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Speaker 1: Welcome to this week eleven, Friday edition of the From

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Speaker 1: the Podium podcast. I'm Gabe Klea. The Browns wrapped up

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Speaker 1: their practice week and we'll hop on the plane to

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Speaker 1: New Orleans tomorrow. On this episode, you'll hear from head

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Speaker 1: coach Kevin Stefanski, past game coordinator Chad Ow'shay linebackers coach

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Speaker 1: Jason Tarver, and defensive end Miles Garrett. Head coach Kevin

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Speaker 1: Stefanski leads us off today and he provided an update

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Speaker 1: on rookie defensive tackle Mike Hall junior.

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Speaker 2: Okay, going on the road down in New Orleans. Like

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Speaker 2: we've talked about all week, got to play sound football

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Speaker 2: and all three sides of the ball, gotta play complimentary

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Speaker 2: football to go try and find a way to get

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Speaker 2: a win. Burus a good football team, so that'll take any.

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Speaker 3: Questions with Mike's knee.

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Speaker 2: He had an injury yesterday in a drill, so we'll

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Speaker 2: just monitor that. But obviously tough to see him go down.

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Speaker 3: Is there a concern that it could be something longer

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Speaker 3: term than just.

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Speaker 2: This game or is it Yes, he's likely out for

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Speaker 2: a period of time, but I don't have all the

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Speaker 2: details just yet.

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Speaker 4: It is.

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Speaker 5: That's a spot where you lose Z, you lose Q.

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Speaker 5: You really haven't filled those roster spots as well. And

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Speaker 5: now you throw this into the mix. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: how do you short term band edge it for? You

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Speaker 5: know that that roomb for for this weekend?

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Speaker 2: Like we've talked about really all season every year, Chris,

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Speaker 2: you just have to be ready for anything that comes

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Speaker 2: your way, and guys step up when a guy goes

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Speaker 2: out for whatever the reason. So we like the guys

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Speaker 2: that we have at that group, and someone's gonna get

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Speaker 2: a few more reps and we trust those guys that

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Speaker 2: get those reps.

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Speaker 1: What you see.

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Speaker 2: It talked about Mike, I think on Wednesday with this group,

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Speaker 2: I think what you're getting from Mike is is a

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Speaker 2: lot of positive plays both on defense and on special teams.

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Speaker 2: He was providing some some good plays for us. So disappointed,

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Speaker 2: but we'll see how it all shakes out. But believe

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Speaker 2: in this young man's gonna be a good football player

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Speaker 2: for us.

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Speaker 6: From the couple of ends that are on in practice squad.

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Speaker 2: Smith and as Yeah, again it kind of goes back

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Speaker 2: to the previous part. Well, we'll see what decisions we

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Speaker 2: make there and who makes it to the game and

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Speaker 2: those type of things. But those are guys we like

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Speaker 2: they give great looks to our offense when they're on

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Speaker 2: scout team, So we feel really good about that.

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Speaker 7: Think you answered this, do you think that Mike might

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Speaker 7: have to have a surgery?

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Speaker 4: Not really going there yet other than the same irs

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Speaker 4: of potential.

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Speaker 3: Like Miles stretch in the last game with those three sacks.

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Speaker 2: In how many plays? Was it four plays? So I

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Speaker 2: don't remember, as I mean, what's this. Is there a

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Speaker 2: statistic that have you seen this.

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Speaker 8: Come on Murphy in year five or you still rewind

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Speaker 8: in some of his plays.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes just a yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think with Miles being an elite rusher and he's

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Speaker 2: in a class i'd say all by himself, teams plan

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Speaker 2: their whole game plan around him, and when he makes

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Speaker 2: those plays, it's that's the truly incredible part, because you

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Speaker 2: know that teams are going into it saying we can't

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Speaker 2: let him wreck this game. Uh, and then for him

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Speaker 2: to be able to do that, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: think this season, as you've seen and he's getting healthier,

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Speaker 2: I think that's another big piece of this as well.

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Speaker 4: Uh, we know what he's capable of.

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Speaker 3: You've seen opponents do to try to slow them down there.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I don't know if there's shake your head

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Speaker 5: just I mean, what's the craziest thing maybe, I.

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Speaker 2: Mean, well, you saw last year with whoever it was,

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Speaker 2: sending the tight ends back and forth wherever he lines up.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's definitely something that teams have when they

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Speaker 2: play him. They're gonna wait to see where he lines up,

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Speaker 2: front to him. There's very very few rushers that get

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Speaker 2: the type of attention that Miles gets that those premier,

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Speaker 2: premier guys. Uh, There's there's only so much you can do.

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Speaker 2: And then the other big part of this is getting

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Speaker 2: the ball out of the quarterback's hand, which teams certainly

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Speaker 2: want to do that quicker than versus most teams.

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Speaker 9: Headik was a.

