WEBVTT - Side In My DMs 0:00:01.320 --> 0:00:04.960 Hey, viewers, Sniffy's Cruising Confessions is an explicit podcast about 0:00:05.000 --> 0:00:09.280 queer sex. Filter dirty words and unfiltered descriptions of sexual activities. 0:00:09.560 --> 0:00:13.520 If hearing about orgies, anonymous sex, kink, fetish, and more 0:00:13.640 --> 0:00:17.119 offends your sensibilities, you might want to skip this. Viewer 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:20.520 discretion is advised. It's definitely not for kids. 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:24.160 Gabe, it's time for Cruising Confession. Now, I'm going to 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.920 ask you this age old question. Are you a top 0:00:27.000 --> 0:00:27.520 or bottom? 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.880 I don't see how that's any of your business. No, 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:34.280 I'm kidding. It depends on the day, in my mood 0:00:34.320 --> 0:00:34.880 and the partner. 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:38.360 Okay, Yeah, I mean I think I lean maybe more 0:00:38.400 --> 0:00:42.160 toward topping from you. Yeah, I got I'm a tums girly. 0:00:42.280 --> 0:00:46.199 My stomach is like it's the ibs. Yeah, it's the 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:49.320 ibs for me. No, it's not even that bad. I 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:51.600 just like I have a harder time bottoming, I think, 0:00:51.680 --> 0:00:54.040 and it's something I've learned through life, and I try 0:00:54.040 --> 0:00:57.240 to keep an even keel. But yeah, sometimes I'm not 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:00.680 topping or bottoming. Sometimes I'll do something else entirely. Yeah, 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:01.080 how much? 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:06.319 Like, Oh that's a good question. I am like nine. 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.080 Percent top okay, but I will say currently I'm in 0:01:10.080 --> 0:01:10.800 my bottom era. 0:01:11.840 --> 0:01:15.440 Oh my god, we found christ time. I'm so excited 0:01:15.480 --> 0:01:17.600 for you. This is great, this is spectacular. 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.240 It's been fantastic, I will say, because I think it 0:01:20.280 --> 0:01:22.959 was like you, I really struggled to find that balance 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:26.160 in like stemic issues, and I think I've got something 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:28.760 that works really well. So like I'm more confident in 0:01:28.840 --> 0:01:31.759 my bottom. Meaning now I have another question for you. Oh, okay, 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.800 have you heard of sides? I have? Okay, I first 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:36.840 heard about it online. 0:01:37.080 --> 0:01:41.280 My understanding is that sides are people who prefer non 0:01:41.319 --> 0:01:45.080 penetrative sex. Yeah, which is like it's my understanding as well. Right, Yeah, 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:47.120 it's like that's a mood everybody's in. Sometimes that's an 0:01:47.160 --> 0:01:51.000 option on the UH on the catering menu, if you will, 0:01:51.080 --> 0:01:55.040 at the buffet of gay sex. It's interesting to me too, 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:57.480 that side is sort of like developing as this identity. 0:01:57.680 --> 0:01:59.440 I didn't understand the necessity for it at first. 0:01:59.520 --> 0:02:01.520 I was like, you always have non penetrative sex, you 0:02:01.520 --> 0:02:04.000 can always just be like I'm into oral, I'm into masturbating, whatever. 0:02:04.200 --> 0:02:05.800 Why do we have to like label it totally? 0:02:05.880 --> 0:02:07.760 Yeah, So like I get it, but I think because 0:02:07.800 --> 0:02:10.480 people are always asking the topper bottom question, it does 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:14.480 sort of necessitate this like alternative or this other like 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:17.560 category of how a person prefers to engage with their 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:18.280 sexual partners. 0:02:18.440 --> 0:02:19.840 Yeah, so I get it. I get it. 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:22.239 But I also feel like in every situation, in every 0:02:22.240 --> 0:02:25.640 person I meet, I'm not always feeling topper bottom vibes 0:02:25.639 --> 0:02:28.400 from them, Like I don't I want to be intimate 0:02:28.440 --> 0:02:31.679 with you sexually, but I don't. Necessarily the penetration is 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:33.760 not the part that I'm really that interested in. 0:02:34.120 --> 0:02:35.080 No, I do know what you mean. 0:02:35.120 --> 0:02:38.119 It's like sometimes I don't I find someone really hot, 0:02:38.160 --> 0:02:40.120 but I don't want to fuck. 0:02:40.840 --> 0:02:42.760 Yeah, I just want to like get naked and roll 0:02:42.800 --> 0:02:45.680 around exactly see where that goes, and like maybe later 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:46.399 we can get there. 