1 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Strap on the boots and scrape up. 2 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: The knuckles ahead. 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:06,800 Speaker 1: He got jacked. 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:11,720 Speaker 3: This is the Big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 5 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 3: in Gilbert. 6 00:00:12,400 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 4: Where he's gonna score touchdown Slim to the ground by 7 00:00:15,440 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker like a torpedo. He came flying into the 8 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 4: back field. 9 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 3: The rage is brought to you by santan Ford in Gilbert. 10 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Are you santan Ford State Farm? Talk to an agent 11 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:35,839 Speaker 3: today at eight hundred State Farm, And by Arizona Cardinals Podcasts. 12 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 3: Visit Azycardinals dot Com, Slash podcasts. 13 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: The Red Seeds rising Up, temperaturizing vision, flurring rage, take 14 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:47,840 Speaker 2: it over. 15 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 3: Here's Paul Calvis. 16 00:00:49,520 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 4: I'm ready. I'm one hundred percent ready. I'm telling you abready. 17 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 4: And Ron Wolfleep, it doesn't get any better than that. 18 00:00:57,760 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: Leash the fjord. 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 4: Hey, if you can't trust NFL dot com, Wolf, who 20 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,120 Speaker 4: can you trust? 21 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: Right? 22 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:06,839 Speaker 2: Huh? 23 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,840 Speaker 4: Well, sort of here we go. You know what they 24 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,839 Speaker 4: wrote about tonight's guest about the Cardinals Round two pick 25 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,560 Speaker 4: our very special guest. Here's what they wrote, and I 26 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:22,520 Speaker 4: quote will predict that the high character edge Bendy Oglari 27 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: will outperform rushers picked ahead of him. End quote. We're 28 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 4: talking about the likes of Will Anderson and Tyree Wilson 29 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 4: and Lucas van Ness and Will McDonald dot dot dot Well, 30 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 4: that's again according to NFL dot com. We'll ask our 31 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: own questions of the Cardinals round two pick number forty 32 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,119 Speaker 4: one overall on this very special edition of The Big 33 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 4: Red Rage, presented by Santan Ford and Gilbert. We are 34 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 4: Santan Ford, Paul calvic Here, Ron wolf Ley there. 35 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: You know, Paul, because of the opportunity, of course, I 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: think the first two picks in the Arizona Cardinals twenty 37 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:04,800 Speaker 1: twenty three draft really will contribute an awful lot this season. 38 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,680 Speaker 1: I think Paris Johnson Junior, of course, especially at left guard. 39 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,359 Speaker 1: I think that's where they're gonna start him off, and 40 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: I think that's where he's gonna be until maybe somebody 41 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: gets hurt or goes down at some point that could 42 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,920 Speaker 1: change everything. But I think he's going to see an 43 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: awful lot of action. And I think Bjoglari as well 44 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: is going to see a lot of action. Those two guys, 45 00:02:24,480 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I think are going to be able to contribute their 46 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,480 Speaker 1: rookie year. How much into what degree, I don't know, 47 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:31,120 Speaker 1: you know, what. 48 00:02:31,080 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 4: I want to see. I want to see those two 49 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:35,959 Speaker 4: going against each other mana wemano O line D line 50 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:39,480 Speaker 4: drills in camp in August, sort of like once upon 51 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:39,880 Speaker 4: a time. 52 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:40,239 Speaker 1: D J. 53 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 4: Humprey's got a lot better going against Chandler Jones. I 54 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 4: want to see that as a regular thing. B Joe 55 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 4: Glari against Paris Johnson Junior. We'll ask him about that. Well, 56 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: you know what else, We're gonna ask him which QB 57 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 4: he wants to sack the most in the NFL, because 58 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 4: a year ago at this time, mi Ja Sanders answered 59 00:02:56,760 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 4: that question immediately and he said Tom Brady. So we'll 60 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 4: ask b Joe Gelori about that. Why he whar's the 61 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 4: number eighteen? What sort of legacy that has with LSU 62 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 4: And he also has royalty in his family tree. We're 63 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 4: going to get into that as well. But off the top, 64 00:03:12,000 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: here we go. 65 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 2: Wolf. 66 00:03:12,800 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 4: They had the rookie mini camp speaking of Paris Johnson 67 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 4: Junior in bj Ojelori and the question of Jonathan Gannon 68 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,520 Speaker 4: here this time of year is okay, how much exactly 69 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 4: are you going to throw at the rookies? 70 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 5: We treat him like pros, you know, and they're gonna 71 00:03:26,840 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 5: have to get caught up, and they know that, you know, 72 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 5: every guy's a little bit different how you install, on 73 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:35,880 Speaker 5: how you teach and what they can handle. So we're 74 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 5: kind of just figuring that out first time with you know, 75 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: being in the building and being in meetings with him 76 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 5: things like that. So, but they know that the pace 77 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 5: is going to go. The pace is the pace. So 78 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 5: they got to get caught up and submerge with the 79 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 5: vets and get caught up pretty quick. 80 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 4: And if you don't keep up, Wolf, then really you 81 00:03:53,040 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 4: have no chance, right because I mean, the coaches first 82 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 4: and foremost have to be able to trust you in 83 00:03:57,880 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 4: the scheme, in the playbook. 84 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: Just Bully. The more things change in the NFL, the 85 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: more they stay the same. And that is certainly the 86 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 1: case when you're talking about a rookie coming into the 87 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: National Football League, and what a shock it truly is. 88 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: All the different schemes, the complexity of the schemes, of course, 89 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: and it's a different game from college. You've heard me 90 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:22,600 Speaker 1: talk about this for years, Bully, but it really is 91 00:04:22,640 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: the truth. The only analogy that suffices. For the most part, 92 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: College football is a game of checkers, where the NFL 93 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: is a game of chess. It truly is much more strategic, 94 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: much more complex. You've got to apply yourself, You've got 95 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: to work at your job when you're a rookie trying 96 00:04:42,360 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: to learn these schemes, because Paulie, think about it, If 97 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: you don't know what to do, what chance do you 98 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:51,599 Speaker 1: really have? Even if you think, Paulie, even if you 99 00:04:51,600 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 1: think like I think I know what I'm doing on this, 100 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: you want to be convicted. You want to be sure 101 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,479 Speaker 1: that you know what you're doing in it, not just 102 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 1: guessing at whether you're doing the right thing. But if 103 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: you can't, if you can't conceptualize it, you're not going 104 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,200 Speaker 1: to be able to execute it. 105 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,160 Speaker 4: Because not only do you have to know your assignment 106 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: and know it cold, but guess what, you have to 107 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 4: know it when going against Oh, I don't know the 108 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:17,040 Speaker 4: Kyle Shanahan's of the world, right, the Sean mcgaye of 109 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 4: the world. And what do they try and do They 110 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:22,039 Speaker 4: try and confuse you. They try and make you a 111 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: half step slow by showing you various things that make 112 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 4: you think before you react. And to your point, there's 113 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:32,359 Speaker 4: no worse way to look slow on a football field 114 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 4: than if you're thinking instead of playing. 