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Speaker 1: He's The Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on

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Speaker 1: your twenty four to seven home of the Black and

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Speaker 1: Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: I'll come up to this special edition of The Drive

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Speaker 2: here on the Steelers Audio Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 2: I'm Dale Lolly here with the Matt Williamson, and we

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Speaker 2: are alive from the Steelers joint practice here against the

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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills at Akroshuer Stadium and both teams on the

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Speaker 2: field right now going through some warm up sessions. The

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Speaker 2: Bills over to the left side of the field, the

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Speaker 2: Steelers to the riverside here on the right, and should

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Speaker 2: be a good day.

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Speaker 3: Matt, Yeah, I'm really excited about this. This is a

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Speaker 3: whole different look. It's in the stadium. Of course, we

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Speaker 3: got all the offensive guys in white. We got all

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Speaker 3: the defensive dudes in dark, you know, their respective colors,

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Speaker 3: and right now we're just you know, have the field

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Speaker 3: split in half, you know, doing some stretching and you

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Speaker 3: know warm ups like quite stuff. They're not quite straight

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Speaker 3: to stretch. But do you have any details? I mean,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna be on the air for two hours. Are

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Speaker 3: they gonna be one for the extent of that, you've clue. Okay, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So there'll be.

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Speaker 2: Stuff going on here in front of us the entire time.

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Speaker 2: We'll try to bring you a little insight into the

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Speaker 2: action and things of that nature. Uh. Steelers making a

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Speaker 2: roster move earlier today defensive beck Grayland Arnold on the

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Speaker 2: reserve injured list uh and signed defensive beckke Andre Thomas. Okay,

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Speaker 2: So there goes Grayland Arnold out the door. He has

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Speaker 2: done for the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's unfortunate because I thought he was very much

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Speaker 3: in the mix for starting Nickel. So not as bad

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Speaker 3: as the Bill's news, no them today. Yeah, Matt Milana,

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Speaker 3: who missed I think I know the better part. I

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Speaker 3: think that almost the entire bill season last year and

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Speaker 3: is one of the most valuable players off the ball linebacker.

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Speaker 3: He's out indefinitely. So he was injured the other day too.

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Speaker 3: So Bill's got some bad news. Steers got some bad news,

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Speaker 3: but not to that level. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Key Andre Thomas has appeared in five career NFL games,

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Speaker 2: four with the Chargers and one last year with the

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Speaker 2: Green Bay Packers. Would not surprise me if they don't

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Speaker 2: continue to turn Nichols, particularly.

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Speaker 3: Nichols yeah, yeah, especially if they've gone her capabilities as well.

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Speaker 3: I think they're searching right now, and that's bad news.

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Speaker 3: It's not a position where you know, a young, not

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Speaker 3: highly touted guy you know would be missed or it

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Speaker 3: will be missed there, I guess, is my point. I

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Speaker 3: mean most positions. That's not a knock on Arnold. He's

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Speaker 3: not an expensive, high pedigree guy. If you lose someone

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Speaker 3: like that, you can with stand it. At Nickel right now,

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Speaker 3: it's pretty bad news.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, for sure, and to your point, not nearly

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Speaker 2: as bad as Buffalo's news about Matt Milano being out

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Speaker 2: probably till in December at the earliest, but.

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Speaker 3: A blow, yeah, without question. I mean Nickels aren't hard

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Speaker 3: to find. But we're late in the process here, which

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Speaker 3: is mid August, and you need to start putting that's

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Speaker 3: the starting position. I don't know what's available in the

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Speaker 3: trade market. I don't know if that's something you have

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Speaker 3: to address or if you just keep bringing in, like

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Speaker 3: you said, churn them through. I like the word you use.

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Speaker 3: You just keep bringing a bunch of them in here

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Speaker 3: and see who stands out.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and we've seen I mean, there'll be guys cut.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, in that and you know, some teams

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Speaker 3: only keep one, right, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, So there'll be some veteran players who might

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Speaker 2: not make a roster here or there across the league

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Speaker 2: as we get into in the cutdown periods and teams

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Speaker 2: to make it and who's not. And we've seen some

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Speaker 2: of those deals kind of start to take place here

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Speaker 2: around the league, you know, teams trading late run swapping

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and I don't have names, but I did

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Speaker 3: want to throw that out there that there's probably several

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Speaker 3: the new rules after cutdown day, if the Steelers were

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Speaker 3: it's still be nice if it would have been here

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you're always looking to upgrade and that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Andy Widdles, you spoke a little bit ago, uh and

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Speaker 2: specifically about, you know, the Brandon Aayuk situation. She said, look,

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Speaker 2: that's an Omar question, but we're always looking to upgrade.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah, you know crazy what you do it? Right?

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Speaker 3: I mean you're you're having chats. I'm sure Omar's talking

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Speaker 3: those gms have a lot more conversations, maybe than the

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Speaker 2: And this is a unique opportunity. This is your point

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Speaker 2: that you get to see a guy not just in

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I'm really psyched for this, and I don't

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Speaker 3: With the exception of special teams, which I'm sure will

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Speaker 3: the environment's cool. I'm so so happy that we got

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Speaker 3: to we're allowed to talk about it. I thought this

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Speaker 3: have to bite our tongue. So I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to your point about Buffalo, they've got a very

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Speaker 2: established Nickel corner in Tron Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he plays a lot too. They live in Nickel

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Speaker 2: You know they've got They also went out and signed

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Speaker 2: you know, are they gonna keep multiple Nichols or is

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Speaker 3: Try to get him through on the practice squad. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: just scoop him up. I bet there's many examples like

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Speaker 3: and frankly, I don't know nickel depth charts all that well.