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Speaker 8: Game plan in this week for Alvin Kamara, and he's

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Speaker 6: He seems to be the centerpiece offense.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's certainly the centerpiece. He's a great player.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's an elite player and they're they're utilizing

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Speaker 2: him really well. He's good in the run game and

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Speaker 2: really every run scheme he's good at He's an excellent receiver,

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Speaker 2: whether coming out of the backfield, they're lined up out wide,

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Speaker 2: he's excellent in the screen game.

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Speaker 4: He's hard to get on the ground. He's an elite player.

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Speaker 6: Things when there's one guy that's such a focal.

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Speaker 2: Point of what they do well, he's the focal point,

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Speaker 2: certainly because he's the leading rusher and the leading receiver.

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Speaker 2: But there's other guys that can hurt you. That's the

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Speaker 2: challenge of going up against this team, and they have

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Speaker 2: Alvin Kamar is a great player, but they have good receivers,

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Speaker 2: they have good tight ends. Number seven, whether he's a fullback,

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Speaker 2: tight end, whatever you want to call him, quarterback, he's

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Speaker 2: a great player. Look at the first play of the

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Speaker 2: last game that got called back there for a penalty.

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Speaker 2: I mean he goes however many yards just catching the

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Speaker 2: they I don't want to short change the rest of

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Speaker 2: their players because they have talented players, but obviously forty

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Speaker 2: one's the focal points.

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Speaker 9: Brush Swarts says yesterday with Taysoon Hill.

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Speaker 10: Have you ever seen anyone transform a quarterback the way

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Speaker 10: that the Saints have with Tasam?

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Speaker 2: The only guy I can think of would be Joe Webb.

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Speaker 2: Anybody remember Joe Webb uab Blazer. We drafted Joe when

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Speaker 2: I was at the Vikings. He was a quarterback there

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Speaker 2: was a quarterback there. And then we moved him to

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Speaker 2: wide receiver, and then after rookie Minnie Camp had him

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Speaker 2: then put him in there on special teams and he

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Speaker 2: a special teams player, and then I think finished his

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Speaker 2: guy that really could do it all. So versatility is

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Speaker 2: great in this league when you can find guys that

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Speaker 2: Taysom Hill is he's the personal protector on punt and

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Speaker 2: he's a bona fide quarterback, and then he's the full

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Speaker 2: his ability to do everything but do it.

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Speaker 4: At a high level it's not like he's just lining

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Speaker 11: It all, like go full time receiver and then have

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Speaker 11: to go back to quarterback for a game.

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Speaker 2: I don't remember the I mean he was bouncing back

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Speaker 2: special teams and Joe realized he had to get a

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Speaker 2: new helmet because his quarterback helmet was getting knocked around

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Speaker 2: too much. There was too many didn't have provided enough patting.

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Speaker 2: But Joe's one of my favorite. If I can talk

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Speaker 2: the opportunity, one of my favorite teammates of all time

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Speaker 2: to be around. And it's funny because I think Jamis

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Speaker 2: facetimed him last spring in the quarterback meeting room. We're

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Speaker 2: all just catching up with him. But great, great player,

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Speaker 2: a great collegiate player, had some great moments for us

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Speaker 5: The one on the road is always a challenge in

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Speaker 5: this league. But how extra difficult is it going into

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Speaker 5: that place?

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Speaker 3: Specifically?

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Speaker 2: It's hard. I've been in there a few times. It's

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Speaker 2: very very loud. They do a great job with their

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Speaker 2: yet you have to be really good when you're on

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Speaker 2: communication in the huddle, at the line of scrimmage, on

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Speaker 12: I said a lot, But how have you seen him

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Speaker 12: really navigate the highs and leblows that come with.

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Speaker 3: A receiver, and especially being a young receiver.

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Speaker 4: In this league. I think he's done a nice job.

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Speaker 2: I think he's again young player that continues to get

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Speaker 2: better in our scheme, a guy that is with more opportunities,

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Speaker 2: you're seeing him make plays and that type of thing.

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Speaker 2: But the big thing with young players is to have

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Speaker 2: the mentality that they're going to continue to get better.

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Speaker 4: And I think said has that for sure.

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Speaker 2: So that's something that I know coach Osha, coach Brownson

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Speaker 10: Get was said after the Chargers game. He said that

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Speaker 10: were playing that way. How have you seen him kind

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Speaker 10: of adjust to account for those different coverages that he's

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Speaker 2: I think when you're playing, whether you're playing X or

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Speaker 2: gonna see from these defenses. Nowadays, and certainly this week,

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Speaker 2: you're gonna see a variety of coverages and what defenses

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Speaker 2: it may change post snap, So keying in on safeties

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Speaker 2: where they're rotating down, what the leverages from the corner,

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Speaker 2: what he lines up on me, and then when the

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Speaker 2: then he's bailing? Like all those type of things come

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Speaker 2: into play when you're playing receiver. And I think nowadays

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Speaker 2: defenses are really playing Rolodex coverages. They're playing so many

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Speaker 2: different things. I don't know how many teams are just

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Speaker 3: About early one.

