WEBVTT - Michael Shea Meets World 0:00:20.280 --> 0:00:22.840 So I don't know if you guys have checked out 0:00:23.000 --> 0:00:26.920 Shifting Gears yet. It's Tim Allen and Kat Denning's new 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:32.800 sitcom on ABC, but I got to direct an episode 0:00:32.800 --> 0:00:34.720 of it in their first season. They did ten episodes 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.360 in their first season. I directed episode number four. It 0:00:37.400 --> 0:00:43.920 was written by It was amazing, really, it was such 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:46.919 a great week. The episode I directed was written by 0:00:46.920 --> 0:00:50.120 an incredible writer named Morgan Murphy, who is so funny. 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:52.640 She used to do stand up. She actually still does 0:00:52.680 --> 0:00:55.040 stand up, but she's a stand up comedian. She's written 0:00:55.040 --> 0:00:59.400 on Abbot Elementary. She's incredible. She's a wonderful writer. The 0:00:59.440 --> 0:01:03.440 show runner is Michelle Nader, who's also wonderful. Was one 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:07.240 of the showrunners of Two Broke Girls Did Dollface, so 0:01:07.240 --> 0:01:10.120 she's known Kat Dennings for a while. And then me 0:01:10.319 --> 0:01:12.720 as the director, and then Tim Allen and we looked 0:01:12.720 --> 0:01:15.360 around and it was like Tim surrounded by all these people. 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:18.080 We were like, Tim, is this is this your favorite? 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:18.679 Do you love this? 0:01:18.800 --> 0:01:19.280 Do you love that? 0:01:19.360 --> 0:01:21.600 Everywhere you look it's just all these women around you, 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:23.479 And he was like, you know, it was pretty great, 0:01:23.840 --> 0:01:24.800 So yeah, it was. 0:01:24.920 --> 0:01:26.680 It was really fun. I had such a great experience 0:01:26.680 --> 0:01:26.959 on it. 0:01:27.080 --> 0:01:30.039 I'll say I was a little nervous going into it because, 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:32.520 you know, I've never worked with Tim Allan. I had 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:34.680 met Tim Allen when I was a kid, when I 0:01:34.720 --> 0:01:37.759 would go visit, you know, Jonathan on the Home Improvement set. 0:01:37.840 --> 0:01:39.959 Yeah, when you were dating Home Improvement, right when. 0:01:39.840 --> 0:01:44.839 I dat Jonathan. 0:01:45.040 --> 0:01:46.920 I don't know what any of. 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:49.640 The rest of that was, but yeah. But so I 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.680 had never worked with him, and he's obviously a huge star. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:56.040 And I had never worked with or met Kat Dennings, 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:59.000 but I had communicated with her via Twitter many a 0:01:59.120 --> 0:02:02.440 years ago and knew that she seemed wonderful. But you 0:02:02.520 --> 0:02:04.440 never know when you until you meet somebody like, oh, 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.440 are we going to connect? And they have Shifting Gears 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:12.160 has a very well known director named John Pasquin, who's 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:14.480 a producer on the show as well, and he is 0:02:14.560 --> 0:02:17.519 directing most of the episodes. If I'm not mistaken, he's 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:21.320 directing seven out of their ten episodes, and then the 0:02:21.360 --> 0:02:24.799 other three episodes. I got one, and another very well 0:02:24.800 --> 0:02:28.880 known director named Victor Gonzalez got too, and so I'm 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.760 direct I was the first director outside of John Pasquin 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:34.480 to come in and direct an episode of the show. 0:02:34.800 --> 0:02:37.960 And everyone's used to John. Everyone loves John. 0:02:38.040 --> 0:02:40.120 John's a producer, and I knew that John was going 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:42.760 to be there and was going to be overseeing me, 0:02:43.000 --> 0:02:44.960 and I just I was very nervous. 0:02:45.000 --> 0:02:46.519 I was like, oh my gosh. 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:49.639 And suddenly all the confidence you have as a director, 0:02:49.760 --> 0:02:51.919 you're like, why am I feeling so like? No one 0:02:51.919 --> 0:02:54.560 by the way made me feel like I shouldn't be confident. 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:55.880 If anything, it was the impostor. 0:02:56.639 --> 0:02:59.200 Yes, I just started thinking like, this is it, this 0:02:59.280 --> 0:03:02.000 is what I find out. I don't know what I'm doing. 