 2: running the same thing. So you've got to get used

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Speaker 2: to the verbiage. Obviously, you've got to get used to

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Speaker 2: the staff and the coaches as well. But like you

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Speaker 2: said that, you know that adds another dynamic of all right,

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Speaker 2: I gotta go prove myself again. And and so that helps,

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Speaker 2: you know, keep that edge going into your into year two,

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Speaker 2: just trying to you know, grub phrase receivers coach, you know,

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Speaker 2: just just trying to prove myself to those guys, and

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Speaker 2: you know, to be honest with you, will try to

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Speaker 2: continue to do so throughout this year.

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Speaker 3: Jack, I'm gonna let you win on on a side

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Speaker 3: that wholeefully you don't see for a long time. That's

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Speaker 3: the media side. We're all washed up in the press, boss,

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Speaker 3: watching you guys get after it, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 3: no denying. Obviously the first half wasn't what you guys

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Speaker 3: wanted when it came to the offense, and we're in

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Speaker 3: the press box and the Denver media, they're talking loud

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Speaker 3: and they're cheering and stuff in it, and it's so unprofessional.

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Speaker 3: So the second half comes around and you guys start

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Speaker 3: doing your thing and I say out a tone or

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Speaker 3: at a volume where they can hear me, I go,

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Speaker 3: y'all not laughing? Now, how are you? And no one

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Speaker 3: says anything you did?

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Speaker 1: Well?

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Speaker 3: What was your mentality going into that second half? Are

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Speaker 3: your team's mentality because obviously you guys have the talent

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Speaker 3: to get it done, but things just weren't clicking, Like,

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Speaker 3: what was the change for you guys?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think mindset wise, you just try

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Speaker 2: to reset going into the locker room and have time.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think there was ever a dip in confidence.

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Speaker 2: Like you said, we've got the guys in that room

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Speaker 2: in the locker room to make plays, and we just

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Speaker 2: had to find out what was gonna work. Cancer scheme

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Speaker 2: that's a good defense, and they definitely had the upper

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Speaker 2: hand in the first half. So now obviously you guys

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Speaker 2: saw in the third quarter we pivoted to more of

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Speaker 2: a downhill run scheme. And and you know, broke some

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Speaker 2: things open with that, So credit to coach g and

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Speaker 2: the off the staff for doing that. But then it

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Speaker 2: also helps knowing you have that defense behind you. It

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Speaker 2: takes a little bit of a pressure off, like, hey, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, even if we're not necessarily clicking, obviously we're

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Speaker 2: going to try to, uh to get to where we

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Speaker 2: want to be offensively as soon as possible. But you know,

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Speaker 2: you can you breathe a little bit easier knowing you

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Speaker 2: have a Mike McDonald defense behind you as well.

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Speaker 5: What what because look, this is Grubb's first year in

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Speaker 5: the NFL as in OC. The first half obviously didn't

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Speaker 5: go well, but it wasn't like you guys played horrible.

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Speaker 5: It's really like four plays right, I mean interception but

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Speaker 5: should have been a penalty. They should have called hitting

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Speaker 5: below the knees there and then the two the two

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Speaker 5: backed up plays on the one yard line.

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Speaker 4: What's he like when he got down there?

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Speaker 3: Is he?

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Speaker 4: Is he calm? Is there? Is there? Hey, here's what we're.

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Speaker 5: Gonna make from an adjustment? What was actually said from

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Speaker 5: a just your your take on.

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Speaker 2: That, Yeah, he's he's very steady, so you know you

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Speaker 2: see him in the locker room. And to be honest,

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Speaker 2: he's like that every day in practice. He's steady, but

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Speaker 2: coach he's got a little bit of an edge to him,

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Speaker 2: and it's not a loud edge, but you can kind

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Speaker 2: of see it in his eyes that he's locked in

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Speaker 2: and ready to go, you know, every day for practice.

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Speaker 2: So it was no different going into that locker room

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Speaker 2: at halftime, as you know, you see it in his

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Speaker 2: eyes and you have full confidence that he's gonna he's

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Speaker 2: gonna pivot uh to a scheme and get us running

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Speaker 2: something that's gonna work. So there was no you know,

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Speaker 2: there was no panic at all in that locker room,

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Speaker 2: this steady confidence, and I think the the offensive unit

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Speaker 2: as a whole kind of reflected uh Coach G's mindset

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Speaker 2: and his tone as well.

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Speaker 3: Random question for you, Jake, do you like what do

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Speaker 3: he like? Twenty four or twenty three or something like that?

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Speaker 3: All right, so young enough, young enough. We're you know, Paul,

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Speaker 3: Paul and I on the postgame show pre you halftime,

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Speaker 3: a postgame show, and we're listening to interviews from Jim

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Speaker 3: Mueller and we hear some earth wind and fire in

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Speaker 3: the locker room. Who brought the old school playlist to

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Speaker 3: the locker room Listen.

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Speaker 2: We got to keep that under wraps. But there is

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Speaker 2: a Yes, there's a clear leader on the off when

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Speaker 2: to come to postgame soon, that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Player or coach. Player or coach.

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Speaker 2: First, and then it kind of pivots.

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Speaker 5: All right, Okay McDonald seems a little bit like an

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Speaker 5: earth winding fire chills.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of guy.

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Speaker 5: You know, he's got he's got that old soul to him.

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Speaker 5: I don't know, I'm not Look, you already said you're

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Speaker 5: not going to divulge, but that I'm throwing out.

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Speaker 3: We got to catch him off the record and ask him.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for sure, Hey, there was a there was a

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Speaker 5: play in the game that was pretty much the last

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Speaker 5: offensive play of the game. And there's been some great plays,

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Speaker 5: but Tyler Lockett over time and great throws tell us

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Speaker 5: in your eyes as a wide receiver. Because I read

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Speaker 5: a stat that the separation on that was point zero seven.

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Speaker 4: I don't even know what that means. Obviously less than

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Speaker 4: a yard. I don't know what that means. I don't either.

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Speaker 5: It means it was tight coverage and the window to

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Speaker 5: actually get that pass in and make the catch was

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Speaker 5: pretty small. What was the degree of difficulty? Can you

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Speaker 5: describe that catch?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well that is a typical Tyler Lockett. That is

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Speaker 2: a very difficult catch to make, and he made it

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Speaker 2: look easy. The underrated part that was the throw that

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Speaker 2: was an absolute dot by Gee and put it kind

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Speaker 2: of where Locke had no real choice but to catch it. Now,

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Speaker 2: to go ahead and make that catch is a is

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Speaker 2: another story. But yeah, man, great great throw, great catch,

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Speaker 2: and we needed it, so, you know, I wish I

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Speaker 2: could say I was surprised, But that's Tyler.

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Speaker 3: Lockett, last one we got for you. Jake. I'm kind

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Speaker 3: of going off of that that play right there, because

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Speaker 3: when you watch the All twenty two and you slow

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Speaker 3: it down, DK flinch is at that defender and allows

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Speaker 3: Lockett to kind of get that point seven I guess

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Speaker 3: we're talking about.

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Speaker 4: I thought he was going to get a penalty.

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Speaker 3: Hey, he flinched. Was he to make that contact? Are

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Speaker 3: you guys coach to do that or is that just

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Speaker 3: DK being a big bully out there and saying I'm

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Speaker 3: going to get some separation on my own.

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Speaker 2: So the mess route just kind of a man beater,

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Speaker 2: and you are taught kind of the the high mess,

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Speaker 2: the over mesh runner trying to get in the way

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Speaker 2: of not set a pick to get a get a

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Speaker 2: p but just kind of getting the way of the

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Speaker 2: guy and mak him feel you a little bit. And

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Speaker 2: I think he did that. You know, that's another underrated

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Speaker 2: aspect of that play is if he doesn't do that,

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Speaker 2: you know, twenty one is probably all over Tyler. Tyler's

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Speaker 2: back and DK make some flinch, makes him go underneath

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Speaker 2: and then great, great throwing catch. But you are taught

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Speaker 2: to do that. But again, if I saw fourteen coming

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Speaker 2: across the middle somebody else, I probably have my eyes

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Speaker 2: on him too.

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Speaker 3: That's what's up. Man. If I saw nineteen as well,

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Speaker 3: you're not small yourself, so throw that shoulder at him

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Speaker 3: as well. Man. Hey, Jake Man, we appreciate you. We've

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Speaker 3: had you on the show a couple of times. You've

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Speaker 3: been on the Bump and Station show as well. Man,

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Speaker 3: we appreciate your time and good luck this weekend. Safe

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Speaker 3: flights to New England.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I have fun with your family. I got a

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Speaker 5: feeling you'll have quite a few of them at that game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, sure, yes, sir, I do. I appreciate you guys.

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Speaker 3: All right, man, take care. I was Jake Bobbleman. He's

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Speaker 3: always he's always good, always here man, always man Man.

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Speaker 5: I'd love to get I really wanted to ask him

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Speaker 5: kickoff return because he's he has so many good answers

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Speaker 5: to questions and just how difficult that is, particularly to learn.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's just you are truly learning something you've

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Speaker 5: never done before, you know, in a game that you've

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Speaker 5: played your whole life.

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Speaker 4: Well, that's pretty rare.

653
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Speaker 3: He went to Duke and UCLA, so he's a sharp catch. Yeah,

654
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Speaker 3: you know, all right, make sure you get out to

655
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Speaker 3: Belvy Collection dining district. So many great restaurants to choose from.

656
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 3: Today we had our pre show meal at Sweet Restaurant

657
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:32,480
Speaker 3: and Lounge. I had the chicken casadilla casada and also

658
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Speaker 3: I had the sliders what you have.

659
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Speaker 5: I haven't eaten it yet. I got the seared AYI

660
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 5: but last year it's so good that I knew what

661
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Speaker 5: I wanted. So I'll be having a post game meal,

662
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,680
Speaker 5: postgame meal, post radio meal.

