Speaker 1: I'm Honey German. My parents are Dominican. I was born
Speaker 1: and raised in New York City. I love sneakers and
Speaker 1: I'm a body positive padicate.
Speaker 2: I'm Carolina Bermudez, Soy Nika a wendsay, but I was
Speaker 2: born and raised in Ohio. I'm a wife, a mama,
Speaker 2: and a worker bee. This is life in Spanglish over
Speaker 2: the pandemic. She has racked up so many views, over
Speaker 2: one hundred million views. She has over three hundred thousand
Speaker 2: follows on Instagram and Facebook. She is one of my
Speaker 2: personal favorites. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome Lil suss On Package.
Speaker 2: I don't know I should I call you Rita because
Speaker 2: that is your real name? Right? Which iver was found
Speaker 2: with me?
Speaker 3: Little sass On packet is fine and Rita's fine.
Speaker 2: Whichever is fine. The first question I have is how
Speaker 2: did you come up with Little sass On packet? Because
Speaker 2: anybody who listens to Life in Spanglish knows the little
Speaker 2: sass On packets that mom and dad had to use
Speaker 2: right where you meet Mom and dad how us. So
Speaker 2: it's funny enough.
Speaker 4: I actually got that nickname from going to battle rap events.
Speaker 4: I was the only Latina. That was like really in
Speaker 4: the front. So at one point I had the artists.
Speaker 4: When I got to know them, they were like, you
Speaker 4: need to make sure you come because you're like a
Speaker 4: little Spanish seasoning.
Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, I'm like a little sas on packet. Huh.
Speaker 3: And they're like, that's it, that's name, that's it. And
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, I guess that's what we're calling
Speaker 3: me now. So my drop, my drop little packets here.
Speaker 2: And then Eminem is going to battle. Right, little name
Speaker 2: in there said.
Speaker 4: Your your full name, give it to us. Your full
Speaker 4: name is Rita.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, I couldn't Spanish all the way. My
Speaker 2: father was like, let that ring. Yeah, that just rolled.
Speaker 2: That rolled off the So. So but your friends call
Speaker 2: you Rita. Yes, so now we're friends and you're Puerto Rican. Yes,
Speaker 2: I am from the Bronx. Hello, So you're the only one, right, No, I'm.
Speaker 1: So.
Speaker 2: Is that where you were born and raised?
Speaker 4: Born and raised in the Bronx. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 4: big family. I'm one of so yeah.
Speaker 2: Why by the way, I'm one of six, so I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 4: You know, big families and stuff. So yeah, yeah, I'm
Speaker 4: like the middle from my mom. Again, there's eight of us,
Speaker 4: three from my mom. Papa was a rolling stone. But
Speaker 4: I love my big family and that's what I guess. Well,
Speaker 4: the personality comes from Okay.
Speaker 2: So now I have to put honey on. The first
Speaker 2: time I ever saw you on Instagram, I swear I
Speaker 2: had to rewatch this video several times.
Speaker 1: Remember which video was?
Speaker 2: Absolutely? Because it's a series? Now is it a series
Speaker 2: for you? Because of how to look good? Pachi? This
Speaker 2: is actually a fat cheep right now.
Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, it's a series for me that I started.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the algorithm did to bless me.
Speaker 2: But this day I was, you know, on your Discover page,
Speaker 2: like you don't know, like what you're gonna find.
Speaker 1: I've always for you today, Caen.
Speaker 2: Totally, So I was on there. I'm always looking for
Speaker 2: recipes or like you know, organization things or whatever. And
Speaker 2: then somehow on the reals section, she pops up and
Speaker 2: she's like me, MEI and I died because it's so true.
Speaker 2: That's something like you know that we as latin As
Speaker 2: we have that you know where it's like my my grandmother,
Speaker 2: my Abelita, used to say noees el bastillo es la Perca.
Speaker 2: That's facts, and I felt like that in the media
Speaker 2: connection to you. So then I was like, this girl
Speaker 2: is funny. So then I went to your page and
Speaker 2: I started watching all of your other reels and I
Speaker 2: just was like, Oh, that's crazy.
Speaker 3: It's amazing to hear that from you. Honestly, yes, but
Speaker 3: I did.
Speaker 2: You know, Normally, you watch a video, you crack up,
Speaker 2: and then you move on, you know. But then I
Speaker 2: was like, I need to know more about this girl,
Speaker 2: because there is something so dynamic and beautiful about you,
Speaker 2: and we're going to get into like, you know, your
Speaker 2: messaging and what you know, your messages to your fans
Speaker 2: and everything. But I just loved it because I thought
Speaker 2: to myself, I'm like, how many times do we as
Speaker 2: women want to look amazing but we just don't have it?
Speaker 2: You know, It's just not there.
Speaker 4: It's crazy because when I when I first the video, Honestly,
Speaker 4: whenever I do video, I don't think that they're gonna hit.
Speaker 3: It's not like I sit there and I think, oh,
Speaker 3: this was going viral.