0:03:02.160 --> 0:03:04.720 This is the moment it's all gonna come crashing down. 0:03:05.200 --> 0:03:08.560 And yeah, I was really I was really nervous. And 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:12.600 then every single day just got better and better and 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:17.560 better until we had the live studio audience tape night, 0:03:17.720 --> 0:03:22.280 which is so it's everything, you guys, remember it. 0:03:22.280 --> 0:03:23.560 It's everything and more. 0:03:23.919 --> 0:03:27.120 And Tim had said, listen, I want to have a 0:03:27.280 --> 0:03:31.079 nice intro setup. So while I was there, they built 0:03:31.280 --> 0:03:34.640 they built a rod in front of their existing sets 0:03:34.920 --> 0:03:39.040 that has a gorgeous burgundy curtain that drops down. They 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:41.119 did up lights in front of it, and they made 0:03:41.160 --> 0:03:43.120 a sign that says the name of the show, Shifting 0:03:43.160 --> 0:03:46.040 Gears and they put it out there for intros and 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:51.280 curtain call and they do a gorgeous introduction. The audience 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:56.920 was great, thrilled to see them. Cat Dennings, I sorry 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.480 to Jensen and sorry to Cat dennings husband. I want 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:06.160 to marry Kat Dennings. I am truly in love with her. 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:11.400 She is the dream of all dreams. We absolutely connected. 0:04:11.480 --> 0:04:13.320 It was like hard to find time to work because honestly, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.400 I just wanted to sit there and talk to her 0:04:14.440 --> 0:04:16.599 about all things life, all things jewelry. 0:04:17.080 --> 0:04:18.360 It was really such an incredible way. 0:04:18.360 --> 0:04:20.080 You're a huge Boy Meets World fan. 0:04:20.120 --> 0:04:20.320 You know. 0:04:20.440 --> 0:04:24.400 She gave us the nicest compliment and just a very 0:04:24.440 --> 0:04:28.520 casual conversation. She said, you know, I think it was 0:04:28.560 --> 0:04:31.960 watching Boy Meets World that sparked my love of comedy. 0:04:32.520 --> 0:04:35.599 And she said, and I've rewatched the show several times 0:04:35.600 --> 0:04:39.279 since then, and every time I think, this is so 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:43.919 funny and this is so good and so yes. I 0:04:43.960 --> 0:04:46.960 wanted to pass that compliment along to you guys, because 0:04:47.279 --> 0:04:50.600 she was a big Boy Meets World fan and is 0:04:50.960 --> 0:04:53.000 just she's She's a unicorn. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.040 Truly, she's a unicorn. 0:04:54.120 --> 0:04:57.040 She's just incredible that everything doesn't miss a beat is 0:04:57.080 --> 0:05:01.839 a nice person, fun to be around. Oh anyway, she's 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:02.600 my new obsession. 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.159 Just love her anyway. It was a really great experience. 0:05:06.279 --> 0:05:08.880 If you haven't checked out Shifting Gears, I highly recommend 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.159 that you do. I think they're really doing something very 0:05:11.200 --> 0:05:17.880 special there, which is tackling very relatable modern day subjects 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:21.440 like what do you do when you have a family 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:26.159 member who has completely opposing views to you, how do 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:31.000 you live under the same roof, how do you manage relationships? 0:05:31.640 --> 0:05:34.360 How do you comfort each other when you are regularly 0:05:34.400 --> 0:05:38.480 butting heads. They also my episode was a big episode 0:05:38.520 --> 0:05:41.760 about how you handle grief and how grief comes in 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:46.000 waves and is never really a one time thing you 0:05:46.040 --> 0:05:49.720 deal with. It will keep rearing its ugly head and 0:05:50.440 --> 0:05:51.320 it's really beautiful. 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:52.479 It's a really great show. 0:05:52.520 --> 0:05:54.280 So if you haven't checked it out, I highly recommend 0:05:54.360 --> 0:05:57.960 you check out Shifting Gears on ABC. It's Tuesday nights 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:02.000 at eight pm. And yeah, so I'm excited about that opportunity, 0:06:02.040 --> 0:06:02.720 So check it out. 0:06:03.240 --> 0:06:04.000 It's good for you. 0:06:04.279 --> 0:06:05.039 Thank you so much. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:07.080 Got I missed that rush of running in front of 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:07.560 an audience. 