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Speaker 3: We also got Brenda something Brenna, she's she's eating it

664
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Speaker 3: right now. Actually I'm not sure what it was, but uh,

665
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Speaker 3: it sounds like it was a It was awesome.

666
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Speaker 2: What was it?

667
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Speaker 3: Black and chicken? Can't go wrong with that sweet.

668
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Speaker 4: They treat us right, man.

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Speaker 3: They do go to sweep. They take care of you. Man.

670
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Speaker 3: All right. When we come back, we'll go around the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That is next. Whare on Hawk's Live with Paul Moyer

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Speaker 3: on Michael Bumpas.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on

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Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 3: This is Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at

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Speaker 3: the Bellevue Collection of Michael Bumpas with my guy Paul Moyer.

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Speaker 3: Every Thursday. We will be right here on sevent ten

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Speaker 3: and Belvy Square Center Court. It is time to go

680
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Speaker 3: around the NFL. Now, I gotta make a confession. Our

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Speaker 3: on site engineer, her name is Brena Rogers. I work

682
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Speaker 3: with her husband and we did a segment today and

683
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Speaker 3: they asked us to predict what was going to happen

684
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Speaker 3: in Thursday night game. I go, Dolphins are going to

685
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Speaker 3: handle it, and her husband said, the Buffalo Bill's are

686
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Speaker 3: going to handle it. He's right, I'm wrong, and I'm

687
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 3: supposed to be the football guy. Man, what's going on?

688
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Speaker 4: You know, whatever may once in a while and it's rare,

689
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Speaker 4: I mean extremely rare.

690
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Speaker 5: An Arizona Wildcat gets something right. And obviously Curtis Rodgers,

691
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Speaker 5: who's a Wildcat, got this one right.

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Speaker 3: They got it right.

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Speaker 4: He probably won't get another thing right now. He's actually

694
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Speaker 4: really good at it this other than he went to universe.

695
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Speaker 3: Here, well, here's the update for the game. It is

696
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Speaker 3: now let me refresh my screen. It is thirty one

697
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 3: to ten. Tua is out who has been knocked out

698
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Speaker 3: of the game. Prayers to him and his family. He's

699
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,880
Speaker 3: already had a few major concussions and injuries. This is

700
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Speaker 3: the risk you take when you play football. You never

701
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Speaker 3: want to see someone go down like that. So before

702
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Speaker 3: he went out, he was sixteen to twenty five, one

703
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 3: hundred and forty five yards, one touchdown, three interception. Skyler

704
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 3: Thompson is now win. He's three for six for twenty

705
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Speaker 3: two yards. On the other side, Josh Allen is thirteen

706
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Speaker 3: of nineteen, one point thirty nine and one touchdown. Running

707
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 3: the rock, the Buffalo Bills have carried it twenty two

708
00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,560
Speaker 3: times for one hundred yards. Cook hast seventy eight yards

709
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Speaker 3: and two touches sounds. Josh Allen has two carries four two.

710
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Speaker 3: I didn't expect this. I thought the Dolphins had the

711
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:09,359
Speaker 3: firepower they are at home, I believe. I thought they

712
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Speaker 3: were going to get it done. But there's something about

713
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Speaker 3: the Buffalo Bills that just allows them to be relevant

714
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Speaker 3: every single year. It's crazy.

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Speaker 4: You know they got it.

716
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Speaker 5: You know they have a reputation to be a good defense.

717
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 5: Josh Allen is gifted quarterback, and you know he can

718
00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 5: he can hurt you. But I think how many interceptions

719
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Speaker 5: are two a throw to it?

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Speaker 3: Three?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean there's there's the game. I mean, you

722
00:34:31,800 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 5: can't turn the ball for three times. I'm worried about him.

723
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Speaker 5: I had read or somebody.

724
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Speaker 4: Texts said he was twitching, and really I just said, look, man,

725
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Speaker 4: he's had too many of them.

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Speaker 5: It's been it's been a concern. Obviously. We'll see what

727
00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 5: happens with Hopefully he comes back. If he doesn't, we're

728
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 5: gonna find out how good they're head coaches, because man,

729
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,800
Speaker 5: it's hard to win with backup quarterbacks, it is. And

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Speaker 5: here's what I guarantee. Two ain't playing against us next weekends,

731
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Speaker 5: so I pray that he is healthy.

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Speaker 4: To come back in two weeks, but not one week,

733
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Speaker 4: one week.

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Speaker 3: No, aha, let Skyler take over, no.

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Speaker 4: Matter of fact I have I'm already. I'm going to

736
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Speaker 4: say it right now. He's not allowed to play next week.

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Speaker 3: He's not not with a concussion like that, especially when

738
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Speaker 3: it's his third or fourth. It changes things a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Your first one back in our day, Mary, Oh, you

740
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Speaker 3: got your bell rung? Huh, got bell and get back

741
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Speaker 3: out there?

742
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 4: Bell rung a lot.

743
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Speaker 3: I was.

744
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Speaker 5: I was fortunate that the times I got knocked out,

745
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,839
Speaker 5: they were always like a last game of the year,

746
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Speaker 5: last game of spring practice. So they always held me out.

747
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Speaker 5: And that's the important part. You You know, you've got

748
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Speaker 5: bleeded in that brain. You got a lot of heal

749
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Speaker 5: to have a shot. So but I was not a

750
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Speaker 5: guy who liked to leave with my head. I'd like

751
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Speaker 5: to leave my shoulder. There's the other guy, my son man.

752
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 5: He led with us head all the time. He used

753
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Speaker 5: to freak me out.

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Speaker 3: They taught us to lead with our face masks. Yeah,

755
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 3: back when I was the ball, Yeah, it was crazy.

756
00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 3: Times have changed. Let's look forward, you know, let's look back.

757
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 3: Let's look back to last week. So when you look

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Speaker 3: at last week. What games surprised you a little bit?

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Speaker 3: I know, for for a while the Arizona Cardinals were

760
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Speaker 3: hanging in there with the Buffalo Bills. I was really

761
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Speaker 3: surprised with that. And that's without getting Marvin Harrison involved,

762
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Speaker 3: the standout wide receiver who had some issues with what

763
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Speaker 3: fanatics and selling this jersey or whatnot. He only had

764
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Speaker 3: one reception. I think he had three or four targets.

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Speaker 3: But that game stood out to me because I kept

766
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Speaker 3: refreshing the score and checking it and couldn't believe what

767
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Speaker 3: I was seeing. The Buffalo Bills ended up winning thirty

768
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Speaker 3: four to twenty eight. That game stood out to me.

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Speaker 3: I think that allows you to believe that the Arizona

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Speaker 3: Cardinals are slowly turning the corner when it comes to

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Speaker 3: bouncing back from the Cliff Kingsbury era.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I thought there. You know, I thought

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Speaker 5: the Steelers beating the Falcons. I thought the Falcons were

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Speaker 5: gonna have a pretty good offense. You know that that

775
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Speaker 5: had to be a huge disappointment with all the moves

776
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Speaker 5: that they had made in the offseason. The Cardinals looked great.

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Speaker 5: I mean I thought they were going to beat the

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Speaker 5: Bills and you know, Bill, as you mentioned great comeback.

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Speaker 5: I think one of the big surprises was the Titans

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Speaker 5: jump out seventeen to seventeen nothing against Chicago. And it

781
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Speaker 5: wasn't like Chicago looked good. I mean, none of the

782
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Speaker 5: rookie quarterbacks had good days. You know, they're I think

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Speaker 5: they're all going to struggle to an extent. You know,

784
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Speaker 5: I think bo Nick still, I think Denver has champs

785
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,360
Speaker 5: to be pretty good. They're missing some firepower at wide receiver,

786
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,040
Speaker 5: but I think their defense and offensive.

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Speaker 4: Line are good that I thought. There's a lot of

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Speaker 4: them that.

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Speaker 5: I mean, obviously, how about the Patriots going to Cincinnati

790
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Speaker 5: h and win an eight year sixteen to ten. Probably

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Speaker 5: the Texans and Colts. Know, you know Jaguars were leading.

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Speaker 5: Were they leading seventeen to nothing? So I would say

793
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,200
Speaker 5: they were was leading. So Miami, you know they they're

794
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 5: going to lose today. You know they're they're mortal. You

795
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:50,240
Speaker 5: know they're wounded.

796
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: Now.

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00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:54,080
Speaker 5: You know the Saints blowing out I think it was

798
00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 5: the only blowout in the NFL. Carolina is just a

799
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Speaker 5: bad football team. Giants continue to.

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Speaker 4: Be who they are. I mean, they're terrible. So you know,

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Speaker 4: I think everything kind of looks the same. How about

802
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Speaker 4: the Cowboys going at Cleveland and putting up over thirty

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Speaker 4: points on the number one defense last year? Maybe they're

804
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Speaker 4: number two bal Baltimore and Cleveland number one and two.

805
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Speaker 4: So a lot of surprises. And that's the thing. It's

806
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Speaker 4: in the NFL.

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Speaker 5: It's just not college where you can go recruit you

808
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 5: know thirty, you know five star players and dominate. There's

809
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 5: always turnover, there's free agency. You don't know what you're

810
00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 5: gonna get until about the second or third week of

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Speaker 5: the season, right, and then start shaking.

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Speaker 4: This thing out. That's why they don't have rankings in

813
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Speaker 4: the NFL.

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00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 3: Wait till the playoff you get seated.

815
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Speaker 4: Yes, And that's why I hate when college ranks them

816
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,399
Speaker 4: ahead of time ago. Why are you going to rank

817
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 4: this now you both win.

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00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: I'm with you.

819
00:38:47,480 --> 00:38:50,080
Speaker 4: I can't delete frog Y because you didn't lose yet.

820
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:54,359
Speaker 5: Yeah, or Auburn lost to cow and there still looks

821
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 5: like they're ahead of cow the way they do the thing.