0:02:46.440 --> 0:02:49.440 But like, I just want to be naked with you. Oh, 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:50.639 that's so sweet. Thank you. 0:02:50.880 --> 0:02:56.800 I've been waiting for you to ask for so long. Well, 0:02:56.840 --> 0:02:59.320 in case you had guessed. In today's episodes, we are 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:02.640 talking about all things sides, and we're inviting the Messiah 0:03:02.720 --> 0:03:05.520 of masturbation bait, Banded XCEL, who stops by to chat 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:07.920 about why he identifies as a side and what led 0:03:08.000 --> 0:03:10.959 him to create the Order of the bb XL and 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:15.320 nationwide Network for Masturbators of Color. Welcome to Stiffy's Cruising Confessions. 0:03:15.400 --> 0:03:16.959 I am Gabe Gone, I'm. 0:03:16.840 --> 0:03:21.400 Chris Patterson Rosso. Each week, Week's More the sublime world 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:23.799 of queer sex, cruising and relationship will. 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:26.119 Be talking to queer folks of all kinds. Ask them questions, 0:03:26.160 --> 0:03:28.800 swap sex stories, share intimate revelations. 0:03:28.919 --> 0:03:31.639 A lot of us are discovering ourselves in cruising spaces. 0:03:31.720 --> 0:03:33.800 This happened to me at this toilet stall, in the 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:36.440 library or the airport. I feel like everybody's gonna fuck 0:03:36.480 --> 0:03:37.200 a little harder here. 0:03:37.400 --> 0:03:37.800 Damn. 0:03:38.200 --> 0:03:40.240 So I've been like the neighborhood flat and I took 0:03:40.320 --> 0:03:44.240 pride in that. I was so afraid but yet so intrigued. 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.400 And the more I gave him, the more he could take. 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:50.800 If you're having sex on Sniffy's, you already have a 0:03:50.800 --> 0:03:51.680 moral deficit. 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:56.880 Our guest this week is a legend in the making. 0:03:57.280 --> 0:04:01.040 Bait Banded Xcel is a groundbreaking hip hop artist, content creator, 0:04:01.280 --> 0:04:03.720 and its self proclaimed messiah of masturbation. 0:04:04.040 --> 0:04:06.760 He's also the CEO and founder of the Order of 0:04:06.760 --> 0:04:10.960 the BBXL, Babros and International Network for Masturbators of Color, 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:14.920 which you can find at bbxlbabros dot com. His debut single, 0:04:14.960 --> 0:04:16.920 beat that Dick Up has become an anthem in the 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:20.120 beater community. His album Chronicles of a Bat is in 0:04:20.160 --> 0:04:22.280 the works now. You can find this adult content on 0:04:22.279 --> 0:04:24.839 OnlyFans and just for fans at bait Bandit XL. 0:04:25.160 --> 0:04:27.760 Welcome to cruising Defessions bait Banded XCEL. How you doing, 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:31.720 what's going on? You're feeling welcome. Do you remember getting 0:04:31.760 --> 0:04:34.000 any messages about masturbation from your parents? 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.440 Ooh, so my sex talk at the house was it 0:04:37.480 --> 0:04:39.760 was corny as hell. Man at the time. I had 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:43.039 my stepfather. He told me and my brother at the 0:04:43.080 --> 0:04:45.520 same time. Oh okay, and me and my brother, you 0:04:45.520 --> 0:04:47.680 know what I'm saying, Like, you know, we had that talk, 0:04:47.720 --> 0:04:49.520 but it was it was just weird. It didn't give 0:04:49.560 --> 0:04:52.560 me much information. Okay. I think he wanted it that way. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:55.520 Okay, Yeah, I was like, damn, at least you got one. 0:04:55.560 --> 0:04:56.360 We didn't get one at all. 0:04:56.440 --> 0:04:57.320 I didn't get one at all. 0:04:57.360 --> 0:04:59.479 My mom ordered a book and my brother and I 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:01.200 opened this back and it was like a book about 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.719 what's happening to my body in sex? 0:05:02.760 --> 0:05:05.360 And like that was the talk that's wild. Yeah, at 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.360 least you've got literature that I grew up in Florida. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.800 Man, Like sex education in Florida was like, these are 0:05:09.880 --> 0:05:12.719 condoms you will die if you don't use. We're done right, 0:05:12.760 --> 0:05:15.520 Like it was wild. I do remember the growing up. 0:05:15.680 --> 0:05:18.880 I experimented with masturbation, like once I hit puberty, and 0:05:18.920 --> 0:05:22.000 I would obviously masturbate in the mornings, like I would 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.000 masturbate and then shower, and my parents realized that I was 0:05:25.040 --> 0:05:26.520 spending too long, so they would just. 