Speaker 4: It was just one of those days that I put
Speaker 4: on a little twenty dollar dress that I got and
Speaker 4: I was like, oh, Mama, looked good. And then I
Speaker 4: was just like, I'm gonna record this because I was like, again,
Speaker 4: like you said, there are so many of us as women,
Speaker 4: we just want to look good. We want to go
Speaker 4: out and feel good about ourselves. And sometimes people get
Speaker 4: caught up in the names Gucci to be Chuocci and
Speaker 4: you gotta wear.
Speaker 3: A product, and I'm like, listen, I got at it.
Speaker 2: I'm not mad at it.
Speaker 3: If you got it, you got it, but I ain't
Speaker 3: got it.
Speaker 4: So I was like, you know what, whatever I do got,
Speaker 4: If I got Rainbow money, that's what's gonna happen today,
Speaker 4: and we're gonna make sure we treat.
Speaker 3: It like I'm out here, yes at the Oscars.
Speaker 2: And then sometimes you got that Zara money sometimes that's it.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you got the Fashion Nova money. Like it's whatever
Speaker 2: your budget is. You can look good for whatever your
Speaker 2: price ranges. And so when I when I made the video,
Speaker 2: I really didn't think nothing of it. And then people
Speaker 2: started messaging me and like.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, yes I like my little five dollar
Speaker 4: dress too, but I got like three dollar braces, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yes, this is a whole world. People like this,
Speaker 2: so but we need more moments like that. I feel
Speaker 2: like as women just in general, to just connect with
Speaker 2: each other and also to keep it real, because like
Speaker 2: that is the one thing about Instagram that I've been
Speaker 2: seeing more and more. Like that's why we say like
Speaker 2: real versus fake, you know. And there was just something
Speaker 2: that was so real and genuine about you that I
Speaker 2: just appreciated. And it's not all clothing and things like
Speaker 2: you get great messaging about dating and family and work
Speaker 2: and just you know, motivation, which I thought was really interesting.
Speaker 2: So take us all the way back. What were you
Speaker 2: doing prior to you know, doing TikTok and Instagram?
Speaker 4: So I waitressed for many years, and then of course
Speaker 4: when the pandemic hit, I had just got into working
Speaker 4: for the post office.
Speaker 2: So it was one of those things that again I
Speaker 2: come from a Sasa family.
Speaker 4: My family's like performers, so I've always had that inmates
Speaker 4: to be like, you know, some kind of stage presence.
Speaker 4: But I didn't want to dance, so I would make
Speaker 4: videos and I knew that I wanted to pursue that route,
Speaker 4: like acting or some kind of entertainment. Yeah, but again
Speaker 4: I was working at the post office post office sixteen
Speaker 4: hours shifts, six days a week, mama was tired.
Speaker 2: But you're in this job where it's like grueling. It's
Speaker 2: like you have to put in your hours.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was delivering packages and things like that.
Speaker 2: And what I noticed online is that I had.
Speaker 4: Friends during that time kind of like entering answered during
Speaker 4: the pandemic, and they were doing.
Speaker 3: Really well for themselves.
Speaker 4: But I always felt like I saw influencers kind of
Speaker 4: want to make you be them, but never want you
Speaker 4: to be kind of you. It's like have this kind
Speaker 4: of lifestyle like me, or like this is what I do,
Speaker 4: and you get all these people that just want to
Speaker 4: be them, and I'm like, I don't feel like anybody's
Speaker 4: like okay with themselves, Like at least that message is
Speaker 4: it's okay to be you. So when I started doing videos,
Speaker 4: like I was getting my little two views one was
Speaker 4: for my mother and I'm.
Speaker 2: Like, okay, five, Like I got it.
Speaker 4: But eventually they just started to kind of like take off.
Speaker 4: And I want to say I wasn't prepared for it
Speaker 4: in a sense because I just didn't think that the
Speaker 4: message would resonate with as many people as it did.
Speaker 3: So then here we are now.
Speaker 1: Like of course it would, because I feel like the
Speaker 1: problem with influencers. Everybody wants you to envy them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know people that won't even post where they live
Speaker 1: because other influencers have these beautiful homes that they don't
Speaker 1: even feel appropriate to record in their own space anymore.
Speaker 2: Honey, I want you to rewind. I want you to
Speaker 2: say that again because that was such a honestly a
Speaker 2: profound statement that you feel like Instagram influencers want you
Speaker 2: to envy them. I never looked at it that well.
Speaker 1: Of course, look at my look at my kitchen, look
Speaker 1: at my bathroom, look at my versace.
Speaker 2: I always record everything. I always this is just me.
Speaker 2: I want people to recognize and know that I am
Speaker 2: humble that I.
Speaker 4: Because you're looking for people to relate to you, not
Speaker 4: people to envy your wanting that there's a mentalities out
Speaker 4: there for a lot of influence to be like you
Speaker 4: got to kind of be like me or want what
Speaker 4: I have, And I'm looking for the connection record in
Speaker 4: certain spaces because they feel like it's not Instagram worths.
Speaker 3: The aesthetics is not good enough because.
Speaker 1: People now people have mansioned. They're over there in Texas.
Speaker 1: You know, my floors are heated, and it's I feel
Speaker 1: like it's a disservice to so to see someone that
Speaker 1: you know that you can relate to and be like, yo,
Speaker 1: like I shop at Rainbow's two, or I love my
Speaker 1: ten dollar dresses, like I welcome it because so many
Speaker 1: other people make you feel inferior and like just that
Speaker 1: your life is not valid because it's not like their.
