WEBVTT - John Cena's Dark Side FINALLY Unleashed! 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:02.480 H m hm hm. 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:18.720 H m. 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:35.879 Hey everyone, it is between the extreme Frans meun and 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:38.760 you are listening to Eyes up here with Frans on 0:00:38.880 --> 0:00:40.960 the iHeart Radio Network or wherever. 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:44.720 A podcast as always time in viewing grayma Coochus, Chad, 0:00:45.800 --> 0:00:47.920 what is up? How are you? 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.360 What's chasing from practicing? 0:00:51.240 --> 0:00:51.280 For? 0:00:51.440 --> 0:00:51.479 What? 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:54.800 What is that? Sorry? 0:00:54.760 --> 0:00:55.720 Am I John Cena fan? 0:00:55.920 --> 0:00:59.240 You're scowling at me? Let me tell you. Are we 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:01.840 getting right into this? Are we not even gonna talk? 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:02.480 What? 0:01:05.120 --> 0:01:11.080 That picture is? Everywhere? It is the meme of all means. 0:01:12.160 --> 0:01:17.680 Everybody is just putting that picture as the wallpaper. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:20.360 It's it's all over the place. 0:01:21.000 --> 0:01:24.760 And let me say something. If you didn't see that coming, 0:01:24.880 --> 0:01:30.039 something's wrong with you. That's all I'm gonna say. That's 0:01:30.080 --> 0:01:33.760 the way I feel. This is his last year. They 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:38.040 had to do something, so I wasn't really surprised by it. 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:39.600 I'm just gonna put it out there. 0:01:40.360 --> 0:01:44.160 So are you trying to say it's not your same? 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:49.720 I mean? Is it? Because I'm a grizzled old vet 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:55.040 and I know my wrestling. I don't know. I don't know. 0:01:55.320 --> 0:01:59.120 I thought it was done well, don't get me wrong. 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:03.280 And maybe the average fan didn't see it coming, but 0:02:03.400 --> 0:02:07.040 I was just like, something's going down, Something's gonna happen. 0:02:07.400 --> 0:02:10.000 And listen, this is a long time in the making too. 0:02:11.520 --> 0:02:14.080 They've been talking a scena heel turned for years and 0:02:14.160 --> 0:02:18.240 years and years and it's never happened, right, and finally 0:02:19.080 --> 0:02:22.760 it happens. So I wasn't surprised by it. I know 0:02:22.800 --> 0:02:23.760 a lot of people were. 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:28.880 I saw a really funny clip as they were walking 0:02:29.080 --> 0:02:31.160 back to the locker room. 0:02:31.720 --> 0:02:37.720 It was a rock and Sena and Travis Scott and 0:02:37.760 --> 0:02:39.160 there was one fan. 0:02:40.440 --> 0:02:47.600 Who just kept going wha, see why over and over again, 0:02:47.680 --> 0:02:51.040 and he would not crack a smile. But like, if 0:02:51.040 --> 0:02:54.360 that was me, I probably would have broke character at 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:57.640 the cover of my face and laugh. Yeah, that's the picture. 0:02:57.760 --> 0:03:03.239 Look at that face. It's like, oh that is That's 0:03:03.280 --> 0:03:06.000 like every teenager's face when they have to like go 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:09.280 to school or do something or be nice to their 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:15.840 brother or sister or whatever. I mean, that face is ridiculous. 0:03:16.040 --> 0:03:20.160 And and look, I know you've said a million times 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:26.399 Cody needs to turn heel, but this just solidified him 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:29.520 as the greatest babyface of all time. 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.360 Yeah, this is gonna make him an ultimate babyface. 0:03:33.440 --> 0:03:37.480 Right, Oh my god, huge, huge, And when he took 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.640 the watch and he hit him with the watch, his 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.520 dad's watch. Oh, I loved it. 