822
00:38:57,600 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 5: Northern Illinois is ahead of Notre Dame. Why they went

823
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Speaker 5: to Notre Dame and beat him because Notre Dame was

824
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Speaker 5: ranked fifth.

825
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Speaker 3: And they got that bag to one point four million

826
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Speaker 3: for beating them too. Yeah, that's a great trick. That's

827
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Speaker 3: a great all right, let's look forward to the next week.

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Speaker 3: All right, This week, there's some matchups that I'm looking at.

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Speaker 3: Obviously we're gonna watch the New England in the Seattle game.

830
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 3: But now I'm looking at the Rams in Arizona because

831
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Speaker 3: the Rams lose a close one in overtime. Arizona loses

832
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: a close one to the Buffalo Bills. Both these teams

833
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,040
Speaker 3: have an opportunity to kind of solidify and not solidify themselves,

834
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Speaker 3: but kind of show who they really are in week two.

835
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Speaker 3: You really don't know what team until week four or

836
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,120
Speaker 3: five in my opinion, but either way it goes. The

837
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 3: Hawks are gonna get an advantage here if they are

838
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 3: able to win their ball game. I'm looking at also

839
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 3: Pittsburgh at Denver. Justin Fields is a starter in Pittsburgh,

840
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 3: didn't produce one touchdown, six field goals. Russell Wilson he

841
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,520
Speaker 3: got his calf. Has heard we call that to thirty.

842
00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: Once you touched like thirty thirty years of age, your

843
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 3: body starts to change a little bit.

844
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Speaker 5: Let's see when things start breaking down, the others compensate.

845
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Speaker 5: Here's I'll say two games. I'm looking forward to Saints

846
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 5: at Cowboys because Saints looked really good. Cowboys looked good.

847
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 5: We'll see if one of those is pretender. And then

848
00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:24,440
Speaker 5: the Buccaneers at the Lions. Buccaneers look really good. Lions,

849
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,520
Speaker 5: you know, seem to be legit and probably the biggest one.

850
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 5: I'm looking forward to Seahawks at New England.

851
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Speaker 3: There we go, all right, Well we're gonna ask somebody

852
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:37,400
Speaker 3: about the matchup this weekend, Seahawks at New England. His

853
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 3: name a J. Barner. He's gonna be here live and

854
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Speaker 3: in person. That is next right here on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue

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00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven

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Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 1: If you're your hosts Michael Bumpis.

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Speaker 3: And Paul Moyer, you are listening to Hawk's Live presented

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Speaker 3: by the Dining District at the Bellevue Collection of Michael

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Speaker 3: Bumpus with Paul Moyer. And now we are joined by

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Speaker 3: the tight End eight eight AJ Barneman. AJ, how you doing,

864
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Speaker 3: man good?

865
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Speaker 6: Appreciate you guys having me on here.

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Speaker 3: Man, thanks for taking your time. It's always we always

867
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Speaker 3: appreciate it. Because it's a Thursday. You have practice today.

868
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Speaker 3: You got a lot of stuff going on. Paul and

869
00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I used to play, so we understand like time is money,

870
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 3: so we appreciate you coming out here. Man. Sure you

871
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:29,919
Speaker 3: had your first experience in the league, like you played

872
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,399
Speaker 3: in some big games. Man, Yeah, played at Indiana, played

873
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,440
Speaker 3: at Michigan. You're used to the crowd and all the

874
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,560
Speaker 3: noise and stuff. Man, what was your first experience?

875
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:40,200
Speaker 6: Like, I feel like that helped, Like playing at Michigan

876
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:42,600
Speaker 6: and playing in the Big Ten, just being in the

877
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:43,560
Speaker 6: National Championship.

878
00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 3: I felt like that helped a lot.

879
00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 6: And then also the preseason games too, you know, playing

880
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 6: in three of those, but you know it's different, just

881
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 6: the competition is different. But I felt comfortable out there,

882
00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 6: and I think, you know, it's just another challenge this

883
00:41:56,160 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 6: week too.

884
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:58,200
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to get better every week.

885
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 5: We just had Jake bow we'll call in and you know,

886
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 5: he was the guy who said Duke and U c

887
00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 5: l A. And then he comes here and it's his

888
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 5: fourth head coach, fourth offensive coordinator.

889
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 4: Now that's kind of becoming the norm.

890
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 5: You know, you're at Indiana, you go to Michigan, you know,

891
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:16,399
Speaker 5: talk about that you end up at Indiana. I kind

892
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 5: of understand why you go to Michigan, but but just

893
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:20,680
Speaker 5: tell us how that all went about.

894
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,760
Speaker 6: So, I mean, I was at Indiana for three years

895
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 6: and just felt like, you know, there's I played with

896
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 6: two different offensive coordinators, and then going into my senior year,

897
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 6: I felt like, you know, as an athlete, you know,

898
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:36,719
Speaker 6: you don't you only have you know what your eligibility is.

899
00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 6: So the transfer portal entered into there ended up going

900
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 6: to Michigan. I mean, so, but like I feel like,

901
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 6: like you mentioned with Bubba, with the four different coaches,

902
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,640
Speaker 6: for me, like coming to Seattle's a blessing because I

903
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,880
Speaker 6: was at Indiana, made connections with you know, the coaches

904
00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 6: there who ended up going to Washington and with Grubb

905
00:42:55,200 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 6: and then ended up going to Michigan, you know, going

906
00:42:57,120 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 6: to Michigan, and then I come here and coach Mike

907
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,799
Speaker 6: McDonald's at Michigan. So I think just having like both

908
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,319
Speaker 6: those things together. I don't know if there's any other

909
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,279
Speaker 6: organizations organization in the league that you know that would

910
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 6: have happened for me.

911
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 3: So when did you make the transition to tight ends.

912
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 3: Tight Ends are interesting. Yeah, you were either like a

913
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 3: tight end who moved to tackle, or like a linebacker

914
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,400
Speaker 3: or a receiver who grew and they moved you to

915
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: a tight end. That's what it was. I was a linebackers.

916
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:23,560
Speaker 3: I was a linebacker for most of.

917
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,080
Speaker 6: My life, played quarterback two. It wasn't very good at

918
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 6: quarterback at all, But then at like my junior year,

919
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 6: that's when I switched to tight end, but also played linebacker.

920
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,640
Speaker 6: At my high school mostly everyone played both ways.

921
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, and a good linebacker too. You're Northeast Ohio.

922
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 5: I'm reading your Wikipedia page here, Defensive player of the Year.

923
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: Did you I mean, do you want to stay at

924
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:46,319
Speaker 4: linebacker or just.

925
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 6: I mean, yeah, part of me did for sure, But

926
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 6: I just felt like with my size being six six,

927
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 6: like and I'm not the fastest guy in the world,

928
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 6: Like I feel like, you know, you just know your

929
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 6: mold for like what a linebacker is and what a

930
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 6: tight end is. So the transition was good. But I

931
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,720
Speaker 6: think like I have a wrestling background too. I wrestled

932
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 6: for a long time in my life, so just the

933
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball, I feel like in wrestling

934
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,000
Speaker 6: has helped me become.

935
00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,000
Speaker 3: A tight end. Not the fastest, but I watched the

936
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 3: film and you're smooth man. Yeah, and you have soft

937
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: hand for sure. Were you a baseball player where you're home?

938
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 6: I played baseball, I mean I played really all the sports, like,

939
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: but I like I played baseball, I played rec basketball.

940
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,919
Speaker 6: But yeah, I do think that part of my game, Like, yeah,

941
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 6: I'm not I might not be the fastest straight line,

942
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 6: but I do feel like I find zone coverages very well.

943
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 6: And then like you said, smooth, like I'm gonna get open.

944
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 6: I feel like, like you said, soft hands.

945
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 5: So their watch a bunch of you at Michigan and

946
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:42,000
Speaker 5: then this last game, and you definitely have a I

947
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,040
Speaker 5: don't want to say it's a nasty st guy.

948
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,759
Speaker 4: Sometimes it means like you're dirty. You're not.

949
00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 5: You're just you're relentless at getting in somebody's face staying

950
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 5: on them.

951
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, where's that come from? Brothers?

952
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 6: Really, I just played hard, and I mean playing at

953
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 6: Michigan too, and like and also just being in my

954
00:44:58,120 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 6: first game and just having that opportunity, you know, like

955
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,279
Speaker 6: you want to like they should have no reason like

956
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 6: to take you out kind of type thing. So and

957
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 6: honestly to the crowd noise, Like you can't even hear

958
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 6: a whistle. So for me, it's like play whistle whistle.

959
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 6: That's what I was doing. And if it rubbed somebody

960
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 6: the wrong way, then so be it. But like I'm

961
00:45:12,600 --> 00:45:15,919
Speaker 6: not gonna get embarrassed by you know what I'm saying.

962
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 5: So I got to ask about the crowd noise. We're

963
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,480
Speaker 5: pretty proud up here the twelve and what loom and

964
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 5: Field can do. Look, you pack over one hundred thousand

965
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,760
Speaker 5: in Michigan. Yeah, can you want to compare that noise?

966
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,359
Speaker 4: I mean I haven't.

967
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 6: I mean, I've played in Michigan in the game and

968
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 6: then obviously this is week one and it was probably

969
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 6: just as loud, so I'm sure like for a big

970
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,759
Speaker 6: game it'll be even louder. But you know, Michigan, the

971
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 6: stadium is built out and then loom and You have

972
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:44,520
Speaker 6: that overhang, so I think it makes it that much louder.

973
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 3: But it was definitely really loud in there. For sure.

974
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 3: I had allowed to see him. I've been at the

975
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: opportunity to meet your mom and dad. It was during

976
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: training camp, and uh, you know, I just making connections

977
00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:01,440
Speaker 3: and talking to them and your dad seems like just

978
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 3: intense but also welcoming at the same Oh yeah, man,

979
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 3: what was it. What was it like with your dad?

