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Speaker 1: You know, Paul, because of the opportunity, of course, I
Speaker 1: think the first two picks in the Arizona Cardinals twenty
Speaker 1: twenty three draft really will contribute an awful lot this season.
Speaker 1: I think Paris Johnson Junior, of course, especially at left guard.
Speaker 1: I think that's where they're gonna start him off, and
Speaker 1: I think that's where he's gonna be until maybe somebody
Speaker 1: gets hurt or goes down at some point that could
Speaker 1: change everything. But I think he's going to see an
Speaker 1: awful lot of action. And I think Bjoglari as well
Speaker 1: is going to see a lot of action. Those two guys,
Speaker 1: I think are going to be able to contribute their
Speaker 1: rookie year. How much into what degree, I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, what.
Speaker 4: I want to see. I want to see those two
Speaker 4: going against each other mana wemano O line D line
Speaker 4: drills in camp in August, sort of like once upon
Speaker 4: a time.
Speaker 1: D J.
Speaker 4: Humprey's got a lot better going against Chandler Jones. I
Speaker 4: want to see that as a regular thing. B Joe
Speaker 4: Glari against Paris Johnson Junior. We'll ask him about that. Well,
Speaker 4: you know what else, We're gonna ask him which QB
Speaker 4: he wants to sack the most in the NFL, because
Speaker 4: a year ago at this time, mi Ja Sanders answered
Speaker 4: that question immediately and he said Tom Brady. So we'll
Speaker 4: ask b Joe Gelori about that. Why he whar's the
Speaker 4: number eighteen? What sort of legacy that has with LSU
Speaker 4: And he also has royalty in his family tree. We're
Speaker 4: going to get into that as well. But off the top,
Speaker 4: here we go.
Speaker 2: Wolf.
Speaker 4: They had the rookie mini camp speaking of Paris Johnson
Speaker 4: Junior in bj Ojelori and the question of Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 4: here this time of year is okay, how much exactly
Speaker 4: are you going to throw at the rookies?
Speaker 5: We treat him like pros, you know, and they're gonna
Speaker 5: have to get caught up, and they know that, you know,
Speaker 5: every guy's a little bit different how you install, on
Speaker 5: how you teach and what they can handle. So we're
Speaker 5: kind of just figuring that out first time with you know,
Speaker 5: being in the building and being in meetings with him
Speaker 5: things like that. So, but they know that the pace
Speaker 5: is going to go. The pace is the pace. So
Speaker 5: they got to get caught up and submerge with the
Speaker 5: vets and get caught up pretty quick.
Speaker 4: And if you don't keep up, Wolf, then really you
Speaker 4: have no chance, right because I mean, the coaches first
Speaker 4: and foremost have to be able to trust you in
Speaker 4: the scheme, in the playbook.
Speaker 1: Just Bully. The more things change in the NFL, the
Speaker 1: more they stay the same. And that is certainly the
Speaker 1: case when you're talking about a rookie coming into the
Speaker 1: National Football League, and what a shock it truly is.
Speaker 1: All the different schemes, the complexity of the schemes, of course,
Speaker 1: and it's a different game from college. You've heard me
Speaker 1: talk about this for years, Bully, but it really is
Speaker 1: the truth. The only analogy that suffices. For the most part,
Speaker 1: College football is a game of checkers, where the NFL
Speaker 1: is a game of chess. It truly is much more strategic,
Speaker 1: much more complex. You've got to apply yourself, You've got
Speaker 1: to work at your job when you're a rookie trying
Speaker 1: to learn these schemes, because Paulie, think about it, If
Speaker 1: you don't know what to do, what chance do you
Speaker 1: really have? Even if you think, Paulie, even if you
Speaker 1: think like I think I know what I'm doing on this,
Speaker 1: you want to be convicted. You want to be sure
Speaker 1: that you know what you're doing in it, not just
Speaker 1: guessing at whether you're doing the right thing. But if
Speaker 1: you can't, if you can't conceptualize it, you're not going
Speaker 1: to be able to execute it.
Speaker 4: Because not only do you have to know your assignment
Speaker 4: and know it cold, but guess what, you have to
Speaker 4: know it when going against Oh, I don't know the
Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's of the world, right, the Sean mcgaye of
Speaker 4: the world. And what do they try and do They
Speaker 4: try and confuse you. They try and make you a
Speaker 4: half step slow by showing you various things that make
Speaker 4: you think before you react. And to your point, there's
Speaker 4: no worse way to look slow on a football field
Speaker 4: than if you're thinking instead of playing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauline, not only that too, stop and think about this.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of different responsibilities that you might
Speaker 1: have on one given call. One call, but based on
Speaker 1: how they come out to the personnel group, the formation
Speaker 1: they're in, and the play they actually run, it might
Speaker 1: change your assignment, paul So not only do you need
Speaker 1: to know what you're doing on the play call, you
Speaker 1: also need to know the five or six or seven
Speaker 1: adjustments that come off it.
Speaker 4: So like, for example, you know what I think of
Speaker 4: when you talk about all that. I think of the
Speaker 4: Cardinals signing Kaizer White. I think of bringing in a
Speaker 4: guy who knows Gannon's defense. Yeah, has run it for
Speaker 4: several years. I'm guessing they're gonna give him the green dot.
Speaker 4: That was Zamon Collins, an outside linebacker. And guess what,
Speaker 4: trust your eyes, he's an outside linebacker until we see differently,
Speaker 4: if Kayzer White is calling this defense, well that makes
Speaker 4: a lot of sense. He is the quarterback of the D.
Speaker 4: He's the guy who knows Gannon's defensive playbook.
Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, No, I think you're right about that. Again.
Speaker 1: Zavan Collins, he's going to be an outside linebacker. They're
Speaker 1: going to put him on the edge. I really do
Speaker 1: see this. I could see the Philadelphia Eagles defense being
Speaker 1: here where they covered the interior three offensive lineman right
Speaker 1: to the center and both guards. They covered him with
Speaker 1: three techniques right there and then had two edge guys
Speaker 1: and then one line that being Kaiser White behind that.
Speaker 1: It was a six man box, but it was a
Speaker 1: different construction of that six man box for the most part.
Speaker 1: I could see that being a base defense for this
Speaker 1: team going forward. Right.
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon was also asked about positional flexibility on guys
Speaker 4: learning multiple positions. You know the old pair and a spare. Well,
Speaker 4: here's JG on that.