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Speaker 12: You clarified Jed's comments, and also we heard from Jordan's

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Speaker 12: week just about the injuries that he dealt with and

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Speaker 12: how we didn't know the full story he was going

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Speaker 12: through but then he tried to kind of play through them.

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Speaker 12: How much do you guys help when those situations were

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Speaker 12: a player, you know they want to be out there,

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Speaker 12: but they also have to sort of balance that. They

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Speaker 12: have to sort of fight that battle between playing and

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Speaker 12: hurting the team but also wanting to be out there

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Speaker 2: I think that happens every single week. All these injuries

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Speaker 14: The last two games of Jerry's a guy that's also

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Speaker 13: He's made the most of his opportunities here in the

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Speaker 15: To set after the Chargers game, like you talked about

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Speaker 13: as we go along here, you know, do you all

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Speaker 3: We know how much a morgument to this team.

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Speaker 7: You talk so much about his leadership qualities that during

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Speaker 13: So we've done this as a collective group. There's not

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Speaker 9: And I think that's good.

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Speaker 13: And I've always thought of leadership is just go out

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Speaker 13: I feel like our group right now has taking the coaching.

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Speaker 13: They've worked extremely hard, They've worked to improve. That's what

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Speaker 6: What have you seen from Cadarius?

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Speaker 11: I know some type of squad and if he gets

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Speaker 13: It could be a certain specific route that we teach,

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Speaker 13: there's always a work in progress and a transition with

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Speaker 13: But he's worked hard, you know, on a daily basis,

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Speaker 5: How much different coverage wise does the Saints look last week?

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Speaker 5: Obviously Joe taking over with the defensive calls, plus you

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Speaker 3: For so many so long. Yeah, how different were they overall?

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Speaker 13: There's a lot of similarities, and you know, with Joe

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Speaker 3: How about Jamari? How is he doing behind the scenes

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Speaker 13: Really impressed with Jamari Thrash and how he's worked. I mean,

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Speaker 11: What do you you know, it feels like the season

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Speaker 6: How do you think he's handled the ups and downs?

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Speaker 3: So can you maybe just talk a little bit about

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm really proud of Jordan how he worked through

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Speaker 11: First of all, how's he doing. We haven't seen him yet.

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Speaker 16: He's good. We miss him, We love him.

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Speaker 11: With a guy like him that does so much for you,

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Speaker 9: From my skill set?

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Speaker 16: you don't replace it. But what you do is is

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Speaker 2: How difficult is a guy like Alvin Kamara for your

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Speaker 9: All that stuff.

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Speaker 16: And we got to be ahead of the motion rules

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Speaker 16: right now before I came in. We got to be

440
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Speaker 16: really good and on top of it, because one, they

441
00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 16: do a great job scheming him open and then of

442
00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:55,679
Speaker 16: course he can do anything.

443
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:57,640
Speaker 4: So we and we got to get.

444
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Speaker 16: As many of us near him as we can as

445
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 16: many times as we can.

446
00:21:02,320 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 5: Jason, as a position coach, when you see two guys

447
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 5: like my Mood and Winston, you know the past they

448
00:21:09,200 --> 00:21:13,200
Speaker 5: took are very similar is undrafted guys and you just see,

449
00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:16,000
Speaker 5: I mean, what type of pride do you personally take

450
00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:20,920
Speaker 5: to see guys take that ride that difficult path to

451
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 5: becoming regular you know, contributors on it.

452
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Speaker 16: Yeah, I'm smiling because it's just what we said. Our

453
00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 16: job is to help everybody get better, one play at

454
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,520
Speaker 16: a time, and every time I walk in here in

455
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 16: this building, that's all I care about. Who's ever in

456
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Speaker 16: the room, We're going to help them be the best

457
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,280
Speaker 16: they can be because each one of us, all we

458
00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 16: would ever want in life is see to be the

459
00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 16: best we can be and take advantage opportunities. I'm really

460
00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 16: proud of those guys and the rest of the room.

461
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,879
Speaker 16: I mean, Devin first year in the scheme and just

462
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 16: getting better playing every position. My mood you know, again,

463
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Speaker 16: I don't know how many career starts, but it's not

464
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:58,439
Speaker 16: very many. And just his ability to go focus and

465
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,400
Speaker 16: go to the next play. Winston, his ability to lock

466
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,399
Speaker 16: in and really limit mistakes. He really doesn't make the

467
00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,920
Speaker 16: same mistake. And if they can keep staying on that,

468
00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:10,000
Speaker 16: they're going to have really productive careers. But more importantly,

469
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 16: play each down that they're in to the best of

470
00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:13,200
Speaker 16: their ability.

471
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Speaker 6: How we see my mood get better in his year.

472
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 9: And a half.

473
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Speaker 16: He first thing my Mood did is the most important

474
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,719
Speaker 16: off season of your career is the first one, because

475
00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,400
Speaker 16: now you know, like, am I strong enough? We talked

476
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Speaker 16: a lot about this in the past with Jeremiah figuring

477
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 16: out his playing weight and holding it helped him become

478
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,960
Speaker 16: a really good player. My mood really took the off

479
00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,439
Speaker 16: season to hurt. He worked, he grinded, whatever the word is.

