1
00:00:01,040 --> 00:00:03,760
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

2
00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:08,240
Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in Fox Sports Radios. Fox Sports Sunday,

3
00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:11,119
Speaker 2: Mike Carmen Danbyer with you live from the Tirac dot

4
00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,160
Speaker 2: com studios. Tirerac dot com will help you get there

5
00:00:14,400 --> 00:00:18,239
Speaker 2: an unmatched selection, fast, free shipping, free road hazard protection,

6
00:00:18,560 --> 00:00:22,080
Speaker 2: and over ten thousand recommended installers. Tire act dot com

7
00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:26,480
Speaker 2: the way tire buying should be. Welcome in another beautiful

8
00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:29,280
Speaker 2: four hours ahead of us, as the sun starts to

9
00:00:29,400 --> 00:00:32,360
Speaker 2: rise here on the West Coast, We've already got action

10
00:00:32,600 --> 00:00:36,800
Speaker 2: overseas Leads and West Ham. Yeah, Man City's already won

11
00:00:36,840 --> 00:00:39,200
Speaker 2: the won the league. But you know what, they still

12
00:00:39,200 --> 00:00:41,200
Speaker 2: got to play the games, dam Byer, We're gonna watch

13
00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,560
Speaker 2: them all. We got pjaa championship later on today, more

14
00:00:44,720 --> 00:00:48,560
Speaker 2: NBA and NHL playoffs. It's just a veritable smorgas boarding.

15
00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:51,120
Speaker 2: For those of you that still love your baseball team,

16
00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,160
Speaker 2: I'm kind of on the outs with mine right now.

17
00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:57,720
Speaker 2: You've got a full date of Major League Baseball action. Uh,

18
00:00:57,960 --> 00:00:59,240
Speaker 2: what's going on, buddy.

19
00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:05,520
Speaker 3: Last Sunday before the non official starts of summer. Mike,

20
00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,160
Speaker 3: that's what that's where we are. That's good We've been

21
00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,679
Speaker 3: able to make it this far, and it's a great weekend. Preakness.

22
00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:14,679
Speaker 3: Yesterday you mentioned all the actions in the NBA Isac

23
00:01:14,720 --> 00:01:17,760
Speaker 3: kating on the Stanley Cup. Laughs. I will be focused

24
00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:21,039
Speaker 3: on what happens at o' kill today and the PGA Championship.

25
00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,160
Speaker 3: That will be a majority. Uh, let's be honest, it's

26
00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,640
Speaker 3: actually gonna be all my attention today. Uh, game NBA

27
00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,920
Speaker 3: later on, I am focused on the golf. But great

28
00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:34,720
Speaker 3: time to be here, A lot to get to and uh,

29
00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:38,480
Speaker 3: maybe a day before the unofficial start of summer mic

30
00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:40,840
Speaker 3: where somebody can start making summer plans.

31
00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh, nicely done. I mean, in theory, you should have

32
00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,240
Speaker 2: booked those trips a while ago, because right now you're

33
00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,040
Speaker 2: gonna get gouge. Well, when it comes to the funny, I'm.

34
00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,400
Speaker 3: Not talking about you and I I'm talking about Lebron

35
00:01:51,480 --> 00:01:52,600
Speaker 3: James and Anthony Davis.

36
00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:56,200
Speaker 2: Oh oh oh one two three? Can kun all right?

37
00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:56,480
Speaker 3: One?

38
00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:00,560
Speaker 2: Nineteen one eight the final, the Nuggets take down the Lakers,

39
00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,640
Speaker 2: Game three. Now the Nuggets, Uh, the commanding three to

40
00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:09,400
Speaker 2: zero lead laughable over the course of the week, and look,

41
00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:13,000
Speaker 2: I get it. During the regular season, you're a casual

42
00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,840
Speaker 2: NBA fan, and perhaps you don't get to watch a

43
00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,440
Speaker 2: lot of Denver Nuggets basketball, Portland Trailblazers basketball. Somehow people

44
00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,919
Speaker 2: find the Lakers, somehow they find the Warriors. But these

45
00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:30,520
Speaker 2: other teams, they're mystery teams that nobody has seen. And

46
00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,520
Speaker 2: we saw that from people that actually work and cover

47
00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:36,480
Speaker 2: the league. Wow, I really didn't recognize. I was like,

48
00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,639
Speaker 2: what the hell are you even watching? What do they pay

49
00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:40,000
Speaker 2: you millions of dollars to do?