Speaker 5: You know, our guys understand the value of playing multiple spots.
Speaker 5: You know, I got trained at a young age a
Speaker 5: pair and a spare. You always got to have different
Speaker 5: guys be able to play different spots, and ultimately you're
Speaker 5: trying to do what's best for the team and for
Speaker 5: the best for the player too. So we got a
Speaker 5: long time to figure that out, but that's what we're doing.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Where do you think Isaiah Simmons is going to play?
Speaker 4: I ask, almost rhetorically, this is almost a weekly question.
Speaker 4: Do you what would the edge really?
Speaker 1: I think once again, that's zab and Collins and that's
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. You're two inside guys. I could see them
Speaker 1: being the edge, Paul. That's where I and again it's
Speaker 1: I think JG is talking about not moving Isaiah Simmons
Speaker 1: all over the place. I could be wrong on that,
Speaker 1: poly but I think he's talking more about a player
Speaker 1: being willing to be moved and it goes somewhere and
Speaker 1: to try to help the team. That's what I think
Speaker 1: he's talking about. And if he is, if I'm correct
Speaker 1: on that, I think he's talking about Zaban Collins and
Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons doing what they need to do to maybe
Speaker 1: take that next step in their careers.
Speaker 4: Because if you look at the safety depth on this
Speaker 4: depth chart right now, there's not a lot behind a
Speaker 4: Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson right so I could
Speaker 4: theoretically see Isaiah Simmons in the safety room. Again. Now,
Speaker 4: as of right now, moments ago I checked the Cardinals website,
Speaker 4: he's still listed it as an inside linebacker. Now that's
Speaker 4: just a regular roster, that's not a jet chart, you know,
Speaker 4: installed by the team or anything or the coaches. That
Speaker 4: is I bring this up also becau. Did you see
Speaker 4: what dan Quinn said this week about Micah Parsons. Micah
Speaker 4: Parsons had tweeted out within the last week that he's
Speaker 4: using the offseason to bulk up, gained some weight, and
Speaker 4: to prepare for a full time pass rusher role. Now
Speaker 4: dan Quinn sort of shot that down a little bit
Speaker 4: with the media because he was asked about that when
Speaker 4: he met the media instead of Mike McCarthy was out
Speaker 4: getting like back surgery or something, so the media was
Speaker 4: all over him and he called him dan Quinn Michael
Speaker 4: Parsons quote a pass rushing linebacker, and I immediately immediately
Speaker 4: thought of Isaiah Simmons. The question is, could an Isaiah Simmons,
Speaker 4: in your opinion, maybe bulk up a little bit to
Speaker 4: be more equipped for the edge and to hold the
Speaker 4: point against the run.
Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, he could, PAULI, there's no doubt he could.
Speaker 1: But you know, I don't really know how much he's
Speaker 1: got to bulk up on that one. I really don't.
Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get a first hand look, obviously, we're
Speaker 1: gonna see if he's going to be able to do that,
Speaker 1: But a lot of setting the edge, Paul is really
Speaker 1: coming from the inside. It's more like setting your soul,
Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, set the edge by
Speaker 1: set your soul and make sure you're being stiff at
Speaker 1: the point of attack and you are setting that edge.
Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Simmons once he knows exactly and this
Speaker 1: is the reason why PAULI I continue to talk about this,
Speaker 1: but why I would leave him at one position. You
Speaker 1: need to know what is expected of you in every situation,
Speaker 1: against every offense, against every formation, against every personnel group.
Speaker 1: You need to know what is expected of you on
Speaker 1: every play that you're gonna call. And that is the
Speaker 1: reason why you can demand from a player right do
Speaker 1: your job because you know what it is you have
Speaker 1: to do. But when you start moving guys all over
Speaker 1: the place, now it becomes cloudy.
Speaker 4: So I'm going to go full circle in this segment.
Speaker 4: NFL dot Com today, as I go back to the
Speaker 4: NFL website, they have a story thirty two teams thirty
Speaker 4: two needs is the headline top remaining offseason priority for
Speaker 4: each team? What do you think they listed for the
Speaker 4: Cardinals to Well, did you read the article? Yeah, they
Speaker 4: listed they listed get what you can for d hop
Speaker 4: immediately to which I totally disagree, because you know, some
Speaker 4: team's going to get to training camp and realize that
Speaker 4: the rookie receiver they drafted ain't all that in a
Speaker 4: bag of chips, and maybe we should get something in
Speaker 4: someone who's proven so wide receiver. All right, So here's
Speaker 4: a discovery report on bg O Jalari. His ability to
Speaker 4: bend the edge makes him the best prospect in the
Speaker 4: class in this area. Hello, we're going to talk to
Speaker 4: the Cardinals round two rookie pass rusher. As we continue
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Speaker 6: With the forty first pick and the twenty twenty three draft,
Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals select bj Old Jelori linebacker lsu.
Speaker 7: I love what Ojai can do in the pass and
Speaker 7: run game. I think he's a very natural pass rusher.
Speaker 7: You can see his bend coming off the edge with speed.
Speaker 8: He can beat you his speed.
Speaker 7: He's very fluid and natural with his counter rushes. And
Speaker 7: then on top of that, he can stick a long
Speaker 7: arm in there and moves off his long arm. So
Speaker 7: as far as his rush ability, very versatile, very natural.
Speaker 7: And then I love the tools that he has in
Speaker 7: the run game.
Speaker 4: His new Cardinals defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis on the Cardinals
Speaker 4: New edge guy, the new weapon getting after the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And we'll get to the fact that, yes, that was
Speaker 4: the voice of Cardinals Hall of Famer, a legend, the
Speaker 4: Ring of Honor guy a Nias Williams, a Louisiana guy
Speaker 4: by the way. But we love to speak the language
Speaker 4: of pass rushing here on the Big Red Rig. Okay,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, getting after the quarterback. I know
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon is fond of the phrase rush and crush.
Speaker 4: There's a dip and rip that's a good one. Bend
Speaker 4: the edge, like you know, some of my favorite football
Speaker 4: terms are when it comes to pass rushing. You know
Speaker 4: you're here, They're the you know, speed to power and
Speaker 4: then you hear Nick rallis the long arm stab. And it's
Speaker 4: even better when we're talking with bj Ojealari himself, the
Speaker 4: Cardinals new pass rusher here on the Big Red Rage, BJ,
Speaker 4: how we doing.