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:47.880 I love heel seen it help hold on? 0:03:48.040 --> 0:03:52.240 How many times over the years, right, I don't know. 0:03:52.440 --> 0:03:54.320 I met John Cena when I worked for the Fake 0:03:54.440 --> 0:03:56.560 Easy Dub in two thousand and six and he wasn't 0:03:56.600 --> 0:03:59.720 even like totally blown up yet. So he's been there 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:03.920 for like decades. Right, how many times has he gone 0:04:04.000 --> 0:04:07.520 to the ring and he was either. 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:10.960 Uber over or it was like eh. 0:04:10.320 --> 0:04:12.440 You know, kind of like we hate John now, like 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:15.400 either love him or you hate them. There's really no 0:04:15.520 --> 0:04:22.120 in between. And now it's just everybody collective booze. This 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.120 is what I've been waiting for with this man. I 0:04:26.200 --> 0:04:31.479 love heal Sina, I love him now. I don't like 0:04:32.279 --> 0:04:34.320 the Rock being involved. 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:40.200 What I don't I don't like it when I know 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:44.279 they're corporate and they just push himself into the main storyline. 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:47.560 I don't like that. 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:51.680 See, No, I disagreed. I think it's fantastic. 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:54.880 I don't like Oh, I think it's uh. I think 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:55.840 it's you. 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:58.320 Know what with people are going to criticize it. They're 0:04:58.320 --> 0:05:00.720 going to criticize the fact that you know, Rock and 0:05:00.800 --> 0:05:04.800 Seena have this long history, and also at WrestleMania last year, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.320 you know, they had that interaction during the match where 0:05:08.360 --> 0:05:11.720 Sena came out to help Cody and Rock came out 0:05:11.760 --> 0:05:14.720 to then beat up Sena. Like they'll maybe mention that, 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.880 but no, I love it. I think it's great because 0:05:17.880 --> 0:05:20.359 that means it's like going back to the old you know, 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:22.720 we don't talk about the guy anymore, but Vince. You know, 0:05:22.760 --> 0:05:25.560 when Vince would turn you and you went corporate, you 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.560 went with the boss, And this makes sense that you know, 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:33.360 there's obviously gonna be a Sena needs one last hurrah, 0:05:33.520 --> 0:05:36.039 and the guy who's gonna make it happen is The Rock. 0:05:36.360 --> 0:05:38.800 You know, I think that I think this works. I 0:05:38.920 --> 0:05:39.599 like this a lot. 0:05:40.400 --> 0:05:43.680 Yeah, I knew you would. I don't know. 0:05:43.839 --> 0:05:49.880 I just it's like when Triple H used to come 0:05:49.920 --> 0:05:52.239 out and we knew he was like in charge of everything, 0:05:52.240 --> 0:05:54.080 and he'd come out and he would do something and 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:55.960 then go over and it's just. 0:05:55.880 --> 0:05:59.880 Like do you really need it? You know, I'm not 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.279 saying that the Rock doesn't do his job well because 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:05.200 I hate him. I hate him. 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:08.160 I hate the character. And that's what you want right, 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:10.320 you want to hate the Rock because he's a heel. 0:06:10.839 --> 0:06:13.960 He's playing it to perfection. I don't know if I 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.919 want him in this angle. I didn't want him in 0:06:16.960 --> 0:06:19.839 the angle last year if you remember us talking the 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:23.640 Rock here. I just want him to be behind the scenes. 0:06:25.920 --> 0:06:30.320 I don't know, that's just me. I just don't want 0:06:30.320 --> 0:06:31.239 to see him on my TV. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:34.280 Yeah, it's great. Now back to your SNA point. 0:06:34.960 --> 0:06:39.119 It became almost chic to boo him at a time 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:42.279 because when he was the champ, he was super over 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:45.720 and they were building him. It almost became just the 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:49.359 thing to boo him, you know what I mean, like music, 0:06:49.520 --> 0:06:51.479 you boot him. But then by the end of the match, 0:06:51.640 --> 0:06:53.000 everybody was cheering him. 0:06:53.360 --> 0:06:55.120 So I remember going to those. 