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, Pauline, not only that too, stop and think about this. 116 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: There are a lot of different responsibilities that you might 117 00:05:41,800 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: have on one given call. One call, but based on 118 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: how they come out to the personnel group, the formation 119 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: they're in, and the play they actually run, it might 120 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: change your assignment, paul So not only do you need 121 00:05:56,320 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: to know what you're doing on the play call, you 122 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 1: also need to know the five or six or seven 123 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: adjustments that come off it. 124 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 4: So like, for example, you know what I think of 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,919 Speaker 4: when you talk about all that. I think of the 126 00:06:07,960 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: Cardinals signing Kaizer White. I think of bringing in a 127 00:06:10,880 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 4: guy who knows Gannon's defense. Yeah, has run it for 128 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 4: several years. I'm guessing they're gonna give him the green dot. 129 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 4: That was Zamon Collins, an outside linebacker. And guess what, 130 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,120 Speaker 4: trust your eyes, he's an outside linebacker until we see differently, 131 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 4: if Kayzer White is calling this defense, well that makes 132 00:06:28,680 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 4: a lot of sense. He is the quarterback of the D. 133 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:34,280 Speaker 4: He's the guy who knows Gannon's defensive playbook. 134 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,559 Speaker 1: Yeah, PAULI, No, I think you're right about that. Again. 135 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:41,360 Speaker 1: Zavan Collins, he's going to be an outside linebacker. They're 136 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: going to put him on the edge. I really do 137 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: see this. I could see the Philadelphia Eagles defense being 138 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:51,839 Speaker 1: here where they covered the interior three offensive lineman right 139 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: to the center and both guards. They covered him with 140 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: three techniques right there and then had two edge guys 141 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 1: and then one line that being Kaiser White behind that. 142 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 1: It was a six man box, but it was a 143 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 1: different construction of that six man box for the most part. 144 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: I could see that being a base defense for this 145 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: team going forward. Right. 146 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon was also asked about positional flexibility on guys 147 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 4: learning multiple positions. You know the old pair and a spare. Well, 148 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 4: here's JG on that. 149 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 5: You know, our guys understand the value of playing multiple spots. 150 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 5: You know, I got trained at a young age a 151 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 5: pair and a spare. You always got to have different 152 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,360 Speaker 5: guys be able to play different spots, and ultimately you're 153 00:07:38,360 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 5: trying to do what's best for the team and for 154 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 5: the best for the player too. So we got a 155 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 5: long time to figure that out, but that's what we're doing. 156 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 1: Now. 157 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 4: Where do you think Isaiah Simmons is going to play? 158 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 4: I ask, almost rhetorically, this is almost a weekly question. 159 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 4: Do you what would the edge really? 160 00:07:55,480 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: I think once again, that's zab and Collins and that's 161 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:02,800 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons. You're two inside guys. I could see them 162 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: being the edge, Paul. That's where I and again it's 163 00:08:06,640 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: I think JG is talking about not moving Isaiah Simmons 164 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: all over the place. I could be wrong on that, 165 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: poly but I think he's talking more about a player 166 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 1: being willing to be moved and it goes somewhere and 167 00:08:20,360 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: to try to help the team. That's what I think 168 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: he's talking about. And if he is, if I'm correct 169 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: on that, I think he's talking about Zaban Collins and 170 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,160 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons doing what they need to do to maybe 171 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: take that next step in their careers. 172 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 4: Because if you look at the safety depth on this 173 00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:40,720 Speaker 4: depth chart right now, there's not a lot behind a 174 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 4: Buddha Baker and a Jalen Thompson right so I could 175 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 4: theoretically see Isaiah Simmons in the safety room. Again. Now, 176 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,480 Speaker 4: as of right now, moments ago I checked the Cardinals website, 177 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 4: he's still listed it as an inside linebacker. Now that's 178 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:55,200 Speaker 4: just a regular roster, that's not a jet chart, you know, 179 00:08:55,280 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: installed by the team or anything or the coaches. That 180 00:08:57,679 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: is I bring this up also becau. Did you see 181 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,040 Speaker 4: what dan Quinn said this week about Micah Parsons. Micah 182 00:09:04,120 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 4: Parsons had tweeted out within the last week that he's 183 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 4: using the offseason to bulk up, gained some weight, and 184 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 4: to prepare for a full time pass rusher role. Now 185 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 4: dan Quinn sort of shot that down a little bit 186 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 4: with the media because he was asked about that when 187 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 4: he met the media instead of Mike McCarthy was out 188 00:09:19,920 --> 00:09:22,040 Speaker 4: getting like back surgery or something, so the media was 189 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 4: all over him and he called him dan Quinn Michael 190 00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: Parsons quote a pass rushing linebacker, and I immediately immediately 191 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 4: thought of Isaiah Simmons. The question is, could an Isaiah Simmons, 192 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 4: in your opinion, maybe bulk up a little bit to 193 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 4: be more equipped for the edge and to hold the 194 00:09:39,640 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: point against the run. 195 00:09:40,840 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: Perhaps, Yeah, he could, PAULI, there's no doubt he could. 196 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: But you know, I don't really know how much he's 197 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: got to bulk up on that one. I really don't. 198 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: Now we're gonna get a first hand look, obviously, we're 199 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna see if he's going to be able to do that, 200 00:09:56,800 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: But a lot of setting the edge, Paul is really 201 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 1: coming from the inside. It's more like setting your soul, 202 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: if you know what I mean, set the edge by 203 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,160 Speaker 1: set your soul and make sure you're being stiff at 204 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 1: the point of attack and you are setting that edge. 205 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: I think Isaiah Simmons once he knows exactly and this 206 00:10:17,240 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 1: is the reason why PAULI I continue to talk about this, 207 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: but why I would leave him at one position. You 208 00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:27,080 Speaker 1: need to know what is expected of you in every situation, 209 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: against every offense, against every formation, against every personnel group. 210 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: You need to know what is expected of you on 211 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: every play that you're gonna call. And that is the 212 00:10:39,320 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: reason why you can demand from a player right do 213 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: your job because you know what it is you have 214 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: to do. But when you start moving guys all over 215 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 1: the place, now it becomes cloudy. 216 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 4: So I'm going to go full circle in this segment. 217 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 4: NFL dot Com today, as I go back to the 218 00:10:56,400 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 4: NFL website, they have a story thirty two teams thirty 219 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 4: two needs is the headline top remaining offseason priority for 220 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: each team? What do you think they listed for the 221 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:16,480 Speaker 4: Cardinals to Well, did you read the article? Yeah, they 222 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 4: listed they listed get what you can for d hop 223 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: immediately to which I totally disagree, because you know, some 224 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 4: team's going to get to training camp and realize that 225 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,560 Speaker 4: the rookie receiver they drafted ain't all that in a 226 00:11:28,600 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 4: bag of chips, and maybe we should get something in 227 00:11:31,000 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 4: someone who's proven so wide receiver. All right, So here's 228 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 4: a discovery report on bg O Jalari. His ability to 229 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:44,400 Speaker 4: bend the edge makes him the best prospect in the 230 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: class in this area. Hello, we're going to talk to 231 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,160 Speaker 4: the Cardinals round two rookie pass rusher. As we continue 232 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 4: with a big Red Rage presented by santan Ford and Gilbert. 233 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 4: We are santan Ford. 234 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 6: With the forty first pick and the twenty twenty three draft, 235 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 6: the Arizona Cardinals select bj Old Jelori linebacker lsu. 236 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 7: I love what Ojai can do in the pass and 237 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:17,560 Speaker 7: run game. I think he's a very natural pass rusher. 238 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 7: You can see his bend coming off the edge with speed. 