Speaker 8: I'm doing great?
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 8: You definitely cover pass rap perfectly right there.
Speaker 4: What do you what's your favorite term when it comes
Speaker 4: to pass rushing? You know, I mean, is there anything
Speaker 4: that stands out. When you're talking about the art of
Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback, what do you like to talk
Speaker 4: about the most.
Speaker 9: Really diffing and Riven being the guy off the edge.
Speaker 9: That's one of my favorite things to do. Like you said,
Speaker 9: pass rushers are and that's where I think I can
Speaker 9: display my best talents right there.
Speaker 4: So we heard the moment right where your name was called.
Speaker 4: And when you go back to the TV copy, and
Speaker 4: I love the fam cam right because you were right
Speaker 4: at you were like at the epicenter of a v right. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you're a family there left all of the right. And
Speaker 4: then when you go to the phone call in the
Speaker 4: war room from Manti Austin for the GM, you couldn't
Speaker 4: even hear him. What was that like? It was like
Speaker 4: bedlam in your house?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was. I was so in shock.
Speaker 9: Everyone else was so excited, and I'm just there, almost frozen.
Speaker 8: I'm trying to listen to the call.
Speaker 9: I'm trying to respond say yes, sir, you know it
Speaker 9: was just a moment, he said, just you know, enjoyed
Speaker 9: his moment with your family.
Speaker 8: We're gonna call you back because he is.
Speaker 4: A moment you had been working and striving for for
Speaker 4: probably over a decade, right, I mean that's the moment
Speaker 4: where I'm guessing a lifelong dream is realized.
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, most definitely. That's why it's just so shocking
Speaker 9: that the time actually came. You know, it's like once
Speaker 9: you're eight years old, now now it's time to get drafted.
Speaker 9: So it's a definitely a great process and a great
Speaker 9: moment is just to take in.
Speaker 4: What's it been like ever since? Has it been a blur?
Speaker 4: Have had things slowed down a little bit for you? Yeah,
Speaker 4: it's been a blur.
Speaker 9: Like after you know, two three days after the draft,
Speaker 9: things are starting to slow down.
Speaker 8: We're Arizona.
Speaker 9: Now we're with the team, with the coaches, so things
Speaker 9: are starting to slow down, start to be more clear,
Speaker 9: getting to know the Vets in the locker room.
Speaker 8: So it's definitely getting to slow down. And it makes
Speaker 8: sense now.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you went from rookie mini camp and we're on
Speaker 4: board with bj O Gilardi the Cardinals second round pick
Speaker 4: number forty one. Overall the Vets show up. Did the
Speaker 4: compete level go up a notch or two when those
Speaker 4: guys showed up?
Speaker 9: Yeah, it's definitely a competitive environment, but all of them
Speaker 9: are taking me under their wing. All the guys in
Speaker 9: the alshide linebacker groom are doing a great job, you know,
Speaker 9: just teaching me the rope, teaching me how it is
Speaker 9: to you know, come into the NFL. What I have
Speaker 9: to do, you know, to stay in the NFL and
Speaker 9: contribute to this team.
Speaker 4: Because you heard from Cam Thomas and my j Sanders
Speaker 4: right off the bat, didn't you, Yes, sir? And what
Speaker 4: sort of I don't know, what sort of friendly advice
Speaker 4: are you getting because those guys just went through the
Speaker 4: rookie process themselves. What are you hearing from some of
Speaker 4: the guys who have been there and done that?
Speaker 9: Really just getting that playbook, Understand the defense, understand the calls,
Speaker 9: understand what's asked of me, being able to diagnose plays formations,
Speaker 9: getting in on special teams as well, being able to
Speaker 9: contribute on there, and you know, accent doing everything the
Speaker 9: coach acts of me.
Speaker 4: So all we've seen to you was rookie minniicamp right
Speaker 4: the media that is, and and you were the only
Speaker 4: guy out there in your position group for the most part.
Speaker 4: So what sort of scouter report would you give on yourself?
Speaker 9: So for myself, you know, coming into the NFL, definitely
Speaker 9: a guy who's the natural pass rusher can bend as
Speaker 9: you speed to power. Great speed rushes can also understand drops,
Speaker 9: getting into drops and zones and be used in coverage
Speaker 9: as well. Definitely great movement along the line to create
Speaker 9: you know, TFLs and really just a high motor player.
Speaker 4: Was there anything that well, come on, now, there's got
Speaker 4: to be right. Every player who's coming after the draft,
Speaker 4: you know, overall time have said, you know what, there
Speaker 4: are things about my scottery report I heard from the
Speaker 4: mel Kiper's and Todd mcshay's of the world that irritated me.
Speaker 4: What were some of the things that maybe were out
Speaker 4: there that you know, you maybe didn't agree with or
Speaker 4: maybe it's gonna stick with you through your playing career.
Speaker 9: Yeah, just not being able to play the run. You
Speaker 9: know a lot of people said I wasn't able to
Speaker 9: play the run. I think in college I definitely been
Speaker 9: at an upward progression of playing a run. This last year,
Speaker 9: I think I put on the weight with striking blocks, sends, hard,
Speaker 9: good edges. So that's something that I think that I
Speaker 9: did good. But I can definitely improve on everything in
Speaker 9: my game.
Speaker 4: When you were at LSU, you wore number eighteen. Right,
Speaker 4: we're packed twelve country out here. So tell us about
Speaker 4: the significance of earning the honor of wearing eighteen. What
Speaker 4: does that mean within the LSU legacy.
Speaker 9: Yeah, eighteen is a coveted number, is given to the
Speaker 9: best all around player on and.
Speaker 8: Off the field.
Speaker 9: It really just speaks to testimentier leadership, the way you
Speaker 9: handle yourself, your character, your academics as well, and just
Speaker 9: the whole package. Just a great example for the you guys,
Speaker 9: and you're the one who's the face of the team.
Speaker 9: You're represented the state of Louisiana and your whole team.
Speaker 9: So it's definitely a blessing and a great for your legacy,
Speaker 9: just to be able to represent all the number eighteens
Speaker 9: that came before me. So how cool was it that
Speaker 9: eighteen's available for the Cardinals. Yeah, it's a blessing just
Speaker 9: to be able to carry on that tradition. Eighteen is
Speaker 9: a special number to me, special to Louisiana LSU. So
Speaker 9: it's definitely, you know, something that I was blessed and
Speaker 9: I'm very grateful for the Arizona Cardinals to let me work.