0:06:07.680 --> 0:06:10.600 Yeah you, We'll have to do it again. It's it's 0:06:11.040 --> 0:06:12.320 everything you remember, it's like. 0:06:13.839 --> 0:06:16.680 Yeah, there's no feeling like it. I mean, there's truly 0:06:16.720 --> 0:06:19.120 no feeling like you sitting by I remember. That's one 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:20.760 of the things I people always ask me, like, what 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:23.240 do you miss most about doing the show? 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:23.880 What is it? 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:24.159 Is it? 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:26.400 What you know anything? What do you miss most about it? 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:30.880 And I think the thing I missed most is sitting 0:06:31.200 --> 0:06:35.120 backstage with all of you, with the audience out. 0:06:34.920 --> 0:06:37.080 There you can hear at the time. 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:38.839 For us, it was Mitch and he's warming up the 0:06:38.839 --> 0:06:41.159 crowd and you can hear them and they're chanting sometimes 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.120 they're stomping their feet and we're all back there just 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:44.599 with each other, and you know you're about to do 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:48.040 a show. It is an energy like no other. It 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.680 just doesn't exist anywhere else. And it's I think I 0:06:50.720 --> 0:06:53.760 miss that moment more than anything else. 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:56.320 Is just all of us together before the show starts. 0:06:56.360 --> 0:06:59.480 It was just magical. Really was Welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.440 I'm Daniel, I'm right or Strong, and I'm Wilfredell. 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.480 Before this week's guest even joins our zoom, he is 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:22.200 Pod Meets World Royalty. We've gotten emails that sign off 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.960 with the saying people have yelled it at us at conventions. 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.800 The phrase Steve's having a baby went from a thirty 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:33.640 year old inside joke to a memory we now share 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:36.520 with all of you, said with the perfect amount of 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:39.960 enthusiasm and yet the type of efficiency you'd expect from 0:07:40.000 --> 0:07:42.880 one of our favorite stage managers while talking about one 0:07:42.880 --> 0:07:46.080 of our other favorite stage managers. It's a phrase we 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:49.560 will say to each other until the day that we die, 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:54.160 and now maybe you'll remember for just as long until 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:55.680 we die. 0:07:55.720 --> 0:07:58.600 And we have this week's guest to thank for it. 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:03.840 Anything for sleep. See how Daniell equates it. 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:08.120 I'm telling you he completes a holy trinity of sorts. 0:08:08.280 --> 0:08:11.280 The third interview of three stage managers that have special 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:13.920 places in our hearts. He worked on the show for 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.480 four and a half seasons, joining us not only near 0:08:16.520 --> 0:08:19.800 the beginning of his career, but from a legendary Hollywood 0:08:19.800 --> 0:08:22.720 family that made him a veteran before he even started 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:26.040 working professionally. After leaving Us, he'd first a d for 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:30.200 so many impressive shows, including a little program called How 0:08:30.240 --> 0:08:33.240 I Met Your Mother, where he worked for their entire 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:36.120 run and got to direct for his first time during 0:08:36.160 --> 0:08:38.640 their fifth season, and with How great. 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:39.240 He was on set. 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:41.120 It came as no surprise to us that he went 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:43.160 on to direct for shows like How I Met Your Father, 0:08:43.320 --> 0:08:45.680 The Thunderman's One Day at a Time, Men at Work, 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:49.760 nine JKL, and School of Rock. And he's still out 0:08:49.760 --> 0:08:53.000 there helping make people laugh now on NBC's Happiest Place. 