480
00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:45,800
Speaker 16: He did it right and came back strong and determined.

481
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:51,000
Speaker 16: Our meeting, I asked questions really fast, really quickly, and

482
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 16: we compete to get the answers right and the adjustments,

483
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 16: and he just got better and better better. It's hard

484
00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:57,200
Speaker 16: to beat my mood on the right answer right now.

485
00:22:57,600 --> 00:23:00,400
Speaker 16: So his work ethic on and off the field, and

486
00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,600
Speaker 16: then his ability to focus within the plays.

487
00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 4: I thought it's two weeks ago. Now, I almost said

488
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,720
Speaker 4: last week, two weeks ago.

489
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 16: He really improved in his emphasis for the week, which

490
00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 16: was the past game feel because he was going to

491
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 16: be in more on third downs and red zones and

492
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 16: things like that, and he really improved. So we'll give

493
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 16: him one thing a week and keep him going. But

494
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,680
Speaker 16: it's at first his work, second his focus, and then

495
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:25,160
Speaker 16: the experience of knowing where he.

496
00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:27,560
Speaker 4: Is in the defense on the field.

497
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,080
Speaker 16: I think my Mood really likes contact and likes to

498
00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 16: get off of blocks, shed things, and run and hit.

499
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:39,679
Speaker 16: But he has a unique skill set, which is one

500
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Speaker 16: of the reasons our organization really liked him and we

501
00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 16: were lucky to have recruited him and kept him. Is

502
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:50,880
Speaker 16: he can rush. He can really run, and it's where

503
00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,640
Speaker 16: the NFL is gone. It's almost linebackers and safeties are

504
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:56,000
Speaker 16: becoming positionless. They're all going to rush, they're all going

505
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 16: to cover, they're all going to shed. And so my

506
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 16: Mood can really do those things, and he'll do more

507
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,919
Speaker 16: of those things as he continues to develop and be

508
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 16: in those spots, so as we need him to go

509
00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 16: like it. So as you're as you're helping the the guys,

510
00:24:09,840 --> 00:24:13,360
Speaker 16: you want to kind of keep them in their core position,

511
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 16: but then lead them to the other spots they're gonna be.

512
00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 16: So we're doing some things where he's still in his core,

513
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 16: but there's a few other things we can start.

514
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 6: Doing with him along those lines.

515
00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,640
Speaker 7: You mentioned that I put them through some different quick

516
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 7: questions and tests and kind of make them identify things

517
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 7: like how much did that help him when I believe

518
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:31,320
Speaker 7: he took over. There's the green dot for a couple

519
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 7: of games there, just how much did that kind of

520
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 7: help him kind of be that guy calling things out

521
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,240
Speaker 7: and sort of identifying.

522
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Speaker 16: Huge because it's that quick reaction, like I got to

523
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 16: look at the room and then all of a sudden,

524
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,359
Speaker 16: they have let's say they got an extra alignment at

525
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Speaker 16: a tight end and that's where.

526
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Speaker 4: We're set in the front.

527
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Speaker 16: I got to see the whole thing go right right

528
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,840
Speaker 16: then get everybody aligned and put myself in the right spot.

529
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,439
Speaker 16: So the quick reactions are the key. So we just

530
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 16: got to mimic that as many times as we can.

531
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Speaker 4: Like today, for.

532
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Speaker 16: Example, I give him a review and they there's the

533
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 16: drawing play runner a pass, and then there's the calls

534
00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 16: and they have to teach it back to me tomorrow.

535
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 16: And my moods have gone from it's been really cool,

536
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 16: and some of the guys in the past have just

537
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 16: mastered it. Anthony SIONI, Devin's really good. But they have

538
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 16: to be able to teach it back because we're professional's

539
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,399
Speaker 16: gonna be able to teach what we do. My mood

540
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,439
Speaker 16: is like when he gets his answer, he doesn't even

541
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,919
Speaker 16: miss a word anymore. So mood, you better be right tomorrow.

542
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 16: By the way, but that but that's all in the

543
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,160
Speaker 16: plan of that, and it's really cool to see the

544
00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 16: grasp when they really grow and they really understand it.

545
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:34,640
Speaker 16: And then every once in a while I'll put something

546
00:25:34,680 --> 00:25:36,920
Speaker 16: wrong on there and see if they catch it okay,

547
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:39,239
Speaker 16: and Mood's caught the last two or I may if

548
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,560
Speaker 16: I misspeak, they're all over me and I like that,

549
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 16: like there you go, maybe get it right right, So

550
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:47,919
Speaker 16: just hit how willing he's been to stay in the

551
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,160
Speaker 16: process to build himself into a player has been really impressive.

552
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 3: Half of your guys handled the adversity of this two

553
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 3: and seventh season.