Speaker 8: I'm eighteen And.
Speaker 4: For those who haven't seen it, you go to bg
Speaker 4: O Jilard's Twitter page. In the background is number fifty
Speaker 4: six Lawrence Taylor with the New York Giants. That was
Speaker 4: pretty cool to see. I mean, tell us about that.
Speaker 4: Does that anything to do with the fact that your
Speaker 4: brother plays for the Giants or were you already a
Speaker 4: fan before your brother was drafted a couple of years ago.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was already a fan.
Speaker 9: I remember I was probably in middle school, high school,
Speaker 9: and I saw Lawrence Taylor of Football Life on NFL Network,
Speaker 9: and I just immediately had a gravitation to the way
Speaker 9: he played, his dominance and just you know, everything he
Speaker 9: stood for on the field. So I just wanted to
Speaker 9: put that as my banner, just to you know, what
Speaker 9: I represent on the field and what I can bring
Speaker 9: in the pass.
Speaker 8: Us and just a dominance in the game.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to find a bigger force than Lawrence Taylor.
Speaker 4: Our co host and the show run woefully battled him
Speaker 4: twice a year. Okay, off the edge I had to
Speaker 4: try and block Lawrence Taylor and all the guys who
Speaker 4: I mean, just the reverence the former players talk about
Speaker 4: in trying to go after Lawrence Taylor, and the key
Speaker 4: they say was just don't make them mad, because if
Speaker 4: he did, you were doomed. That's basically the way it went. Now,
Speaker 4: your brother a ZZ plays for the Giants. How instrumental
Speaker 4: has he been in your career maybe taking this next
Speaker 4: step from college to the pros.
Speaker 9: Very you know, he's the blueprint looking up to him,
Speaker 9: seeing what he had to do to get to this
Speaker 9: level that we're both at now. So he basically just
Speaker 9: laid the foundation for me to follow and just one
Speaker 9: day exceed.
Speaker 4: He said, what thirteen and a half sacks his first
Speaker 4: two years. He's had a great start to his NFL career.
Speaker 4: What was it like growing up? I mean, how much
Speaker 4: rough housing was there in theo jel Are household? How
Speaker 4: many lamps did you guys break when you were kids.
Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a lot of rough housing, a lot
Speaker 9: of broken lamps, tables, chairs, But you know, I just
Speaker 9: think it made us, you know, closer together, had a
Speaker 9: better bond, you know, growing up. That's one of my
Speaker 9: best friends now, so it's definitely great to have him
Speaker 9: in my life.
Speaker 4: No, that's great here, and you went to LSU in
Speaker 4: part because he went to Georgia, right, weren't you trying
Speaker 4: to sort of carve your own niche.
Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I was trying to, you know, go on
Speaker 9: my own path, carve my own legacy. LSU was the
Speaker 9: best choice for me. He supported that decision. He wanted
Speaker 9: me to come to Georgia, but you know, I just
Speaker 9: had different plans and different aspirations.
Speaker 4: How do you like to be coached? I read where
Speaker 4: one of the questions that players will get at the
Speaker 4: combine is in those fifteen minute speed dating interviews the
Speaker 4: Laska player. You know, how do you want to be coached?
Speaker 4: How can we get the best out of you? What
Speaker 4: would your answer be to that?
Speaker 9: I think I'm very able. I can adapt to any
Speaker 9: style of coaching. In my opinion, I definitely like to
Speaker 9: be taught be able to relay the information and translate
Speaker 9: it to the field. But I think I'm very versatile
Speaker 9: and understanding what the coaching points are and how the
Speaker 9: coaching style is to be able to maximize my opportunity
Speaker 9: and maximize my play.
Speaker 4: Some of these Skunn reports say you'd like to use
Speaker 4: a hesitation move to set up the offensive lineman. Is
Speaker 4: that accurate? And is there anything else that's maybe sort
Speaker 4: of signature about your game or specific to you?
Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely use hesitations, you know, fakes flashes, just
Speaker 9: to give different looks, you know, stop offensive lineman feet,
Speaker 9: you know, just anything to help me get the edge.
Speaker 1: Mi J.
Speaker 4: Sanders said in here a year ago about this exact time,
Speaker 4: and I said, give me the name of a quarterback
Speaker 4: you would really like to sack in the NFL. I
Speaker 4: didn't even finish this sentence. BJ and he's he's he
Speaker 4: boarded out Tom Brady, okay, and he gets he got
Speaker 4: to play against Tom Brady last year. Is there an
Speaker 4: NFL quarterback? Oh man, it would be meaningful for you
Speaker 4: to take down.
Speaker 9: Uh yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks really. Of course
Speaker 9: not my number one would have been Tom Brady as well.
Speaker 9: But you know, you always want to sack the greats,
Speaker 9: one of the best in the league, the Joe Burrows,
Speaker 9: the Josh Allens, Jalen Hers and of course Patrick Mahomes.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that would be cool, no doubt. B jo Jelai,
Speaker 4: our guest on The Big Red Rage presenter by Santan
Speaker 4: Ford and Gilbert. How about the fact that you have
Speaker 4: Will Anderson already being told that he's gonna have his
Speaker 4: hand in the dirt with Houston they're changing things up
Speaker 4: for him. How do you think you'll be used in
Speaker 4: this Nick Rawles defense.
Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna be more of a stand up
Speaker 9: sam jack outside linebacker role, just be able to use
Speaker 9: me in space, use my versatility to help contribute to
Speaker 9: the defense.
Speaker 4: How much you think you're gonna follow the will Andersons,
Speaker 4: the Tyree Wilson's, you know, Lucas fan s, Will McDonald,
Speaker 4: all those guys who went in Round one. How much
Speaker 4: you think you'll follow that mean? How much I does
Speaker 4: it fire you up? Maybe since you went the top
Speaker 4: around two.
Speaker 9: H Yeah, it's definitely those guys. We all trained together,
Speaker 9: so they're good friends of mine. You know, I'm wishing
Speaker 9: the best for them. But it's definitely gonna be a
Speaker 9: competition not with just them, but everyone around the league.