Speaker 4: Life a certain lifestyle in order to be like or
Speaker 4: something that's it's like it's it's saying it without saying it,
Speaker 4: of course, And so that's why.
Speaker 3: It was just one of those things. When I do
Speaker 3: my videos, I shoot it in my living room with
Speaker 3: my parrot in the background.
Speaker 2: My favorite is the bathroom with the bathroom with the
Speaker 2: with the sheet with the bathroom curtains. She's like, y'all
Speaker 2: don't get this BS.
Speaker 4: Honest, y'all gona know the message is for real for me,
Speaker 4: and it's not like I'm not trying to like be
Speaker 4: anything that I'm not.
Speaker 2: When you're in your bathroom, I know it smells like
Speaker 2: I'm telling you so. So. Then so you're still working
Speaker 2: at the post office, like we said, you're you're grinding
Speaker 2: sixteen hour days. You are delivering those packages and now
Speaker 2: you're delivering package that. So when did you think to yourself,
Speaker 2: because I think this is a critical or a pivotal
Speaker 2: moment in people's career, when did you say to yourself,
Speaker 2: I am going to take the leap.
Speaker 4: Honestly, it wasn't even like I had made that decision.
Speaker 4: I had gotten very sick from working in the post
Speaker 4: office and working such long hours. And again it was
Speaker 4: during the pandemic, so everybody was spending the stimulus checks,
Speaker 4: you know, ordering from Amazon. So it was just it
Speaker 4: was very intense. And at one point I had dropped
Speaker 4: forty pounds in a month.
Speaker 2: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I ended up hospitalized and the doctor told me.
Speaker 4: They were like, your body is breaking down way too
Speaker 4: much for somebody who is just thirty years old. If
Speaker 4: you continue on this route, you are going to die.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 3: And so I remember it because of work, Because of
Speaker 3: the work stress. It was beyond stress.
Speaker 4: It was just like, like I said, since you're running
Speaker 4: up and down steps all day delivering packages, it's just
Speaker 4: like it's physically demanding.
Speaker 1: Oh, because you're in the city, Yeah, I'm thinking of houses.
Speaker 4: No, I'm doing this in the Bronx oh Fordham Road,
Speaker 4: all the businesses, so it's just like it's physically demanding,
Speaker 4: of course mentally like demanding everything.
Speaker 2: I wasn't getting enough sleep.
Speaker 4: So when the doctor gave me that real conversation of
Speaker 4: being like, if you continue on, you will lose your
Speaker 4: life and you are only thirty, it was like, I
Speaker 4: kind of have to make a choice about something and
Speaker 4: I can't continue to do this.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want you to continue this. We're going to
Speaker 2: take a short break, but I am dying to hear
Speaker 2: the rest of this. So we're gonna we're gonna break
Speaker 2: for a second and then we'll be back with Little
Speaker 2: Sasson Packet. MANA, all right, guys, now we are back
Speaker 2: with Sassoon. You know her as Little Sassoon Packet on
Speaker 2: all social media channels. And you were just filling us
Speaker 2: in on that moment when you said, well, actually it
Speaker 2: was decided for you that you were going to stop
Speaker 2: working and you were going to devote yourself to you know,
Speaker 2: this new direction. And so I want you to take
Speaker 2: you through those first couple of weeks where were you
Speaker 2: just kind of like recording videos and then stopping and
Speaker 2: being like, nah, I'm not going to post that. Were
Speaker 2: you like doubting yourself or were you just all in. No,
Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think for a second.
Speaker 4: I was on like I was myself because at the point,
Speaker 4: because I had loved when I left the post office.
Speaker 3: Again, it was in the pandemic, so it's not like
Speaker 3: I could.
Speaker 4: Just find another job. So I was like, at this point,
Speaker 4: I have to make whatever I'm doing work for me.
Speaker 4: And let me tell you, I would just make video
Speaker 4: after video after things that I thought, and what was
Speaker 4: crazy is that nothing was taking off. And finally when
Speaker 4: a video took off, it only took off because somebody else.
Speaker 3: You know how TikTok, they.
Speaker 2: Can use your voice. Yeah, so somebody else used my.
Speaker 4: Voice and the video blew up on their page. Wait,
Speaker 4: which one wasn't it was?
Speaker 2: It was an old.
Speaker 4: Rant where I said something along the lines of if
Speaker 4: you like, if you cheat on me, your trash and
Speaker 4: the woman who has you like a raccoon, if you
Speaker 4: want to take my man, something like that. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: and the person did my voice over didn't accredit me,
Speaker 4: and it went like megaviral.
Speaker 1: ND there I think I remember the raccoons. I think
Speaker 1: I remember that people would I think remember this.
Speaker 4: Fourteen point six million on this person's page, and I
Speaker 4: was like to the point people were coming back to
Speaker 4: my voice and being like you need to accredit her,
Speaker 4: and I was like, it's my voice.
Speaker 2: Like I was losing it because I was like, I
Speaker 2: was like, hold up.
Speaker 4: So eventually that's when I started saying meta in my
Speaker 4: videos because I was like, I gotta do something that.
