WEBVTT - How Men Think with Kristoffer Polaha

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<v Speaker 1>We're taking you inside the mind of a man. This

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<v Speaker 1>is How Men Thick and I Heard radio podcast. Hi everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Christopher Palaha. You may know me from Lifetime, is

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<v Speaker 1>Buried in Barstow, or Hallmark Christmas Movies, Life, Unexpected, Ringer,

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<v Speaker 1>North Shore, Wonder Woman, The Upcoming Draftic World Dominion, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am so happy to be guest hosting How Men

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<v Speaker 1>Think and answer all your questions and trying to help

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<v Speaker 1>you understand how men think. But first, this is eleven

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<v Speaker 1>Questions with Christopher Palaha. Let's get into it. One. What

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<v Speaker 1>are you known for? Tell us about yourself. Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>think I'm known for I'm obviously I'm an actor, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think I'm known for being an actor. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think more than that, I'm known for being a kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a family man. I'm married. My wife and I

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<v Speaker 1>have been married for nineteen years. Going. Uh, actually we're

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<v Speaker 1>celebrating our nineteenth anniversary this week, and we have three beautiful,

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<v Speaker 1>healthy boys who are now men basically. Um. But but

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<v Speaker 1>aside from that producing a family, I've been I've been

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<v Speaker 1>making TV shows and movies for the past twenty one years.

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<v Speaker 1>I just got into directing so I can call myself

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<v Speaker 1>a filmmaker. So that's kind of a bit about myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So who are you in your personal life? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>Who I am in my personal life is very similar

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<v Speaker 1>to who I am in my public life. Um. I

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<v Speaker 1>am pretty patient person. I would have to call myself

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<v Speaker 1>a kind person. I'm a person who's pretty slow to anger.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't really lose my cool. Um, I do have

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<v Speaker 1>different hats that I have to wear. Like as an actor,

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<v Speaker 1>I I live in a world where, uh, I am

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<v Speaker 1>a celebrity to some people, and I get, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>lifted up into the stratosphere of social sort of significance

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<v Speaker 1>that that my job affords me, but that I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do anything about personally. So I think in the sense

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<v Speaker 1>that there's an exterior you know, sort of in the

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<v Speaker 1>market place life where I'm in the public space and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm moving about and then I get to just lose

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<v Speaker 1>all that energy when I'm home with my wife and kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So there's a bit of a dichotomy. There three

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<v Speaker 1>shows that I'm currently binge watching. All right, my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I like to at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 1>kids are in bed, homework has done, all the house

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<v Speaker 1>chores are finished. We get to we get about an

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<v Speaker 1>hour and a half every night. UM, on a really

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<v Speaker 1>good day for her, I will rub her feet and

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<v Speaker 1>we will watch shows. We've Bnged Dope Sick, which is

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<v Speaker 1>incredible starring Michael Keaton, We Crashed and Half Away and

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<v Speaker 1>Jared Leto and Drop Out with Amanda Secrety. Those are

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<v Speaker 1>things that Those are literally the last three shows that

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<v Speaker 1>we've just been watched. UM alright, Question number four, what

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<v Speaker 1>is my favorite food? You know what, I used to

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<v Speaker 1>be fancy about my favorite foods, but I gotta be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you. My favorite food is a good old

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<v Speaker 1>fashioned cheeseburger. I like cheeseburger from shake Shack. I like

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<v Speaker 1>the cheeseburger from a place called Laurel tavern in the valley.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just in France and I asked for

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<v Speaker 1>cheeseburgers and people made fun of me, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>the They were the best cheeseburgers I've ever had in

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Like the meat was so tasty and good.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think cheeseburgers to safe bet. Anywhere you go,

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<v Speaker 1>you get a good one. Number five, tell us about

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<v Speaker 1>your career. When my career is been really blessed and good.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had twenty one years of affording my life by

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<v Speaker 1>only acting. I've only ever been an actor. I've never