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Speaker 3: watching as much training camp stuff as possible, and like

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Speaker 3: you said, in this instance, you just focus on that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, you got your scouts here,

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Speaker 2: you get again, guys like Andy Wide or here, they

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Speaker 3: Just watch focus on a handful of bills and buffalos.

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Speaker 2: Oh, let's let's keep an eye on that. You know

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Speaker 2: they got they list for four guys as nickel corners

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think that'll be a priority for someone

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Speaker 2: And uh, Unfortunately for the this is a team that,

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Speaker 2: quite frankly, their receivers are not I.

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Speaker 3: Don't think that's where you want to go shot receiver.

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Speaker 3: They have some interesting guys, but none of them that

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Speaker 3: today because it's a pretty wholesale change at the wide

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Speaker 3: that their top three guys might all be best out

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Speaker 3: but I look at him more like a Marquise Colston

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Speaker 3: Josh Allen in this passing game? Or maybe it's all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe they just line up and have nobody outside

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Speaker 3: Or you never know, or are they're just constantly moving

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Speaker 2: Well, And some of that honestly has gotten skewed over

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Speaker 2: or they'll move them around so much that honestly, it

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Speaker 3: No, the hard part is not playing the slot stuff though,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they just don't necessarily have that guy

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Speaker 3: That's pretty much all he does.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, very inconsistent.

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Speaker 3: I'm not counting on him. So I did find it

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Speaker 3: interesting Tyler Mattakaevich pow wow and with a bunch of

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Speaker 2: For Trubisky though Terry quarterback room's different.

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't know any quarterbacks, yeah, I mean not

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Speaker 3: I just kind of got a chuckle out of it that.

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Speaker 3: As you might imagine, you know, Josh Allen and company,

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Speaker 3: the Bill Trubisky, the Bill's quarterbacks are all wearing the

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Speaker 3: red jerseys. Do not touch you know, we're not sacking

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Speaker 3: quarterbacks out here. Yeah, see what's don't have any those

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Speaker 3: red jerseys, never never have And I like that tradition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't change that just because you're you're practicing,

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Speaker 2: you know, you expect a decree of our degree of

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean the old lineman and fellow teammates

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Speaker 2: And we are back Dale Lalli. He is the Matt

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, this is a much better test no matter who,

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Speaker 3: But of course we've got a lot of NFL officials

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Speaker 3: I hadn't thought of that, but I bet you're right.

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Speaker 3: I forgot that.

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Speaker 2: You know, Judon has kind of established himself is a

435
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Speaker 2: not a top notch.

436
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Speaker 3: No, he's a good football player.

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Speaker 2: He's a good football player. I don't know he's a great.

438
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Speaker 3: Football play Again, he's physical, he's tough, kind of a

439
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Speaker 3: self made guy. Never was considered a first round talent

440
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Speaker 3: slash burst, you know, speed dude. But for them they

441
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Speaker 3: should be pretty happy to get him. I thing, but

442
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Speaker 3: you start mortgaging picks and you know you used a

443
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Speaker 3: premium pick on a quarterback that's not going to play

444
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Speaker 3: for you, and then he used next to your third

445
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Speaker 3: on a guy that just to kind of stop. Yeah,

446
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Speaker 3: it might be so interesting stuff.

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Speaker 2: They're also meeting with Justin Simmons yesterday and into today.

448
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Speaker 2: There's some expectation that he may sign there.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and Aaron with Bates another old guy, right right,

450
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Speaker 3: I mean it's a in it to win at philosophy

451
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Speaker 3: this year for them. Simmons last we saw I was

452
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Speaker 3: a really good player. I don't exactly know why he's

453
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Speaker 3: not signed yet. I mean, Bates was the really nice

454
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Speaker 3: pick up. You know, we're familiar with him in Cincinnati,

455
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Speaker 3: one of the top single high safety guys in the league.

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Speaker 3: But now they're going to a Rams defense too, which

457
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Speaker 3: is a little different. You know, the Rams are always

458
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Speaker 3: centered around Aaron Donald and there's nothing close to that

459
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Speaker 3: in Atlanta in any way, shape or form.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if they're going to go straight

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Speaker 2: quote unquote Rams defense because Raheem Morris, who's now the

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Speaker 2: head coach.

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Speaker 3: A lot of different stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's he's been around the league. I think you know,

465
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Speaker 2: he knows enough about this to do what. You know,

466
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Speaker 2: he's gonna paint to Martin red if he's got red paint.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really has shown that. No matter what I mean,

468
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Speaker 3: you don't look at him and say he's a Shanahan

469
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Speaker 3: offense guy over there, you know what I mean, Like,

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Speaker 3: you don't pigeonhole him. He's been around the block over

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Speaker 3: and over. I'm almost certain he spent a year or

472
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Speaker 3: two of his career even coaching and offensive position. I

473
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Speaker 3: think he did. Don't quote me on that, but he's

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Speaker 3: I know him and coach Tom Whin are close and

475
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Speaker 3: I have a lot of respect for Morris.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that'll be an interesting little side note to

477
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Speaker 2: the to the opener, and we'll see if you know

478
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Speaker 2: they're still signing guys there's still and again older guys.