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:55.720 An ironic title for a guy who brought smiles to 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:58.640 our set every day. Please welcome to Pod Meets World. 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.120 A man who can announce anyone's time of labor. It's 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:10.560 Michael Shay. Are you wearing your Boy Meets World jacket? 0:09:10.960 --> 0:09:14.240 I am wearing my boy That's really nice. 0:09:14.480 --> 0:09:15.800 That's the good one. 0:09:16.760 --> 0:09:17.400 Aged. 0:09:18.000 --> 0:09:21.440 You haven't aged at all. My god, you look the same. 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:22.440 He really does. 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:24.920 It's only been like almost thirty years. 0:09:25.720 --> 0:09:29.000 Oh, it's pretty crazy. So good to see you, So 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:29.839 good to see you. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.320 It is your first podcast appearance, but with the amount 0:09:33.320 --> 0:09:36.640 of times we have yelled Steve's having a baby, it's 0:09:36.679 --> 0:09:38.600 almost like you've been with us the entire time. 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:41.559 It came up our second episode. We were recording our 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.680 second episode and for some reason, Steve's having a baby 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:48.360 came up, and yeah, that's become our catchphrase. The whole 0:09:48.400 --> 0:09:48.920 world over. 0:09:49.320 --> 0:09:51.840 I am here to go over the origin story of 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.800 Steve a baby. Yeah, it's so exciting. 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.880 Tell me tell the boys the story you told me. 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:01.280 Michael Shaye and I ran into each other recently. He 0:10:01.480 --> 0:10:04.320 is working on Happy's Place for NBC and I was 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:06.800 directing over at Lopez versus Lopez, and so they were 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:10.480 NBC had a very nice like celebration of their comedies 0:10:10.840 --> 0:10:13.760 and Michael and I ran into each other there and 0:10:14.080 --> 0:10:17.280 you told me a very funny story about people stopping you. 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.320 About that about that phrase, Oh. 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:22.960 I two or three people have stopped me. Jaxon said, 0:10:23.080 --> 0:10:25.000 tell me tell me you're on You're on the podcast. 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:30.679 You're on the podcast. And Isaaca app Taker is one 0:10:30.679 --> 0:10:33.360 of the executive producers of How I Met Your Father. 0:10:33.559 --> 0:10:37.480 He's a great writer and he loves Boy Meets World. 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:42.440 Everything is Boy Meets World and his partner Elizabeth, and 0:10:42.920 --> 0:10:45.599 so every time it was on, he'd come down a 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:47.559 stage and go, have you listened to the latest? 0:10:47.600 --> 0:10:50.280 Have you listened to that's correct? 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:54.200 And Kelly Vaughan Harris also is one of the producers. 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:58.120 I get so much attention when I go to a meeting, 0:10:58.200 --> 0:10:59.959 and I said, well, I was on Boy Meets World 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.400 and heads turned. People come into the office, they want 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.480 to hear everything. So I just feel very fortunate to 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:09.079 have done on the show. 0:11:10.040 --> 0:11:10.240 You know. 0:11:10.480 --> 0:11:11.559 So tell us. 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.240 I think you came to us pretty early on in 0:11:14.280 --> 0:11:17.360 your career, right you You started on Full House. 0:11:17.760 --> 0:11:20.360 I did do a little Full House and we were 0:11:20.600 --> 0:11:25.280 day playing, like on Home Improvement, Full House, those kind 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.800 of shows, And then I got lucky and started with 0:11:28.920 --> 0:11:32.040 the as a third on Boy Meets World. I think 0:11:32.040 --> 0:11:34.960 it was the second season, which I think this Jackets 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:39.800 from the wonderful Arlene Grayson, producer was I remember her 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.200 handing these out. But I was doing the background and 0:11:43.320 --> 0:11:47.520 David Humor was directing, and he wanted some he wanted 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:51.199 everything in control, you know, David. And so we were 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:56.880 on Stage two at Disney. It's a gigantic stage over there. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:00.720 You had trailers in the back. You were in school 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.960 on the back with David and Wesley, and I was 0:12:05.000 --> 0:12:08.640 in another trailer with with these kids who were background, 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:11.800 and we had a great season. I came in halfway 0:12:12.120 --> 0:12:15.600 through second season, and then the third season I started 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.000 as the second stage manager. 0:12:17.160 --> 0:12:20.360 So was Lynn McCracken the first stage manager that okay, yeah, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:22.400 she did it all the way through the second season, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:24.880 I guess, and then was Steve already on board as 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:26.160 the second stage manager. 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.600 Was on board as the second So you guys both. 0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:32.960 Everybody just went up when Lynn left. 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:34.560 And lucky enough to I was able to do that 0:12:35.360 --> 0:12:39.280 and then stayed the third, fourth, fifth, and sixth, and 0:12:39.320 --> 0:12:44.800 then I came back to do the seventh one episode okay, 0:12:44.840 --> 0:12:47.319 which turns out to be my favorite episode of all 0:12:47.360 --> 0:12:50.400 time as time goes by. 0:12:50.760 --> 0:12:54.040 Oh, yeah, I don't know what that was, Steve. 0:12:54.160 --> 0:12:57.800 That's the one that Steve steh he came in to 0:12:58.240 --> 0:13:00.160 take over him while he was direct. 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.760 And it was I just watched it the other night. 0:13:04.920 --> 0:13:06.439 It is so good. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.280 Is it? 0:13:07.880 --> 0:13:10.400 Oh, we're not there yet. We're not there down there 0:13:10.480 --> 0:13:12.200 yet as a block. 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.200 I'm telling you guys, you all look so fabulous in it. 0:13:15.280 --> 0:13:19.240 And it's so funny and and uh, it was just 0:13:20.000 --> 0:13:23.320 William Russ. It's just so funny with William did to 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:25.120 get there and it's just so good. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.240 Okay, So will you do us a favor and explain 0:13:28.400 --> 0:13:32.720 for our dear listeners what is the job of both 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:35.400 So that you said the third stage manager was working 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:36.839 with the background, and when we talked to d D. 0:13:36.960 --> 0:13:38.880 D D explain that a little bit to us too. 0:13:39.360 --> 0:13:43.360 What is the job description of the second a D 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:45.320 or the you know, the second stage manager. 0:13:46.040 --> 0:13:48.080 Well, it's a lot of paperwork. Of course, we have 0:13:48.120 --> 0:13:50.440 to put a call out and then do a production 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.440 report at the end of the day. It's taking the 0:13:53.480 --> 0:13:58.920 first ad schedule and making it work, you know, Okay, 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.480 you I remember were getting you know, you guys were 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:04.079 in school a lot, and I remember going upstairs and 0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.760 waiting for you to get out of school and everyone 0:14:06.800 --> 0:14:11.160 to rehearsal. And really, I think any stage manager it's 0:14:11.280 --> 0:14:15.360 kind of setting the stage for the playground, if you would, 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:19.000 if you will, for creative people to come down and play. 0:14:19.600 --> 0:14:19.760 Yea. 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:24.000 So we're just kind of like creating the boundaries of that. 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:26.560 You know, if you need to go go to costumes, 0:14:26.640 --> 0:14:28.240 or if you need to go to hair and makeup, 0:14:28.560 --> 0:14:32.240 we're scheduling that and then getting you there basically. So 0:14:33.800 --> 0:14:36.280 I remember a lot of times, you know, chasing you 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:43.560 guys upstairs at CBS Radford rooms were upstairs. They were 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:44.760 once we had cars. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:48.280 Everything got really and then we would like leave and 0:14:48.480 --> 0:14:50.640 take a long lunch lunch. 