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:27.960 Turn off the hot water on me. 0:05:28.279 --> 0:05:30.960 It was so rude. I was like this anti. 0:05:30.720 --> 0:05:33.640 Masturbation campaign to stop. 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:35.000 I'm like it was wild. 0:05:35.000 --> 0:05:35.440 How about you? 0:05:35.440 --> 0:05:36.960 Did you ever experience anything like that where you kind 0:05:36.960 --> 0:05:39.760 of had to like hide at first while like your 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:40.440 body and stuff. 0:05:40.880 --> 0:05:43.160 I definitely had to hide some things. I remember when 0:05:43.240 --> 0:05:45.600 I first got caught and I lot my ass off 0:05:45.600 --> 0:05:48.160 about what it was too. I did the shower thing, 0:05:48.680 --> 0:05:50.800 and I also would take long because you know, after 0:05:50.839 --> 0:05:53.360 you shoot your night everywhere, you know you gotta wash. 0:05:56.760 --> 0:05:59.760 So so once I figured like you know what I'm 0:05:59.760 --> 0:06:01.680 gonna I'm gonna start doing this in the bed. I 0:06:01.720 --> 0:06:04.040 wouldn't go to bathroom the morning, I had a rag 0:06:04.160 --> 0:06:07.720 I would just use, and I used it and used it. Okay, 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.000 So one day I came home and my mother was 0:06:11.000 --> 0:06:14.279 in my mother fucking room cleaning it and she was 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:17.080 underneath the bed, and as soon as I walked in, 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:22.120 she was like, what's this? And so I told her 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:25.240 I was being lazy and I didn't want to get 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.320 up to get t ship about blowing my nose on it. 0:06:30.200 --> 0:06:34.680 You're blowing something, yeah, so big Bendy. We've talked a 0:06:34.680 --> 0:06:36.920 little bit about sort of, you know, growing up and 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:40.880 learning about your body and masturbation, but I'm curious, at 0:06:40.880 --> 0:06:43.800 what point did you start to think about your sexuality 0:06:43.960 --> 0:06:46.960 and other people and sexual experiences with other folks. 0:06:47.120 --> 0:06:49.960 I knew that at a younger age, like I was 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:53.960 attracted to both men and women, but I definitely at 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:57.120 that time didn't know like what gay and bisexual any 0:06:57.160 --> 0:06:58.520 of that shit was, you know what I'm saying. I 0:06:58.600 --> 0:07:00.920 just knew that I like both, you know, and I 0:07:00.920 --> 0:07:03.200 don't even know that there would you know what people's 0:07:03.200 --> 0:07:05.680 opinions about that will be? And at what point into 0:07:05.720 --> 0:07:09.040 your life did you encounter the term side? So that's 0:07:09.120 --> 0:07:11.680 new for me. You know what I'm saying because I 0:07:11.760 --> 0:07:15.160 just knew that there were people who consider themselves either 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.080 solo sexual or they just only you know, did mutual 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:22.400 masturbation and or sex. You know, that was it. That's 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.320 not really a name or nothing like that for it. 0:07:25.440 --> 0:07:27.160 So it's new to me. I guess that just has 0:07:27.200 --> 0:07:29.200 to be a name for you know everything. Yeah, what 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:32.360 is it being aside mean to you? I think for me, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:39.640 being a side is specifically being into everything except for penetration. 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:43.240 You know, as tops they love to penetrate, bottoms love 0:07:43.320 --> 0:07:46.480 to be penetrated, verse they love it both ways. Sides 0:07:46.560 --> 0:07:49.880 they just simply want to engage in everything else except 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.119 for penetration. I think it's really simple, but unfortunately people 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.080 do make it complicated for no reason. 