479
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Speaker 3: Yeah, older guys in it to win it, dudes, but

480
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Speaker 3: not really building for the future outside of the quarterback

481
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Speaker 3: who probably won't play snappers here hopefully for them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So gonna be interesting here. The Steelers still going

483
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Speaker 2: through their their position warm ups here, as are the

484
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Speaker 2: Bills over on the to our left here, as they

485
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Speaker 2: get ready for their joint practice here at Akroscher Stadium.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lallie. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network and Fox Sports Pittsburgh. Matt.

488
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Speaker 3: Those crowded out there, doesn't it? It does.

489
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Speaker 2: There's ninety football players on the field.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, on both sides. There's one hundred and eighty right, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean there's ninety from the fifty to the goal line,

492
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Speaker 3: ninety from the other fifty gal on the other way

493
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Speaker 3: with their backs to each other. Kind of No, it'll

494
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Speaker 3: be interesting though.

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Speaker 2: These are like college football rosters right now.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I know that the rules are set

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Speaker 3: for everyone to get released at the same time, but

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Speaker 3: I would bat deep down there's some of these coaches

499
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Speaker 3: that wouldn't mind two or three guys exiting their room,

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Speaker 3: you know that they know aren't going to play, or

501
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Speaker 3: you're just kind of getting in the way. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, I get it.

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Speaker 3: You don't need them on game day too, for the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter.

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Speaker 2: Ye're right right for those, and it allows you also

506
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Speaker 2: to churn, as I mentioned with the nickel corner spots,

507
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Speaker 2: to churn a little bit more because you have those

508
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Speaker 2: extra roster spaces.

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Speaker 3: It's it seems like almost every day the Steelers make

510
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Speaker 3: some sort of movie, right, which is the same for

511
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Speaker 3: all teams, And unfortunately those ninety guys, that gives a

512
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Speaker 3: better chance that somebody gets hurt and you know you

513
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Speaker 3: got to put him on a Fojko or someone like

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Speaker 3: that Arnold that you didn't want to you know, move

515
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Speaker 3: on from. But when in doubt you find someone out there,

516
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Speaker 3: you're looking. I mean, these scouts are constantly looking at,

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Speaker 3: you know, what's available.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think one of the things that you do

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Speaker 2: here and one of the things that you see, Matt

520
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Speaker 2: is if a guy has promise, they put him on

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Speaker 2: IR right, as opposed to just waving him injured. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 2: So Fojoko, for example, went on IR We just saw that,

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Speaker 2: you know, the cornerback go on rr.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But you see other guys that get hurt and

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Speaker 2: they get waved injured and that just means they came

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Speaker 2: to an injury settlement because he's not part of the

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Speaker 2: long term plans.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it makes you think that you're pretty excited

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Speaker 3: to get those two dudes, Arnold and Fojko, at least

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Speaker 3: back to Saint Vincent next year. Yeah, you're gonna yeah, yeah,

532
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Speaker 3: you're pay them to do. You saw enough that you.

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Speaker 2: Know it's gonna Okay, we can bring these guys back

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Speaker 2: when retained their rights here. We don't want somebody else

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Speaker 2: signing them once they're you know, once they're healthy again,

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Speaker 2: and you know in this situation. Uh. But again, if

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Speaker 2: you go on i R at this time of year

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Speaker 2: before the season starts, you're done for the year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, so that's that's rough for the player

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Speaker 3: obviously to get dealt a blow this time of year.

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Speaker 3: But you also get paid for the I mean if

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Speaker 3: you earned it, Like we just said, you earn a

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Speaker 3: paycheck for the whole year, and it shows the team

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Speaker 3: liked what you've done so far.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get you know, the opportunity at least

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Speaker 2: to be around Yeah yeah, sit in meetings and do

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Speaker 2: things like that. You know, absolutely, For example, a Cory

548
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Speaker 2: Trice last year who was injured during training camp can

549
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Speaker 2: be around the team all year long. Sure, and so

550
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Speaker 2: you you know, you you're able to see what everybody's

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Speaker 2: what the world is like, and.

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Speaker 3: Travel and how the locker room. Well you don't travel,

553
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Speaker 3: I know, but you at least see how they do it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you you don't do those things because sit

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Speaker 3: in the cornerback and eading room. You go to work

556
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Speaker 3: every day. Yeah, you know you live in the city.

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Speaker 3: I mean the things that aren't football related. And in

558
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Speaker 3: a lot of ways, you know, this is Trice's rookie

559
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Speaker 3: year on the field, but he has all those things settled,

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Speaker 3: you know. I mean, he knows the best route to

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Speaker 3: the stadium and I'm all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 2: That you even think about, you know, absolutely. So you know,

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Speaker 2: we'll see how that continues to play out here and

564
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Speaker 2: hopefully the Steelers don't get any more injury or bad

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Speaker 2: news on injury situation right.