980
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 3: Because I wanted to talk to him for an hour

981
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:12,759
Speaker 3: if I could, but I had to get back to work,

982
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,200
Speaker 3: and I was all right. I always tried to look

983
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 3: at the parents and then make the connection with their kids.

984
00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 3: What do you think you got from your dad?

985
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 6: Yeah, definitely that intensity was just being respectful. I grew

986
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 6: up with three sisters, so like just you know, defending

987
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,239
Speaker 6: your sisters and everything like that. So I think my

988
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:30,399
Speaker 6: parents are great. My mom's a go' so I said

989
00:46:30,440 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 6: that the one thing. She always takes care of me

990
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 6: whatever I need. But yeah, I can't stress enough how

991
00:46:36,040 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 6: much they've done for me and just great people. Are

992
00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 6: they athletes too?

993
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 3: My dad was.

994
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:41,480
Speaker 6: My mom was too, not in college, but like, my

995
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 6: mom's a good athlete. When I was growing up, if

996
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 6: my dad couldn't she throw me the ball around in

997
00:46:45,560 --> 00:46:45,919
Speaker 6: the yard.

998
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:47,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, that's what's up.

999
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 5: I got a twin sister, an older sister. They used

1000
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,319
Speaker 5: to beat me up and they kind of honestly, I mean,

1001
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 5: they competed with him athletically all the time.

1002
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:59,799
Speaker 4: You got three sisters, right, what was that like growing up.

1003
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:03,880
Speaker 6: I mean, like I said, you just gotta, like, you know,

1004
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:08,319
Speaker 6: make sure that you're you know, defending your sisters, I guess,

1005
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 6: and just like you know, I feel like in the

1006
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,360
Speaker 6: car I said it recently, like you're watching more so

1007
00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 6: girl movies than a boy movie and you just gotta

1008
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 6: deal with it.

1009
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:17,359
Speaker 3: Rom coms all day.

1010
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 4: Yeah huh.

1011
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,480
Speaker 3: But so your first game, I'm not big enough to

1012
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:25,759
Speaker 3: be a tight end, believe it or not, out Aja,

1013
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 3: I played on the outside and that's such a different game.

1014
00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 3: And as a tight end, you get moved to the outside,

1015
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 3: get moved to the inside, You're attaching line of scrimmage,

1016
00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:40,800
Speaker 3: you're blocking linebackers, sometimes you got you got safeties. What

1017
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 3: is it about a tight end that allows you to

1018
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,240
Speaker 3: be just so versatile?

1019
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 7: Man Like?

1020
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 3: Is that is that something that you've had to learn

1021
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 3: or you think that's something that you kind of had

1022
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 3: in you because of all the sports that you played

1023
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 3: as well.

1024
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:54,360
Speaker 6: I think that's what I love about the position and

1025
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 6: just a game of football that you really have to

1026
00:47:56,120 --> 00:48:00,160
Speaker 6: reinvent yourself every Sunday. And like you said, being are

1027
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,520
Speaker 6: still being able to pass protech, being able to run, block,

1028
00:48:02,600 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 6: being able to you know, play on special teams. Catch

1029
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:07,560
Speaker 6: the ball is what really makes tight end fun. And

1030
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,440
Speaker 6: that's just something that I'd love to do and love

1031
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: to get better at.

1032
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:14,520
Speaker 5: So, yeah, we're visiting with AJ Barner or tied in

1033
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,440
Speaker 5: for the Seahawks, and you came from a you know,

1034
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:21,359
Speaker 5: Jim Harbach, you know, pretty good pass in the running game,

1035
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 5: really good coach. I would even say, a good technician.

1036
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 5: What do they teach at Michigan or here in Seattle

1037
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,880
Speaker 5: that might be different that you could compare, that might

1038
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 5: be different just and just blocking?

1039
00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 4: Is it technique? Is it maybe stop?

1040
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 6: I think first of all, like in college, especially in springball,

1041
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: like you just hit way more, you know, like fall

1042
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:44,160
Speaker 6: camp obviously here is like you know, tough in college,

1043
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 6: like at Michigan, like inside run drill every day we'd

1044
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 6: have beat Ohio drill like nine on seven. So I

1045
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,080
Speaker 6: think that and just like the tenasty of it and

1046
00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:54,919
Speaker 6: just the run schemes that we ran to I feel

1047
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 6: like the coaches put us in a good position to succeed,

1048
00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 6: always had us prepared, and that's just what we take

1049
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 6: what we take pride in there.

1050
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 3: What's it like being a being a pro man Because

1051
00:49:05,640 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 3: at Michigan. You're a student athlete. You got to show up,

1052
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,000
Speaker 3: do your lab, make sure your homework is good. Is

1053
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,239
Speaker 3: it a relief? And this is something my guy Paul

1054
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 3: usually asked these guys. We've been doing this for what

1055
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 3: five six years now, and the transition has to be crazy.

1056
00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 3: I remember when I made the transition. I go, I

1057
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 3: get to wake up and just do football. Like what

1058
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 3: was that like for you?

1059
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,239
Speaker 6: It's been a lot of fun, and you know, just

1060
00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 6: trying to take advantage of it. And then also to

1061
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 6: just like pick the vet's mind, Like I'm lucky enough

1062
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 6: to have Lockett as my locker right next to me,

1063
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,239
Speaker 6: So somebody that played in the league for that long,

1064
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 6: asking what he's doing outside of the facility to take

1065
00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:38,880
Speaker 6: care of his body, what he's doing inside the facility

1066
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 6: to prepare and like you said, you have more time

1067
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:44,359
Speaker 6: than when you were a student athlete. So just making

1068
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 6: sure that I'm using it wisely and asking the vets

1069
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 6: to help advise me on that.

1070
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 4: When you're at Michigan, do you have all the resources

1071
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 4: to see hawks? App? I mean, is it's sports science? Nutrition?

1072
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 4: Your own shakes come over here?

1073
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 3: AJ?

1074
00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,040
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, this is how you recover when you guys

1075
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,399
Speaker 4: come off to each one and you have your name

1076
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 4: when you come off the field. What to drink?

1077
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,359
Speaker 6: I would honestly just say just as much, like it's

1078
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,920
Speaker 6: almost in that regards the same. You know, they have

1079
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,480
Speaker 6: food there for you pretty much all the time and whatnot.

1080
00:50:11,520 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 6: So I would say yeah, But honestly, the college the

1081
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 6: college facilities too, just based on recruiting, you know, I

1082
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 6: think they kind of are better than the NFL facilities,

1083
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 6: but they have everything you need in both spots.

1084
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,719
Speaker 3: For sure. When I was coming up, Twitter was just

1085
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,239
Speaker 3: getting popping when I was in the league. You guys

1086
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 3: are a different breed now, like you grew up with

1087
00:50:30,680 --> 00:50:34,440
Speaker 3: social media and guys and the people watching you at

1088
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: all times. How where are you of that? And how

1089
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,080
Speaker 3: does the NFL or the Seahawks kind of help you

1090
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 3: work through that?

1091
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:44,919
Speaker 6: I would say pretty pretty aware, Like I really don't

1092
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,800
Speaker 6: I don't have Twitter on my phone, to be honest,

1093
00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:50,040
Speaker 6: and then I forget yeah, and I have like you know,

1094
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 6: limits on my abs. But obviously you can use social

1095
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:55,320
Speaker 6: media too to like as a business platform and to

1096
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 6: promote yourself and whatnot. So it's definitely a balance too,

1097
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:00,839
Speaker 6: because you know, you can't. Can't drink the kool aid.

1098
00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 6: You can't. You know what I'm saying, Like, when you

1099
00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 6: have a good game, you can't just be all focused

1100
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,239
Speaker 6: on like what I did and whatnot, because you know

1101
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 6: you got another one coming up.

1102
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:09,279
Speaker 3: So I try not to.

1103
00:51:09,880 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 6: I try to stay off there honestly as much as

1104
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 6: I can, but also to you know, use it to

1105
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 6: connect with even my friends, stay in touch with those people. So,

1106
00:51:17,480 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 6: like you said, I'm from Ohio. You know some of

1107
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:21,320
Speaker 6: my people keep up with me back home based on

1108
00:51:21,440 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 6: social media. So it's definitely a bounce.

1109
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 5: All right, Parents and kids, listen, did you hear that

1110
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:28,799
Speaker 5: he puts limits on social media? We need to all right,

1111
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,240
Speaker 5: you've been out here in Chatty, came from Ohio, Indiana, Michigan.

1112
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 5: What do you like to do away from football? And

1113
00:51:35,520 --> 00:51:36,960
Speaker 5: if you've been able to do that up here?

1114
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:40,239
Speaker 6: Honestly, just really like I like to take care of

1115
00:51:40,320 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 6: my body, make sure I'm staying on top of my stuff.

1116
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 6: I went down to LA and the off season was

1117
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,880
Speaker 6: working out down there and just get outside, get outside,

1118
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 6: do stuff and then also just relax, hang with family.

1119
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: I keep it simple.

1120
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 6: Man gets to better the good time.

1121
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:55,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, playball football.

1122
00:51:55,800 --> 00:51:58,919
Speaker 6: Yeah, especially this time too, and going honestly, your rookie

1123
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 6: yar too, Like you played in the National Championship. You

1124
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 6: get ready for the combine. You know, you come, you

1125
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 6: come here for tas, you get a little break and

1126
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 6: then you're right back to it. So that's what it

1127
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,840
Speaker 6: really would it's been recently. Yeah, you plan on keeping it,

1128
00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,520
Speaker 6: well said. People don't realize me. You've already played three

1129
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 6: preseason game, regular season game. You're already almost halfway through

1130
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:18,160
Speaker 6: your college season.