239 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 8: He can beat you his speed. 240 00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 7: He's very fluid and natural with his counter rushes. And 241 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 7: then on top of that, he can stick a long 242 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 7: arm in there and moves off his long arm. So 243 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 7: as far as his rush ability, very versatile, very natural. 244 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 7: And then I love the tools that he has in 245 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 7: the run game. 246 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: His new Cardinals defensive coordinator Nick Rowlis on the Cardinals 247 00:12:42,679 --> 00:12:45,560 Speaker 4: New edge guy, the new weapon getting after the quarterback. 248 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 4: And we'll get to the fact that, yes, that was 249 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 4: the voice of Cardinals Hall of Famer, a legend, the 250 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: Ring of Honor guy a Nias Williams, a Louisiana guy 251 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 4: by the way. But we love to speak the language 252 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: of pass rushing here on the Big Red Rig. Okay, 253 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, getting after the quarterback. I know 254 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon is fond of the phrase rush and crush. 255 00:13:07,280 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: There's a dip and rip that's a good one. Bend 256 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 4: the edge, like you know, some of my favorite football 257 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 4: terms are when it comes to pass rushing. You know 258 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 4: you're here, They're the you know, speed to power and 259 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 4: then you hear Nick rallis the long arm stab. And it's 260 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: even better when we're talking with bj Ojealari himself, the 261 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 4: Cardinals new pass rusher here on the Big Red Rage, BJ, 262 00:13:25,840 --> 00:13:26,559 Speaker 4: how we doing. 263 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 8: I'm doing great? 264 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:27,440 Speaker 6: Man. 265 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 8: You definitely cover pass rap perfectly right there. 266 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,920 Speaker 4: What do you what's your favorite term when it comes 267 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 4: to pass rushing? You know, I mean, is there anything 268 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,800 Speaker 4: that stands out. When you're talking about the art of 269 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: getting after the quarterback, what do you like to talk 270 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 4: about the most. 271 00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 9: Really diffing and Riven being the guy off the edge. 272 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 9: That's one of my favorite things to do. Like you said, 273 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 9: pass rushers are and that's where I think I can 274 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,840 Speaker 9: display my best talents right there. 275 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 4: So we heard the moment right where your name was called. 276 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:57,679 Speaker 4: And when you go back to the TV copy, and 277 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:00,839 Speaker 4: I love the fam cam right because you were right 278 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 4: at you were like at the epicenter of a v right. Yeah, 279 00:14:02,920 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 4: you're a family there left all of the right. And 280 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:06,320 Speaker 4: then when you go to the phone call in the 281 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 4: war room from Manti Austin for the GM, you couldn't 282 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: even hear him. What was that like? It was like 283 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:12,120 Speaker 4: bedlam in your house? 284 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was. I was so in shock. 285 00:14:14,080 --> 00:14:16,880 Speaker 9: Everyone else was so excited, and I'm just there, almost frozen. 286 00:14:17,160 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 8: I'm trying to listen to the call. 287 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 9: I'm trying to respond say yes, sir, you know it 288 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,960 Speaker 9: was just a moment, he said, just you know, enjoyed 289 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 9: his moment with your family. 290 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 8: We're gonna call you back because he is. 291 00:14:27,520 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: A moment you had been working and striving for for 292 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: probably over a decade, right, I mean that's the moment 293 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:36,359 Speaker 4: where I'm guessing a lifelong dream is realized. 294 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, most definitely. That's why it's just so shocking 295 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 9: that the time actually came. You know, it's like once 296 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 9: you're eight years old, now now it's time to get drafted. 297 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 9: So it's a definitely a great process and a great 298 00:14:49,960 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 9: moment is just to take in. 299 00:14:51,440 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 4: What's it been like ever since? Has it been a blur? 300 00:14:53,520 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 4: Have had things slowed down a little bit for you? Yeah, 301 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 4: it's been a blur. 302 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 9: Like after you know, two three days after the draft, 303 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:01,280 Speaker 9: things are starting to slow down. 304 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 8: We're Arizona. 305 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 9: Now we're with the team, with the coaches, so things 306 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 9: are starting to slow down, start to be more clear, 307 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 9: getting to know the Vets in the locker room. 308 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 8: So it's definitely getting to slow down. And it makes 309 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 8: sense now. 310 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, you went from rookie mini camp and we're on 311 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 4: board with bj O Gilardi the Cardinals second round pick 312 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,920 Speaker 4: number forty one. Overall the Vets show up. Did the 313 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:23,280 Speaker 4: compete level go up a notch or two when those 314 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 4: guys showed up? 315 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's definitely a competitive environment, but all of them 316 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 9: are taking me under their wing. All the guys in 317 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 9: the alshide linebacker groom are doing a great job, you know, 318 00:15:32,720 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 9: just teaching me the rope, teaching me how it is 319 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 9: to you know, come into the NFL. What I have 320 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 9: to do, you know, to stay in the NFL and 321 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 9: contribute to this team. 322 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: Because you heard from Cam Thomas and my j Sanders 323 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,000 Speaker 4: right off the bat, didn't you, Yes, sir? And what 324 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: sort of I don't know, what sort of friendly advice 325 00:15:47,280 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 4: are you getting because those guys just went through the 326 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 4: rookie process themselves. What are you hearing from some of 327 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 4: the guys who have been there and done that? 328 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 9: Really just getting that playbook, Understand the defense, understand the calls, 329 00:15:56,680 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 9: understand what's asked of me, being able to diagnose plays formations, 330 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 9: getting in on special teams as well, being able to 331 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:06,760 Speaker 9: contribute on there, and you know, accent doing everything the 332 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 9: coach acts of me. 333 00:16:07,640 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 4: So all we've seen to you was rookie minniicamp right 334 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 4: the media that is, and and you were the only 335 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 4: guy out there in your position group for the most part. 336 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 4: So what sort of scouter report would you give on yourself? 337 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 9: So for myself, you know, coming into the NFL, definitely 338 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 9: a guy who's the natural pass rusher can bend as 339 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 9: you speed to power. Great speed rushes can also understand drops, 340 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 9: getting into drops and zones and be used in coverage 341 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:37,720 Speaker 9: as well. Definitely great movement along the line to create 342 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:41,680 Speaker 9: you know, TFLs and really just a high motor player. 343 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,480 Speaker 4: Was there anything that well, come on, now, there's got 344 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 4: to be right. Every player who's coming after the draft, 345 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, overall time have said, you know what, there 346 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 4: are things about my scottery report I heard from the 347 00:16:53,480 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 4: mel Kiper's and Todd mcshay's of the world that irritated me. 348 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:58,760 Speaker 4: What were some of the things that maybe were out 349 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 4: there that you know, you maybe didn't agree with or 350 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 4: maybe it's gonna stick with you through your playing career. 351 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 9: Yeah, just not being able to play the run. You 352 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:10,639 Speaker 9: know a lot of people said I wasn't able to 353 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,920 Speaker 9: play the run. I think in college I definitely been 354 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 9: at an upward progression of playing a run. This last year, 355 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 9: I think I put on the weight with striking blocks, sends, hard, 356 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 9: good edges. So that's something that I think that I 357 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 9: did good. But I can definitely improve on everything in 358 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 9: my game. 359 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: When you were at LSU, you wore number eighteen. Right, 360 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,400 Speaker 4: we're packed twelve country out here. So tell us about 361 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 4: the significance of earning the honor of wearing eighteen. What 362 00:17:38,800 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 4: does that mean within the LSU legacy. 