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Speaker 3: Like that Milano news would be cool. I mean it

567
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Speaker 3: has to kind of hover over the Bills right now.

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Speaker 3: I mean that that's a rushing, cruising cruise.

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Speaker 2: And last year, you know, they had moved on from

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Speaker 2: Tremaine Edmunds.

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Speaker 3: Yep, basically picked Milano over him. Yeah, and they gave

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Speaker 3: him money.

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Speaker 2: And right this year they also lost Terrell burn I'm

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Speaker 2: not Torell Bernard, who was the yeah, the other the linebacker,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 3: He played well for them last year too. It's a

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Speaker 3: smaller guy running hit type dude. And again, and I

578
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Speaker 3: mean we've talked about this to no end because very

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Speaker 3: steel irrelevant this year. The Bills of the team. I

580
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Speaker 3: always use the example of that, the defense that is

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Speaker 3: in Nickel most year after year after year.

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Speaker 2: They're like over ninety percent.

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Speaker 3: It's like all the time, less goal line basically, and

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Speaker 3: that's mostly because Milano and Edmunds were such good players.

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Speaker 3: Dots Okay, I always get Bernard and Dotson mixed up.

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Speaker 3: That's why they don't throw the names out. And then

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Speaker 3: those two both played pretty well for them. You have

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Speaker 3: to have two quality linebackers to live in Nickel that

589
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Speaker 3: can do it every down and aren't just specialists or

590
00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 3: aren't just you know, super light or super heavy. And

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Speaker 3: the Bills have been very fortunate with that, and now

592
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Speaker 3: they're really testing that year after year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Now I assume they're their starters.

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Speaker 3: W end up being to Bernard, who we talked about

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Speaker 3: and each kind of stepped up last year.

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Speaker 2: And Dorian Williams, who was a rookie third round draft

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Speaker 2: pick last year.

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Speaker 3: He's a two lane guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, So two former third round draft picks,

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Speaker 2: that's their future at the positions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But there for it the future is now. They

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Speaker 3: were kind on Malano being back in Green Dot and

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Speaker 3: leader of the defense because he also don't have those

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Speaker 3: field Yeah. I mean, they've had a pair of safeties

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Speaker 3: for a decade that are probably going to be in

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Speaker 3: you know, their version of a Ring of Honor type thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, they're great Bills that aren't Hall of Fame

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Speaker 3: type guys, but they don't have either one of those

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Speaker 3: guys back. So up the middle is sort of a

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Speaker 3: mess for the for the Bills right now. I don't

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Speaker 3: love their corners either. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Both teams heading to the sidelines here now, so let's.

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Speaker 3: Take a break before Yeah, it's gonna happen here. Uh.

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Speaker 2: He is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lollie. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: a special edition of The Drive here live from Acrosser

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Speaker 2: Stadium where the Steelers are practicing against the Bills in

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Speaker 2: a joint practice. This is the Steelers Audio Network in

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Pittsburgh. We'll be back with more right after this. This.

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Speaker 2: And we are back on Dale Lolly here with the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson and we are here live at the Steelers

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Speaker 2: uh joint practice with the Buffalo Bills here at Acrosser Stadium.

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Speaker 2: And Uh, well, Matt, we're seeing both teams doing seven

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Speaker 2: shots right now with their offense working their their offense

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Speaker 2: working against the opposing team's defense.

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Speaker 3: Here.

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Speaker 2: Uh Josh Allen getting touchdowns on two of four snaps

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Speaker 2: against the Steelers defense.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Minster Bisky in there now he just got stopped on

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Speaker 2: a run scramble. So the Steelers winning this one now

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Speaker 2: on this on that end uh three to two. Uh.

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Speaker 3: And over here this was Fields's second snap. He just

636
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Speaker 3: did a play action rollout for a touchdown to quarter

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Speaker 3: Oll Patterson. Really nicely well designed play to play before

638
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Speaker 3: it he put it in the running backs belly kept

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Speaker 3: it trotted into the end zone easily. And then Wilson

640
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 3: was the quarterback for the first three maybe four because

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Speaker 3: the first snap of the game he stepped on an

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Speaker 3: O lineman and went down and the ball came out.

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Speaker 3: I assume they're not going to count that one. Just

644
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Speaker 3: had a false start there on sixty six, Yeah, sixty

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Speaker 3: six there too a little, but there was what I

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Speaker 3: would have called a sack, but late in the down

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Speaker 3: he found pickings for a touchdown, and then after that

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Speaker 3: there was an easy touchdown to Hayward off play action.

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Speaker 3: So a lot of good stuff off play action for

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Speaker 3: both these quarterbacks on the two yard line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the Steelers stopping Trubisky the last time, and then

652
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: the Bills fumbled the snap on the next one here,

653
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 2: and so the fourth and final one, we'll be run

654
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 2: down here on this end.

655
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 3: But and then Fields just threw a touchdown pass to Austin.

656
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 3: It was pretty late in the down and we're not

657
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,600
Speaker 3: tackling quarterbacks to the ground or anything, but I do

658
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: think he bought time enough that that would not have

659
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 3: been a sack with his legs and all that a little.