1131
00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 5: And here you're just through your first regular season. So

1132
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 5: taking care of your body for sure. Getting relaxed. Man,

1133
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 5: it's easy to get pulled. The twelves are crazy out here.

1134
00:52:27,280 --> 00:52:29,479
Speaker 5: I mean, you're gonna find that out there. They're gonna

1135
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:29,719
Speaker 5: love you.

1136
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 4: So, sir, it's a lot of fun.

1137
00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:32,480
Speaker 3: Well you just wait a couple of months. Man, it's

1138
00:52:32,480 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 3: gonna get dark at four thirty old knock out real quick. Hey,

1139
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: give her one more time for a tight end a

1140
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 3: J barner. All right, when we come back, we'll go

1141
00:52:41,960 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 3: inside the film where we're gonna break down some plays.

1142
00:52:44,080 --> 00:52:45,560
Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawk's Line.

1143
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: Hawks Fly presented by the Dining District at the Bellepe

1144
00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court live on air on

1145
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:56,480
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

1146
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 3: Welcome back to Slave of Michael Bumpus with my guy

1147
00:53:02,440 --> 00:53:06,560
Speaker 3: Paul Moyer, every Thursday right here on sevent ten, presenting

1148
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 3: live from Bellvy Square Center Court. Man, if we just

1149
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:12,600
Speaker 3: interviewed AJ Barner, I got a good feeling about Aj.

1150
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,880
Speaker 3: I have a good feeling about Aj Moyer. I think

1151
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: it's gonna be good for him. But now it's time

1152
00:53:16,880 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 3: for us to do what Paul and I love to do.

1153
00:53:20,440 --> 00:53:24,920
Speaker 3: My man texts me at like twelve thirty. Sometimes my

1154
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,440
Speaker 3: phone goes off, ping, ping. The wife is like, who

1155
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,560
Speaker 3: the heck is texting you at twelve thirty, and I go,

1156
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 3: it's Paul Moyer. He's been watching some film. He's got

1157
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 3: some ideas and he's like me, like, if I don't

1158
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 3: send it now, I'm gonna forget it. If I don't

1159
00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 3: write it down, I'm gonna forget it. So he's always

1160
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 3: ready for us. Man. So we got three plays that

1161
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 3: we are going to break down. This first one, ken

1162
00:53:46,520 --> 00:53:48,480
Speaker 3: Walker got the party started in the second half. The

1163
00:53:48,520 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 3: first half was rough for this offense. You start with

1164
00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:54,040
Speaker 3: a sack, an interception, a false start, you got twenty

1165
00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:57,319
Speaker 3: four plays to Broncos forty four. It was all bad

1166
00:53:57,400 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 3: in the second half. They say, you know we're gonna

1167
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 3: switch some things up. Start with the run. This is

1168
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 3: Ken Walker's twenty three yard touchdown run in the third quarter.

1169
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,719
Speaker 7: Well three receivers, including JSN on the left side, but

1170
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 7: JSN is just winged off the tackle outside. Walker's gonna

1171
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:14,760
Speaker 7: run it again. JSN throws the block, Walker turns up field,

1172
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:17,319
Speaker 7: be gut in touchdown.

1173
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:19,280
Speaker 3: Seahawks.

1174
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 7: Check in the dictionary under answer, and that's what the

1175
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 7: Seahawks offense just did right down the field to start

1176
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,719
Speaker 7: the second half. Ryan Grub said, we want to run

1177
00:54:30,760 --> 00:54:31,280
Speaker 7: the football.

1178
00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:32,399
Speaker 3: By golly, they did.

1179
00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 7: Walker from twenty three outs puts it in on the

1180
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 7: Seahawks go back on top fifteen thirteen.

1181
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:42,320
Speaker 3: This is the play that needed to happen. Walker starts

1182
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: off in the shotgun positions to the right of Genome.

1183
00:54:45,000 --> 00:54:47,799
Speaker 3: Geno motions him over to the left side. You get

1184
00:54:47,800 --> 00:54:50,480
Speaker 3: your left guard to pull, your center blocks down, you

1185
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,200
Speaker 3: get your right guard to pull take care of the end,

1186
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 3: and then you're guarding your Assume your tackle gets up

1187
00:54:57,239 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 3: to that second level and the tackle misses the play.

1188
00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,520
Speaker 3: He misses it. But ken Walker is so strong and

1189
00:55:02,640 --> 00:55:05,840
Speaker 3: so explosive. He bounces to the outside and scores a touchdown,

1190
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 3: and then he puts some sauce on this. He dove

1191
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:09,880
Speaker 3: from like the four yard line. He didn't even need

1192
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:12,120
Speaker 3: to do that, but he did that because he's young

1193
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,880
Speaker 3: and explosive, and it made my knees hurt just watching

1194
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 3: him do it.

1195
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:19,759
Speaker 4: I just love this play man. You pull on both

1196
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: guards to the same side. And what do you call that?

1197
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:25,960
Speaker 3: Is that I'm trying to figure out because power, the

1198
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:29,000
Speaker 3: left guard pulling makes it a trap, the right guard

1199
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:31,879
Speaker 3: pulling it makes it something else. I don't know. We'll see.

1200
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 5: I'm drawing a blank on what we used to call it.

1201
00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:39,320
Speaker 4: We call it it's not an ot power. I can't anyway.

1202
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,840
Speaker 5: It's a power concept, but I can't remember it. But

1203
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 5: everybody gets their guy but one uh. And that's okay

1204
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:48,799
Speaker 5: because Canine is that kind of guy who will make

1205
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,879
Speaker 5: one guy miss. Everybody's got this is a beautiful play.

1206
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 5: Bradford knocks the crap out of the outside linebacker on

1207
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 5: the line who he pulls to his side, to his right.

1208
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:00,279
Speaker 1: Uh.

1209
00:56:00,320 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 4: And then we bring draw bike Oh Tomlinson to the

1210
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,160
Speaker 4: other side, so really good block and I'm just going

1211
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 4: to say that right now. But you're right.

1212
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 5: One of our tackles comes and it's not that he

1213
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 5: necessarily misses. And this is hard because you got a

1214
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:17,040
Speaker 5: tackle who's four yards downfield and he's trying to screen

1215
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:20,800
Speaker 5: the middle linebacker and a little my linebacker kind of

1216
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 5: oki oaks some and goes over the top.

1217
00:56:23,120 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 4: But he does miss him.

1218
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,880
Speaker 5: He doesn't touch him, and Canine gives him just a

1219
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,040
Speaker 5: little limp leg like I'm gonna give it to you,

1220
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 5: and then he pulls it away and so but and

1221
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,600
Speaker 5: this is where Canine's so special. Not only does he

1222
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:37,920
Speaker 5: do that, but now he gets up to top speed

1223
00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:39,640
Speaker 5: right from the get go, and he gets to the

1224
00:56:39,760 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 5: corner of the sideline, makes another guy miss and he dies.

1225
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 5: And I wish he didn't die because that takes away energy.

1226
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 5: And is this where he kind of tweaked his stomach?

1227
00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 3: That's tough. Maybe it was. I want to say, I

1228
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,600
Speaker 3: hope this wasn't it. I can see where that was.

1229
00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna make it.

1230
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know.

1231
00:56:58,120 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna because it was a cool play, great

1232
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 5: run though, and I'm hoping he plays this week, because

1233
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 5: those are the kind of things he can do if it's.

1234
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 4: Not block perfect. But that was about ninety eight percent

1235
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 4: block perfect.

1236
00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 3: Right, awesome? All right? This next play, Geno Smith finds

1237
00:57:12,400 --> 00:57:15,440
Speaker 3: Zach Charbonay for the thirty four a thirty yard touchdown

1238
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 3: to start the fourth You're.

1239
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 4: Gino on a first down and ten stepping up in

1240
00:57:19,520 --> 00:57:20,560
Speaker 4: the pocket, looks.

1241
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:27,880
Speaker 7: Throw down field wide open, touchdown Seahawks. Zach Charbonay wheels

1242
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 7: out of the backfield and nobody saw him except us

1243
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 7: thirty yards for the touchdown and the Seahawks stretch their

1244
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,840
Speaker 7: lead to twenty five to thirteen.

1245
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,320
Speaker 3: What did you see, moyre Well.

1246
00:57:40,560 --> 00:57:43,200
Speaker 4: I think it's a really well designed play. I think so.

1247
00:57:43,840 --> 00:57:46,640
Speaker 5: So you know, we line up two wide receivers to

1248
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 5: our left and they they we got a tight, tight

1249
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 5: formation to our right, and then they got Scharbona who's

1250
00:57:53,360 --> 00:57:55,680
Speaker 5: off set to our right in the back foone, we're

1251
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,720
Speaker 5: a gun and they run a wheel rat, which means

1252
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 5: the bat comes out of the backfield and works his

1253
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 5: way down the sideline. It's a design play to clear

1254
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 5: out the corner and the safety to work one on

1255
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 5: one and make the linebacker have to run with Sharbone.

1256
00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: I think they blow coverage because you've got the corner

1257
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 5: on that side, you have the safety on that side,

1258
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 5: and you have the backside safety looking for it as well.

1259
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 5: So somebody probably should have come off that and helped

1260
00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 5: with the wheel route and called off the linebacker. That's

1261
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 5: fine they didn't. But what sells this play also, and

1262
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 5: this is why hustle and desire and everything is so important.

1263
00:58:34,600 --> 00:58:37,560
Speaker 5: JSN has lined up to our left in the slot.

1264
00:58:37,960 --> 00:58:41,800
Speaker 5: He runs a crossing route and because of that crossing route,

1265
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,920
Speaker 5: the linebacker who's starting to run with Sharbone on the

1266
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 5: wheel route sees it and he thinks that Gino may

1267
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 5: throw it to him, and he kind of pulls off

1268
00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 5: and Gino doesn't throw it to him. He throws to Charbona.

1269
00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:58,040
Speaker 5: So really well designed play. Probably a little bit of

1270
00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,040
Speaker 5: a bus there, yep.