50
00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:44,120
Speaker 3: I love transparency. That was a little too much. That

51
00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,040
Speaker 3: was that was a little too much.

52
00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:48,480
Speaker 2: And it's not a niche sport that you're like, oh,

53
00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,440
Speaker 2: you know, you got we cover it, you know for

54
00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:52,880
Speaker 2: these two weeks of the year. I gotta go learn

55
00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:54,320
Speaker 2: how you know the people that are going to be

56
00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:55,640
Speaker 2: in the spelling Bee or something.

57
00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,000
Speaker 3: It does, it does, end, it does. I think put

58
00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,880
Speaker 3: uh a microscope on how we look at things with

59
00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:07,400
Speaker 3: MVP voting, because that was a big part of it. Sure,

60
00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,080
Speaker 3: how we look at these teams. Listen, I don't know

61
00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:15,200
Speaker 3: how many games the Lakers played on TNT and ESPN,

62
00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:20,520
Speaker 3: Slash ABC, those networks combined this year, but I guarantee

63
00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,920
Speaker 3: it was more than the Nuggets, right, and so understandably

64
00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:27,120
Speaker 3: so that people would see the Lakers more than the Nuggets.

65
00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,960
Speaker 3: But even if those who are locked in, to your

66
00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,240
Speaker 3: point of locked into the NBA or it's their job,

67
00:03:33,919 --> 00:03:36,520
Speaker 3: and aren't as in tune to what is going on

68
00:03:36,600 --> 00:03:41,120
Speaker 3: in Denver, which also then is likely other markets in

69
00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,880
Speaker 3: the NBA. Sure that becomes that becomes a problem when

70
00:03:45,880 --> 00:03:48,520
Speaker 3: you're looking at you know, voting on awards, voting on

71
00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,440
Speaker 3: first team, this second team, that that's where it really

72
00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:54,200
Speaker 3: becomes an issue.

73
00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:55,800
Speaker 2: So some of it, you know, save it for a

74
00:03:55,800 --> 00:04:00,200
Speaker 2: production meeting, save it for your incredulity, for the the

75
00:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,280
Speaker 2: coffee coffee bar at the place, and just be like,

76
00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,640
Speaker 2: all right, when we go on air talk about this

77
00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,160
Speaker 2: season that was, and you know, we're blessed. Smith and I.

78
00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:11,240
Speaker 2: During the course of the week our seven to eleven

79
00:04:11,280 --> 00:04:14,720
Speaker 2: PM Pacific show, we watched a lot of Nuggets basketball

80
00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:18,120
Speaker 2: through the year and got to watch Jamal Murray do

81
00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,360
Speaker 2: some incredible things, watch Michael Porter Junior and this cast

82
00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:26,160
Speaker 2: around Nikoley Jokic come together. And when you watched the

83
00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:30,279
Speaker 2: last night's game in particular, it was became the narrative

84
00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:34,080
Speaker 2: as you're watching Jamal Murray go insane in the first half,

85
00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,400
Speaker 2: finishing with thirty points almost hitting that shot at the

86
00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,479
Speaker 2: end of the half as well, where that was gonna

87
00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,480
Speaker 2: be the just throw your hands up and give up.

88
00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:48,320
Speaker 2: I mean, Jokic had an uneven first fourteen minutes, fouled

89
00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,000
Speaker 2: trouble and then had to sit down. Yeah, and in

90
00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:54,159
Speaker 2: seven and a half minutes of action, the Lakers only

91
00:04:54,880 --> 00:05:00,120
Speaker 2: changed the scoring by two points, Right, that's it. The

92
00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:03,000
Speaker 2: rest of the Nuggets held serve, did a good job,

93
00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:06,040
Speaker 2: and then down the stretch we had more of the

94
00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:10,400
Speaker 2: same role players and then Jokic, fresh from the long,

95
00:05:11,520 --> 00:05:15,080
Speaker 2: long opportunity to sit down, has a monster fourth quarter.

96
00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:20,360
Speaker 2: Murray still chipping in ordered junior KCP, coming back against

97
00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,960
Speaker 2: his old team and having some big moments that it

98
00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:27,880
Speaker 2: was just the barrage of players around Jokic that showed it,

99
00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,160
Speaker 2: which not one man squad, because I think the narrative

100
00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:32,200
Speaker 2: had started to become that it was one man squad.