660
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 2: Pass break right by twenty seven that is twenty.

661
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: Seven, Okay, good for him. Yeah, that was a nice play.

662
00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the Steelers will win on both ends, I guess,

663
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:15,840
Speaker 2: I think so.

664
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,880
Speaker 3: I think it's four to three, depending what they called

665
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:23,400
Speaker 3: that late what I was called a sack touchdown three

666
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,480
Speaker 3: five two or four to three, So okay, yeah, yeah,

667
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 3: our first but they were good.

668
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 2: First competition period in the books. Now we're breaking off here,

669
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 2: looks like the Steelers first team offense on the field

670
00:31:34,440 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 2: here to the right, and the Bills first team offense

671
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 2: on the field to the left, and so I assume

672
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,880
Speaker 2: that both teams will send their first team defenses out

673
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: there as well.

674
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: To look that way. So, I mean, this is going

675
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 3: to be hard to comment on because people have warned

676
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: us that there's a lot going on, But I think

677
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 3: we're gonna have one versus ones and one versus ones

678
00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 3: at the same time. So yeah, whatever we observe will

679
00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 3: tell you.

680
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, And it gives us an opportunity to talk

681
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 2: about some differferent stuff here as well as both of

682
00:32:02,520 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 2: these teams get through this joint practice. You know, I

683
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 2: think people are still surprised that Russell Wilson is the

684
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 2: Steelers starting quarterback here national people both ends. Yeah, Nationally,

685
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: I still keep reading stuff that Justin Field is pushing

686
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 2: pushing Russell Wilson.

687
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,520
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I don't see that at all, to be

688
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 3: honest with.

689
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 2: You, thought Wilson had maybe his best practice of I

690
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 2: know he hasn't practiced a.

691
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 3: Time, but you're just awesome yesterday. Yeah, really really crisp,

692
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 3: putting the ball right where you want it. He's he's

693
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 3: doing the drills here, as Josh Allen is on the

694
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: other end, just doing true one on ones, which favor

695
00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: the offense a great deal. I mean, they have the

696
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 3: whole field to work with, but still, you know, I

697
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 3: mean it's still a competitive one on one situation against

698
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 3: a different opponent.

699
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 2: You got some one on one offensive line versus defensive

700
00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,600
Speaker 2: line drills going on in the middle of the field

701
00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 2: as well, So all kinds of stuff going on.

702
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, too much because both are doing them. I mean,

703
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 3: we've got four really competitive drills happening at the same

704
00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 3: time right now.

705
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, little football overload here, you know, I would guess

706
00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 2: the you know, the coaching staffs are obviously watching. I

707
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 2: see an official take a fall there on the far

708
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: kind of run over there. But it's just a lot

709
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 2: happening here, and keeping track of of things like this

710
00:33:33,680 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: for the head coaches has got to be.

711
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 3: Difficult one hundred percent. And position coaches are really going

712
00:33:38,360 --> 00:33:42,640
Speaker 3: to be stressed here, as are the cameramen. You know,

713
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: Like I wouldn't want to be in charge of filming

714
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,440
Speaker 3: all this and making sure you get every little bit

715
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 3: because they're going to want to study this more so

716
00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 3: than the average practice too. I mean this is high

717
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 3: quality stuff. Again. It's kind of like when the Steelers

718
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:58,880
Speaker 3: do backs on backers, and they often do three at once.

719
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 3: They have a I'm in segment, backs on backers and

720
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: one on one pass catching. But now there's just everything

721
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 3: but the backs on backers. But there's four things out

722
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:08,719
Speaker 3: there to watch, not three. Yeah.

723
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:10,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just a lot going on here.

724
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 3: See, I'm always battling.

725
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, And that was a nice little in route there,

726
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:24,800
Speaker 2: like twenty that twenty one. That is twenty one Jacob

727
00:34:25,000 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: Copeland or no, I'm sorry, Jerray Jenkins. He's not terrible.

728
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:32,919
Speaker 3: I need to do more work on him.

729
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, showing some good hands, shows a good speed here.

730
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 2: I'm not saying he's going to make the roster or

731
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:43,280
Speaker 2: anything like that, but he's not just a throwaway player.

732
00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 3: No. I mean guys like that too. They end up

733
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 3: on the practice squad hopefully for them and maybe a

734
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,879
Speaker 3: year from now it's like, oh, you know, he really

735
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 3: came a long way too. There was something there to

736
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 3: work with.

737
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, so we'll see here. But on the defensive

738
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:59,359
Speaker 2: side over there, they're getting the opportunity to work here

739
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:02,160
Speaker 2: against uh, you know, Josh Allen and Trubisky and this

740
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,720
Speaker 2: in a drill like this, this is gold.

741
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

742
00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:07,800
Speaker 2: Now, obviously Trubisky is a guy that they've seen a

743
00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 2: lot of but getting the uppity. Unfortunately for the Steelers,

744
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: they've probably seen too much of Josh Allen as well

745
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 2: and receiving.

746
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of people in the league probably think that.

747
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 2: But you know, just dealing, you know, getting the opportunity

748
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: to deal with that big arm of Josh Allen, it's

749
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:23,439
Speaker 2: a good thing.