1271
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 4: And again as Tyler Lockett, you know all those the

1272
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 4: routes they run, Sharbonnet, the speed he had to make

1273
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,560
Speaker 4: this thing happen, so really cool play.

1274
00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:12,320
Speaker 3: I love everything that you just describe, Moyer. I'm with

1275
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,880
Speaker 3: you one hundred percent. The one thing I would add

1276
00:59:15,400 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 3: is I think the corner lost responsibility. He sees that

1277
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 3: single receiver does not acknowledge the back he's supposed In

1278
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 3: my opinion, I think he's supposed to carry that receiver

1279
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 3: into his help and then peel off with the wheel

1280
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,440
Speaker 3: and his eyes just fool him for some reason. And

1281
00:59:32,880 --> 00:59:35,680
Speaker 3: good job by Gino by just reading that corner and

1282
00:59:35,760 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 3: saying okay, because say that corner where to get depth,

1283
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 3: He's probably gonna throw that shall out to JSN that

1284
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 3: you were talking about. So when Grubb got the job,

1285
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 3: the one thing or I saw a lot of things,

1286
00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,040
Speaker 3: but something that stuck out to me is the way

1287
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 3: that he dressed up mesh. And this is just mesh

1288
00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:54,000
Speaker 3: right here. He uses mesh where the back just swings.

1289
00:59:55,000 --> 00:59:57,760
Speaker 3: Mesh is when a receiver to the right and to

1290
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,760
Speaker 3: the left cross each other around five to six shards

1291
01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 3: and put the linebackers in a buying The mesh is

1292
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,160
Speaker 3: also would win the game for the Seahawks late when

1293
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 3: Tyler Lockett caught that one hander, he'll run the mesh concept.

1294
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,640
Speaker 3: DK flinches at the guy, allows it to get some separation.

1295
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:15,640
Speaker 3: Grub loves the mesh. He'll dress it up differently and

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Speaker 3: he'll do things different with that running back, which it

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Speaker 3: kind of pinks the picture for Gina, and I think

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Speaker 3: that's what I saw there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 5: They also drop a defensive lineman who starts to run

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Speaker 5: with charbone.

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01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:27,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,880
Speaker 4: And again I'm just wondering if they kind of knew

1304
01:00:29,920 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: what play was coming.

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01:00:31,120 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 5: Huh, you know, and he designed for this defense when

1306
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 5: they get down here in the thirty yard line. I

1307
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 5: don't know when we get grub on the show next,

1308
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:40,680
Speaker 5: we'll ask him.

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01:00:40,720 --> 01:00:43,320
Speaker 3: We'll get grub. Yeah, all right, this last one man

1310
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:48,080
Speaker 3: Reek Woolen intercepts vo Nick's late in the fourth quarter, tight.

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01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 7: Slot left side on second down and ten a fake toss.

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01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,520
Speaker 3: Mix, rolls to the right, throws back in the.

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01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:58,400
Speaker 7: Middle, later accept it and a three woman who steps

1314
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 7: right in front of the receiver Portland sudden.

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01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:04,360
Speaker 3: I don't think bow Knicks ever saw him. He rolls

1316
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,240
Speaker 3: out to the right, he throws a.

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01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:09,640
Speaker 7: Dark and there were nothing but blue jerseys and one

1318
01:01:09,720 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 7: receiver there. Woollen comes down with a second pick of

1319
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 7: the game for the man se down.

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Speaker 5: So many good things on this Well, first of all,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to talk about Derek Hall. He's playing left

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01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 5: outside linebacker for us. They run kind of a fake

1323
01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:28,160
Speaker 5: toss and then what I call uh, it's a bootleg

1324
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 5: for me, and a bootleg means the quarterback wheels or

1325
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:36,120
Speaker 5: rolls out away from where the running back goes. It's

1326
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,320
Speaker 5: we used to call it a waggle if he rolls

1327
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 5: out the same side as the running back. But this

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01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 5: is a bootleg trying to deceive, you know, some of

1329
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 5: the linebackers. But Derek Hall starts to come inside and

1330
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,760
Speaker 5: he gets pinned by the tight end. He sees it

1331
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:53,880
Speaker 5: and he immediately works back outside so that bo Nicks

1332
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 5: can't keep getting towards the sideline. Bow Nicks had to

1333
01:01:56,800 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 5: pull up on this throw. It's still this is a

1334
01:01:59,640 --> 01:02:02,560
Speaker 5: really hard play. Now, we got beat so much on

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01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,560
Speaker 5: this play last year and.

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01:02:04,600 --> 01:02:06,720
Speaker 4: The year before and the year before and the year

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01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:09,120
Speaker 4: before and the year before that, and the two years

1338
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 4: before that and the year before that.

1339
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 5: Basically it was the weakness of our defense these deep

1340
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:18,120
Speaker 5: crossing routes. First of all, Julian Love is playing, and

1341
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,280
Speaker 5: no it's only one game, but my goodness, is he

1342
01:02:20,400 --> 01:02:22,720
Speaker 5: playing well. He would have got another interception on this too.

1343
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 5: But we're going to talk about Wollen on us play.

1344
01:02:25,600 --> 01:02:29,680
Speaker 5: Because woman is playing outside technique. The wide receivers in

1345
01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,120
Speaker 5: tight probably about three yards from maybe five yards from

1346
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:37,560
Speaker 5: the offensive tackle and he's running a crossing route. Man,

1347
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,880
Speaker 5: from a geometry standpoint, you should not be able to

1348
01:02:42,040 --> 01:02:45,520
Speaker 5: make this play as a human being because the wide

1349
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,200
Speaker 5: receivers three four yards in front of you.

1350
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 4: Crossing route.

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01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:52,800
Speaker 5: You've got to close the distance as well vertically as

1352
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:56,560
Speaker 5: well as horizontally. And Wolan's so fast so long that

1353
01:02:56,920 --> 01:02:59,880
Speaker 5: he makes us play. And for those of Mike McDonald

1354
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:02,919
Speaker 5: has talked about this play a bunch, it's a spectacular play,

1355
01:03:03,080 --> 01:03:05,080
Speaker 5: but there's three or four people that play this great.

1356
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:07,400
Speaker 4: Dotson plays great because he holds it off.

1357
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,800
Speaker 5: He's holding off. He sees his guy, but he's still

1358
01:03:10,840 --> 01:03:13,360
Speaker 5: he's also sees across the rest. He's just holding. He's

1359
01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:15,480
Speaker 5: just kind of I'm in the way. You can't throw

1360
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 5: this right now, which allows Woland to catch up and

1361
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 5: make this play.

1362
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 4: And again, what a great break by Julian Love as well.

1363
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 4: I mean he would have an interception. Also.

1364
01:03:26,360 --> 01:03:29,480
Speaker 3: This is just one of those plays where I tell

1365
01:03:29,560 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 3: my son sometimes and I go, yeah, that's just God

1366
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:35,760
Speaker 3: right there. God blessed that young man with something that

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01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,000
Speaker 3: we just don't have. That's what rig Willing does because

1368
01:03:39,040 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 3: as a receiver, I'm running across the field. I feel

1369
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 3: him there, but I feel that also. Just let the

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Speaker 3: ball go. I'm gonna go and make a play. But

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01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 3: you got an avatar chasing you that's six ' three

1372
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 3: who runs a four to three and can just close

1373
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,760
Speaker 3: it on the football the way that he did. Goodness

1374
01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,480
Speaker 3: Grace's genetics. Bless that man to Rik wille on that one.

1375
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Speaker 4: So so there's another part too.

1376
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 5: So they run a post from the slot as well,

1377
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:07,680
Speaker 5: so they've got a that's not a slot the outside receiver.

1378
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:09,959
Speaker 5: They run a post and then he ends up running

1379
01:04:10,080 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 5: a deep, a deep crossing route because of it. We

1380
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 5: play this two different ways in this game. On this one,

1381
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:20,520
Speaker 5: Trey Brown stays with it and then the backside safety

1382
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 5: Jenkins picks it up. Julian Love was on the play side.

1383
01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 5: Normally he would have picked played that and Drey Brown

1384
01:04:29,000 --> 01:04:31,840
Speaker 5: would have came off. So we play a route that

1385
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 5: happens all the time, two different ways. As a offensive coordinator, man,

1386
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 5: you got problems.

1387
01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:40,800
Speaker 3: You know what they got. They played that so well,

1388
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:43,640
Speaker 3: you know what they got, same thing we got. What chemistry?

1389
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:47,000
Speaker 3: That's that defense? Baby. Okay, when we come back, it's

1390
01:04:47,040 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 3: time to top that talk. We're gonna pick up like

1391
01:04:49,560 --> 01:04:53,360
Speaker 3: three or four topics. More is gonna tell me I'm wrong.

1392
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: I'm gonna agree with him like I do with my

1393
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:58,120
Speaker 3: wife every day, but in reality, I'm gonna think I'm right.

1394
01:04:58,320 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawk's litt.

1395
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 1: It's time to Talk that Talk with Michael Bumpis and

1396
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,000
Speaker 1: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back to Hawks Live. It is now time for

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01:05:14,040 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 3: talk that talk. Man. This is where we pick a

1399
01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 3: couple of ideas.

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01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 4: You know, ding ding ding we have.

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01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: I think we got music right now like James Brown

1402
01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:31,280
Speaker 3: and James Brown was it was Rihanna. Honestly, you know

1403
01:05:31,400 --> 01:05:32,240
Speaker 3: James Browns when.

1404
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,720
Speaker 4: We used to have the professor on, Yeah, you're right, okay.

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01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 3: Get the professor. Rest in peace, John Clayton, I love

1406
01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,080
Speaker 3: you man. All right, time for talk that talk. We're

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01:05:40,120 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 3: gonna pick out some topics and lawyer is gonna make

1408
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 3: his case for a true or false. I'll make my

1409
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:47,520
Speaker 3: case for true or false. And then we allowed you

1410
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:52,640
Speaker 3: guys to decide, all one thousand of you to decide

1411
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 3: who the winner is with this, and like.