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<v Speaker 1>had to do other jobs to make it, so in

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<v Speaker 1>that way, it's been really blessed. And I've also been

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of actor where I can go to the

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<v Speaker 1>growth True store and shop with my kids and not

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<v Speaker 1>be bombarded. I've been with some people who, Um, I

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<v Speaker 1>worked with a guy who was really famous, and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>we went, i mean we're talking like the hot We're

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<v Speaker 1>talking the you know, anywhere we went, like anywhere everywhere,

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<v Speaker 1>people were like, Hey, you're so and so from that

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<v Speaker 1>so and so thing. And I asked him when I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, how does that feel like when you're with

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<v Speaker 1>your family? And he's like, oh, it's crazy, man. He's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm always kind of having the And I've watched intense

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<v Speaker 1>scrutiny that that fame brings, and um, I've been saved

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<v Speaker 1>from that at least all my kids have been young.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've had this really cool thing where I've

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<v Speaker 1>been able to be a father, able to be a husband,

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<v Speaker 1>able to be a provider, and still have probably one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best jobs in the world, which is, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>pretending to be other people and entertaining people and getting

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<v Speaker 1>to make people laugh and cry. My career has included

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<v Speaker 1>television and film, and recently, UM, I got into co

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<v Speaker 1>writing a romance series called Moments Like It's called from

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<v Speaker 1>ConA with Love. But um their books and the first

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<v Speaker 1>one which has been published and is out and available

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<v Speaker 1>right now, it's called Moments Like This. And the second

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<v Speaker 1>book will be available at Barnes and Nobles and everywhere

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<v Speaker 1>the books are sold October eleventh. That's called Where's Roses?

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<v Speaker 1>And we're gonna write three more in the series, so

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be a total of five books. And these are romance.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the romance. There's a family saga that all

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<v Speaker 1>takes place on the Hawaiian Islands, so each book is

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<v Speaker 1>a different island. And we're turning the first book into

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<v Speaker 1>a movie. Um yeah, And I just recently got into directing.

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<v Speaker 1>I did a short film called The Work of Art

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<v Speaker 1>that was just screened to canned film festivals. So exciting,

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<v Speaker 1>fun stuff. Um. Number six, what is my biggest fear

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<v Speaker 1>in life? Oh? What is my biggest fear? Man? It's

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<v Speaker 1>not it's losing people. It's it's the death of people

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<v Speaker 1>that I love. That's my biggest fear. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to describe that fear for you is that, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was a boy, I would weep hot tears

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<v Speaker 1>every time my mom or my dad left, whether they

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<v Speaker 1>dropped me off at Little League or they bringing home

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<v Speaker 1>from school and they had to run an errand real quick,

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<v Speaker 1>I would start to cry because I was terrified and

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<v Speaker 1>convinced that they were going to die in a terrible

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<v Speaker 1>carrect and then that was it. And the only way

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<v Speaker 1>that I was able to overcome that was to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>in my mind, visualize, well what next. Okay, so they

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<v Speaker 1>die and then what happens, and then what happens, and

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<v Speaker 1>then what happens, and see their death all the way

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<v Speaker 1>through um to the end. And I think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be I think my biggest fear. And then the problem

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<v Speaker 1>with that fear is, unlike the fear of spiders or

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<v Speaker 1>heights or sharks or inevitably, it's going to come to

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<v Speaker 1>pass for me on every level. So that's I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's a it's a constant awareness of that. Um. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>number seven, what is my biggest pet peve? My biggest

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<v Speaker 1>pet peeves probably rude people market, you know, like at

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<v Speaker 1>the grocery store people who cut you off in traffic.