0:07:56.680 --> 0:07:59.800 Truly, And just like you can be a top one 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.920 day bottom another, like maybe you're your side for the week. 0:08:03.760 --> 0:08:06.240 I did also want to try to unpack a lot 0:08:06.240 --> 0:08:09.280 of the conversation that's happening online surrounding sides. What are 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:11.400 some of the judgments that you see, not just when 0:08:11.400 --> 0:08:14.160 it comes to size, but like Baiter's queer folks engaging 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.440 in non penetrative sex and naming it. 0:08:17.360 --> 0:08:20.400 Yeah, man, we get the whole childish thing a lot, 0:08:20.600 --> 0:08:24.040 you know, what the hell is aside people, I think 0:08:24.080 --> 0:08:26.480 that everybody knows what that is. But people have just 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.120 taken this you know, fake outrage way too far and 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.760 try to, you know, draft up these tweets online to 0:08:32.920 --> 0:08:36.200 bash the Bay community. Like I said, I just I 0:08:36.200 --> 0:08:40.320 don't get it, you know, I think that, Well, what 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.720 I can say is, I'll tell you a short story. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:45.560 One time I had a Bay party that was like 0:08:45.559 --> 0:08:48.920 a pregame to a sex party linked up with you know, 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:51.920 a friend from the community who was hosting the sex 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.360 party that started like midnight. So I was like, Yo'll 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.400 let me host a bag party at the spot from 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:59.679 like ten to midnight. So we got to midnight, the 0:08:59.720 --> 0:09:03.000 second party started, but the betas was still there and 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:05.880 the whole circle. So a couple of bottoms came in 0:09:06.760 --> 0:09:09.920 and saw like all the betas like standing in circles, 0:09:09.960 --> 0:09:12.240 and they just was you know, circling the room trying 0:09:12.240 --> 0:09:16.760 to sendify signals saying something, and and the betas was 0:09:16.880 --> 0:09:19.320 just doing the damn thing, and two of them got 0:09:19.360 --> 0:09:21.840 pissed off and left, you know. So what I think 0:09:21.880 --> 0:09:24.720 it is is some people just can't fathom because of 0:09:24.880 --> 0:09:28.800 the limit of their own sexual experiences, that two people 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:32.200 can only want mutual masturbation from each other, you know, 0:09:32.280 --> 0:09:35.040 And it's about the experiences and the and the the 0:09:35.080 --> 0:09:37.520 way they feel that make them desire something like that. 0:09:37.600 --> 0:09:40.040 So you would never understand, you know, you got to 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.400 be open to it. So fuck all that shit. 0:09:43.520 --> 0:09:47.679 Man like you mentioned, we've always had terminology to describe 0:09:48.200 --> 0:09:52.200 acts besides topping or bottoming, right, mutual masturbation, oral, It's 0:09:52.240 --> 0:09:56.280 like there's many, Yeah, So it's like, I think we've 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.080 always known that there are options outside of this, But yeah, 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:01.520 I think the itself is sort of news, sort of 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:04.240 identifying a community or a group of people. And I think, 0:10:04.320 --> 0:10:07.160 you know, just to I'm curious about your understanding because 0:10:07.360 --> 0:10:10.960 my take on what I've heard and read is that 0:10:11.040 --> 0:10:13.560 it seems like not all sides are against anals. Some 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:17.680 might be more into oral or mutual masturbation than anal, 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.000 Some might have penetrative sex occasionally. So it seems like 0:10:21.080 --> 0:10:22.720 kind of a fluid word. Do you have the same 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:24.840 kind of understanding or viewpoint on it? 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:28.000 It is fluid, Honestly. You can go from talking about 0:10:28.040 --> 0:10:32.199 people who identify as sides versus those who identify as 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:35.400 a beta, you know, those who like the act of 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:40.760 masturbation with a solo, mutual, large group. Because you don't 0:10:40.800 --> 0:10:43.720 have to be a side to enjoy being a beta. 0:10:43.840 --> 0:10:46.600 You can also be a top, bottom, whatever, So I'll 0:10:46.600 --> 0:10:49.480 believe that. So it's like man sexuality in itself is 0:10:49.559 --> 0:10:51.880 just a spectrum. But I guess we just have to 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.760 have these certain labels so another person can know what 0:10:54.800 --> 0:10:56.240 you are into and what you're not into. 0:10:56.320 --> 0:10:58.560 Yeah, so let's actually talk a little bit about the 0:10:58.559 --> 0:11:00.679 baiting community. I think for a lot of people out there, 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.760 maybe the pandemic was the first time they might have 0:11:02.920 --> 0:11:06.800 heard this term or kind of seen like a baiting 0:11:06.880 --> 0:11:10.720 zoom room, right. I think a lot of the sort 0:11:10.760 --> 0:11:14.960 of safety precautions we had to take meant that masturbation, 0:11:15.280 --> 0:11:18.120 either like in front of somebody or being shared digitally 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:19.840 was sort of like one of the few ways we 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.119 could be intimate with people. 