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:57.640 Shows and being fifty to fifty when he came out, 0:06:57.680 --> 0:06:59.440 and at the end of the night, you know, he 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:02.520 hit the attitude adjustment one, two three, the parties over, 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:03.560 everybody was cheering on. 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:04.960 The way out. 0:07:05.320 --> 0:07:07.440 It just got to a point where they called it 0:07:07.520 --> 0:07:09.760 Supersena where he was just untouchable. 0:07:10.120 --> 0:07:11.640 But it got the point with everybody. 0:07:11.640 --> 0:07:13.640 It got to that point with the Hulkster, it got 0:07:13.640 --> 0:07:15.080 to that point, you know, with. 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:18.440 Austin it gets to that point when you're that level 0:07:18.480 --> 0:07:21.280 of a guy, you just know they're not gonna lose. 0:07:22.600 --> 0:07:26.240 They're gonna get to that point with Cody at some stage. 0:07:27.360 --> 0:07:30.760 I gotta say, this is the way to go. I'm 0:07:30.840 --> 0:07:33.960 so pumped for WrestleMania now knowing that it's gonna be 0:07:34.000 --> 0:07:37.880 a heel Seena against Cody rather than you know, Babyface 0:07:38.040 --> 0:07:42.920 versus grizzled Babyface. You know, shaking handnds and mutual respect 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:44.400 and all that stuff. 0:07:44.000 --> 0:07:45.920 And ah man, this is just great. 0:07:46.160 --> 0:07:48.920 And heel Rock, you know in the jumpsuit, come on, like, 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:49.720 that's so great. 0:07:50.040 --> 0:07:51.960 Jumps It's so ridiculous. 0:07:52.360 --> 0:07:58.800 How does the Rock incorporate himself into WrestleMania. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.720 I think they saw how awesome a response they got 0:08:02.720 --> 0:08:07.080 for that ridiculous run in thing last year, and they're 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.560 gonna overkill the hell of it again and bring it 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:13.960 up another tier. I think the guys that you didn't 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:16.000 see last year are gonna come back. 0:08:16.440 --> 0:08:18.200 Are They're going to show up this year that weren't 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:18.920 there last year. 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.600 But do you do you think the Rock interferes? Do 0:08:23.640 --> 0:08:26.520 you think he doesn't? Do you think he's doing a 0:08:26.600 --> 0:08:30.920 run in and interfering and getting himself over during Russell. 0:08:31.520 --> 0:08:33.960 Now people are saying that if you go back to 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:37.200 Bad Blood, excuse me, the Rock did like a this 0:08:37.480 --> 0:08:39.880 he did he held up three fingers. 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:41.000 Like the triple threat. Wow. 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:43.360 Yeah, yes, yeah, you don't remember that he did like 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:45.679 he held it up like this and he was saying 0:08:45.679 --> 0:08:47.880 it was a three finger. Now, some people were thinking 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:51.040 that John Cena was also doing the three finger at 0:08:51.040 --> 0:08:55.760 one point. He was, but when he did when Rock 0:08:55.880 --> 0:08:58.640 did this, he held up two fingers. 0:08:58.960 --> 0:08:59.600 Yeah. 0:08:59.760 --> 0:09:02.400 Some people say, well, is there a third person to 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:06.760 this group? So is this story over? We don't know 0:09:06.840 --> 0:09:07.640 if it's done. 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:11.680 Interesting, I don't know again, I'm not I think the 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:17.280 Rock is uber talented, charisma coming out of every poor. 0:09:17.160 --> 0:09:21.160 Orifice of his body, like he's got it. I just 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.480 knowing that he's in charge in the back. I just 0:09:25.679 --> 0:09:30.320 wish that he would have stayed in the back, Like, 0:09:30.559 --> 0:09:32.040 I don't know if we got it. 0:09:32.480 --> 0:09:34.400 I don't know if we need him for this. 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:38.480 It adds a different layer to the angle, for sure, 0:09:39.080 --> 0:09:42.280 there's a you know, a different element with him being. 