554
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 16: We think about what we think about as being the

555
00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:01,919
Speaker 16: best we can every play. And what's been interesting in

556
00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,159
Speaker 16: our room is when you know, coaches always said and

557
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 16: is next man up. Our rooms had different starters almost

558
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,720
Speaker 16: every game. So we're just going in and attacking every

559
00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 16: week and that's it. And and this week we talked

560
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 16: a little bit about it. There they're they're getting a

561
00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 16: bunch of formations, they change groups, they use all their personnel.

562
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,680
Speaker 16: They got tight ends and running backs and people everywhere,

563
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 16: and we got to be able to get everybody lined up,

564
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:27,640
Speaker 16: be that nerve, center and line everybody up. So really

565
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 16: we're not even thinking about that. We're thinking about on

566
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,840
Speaker 16: play one, is number seven in or not? Or you

567
00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 16: know what are our rules right here? So we don't

568
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Speaker 16: even we stay in that, I mean whatever you want

569
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,480
Speaker 16: to call that, our little neighborhood. We're in there because

570
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,000
Speaker 16: we got to figure that out to be the best

571
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 16: we can be this weekend.

572
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:50,600
Speaker 3: How much does you mentioned number seven, I'm Taysom Hill.

573
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Speaker 5: Just what how much does he dictate yea, in terms

574
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 5: of what they when he's in How how much do

575
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,040
Speaker 5: they does he sort of dictate what they're what they're doing.

576
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 5: How much can you get a read off of what

577
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 5: they're going to do from him being in.

578
00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 16: The well, he's you know, he's a Swiss army knife.

579
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,040
Speaker 16: You can use him to do anything. So and we

580
00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,840
Speaker 16: know that too. He can be carrying it, he can

581
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 16: be catching it, he can be whatever. He can be

582
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:18,440
Speaker 16: moving across formations. Like the first play of the game

583
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 16: last week, it got called back, but they they put

584
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 16: him out wider through him a boot and you know

585
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 16: it got called back, but he scored.

586
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,359
Speaker 4: So he can kind of be everywhere. So what we

587
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 4: got to do is use our rules.

588
00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,359
Speaker 16: We've got to use our rules on the formations and

589
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,680
Speaker 16: if he's in certain positions backfield or whatever, we got

590
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 16: to be correct on our alignments so that we can

591
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:37,280
Speaker 16: handle whatever they do.

592
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 15: Jason Winston, I mean, I know even that one game

593
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 15: they're using him on offense and those trumbo packages, Like

594
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 15: how has he just embraced unconventional.

595
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 6: Opportunities like that?

596
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 16: I think it's great. I think the positionless football is amazing.

597
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 16: Like if if you see one of the young men

598
00:27:57,119 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 16: on the roster and they have a skill set to

599
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 16: do something like offense, defense especially, it's all the same

600
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 16: as football, you know, with the linebackers, Like we talk

601
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 16: about three words. Linebackers play special teams. It's what we do.

602
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 16: Like it's defense, let's go, and then sometimes it's offense.

603
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080
Speaker 16: We get the block. So the more wins thing can do,

604
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 16: the better We're happy. I'm excited for him.

605
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 6: We're talking about Hill.

606
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 11: Is there anybody in the league that even comes close

607
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:26,199
Speaker 11: to kind of that skill set and the versatility that

608
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:26,760
Speaker 11: he provides.

609
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:31,640
Speaker 16: I don't, I don't know. I again, I'm going going,

610
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 16: I'm going in my neighborhood. I think I think now

611
00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 16: we don't we don't really compare we just gotta we

612
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 16: gotta be ready for the opponents to go one to

613
00:28:41,680 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 16: know each week, we just know the things he can do,

614
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 16: and there's so multiple that there's other things he can

615
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 16: do if he's in the other positions, and then we

616
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:48,720
Speaker 16: got to use our.

617
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:49,360
Speaker 4: Rules to deal with that.

618
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 16: So, I mean, I know, I'm that's a narrow answer,

619
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 16: but that is our answer because that's how we have

620
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,920
Speaker 16: to deal with it. That's how we got to go

621
00:28:55,960 --> 00:28:58,480
Speaker 16: play in and play out and and be able to

622
00:28:58,520 --> 00:28:59,760
Speaker 16: attack this weekend.

623
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 5: Check from San Francisco. Effort is the fullback for San

624
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 5: Francisco Effort. As a comp, would would that be I mean,

625
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 5: you played them a year ago? Would that be a

626
00:29:09,800 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 5: fair comp for Tasom Hill?

627
00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 9: I think.