363 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,359 Speaker 9: Yeah, eighteen is a coveted number, is given to the 364 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 9: best all around player on and. 365 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 8: Off the field. 366 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 9: It really just speaks to testimentier leadership, the way you 367 00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,479 Speaker 9: handle yourself, your character, your academics as well, and just 368 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 9: the whole package. Just a great example for the you guys, 369 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 9: and you're the one who's the face of the team. 370 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 9: You're represented the state of Louisiana and your whole team. 371 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,840 Speaker 9: So it's definitely a blessing and a great for your legacy, 372 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 9: just to be able to represent all the number eighteens 373 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 9: that came before me. So how cool was it that 374 00:18:16,400 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 9: eighteen's available for the Cardinals. Yeah, it's a blessing just 375 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 9: to be able to carry on that tradition. Eighteen is 376 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 9: a special number to me, special to Louisiana LSU. So 377 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 9: it's definitely, you know, something that I was blessed and 378 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 9: I'm very grateful for the Arizona Cardinals to let me work. 379 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:31,640 Speaker 8: I'm eighteen And. 380 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,360 Speaker 4: For those who haven't seen it, you go to bg 381 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 4: O Jilard's Twitter page. In the background is number fifty 382 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: six Lawrence Taylor with the New York Giants. That was 383 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,679 Speaker 4: pretty cool to see. I mean, tell us about that. 384 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:44,120 Speaker 4: Does that anything to do with the fact that your 385 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: brother plays for the Giants or were you already a 386 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 4: fan before your brother was drafted a couple of years ago. 387 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was already a fan. 388 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 9: I remember I was probably in middle school, high school, 389 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 9: and I saw Lawrence Taylor of Football Life on NFL Network, 390 00:18:58,960 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 9: and I just immediately had a gravitation to the way 391 00:19:02,160 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 9: he played, his dominance and just you know, everything he 392 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,919 Speaker 9: stood for on the field. So I just wanted to 393 00:19:09,119 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 9: put that as my banner, just to you know, what 394 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 9: I represent on the field and what I can bring 395 00:19:14,720 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 9: in the pass. 396 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 8: Us and just a dominance in the game. 397 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's hard to find a bigger force than Lawrence Taylor. 398 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 4: Our co host and the show run woefully battled him 399 00:19:22,880 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 4: twice a year. Okay, off the edge I had to 400 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:26,880 Speaker 4: try and block Lawrence Taylor and all the guys who 401 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 4: I mean, just the reverence the former players talk about 402 00:19:29,960 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 4: in trying to go after Lawrence Taylor, and the key 403 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,200 Speaker 4: they say was just don't make them mad, because if 404 00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 4: he did, you were doomed. That's basically the way it went. Now, 405 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 4: your brother a ZZ plays for the Giants. How instrumental 406 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 4: has he been in your career maybe taking this next 407 00:19:44,480 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: step from college to the pros. 408 00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,640 Speaker 9: Very you know, he's the blueprint looking up to him, 409 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,120 Speaker 9: seeing what he had to do to get to this 410 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 9: level that we're both at now. So he basically just 411 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 9: laid the foundation for me to follow and just one 412 00:19:58,520 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 9: day exceed. 413 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 4: He said, what thirteen and a half sacks his first 414 00:20:01,480 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 4: two years. He's had a great start to his NFL career. 415 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 4: What was it like growing up? I mean, how much 416 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 4: rough housing was there in theo jel Are household? How 417 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 4: many lamps did you guys break when you were kids. 418 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, it was a lot of rough housing, a lot 419 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 9: of broken lamps, tables, chairs, But you know, I just 420 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 9: think it made us, you know, closer together, had a 421 00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 9: better bond, you know, growing up. That's one of my 422 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 9: best friends now, so it's definitely great to have him 423 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 9: in my life. 424 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 4: No, that's great here, and you went to LSU in 425 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 4: part because he went to Georgia, right, weren't you trying 426 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 4: to sort of carve your own niche. 427 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 9: Yeah, definitely, I was trying to, you know, go on 428 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,959 Speaker 9: my own path, carve my own legacy. LSU was the 429 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:40,119 Speaker 9: best choice for me. He supported that decision. He wanted 430 00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 9: me to come to Georgia, but you know, I just 431 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 9: had different plans and different aspirations. 432 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 4: How do you like to be coached? I read where 433 00:20:46,920 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 4: one of the questions that players will get at the 434 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:52,159 Speaker 4: combine is in those fifteen minute speed dating interviews the 435 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 4: Laska player. You know, how do you want to be coached? 436 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 4: How can we get the best out of you? What 437 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 4: would your answer be to that? 438 00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 9: I think I'm very able. I can adapt to any 439 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 9: style of coaching. In my opinion, I definitely like to 440 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 9: be taught be able to relay the information and translate 441 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 9: it to the field. But I think I'm very versatile 442 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 9: and understanding what the coaching points are and how the 443 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 9: coaching style is to be able to maximize my opportunity 444 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 9: and maximize my play. 445 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 4: Some of these Skunn reports say you'd like to use 446 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:28,280 Speaker 4: a hesitation move to set up the offensive lineman. Is 447 00:21:28,320 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 4: that accurate? And is there anything else that's maybe sort 448 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 4: of signature about your game or specific to you? 449 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:38,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I definitely use hesitations, you know, fakes flashes, just 450 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 9: to give different looks, you know, stop offensive lineman feet, 451 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,240 Speaker 9: you know, just anything to help me get the edge. 452 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:45,159 Speaker 1: Mi J. 453 00:21:45,359 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 4: Sanders said in here a year ago about this exact time, 454 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,040 Speaker 4: and I said, give me the name of a quarterback 455 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 4: you would really like to sack in the NFL. I 456 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 4: didn't even finish this sentence. BJ and he's he's he 457 00:21:55,720 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 4: boarded out Tom Brady, okay, and he gets he got 458 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 4: to play against Tom Brady last year. Is there an 459 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:03,360 Speaker 4: NFL quarterback? Oh man, it would be meaningful for you 460 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: to take down. 461 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,880 Speaker 9: Uh yeah, there's a lot of quarterbacks really. Of course 462 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,040 Speaker 9: not my number one would have been Tom Brady as well. 463 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:12,240 Speaker 9: But you know, you always want to sack the greats, 464 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,639 Speaker 9: one of the best in the league, the Joe Burrows, 465 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 9: the Josh Allens, Jalen Hers and of course Patrick Mahomes. 466 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that would be cool, no doubt. B jo Jelai, 467 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: our guest on The Big Red Rage presenter by Santan 468 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:30,080 Speaker 4: Ford and Gilbert. How about the fact that you have 469 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,840 Speaker 4: Will Anderson already being told that he's gonna have his 470 00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 4: hand in the dirt with Houston they're changing things up 471 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 4: for him. How do you think you'll be used in 472 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 4: this Nick Rawles defense. 473 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 9: I think I'm gonna be more of a stand up 474 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:45,360 Speaker 9: sam jack outside linebacker role, just be able to use 475 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,199 Speaker 9: me in space, use my versatility to help contribute to 476 00:22:48,200 --> 00:22:48,680 Speaker 9: the defense. 