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Speaker 4: A good partner that you are, you're gonna make me

1413
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 4: feel like I want.

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Speaker 3: I always always like, all right, first one, here we go.

1415
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: I got the first one more right. The Seahawks' defensive

1416
01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:07,200
Speaker 3: performance was not only was not a fluke, but chapter

1417
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 3: one of a top five defense. There's six overall.

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01:06:10,480 --> 01:06:13,920
Speaker 5: Right now, Well, I liked what I saw, and you

1419
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 5: saw me I did. I wrote a really long text

1420
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,880
Speaker 5: to these guys. Normally I don't get a response. He

1421
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,640
Speaker 5: ensues it like a heart or thumbs up, no comment

1422
01:06:22,800 --> 01:06:27,400
Speaker 5: back and the FA. But no, but your comment was

1423
01:06:27,480 --> 01:06:31,320
Speaker 5: so good. He was very excited about my comment.

1424
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,080
Speaker 4: But I was, man. I literally had goosebumps watching the film.

1425
01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,880
Speaker 4: I mean, I can't believe how good they are.

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01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:40,160
Speaker 3: I don't you know.

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Speaker 5: Again, I would say, statistics are hard because so much

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01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:46,240
Speaker 5: depends on who you play and fourth quarters mop up,

1429
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,440
Speaker 5: dudeything like I'm telling you right now, we'll play like

1430
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 5: the top five defense.

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01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:53,600
Speaker 4: We'll play like it. We're complete team. I think we

1432
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,320
Speaker 4: will get pressure this week.

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01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:57,400
Speaker 5: I'm curious, can we stop the run consistently when someone

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:06:59,880
Speaker 5: says I'm going to run the football, yeah, that'll be.

1435
01:07:00,280 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 5: But I felt like we did that in crunch time

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01:07:02,360 --> 01:07:08,520
Speaker 5: last night. I'm gonna say, oh, man, I'm gonna say yeah, right,

1437
01:07:08,560 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 5: I think we got to coach for it. I think

1438
01:07:10,280 --> 01:07:11,880
Speaker 5: we got the desire for it, and I think the

1439
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 5: upgrades that we brought in this year, the two safeties

1440
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:19,440
Speaker 5: are two linebackers, and getting Murphy in the draft, we

1441
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:21,440
Speaker 5: are a top five.

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01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:26,080
Speaker 3: Defense right now. They're number six. Well they end the

1443
01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:31,440
Speaker 3: top five. I have three kids. One is fourteen, one

1444
01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,840
Speaker 3: is twelve, one is ten, and I'm hard on my

1445
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,040
Speaker 3: fourteen year old man. He has a good game, I

1446
01:07:36,080 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 3: go approve it. Next week he has another good game,

1447
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:41,720
Speaker 3: I go, I need three days. He has another good game,

1448
01:07:41,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 3: I go, is this you or is this something that

1449
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,800
Speaker 3: is gonna show up every now and then? And I

1450
01:07:45,880 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 3: think that's how I feel about the defense right now.

1451
01:07:48,160 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: Just like my son. I believe he can stack the days,

1452
01:07:51,000 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 3: stack the weeks, but I want to motivate him and

1453
01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 3: make sure he doesn't get comfortable. That's the way I'm

1454
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 3: looking at this team right now. I go, all right, yeah,

1455
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:02,000
Speaker 3: one week down, you played a rookie quarterback. All right,

1456
01:08:02,040 --> 01:08:05,120
Speaker 3: next week you're playing the veteran quarterback who's typically a backup.

1457
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,439
Speaker 3: He started forty nine out of eighty games at Jacoby Brisse.

1458
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:11,320
Speaker 3: You need to show me a month of good football

1459
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:14,800
Speaker 3: before I tap in and say, yes, this is a

1460
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:18,080
Speaker 3: top five defense. They have top five potential in my opinion,

1461
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:22,120
Speaker 3: but right now, no, I'm keeping them hungry like my son,

1462
01:08:22,520 --> 01:08:24,880
Speaker 3: Michael pumps go to sleep, Michael, why are you listening

1463
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,800
Speaker 3: to this right now? That's how I'm treating these guys

1464
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 3: like my fourteen year old. I'm gonna keep them hungry

1465
01:08:30,240 --> 01:08:32,160
Speaker 3: and say no, not yet, give me, show me some more.

1466
01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 4: I didn't say, hey, by week eight, can you let

1467
01:08:36,880 --> 01:08:38,240
Speaker 4: me know if they're a top five.

1468
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:40,920
Speaker 3: Defense right now? So no, right now, no, I say no.

1469
01:08:41,080 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 4: You don't think there'll be a top five defense right now?

1470
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:45,120
Speaker 3: I say no, right now.

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01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 4: No, I don't think what I've seen after one week

1472
01:08:48,840 --> 01:08:50,080
Speaker 4: that they'll be after one week.

1473
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:53,120
Speaker 3: After one week, I don't believe anything after one week,

1474
01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:58,160
Speaker 3: I'm encouraged, but to believe, no, I don't believe in anything.

1475
01:08:58,280 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 3: I'm encouraged though.

1476
01:08:59,200 --> 01:09:00,960
Speaker 4: I'm just checking all that's good.

1477
01:09:01,000 --> 01:09:04,080
Speaker 5: So we disagree there, and actually I didn't feel like

1478
01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 5: it made me feel like I was right on there.

1479
01:09:07,360 --> 01:09:10,479
Speaker 5: Look so again, part of my text was I was

1480
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:13,760
Speaker 5: watching Dotson and I said, my god, this guy's Pro Bowl.

1481
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:17,000
Speaker 5: He's Pro Bowl the way he's playing I mean he's relentless,

1482
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,519
Speaker 5: it's that fast, it's that it's that good man.

1483
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:20,800
Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not blowing smoke.

1484
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:23,080
Speaker 5: You guys know I get excited, but this I'm excited about.

1485
01:09:23,360 --> 01:09:26,360
Speaker 5: And I said, well, I go, Julian Love played the

1486
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 5: best game I've seen him play. I mean it was

1487
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,120
Speaker 5: at a whole nother It's the best I've seen a

1488
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 5: safety play since when Earl was at his heyday. I mean,

1489
01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,360
Speaker 5: that's how good he was. Relentless and fast. And then

1490
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:41,880
Speaker 5: I said well, I said, well, wher'spoon. I said, wheerspoon man.

1491
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 4: That guy that's the pro bowler right there. And I said, well, Wooling.

1492
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:47,200
Speaker 5: The way he was covering and by the way their

1493
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 5: scores how they ranked him are warning Again, I think

1494
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:54,600
Speaker 5: we got Mathey. If you keep giving him some opportunities,

1495
01:09:54,720 --> 01:09:57,200
Speaker 5: is going to cast some boat. So here's my question.

1496
01:09:57,840 --> 01:09:59,720
Speaker 5: There's so many good guys on this team right now.

1497
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:01,599
Speaker 5: This he actually have at least and this is hard

1498
01:10:01,640 --> 01:10:03,960
Speaker 5: to do. This ain't Pro Bowl, this is all pro.

1499
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:07,120
Speaker 5: This is the best at your position. We'll have at

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01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 5: least one All Pro in the first or make it

1501
01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,200
Speaker 5: easier or second team on this defense.

1502
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 3: By season out all right, So we're clearly leaning on

1503
01:10:16,720 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 3: the defense right now. Just well we are, I mean

1504
01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:20,799
Speaker 3: going off the first.

1505
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 4: Week, well crossing there too.

1506
01:10:23,439 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 3: So this team, this team to have one All Pro

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01:10:27,320 --> 01:10:29,720
Speaker 3: All Pro. Look, well, I'm just gonna lean on the

1508
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 3: defense because they're the ones who performed the best. But

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01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:36,000
Speaker 3: to your credit, Charles Cross balled out Sodi Connor Williams.

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01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,960
Speaker 3: I think they both played well. But I'm looking at

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01:10:38,000 --> 01:10:42,599
Speaker 3: the defense. I'm looking at Jay Love, I'm looking at Jenkins, Jenkins,

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01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:46,440
Speaker 3: I'm looking at and please Trey Brown's not in the conversation,

1513
01:10:46,840 --> 01:10:49,160
Speaker 3: but he's going to be so solid for this football team.

1514
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,320
Speaker 3: I'm looking at even cat Kat could have himself a year.

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01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 3: He was here half a year last year. And the

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01:10:55,560 --> 01:10:58,080
Speaker 3: way he talked about Seattle, he loves Seattle. Man. I

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01:10:58,120 --> 01:10:59,880
Speaker 3: heard him speak to I don't know who it was

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:02,800
Speaker 3: on TV and he loves Seattle. I'm gonna say, yeah,

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01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 3: I think this is the year.

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01:11:04,920 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 7: Once.

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01:11:05,160 --> 01:11:06,640
Speaker 3: The last time they had All Pro had to be

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01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:07,840
Speaker 3: Bobby two years back.

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01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 4: Look and again, yeah again, there was a time when

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01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 4: Bobby made All Pro. He was All Pro. He was

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01:11:15,400 --> 01:11:17,880
Speaker 4: the best at what he did. Last couple of times

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01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:19,719
Speaker 4: he was not the best at what he did. Yeah,

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01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:22,599
Speaker 4: we have look Charles Cross.

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01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 5: If he plays the way he played in that first

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01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:27,800
Speaker 5: game all season, he will make He'll make the Pro Bowl,

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01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 5: He'll make the Pro Bowl.

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01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:30,960
Speaker 4: All pros man. It's just so tough.