750
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the elite quarterbacks in the

751
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:28,800
Speaker 3: league and I don't throw that turn around loosely. Mahome

752
00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,399
Speaker 3: is the only guy would take over him. So he's

753
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,160
Speaker 3: gonna be a challenge even in a situation like this.

754
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:37,239
Speaker 3: I'm sure he'll do some team stuff too. These line

755
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,799
Speaker 3: one on one battles are really good too. I mean

756
00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 3: it kind of reminds you of Seniable in terms of

757
00:35:41,680 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 3: intensity and you know, a lot to prove here. Yeah,

758
00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 3: and Watt's not participating, you said he is not.

759
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 2: The Bill's third string quarterback is Ben Denucci, the Pine

760
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,919
Speaker 2: Richland product, And uh right, so he's returning home here

761
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:01,280
Speaker 2: for this one. Not quite just when he throws the football.

762
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 3: No, Josh Allen can sling it pretty well. So what

763
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 3: are we looking at here? And all the linemen stuff's

764
00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: one on one, but they're battling. And these other drills

765
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 3: are pretty telling too. I mean, again, they really favor

766
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 3: the receivers, but the steel receivers are really fair and

767
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:20,919
Speaker 3: well against his Buffalo secondary. Yeah.

768
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, it looks like the defensive backs held up pretty

769
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 2: well done there as well.

770
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 3: I didn't see them getting toasted to what best I've

771
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:29,919
Speaker 3: been able to watch everything at once.

772
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand it's you know, practice and yeah, yea,

773
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: you know again, you're not seeing Alan out there like

774
00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 2: it's her Bisky's back there and out throwing. That was

775
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 2: an easy release to the inside there. But that's gonna happen. Oh,

776
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 2: you would have help to the middle of the field.

777
00:36:43,080 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, there would be linebackers and you know, stuff in

778
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 3: the way.

779
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 2: At least here's there's a straight deep release there and

780
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 2: that's a touchdown that one.

781
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 3: They might not have had help they've been nott.

782
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a nicely thrown flip. And what is

783
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 2: that down here?

784
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: That is okay?

785
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,400
Speaker 2: For the steel That was number eighty nine.

786
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,839
Speaker 3: Many dyne I'm not familiar with.

787
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 2: That's one of the new guys. You can run Jacob Cope,

788
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: that is Jacob Cope. Okay, okay, but yeah, nice little

789
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: release to beat the cornerback down the sideline in a

790
00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 2: well thrown ball.

791
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Wilson's doing quite a bit. He's out there now,

792
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 3: thet Trabisky on the other side. Yeah, and they are

793
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,760
Speaker 3: throwing flags and on top of this stuff, these lineman

794
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,280
Speaker 3: drills are pretty intense. Guys are getting after The Steeler

795
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: Oa line is playing hard right now.

796
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,279
Speaker 2: That's one of the things that Andy Widel said Today's like, hey,

797
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 2: you want to be you know, big strong and physical.

798
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: You draft big strong, physical guys.

799
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,359
Speaker 3: Right with a little attitude to him and especially if

800
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,319
Speaker 3: you start creating that in the building too, and you

801
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,600
Speaker 3: get more attitude out of them, which I think this

802
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 3: line is starting to get back to some of that

803
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 3: pouncy to castro nastiness, you know, feel to them. They're

804
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 3: not as accomplished a players yet and hopefully that comes,

805
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,120
Speaker 3: but I do think they have stressed big, physical, nasty,

806
00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 3: et cetera. Yeah, and you know you can watch Broderck

807
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 3: Jones had that wasn't Jones. Sorry again, there's a lot

808
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: to watch right now, folks, yeah, do my best.

809
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is this is uh again, this is

810
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, football overload.

811
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 3: Football overload. So I assume when we do team it

812
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:24,280
Speaker 3: will also be two things at once.

813
00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 2: One thing at least. Going back to that, you don't

814
00:38:25,800 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 2: want your Yeah, you don't want a bunch of guys

815
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 2: standing around. That kind of defeats the purpose.

816
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 3: Right, right, But they're going deep into the well too.

817
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 3: They're not just the top guys. Now, everybody's everybody's participating

818
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,920
Speaker 3: and it's pretty fast paced. There's rep after rep after

819
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 3: rep going on. Well, that's that's the beauty of this.

820
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,680
Speaker 2: That's why you can get somebody to get both quarterback

821
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,640
Speaker 2: you know, quarterbacks on both sides going here.

822
00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 3: I mean you really get more than like double the

823
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 3: work done of a normal practice here. Yeah, really is

824
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 3: a d Absolutely. There's Alan Broderck Jones Battlin right there

825
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 3: with forty. Who was that? That was von Millener? I

826
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 3: thought it was, yeah Rodert Jones at a number of them, and.

827
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: That one's that's invaluable.

828
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, right, you could go to von Miller. Yeah, I

829
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: didn't think he'd dressed with this, but he's out there, you.

830
00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 2: Know, I think he's got a little something to prove

831
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: this year.

832
00:39:08,239 --> 00:39:11,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's coming back from stuff too. I mean another

833
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 3: one that we were talking a lot about the Atlanta guys,

834
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: but he certainly has He's one of these older expensive

835
00:39:19,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: They need to get more out of him, and he

836
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 3: needs to finish his career with a little bit of

837
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: flurry here.