Speaker 3: If people hear it, they can attribute it back to me.
Speaker 2: Like you're gonna.
Speaker 3: Knows I've heard that before.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So then I was like mita And then that
Speaker 4: was it. That just became the thing with all my rants.
Speaker 4: Since I knew I had the capability to go viral, I.
Speaker 3: Was like, we're gonna just keep going and see what happens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, unbelievable. Now, we all come from hard working Latino parents.
Speaker 2: What was the response that you got home and said
Speaker 2: mommy daddy because you didn't follow in their footsteps literally,
Speaker 2: like you know, because you said that you come from
Speaker 2: a salsa dancing family and you decided not to be
Speaker 2: a performer, so you went the safe ruit, which I
Speaker 2: believe it is safe when you work for the government
Speaker 2: or yeah, you have a job like you did. What
Speaker 2: was that conversation, like.
Speaker 4: So, honestly, my father My mother was all for it.
Speaker 4: My mother was just like, whatever you're gonna do, you know,
Speaker 4: she's very supportive. My father was like, don't talk about it,
Speaker 4: do it. I want to see it. Because there's also dancers,
Speaker 4: so they couldn't they couldn't really say much about pursuing
Speaker 4: our entertainment field because that's what they've done themselves. So
Speaker 4: my dad was just like, listen, I'm gonna be real
Speaker 4: with you. He was like, if you're gonna do it,
Speaker 4: you better do it. He was like, I don't want
Speaker 4: to hear like you quit on this. He was like,
Speaker 4: go for it, and I want to see the results.
Speaker 2: And I was like, all right, dad, you got it.
Speaker 2: So that was it. And it took a while.
Speaker 4: Like I said, those videos were getting those two three.
Speaker 4: When I got my first one hundred views, I was like,
Speaker 4: I'm a star.
Speaker 1: Are your parents more Americanized? Like do they understand the
Speaker 1: concept of what an influencer is?
Speaker 3: To be honest with you, my father he's like he
Speaker 3: still calls it book face.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: He's like I don't do the book face and the
Speaker 4: gram stuff. But like he's he's learning about social media,
Speaker 4: but he doesn't know about like the world of like
Speaker 4: do you understand.
Speaker 1: Like the concept of like this is your occupation. But
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of Latino parents when you're writer,
Speaker 1: when your painter, when you're a poet.
Speaker 2: They don't understand.
Speaker 4: He just saw the first check come in and he
Speaker 4: was like, Okay, it's working.
Speaker 2: So that was what it was.
Speaker 1: Once he saw the money coming, and then he was like, Okay, I.
Speaker 2: Guess I guess he's making it work.
Speaker 4: Yeah, then they can make it support asking me for
Speaker 4: the money exactly. He was like, oh you're not you
Speaker 4: could pay for this grub Hub. Okay, yes, I can
Speaker 4: add because of Rita, no problem.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 4: So yeah, No, they were just they were always supportive.
Speaker 4: The one thing I love about my parents is because,
Speaker 4: again in the sauce of war, they're legendary names.
Speaker 3: So people always assumed.
Speaker 4: Like, oh, you're gonna continue on your father's legacy because
Speaker 4: he's worked with.
Speaker 1: Them.
Speaker 2: Out who are you give us?
Speaker 3: Her parents Eddie and Maria tours they're known as the
Speaker 3: Mambo King and Queen.
Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I like, I grew up with this
Speaker 4: whole mentality of if you're going to make entertainment work,
Speaker 4: you have to if there's no door.
Speaker 2: Make a door.
Speaker 3: Because my parents have been like that, and so I'm really.
Speaker 4: Grateful for growing up in that kind of environment. But
Speaker 4: my dad was just like, don't talk about it, Rita.
Speaker 4: He was like, I want to see you do it.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this is giving me goosebumps because when
Speaker 2: I spoke to my parents, my dad's a doctor. My
Speaker 2: mom raised six kids, so she never had time for
Speaker 2: a job. And when I went to my mom and
Speaker 2: dad and I said I want to I want to
Speaker 2: work in radio and TV and and they both looked
Speaker 2: at me. And my dad actually was the one who
Speaker 2: said to me, which is interesting, it was your your dad.
Speaker 2: In the conversation, my dad said to me, I don't
Speaker 2: know how to help you, but I'll always support you.
Speaker 2: That's beautiful, and he said because it was like with
Speaker 2: my brothers and sisters. They went to med school. They were,
Speaker 2: you know, so smart, and they were like applying to
Speaker 2: medical school and he could guide them and he could
Speaker 2: tell them what to do. But with me, and that's
Speaker 2: where I felt like they were very nervous because they
Speaker 2: didn't know how to direct me or guide me, you know.
Speaker 2: But he said, I'll always support you, and then to
Speaker 2: that effect. When I was, you know, grinding at the
Speaker 2: beginning of my career and you know, I was doing
Speaker 2: My mom was the one who reminded me. She's like,
Speaker 2: e huh, She's like, when you pray and you get it,
Speaker 2: you have to yourself you prayed for it. You prayed
Speaker 2: for this, so you can't complain, you know. And so
Speaker 2: I think that that's something that a lot of people
Speaker 2: don't understand about this industry. You know, when you get
Speaker 2: the blessings or when you get that little foot in
Speaker 2: the door, you know, you got to totally go for it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and not only like even with going for it.