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01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:33,439
Speaker 5: I mean, he got Trent Williams just his name. It's

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01:11:33,479 --> 01:11:36,360
Speaker 5: gonna be hard to unseat him. I think we're gonna

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01:11:36,360 --> 01:11:39,960
Speaker 5: get one. But I will say this, I think we're

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01:11:40,000 --> 01:11:42,080
Speaker 5: gonna get five or six Pro Bowlers.

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01:11:42,200 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm about to say all Pro now I'm talking

1537
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 3: about the greatest defensive all time.

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01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:48,479
Speaker 5: No, but I think we could have three secondary guys.

1539
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 5: I think Jenkins is gonna be in the mix. I think,

1540
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 5: you know again, Dotson's gonna be in there. You know,

1541
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 5: we'll see who gets some sacks if they get it.

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01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:59,280
Speaker 5: But I think I think Charles Cross will walking away. Okay,

1543
01:11:59,320 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 5: last one real quick?

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01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:00,559
Speaker 3: All right?

1545
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:01,599
Speaker 4: Or are we done?

1546
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 3: We got time for one?

1547
01:12:04,400 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 5: Charles Cross makes well, No for your dan, I don't

1548
01:12:07,160 --> 01:12:10,519
Speaker 5: forget that. How about this more impressive jump from twenty

1549
01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 5: three to twenty four this year?

1550
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:14,839
Speaker 4: The overall defense or Charles Cross, He's.

1551
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:17,639
Speaker 3: The overall defense. Charles Cross show promise his rookie season.

1552
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:21,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna be fine. This defense has not been up

1553
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,040
Speaker 3: to par for five six years.

1554
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:26,240
Speaker 4: I was disappointed in Charles last year. I don't know

1555
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 4: what got into him.

1556
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 5: You guys, he looks like a completely He looks like

1557
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:30,960
Speaker 5: the guy we drafted what we hoped he would be.

1558
01:12:31,280 --> 01:12:33,519
Speaker 4: Looks like a completely different player.

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01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1560
01:12:33,880 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 4: He was that dominant, He's that quick, he was that strong,

1561
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 4: He looked confident, look athletic. It was impressive. But I'm

1562
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 4: gonna agree. I think the defense I had so many

1563
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 4: oh my god moments that that jump is real.

1564
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 3: Love it all right? That is talk that talk. When

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01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:53,200
Speaker 3: we come back, we'll give you our final thoughts and keys.

1566
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,879
Speaker 3: The victory that is next right here in Hawks Live.

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01:12:58,520 --> 01:13:02,400
Speaker 1: Hawks Slide presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue

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01:13:02,439 --> 01:13:05,560
Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Centric cor live on air on

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01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:06,840
Speaker 1: Seattle Sports.

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Speaker 3: Last segment of a Hawks a Live presented by the

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01:13:11,560 --> 01:13:15,400
Speaker 3: Bellevue Square Dining District of Michael Bumpas with Paul Moyer

1572
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Speaker 3: and the squad. We got a nice crowd here today.

1573
01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:22,080
Speaker 3: We appreciate y'all coming out kicking it with us, having

1574
01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:25,920
Speaker 3: a good time, and he's the victory. I think we

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01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:28,920
Speaker 3: all have our keys. But you and I watch a

1576
01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:31,000
Speaker 3: lot of film. I want to say, I hope they're

1577
01:13:31,040 --> 01:13:34,200
Speaker 3: not listening out of our pre halftime impost me and

1578
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 3: you probably watch the most film. So that's why whenever

1579
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 3: you send me a text like I literally go out,

1580
01:13:39,800 --> 01:13:41,040
Speaker 3: go back and I look at it. I go, Okay,

1581
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:43,320
Speaker 3: let me see what he's talking about. Every now and

1582
01:13:43,360 --> 01:13:44,760
Speaker 3: then I'll see you something like, oh, this is what

1583
01:13:44,840 --> 01:13:49,920
Speaker 3: I'm seeing. But it's healthy conversation. So after watching film,

1584
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,840
Speaker 3: which I know you're gonna watch more of tomorrow and

1585
01:13:51,920 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 3: Saturday before we get going, how do the Hawks get

1586
01:13:55,120 --> 01:13:55,720
Speaker 3: this thing done?

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01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 5: I think we're a better football team than there. I mean,

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01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 5: we're just we're faster defenses. Is a better defense there?

1589
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 4: There?

1590
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:07,560
Speaker 5: They're an interesting defense. Look the way we do this,

1591
01:14:07,680 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 5: I just want to jump on them. Early we played

1592
01:14:11,360 --> 01:14:13,320
Speaker 5: it's until we played horrible as an offense.

1593
01:14:13,320 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 4: The first half.

1594
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,360
Speaker 5: We just had a lot of we had three or

1595
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 5: four plays that just were bad plays that win against us.

1596
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 5: We take those away and get back to what we do.

1597
01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 5: Move the football, score, win the field position, because that

1598
01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:27,320
Speaker 5: was what was important we Our field position was so

1599
01:14:27,439 --> 01:14:30,639
Speaker 5: atrocious the first half. We just couldn't get anything going

1600
01:14:31,880 --> 01:14:36,360
Speaker 5: and then this team with a lead, our defense is

1601
01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:38,439
Speaker 5: going to be scary because we're going to get picks.

1602
01:14:38,479 --> 01:14:42,479
Speaker 4: We get how many passes do we touch? We get

1603
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:43,960
Speaker 4: our hands on a lot of passes.

1604
01:14:45,520 --> 01:14:47,400
Speaker 5: I mean it hit thoughts and right in the hand

1605
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:51,280
Speaker 5: on one Julian Love would have had to we got obviously.

1606
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:55,200
Speaker 5: The one that wool and Jenkins is going to get some.

1607
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:57,679
Speaker 5: There's a couple that they didn't quite trust their read,

1608
01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:00,200
Speaker 5: but they were there. They're going to start trusting the

1609
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 5: break on it. So I think we're a team that's

1610
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 5: gonna create a lot of turnovers when we get a

1611
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 5: quick lead and force them out of their game plan.

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01:15:07,200 --> 01:15:10,519
Speaker 3: This is something I'm looking forward to. The Bengals only

1613
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 3: ran like forty four to forty eight plays the whole game.

1614
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:17,559
Speaker 3: So yes, New England Patriots, they got themselves a victory,

1615
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,760
Speaker 3: but they haven't had to face a lot of adversity

1616
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,640
Speaker 3: and grind it out a little bit and figure some

1617
01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 3: things out. Not saying those guys aren't capable of coaching

1618
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,400
Speaker 3: them up and making sure they're ready for that, but

1619
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:30,599
Speaker 3: they don't know what they don't know, and they haven't

1620
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,640
Speaker 3: felt that. So that's what I'm hoping for and you

1621
01:15:32,720 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 3: know what the equivalent to the twelve flag raiser. We

1622
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 3: have one every time we're at home. You know who's

1623
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,439
Speaker 3: raising their flag in New England, Tom Brady, Malcolm Butler. No,

1624
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:46,800
Speaker 3: they did this on purpose. Malcolm Butler. I forget what

1625
01:15:46,880 --> 01:15:49,880
Speaker 3: it's called. I forget, I forget what it's called. Malcolm Butler,

1626
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:50,800
Speaker 3: is going to be their guys.

1627
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:52,360
Speaker 4: Are they going to ring a bell or something?

1628
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,080
Speaker 3: They're gonna do something.

1629
01:15:53,120 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 4: So they're gonna they're gonna light up an electric razer exactly.

1630
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,479
Speaker 3: And then also you know, they're gonna play a highlight

1631
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:03,320
Speaker 3: on the big screen and everyone's gonna get excited and

1632
01:16:03,400 --> 01:16:07,439
Speaker 3: ready to go. So I hope they take that respect.

1633
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:10,200
Speaker 3: But what's also cool about that, at the same time said,

1634
01:16:10,200 --> 01:16:11,760
Speaker 3: none of these guys on this team were on the

1635
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:14,040
Speaker 3: team when that went down. They were all in middle

1636
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,519
Speaker 3: school or high score or something like that.

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01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:18,880
Speaker 5: I'm gonna use them, use it. I'm gonna love how

1638
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,559
Speaker 5: much these guys respect you even though you weren't here.

1639
01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,680
Speaker 5: They want you to feel like you were at that game. Now,

1640
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 5: let's tell you what. That's a tough place to play.

1641
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 5: It takes a while to get there. It's in Foxboro

1642
01:16:30,680 --> 01:16:33,720
Speaker 5: six hours not in in Boston, I mean, and it's

1643
01:16:33,800 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 5: a two lane highway to go there, so it takes

1644
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:39,560
Speaker 5: a long time, a long bus ride as well, so

1645
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,479
Speaker 5: they're gonna have to get ready to an early game.

1646
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:43,160
Speaker 4: But we are gonna win this soccer.

1647
01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:47,559
Speaker 3: Let's go get it. Malcolm Butler, I fight them right now.

1648
01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:49,240
Speaker 3: If I now, I'm just flaying. Michaelmann.

1649
01:16:49,240 --> 01:16:51,599
Speaker 4: You're here fighting. You wear them out, and I'm there.

1650
01:16:51,640 --> 01:16:52,559
Speaker 4: If you can't get them.

1651
01:16:52,479 --> 01:16:54,080
Speaker 3: There, we go. Okay, we'll get it. We'll get them.

1652
01:16:54,120 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 3: We have them, give them a couple of drinks, hey man.

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Speaker 3: Thank you guys for coming out man, and special things

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Speaker 3: to Jake bobbo aj Barne for joining the show. Our

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Speaker 3: board operators Max Strubble, on site engineers the lovely Brendan Rodgers.

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Speaker 3: Production assistant is Ashley Oaks, and our executive producer is

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Speaker 3: Nasa Toby. The Seahawks pregame show is live this Sunday

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Speaker 3: starting at seven a m. Until next time, this has

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Speaker 3: been Hawkslives. Thank you guys,