0:09:42.080 --> 0:09:42.760 Involved in it. 0:09:43.280 --> 0:09:47.360 But do we really need him in this? Don't you 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.960 think John Cena could have turned heel on his own. 0:09:51.320 --> 0:09:51.720 Possible. 0:09:51.800 --> 0:09:55.120 No, I don't know. I think kind of it takes 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:59.520 a little bit, just a little bit away from Sina 0:09:59.720 --> 0:10:00.960 with Rock being there. 0:10:01.559 --> 0:10:03.800 Okay, I got a counterpoint to that. In the match, 0:10:04.960 --> 0:10:09.559 CM Punk had to get curb stomped right to get 0:10:09.640 --> 0:10:14.880 knocked out. When he got curb stomped, Sena jumped like 0:10:15.240 --> 0:10:19.760 enthusiastically on the knocked out CM Punk in a very 0:10:19.880 --> 0:10:23.719 like ooh opportunistic way. So it was a little bit 0:10:23.760 --> 0:10:26.480 of a hint that something was up with Sena. I 0:10:26.559 --> 0:10:30.760 think that this version of Sena needs somebody like the Rock, 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:36.360 necessarily John Sena. The John Cena we knew prior to 0:10:36.520 --> 0:10:41.679 this return didn't, but this John Cena might need the Rock. 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:44.400 Who do you think is the bigger star? 0:10:49.160 --> 0:10:53.640 Yeah, anybody, as much as I think Sena is unbelievable. 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.680 If you if you took the stage in the nineties, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:58.840 you are the bigger star. 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:02.199 Yeah. You you performed in front of more people on 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:04.880 a weekly basis. I think the year one hundred percent 0:11:04.880 --> 0:11:07.040 the bigger start. I mean, what do you think the 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:12.760 ratings were higher, people were reaching more homes. Every shows 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.680 were reaching more homes. You know, what would you think? 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:21.280 I just I feel like it's a different time, you know, 0:11:21.320 --> 0:11:24.439 the nineties to two thousands whatever. We always argue with that, 0:11:24.480 --> 0:11:27.480 like if you look at the ratings today and wrestling 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.400 it's still hot, you know, but the ratings don't reflect 0:11:31.480 --> 0:11:35.440 how hot wrestling is. You go to all these conventions 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:38.680 and the live shows are selling out and there's thousands 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:42.320 and thousands of people, but sometimes you barely get a 0:11:42.360 --> 0:11:47.040 two million, you know, percentage for your. 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:51.160 Show two million people watching. Back in the day, you'd 0:11:51.160 --> 0:11:57.439 get like five, six, ten million a week watching wrestling. 0:11:57.800 --> 0:12:01.040 Where are all these people at They're coming out to 0:12:01.080 --> 0:12:05.080 the live events, they're hotter than ever, you know, where 0:12:05.120 --> 0:12:06.640 are they at watching? 0:12:07.840 --> 0:12:13.480 That's the question that I have because the numbers don't lie. 0:12:13.640 --> 0:12:16.800 I just don't understand, you know. But getting back to 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:21.280 your question, I feel like both of them for their time. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.320 Were like on top of their game, you know what 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:31.000 I mean. And now to have them together it's something special. Yes, 0:12:31.120 --> 0:12:33.640 I will agree to that because you see two generations 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:34.320 coming together. 0:12:35.160 --> 0:12:39.240 For me, I just I kind of think that the Rock. 0:12:39.120 --> 0:12:41.920 Takes just a little bit of the edge away from 0:12:42.040 --> 0:12:46.800 Scena being involved in this angle because he to me, 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.959 you look at the Rock and even though seeing a 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.000 turned heel, the rock is always going to be the 0:12:51.000 --> 0:12:54.920 bigger heel because the Rock tempted him with the apple, 0:12:55.520 --> 0:12:59.200 and now he's following suit. So I think it just 0:12:59.280 --> 0:13:03.880 takes as breath taking the turn it was. It just 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.840 takes a little bit away from it, in my opinion, 0:13:07.160 --> 0:13:11.120 But still excellent, Still an excellent I think it was 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:12.360 long overdue. 