838
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:29,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a shame, you know, Troy Fetanu great,

839
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:29,840
Speaker 2: It was.

840
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,080
Speaker 3: The same thing when I'm watching these linemen, like, how

841
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 3: how great would that be?

842
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: Yeahs von Miller, you'd like to see him out there

843
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 2: and get some opportunities to do this, because you know,

844
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: he's just invaluable. And the same thing with Roman Wilson.

845
00:39:43,239 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 2: You know two young guys, two rookies that the Steelers

846
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 2: are counting on this year that you'd like to see

847
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: out there in these situations, and they're just not available.

848
00:39:50,239 --> 00:39:52,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Those those are definitely two young ones that would

849
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: be really benefit from something like this. I'm not saying

850
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: that there's going to be fights or anything, but you

851
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: can just see these one on one linemen battles. They

852
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 3: go to the echo of the whistle more so than.

853
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:05,000
Speaker 2: The guys are finishing.

854
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:07,439
Speaker 3: Oh, they finish, and I'm sure they're blowing it dead

855
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: and there's still they won't be the last one to

856
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,280
Speaker 3: give up type of deal. So these linemen are pushing

857
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 3: it a little stronger than one on one's or his teammates. Yeah.

858
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:17,839
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's that's that's what you should expected, all right.

859
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 2: This is the NFL to be expected, isn't this route?

860
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 3: Yeah?

861
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 2: Is that Quas Watkins?

862
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, it was a sharp little incut.

863
00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: That's something he better do.

864
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 3: No.

865
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:28,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can't return.

866
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: Pun return fund things. It's not gone his way.

867
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,920
Speaker 2: Not so much. But yeah he can do that catching football.

868
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:36,760
Speaker 2: Look at the cushon on that one. Wow.

869
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he still blew by him.

870
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 2: Is that twenty one?

871
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 3: Again?

872
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:44,840
Speaker 2: It is about that Drei Jenkins. Okay, it might be

873
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 2: a little faster than I gave him credit for.

874
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that was a he ate that cushion

875
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 3: up quick.

876
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean the cornerback was fifteen yards off of

877
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 2: him there, and he still blew by.

878
00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 3: Him going down here. It's pretty good coverage.

879
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, no catch, no catch. Yeah, when you when you see.

880
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 3: Things that this name, I mean you were talking about

881
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 3: that about Connor Hayward too. He kind of ran away

882
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,799
Speaker 3: from a faster, smaller guy than him.

883
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,040
Speaker 2: I really think Hayward's going to be a weapon this year.

884
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 3: They use him a lot of different ways. And I

885
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,719
Speaker 3: got asked on a different podcast, you know it's is

886
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,680
Speaker 3: Connor Hayward a luxury that they can't afford to keep.

887
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:28,879
Speaker 3: I'm like, I think he's the opposite. I think he's

888
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: crucial because he's one of your best special teamers and

889
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 3: he can do so many things for you that I

890
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,000
Speaker 3: think there'd be in a lot of trouble without him,

891
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:37,840
Speaker 3: you know, because he can get you out of a

892
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 3: game and do so many things. You know, full back,

893
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:44,040
Speaker 3: he could be a emergency right right right, and with

894
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,839
Speaker 3: the special teams and stuff involved on top of that,

895
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 3: he's not a luxury at all.

896
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so either, And I think they

897
00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:54,440
Speaker 2: have a definite plan on ways to use him, and

898
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 2: he might be your fullback.

899
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: Could be, could be. I mean I don't know Coleto's

900
00:41:58,160 --> 00:42:00,399
Speaker 3: guaranteed a spot or anything like that. And if that's

901
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 3: going to fall on Heyward and some prove it, yeah,

902
00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:04,719
Speaker 3: you know, which could work.

903
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean they've both done it into it to

904
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:11,800
Speaker 2: varying degrees, So you know you're looking for your fullback

905
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: to be a banger. Were you just looking at him

906
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,040
Speaker 2: to put your nose in there?

907
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: Getting away? Yeah, and maybe bring more as a receiver too. Yeah.

908
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,359
Speaker 3: So the linemen looked like they're getting a little water

909
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 3: chilling a little bit. They're going, yeah, a little bit,

910
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 3: yeah before they somebody gets into something here. Yeah, and

911
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,520
Speaker 3: the league is watching that. Now.

912
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: You know the teams that were getting into these big

913
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,479
Speaker 2: fights earlier in training camp.

914
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, that get frowned upon. Man. Yeah, yeah, I forget

915
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,680
Speaker 3: who it was. One of the head coaches. It's one

916
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 3: of the younger head coaches said, and they were getting

917
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,520
Speaker 3: ready for their joint practice. I wish I knew who

918
00:42:46,520 --> 00:42:50,360
Speaker 3: it was. And he told, if you start one of

919
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 3: the fights in this joint practice, and you're a starter,

920
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: you're playing every step of the preseason game. If you're

921
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,880
Speaker 3: a backup, you're not playing any that's a good kind

922
00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 3: of punishment.