0:14:50.880 --> 0:14:54.120 I do remember that. I do. So really this the 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:58.400 stage manager is just part of the production team, you know, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.520 and just making sure facilitating it and making sure everything's 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:06.280 getting done. Really of being serviced to the creative team, 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:08.520 you know, the directors, the writers, the actors. 0:15:08.960 --> 0:15:12.680 Wow, and so what when you first started working? What 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:15.320 was your very first job? And were there child actors? 0:15:15.320 --> 0:15:18.560 Did you always work with child actors? Were we difficult 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:19.320 to work with? 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:20.280 Oh? 0:15:20.360 --> 0:15:24.480 No, no, absolutely not. You know, I kind of grew 0:15:24.560 --> 0:15:27.200 up in this business a little bit. So, you know, 0:15:27.240 --> 0:15:30.200 I spent a lot of members Silver Spoons great shows. 0:15:30.320 --> 0:15:32.440 Oh yeah, Ricky Schroeder. 0:15:34.440 --> 0:15:36.840 So I was on that set a lot, which is 0:15:36.920 --> 0:15:40.600 at Universal Stage like forty three I think or something 0:15:40.640 --> 0:15:44.200 like that. So, and then I went to New York 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.920 and I did a little soap operas there as an 0:15:46.960 --> 0:15:51.360 actor and then as a stage manager there One life 0:15:51.360 --> 0:15:54.440 to live so happened everywhere and anywhere? 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:57.360 Really, Well, let me let me explain. So you you 0:15:57.440 --> 0:15:59.720 mentioned that you grew up in the industry. You come 0:15:59.760 --> 0:16:03.760 from quite a successful showbiz family. Your father, Jackshay, directed 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.560 some of the most legendary sitcoms of all time, including 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:12.680 one hundred and ten episodes of The Jeffersons and ninety 0:16:12.960 --> 0:16:17.400 one episodes of Silver Spoons and later became the president 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.360 of the DGA from nineteen ninety seven to two thousand 0:16:20.360 --> 0:16:22.160 and two and then on this. 0:16:22.600 --> 0:16:26.800 Yes, I never knew any of that. I remember seeing 0:16:26.840 --> 0:16:28.920 you at DGA events once I got into the DGA. 0:16:28.960 --> 0:16:31.560 I remember seeing you and then you explained like, oh, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:34.240 I'm like a guy at the DGA, like my dad 0:16:34.560 --> 0:16:36.640 ran this. I was like, what are you talking about? 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:39.320 So crazy to learn it. I had no idea when 0:16:39.320 --> 0:16:40.200 we worked with you back. 0:16:40.080 --> 0:16:42.720 Then, and that's that's just my dad. 0:16:42.760 --> 0:16:47.240 I know your mom Patricia, Yes, yes, she was a 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:52.160 three time Human Eitis Award nominated screenwriter working on All 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.760 in the Family, Cagney and Lacy and so much more. 0:16:55.960 --> 0:16:57.800 So that's so cool. 0:16:57.920 --> 0:17:03.840 You're making me blush. And it's really their love story. 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.600 You know, they met in nineteen fifty two. I believe 0:17:08.160 --> 0:17:11.119 my mom was in college here in La at Immaculate Heart, 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:13.240 and my dad went to a play that she was 0:17:13.280 --> 0:17:17.600 in and then working on, and the love story began, 0:17:17.760 --> 0:17:22.479 and you know they just went from there. So so cool. 0:17:23.200 --> 0:17:24.480 It is a Hollywood story. 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:28.080 So growing up and being on set, did you always 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:30.439 know you wanted to work in the entertainment industry. Did 0:17:30.480 --> 0:17:33.439 you start as an actor? Tell us your origin story, 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.840 the start of your entertainment career. 0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:40.160 Well, I don't know if it's entertainment career, but yes, 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:43.879 The Wonderful World of Disney had a Sunday night movie 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:48.840 called and it was called The Monster of Strawberry Cove, Okay, 0:17:51.080 --> 0:17:54.960 And I was eight and my dad was directing, so 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.960 I got to be in that. And then you know, 0:17:58.080 --> 0:18:00.639 I little parts. You know you're in there. 0:18:01.520 --> 0:18:01.720 You know. 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:03.760 He would do a pilot and there would be what 0:18:03.760 --> 0:18:07.359 we called an under five during the time, and I'd 0:18:07.359 --> 0:18:09.080 get to do the under five or something. 