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:15.959 But what time. 0:13:16.320 --> 0:13:18.280 I mean, it's a great time to do it his 0:13:18.400 --> 0:13:21.840 last year. You know, it gets people talking, It gets 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:23.680 people more interested in WrestleMania. 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:26.120 I liked it. I liked it a lot. 0:13:27.360 --> 0:13:29.120 All right, there's a couple more things we got to 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:33.600 break down here from it. Did you see the Travis Scott. 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:35.440 To Cody. 0:13:35.760 --> 0:13:37.440 Don't get me started on that. 0:13:37.720 --> 0:13:41.920 First of all, somebody needed to smarten him up on 0:13:42.120 --> 0:13:45.400 how to either I don't know if it was a 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:47.240 punch or an open handed slap. 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:52.840 That's how you puncture somebody's ear drum. That was that 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:55.440 looked to me it looked like look at that. It 0:13:55.480 --> 0:13:59.480 looked like it was right on his ear. Do you 0:13:59.640 --> 0:14:02.280 know you can puncture somebody's ear drum with an open 0:14:02.400 --> 0:14:03.120 slap like that? 0:14:03.800 --> 0:14:04.240 Look at that? 0:14:04.360 --> 0:14:04.440 Right? 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:06.440 Yeah, you're right. It's almost exact location. 0:14:06.720 --> 0:14:07.800 It's right on his ear. 0:14:07.800 --> 0:14:10.440 And you know how I know this because back in 0:14:10.520 --> 0:14:16.720 ECW when Rick Rude wore the mask, I was told 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:20.760 I had to smack him in the ring. And I 0:14:21.000 --> 0:14:24.120 smacked him and I could not see where his ear was, 0:14:24.400 --> 0:14:25.800 and I punctured his ear drum. 0:14:26.880 --> 0:14:30.920 Oh wow, okay, and he came up to me. 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:34.240 I didn't know I did it because I couldn't, you know, 0:14:34.320 --> 0:14:37.080 with that mask, I couldn't see a thing. 0:14:37.360 --> 0:14:41.800 So I just swung at him right and he came. 0:14:41.680 --> 0:14:44.160 Up to me and he held his nose and blew 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:46.240 and I heard a whistle coming out of his ear, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.400 and I just looked at him, and he goes, you 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.840 punctured my ear drum, and I said, I'm sorry, but 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:55.480 I could not see your ear. 0:14:55.960 --> 0:14:58.960 And I don't know if he moved his head because. 0:14:58.760 --> 0:15:01.920 I really wasn't aiming for for this part of his head, 0:15:02.560 --> 0:15:05.600 but it just so happened that my hand, and it 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:06.960 wasn't deliberate. 0:15:08.080 --> 0:15:08.200 All. 0:15:08.280 --> 0:15:11.400 I would never want to hurt anybody, but I punctured 0:15:11.400 --> 0:15:14.320 his ear drum. You know, now, if he didn't have 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:18.360 the mask on, you know, I usually aim for your chin, 0:15:19.160 --> 0:15:21.400 and I'm sure that's what I did. But I don't 0:15:21.400 --> 0:15:23.720 know if he leaned in a little bit or I 0:15:23.880 --> 0:15:26.440 just missed because the mask was hiding everything. 0:15:26.560 --> 0:15:28.640 I got put the mask, and that mask was very 0:15:28.760 --> 0:15:31.920 kind of strange where I could see wherever you aimed it, 0:15:32.040 --> 0:15:32.920 it could if it hit here. 0:15:33.040 --> 0:15:34.440 You know, how do you know an ears right there? 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:36.280 I did not know his ear was right there, and 0:15:36.320 --> 0:15:37.080 he was pissed. 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:40.280 He was pissed. But again, it wasn't my fault. I 0:15:40.320 --> 0:15:43.240 didn't do it on purpose. You know, I would never. 0:15:43.960 --> 0:15:47.480 I've never as many times as I slapped somebody, I've 0:15:47.560 --> 0:15:49.120 never went for the ear. 0:15:49.880 --> 0:15:52.000 And I've slapped quite a few men in that company, 0:15:52.600 --> 0:15:53.920 you know what I mean, and women. 