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<v Speaker 1>We take some minutes to recalibrate and not get angry. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>What makes me most happy? My wife and my kids

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<v Speaker 1>make me most happy just being able to hear them laugh,

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<v Speaker 1>be around them. You know that's always the best any

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<v Speaker 1>time with them. What is your idea Saturday morning? Well

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<v Speaker 1>goes back to number eight. Most happy? Uh, my wife

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<v Speaker 1>and I'll be sleeping and our kids will just dogpile

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<v Speaker 1>us and we'll all just be laying in bed in

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<v Speaker 1>that moment where there's nothing to do and you don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to get up. There's no there's no school to

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<v Speaker 1>drive anyone to, no work to do, and it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a perfect Saturday morning. Number ten, Are you more of

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete for the armchair quarterback? I'm like more of

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<v Speaker 1>the athlete. I like to run a lot. I'm very active.

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<v Speaker 1>I ski. Um Like every time I go to a

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<v Speaker 1>new city, the best way around it is to job

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<v Speaker 1>early in the morning. Um. So I think the athlete

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<v Speaker 1>And then what keeps you elevated? Um? I have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of goals that I've set for myself, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like until I can meet those, uh, that keeps

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<v Speaker 1>me motivated. There's stories that I want to tell. There

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<v Speaker 1>are things I want to accomplish as an artist. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>there are things I want to accomplish, you know, financially,

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<v Speaker 1>and I want to see my kids, you know, go

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<v Speaker 1>up and grow up and do well. And so those

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<v Speaker 1>things keep me motivated. Hi, Eli, Hi, how are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm great? How are you doing the day? Very well?

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you good. Do you have a question about how

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<v Speaker 1>men think? Well, I'm single, I'm trying to get out

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<v Speaker 1>there in real life and rather than relate relying on

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<v Speaker 1>dating apps. Do you think it's strange to me a

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<v Speaker 1>girl out a loan or a bar? I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it depends on the bar. I think it depends

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<v Speaker 1>on the night. I think it depends on the time

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<v Speaker 1>and night. Um. I think there's a lot of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>things you got to weigh into that question. But no,

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<v Speaker 1>I think a bar is a social It's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a town. It's a public meeting place. It's where people

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<v Speaker 1>go to, you know, to have a drink and to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to other human beings. I think that's what bars

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<v Speaker 1>were designed for. You know. I'm I'm I'm of a

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<v Speaker 1>certain age. I'm forty five, and so the whole thing

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<v Speaker 1>of meeting people online was always in an anthema to me,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I never thought about using the internet to meet anybody.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a whole generation of people where that's the normal,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, status quote. But it used to be you

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<v Speaker 1>had to go to church, you meet single people at church.

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<v Speaker 1>You went to a bar and you single, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or you go jogging or any public place. So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's weird at all. Okay, I just didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know if that looks kind of tacky. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's not too many routes unless you're going to go

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<v Speaker 1>on online dating, which I was trying to avoid. So

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate these. Thank you. I mean, I think if

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<v Speaker 1>you sip, if you sit modestly throughout the course of

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<v Speaker 1>the evening, you know, if you're like ten drinks in,

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<v Speaker 1>it might be a little uh might say something about

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<v Speaker 1>it fair enough? Thank you? Hi, Amy, How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing good? How are you doing great? Thank you?

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<v Speaker 1>So what's your question? Okay, So my boyfriend and I

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<v Speaker 1>decided to abstain before marriage, and we've had this agreement

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<v Speaker 1>for about five years. But lately I've had a change

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<v Speaker 1>of heart and I'm just wondering if maybe we need

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<v Speaker 1>to see where a good fit before we get married.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know how to bring this up to him. Wow, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, let's unpack the fact that it's been five years.

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<v Speaker 1>That's a long time. Um, are you guys engaged to

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<v Speaker 1>be married? Are you gonna get married? Are you? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're engaged. We're waiting, So it's we're not going to

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<v Speaker 1>marry in the next month. You know, we're planning, so right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, my first gut instinct is to say, you've

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<v Speaker 1>waited this long? You know, there's something like I think. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>first off, are you have you abstained? Are both of

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<v Speaker 1>you virgins? Have you both substained your whole lives? Or

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<v Speaker 1>were you guys active prior to dating and then made

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<v Speaker 1>a choice after you started dating to sort of abstain?