Speaker 4: And I'm sure because you know, you do radio and
Speaker 4: things like that, the struggle to even be seen as
Speaker 4: something serious as lad. You know, I started off wanting
Speaker 4: to be an actor and those doors weren't opening for me.
Speaker 4: And then I did reality TV and that kind of
Speaker 4: just didn't work out. I've had several Instagrams because I've
Speaker 4: had them taken down. People like reporting videos to make
Speaker 4: sure that nothing grows.
Speaker 2: Honey knows all about that.
Speaker 4: Be super real for me, I've seen what I don't understand.
Speaker 4: I'm like, I believe that everybody could eat.
Speaker 2: There's enough money.
Speaker 4: If Jeff Bezils has enough money for everybody in this
Speaker 4: room have houses and stuff, there's enough money out there.
Speaker 4: So unfortunately, there's people who don't have that mentality that
Speaker 4: everybody can eat, and they look at it like competition.
Speaker 4: And so when I tell you that I'm on my
Speaker 4: seventh this is my seventh instance grand page.
Speaker 3: Oh wow, I was on.
Speaker 4: I was determined. I remember at one point I had
Speaker 4: eighty thousand followers on TikTok and then my whole page
Speaker 4: got taken down, and I was like, I'm not doing
Speaker 4: this anymore.
Speaker 5: Was its like no, no, honestly, what was crazy was
Speaker 5: my video My TikTok was taken down because during the
Speaker 5: BLM movement, I said, Latinos, we need to we need
Speaker 5: to gather together and support this because especially as Caribbean
Speaker 5: latinas Puerto Ricans, like, that's in my blood, that's a Harris.
Speaker 4: Was back and Brown absolutely and Brown and so whoever
Speaker 4: whoever it was, I didn't like that message, reported it
Speaker 4: as hate speech.
Speaker 3: And my whole TikTok was taken down. And I remember
Speaker 3: because I had at eighty thousand followers at the time,
Speaker 3: and I was like I'm not doing this again.
Speaker 2: I was like, this is crazy because you build it.
Speaker 3: I had built it, and I was like.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't know if you're going to get
Speaker 2: that kind of trash it again. Yeah, you know.
Speaker 4: So I remember I had a conversation with a friend
Speaker 4: who was like, reader, you have to do it again,
Speaker 4: and I was like, I don't want to. He was like,
Speaker 4: it's not about what you want. He was like you
Speaker 4: have to. He was like, you are a face for
Speaker 4: latinos and he was like, on there's not a lot
Speaker 4: of us out there, and you were doing something with it,
Speaker 4: so you need to do it again. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 4: So now I'm at six hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Hey hey hey, oh wait, I only said three hundred thousand.
Speaker 2: Well that's on TikTok though that I got it right.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, because.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, I don't want to. I don't
Speaker 2: want to like, you know, diminish your accomplishments. We have
Speaker 2: to rewind for a second. You're on reality take reading
Speaker 2: my mind. Oh no no, no, no, no, we need it.
Speaker 2: We need to go out because I need to see
Speaker 2: what was this project. So when I was twenty years old.
Speaker 4: Actually I was on MTV Made I don't know if
Speaker 4: you guys remember the Shop, and.
Speaker 2: It's that where you would follow someone or you would
Speaker 2: do something like training.
Speaker 3: They would turn you into whatever you decided to be
Speaker 3: made about. So yeah, I was on MTV.
Speaker 2: What did you want to be made?
Speaker 3: I want to be made into an actress.
Speaker 2: Oh this is beautiful. We got to do up the
Speaker 2: archives YouTube. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I wanted to be made into an actress.
Speaker 4: And I told them specifically. I said, listen, you know
Speaker 4: I live in New York, New York. It's very Broadway.
Speaker 3: I want to do TV.
Speaker 4: And they were like, congratulates, we're gonna turn you into
Speaker 4: a Broadway star.
Speaker 3: And I said, like you when you're like you shot.
Speaker 2: Me on Broadway.
Speaker 3: They had me auditioned for rent.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 3: It was a whole It was a whole mess.
Speaker 1: Though apparently I got that episode right here.
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm gonna watch it. Send me the links because
Speaker 2: we're gonna do our research.
Speaker 4: We're already my dad already fought episode.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 3: That's a lot of thing that she's like, listen all
Speaker 3: the information.
Speaker 2: Talking.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I was on My Maid.
Speaker 4: Coach was Amanda Seals. Amanda Seal, she went by Amanda
Speaker 4: Diva at the time. Yeah, yeah, and so she was
Speaker 4: a really dope individual and yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: A reality t for TV for a little bit. So, well,
Speaker 2: this is just something you know, I know that there
Speaker 2: are people who listen to us, and I always say, like,
Speaker 2: if you're if you're dissatisfied, like with your job, like
Speaker 2: maybe you're working a desk job, maybe you're doing something
Speaker 2: just because you know, we all have to get by, right,
Speaker 2: you know. And and there are people who have that driver,
Speaker 2: they like, they have that thing inside where they want
Speaker 2: to be. They want to be doing what you you do,
Speaker 2: you know. And so I think that this is such
Speaker 2: an important story for people to see that this didn't
Speaker 2: just happen overnight. This has been decades in the making.