Speaker 9: All the best pass rushers in the league. Is gonna
Speaker 9: be a competition with them, my brother as well. So
Speaker 9: it's gonna be a great season just to be able
Speaker 9: to compete with, you know, my teammates and all the
Speaker 9: other rushers in the league.
Speaker 4: Because the stat that stands out to us that since
Speaker 4: twenty twenty, according to Pro Football Focus, you had one
Speaker 4: hundred and twenty six quarterback pressures and that was second
Speaker 4: only to Will Anderson. Some have called you underrated in
Speaker 4: falling to the top round two. What do you think?
Speaker 9: I'll definitely say that's kind of accurate in my opinion,
Speaker 9: but I'm gonna play to my value. I think I
Speaker 9: should have, you know, probably went a little higher, but
Speaker 9: I'm definitely still gonna play to that value. And you know,
Speaker 9: I just and so appreciate of the Arizona Cornals giving
Speaker 9: me opportunity, and I just want to be able to
Speaker 9: maximize that and give them everything I have.
Speaker 4: If an Arizona treated you so far, have you seen
Speaker 4: a scorpion or a rattlesnake or anything yet?
Speaker 9: Nah, I haven't seen none of that, and I you know,
Speaker 9: I hope not to see none of that.
Speaker 4: How about the heat versus Louisiana? What do you what
Speaker 4: do you think so far?
Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to say because they're saying Arizona
Speaker 9: gets in the one twenties when eighteen, So.
Speaker 4: At the worst, at the worst, that'll be the worst.
Speaker 4: That'll that'll be when everything bottoms out.
Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So you know Louisiana is real humid. You know,
Speaker 9: you can you can almost cut the air, it's hard
Speaker 9: to breathe. So, but one twenty is still one twenties,
Speaker 9: so I'm gonna see how how that compares.
Speaker 4: So when you google you up, bjo Jolai, we notice
Speaker 4: that there's royalty in your family tree that if I'm
Speaker 4: reading this right, you're the grandson of a Nigerian prince,
Speaker 4: descendant of a king. Tell us about that.
Speaker 10: Uh?
Speaker 9: Yeah, So my grandfather on my mother's side, his name
Speaker 9: is twenty seven seven. He's a he's a set of
Speaker 9: seven twins.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: He's very known in Nigeria back at home, a great artist.
Speaker 9: This musician traveled the world performing. Uh he still has
Speaker 9: arts and you know, certain museums and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: But yeah, he was very well known, very recognized. So
Speaker 9: that's another thing. Very prideful family and just being able
Speaker 9: to represent, you know, the last name of of my
Speaker 9: mom's family and my father's family.
Speaker 4: That's outstanding. Can you play an instrument yourself or can
Speaker 4: you draw?
Speaker 1: Nah?
Speaker 9: All the all the artistic and music side went to
Speaker 9: my sisters. We just played ball.
Speaker 4: What are you most curious about in the NFL BJ,
Speaker 4: I mean, what do you really want? I mean, you're
Speaker 4: not probaly gonna be able to fight out until game day.
Speaker 4: But what do you want to know about this league
Speaker 4: that you haven't found out yet?
Speaker 9: I just I just want to know what it feels
Speaker 9: like to be on the mountaintop, to win a super Bowl,
Speaker 9: to compete with the best, to be considered one of
Speaker 9: the best. That's really what it is for me, building
Speaker 9: my legacy to hopefully become one of the best, one
Speaker 9: of the coveted players in the league.
Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we look forward to seeing you
Speaker 4: against Paris Johnson Junior in camp. I have a feeling
Speaker 4: that Iron's gonna sharpen iron, that you guys are gonna
Speaker 4: make each other better. Yes, sir, that's gonna be some
Speaker 4: good stuff. Well, look from Death Valley to the Valley
Speaker 4: of the Sun. Welcome, Welcome to the Arizona Cardinals. It
Speaker 4: was great to have you. Thanks Pja, thank you. All Right,
Speaker 4: there you go talking a little pass rushing there with
Speaker 4: a Cardinal's second round pick. We'll continue with this edition
Speaker 4: of the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and
Speaker 4: Gilbert We are santan.
Speaker 2: Ford Tune end zone. Got it back there, touchdown.
Speaker 3: The Carter two looking along for the tank heat the
Speaker 3: room inside of.
Speaker 2: The ten first in gold Tune. Look at first fifth
Speaker 2: touchdown pass? Does he have it? Does he have it?
Speaker 2: You bet he does.
Speaker 4: The Cougars get another one from their star quarterback, Clayton
Speaker 4: tone Let's hunt.
Speaker 2: He's flushed and looking and scrambling.
Speaker 6: And.
Speaker 2: Wow, Clayton toned.
Speaker 8: Cock flit away.
Speaker 4: Seventy touchdown passes the last two years of his college
Speaker 4: career at Houston, prolific passing stats. One of ten quarterbacks
Speaker 4: drafted in the first one hundred and fifty picks, Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 4: that is the first time since nineteen ninety five, and
Speaker 4: there were a dozen quarterbacks in the first five rounds,
Speaker 4: and that sets a modern draft record. And a lot
Speaker 4: of people wondering was that the Brock Party effect because
Speaker 4: Clayton Tune as forty four career starts and those experienced
Speaker 4: college quarterbacks started flying off the board on day number three.
Speaker 4: It is the big Red Rage presented by santan Ford
Speaker 4: and Gilbert. And if there's one thing we know, Ron Wolfley,
Speaker 4: it is that the NFL is a copycat league. And
Speaker 4: I'm guessing a lot of teams, maybe even the Cardinals,
Speaker 4: are looking for the next Brock Party.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. Potley brock Perty acquitted himself
Speaker 1: pretty well when given the opportunity right now and then.
Speaker 1: One of the great things about the National Football League,
Speaker 1: especially the sport, the sport of football, it's the ultimate meritocracy, Paul.
Speaker 1: It really is. You know what, you get what you earned.
Speaker 1: Ninety nine point nine percent of the time, you get
Speaker 1: what you earned. You got to come in and you've
Speaker 1: got to earn that right now. And Clayton Tune, he's
Speaker 1: very intriguing. He's got a little bit of size to him.
Speaker 1: He's got a little movement to him as well. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch this guy in his development
Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna be given that opportunity as well.