477 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 4: How much you think you're gonna follow the will Andersons, 478 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,359 Speaker 4: the Tyree Wilson's, you know, Lucas fan s, Will McDonald, 479 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 4: all those guys who went in Round one. How much 480 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:58,360 Speaker 4: you think you'll follow that mean? How much I does 481 00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 4: it fire you up? Maybe since you went the top 482 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 4: around two. 483 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:04,159 Speaker 9: H Yeah, it's definitely those guys. We all trained together, 484 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:06,680 Speaker 9: so they're good friends of mine. You know, I'm wishing 485 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 9: the best for them. But it's definitely gonna be a 486 00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,680 Speaker 9: competition not with just them, but everyone around the league. 487 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 9: All the best pass rushers in the league. Is gonna 488 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 9: be a competition with them, my brother as well. So 489 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:18,840 Speaker 9: it's gonna be a great season just to be able 490 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,199 Speaker 9: to compete with, you know, my teammates and all the 491 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 9: other rushers in the league. 492 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 4: Because the stat that stands out to us that since 493 00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:28,919 Speaker 4: twenty twenty, according to Pro Football Focus, you had one 494 00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:32,159 Speaker 4: hundred and twenty six quarterback pressures and that was second 495 00:23:32,160 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 4: only to Will Anderson. Some have called you underrated in 496 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: falling to the top round two. What do you think? 497 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 9: I'll definitely say that's kind of accurate in my opinion, 498 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 9: but I'm gonna play to my value. I think I 499 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 9: should have, you know, probably went a little higher, but 500 00:23:49,240 --> 00:23:52,439 Speaker 9: I'm definitely still gonna play to that value. And you know, 501 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 9: I just and so appreciate of the Arizona Cornals giving 502 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 9: me opportunity, and I just want to be able to 503 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,119 Speaker 9: maximize that and give them everything I have. 504 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:01,920 Speaker 4: If an Arizona treated you so far, have you seen 505 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 4: a scorpion or a rattlesnake or anything yet? 506 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:06,240 Speaker 9: Nah, I haven't seen none of that, and I you know, 507 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 9: I hope not to see none of that. 508 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,800 Speaker 4: How about the heat versus Louisiana? What do you what 509 00:24:11,800 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 4: do you think so far? 510 00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 9: You know, it's hard to say because they're saying Arizona 511 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 9: gets in the one twenties when eighteen, So. 512 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 4: At the worst, at the worst, that'll be the worst. 513 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 4: That'll that'll be when everything bottoms out. 514 00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, So you know Louisiana is real humid. You know, 515 00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:29,359 Speaker 9: you can you can almost cut the air, it's hard 516 00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,959 Speaker 9: to breathe. So, but one twenty is still one twenties, 517 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 9: so I'm gonna see how how that compares. 518 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,080 Speaker 4: So when you google you up, bjo Jolai, we notice 519 00:24:38,119 --> 00:24:41,360 Speaker 4: that there's royalty in your family tree that if I'm 520 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:44,479 Speaker 4: reading this right, you're the grandson of a Nigerian prince, 521 00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 4: descendant of a king. Tell us about that. 522 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 10: Uh? 523 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, So my grandfather on my mother's side, his name 524 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 9: is twenty seven seven. He's a he's a set of 525 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 9: seven twins. 526 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: Uh. 527 00:24:56,600 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 9: He's very known in Nigeria back at home, a great artist. 528 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 9: This musician traveled the world performing. Uh he still has 529 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,640 Speaker 9: arts and you know, certain museums and stuff like that. 530 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 9: But yeah, he was very well known, very recognized. So 531 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 9: that's another thing. Very prideful family and just being able 532 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 9: to represent, you know, the last name of of my 533 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 9: mom's family and my father's family. 534 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 4: That's outstanding. Can you play an instrument yourself or can 535 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 4: you draw? 536 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: Nah? 537 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 9: All the all the artistic and music side went to 538 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:28,560 Speaker 9: my sisters. We just played ball. 539 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 4: What are you most curious about in the NFL BJ, 540 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 4: I mean, what do you really want? I mean, you're 541 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 4: not probaly gonna be able to fight out until game day. 542 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 4: But what do you want to know about this league 543 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 4: that you haven't found out yet? 544 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:42,720 Speaker 9: I just I just want to know what it feels 545 00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:45,120 Speaker 9: like to be on the mountaintop, to win a super Bowl, 546 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 9: to compete with the best, to be considered one of 547 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,959 Speaker 9: the best. That's really what it is for me, building 548 00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 9: my legacy to hopefully become one of the best, one 549 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:54,919 Speaker 9: of the coveted players in the league. 550 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 4: I'll tell you what we look forward to seeing you 551 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:00,120 Speaker 4: against Paris Johnson Junior in camp. I have a feeling 552 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,120 Speaker 4: that Iron's gonna sharpen iron, that you guys are gonna 553 00:26:02,119 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 4: make each other better. Yes, sir, that's gonna be some 554 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:08,440 Speaker 4: good stuff. Well, look from Death Valley to the Valley 555 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 4: of the Sun. Welcome, Welcome to the Arizona Cardinals. It 556 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,120 Speaker 4: was great to have you. Thanks Pja, thank you. All Right, 557 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:15,560 Speaker 4: there you go talking a little pass rushing there with 558 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 4: a Cardinal's second round pick. We'll continue with this edition 559 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 4: of the Big Red Rage, presented by santan Ford and 560 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:23,880 Speaker 4: Gilbert We are santan. 561 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 2: Ford Tune end zone. Got it back there, touchdown. 562 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 3: The Carter two looking along for the tank heat the 563 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 3: room inside of. 564 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,480 Speaker 2: The ten first in gold Tune. Look at first fifth 565 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 2: touchdown pass? Does he have it? Does he have it? 566 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:50,679 Speaker 2: You bet he does. 567 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 4: The Cougars get another one from their star quarterback, Clayton 568 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,240 Speaker 4: tone Let's hunt. 569 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,880 Speaker 2: He's flushed and looking and scrambling. 570 00:26:59,560 --> 00:26:59,800 Speaker 6: And. 571 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,880 Speaker 2: Wow, Clayton toned. 572 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 8: Cock flit away. 573 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:11,320 Speaker 4: Seventy touchdown passes the last two years of his college 574 00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 4: career at Houston, prolific passing stats. One of ten quarterbacks 575 00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 4: drafted in the first one hundred and fifty picks, Ron Wolfley, 576 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 4: that is the first time since nineteen ninety five, and 577 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 4: there were a dozen quarterbacks in the first five rounds, 578 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,880 Speaker 4: and that sets a modern draft record. And a lot 579 00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 4: of people wondering was that the Brock Party effect because 580 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 4: Clayton Tune as forty four career starts and those experienced 581 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 4: college quarterbacks started flying off the board on day number three. 582 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 4: It is the big Red Rage presented by santan Ford 583 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 4: and Gilbert. And if there's one thing we know, Ron Wolfley, 584 00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 4: it is that the NFL is a copycat league. And 585 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 4: I'm guessing a lot of teams, maybe even the Cardinals, 586 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,159 Speaker 4: are looking for the next Brock Party. 587 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say so. Potley brock Perty acquitted himself 588 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: pretty well when given the opportunity right now and then. 589 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 1: One of the great things about the National Football League, 590 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: especially the sport, the sport of football, it's the ultimate meritocracy, Paul. 591 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 1: It really is. You know what, you get what you earned. 