Speaker 3: It's a ten years to little like an overnight success.
Speaker 2: Yeah it is. It's so wild. And you know, I
Speaker 2: do want to get into the psychology of social media
Speaker 2: with you, because I think that is super important. A
Speaker 2: lot of people think that once you hit, once you
Speaker 2: go viral, once you have those like videos, that is
Speaker 2: all smooth sailing. But when we come back from this break,
Speaker 2: I want to talk about how you receive messages and
Speaker 2: you know, how you deal with the criticism, and we'll
Speaker 2: touch on that right after this. All right, guys, we
Speaker 2: are back with Sasong my girl little Sassom packet, and
Speaker 2: you know you'll hear us color Sasan and Rita and
Speaker 2: all these other names. But you know what, I am
Speaker 2: just so thrilled that you're here because you really are
Speaker 2: truly a success story. And I love building up our
Speaker 2: fellow Latinas I said, I'm like, oh my gosh, I
Speaker 2: admire what you're doing. You know, I am an honey
Speaker 2: knows this about me. I am not the best at Instagram, Facebook,
Speaker 2: TikTok for everybody. It isn't I'm not good at editing.
Speaker 2: I'm not good like I'll be making arrest I'll be
Speaker 2: making food for my kids, and people like you should
Speaker 2: record yourself. I'm like, I'm just trying to get me.
Speaker 2: I just want to feed my kids so that they
Speaker 2: stop complaining.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: So it's like, there are a number of things that
Speaker 2: go into choosing this as a profession. The one thing
Speaker 2: that you know, I had mentioned that I wanted to
Speaker 2: talk to you about was the whole psychology of social media,
Speaker 2: so with the clicks and with the people sharing, and
Speaker 2: you know, all of that comes feedback. And you have
Speaker 2: done some videos which I think I know your stance
Speaker 2: on this, but I want you to help us and
Speaker 2: tell us how you deal with like the criticism or
Speaker 2: the haters, because they're all out there.
Speaker 4: So my big thing is I always tell people whoever
Speaker 4: want to get involved with this, if you don't love it,
Speaker 4: don't do it, because the feedback that you get, and
Speaker 4: I'm sure you got brutal.
Speaker 3: It is absolutely brutal. And I'm a big believer of
Speaker 3: when people.
Speaker 4: Say, oh, but you posted it on the internet, It's like,
Speaker 4: but you also posted your comment on the internet, which
Speaker 4: means if you have a right to respond, so do I.
Speaker 4: That's how I feel, and I believe in being a
Speaker 4: sweetheart and not a doormat where most people I think
Speaker 4: the internet has just become a safe space for bullies.
Speaker 3: A lot of people attack you when you defend yourself.
Speaker 2: And they be like, well, you just have to ignore it.
Speaker 4: It's like no, at some point you have to take
Speaker 4: hold of your mental health because it can't affect you
Speaker 4: and be like, this is not a page that you
Speaker 4: can just speak freely in not necessarily disagreement.
Speaker 2: That's fine.
Speaker 3: You can disagree with me.
Speaker 4: You don't have to disrespect me in order to disagree
Speaker 4: with me. And I'm a big fan of that, Like
Speaker 4: tell me your stance if you don't agree, but you
Speaker 4: don't have to come at my character or just go
Speaker 4: out of your way.
Speaker 3: To be nasty in order to get your point across.
Speaker 2: It's so simple because it's a human thing, right, Like,
Speaker 2: you know, we're all human, and people think that just
Speaker 2: because you're putting something out there. It's just like reality
Speaker 2: TV starts, they say, well, you signed up for it,
Speaker 2: well you knew what reality TV was. Well you don't
Speaker 2: also know how people are going to receive a message,
Speaker 2: see you know what I mean. So there are people
Speaker 2: who have innocently been on reality TV or who are
Speaker 2: influencers who don't necessarily think that people are going to
Speaker 2: digest the things that they given.
Speaker 4: And they don't know how it's going to be edited either,
Speaker 4: where it's just like that sentence may have not gone
Speaker 4: down the way it was portrayed, and now now you're
Speaker 4: seeing as like, you know, this awful person is like,
Speaker 4: but that's not.
Speaker 2: What happened, right, you know, so again, when.
Speaker 4: When you post on social media, a lot of times,
Speaker 4: like I've said, I go in with the mentality of like,
Speaker 4: this is how I feel at the time, whether I'm
Speaker 4: wrong or right, I'm always going to be real about
Speaker 4: it and respectful, and that's how I deliver my message.
Speaker 4: Right and I've gotten ridiculous. Then I have people tell
Speaker 4: me like they want my family killed, like I've gotten
Speaker 4: like really harsh messages. And that's why I'm a big believer.
Speaker 4: Of course, blocking is my number one thing.
Speaker 2: Babe.
Speaker 4: You got to go because you're not going to get
Speaker 4: your first life on my page. Not today, no bye,
Speaker 4: but there's time.
Speaker 2: That's what we're not doing. Yeah, we're not any kind
Speaker 2: of like you know fodder.