Speaker 4: Paul six three two twenty. He started games over five
Speaker 4: different seasons at Houston. We know his comments, I'm the
Speaker 4: best quarterback in this class. We're gonna get a comment,
Speaker 4: you know. Well, Look, Jonathan Gannon was asked about it
Speaker 4: years truly. I asked him just about that fact that
Speaker 4: he made that proclamation after he was drafted. I'm sure
Speaker 4: he still had the adrenaline flowing of hearing his name
Speaker 4: called and all that kind of stuff. And Jag essentially said,
Speaker 4: you know what, I'm fine with that, But it's even
Speaker 4: better when you speak soft and carry a big stick.
Speaker 4: So you know, what do you think? Because that's not
Speaker 4: all that Clayton Tune said. He went on to say, quote,
Speaker 4: I'm a natural leader. Yeah, people follow me. I elevate
Speaker 4: everyone around me. People see the work I put in.
Speaker 4: I have that no flinch mentality when things get tough.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, And honestly, he's going to be given that
Speaker 1: opportunity to show that he does have that no flinch
Speaker 1: when things get tough out here. It's great, you've got
Speaker 1: a how many times have you heard me talk about this?
Speaker 1: But as a quarterback, you have got to be a
Speaker 1: confident person. You truly do. And that's going to be
Speaker 1: the challenge to Clayton Tune when he goes out there
Speaker 1: and realizes that these schemes are much more difficult than
Speaker 1: college schemes, that the speed of the game is much
Speaker 1: different than a college game because everybody out on that
Speaker 1: field can run. Everybody out on that field is a
Speaker 1: specimen to some degree. Everybody out on that field is
Speaker 1: a good football pl It becomes very very tough. But
Speaker 1: once again, would you rather have your quarterback, be confident
Speaker 1: or not be confident. You know what, I'll take him
Speaker 1: as a confident. I'll take that quarterback that is confident,
Speaker 1: But you also have to be real.
Speaker 4: And by the way, per Pro Football Focus, he had
Speaker 4: the best passing grade in all of college football last
Speaker 4: year and he had the highest on target percentage. So
Speaker 4: he's accurate, he has good anticipation. We'll see if he's
Speaker 4: given every chance to compete for that backup playing time
Speaker 4: behind Kyler Murray. Speaking of the Cardinals franchise quarterback, we
Speaker 4: got an update recently on the Dave Pash podcast from
Speaker 4: the GM maniasin Port.
Speaker 11: Kyler's here every day. Kyler's grinding, he's working hard, he's
Speaker 11: getting better, he's improving every day. I don't have a timeline.
Speaker 11: I don't have an update on that. We're going to
Speaker 11: put him out there when he's ready. He's doing everything
Speaker 11: he can now. He's in meetings, he's learning, he's trying
Speaker 11: to take in the new offense and doing what he
Speaker 11: can on that front. He just can't be out on
Speaker 11: the field right now, and he is just physically not
Speaker 11: ready to do that.
Speaker 4: I mean, Kyler is cited around the Cardinals facility pretty
Speaker 4: much on a daily basis. He's definitely been putting in
Speaker 4: the work the rehab hours they've been there. There's a
Speaker 4: lot of bullish reports on how he's progressing. Jonathan Gannon
Speaker 4: was very positive in his response to the media less
Speaker 4: than a week ago, but then he sort of ended
Speaker 4: the answer with he's still got a long ways to
Speaker 4: go quote unquote of courses. Our Craig grill Will pointed
Speaker 4: out he also said that about the entire team at
Speaker 4: one point, We've got a long ways to go. So
Speaker 4: you don't know if that's really specific to Kyler necessarily
Speaker 4: in his rehab schedule, but beyond Kyler Wolf because it
Speaker 4: is uncertain, is it going to be back in the
Speaker 4: first month, the second month, nobody knows. How wide open
Speaker 4: do you think the competition is behind Kyler?
Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, that is a great question, Paul. Really. First
Speaker 1: of all, let me just say that I believe Kyler
Speaker 1: Murray based on some of the reports that I have heard,
Speaker 1: I do believe that Kyler Murray is progressing very very well.
Speaker 1: How well that is going to be the question right there,
Speaker 1: how well how many games will he miss? We're gonna
Speaker 1: have to wait and see on that. In terms of
Speaker 1: who's going to be the backup PAULI right now, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you don't go into Week one with
Speaker 1: Colt McCoy as your quarterback. I just have a hard
Speaker 1: time believing that it's not going to be Colt McCoy
Speaker 1: going in week one now Clayton Tune. How well is
Speaker 1: Clayton Tune going to pick up the scheme? I have
Speaker 1: no idea. How well is he going to pick up
Speaker 1: the offense. I don't know how well is he going
Speaker 1: to play in preseason games. I've got no idea, But
Speaker 1: I do think Colt McCoy is going to be the
Speaker 1: starting quarterback for this team week one, and then week two,
Speaker 1: and maybe after that as long as Kyler is out,
Speaker 1: I think you're still going to have Colt McCoy be
Speaker 1: the starter.
Speaker 4: Well, here's Drew Stanton, thirteen year NFL veteran former Cardinals
Speaker 4: backup quarterback, and this is from the Red Sea Report
Speaker 4: this week, and how Clayton Tune should handle the competition.
Speaker 12: I think that experience is so valuable and the amount
Speaker 12: that he has played at the college level, amount of
Speaker 12: football that he's is going to help him tremendously because
Speaker 12: he's not going to get a ton of reps. So
Speaker 12: you've got to be able to learn through different avenues
Speaker 12: and different mechanisms, and by watching, you've got to be
Speaker 12: able to sit there and assimilate this knowledge. There's different
Speaker 12: ways to make sure you're continuing to improve and staying engaged,
Speaker 12: because if you take a day off, if you just say, oh,
Speaker 12: I don't have any reps today, you're going to fall behind.
Speaker 12: You're going to fall behind quickly, and once you lose
Speaker 12: any footing in a quarterback room, it could be over
Speaker 12: very fast.
Speaker 4: David Blouse started a couple of games so the Cardinals
Speaker 4: last year. Down the stretch, we saw that Jeff Driscoll
Speaker 4: started games for the Texans last year, so everyone ahead
Speaker 4: of him on the depth chart definitely has NFL experience
Speaker 4: as rookie. Obviously he does not. But Drew also made
Speaker 4: another point Wolfe. I thought this was interesting that with
Speaker 4: a dual threat quarterback on the board and Dorian Thompson
Speaker 4: Robinson from UCLA, the Cardinals went after Clayton Tune. Yes,
Speaker 4: they did not go after a Kyler klone so to speak,
Speaker 4: in terms of body type and skill set. They went
Speaker 4: after the six three too. Twenty more of a pocket.