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<v Speaker 1>Like where did the choice for purity come in? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>So not in my younger, younger years, but um, we

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<v Speaker 1>both converted and we decided that we were going to abstain. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I think it's a really interesting conversation. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that if you are, like, for example, if you're

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<v Speaker 1>a Christian and you've made the decision to substain for

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<v Speaker 1>religious purposes. It's because you're in a relationship with God

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<v Speaker 1>inasmuch as you in a relationship with this other person

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<v Speaker 1>and you want God to have you know, you want

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<v Speaker 1>your relationship to you know, you want to have purity

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<v Speaker 1>in that, you want to have favor in that you

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to You want to be doing the things that

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<v Speaker 1>are that are right according to your faith, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that you can do things that are right according to

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<v Speaker 1>the to the faith within that relationship. Um. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for example, my wife and I waited. She was a

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<v Speaker 1>virgin before we got married. I was not um but

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<v Speaker 1>when I met her, I made the decision to wait

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<v Speaker 1>with her. UM. And in a weird way, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in God and when you like, I imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys are did you convert to Christianity? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that what you guys converted into? Okay? So, like when

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<v Speaker 1>you believe in the Christian narrative, all of a sudden

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<v Speaker 1>you believe that God really does have a personal interest

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<v Speaker 1>in all aspects of your life, and he cares about

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<v Speaker 1>your your sex, he cares about your health, he cares

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<v Speaker 1>about your relationships. And that's in in a relationship to Him,

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<v Speaker 1>to God, but also to each other scifically when you

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<v Speaker 1>bring Jesus into the conversation and how he loved people

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<v Speaker 1>and how we're supposed to love people like him. So

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I think that since you've waited, and

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<v Speaker 1>since your intentions are to get married, I would just

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<v Speaker 1>keep waiting, even though that's this idea of is he

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a good fit or not, because having

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<v Speaker 1>been somebody who didn't wait, Like I had a girlfriend

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<v Speaker 1>and we weren't awesome on the front end, but you

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<v Speaker 1>learned a kind of you learn to work with each

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<v Speaker 1>other and you know, like chemistry build chemistry, like there

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<v Speaker 1>isn't really a bad fit. And I think and I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's kind of where you know, you you walk

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<v Speaker 1>in faith and you say, you know, Lord of really

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for this person and hopefully your your sex life

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<v Speaker 1>is blessed. And I think that's a part of being

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<v Speaker 1>in a healthy marriage is you know, like figuring out

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<v Speaker 1>what that relationships looks like and and how often do

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<v Speaker 1>you do it? And and there's something about we live

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<v Speaker 1>in a world that's very very um it's not it's

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<v Speaker 1>not that it's confusing. It's confusing if you're a Christian

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<v Speaker 1>because you're looking around the landscape. You're going like wow,

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<v Speaker 1>like everything is wide open, but there's this God put

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<v Speaker 1>stop signs for humans because if you blast through the

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<v Speaker 1>stop signs and you start speeding, you could just get dangerous.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's dangerous for your heart, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think if you if you slow down

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit and you take it how it was

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<v Speaker 1>meant to be designed, which is it's I believe that

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<v Speaker 1>sex is like a taste of heaven. I believe it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's intensely pleasurable, and God wanted us to be

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<v Speaker 1>designed that way, you know what I mean, so that

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<v Speaker 1>we can have this incredible experience while we're here on

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<v Speaker 1>earth before we die. And then and then you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if it's between a man and a woman, then you

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<v Speaker 1>get to make a baby hopefully, and you can start

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<v Speaker 1>your family. And there's all sorts of things that come

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<v Speaker 1>out of it. Um when we have sex just out

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<v Speaker 1>of sheer, you know, for sheer pleasure. I think what

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<v Speaker 1>you'll find ultimately, regardless of whether or not you ascribe

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<v Speaker 1>to the Christian narrative, if you're just a person, it's

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<v Speaker 1>like a drug. We burned through that and before you

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<v Speaker 1>know it, you need more and more, and you need different,

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<v Speaker 1>you need and so you kind of like and so

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<v Speaker 1>it does get a little dangerous. And I think that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't know. I mean, that's my personal opinion.