Speaker 4: User five sixty nine three who want to act crazy,
Speaker 4: not today, not here. But I'm also again a big
Speaker 4: believer of you should be able to take a stand
Speaker 4: for yourself on your page and be like enough, like
Speaker 4: you don't have to attack me in order to have
Speaker 4: a conversation with me if you don't agree.
Speaker 2: Which which videos do you think have received that type
Speaker 2: of feedback? All of them? All of that. See, that's
Speaker 2: what I don't understand because when I did my deep
Speaker 2: dive like back, and gosh, I've been following you out.
Speaker 2: I don't even know how long have we been talking,
Speaker 2: like a year or so or so, like yeah, because
Speaker 2: I reached out to her and I was like, I
Speaker 2: love your content, like and I feel like it's so
Speaker 2: important again, you know, I'm not just saying this I am.
Speaker 2: I don't know if I'm part of the minority. I
Speaker 2: only put goodness out on social media. I only big
Speaker 2: people up. I only tell them you're amazing, like I
Speaker 2: love you, even if people look at me like a fangirl,
Speaker 2: like I said, I'm like a puppy dog, you know.
Speaker 2: But I think it's so important, so I've never When
Speaker 2: I do get feedback like that, it's it's so hurtful
Speaker 2: to me because it's like that's not even in my
Speaker 2: own character or my nature, you know. So it's like
Speaker 2: with your videos.
Speaker 1: Is there like a pattern, like is it a you know,
Speaker 1: it's said all is it a certain type of person?
Speaker 2: Is it other women?
Speaker 1: Is it men?
Speaker 3: Like I said Latinos, It's it's all of the above.
Speaker 4: And it's even more hurtful when it comes from like
Speaker 4: Latinos too, because I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, I'm trying to try us out there, us out there.
Speaker 4: So basically I know I do so Basically a lot
Speaker 4: of people I believe they speak from their triggers, and
Speaker 4: so their problem isn't with you, It's just that they
Speaker 4: are triggered from whatever they feel like.
Speaker 3: You're the messages and insecure about and so they have
Speaker 3: to find a reason to attack you.
Speaker 4: So for example, even the cheap videos where I'm like,
Speaker 4: oh you can look good but cheap, I've had people
Speaker 4: come in and be like, oh, you say that now,
Speaker 4: but somebody else is probably buying those outfits for you,
Speaker 4: or you only say that because you look like that.
Speaker 4: So don't try to encourage people when your body is
Speaker 4: like this. So when i have a huge message about
Speaker 4: having a football where I'm like, listen, I love my
Speaker 4: little back rolls and my jelly rolls.
Speaker 2: And if it's here today, it's here today.
Speaker 4: If it's not body positive, people like you don't have
Speaker 4: a big enough stomach to talk like I'm like.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, They're like, they say hold on, really they
Speaker 1: want Liz, it'll pull up.
Speaker 2: They say, oh sorry.
Speaker 3: It's like like I tell what I tell people.
Speaker 4: I gained I was one hundred and twenty five pounds.
Speaker 4: I'm now one seventy.
Speaker 2: That's a big like, that's a big weight game jump
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 1: I don't have a badass body.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. By the way, Fred the Mailman, okay,
Speaker 2: he is one of our male listeners, so always comments
Speaker 2: he is about to follow you just be prepared. Package
Speaker 2: is beautiful. You you hear the whole package. But even
Speaker 2: just that statement right there, yeah we're not big enough.
Speaker 3: To Yeah, yeah you're not big enough or like I had.
Speaker 4: I'll get a lot of backhanded compliments, but I think
Speaker 4: are even worse where they're just like, girl, you're so gorgeous,
Speaker 4: But honestly, I think you're kind of fraudulent because you
Speaker 4: say this, but it's only because your stomach looks like this.
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I'm like, respectfully, like I've never had kids.
Speaker 4: My body has never changed from that, so I can
Speaker 4: only talk about the changes that I've dealt with, which is,
Speaker 4: you know, the weight game.
Speaker 2: So I'm see you're coming in with honesty and just
Speaker 2: the fact that you told people you were one twenty
Speaker 2: five and now you're this or you know, a lot
Speaker 2: of people would never you know what I mean. And
Speaker 2: it's like I think that people need to put things
Speaker 2: in perspective. But you can't teach everybody.
Speaker 4: You can't teach that, like I said, a lot of people.
Speaker 4: That's why one of my slogans is argue with your therapists, because.
Speaker 3: I don't have time.
Speaker 4: If you and whatever is triggering you to be especially
Speaker 4: if my message is positive, whatever triggering you to be nasty,
Speaker 4: you're gonna have to tell your therapist because you're not
Speaker 4: gonna argue with me over it. Like I believe in
Speaker 4: the message that I say. Everything that I say on
Speaker 4: social media, I really stand behind.
Speaker 2: So I'm fragile. I'd be crying in my closet. Girls,
Speaker 2: She's like, I got this girl with my bad leant.
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's the computer.
Speaker 4: You know. It got to the point I'm not just
Speaker 4: like you said. It got to the point that I
Speaker 4: used to spend hours going back and forth with people
Speaker 4: pressure like that, you know, because you go for there
Speaker 4: when you go to Latino family Like growing up in
Speaker 4: the Bronx, my mom was like, if I ever hear
Speaker 4: that somebody's bullying you and you're not doing nothing back,
Speaker 4: we're gonna have a problem at home.