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:22.000 We were living with at the time. 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.720 So I'm curious, did you also discover the baiting community 0:11:25.720 --> 0:11:27.640 around this time or was this something that you've been 0:11:27.679 --> 0:11:29.720 involved with or saw earlier. 0:11:30.160 --> 0:11:33.600 I didn't see large zoom baits until the pandemic. Now, 0:11:33.640 --> 0:11:38.880 prior to that, I remember chat wounds on Yahoo Messenger. 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:46.080 I remember ouvuvu. Yes, I had OVU when I first 0:11:46.120 --> 0:11:49.880 got my first apartment alone. You know, as a beta, 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:56.080 getting your first apartment alone. It's over, bro, every room, listen, 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.400 every surface, every if I can get up there, I'm 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.160 up there. I'm doing it. Okay. So I discovered uvo 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:05.160 around that time, so I was having like one on one, 0:12:05.320 --> 0:12:07.720 but like to the point where they were like fifty 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:11.680 plus guys in a zoom like. That didn't start happening 0:12:11.679 --> 0:12:14.240 for me until the pandemics. 0:12:14.920 --> 0:12:17.160 Talk to me about your community, your online community which 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:18.480 is now international. 0:12:19.679 --> 0:12:23.760 Yeah, BBXLVA bros. It came out of the pandemic and 0:12:23.920 --> 0:12:27.120 came out of I actually listen. I was not the 0:12:27.160 --> 0:12:30.200 first person, of course, to ever host zoom baits, but 0:12:30.320 --> 0:12:33.760 I developed the pattern. I was consistent with putting them 0:12:33.800 --> 0:12:36.640 out there. I think I had like a schedule I 0:12:36.720 --> 0:12:39.920 used to do like Monday, Wednesdays and Fridays during the pandemic, 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:42.559 and then it just grew and grew and grew. So 0:12:42.880 --> 0:12:46.440 it got exhausting because you know, we would be on 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.640 their baiting and then somebody would have the link and 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:50.480 get on there and do something stupid or whatever you know, 0:12:50.559 --> 0:12:54.880 start screaming, playing loud music, doing whatever you know. So 0:12:54.960 --> 0:12:57.600 we had to become more secretive about the process. So 0:12:58.120 --> 0:13:01.079 emailing everybody became so much I created a digital group 0:13:01.960 --> 0:13:06.640 and then it progressed until becoming an organization. Bbxl BA Bros. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:06.679 --> 0:13:10.600 that's amazing. Everyone's there people who identify as all sexual positions, 0:13:10.600 --> 0:13:12.520 but they know that they would love to have a 0:13:12.520 --> 0:13:14.760 space that they can celebrate being the beta. 0:13:15.240 --> 0:13:19.680 When did you shift from the online sort of zoombait 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:21.880 sessions into in person events. 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:27.360 When bbxl BA Bros. Began to get bigger wet, there 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:29.640 was a point we wanted to stop and cap at 0:13:29.640 --> 0:13:33.040 two hundred members, and then even that wasn't enough because 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.440 of demand was still coming in twenty twenty one. So 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.839 everyone would always in the group chat talk about how 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:42.360 they really wish like the pandemic would harry up and 0:13:42.400 --> 0:13:44.559 be over so we can all try to meet each other. 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.640 Because inside this group we have been going for at 0:13:46.720 --> 0:13:49.360 least a year now, people have built friendships, people have 0:13:49.440 --> 0:13:53.800 built bonds, and so once the pandemics start clearing up 0:13:53.920 --> 0:13:56.160 just enough for people to come outside and start going 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.280 to public places again, we jumped right on and start 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:02.480 having parties. Some of our parties were in hotels first, 0:14:02.559 --> 0:14:05.280 and then we moved on to like getting airbnbs and 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:09.959 and different venues like that. So that's amazing. That's amazing. 