628
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 16: I think the offensive systems that have grown throughout the

629
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 16: league have guys like that team or this team that

630
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:26,640
Speaker 16: all can kind of do the same thing. So they're

631
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 16: in the schemes the offensive coordinators can use them to

632
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:34,040
Speaker 16: do that. So I mean comps, I'm not big comparison,

633
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 16: but similar schemes. Yeah, We're going to study so we

634
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 16: know what may be done within, you know, in a game,

635
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 16: and make sure our rules can handle that so that

636
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 16: that system is moving more into the league, more people

637
00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:52,960
Speaker 16: are seeing it. The people from the system are going

638
00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 16: to different teams, so now you know, oh yeah, they

639
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 16: may use him like this, or we may get this

640
00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,560
Speaker 16: kind of motion, or he may motion over here on

641
00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 16: the screen, whatever it is. So we're constantly studying that

642
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 16: more than because because you don't know who's gonna be

643
00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 16: active every week, if that makes sense.

644
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 8: Cool, just through his just battle to get back on

645
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,479
Speaker 8: the field, and it's clear that his dedication to get

646
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 8: back on the field is really strongest. What do you

647
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 8: think his influence on many younger guys like my Mood

648
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 8: and Winston has been this season.

649
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,680
Speaker 16: Well, I think Jordan's the same every day. And that's

650
00:30:22,720 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 16: the ultimate compliment when you're in that, when you've seen

651
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 16: as many things in life and in football as Jordan has,

652
00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:31,440
Speaker 16: you can't help but be drawn to him because all

653
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:36,680
Speaker 16: he cares about is making plays, being great himself making

654
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 16: plays and helping his teammate make plays, and being a

655
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,160
Speaker 16: great dad. You can't be more proud of that, and

656
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 16: you want to be around that. So just his presence,

657
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 16: just being around him, you feel that, and that is

658
00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 16: that's really unique, and it's really awesome and I hadn't

659
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,200
Speaker 16: coached him before, right, but a lot of people that

660
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 16: I know had coached him, and just they all texted

661
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 16: or called right away, Oh, you're gonna love Jordan.

662
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,560
Speaker 4: He's the best, and they're right.

663
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:04,200
Speaker 1: Finally, Defensive Player of the Year Miles Garrett provided a

664
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 1: simple message, find a way to win.

665
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 11: If you could put a number on it, how much

666
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,480
Speaker 11: healthier are you now than you were saying.

667
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 9: Eight sifteen, man, I would say, like from a six

668
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 9: to like six to like an eight.

669
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 3: Six tough wasn't to play for Sis.

670
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 17: It wouldn't consistent six like it was up and down.

671
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 17: But it was definitely tough, just because it was so

672
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 17: h inconsistent. You know, from play to play, from day

673
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 17: to day we're dealing with you know, something or another.

674
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:46,200
Speaker 17: So got him over the hill for the most part,

675
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 17: and it can start for playing some uh some good football.

676
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 17: That absolutely I want to make plays for my team.

677
00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 9: I want to win games.

678
00:31:58,280 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 17: And I know that if I'm going out there and

679
00:31:59,920 --> 00:32:04,360
Speaker 17: I'm feeling just good, I'm feeling at least like myself,

680
00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 17: I can go out there and be a game changer

681
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 17: for us as the team. So I want to get

682
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 17: back to that. So those four games. You know, it's

683
00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 17: disrupt as it was. You know, blacker kicks are making TFLs.

684
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 17: I wanted to get the ball out, want to get

685
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:18,480
Speaker 17: those strip sacks and set them back.

686
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 8: Maybe this is.

687
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: Silly brows, but if you ever had a stretch like

688
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 6: the one you had against the Chargers.

689
00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 17: Three sacks, Yeah, where is that? I think it was

690
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,600
Speaker 17: one time, two times in college and one time and

691
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 17: high school at nine sacks in high school in one game,

692
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:44,880
Speaker 17: and then think Nevada and maybe Ugsa.

693
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,280
Speaker 9: I know Nevada for sure, but yeah, I've had some

694
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 9: stretches like that.

695
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 6: It's a little different.

696
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:52,400
Speaker 9: For sure.

697
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 17: In college are like, shoot, you know, we'll just keep

698
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 17: on singling them, well, we'll tip them.

699
00:32:58,280 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 9: A little bit.

700
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 17: And opposed like you know, for the most the entire game,

701
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 17: they're like, no, we're not gonna let you get that opportunity.

702
00:33:05,080 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 17: But they they had a lot of confidence in their

703
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 17: their tackles, uh for good reason, and just took advantage

704
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 17: of those, uh, those opportunities.

705
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:16,200
Speaker 3: It's similar to like.

706
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:24,239
Speaker 17: You said, yeah, very similar, and you get those one

707
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 17: on one and sometimes you know it's not quite clicking

708
00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 17: and it's not quite there, and you know at that moment,

709
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 17: I was just ready to see that. I was feeling

710
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 17: feeling good really early. So when those when those opportunities

711
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 17: came and kind of just lined up.

712
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:45,960
Speaker 4: You can see similar.

713
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 9: Those.

714
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 17: It an amaze me, I must say, it amazes me.

715
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 17: You have uh, I want to say a lot if

716
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 17: you have a solid amount of really good tackles for

717
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,840
Speaker 17: athletic and great with.

718
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 9: Their hands, good feet, and uh can can do a

719
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 9: great job.