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:12.560 Weren't you in eighteen again with George Burns? Oh my, 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:16.000 I mean it's one of the good, the greatest films ever. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:21.320 I loved the movie. And I and Yep, Lady Orderly 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.480 and the old woman who I get to work with. 0:18:23.560 --> 0:18:26.400 Every once in a while they pull the covers back 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:29.520 and I go, she likes it that way. And then 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:32.720 I continued down the gurney hall, you know, so I 0:18:32.760 --> 0:18:36.800 got to do that. I was the King of one liners. 0:18:37.119 --> 0:18:40.800 I was in Hell Hath No Fury with Loretta Switt 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:46.000 from Mash oh yeah, yeah, well yes, yeah, hell hath 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:49.760 no fury and I played a used car salesman, so 0:18:49.920 --> 0:18:52.919 a lot of those small, small roles. But then I 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.919 moved back from New York looking for a job and 0:18:55.960 --> 0:18:59.600 I started stage managing and did home improvement kid married 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:02.479 with Chill Wren, did a few other shows, and then 0:19:02.520 --> 0:19:05.040 I got lucky and I landed on boy Meet's World. 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:08.280 That's yeah, thank you for bringing on my parents. I 0:19:08.320 --> 0:19:11.359 love talking about them. They're just it really truly is 0:19:12.040 --> 0:19:12.800 a love story. 0:19:14.720 --> 0:19:16.280 So great are they are? 0:19:16.320 --> 0:19:18.960 They both still with us, They. 0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:22.240 Are both passed, which even you know when they do pass, 0:19:22.720 --> 0:19:24.400 just all you do is want to talk about them. 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:26.440 So yes, so I. 0:19:26.400 --> 0:19:27.000 Get to do that. 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.920 So were you when you were starting in the industry. 0:19:29.920 --> 0:19:32.800 Were you more drawn to being in front of the 0:19:32.840 --> 0:19:34.720 camera or did you know you were always going to 0:19:34.840 --> 0:19:37.480 end up like your dad, like, you know, behind the 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.280 scenes and directing things and all that kind of stuff. 0:19:41.160 --> 0:19:43.480 A little bit of both. I think I had more 0:19:43.520 --> 0:19:46.280 in front of the camera desires when I was young, 0:19:47.200 --> 0:19:49.679 even when I become an old guy, you know, and 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:55.040 he's there. But I think you know, a director or writer, 0:19:55.320 --> 0:19:59.119 an actor, all those creative places is where I wanted 0:19:59.160 --> 0:20:03.359 to be you know, so yeah, yeah, but I started 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:07.520 as an actor. I remember seeing some being in the 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.840 audience of seeing some warm up and I went, oh, 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:14.720 I could I'd like that job. Oh I never got there, 0:20:14.800 --> 0:20:17.679 but I saw myself as acting, and I went to 0:20:17.720 --> 0:20:20.359 New York and went to Circle in the Square and 0:20:20.880 --> 0:20:26.320 did some off off off Broadway before I returned to 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:30.440 Los Angeles. But it was all a wonderful time. 0:20:31.280 --> 0:20:34.040 So what do you what do you think some lessons 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:38.720 you learned from your parents about making TV? What do 0:20:38.760 --> 0:20:41.000 you think are some lessons you brought with you then 0:20:41.000 --> 0:20:43.639 into your role as stage manager on Boy Meets World. 0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.920 You know, they might have come later on in my life, 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:53.000 the lessons, but I don't. I think they definitely came 0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:57.000 from my father and my mother. But you know, leave 0:20:57.040 --> 0:20:58.960 your ego at the door. 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:00.159 Yeah, I got a. 0:21:00.160 --> 0:21:06.080 Stage And that's a big one because constantly we're talking 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.560 and figuring out things. So that was a big one. 0:21:08.640 --> 0:21:10.960 Is always leave your door, leave your eager at the door. 0:21:11.920 --> 0:21:14.960 And I tell you, when I walk onto a stage, 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.720