0:14:10.000 --> 0:14:11.400 I think we all know the spaces for black and 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:14.160 brown people are very important, but I'm wondering why you 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:17.040 felt that it was specifically important to create a bait 0:14:17.080 --> 0:14:20.640 space that was focused on your community. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.840 Especially in my experience, there are more black and brown 0:14:23.880 --> 0:14:28.000 men who have not been able to open up their 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:33.480 sexuality in certain ways due to many reasons, most of 0:14:33.720 --> 0:14:38.000 all family, you know, religion, things like that. So to 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:41.320 create a space, you know, bb Excel Bate Bros. For 0:14:41.720 --> 0:14:44.480 those people, you know, those men to come in and 0:14:44.680 --> 0:14:47.000 just you know, so to speak, like their hair down 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:49.480 and just be themselves in their bait energy like that 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:50.680 was that was very important to me. 0:14:50.920 --> 0:14:53.000 Have you like received messages from people who have been like, 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:55.640 thank you so much for creating the space really needed. 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:58.640 How has that impacted you and how does that felt 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:01.200 To get those messages? They mean a lot and it 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:04.840 lets me know that all the work I put in 0:15:05.120 --> 0:15:07.800 to really make bb ex La Bros. What it is 0:15:07.840 --> 0:15:10.760 Today's worth it. Man, I lost the like a lot 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:14.200 of nights asleep, you know, putting things together, as I said, 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.920 you know, designing all you know, all the flyers. I 0:15:17.040 --> 0:15:21.000 designed our website from scratch, you know, which is really nice. 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.080 Thank you so much. Appreciate that. You know, do you 0:15:24.360 --> 0:15:29.520 watch mostly baiting porn? No, There's a wide variety of 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.760 things that get my dick card. Okay, listen, I have 0:15:32.840 --> 0:15:35.800 a lot of things that you know that that I 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.720 love to see. I'd love to see the bookmarks. What 0:15:40.280 --> 0:15:44.720 are some of the key all right, all right, all right, 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.640 so I watched I like, first of all, exhibitionist, you know, 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:54.160 public porn. All right, I love to see. I love 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:58.080 to watch some hardcore fuckings. Sometimes I do watch women 0:15:58.160 --> 0:16:01.040 as well sometimes, but I only watch like videos where 0:16:01.040 --> 0:16:04.960 they make themselves squirt. You know, that's kind of interesting squirting. Yeah. Oh, 0:16:05.000 --> 0:16:09.280 I watch videos of guys, you know, doing oral sex 0:16:09.320 --> 0:16:11.560 and women until they squirt in their face. That turns 0:16:11.600 --> 0:16:14.000 me on. I'd love to see, you know, the bottoms 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:18.000 with the dildos and the fucking machines like that's yeah, yeah, yeah. 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.840 Fuck machines are a whole other level to set up 0:16:20.920 --> 0:16:23.840 involved in having to execute that alone. 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.760 The investment truly. 0:16:25.600 --> 0:16:28.360 Yes, And also do you get a custom made does 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:31.120 somebody make it for it? It's wild, but fuck machines 0:16:31.120 --> 0:16:33.920 are Yeah, that's a next level expert pro move. 0:16:34.080 --> 0:16:35.880 It's a wide variety of things that turn me on. 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.160 I'm curious how much of your day would you say 0:16:38.440 --> 0:16:41.880 it involves baiting? How much time do you usually spend 0:16:41.960 --> 0:16:45.800 on it? You know, just creating content or for self pleasure? 