Speaker 1: Quarter PAULI here, you know exactly what I'm going to
Speaker 1: say about that, and that's because now all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: you're going to see an offense I think that is
Speaker 1: going to try to blend the old and the new,
Speaker 1: and offense that is going to try to put their
Speaker 1: quarterback more under center, an offense that is going to
Speaker 1: attack the line of scrimmage with a big back like
Speaker 1: James Connor, attack the line of scrimmage and then use
Speaker 1: the power of play action that has been around for
Speaker 1: a long long time. Listen, I know that the New
Speaker 1: Age offense and the zone read in the RPOs are
Speaker 1: very very effective, but the only thing that makes them
Speaker 1: more effective is if you're also able to put your
Speaker 1: quarterback under center and then use one of the oldest
Speaker 1: tactics in the game of football, and that is play
Speaker 1: action to use that in rundown situation. JG as a
Speaker 1: head coach and former defensive coordinator, JG understands the power
Speaker 1: of having a quarterback under center running to a meshpoint.
Speaker 1: You have the ball, Is he going to hand the
Speaker 1: ball off? Or is he not going to hand it?
Speaker 4: All?
Speaker 1: You guessed wrong, and if you guess wrong, You're host.
Speaker 1: JG understands that, paul In. Because of that, it makes
Speaker 1: me think we're going to see a lot more under
Speaker 1: center in the Arizona Cardinals future.
Speaker 4: And don't dismiss the fact that the Cardinals quarterbacks coach
Speaker 4: Israel Wolfork that he worked with Clayton Tune the entire
Speaker 4: week of the Senior Bowl. He was the quarterback coach,
Speaker 4: so he got real familiar with the sort of person
Speaker 4: in quarterback that Clayton Tune is, and obviously they felt
Speaker 4: comfortable enough in making him the one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: ninth pick of the NFL Draft. Another standout from the
Speaker 4: Senior Bowl was Michael Wilson. And having watched the little
Speaker 4: bit of rookie mini camp they allowed us to watch,
Speaker 4: I mean, and look, it might have been because he
Speaker 4: was one of the few guys running full speed. He's
Speaker 4: running routes. But Michael Wilson, just the size, the fluidity
Speaker 4: the route running. He crushed his interview with the media,
Speaker 4: I mean, very polished. He's already a top five in
Speaker 4: interview on this team. Very well spoken. I thought he
Speaker 4: stood out. John Gaines was getting reps at center. Now
Speaker 4: he was one of two offensive linemen. We're going to
Speaker 4: talk about that coming up here along with Paris Johnson Junior.
Speaker 4: But Wolf, just in general, this rookie class, to me,
Speaker 4: has a real chance to get a lot of playing
Speaker 4: time this season.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paula, it's so interesting to hear you mentioned Michael
Speaker 1: Wilson as well. That guy, that guy's got a little
Speaker 1: verticality to him. He brings a little size, and I
Speaker 1: think that's what the Cardinals need. I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 1: to see him really step forward as a rookie. Hey.
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Speaker 4: he's got to be a Day one starter, right, number
Speaker 4: six overall and if so, where there is at least
Speaker 4: three different options by our account. We'll break it down
Speaker 4: when we come back on the Big Red Rage presented
Speaker 4: by Santan forward In Gilbert.
Speaker 8: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three.
Speaker 9: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson Junior, ohios.
Speaker 11: Kai high high football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable,
Speaker 11: and you can tell that he's made of the right things,
Speaker 11: the things that we want not only our offensive lineman
Speaker 11: to be made of, but but our entire team.
Speaker 4: As GM moniasin Fort on his draft selection number six overall.
Speaker 4: Remember the Cardinals started round one in this year's draft
Speaker 4: at number three, then they traded down to number twelve,
Speaker 4: then they came back up to number six. And the
Speaker 4: more I hear about how it went down in the
Speaker 4: war room, Ron woofully, including this week, anecdotally, most everyone
Speaker 4: other than maniasin Fort was gripping big time when the
Speaker 4: clock got under two minutes and he still had several
Speaker 4: teams on the horn, one on his celf phone, one
Speaker 4: on the house phone, and they're like, money, we're under
Speaker 4: two minutes to go here, buddy, And he was cool
Speaker 4: and calm for his very first draft ever as the
Speaker 4: I mean decision maker running that thing. And the Cardinals
Speaker 4: end up with Houston's first round pick next year. By
Speaker 4: the way, speaking of Houston, real quick, you realize Week eleven,
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior against Will Anderson. Yes, Paulli, I mean
Speaker 4: Will Anderson, who led college football D one with twenty
Speaker 4: seven and a half sacks the last two years against
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson three sacks allowed on eight hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: two pass blocks snaps in his college career, according to
Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, honestly, right now, it's gonna be interesting to
Speaker 1: see where they star Paris Johnson Junior. I would put
Speaker 1: him at left guard. That seems like the natural fit
Speaker 1: right there, knowing you've got a left tackle and DJ humphreyes.
Speaker 1: Knowing you got Calvin Beachum on the other side, Will
Speaker 1: Hernandez at right guard. The center position is still going
Speaker 1: to be up for grant, but Paris Johnson Junior. I
Speaker 1: could see him at left guard. Right there. I would
Speaker 1: put him there because I'd want him to be in
Speaker 1: a position where he's getting in a left handed stance
Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman, because you probably see him at
Speaker 1: some point in time being your franchise left tackle going forward.
Speaker 1: Provided he develops, of course, and becomes everything you think,
Speaker 1: so it'd be a much easier transition kicking out to
Speaker 1: left tackle when DJ Humphries is done. When that is,
Speaker 1: I do not know, but I love the fact Paris
Speaker 1: Johnson Junior is going to be working closely with DJ. Now.
Speaker 4: DJ Humphries was sitting here Wolf. You know how Deeed
Speaker 4: would react. Right, I'm twenty seven to twenty eight, I'm
Speaker 4: in my prime and you already got me out of here. Yeah,
Speaker 4: I'm in a long term contract.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 4: There is ability for the Cardinals maybe to get out
Speaker 4: of the contract starting after this season. But what's wrong
Speaker 4: with DJ Humphries over the next three or four years
Speaker 4: as your franchise left tackle and then Paris Johnson Junior
Speaker 4: manning the right side right tackle.
Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it, Polly whatsoever? There really isn't.
Speaker 1: But I think you know, four years is a lifetime
Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You have no idea what's
Speaker 1: going to happen, both contractually for the most part and
Speaker 1: from an injury perspective.
Speaker 4: Well, here's Paris Johnson Junior to the media recently, just
Speaker 4: him explaining the difference to him between guard and tackle.
Speaker 10: I think just the timing of everything. I think on
Speaker 10: how how quickly you bring your hands, being able to
Speaker 10: realize where your help is. Because of guard you're in
Speaker 10: a box and tackle you're in space. To Coach Adams,
Speaker 10: you know, that's one that's I feel like, regardless of
Speaker 10: where I'm at, being with coach Adams. I think he
Speaker 10: knows how to develop his guys to play that sort
Speaker 10: of way, you know, regardless of position.
Speaker 4: It's a line coach, Clayton Adams. He's referring to there,
Speaker 4: all right, So let me throw this at j Ron
Speaker 4: Wellflee rookie mini camp last week in the one hour
Speaker 4: the media was allowed to observe, there was John Gaines
Speaker 4: snapping the ball and lined up to his right was
Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior. Now this was on air, but there
Speaker 4: was Paris Johnson. He could have been lined up left,
Speaker 4: but he wasn't. He was lined up right. So we
Speaker 4: took that and from that, I'm telling you, I think
Speaker 4: it's gonna be D. Jefferies' left tackle. Your right tackle
Speaker 4: is going to be Paris Johnson Junior. Calvin Beacham becomes
Speaker 4: your swing, a guy who got you out of a
Speaker 4: game last year. A left tackle also has experience on
Speaker 4: the interior. Will Hernandez I think goes back to left guard,
Speaker 4: where he played his first four years in the league.
Speaker 4: And now you've got to figure out center and right guard.
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Polly right, you're kidding me. You're telling
Speaker 1: me that Calvin Beacham, what did they sign him to
Speaker 1: a two year contract, Paul, was it a two year contract? Yes,
Speaker 1: you're going to tell me that Calvin Beacham is not
Speaker 1: going to be a starter.
Speaker 4: I think he's a perfect at this point in his career.
Speaker 4: He's the perfect swing guy and wolf. If all these
Speaker 4: rookies this year are going to learn on the job,
Speaker 4: why not Paris Johnson Junior. Look at what the Seahawks
Speaker 4: did last year with their two rookie tackles. Look what
Speaker 4: the Giants did last year at the right tackle Evan Neil,
Speaker 4: who was a top ten pick as well. I just
Speaker 4: see that as a trend right now in the NFL,
Speaker 4: and I think the Cardinals follow along.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, honestly, I see Paris Johnson Junior
Speaker 1: being the left guard. We'll take you to a wager that, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what, the left guard for the most part
Speaker 1: gets more help and gives more help than anybody else.
Speaker 1: I like him.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 4: Here's my other hot take. I think because of that,
Speaker 4: they have three viable tackles. Josh Jones is on the
Speaker 4: trading block. That's what I think. But I have no idea.
Speaker 4: I'm just projecting. Maybe they think Josh Jones is your
Speaker 4: left guard, since he's much more comfortable on the left
Speaker 4: than he is on the right. I don't know. I
Speaker 4: also have no idea what they're thinking necessarily at center
Speaker 4: right now. If you had to play a game, I
Speaker 4: presume it would be Yelda Froholt, just because he has
Speaker 4: several years of NFL experience and actually started four or
Speaker 4: five games last year at center in a pinch for
Speaker 4: the Browns. But John Gaines is very well thought of
Speaker 4: and there he was snapping during Rocky Mini camp. You
Speaker 4: got a gut feel on the center spot.
Speaker 11: Wolf.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's good to be yelled to
Speaker 1: fro Holt. I do, PAULI I think it's going to
Speaker 1: be him. He's going to be given the first opportunity
Speaker 1: to go out there and win the job. You know,
Speaker 1: with John gains they needed somebody to snap the ball,
Speaker 1: and I know he can play center. I know that's
Speaker 1: part of his repertoire. Yet at the same time, I
Speaker 1: think Yelda has got a huge advantage, and the reason
Speaker 1: being is because he's actually played at this level, and
Speaker 1: not only that, Polly, he's played in the offense that
Speaker 1: Drew Petsing is going to bring to the Cardinals.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true. There's no doubt about that. And
Speaker 4: he's a great personality, yelled to fro Holt. You know
Speaker 4: what he refers to himself as I doubt Paul the
Speaker 4: Danish army knife because he's from Denmark.
Speaker 1: The Danish army Knife.
Speaker 4: That's what he calls himself. It's outstanding, Paul.
Speaker 1: I don't know, Yelda, can I talk to you for
Speaker 1: a minute. I don't know if you actually want to
Speaker 1: go out and tell people that.
Speaker 4: No, it's he's got a good personality. He's you know,
Speaker 4: he's he's Dutch. He grew up, you know, and then
Speaker 4: he came over to America and so it's solid. He
Speaker 4: uses Atlas stones as part of his workout, like the
Speaker 4: World's Strongest Man competition. That's what he uses part of
Speaker 4: his workout.
Speaker 1: You know. I want to go back, Paulie. Not that
Speaker 1: I'm ignoring your workout talk right there. I just want
Speaker 1: to go back to Will Hernandez at right guard as well.
Speaker 1: You're talking about moving him over to left guard now.
Speaker 1: Will Hernandez at right guard was the best offensive lineman
Speaker 1: the Horizontal Cardinals had through the first eight weeks until
Speaker 1: he got hurt.
Speaker 4: I'm not going to disagree with that, I'm not, And
Speaker 4: you know what, that's just just rampant speculation. On my point,
Speaker 4: I think the interior line is a complete unknown right now.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. In fact, what you know, you know,
Speaker 1: Will's gonna start at one of the Oh.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the where and you know, beyond d
Speaker 4: Jumfries and Will Hernandez, you know, we have no idea
Speaker 4: what a new coaching staff and a new GM thinks
Speaker 4: of all these players. True Season six, Episode three, Cardinals
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