0:15:55.120 --> 0:15:59.640 So But but getting back to Travis Scott, he should 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:04.760 know better, like somebody should have smartened him up how 0:16:04.800 --> 0:16:07.960 to work, because you know, you get in there with 0:16:08.040 --> 0:16:10.680 these green people who don't know what they're doing, you. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.640 Can really get hurt, right. 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:16.600 And you know, I don't know if any damage came 0:16:16.680 --> 0:16:19.000 to his ear, but I got pissed when I saw that. 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:22.840 I was just like, man, why would he aim? 0:16:23.560 --> 0:16:25.960 You know, I know you're out there and the people 0:16:26.240 --> 0:16:29.440 you're getting hype and your adrenaline is going and. 0:16:30.840 --> 0:16:35.560 Still like we're there to protect each other. He saw 0:16:35.760 --> 0:16:38.120 he could see his ear clearly, and he went right 0:16:38.120 --> 0:16:38.480 for it. 0:16:40.320 --> 0:16:42.640 Now again, do you think it's a case of somebody 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:44.200 being over enthusiastic. 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:46.360 Do you think it's a case of. 0:16:46.400 --> 0:16:50.000 Him just being caught up in the moment, or you know, 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.320 do you think it's a case of they're being a 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:53.920 little bit too lax on? 0:16:54.160 --> 0:16:56.400 Oh he's smoking his stuff in the ring. 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.760 Oh, look at him. He's Travis Scott, He's this big star. 0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:03.520 And you know what if he is being a little 0:17:03.560 --> 0:17:06.239 bit you know, uh, too cool for the room with 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:09.280 his little smoke, he could be getting under the influence 0:17:09.320 --> 0:17:11.439 and that's why he just got a little too slap 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.400 happy and they smacks Cody Rhodes right in the middle 0:17:14.440 --> 0:17:14.880 of the ring. 0:17:15.240 --> 0:17:17.480 Well, that's that's the point I was just trying to make. 0:17:17.560 --> 0:17:20.720 It's like, when you're out there, you're adrenaline is going, 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:23.200 and you got the crowd behind you, and you're like, well, 0:17:23.280 --> 0:17:24.800 hype up and you want to look like you're a 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.960 strong guy, and so you just give a wild swing. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:33.040 But did anybody tell him like, you know, hit him, 0:17:33.520 --> 0:17:36.280 like hit him low on the face, don't go near 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:38.640 his ear, you know, watch his eye. 0:17:38.160 --> 0:17:39.040 That kind of thing. 0:17:39.119 --> 0:17:42.359 Like, did anybody smarten him up? Was he just like 0:17:42.520 --> 0:17:44.119 over zealous when he was out there? 0:17:44.880 --> 0:17:45.840 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 0:17:45.840 --> 0:17:47.719 But is he you know, he's under the influence now 0:17:47.760 --> 0:17:49.040 he's they're letting him smoke. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:53.640 It is Why are they letting somebody smoke weed when 0:17:53.640 --> 0:17:55.560 there's a million children in the audience? 0:17:56.359 --> 0:17:58.520 Because he is who he is and this is cool. 0:17:58.680 --> 0:17:59.520 We can do that now. 0:18:00.000 --> 0:18:01.960 Now I don't find it cool. 0:18:02.440 --> 0:18:04.719 Call me an old I was gonna say, that's all 0:18:04.800 --> 0:18:05.800 that's old man, Chad. 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.800 So I just know that. I'm not saying you have 0:18:09.840 --> 0:18:11.119 to be Pg. Thirteen. 0:18:11.400 --> 0:18:15.320 But you know, smoking weed in the middle of a ring, 0:18:15.359 --> 0:18:19.480 if that's what he was really smoking, you got a 0:18:19.520 --> 0:18:22.280 million kids there, like, why would you do something like that? 0:18:23.080 --> 0:18:25.240 And Cody Rhoades dropping the F bomb? 0:18:26.280 --> 0:18:28.600 Didn't love that either, But again, I you know, I 0:18:28.640 --> 0:18:31.720 got a blondehaired good friend that used to drop the 0:18:31.840 --> 0:18:32.160 F bomb. 0:18:32.280 --> 0:18:35.760 Yeah, right with you, right by his side every week. 0:18:36.359 --> 0:18:38.440 I just gonna say I didn't mind the F bomb 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:41.719 so much. The weed kind of bothered me if it 0:18:41.760 --> 0:18:45.359 was really weed, But the F bomb, I was just like, 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:52.440 oh well, edgy, you know, and it's Cody big babyface. 