Speaker 2: So I was like, nobody, nobody.
Speaker 3: Gonna talk to me crazy.
Speaker 4: So social media, I still come in with that same
Speaker 4: kind of mensaudi. So I had to in a way
Speaker 4: grow out of that.
Speaker 3: Because I would spend my whole day back and forth
Speaker 3: with people.
Speaker 2: Right, But then you also overlook the people who are
Speaker 2: giving you that love and the positivity and building you up,
Speaker 2: and I.
Speaker 3: Get so focused on the negative.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's like, it's like, I think it's human
Speaker 4: conditions totally to zone in on the negative. And so
Speaker 4: a friend of mine, I have such a great support group,
Speaker 4: same thing. They told me that the energy that you're
Speaker 4: using to spend on the people who dislike you, spend
Speaker 4: it on the people.
Speaker 3: Who are moved by you.
Speaker 4: And I'm like, you're absolutely right, because they're the ones
Speaker 4: who deserve to have a conversation with me.
Speaker 2: So wow, wow, Now I want to go back and
Speaker 2: touch on this too, because your body positivity it has
Speaker 2: to come from somewhere, you know. And I think that
Speaker 2: you've spoken about this on your videos, but I want
Speaker 2: you to share it with our listeners because I think
Speaker 2: there are so many women and men who could use this.
Speaker 2: So talk about how you got to the place where
Speaker 2: you are now.
Speaker 4: It took a long time of course, you know, as women,
Speaker 4: there's such standards that they have, like you have to
Speaker 4: be this so that you have to look a certain
Speaker 4: way all the time. And so my I was not
Speaker 4: the pretty girl growing up. I was known as butterface
Speaker 4: in high school.
Speaker 2: But you weren't the pretty girl I was, And I
Speaker 2: had I had cistic acne bracest.
Speaker 4: My unibrow connected better than some people and their mother's
Speaker 4: like it was really bad.
Speaker 2: She had a less situations too, but you think you
Speaker 2: so she had brace.
Speaker 4: So I was the posts was coming in like yo,
Speaker 4: submity stam like it was a real thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yah you thank you. The swan came in.
Speaker 4: And so it's funny because I since I thank God
Speaker 4: for those years honestly, because it developed the personality to
Speaker 4: be like, listen, if this is what I have to
Speaker 4: work with, I'm gonna have to work with it. And
Speaker 4: for a long time I wanted to look like everybody else.
Speaker 4: I kind of lived in that mentality too, and so
Speaker 4: I was real. At one point, I was like one
Speaker 4: hundred and sixteen pounds in my twenties. Then I jumped
Speaker 4: to one twenty and I had relationships where they were
Speaker 4: like they wanted me to be thick or they wanted
Speaker 4: me to be thin.
Speaker 3: I was just never right. So at one point I
Speaker 3: was like enough enough, Like.
Speaker 4: I'm never going to be everything perfect for one person,
Speaker 4: Like I just if I'm gonna spend this one life here,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna love me, like.
Speaker 3: That's what needs to happen.
Speaker 4: And so slowly but surely it's And when you first
Speaker 4: start loving yourself, it's not a great process, like everyone assumes, like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you just say those affirmations in the mirror.
Speaker 4: No, it feels like you're lying, yeah, because your mind
Speaker 4: is like you don't believe that you got cankles?
Speaker 3: Do you really believe that? It's like, so it was
Speaker 3: just a slow journey.
Speaker 4: And then honestly, I found out recently that I have PCOS,
Speaker 4: which means it explains a lot of my waking homone
Speaker 4: and waking and explained my acnet and both my.
Speaker 2: Facial cos is. They don't know PCOS.
Speaker 4: Is polycystic ovarian syndrome, and so it just it makes
Speaker 4: your your homeones are fluctuating. It can cause infertility. It
Speaker 4: is just something that a lot of women don't even
Speaker 4: know that they struggle with. And so when I found
Speaker 4: out it was devastating because I've always wanted, you know,
Speaker 4: to be a mom. I've never been blessed with having kids,
Speaker 4: and at one point when they told me it could
Speaker 4: cause in fertility, it was just like another thing that
Speaker 4: the woman's body goes through that's probably not even spoken of.
Speaker 4: So even with my own messages, sometimes I have to
Speaker 4: go back and remind myself, like you still believe this, right,
Speaker 4: like you still stand by this, and it's like, okay,
Speaker 4: I do.
Speaker 3: I have to remind myself that.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, Okay, now I'm like, first of all,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna cry. Second of all, I do want to
Speaker 2: give you credit for something, and will you please stay
Speaker 2: with us? We please stay, okay, because I have so
Speaker 2: much more I want to talk to you about. So
Speaker 2: we're gonna actually wrap up this show, and I want
Speaker 2: you to stay for a second episode of Life in
Speaker 2: Spanguish with us because I want to tell you how
Speaker 2: you helped me come out of a dark place with
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Speaker 2: you know what, We're gonna have you stick around because,
Speaker 2: like I said, we're gonna do something that we do
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