592 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 1: Ninety nine point nine percent of the time, you get 593 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,920 Speaker 1: what you earned. You got to come in and you've 594 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: got to earn that right now. And Clayton Tune, he's 595 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,399 Speaker 1: very intriguing. He's got a little bit of size to him. 596 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 1: He's got a little movement to him as well. It's 597 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna be interesting to watch this guy in his development 598 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: because I think he's gonna be given that opportunity as well. 599 00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 4: Paul six three two twenty. He started games over five 600 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: different seasons at Houston. We know his comments, I'm the 601 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 4: best quarterback in this class. We're gonna get a comment, 602 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 4: you know. Well, Look, Jonathan Gannon was asked about it 603 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 4: years truly. I asked him just about that fact that 604 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 4: he made that proclamation after he was drafted. I'm sure 605 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 4: he still had the adrenaline flowing of hearing his name 606 00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 4: called and all that kind of stuff. And Jag essentially said, 607 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 4: you know what, I'm fine with that, But it's even 608 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: better when you speak soft and carry a big stick. 609 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:04,320 Speaker 4: So you know, what do you think? Because that's not 610 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 4: all that Clayton Tune said. He went on to say, quote, 611 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 4: I'm a natural leader. Yeah, people follow me. I elevate 612 00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 4: everyone around me. People see the work I put in. 613 00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 4: I have that no flinch mentality when things get tough. 614 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, And honestly, he's going to be given that 615 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: opportunity to show that he does have that no flinch 616 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: when things get tough out here. It's great, you've got 617 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,000 Speaker 1: a how many times have you heard me talk about this? 618 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,560 Speaker 1: But as a quarterback, you have got to be a 619 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: confident person. You truly do. And that's going to be 620 00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600 Speaker 1: the challenge to Clayton Tune when he goes out there 621 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:42,080 Speaker 1: and realizes that these schemes are much more difficult than 622 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: college schemes, that the speed of the game is much 623 00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 1: different than a college game because everybody out on that 624 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: field can run. Everybody out on that field is a 625 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: specimen to some degree. Everybody out on that field is 626 00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,960 Speaker 1: a good football pl It becomes very very tough. But 627 00:30:02,440 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: once again, would you rather have your quarterback, be confident 628 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,920 Speaker 1: or not be confident. You know what, I'll take him 629 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 1: as a confident. I'll take that quarterback that is confident, 630 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 1: But you also have to be real. 631 00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 4: And by the way, per Pro Football Focus, he had 632 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,400 Speaker 4: the best passing grade in all of college football last 633 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 4: year and he had the highest on target percentage. So 634 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 4: he's accurate, he has good anticipation. We'll see if he's 635 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,320 Speaker 4: given every chance to compete for that backup playing time 636 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,320 Speaker 4: behind Kyler Murray. Speaking of the Cardinals franchise quarterback, we 637 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 4: got an update recently on the Dave Pash podcast from 638 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 4: the GM maniasin Port. 639 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 11: Kyler's here every day. Kyler's grinding, he's working hard, he's 640 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,120 Speaker 11: getting better, he's improving every day. I don't have a timeline. 641 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 11: I don't have an update on that. We're going to 642 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 11: put him out there when he's ready. He's doing everything 643 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 11: he can now. He's in meetings, he's learning, he's trying 644 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 11: to take in the new offense and doing what he 645 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 11: can on that front. He just can't be out on 646 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,480 Speaker 11: the field right now, and he is just physically not 647 00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 11: ready to do that. 648 00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 4: I mean, Kyler is cited around the Cardinals facility pretty 649 00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:04,760 Speaker 4: much on a daily basis. He's definitely been putting in 650 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 4: the work the rehab hours they've been there. There's a 651 00:31:08,000 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 4: lot of bullish reports on how he's progressing. Jonathan Gannon 652 00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 4: was very positive in his response to the media less 653 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:16,000 Speaker 4: than a week ago, but then he sort of ended 654 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 4: the answer with he's still got a long ways to 655 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: go quote unquote of courses. Our Craig grill Will pointed 656 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 4: out he also said that about the entire team at 657 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 4: one point, We've got a long ways to go. So 658 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,120 Speaker 4: you don't know if that's really specific to Kyler necessarily 659 00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 4: in his rehab schedule, but beyond Kyler Wolf because it 660 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 4: is uncertain, is it going to be back in the 661 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: first month, the second month, nobody knows. How wide open 662 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 4: do you think the competition is behind Kyler? 663 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:43,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, boy, that is a great question, Paul. Really. First 664 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: of all, let me just say that I believe Kyler 665 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Murray based on some of the reports that I have heard, 666 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: I do believe that Kyler Murray is progressing very very well. 667 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: How well that is going to be the question right there, 668 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: how well how many games will he miss? We're gonna 669 00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,760 Speaker 1: have to wait and see on that. In terms of 670 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,960 Speaker 1: who's going to be the backup PAULI right now, I 671 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: don't know how you don't go into Week one with 672 00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: Colt McCoy as your quarterback. I just have a hard 673 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: time believing that it's not going to be Colt McCoy 674 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: going in week one now Clayton Tune. How well is 675 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: Clayton Tune going to pick up the scheme? I have 676 00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,520 Speaker 1: no idea. How well is he going to pick up 677 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: the offense. I don't know how well is he going 678 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:28,920 Speaker 1: to play in preseason games. I've got no idea, But 679 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,800 Speaker 1: I do think Colt McCoy is going to be the 680 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: starting quarterback for this team week one, and then week two, 681 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 1: and maybe after that as long as Kyler is out, 682 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,520 Speaker 1: I think you're still going to have Colt McCoy be 683 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: the starter. 684 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 4: Well, here's Drew Stanton, thirteen year NFL veteran former Cardinals 685 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 4: backup quarterback, and this is from the Red Sea Report 686 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:52,800 Speaker 4: this week, and how Clayton Tune should handle the competition. 687 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 12: I think that experience is so valuable and the amount 688 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,200 Speaker 12: that he has played at the college level, amount of 689 00:32:59,240 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 12: football that he's is going to help him tremendously because 690 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 12: he's not going to get a ton of reps. So 691 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 12: you've got to be able to learn through different avenues 692 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 12: and different mechanisms, and by watching, you've got to be 693 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 12: able to sit there and assimilate this knowledge. There's different 694 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 12: ways to make sure you're continuing to improve and staying engaged, 695 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 12: because if you take a day off, if you just say, oh, 696 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 12: I don't have any reps today, you're going to fall behind. 697 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 12: You're going to fall behind quickly, and once you lose 698 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 12: any footing in a quarterback room, it could be over 699 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 12: very fast. 700 00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 4: David Blouse started a couple of games so the Cardinals 701 00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,280 Speaker 4: last year. Down the stretch, we saw that Jeff Driscoll 702 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: started games for the Texans last year, so everyone ahead 703 00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,760 Speaker 4: of him on the depth chart definitely has NFL experience 704 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 4: as rookie. Obviously he does not. But Drew also made 705 00:33:41,680 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: another point Wolfe. I thought this was interesting that with 706 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,479 Speaker 4: a dual threat quarterback on the board and Dorian Thompson 707 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 4: Robinson from UCLA, the Cardinals went after Clayton Tune. Yes, 708 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 4: they did not go after a Kyler klone so to speak, 709 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 4: in terms of body type and skill set. They went 710 00:33:57,280 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: after the six three too. Twenty more of a pocket. 