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<v Speaker 1>You called the guy, you called this guy today to

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<v Speaker 1>ask this guy, so how this man thinks. I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you honestly waited five years, I also think you

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<v Speaker 1>should pretty quick. Like I think you guys should go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead and tie the knot thank you, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>wait to get married. But also look at like why

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<v Speaker 1>are you wanting to almost ask yourself the question like

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<v Speaker 1>why are you considering why do you think now after

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<v Speaker 1>five years you want to introduce sexity relationship? And is

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<v Speaker 1>it because you've hit a bump? Is it because you're

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like you're feeling it straight? And then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that's a question you've got to ask yourself, like is

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<v Speaker 1>he the guy that you're supposed to be with? And

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<v Speaker 1>then what's beautiful about waiting is if he's not, then

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<v Speaker 1>the next person comes in. And if you guys are

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<v Speaker 1>both waited, then you you're still fresh for each other

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<v Speaker 1>and you're still yah. You know mean, I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Should should I still bring it up?

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<v Speaker 1>To him and say like, hey, I've had these thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe it's something we need to look into, not

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of us having sex, people getting married, but

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<v Speaker 1>if it's something between us, Yeah, maybe, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's I think it's always important to have a

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<v Speaker 1>really open dialogue with your significant other. I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>the best. That's the that's that's you know, a relationship

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<v Speaker 1>is all about conversation. It's about honest conversation and say like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I've been having this feeling. But I wonder

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<v Speaker 1>if it's because I'm wanting to like bridge something, or

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<v Speaker 1>I feel a gap and I'm trying to fill this gap,

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<v Speaker 1>or I feel you're slipping away, or I'm a little

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<v Speaker 1>I'm starting to slip away and I need more connected

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<v Speaker 1>to you, And you know, maybe that's where the heart

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<v Speaker 1>of it is. And maybe it's not about you know,

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<v Speaker 1>sex is fun, but it's it's ephemeral. It's quick, and

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<v Speaker 1>it's done, and it's then you're and then you're still

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<v Speaker 1>stuck with whatever, you know what I mean. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much. You're welcome, Ami, thanks for calling.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, thank you, Hi, Claire, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much. So did you call with a question?

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<v Speaker 1>I did? All right, what is your question, Clarience, Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my question is I have been married for ten going

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<v Speaker 1>on eleven years. Mary is great, thank you. I know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty I mean, I feel like in today's California

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<v Speaker 1>it's a huge moms to it's a big deal. Yeah. So,

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<v Speaker 1>and we are very happy and we have two amazing kids.

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<v Speaker 1>One is six and one is eight. And I am

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<v Speaker 1>feeling really frustrated right now because I feel, I feel

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<v Speaker 1>and I know, I know it's not just a feeling.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I am always the disciplinary in My

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<v Speaker 1>husband always resorts to whatever your mom says, go ask

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<v Speaker 1>your mom? Did you talk to your mom? And I

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<v Speaker 1>need him in order for our kids to not see

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<v Speaker 1>us as good ca bad cop. I need him to

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<v Speaker 1>be more firm with the kids. But I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to make him feel like he's not being a good parent,

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<v Speaker 1>because he is a good parent. So I would love

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<v Speaker 1>some advice on how to have that discussion with him without,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, making it sound like I'm the bad cop

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<v Speaker 1>and he's the good cop every time? Right, Claire, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you are your your your desire for for equity regarding