720
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:08,200
Speaker 17: Most guys in the league, and I feel like there

721
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 17: are some outliers on on defense and outliers on offense,

722
00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:13,799
Speaker 17: and uh, I feel like I'm I'm one of those.

723
00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 9: So now I know I'll get a.

724
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 17: Little bit less, you know, singles thing know most other guys,

725
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,319
Speaker 17: but know when I do, I'm gonna make the most

726
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 17: of it, honestly like that.

727
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 3: But you're here, not just your teams, but maybe some

728
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,280
Speaker 3: of your your colleagues. Somehow the league, when when they're.

729
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,799
Speaker 17: Watching through, a couple of them thought I was gonna

730
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,800
Speaker 17: break the record, So UH gotta live up to that

731
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:37,359
Speaker 17: next time.

732
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,319
Speaker 9: You know, I gotta keep that going for the whole game.

733
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 17: But after after that a little stretch, they they made

734
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:43,919
Speaker 17: sure to go back to the status QUD now.

735
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 9: Try to take me out talk you was traded, said good.

736
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:50,920
Speaker 6: I think this is the first time we talked to

737
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 6: you since the race was traded to Detroit.

738
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 18: Just what type of impact does that have on you

739
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:59,800
Speaker 18: and what are your thoughts on you know, like Isaiah

740
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 18: and so many other guys, who are you be asked

741
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:02,480
Speaker 18: to kind.

742
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 6: Of try to fill that role?

743
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,080
Speaker 17: Well, first, I like to say, I've never seen a

744
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 17: man smile so much going to a diver place.

745
00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 9: My man was a teasing from year to year when

746
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 9: he was on TV.

747
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 17: But you know, happy to see him, uh, you know,

748
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 17: feeling good, feeling like himself and uh being positive as

749
00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 17: far as you know, the guys we have here right

750
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 17: have a lot of confidence. You know, he could uh

751
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 17: and say he has been studying behind us Obo and

752
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,359
Speaker 17: watching us in and developing on his own and and uh,

753
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 17: you know I'm coming into his own. So you know,

754
00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,800
Speaker 17: we're we're glad to see on him out there and

755
00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 17: then you know, getting those chances to developing to the

756
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,239
Speaker 17: player we know he can. And you know Obo's you know,

757
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 17: he's been consistent since he's been here, and he's been

758
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 17: a he's been a threat, and he's been that he'd

759
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 17: been that sixth man really off the bench, and uh

760
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 17: now he's really gonna get a opportunity to show what

761
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 17: he can really do with a on a more consistent basis.

762
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,040
Speaker 3: Kathm just told us that.

763
00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:58,960
Speaker 16: Mike Hall suffer significant knee injury yesterday your.

764
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,000
Speaker 15: Parents and that he might lay my er.

765
00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 3: So just wondering, you know, how does sing is it

766
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:06,280
Speaker 3: to see.

767
00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 17: Him go down like that and how well to see

768
00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 17: you get I mean it's tough, you know, he's it's

769
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,920
Speaker 17: it's been a uh rough year friend and uh interesting.

770
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 17: We want to see him keep his head up and

771
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,040
Speaker 17: be positive throughout all of it. Use had time to

772
00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 17: develop as a like a person, as a man, and

773
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 17: uh as a player, knowing that you know, these these

774
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 17: kind of things do happen, happen to are the greatest

775
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 17: of players. But you have to continue to remand on

776
00:36:32,200 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 17: your path to be a head up and and keep

777
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:36,040
Speaker 17: working and you know it'll it'll work out and I'll figure.

778
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 9: Itself out for you.

779
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 3: Miles.

780
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 15: Just when those two guys out much because it already

781
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 15: lost Alex right where then you're like, how do you

782
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 15: feel You're probably about the devil you're that you have on.

783
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,279
Speaker 6: The D line.

784
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 15: Knowing Jim likes to spell your guys.

785
00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 17: And rotators so much, well, I know he he likes to.

786
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:54,359
Speaker 17: But you know, at this point, you know, we gotta

787
00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:57,520
Speaker 17: gotta go with h the devil, you know. And you know,

788
00:36:57,600 --> 00:36:59,719
Speaker 17: if I gotta stand for for long stretches, that's fine

789
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 17: by me. Let me go and improved my cardio or

790
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 17: or know to be prepared to play more stamps. I

791
00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,439
Speaker 17: do what I gotta do. But you know, we gotta,

792
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 17: we gotta find a way to win. How much of a.

793
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 18: Headache does Alvin Lamar present to you guys, and how

794
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,719
Speaker 18: he you know, Jim Schwartzman's from yesterday, he's he's kind

795
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,640
Speaker 18: of in a little bit of hold the league of

796
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 18: his own in the fact that you know he's catching

797
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:23,799
Speaker 18: out of the backfield as.

798
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 4: Well as he's running.