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:50.040 Oh that's well, I'm gonna edge your mostly, you know, 0:16:50.240 --> 0:16:54.880 and that is something I've grown into and it works 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:57.720 better for me, especially with creating content every week or 0:16:57.840 --> 0:16:59.240 you know, just trying to make sure I got a 0:16:59.240 --> 0:17:02.200 good nutshot for those who subscribe. You know, people pay 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.080 their money. They want to see, you know, you got 0:17:04.119 --> 0:17:06.199 to give them what they want to see. But I 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:08.320 do have boundaries about that as well. But you know, 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:12.359 working from home, for me, I can bait whenever, you 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.000 know what I'm saying, whenever I'm feeling it. I just 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:17.680 gauge my day. Sometimes I take thirty minutes and take 0:17:17.720 --> 0:17:20.040 a smoke break and stroke, you know, then I'll you know, 0:17:20.119 --> 0:17:23.160 get back to my work, you know whatever for another hour. 0:17:23.320 --> 0:17:26.240 So take another break, do it again. So if I 0:17:26.240 --> 0:17:28.440 ain't got nothing to do. Sometimes, you know, I wake 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.240 up with the expectation like let me set my my 0:17:31.480 --> 0:17:32.960 you know, morning up, so I can go ahead and 0:17:32.960 --> 0:17:34.760 get a good bait in, you know for the first 0:17:34.800 --> 0:17:37.000 half of day, especially like on a Saturday. That's all 0:17:37.040 --> 0:17:40.800 we call it, Saturday bait community, you know, a good 0:17:40.880 --> 0:17:43.560 day to just get comfortable and beat your day. 0:17:43.760 --> 0:17:47.120 A lot of the contents I watch on Twitter is etching, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:50.440 and I'm really fascinated by it, and I try myself 0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.040 to do it, but like I just can never sustain. 0:17:53.520 --> 0:17:56.160 So you got to practice, you gotta know, Like how 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.199 I got there is learning what my pressure points were, 0:17:59.480 --> 0:18:02.879 where they wear all my dick, what made me more sensitive. 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:06.879 And I tried to, like just through practice come up 0:18:06.880 --> 0:18:09.800 with a combination of like moves that I could do 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:13.840 that are pleasurable but don't exactly take me, you know. 0:18:13.960 --> 0:18:16.520 And then I started testing myself like, oh my edge 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:19.640 right until I feel it. And then sometimes I will 0:18:19.720 --> 0:18:21.720 go almost a little too far and just like you know, 0:18:22.119 --> 0:18:24.360 not just a little bit, but exactly the whole thing. 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:26.480 You know, That's just how you get better at it, 0:18:26.720 --> 0:18:28.879 honestly for me, So I just have to practice more. 0:18:29.200 --> 0:18:31.880 Just practice more, you gotta. But you gotta be patient, 0:18:31.920 --> 0:18:33.719 you know what I'm saying, Like, you gotta put the 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:37.159 time in. You can't like you know, you can't rush it, 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:39.760 bro y'all gotta take some time. I've done it. I've 0:18:39.840 --> 0:18:43.320 edged through a whole football game before. My god, absolutely, 0:18:43.720 --> 0:18:45.159 how long are those? Sorry? 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:50.280 That's literally. 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:56.760 Oh man, I like reacting And I was like, wait, 0:18:56.840 --> 0:19:01.920 I don't know. It depends on the game, if they're 0:19:01.920 --> 0:19:04.080 going to ot, if they call a lot of timeouts. 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.960 So what are we talking? Bassline? Alright, so baseline, like 0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:12.320 for me, my personal baseline. I mean sometimes I go 0:19:12.440 --> 0:19:16.600 between on average thirty to forty five minutes of edging, 0:19:17.000 --> 0:19:19.720 you know, and like that's just one edging session in 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.199 the day for me. I like the edge because I 0:19:22.280 --> 0:19:25.680 like to feel horny o day sometimes, you know what 0:19:25.720 --> 0:19:27.960 I'm saying, especially like if I wear my rain out 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:28.760 stuff like that. 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.399 So yeah, all right, when we come back, we'll be 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:33.960 talking to bait Banded XL about being the world's first 0:19:33.960 --> 0:19:34.879 ever beta rapper. 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:39.720 Stay tuned, welcome back. 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