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<v Speaker 1>discipline is justified. Um, what's your husband's name? Is that

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<v Speaker 1>okay to ask him? Yeah, it's Thomas Thomas, so you'd say, hey, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I think, have you had the conversation with him about, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this feels unfair and you make me feel like the

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<v Speaker 1>bad cop and you get to be the good coup

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<v Speaker 1>Have you had that conversation yet? I've teetered around it,

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<v Speaker 1>but the couple of times I've brought it up, I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like he has been Like I think his reaction

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<v Speaker 1>is just, oh, you're overreacting. Oh, like that's not true. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's kind of in denial. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he really realizes that he does it as much as

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<v Speaker 1>he does. It's always go ask your mother, what did

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<v Speaker 1>your mother say? You know, what would your mother think?

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<v Speaker 1>Whatever your mother says? You know, And I don't. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I notice it. I think more because it's he's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's me. He's deflecting everything onto you. Yeah, okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>my wife does this wonderful thing where she goes on strike.

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<v Speaker 1>She's like, Okay, I'm just not gonna if you don't wanna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, if you don't value the fact that I

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<v Speaker 1>do laundry, Like here, you do it for a week

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<v Speaker 1>and it really drives home the message pretty quick, or

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, oh, I really do appreciate this, like this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of amazing, or wow, you are really helpful

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<v Speaker 1>with the kids, or this. So I wonder what would

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<v Speaker 1>happen if you instead of Okay, so the conversation is

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<v Speaker 1>hard to have, and if he's not as receptive the conversation,

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder what would happen if you, for a period

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<v Speaker 1>of time, deliberately made the decision to just deflect all

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<v Speaker 1>of it onto Thomas and be like, whatever your father says,

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<v Speaker 1>you do what your father says, and then all and

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<v Speaker 1>like trump him in being the good cop. Basically, I

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<v Speaker 1>love this idea. Yeah, you know, it's not it's not

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<v Speaker 1>my issue, it's daddy's. Should talk to daddy about it

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<v Speaker 1>and like let him see what happens when you just

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<v Speaker 1>dump everything into his lab. You know, this might actually

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<v Speaker 1>work out well because my mom is coming into town

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<v Speaker 1>next week, so they'll be like two days where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing some things with her, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>I just won't be as available anyway to my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So if I kind of couple that with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for a few days kind of I like like this,

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<v Speaker 1>I like this, I like, Hey, Mom's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>in town. I'm gonna be super busy for the next

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<v Speaker 1>few days. I really need you to kind of take

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<v Speaker 1>take over daddy duty with the kids, you know, like

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<v Speaker 1>I need If you really want my opinion on this,

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<v Speaker 1>I think you should frontload it with this decision. So

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<v Speaker 1>like three days before your mom comes into town, I

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<v Speaker 1>would start to strike and then let the let a crescendo.

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<v Speaker 1>So when she's there, you're like, maybe I'm with my mom,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know what to do, Like I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 1>got So he's already feeling it by the time your

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<v Speaker 1>mom gets there. Oh my gosh, I love me. Thomas

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<v Speaker 1>is gonna be like you, son of a gun? Why

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<v Speaker 1>do you give her that advice? Here's what I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>say to you, the Claire Um. I know that relationships

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<v Speaker 1>are long term investments, and discipline is the most incredible

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<v Speaker 1>way to show love because we don't get to discipline

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in our lives. Like there's only a few people

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<v Speaker 1>that we get to discipline and who will listen to

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<v Speaker 1>us and chart and change the course of their lives.