0:18:52.560 --> 0:18:55.240 So I kind of was digging that part, to be 0:18:55.320 --> 0:18:55.919 honest with you. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:05.439 Now everybody's talking about Hogan ninety six, Sena twenty twenty five. Yeah, 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.880 biggest heel turns of all time, you know, Sena, We've 0:19:09.880 --> 0:19:11.479 been waiting for it, YadA, YadA, YadA. 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:15.600 But I feel like the Hogan turn. 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:20.920 Is just on another plane. You know, it cannot be touched. 0:19:21.440 --> 0:19:23.880 And I feel like if you're gonna start saying it's 0:19:24.000 --> 0:19:27.760 the biggest one since that, you then start to omit 0:19:27.840 --> 0:19:32.160 other things and people can enter other heel turns into 0:19:32.200 --> 0:19:34.639 the chat. And now how do you say, oh, that 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:37.119 wasn't a big deal, or oh that wasn't a big deal. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.480 Do you compare the other two at all? 0:19:42.400 --> 0:19:43.720 No, I don't. 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:48.520 I think Hogan's was far superior. And I don't think 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.680 I'm the only one who would say that out loud. 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:53.600 You're not. 0:19:53.840 --> 0:19:55.480 I would completely agree with you on that. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:20:00.680 I kind of saw this coming. I wasn't sure when, 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:02.880 but I wasn't surprised by. 0:20:02.720 --> 0:20:06.439 It either, you know what I mean. He wasn't going 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.680 to go his whole career as a babyface, So right place, 0:20:10.800 --> 0:20:15.840 right time, right, WrestleMania perfect? But did it compare to Hogan? 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:20.960 New New? Now? 0:20:20.960 --> 0:20:23.480 I got one that I will put on the same 0:20:23.560 --> 0:20:27.240 level as Sena that I didn't see coming when it 0:20:27.320 --> 0:20:30.960 happened mine, thank you, No, no, no, it's not you. 0:20:31.000 --> 0:20:35.280 No, it's w W. Do you think you might have 0:20:35.359 --> 0:20:41.040 an idea what I'm gonna say. No, not at all. 0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:46.360 I don't think so. You think to before he said 0:20:46.400 --> 0:20:47.280 you had something to tell me? 0:20:47.400 --> 0:20:47.520 Oh? 0:20:47.560 --> 0:20:49.760 Okay, no what he what? 0:20:50.320 --> 0:20:50.639 All right? 0:20:50.680 --> 0:20:52.880 So think about the level a guy we're at. We're 0:20:52.920 --> 0:20:59.600 at Hogan. Yeah, so if we're going to enter heel 0:20:59.680 --> 0:21:05.639 turn into the conversation, how is nobody talking about this one? 0:21:09.680 --> 0:21:16.080 Austin McMahon, That wasn't a big deal. I mean, guys 0:21:16.119 --> 0:21:18.560 thought McMahon for five years and then he turns and 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:21.200 goes with McMahon. I think that's on the same level 0:21:21.240 --> 0:21:21.720 as Sena. 0:21:22.680 --> 0:21:24.520 Oh yeah, but it's still not on the same level 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:25.000 as Hogan. 0:21:25.520 --> 0:21:26.760 Oh it's not touching Hogan. 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:29.639 But I think if you're gonna compare Hogan and Sena, 0:21:29.720 --> 0:21:32.879 you gotta at least compare Austin to Sina. 0:21:32.960 --> 0:21:34.440 Nobody's even talking about this. 0:21:36.320 --> 0:21:39.639 I don't know. Maybe people saw this coming a mile away. 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.720 I don't think anybody saw John Cena coming because you 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:47.800 can't see him. Seriously, I saw it coming. You didn't 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:51.560 see this coming with Sina. You didn't see it heel 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:52.200 turn coming? 0:21:53.160 --> 0:21:57.359 Uh not really, No, I didn't. 0:21:59.080 --> 0:21:59.840 I thought it wasn't ever. 0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.240 I didn't know when, but I knew it was gonna 0:22:04.280 --> 0:22:08.479 happen before he retired. And why not do it right 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.639