711 00:33:59,680 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 1: Quarter PAULI here, you know exactly what I'm going to 712 00:34:04,520 --> 00:34:07,240 Speaker 1: say about that, and that's because now all of a sudden, 713 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,640 Speaker 1: you're going to see an offense I think that is 714 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,399 Speaker 1: going to try to blend the old and the new, 715 00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,480 Speaker 1: and offense that is going to try to put their 716 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: quarterback more under center, an offense that is going to 717 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,799 Speaker 1: attack the line of scrimmage with a big back like 718 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: James Connor, attack the line of scrimmage and then use 719 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:26,560 Speaker 1: the power of play action that has been around for 720 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:29,719 Speaker 1: a long long time. Listen, I know that the New 721 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: Age offense and the zone read in the RPOs are 722 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: very very effective, but the only thing that makes them 723 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,759 Speaker 1: more effective is if you're also able to put your 724 00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,200 Speaker 1: quarterback under center and then use one of the oldest 725 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: tactics in the game of football, and that is play 726 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: action to use that in rundown situation. JG as a 727 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:55,440 Speaker 1: head coach and former defensive coordinator, JG understands the power 728 00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 1: of having a quarterback under center running to a meshpoint. 729 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: You have the ball, Is he going to hand the 730 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 1: ball off? Or is he not going to hand it? 731 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:03,839 Speaker 4: All? 732 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: You guessed wrong, and if you guess wrong, You're host. 733 00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: JG understands that, paul In. Because of that, it makes 734 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,080 Speaker 1: me think we're going to see a lot more under 735 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,720 Speaker 1: center in the Arizona Cardinals future. 736 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,720 Speaker 4: And don't dismiss the fact that the Cardinals quarterbacks coach 737 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 4: Israel Wolfork that he worked with Clayton Tune the entire 738 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: week of the Senior Bowl. He was the quarterback coach, 739 00:35:28,040 --> 00:35:31,240 Speaker 4: so he got real familiar with the sort of person 740 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 4: in quarterback that Clayton Tune is, and obviously they felt 741 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 4: comfortable enough in making him the one hundred and thirty 742 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 4: ninth pick of the NFL Draft. Another standout from the 743 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:43,120 Speaker 4: Senior Bowl was Michael Wilson. And having watched the little 744 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 4: bit of rookie mini camp they allowed us to watch, 745 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,239 Speaker 4: I mean, and look, it might have been because he 746 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 4: was one of the few guys running full speed. He's 747 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 4: running routes. But Michael Wilson, just the size, the fluidity 748 00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 4: the route running. He crushed his interview with the media, 749 00:35:57,520 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 4: I mean, very polished. He's already a top five in 750 00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,840 Speaker 4: interview on this team. Very well spoken. I thought he 751 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:06,560 Speaker 4: stood out. John Gaines was getting reps at center. Now 752 00:36:06,600 --> 00:36:08,800 Speaker 4: he was one of two offensive linemen. We're going to 753 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 4: talk about that coming up here along with Paris Johnson Junior. 754 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 4: But Wolf, just in general, this rookie class, to me, 755 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,320 Speaker 4: has a real chance to get a lot of playing 756 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,480 Speaker 4: time this season. 757 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paula, it's so interesting to hear you mentioned Michael 758 00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,879 Speaker 1: Wilson as well. That guy, that guy's got a little 759 00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 1: verticality to him. He brings a little size, and I 760 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: think that's what the Cardinals need. I wouldn't be surprised 761 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,680 Speaker 1: to see him really step forward as a rookie. Hey. 762 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 4: Single game tickets on sale now. Go to Azycardinals dot 763 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 4: com slash buy tickets to secure your seats today. Asycardinals 764 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: dot com slash buy tickets. All Right, Paris Johnson Junior, 765 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 4: he's got to be a Day one starter, right, number 766 00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 4: six overall and if so, where there is at least 767 00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 4: three different options by our account. We'll break it down 768 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:55,240 Speaker 4: when we come back on the Big Red Rage presented 769 00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:56,880 Speaker 4: by Santan forward In Gilbert. 770 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,240 Speaker 8: With the sixth pick in the twenty twenty three. 771 00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:12,080 Speaker 9: NFL Draft, the Arizona Cardinals select Paris Johnson Junior, ohios. 772 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 11: Kai high high football character, highly intelligent, well spoken, mature, dependable, 773 00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,920 Speaker 11: and you can tell that he's made of the right things, 774 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,720 Speaker 11: the things that we want not only our offensive lineman 775 00:37:25,760 --> 00:37:28,560 Speaker 11: to be made of, but but our entire team. 776 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,680 Speaker 4: As GM moniasin Fort on his draft selection number six overall. 777 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 4: Remember the Cardinals started round one in this year's draft 778 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 4: at number three, then they traded down to number twelve, 779 00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,040 Speaker 4: then they came back up to number six. And the 780 00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 4: more I hear about how it went down in the 781 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:50,280 Speaker 4: war room, Ron woofully, including this week, anecdotally, most everyone 782 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,239 Speaker 4: other than maniasin Fort was gripping big time when the 783 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:57,840 Speaker 4: clock got under two minutes and he still had several 784 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 4: teams on the horn, one on his celf phone, one 785 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,399 Speaker 4: on the house phone, and they're like, money, we're under 786 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:07,320 Speaker 4: two minutes to go here, buddy, And he was cool 787 00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 4: and calm for his very first draft ever as the 788 00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 4: I mean decision maker running that thing. And the Cardinals 789 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 4: end up with Houston's first round pick next year. By 790 00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:19,520 Speaker 4: the way, speaking of Houston, real quick, you realize Week eleven, 791 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,560 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior against Will Anderson. Yes, Paulli, I mean 792 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,320 Speaker 4: Will Anderson, who led college football D one with twenty 793 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: seven and a half sacks the last two years against 794 00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson three sacks allowed on eight hundred and eighty 795 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,279 Speaker 4: two pass blocks snaps in his college career, according to 796 00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 4: Pro Football Focus. 797 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:42,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, Paully, honestly, right now, it's gonna be interesting to 798 00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 1: see where they star Paris Johnson Junior. I would put 799 00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: him at left guard. That seems like the natural fit 800 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:52,360 Speaker 1: right there, knowing you've got a left tackle and DJ humphreyes. 801 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: Knowing you got Calvin Beachum on the other side, Will 802 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 1: Hernandez at right guard. The center position is still going 803 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:02,239 Speaker 1: to be up for grant, but Paris Johnson Junior. I 804 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:04,840 Speaker 1: could see him at left guard. Right there. I would 805 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 1: put him there because I'd want him to be in 806 00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: a position where he's getting in a left handed stance 807 00:39:10,480 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 1: as an offensive lineman, because you probably see him at 808 00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,440 Speaker 1: some point in time being your franchise left tackle going forward. 809 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,200 Speaker 1: Provided he develops, of course, and becomes everything you think, 810 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 1: so it'd be a much easier transition kicking out to 811 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: left tackle when DJ Humphries is done. When that is, 812 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,800 Speaker 1: I do not know, but I love the fact Paris 813 00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,879 Speaker 1: Johnson Junior is going to be working closely with DJ. Now. 814 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 4: DJ Humphries was sitting here Wolf. You know how Deeed 815 00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 4: would react. Right, I'm twenty seven to twenty eight, I'm 816 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 4: in my prime and you already got me out of here. Yeah, 817 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,400 Speaker 4: I'm in a long term contract. 818 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:45,600 Speaker 2: Now. 819 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 4: There is ability for the Cardinals maybe to get out 820 00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,480 Speaker 4: of the contract starting after this season. But what's wrong 821 00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:52,799 Speaker 4: with DJ Humphries over the next three or four years 822 00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 4: as your franchise left tackle and then Paris Johnson Junior 823 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:58,200 Speaker 4: manning the right side right tackle. 824 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with it, Polly whatsoever? There really isn't. 825 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,239 Speaker 1: But I think you know, four years is a lifetime 826 00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: in the National Football League. You have no idea what's 827 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:12,600 Speaker 1: going to happen, both contractually for the most part and 828 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:14,719 Speaker 1: from an injury perspective. 