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<v Speaker 1>And that input you're giving into your kids, Like even

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<v Speaker 1>though it's frustrating and it might feel unfair and I

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<v Speaker 1>might feel like you're always being the bad cop, it's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bond you guys in a way that And truly

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<v Speaker 1>he's missing out on that experience. And so for him

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<v Speaker 1>as a man, like I wish I could talk to him,

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<v Speaker 1>because there's nothing like a father's love and you have

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<v Speaker 1>to be like a part of that love. The fullness

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<v Speaker 1>of that love is being able to speak into somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's life and say, listen, for your own good, you

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<v Speaker 1>should stop doing this. But for the respect of the

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with your mother, you need to stop talking to

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<v Speaker 1>her like that. Or you've got to stop eating candy

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<v Speaker 1>because it's gonna hurt your body and your blood sugar

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<v Speaker 1>and you might get diabetes and sick. Like there's there's

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<v Speaker 1>he's missing out on a really essential part of being

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<v Speaker 1>a father. And I, you know, it's crazy you say that,

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<v Speaker 1>because my dad was very much a disciplinarian and I

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<v Speaker 1>hated it when I was younger, and I grew to

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<v Speaker 1>respect him so much, and I have such a close

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with both my parents. But like, but you know,

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<v Speaker 1>if my dad wasn't that way, I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>would have respected him as much as I do now,

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<v Speaker 1>So that's a really And also talk to him though too,

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<v Speaker 1>because maybe, I mean, maybe he has really awful memories

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<v Speaker 1>of being you know, maybe what you don't know is

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<v Speaker 1>that his dad had a terrible temper or mom, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>at a terrible temper when he was really little, and

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he shell shot that doesn't want to trigger. So

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<v Speaker 1>maybe he you know, he's guarding your kids from a

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<v Speaker 1>terrible temper that we don't know about. Like I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not I'm not saying that, Thomas. I'm just saying,

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<v Speaker 1>look at it from every angle and say, why aren't

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<v Speaker 1>you doing that? Like why aren't you digging in? Because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it really is a part of parents that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>being a disciplinarian is a part of the job. And

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<v Speaker 1>it's it really is, like you know, like I can't imagine,

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<v Speaker 1>not like I just I like being able to say

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<v Speaker 1>hey guys and having my kids listen to me because

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<v Speaker 1>they're not my wife, you know, yeah, not afraid of respect? Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Should I talk to him before the strike, like try

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to him and then like pitch the strike

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<v Speaker 1>idea or say hey, listen, this is this is what

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<v Speaker 1>I think I really want to do. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>going to help us. This is what's up, and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of do the strike and then after my mom leaves

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<v Speaker 1>kind of reconvenient, you know, like how is the last week,

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<v Speaker 1>how are the kids, how are you feeling? I kind

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<v Speaker 1>of like the strike idea. First it gets a sense

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<v Speaker 1>of what you really understanding, what you go through, and

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<v Speaker 1>like what you're dealing with. And then just talk to

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<v Speaker 1>him and say, can we unpack this together? Like what

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<v Speaker 1>are you afraid of? Why don't you like to you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it reflective of your childhood? Is it like? And

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<v Speaker 1>then say you know you're missing out on because it

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<v Speaker 1>really does. I think like there is something special about

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<v Speaker 1>being able to speak into somebody's life and correct in

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<v Speaker 1>the right way, you know, like it's it's a part

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<v Speaker 1>of it. Absolutely, this is great. I'm actually kind of

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<v Speaker 1>excited to almost do this experiment and kind of see

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<v Speaker 1>what happens. I do think when you don't have something,

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<v Speaker 1>you do learn how much you appreciate it. So I

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<v Speaker 1>think him not having me as the scapegoat for the week,

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<v Speaker 1>and I didn't mention, but we have two boys, so

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<v Speaker 1>I do think it's just so important for him to

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<v Speaker 1>be present in their lives as the disciplinarian. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>all for this. I'll have to I feel like I

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<v Speaker 1>need to report back and let you know how I

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<v Speaker 1>was going to stay clear. I gotta find out some

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<v Speaker 1>some way. Well, we'll figure out. I want to hear

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<v Speaker 1>how it goes. We'll connect again. Thank you so much.

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