923
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 2: Well, and the Dermott said today when he spoke with

924
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 2: the media earlier that if that happens here, anybody gets

925
00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 2: into a fight, you're done. Your practice is over here.

926
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 3: Okay, So yeah, I mean it, you don't need it.

927
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,160
Speaker 3: I mean it's just no, it's like a game. I mean,

928
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,680
Speaker 3: you're allowed to fight there either, you know.

929
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,759
Speaker 2: It's just senseless stuff and somebody might get hurt.

930
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:25,320
Speaker 3: Somebody might get hurt right now on the face masks,

931
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,240
Speaker 3: or somebody falls over backwards and gets piled on and

932
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 3: tears an a cl You don't need that. So now

933
00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 3: on the left side with Allen is a quarterback, they're

934
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,879
Speaker 3: doing two man route combinations, so it's getting a little

935
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 3: more crowded. Helps the defense a little bit. Nice pass

936
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,840
Speaker 3: guys off and yeah, exactly two man route combinations the

937
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: same side of the field where the Steeler side, the

938
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: Steeler offensive side is still one on ones. Yeah, I

939
00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 3: still a route there by thirty one other side field too, Yeah,

940
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: they're they're incorporating some backs on backers in receiving game

941
00:43:57,920 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 3: as well.

942
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,759
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, lots of lots of comp tition going on.

943
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:02,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, big men look like they're taking a small break.

944
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:05,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what you want to see.

945
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:06,520
Speaker 3: Eighty two they're coming off a line.

946
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,760
Speaker 2: Well yeah, yeah, I mean this is this is great

947
00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: for these This is like almost it's not quite a

948
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 2: fourth preseason game.

949
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: In some ways. It's better though. I mean, like look

950
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: at all the reps are getting for these cover guys

951
00:44:20,080 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 3: and these receivers and you know, against quality competition one

952
00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 3: after another after another. You don't go to commercial break

953
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,200
Speaker 3: or you know, pull you off the sideline just as

954
00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 3: your turn and get step up there and play. Yeah,

955
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:32,759
Speaker 3: And it looks like the Bills are kind of working

956
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 3: on some bunch stuff too. You know, they're doing stacking

957
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 3: their receivers a little bit here too, which is I

958
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,879
Speaker 3: assume McDermott went to Tom and saying, hey, we would

959
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 3: really like to work on some of the stack release stuff.

960
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:43,920
Speaker 3: Do you have a problem with that?

961
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 2: No, you know, Yeah, So that's one of the beauties

962
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,919
Speaker 2: of these things. You can set up what you want

963
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 2: to see out there as the head coaches, the position

964
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,239
Speaker 2: coaches like I want I want this, man, I want this.

965
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 2: You know, we've got to work on this. Yeah, and

966
00:44:58,320 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 2: when it you know, you might only get to do

967
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,160
Speaker 2: it three times in a game.

968
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think about that a lot from the Arthur

969
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 3: Smith new wrinkle, new person personnelity or personnel usage. If

970
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 3: I was, you know, coach Austin or the defensive staff,

971
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: I might ask the Bills can you do mostly three

972
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 3: wide because we don't get as much as that as

973
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 3: we see.

974
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:19,760
Speaker 2: In the real world.

975
00:45:19,800 --> 00:45:22,880
Speaker 3: You know, and that's something Tomlin has to balance amongst

976
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: the team. But maybe they're like, that's all we want

977
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,799
Speaker 3: to practice is three wide because it all they do,

978
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 3: id you know, right, like the perfect that's great. So, no,

979
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,359
Speaker 3: there's a lot to get gather here, and again there's

980
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:35,400
Speaker 3: not been a lot of wasted time or standing around.

981
00:45:35,600 --> 00:45:39,760
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not. He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lelly.

982
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 2: You're listening to a special edition of The Drive here

983
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:47,960
Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio. We are live from Acresser Stadium. Yeah,

984
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: where the Steelers are practicing against the Buffalo Bills here.

985
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: They'll of course play the Buffalo Bills Saturday night at

986
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 2: seven o'clock right here at this very site. So a

987
00:45:57,360 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: good opportunity to get a couple of working sessions in

988
00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 2: against what should be a pretty good football team this year.

989
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, and they have a lot of moving parts too.

990
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 3: I don't think they're gonna just rest on their hands

991
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 3: in the game either. They get a lot of things

992
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: to work on.

993
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. We'll get an opportunity to hear from Mike Tomlin

994
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 2: a little bit later today after this practice to see

995
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,799
Speaker 2: exactly what the plans are for that preseason game. As

996
00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 2: I'm watching here, Matthew write down here working on those

997
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:26,799
Speaker 2: some of those weird kickoffs.

998
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:29,480
Speaker 3: There are some weird kickoffs stuff. So do we do

999
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 3: you think we're going to a special teams period? Should

1000
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:32,879
Speaker 3: be that.

1001
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:36,440
Speaker 2: Close and he's working on that. Ball actually curves when

1002
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:40,240
Speaker 2: he kicks it like that. Okay, so let's just something

1003
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,839
Speaker 2: a little different there. Let's get to a break. We'll

1004
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 2: be back with more here on Fox Sports Pittsburgh and

1005
00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network. He's Matt Williamson, I'm Dale Lallie.

1006
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Speaker 2: Right after this