829 00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:18,319 Speaker 4: Well, here's Paris Johnson Junior to the media recently, just 830 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,840 Speaker 4: him explaining the difference to him between guard and tackle. 831 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:24,799 Speaker 10: I think just the timing of everything. I think on 832 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 10: how how quickly you bring your hands, being able to 833 00:40:28,120 --> 00:40:31,000 Speaker 10: realize where your help is. Because of guard you're in 834 00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 10: a box and tackle you're in space. To Coach Adams, 835 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 10: you know, that's one that's I feel like, regardless of 836 00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 10: where I'm at, being with coach Adams. I think he 837 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 10: knows how to develop his guys to play that sort 838 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,120 Speaker 10: of way, you know, regardless of position. 839 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 4: It's a line coach, Clayton Adams. He's referring to there, 840 00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,040 Speaker 4: all right, So let me throw this at j Ron 841 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,600 Speaker 4: Wellflee rookie mini camp last week in the one hour 842 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 4: the media was allowed to observe, there was John Gaines 843 00:40:56,480 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 4: snapping the ball and lined up to his right was 844 00:41:00,520 --> 00:41:04,520 Speaker 4: Paris Johnson Junior. Now this was on air, but there 845 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 4: was Paris Johnson. He could have been lined up left, 846 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:09,759 Speaker 4: but he wasn't. He was lined up right. So we 847 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,799 Speaker 4: took that and from that, I'm telling you, I think 848 00:41:12,840 --> 00:41:15,280 Speaker 4: it's gonna be D. Jefferies' left tackle. Your right tackle 849 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,120 Speaker 4: is going to be Paris Johnson Junior. Calvin Beacham becomes 850 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 4: your swing, a guy who got you out of a 851 00:41:20,400 --> 00:41:22,880 Speaker 4: game last year. A left tackle also has experience on 852 00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:27,280 Speaker 4: the interior. Will Hernandez I think goes back to left guard, 853 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,440 Speaker 4: where he played his first four years in the league. 854 00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:32,680 Speaker 4: And now you've got to figure out center and right guard. 855 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, Polly right, you're kidding me. You're telling 856 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: me that Calvin Beacham, what did they sign him to 857 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:41,160 Speaker 1: a two year contract, Paul, was it a two year contract? Yes, 858 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,520 Speaker 1: you're going to tell me that Calvin Beacham is not 859 00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:44,360 Speaker 1: going to be a starter. 860 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 4: I think he's a perfect at this point in his career. 861 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:51,080 Speaker 4: He's the perfect swing guy and wolf. If all these 862 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,279 Speaker 4: rookies this year are going to learn on the job, 863 00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:55,800 Speaker 4: why not Paris Johnson Junior. Look at what the Seahawks 864 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 4: did last year with their two rookie tackles. Look what 865 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,600 Speaker 4: the Giants did last year at the right tackle Evan Neil, 866 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,120 Speaker 4: who was a top ten pick as well. I just 867 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,720 Speaker 4: see that as a trend right now in the NFL, 868 00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:07,360 Speaker 4: and I think the Cardinals follow along. 869 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:10,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what, honestly, I see Paris Johnson Junior 870 00:42:10,360 --> 00:42:15,560 Speaker 1: being the left guard. We'll take you to a wager that, Yeah, 871 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,359 Speaker 1: you know what, the left guard for the most part 872 00:42:17,560 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 1: gets more help and gives more help than anybody else. 873 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: I like him. 874 00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:21,919 Speaker 2: There. 875 00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,920 Speaker 4: Here's my other hot take. I think because of that, 876 00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,880 Speaker 4: they have three viable tackles. Josh Jones is on the 877 00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 4: trading block. That's what I think. But I have no idea. 878 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:32,120 Speaker 4: I'm just projecting. Maybe they think Josh Jones is your 879 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:35,160 Speaker 4: left guard, since he's much more comfortable on the left 880 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 4: than he is on the right. I don't know. I 881 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:40,560 Speaker 4: also have no idea what they're thinking necessarily at center 882 00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:42,960 Speaker 4: right now. If you had to play a game, I 883 00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 4: presume it would be Yelda Froholt, just because he has 884 00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,360 Speaker 4: several years of NFL experience and actually started four or 885 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: five games last year at center in a pinch for 886 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 4: the Browns. But John Gaines is very well thought of 887 00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,279 Speaker 4: and there he was snapping during Rocky Mini camp. You 888 00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:57,880 Speaker 4: got a gut feel on the center spot. 889 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 11: Wolf. 890 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think it's good to be yelled to 891 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: fro Holt. I do, PAULI I think it's going to 892 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,399 Speaker 1: be him. He's going to be given the first opportunity 893 00:43:05,440 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 1: to go out there and win the job. You know, 894 00:43:07,800 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 1: with John gains they needed somebody to snap the ball, 895 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,080 Speaker 1: and I know he can play center. I know that's 896 00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 1: part of his repertoire. Yet at the same time, I 897 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:19,520 Speaker 1: think Yelda has got a huge advantage, and the reason 898 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: being is because he's actually played at this level, and 899 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:26,200 Speaker 1: not only that, Polly, he's played in the offense that 900 00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: Drew Petsing is going to bring to the Cardinals. 901 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, that is true. There's no doubt about that. And 902 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,880 Speaker 4: he's a great personality, yelled to fro Holt. You know 903 00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 4: what he refers to himself as I doubt Paul the 904 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 4: Danish army knife because he's from Denmark. 905 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:41,440 Speaker 1: The Danish army Knife. 906 00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 4: That's what he calls himself. It's outstanding, Paul. 907 00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: I don't know, Yelda, can I talk to you for 908 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,319 Speaker 1: a minute. I don't know if you actually want to 909 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:51,640 Speaker 1: go out and tell people that. 910 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,799 Speaker 4: No, it's he's got a good personality. He's you know, 911 00:43:55,920 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 4: he's he's Dutch. He grew up, you know, and then 912 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,160 Speaker 4: he came over to America and so it's solid. He 913 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:04,640 Speaker 4: uses Atlas stones as part of his workout, like the 914 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:08,000 Speaker 4: World's Strongest Man competition. That's what he uses part of 915 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 4: his workout. 916 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,640 Speaker 1: You know. I want to go back, Paulie. Not that 917 00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,759 Speaker 1: I'm ignoring your workout talk right there. I just want 918 00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: to go back to Will Hernandez at right guard as well. 919 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:19,319 Speaker 1: You're talking about moving him over to left guard now. 920 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 1: Will Hernandez at right guard was the best offensive lineman 921 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,319 Speaker 1: the Horizontal Cardinals had through the first eight weeks until 922 00:44:27,320 --> 00:44:27,960 Speaker 1: he got hurt. 923 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:32,000 Speaker 4: I'm not going to disagree with that, I'm not, And 924 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 4: you know what, that's just just rampant speculation. On my point, 925 00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 4: I think the interior line is a complete unknown right now. 926 00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, it really is. In fact, what you know, you know, 927 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,160 Speaker 1: Will's gonna start at one of the Oh. 928 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:47,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just the where and you know, beyond d 929 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,880 Speaker 4: Jumfries and Will Hernandez, you know, we have no idea 930 00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:53,959 Speaker 4: what a new coaching staff and a new GM thinks 931 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 4: of all these players. True Season six, Episode three, Cardinals 932 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,400 Speaker 4: Flight Plans streaming now, YouTube, dot com, Slash AZ Cardinals 933 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:05,719 Speaker 4: Special Thanks as always Jim Amahundra, Lauren cobl B. J 934 00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 4: O Jalari was our special guest for Ron Wolfley on 935 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 4: Paul CALVC. This has been the Big Red Rage presented 936 00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:12,640 Speaker 4: by santan Ford in Gilbert. 937 00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:16,760 Speaker 2: Number one. 938 00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:23,800 Speaker 3: Til you've been listening to the Big Red Rage presented 939 00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:29,040 Speaker 3: by santan Ford in Gilbert. Are you santan Ford State Farm? 940 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 3: Talk to an agent today at eight hundred State Farm 941 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:39,120 Speaker 3: and buy Arizona Cardinals podcasts. Visit Azcardinals dot com Slash podcasts. 942 00:45:39,560 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 3: This has been an exclusive presentation of the Arizona Cardinals 943 00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:43,839 Speaker 3: Football Club.