799
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 17: I want to say he's league in his own, any

800
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 17: league of his own in that in that department, because

801
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 17: we got a c mat and both of those guys

802
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 17: are are similar in their roles, being so integral to

803
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 17: their offenses and being just very dynamic. So I think

804
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 17: he's a very special player that I won't take that

805
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,719
Speaker 17: away from him. No, we just gotta be aware of

806
00:37:44,800 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 17: him or he's at you at all times. He can

807
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 17: run the ball, can throw the ball, can catch the ball,

808
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 17: He can do pretty much anything on off the side,

809
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 17: So someone has to be accounted for him every time

810
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 17: he steps on the field.

811
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 11: With the like teasing Hill, he just feels so much

812
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 11: different than pretty much everybody else in the League's at

813
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 11: how you view him and when he's back there, do

814
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 11: you still look at him.

815
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:04,400
Speaker 9: As a quarterback?

816
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,400
Speaker 17: No, he's whatever he chooses to do. Fullback, tight end,

817
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 17: wide receiver, quarterback. I mean, man, he's also very dynamic.

818
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 17: You know it looks different, but he he can he

819
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 17: can play just about any position on the field.

820
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 9: So I have to be aware of him. He's gonna

821
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:22,760
Speaker 9: be physical.

822
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 17: He he's uh, he's crafty, he's he's smart and uh

823
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 17: he's he's more athletic than then uh you give him

824
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:31,960
Speaker 17: credit for. But you know, he can, he can move

825
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 17: and he he's strong, so you know they're they're not

826
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 17: afraid to line him up, you know, facing a d

827
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,239
Speaker 17: N or you know, running through through the gap and

828
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360
Speaker 17: and and trying to bowl over a middle linebacker.

829
00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:43,719
Speaker 9: So he's gotta gotta be prepared.

830
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: At Uh, your former team name to Eric mcoys schools

831
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 5: to get what does he do to help the bolts

832
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 5: are there, you know, improve their offers line up across?

833
00:38:55,800 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 9: Well, he's really damn good. That's that helps. I mean

834
00:38:58,960 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 9: he's he's smart.

835
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,640
Speaker 17: Uh, he's consistent and uh, you know, he's he's focal

836
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 17: with his communication and he makes it a lot easier

837
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:06,759
Speaker 17: for the guys around him.

838
00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 12: Why, as you talked about how you're feeling, you ever

839
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 12: pretty candid about it just the injury you could deal with.

840
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 6: The season in general.

841
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:16,319
Speaker 7: Is it something where those kind of like the feet

842
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 7: injuries specially kind yield itself.

843
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 6: A little bit, or is it something you might still

844
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 6: have to address this off season.

845
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 9: Better?

846
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 17: Both know things are getting better, but still something too

847
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:29,359
Speaker 17: addressed in the off season. So I'm not looking too

848
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 17: far into the uh the future with all that. You know,

849
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,400
Speaker 17: we gotta got a game kind of here soon. But

850
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 17: you know that is you know further down the bill.

851
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,319
Speaker 12: Did you by a week kind of getting off your

852
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 12: feet a little bit or you without process.

853
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:40,799
Speaker 13: A little bit more?

854
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,840
Speaker 17: Definitely, you know, taking some time off, using it for

855
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 17: recovery and uh, you know, just just being away for

856
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 17: a little bit. It definitely helps a little bit.

857
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:50,760
Speaker 4: Oh that's good.

858
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:58,560
Speaker 3: Show's Steve see steps, you know pretty show when he

859
00:39:58,719 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 3: this year?

860
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 5: When what can you expect?

861
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 16: How could you expect?

862
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 9: Joe?

863
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:07,919
Speaker 6: Your thoughts?

864
00:40:09,120 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 17: I mean, I don't know how a lot of things

865
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,960
Speaker 17: down there, so I can't really speak on you know,

866
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 17: what they should expect. But uh, I know who'll have

867
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 17: this guy's order to play, and uh, you know they'll

868
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 17: be very very informed on what we do well and

869
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 17: and uh what they can attack.

870
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 9: So it'll just be spend the p's and q's and

871
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 9: and uh, don't be surprised by anything.

872
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 11: When you were just talking about the lack of turnovers,

873
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 11: the takeaways that the defense is graded, especially interceptions, he

874
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 11: also said this not only is secondary, the pressure rate

875
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,960
Speaker 11: is better and you forced guys into mistakes, so quarterbacks

876
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 11: at mistakes. So do you take you guys, just a group,

877
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 11: take some of the responsibility for be the lack of

878
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,600
Speaker 11: interception you get, well.

879
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 17: I mean, I think we're pretty damn good up front,

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Speaker 17: but you know, if he wants takeaways, we can get

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Speaker 17: him in other ways. So I mean, if I got

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Speaker 17: to start dropping back and catch and picks myself, I

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Speaker 17: we'll figure it out.

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Speaker 9: But I'm gonna start taking the ball away.

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Speaker 6: How much have you in the cast treat?

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Speaker 17: I mean, I haven't seen anyone get stop M yet,

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Speaker 17: so I think as long as they wanted to.

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