101
00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,520
Speaker 2: And then Jamal Murray was this guy, Wow, what's his deal? Like, No,

102
00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:38,719
Speaker 2: he was a really good player. He just happened to

103
00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,440
Speaker 2: miss a lot of time being hurt. Yeah, he didn't

104
00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,200
Speaker 2: get the same grace as other guys like well, he was.

105
00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,440
Speaker 2: He missed a lot of time. So we have these expectations,

106
00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:49,480
Speaker 2: you know, we have to lower them for him. He

107
00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:50,799
Speaker 2: wasn't even on the radar.

108
00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,840
Speaker 3: I think that there's there was the opportunity for the

109
00:05:54,920 --> 00:06:00,400
Speaker 3: Lakers to really grab game three if Denver all allowed

110
00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,640
Speaker 3: them to. And that sounds very very simplistic, Mike, it's

111
00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,760
Speaker 3: not meant to be. But Jamal Murray was not going

112
00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:09,320
Speaker 3: to keep up the pace that he had in the

113
00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,159
Speaker 3: first half. That was not going to happen.

114
00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,800
Speaker 2: Well, he missed eight straight shots after a.

115
00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:17,960
Speaker 3: While, yeah, went yeah, and only had what seven points

116
00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:19,960
Speaker 3: in the in the second half, took him to the

117
00:06:20,000 --> 00:06:23,159
Speaker 3: fourth quarter I think to score, so that pace was

118
00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:27,560
Speaker 3: not going to keep up. It was Contavious Caldwell, Pope.

119
00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,880
Speaker 3: It was Michael Porter wasn't great last night. Michael Porter.

120
00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,920
Speaker 3: Junia wasn't great last night. But there were times where

121
00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:38,320
Speaker 3: he hit shots that were important shots. And that's what

122
00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,800
Speaker 3: you needed from Denver's You had him step up in

123
00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:44,680
Speaker 3: the time that they needed him to. Casep stepped up

124
00:06:44,720 --> 00:06:47,760
Speaker 3: and then in the end Jokic comes in and cleans

125
00:06:48,080 --> 00:06:51,520
Speaker 3: everything up, and that isn't That is an absolute team effort.

126
00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:53,560
Speaker 3: And when you look at what the Lakers got or

127
00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,720
Speaker 3: maybe didn't get from D'Angelo Russell. I think there's the

128
00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,279
Speaker 3: one possession we all remember. Or he shoots at three,

129
00:06:59,279 --> 00:07:02,080
Speaker 3: misses it, they the offensive rebound, get a rep bike

130
00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,000
Speaker 3: out to him and he misses again. Like it's I mean,

131
00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,360
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron and Ad and honestly, Austin Rivers can

132
00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:09,360
Speaker 3: only do so much.

133
00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, Austin Reeves.

134
00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,720
Speaker 3: Austin Reeves, Yeah yeah, And Austin Reeves can only do

135
00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:15,600
Speaker 3: so much. So when you look at what Denver is

136
00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:19,360
Speaker 3: as a whole, it's not twelve deep, but they got

137
00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,240
Speaker 3: like it was. It was a perfect night for them

138
00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,400
Speaker 3: in terms of k Jamal's gonna take the first quarter,

139
00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:27,200
Speaker 3: and then we're gonna have guys combined in the third quarter,

140
00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,880
Speaker 3: and then when Jokic finally kind of gets cleared of

141
00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,360
Speaker 3: his of his fall trouble towards the latter part of

142
00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:35,640
Speaker 3: the fourth quarter, then we'll be able to seal the deal.

143
00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:37,520
Speaker 3: And that's exactly what happened for them to go up

144
00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:38,000
Speaker 3: three to zero.

145
00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:40,440
Speaker 2: Now the long national night Maor is over, and that

146
00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,240
Speaker 2: Lebron James did hit a couple of three point shots.

147
00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:47,400
Speaker 2: You can tell even in the broadcast, he got the

148
00:07:47,480 --> 00:07:51,000
Speaker 2: the Bronx cheer a little bit once one finally went down.

149
00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,240
Speaker 2: But for the night three of nine, a couple of

150
00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,760
Speaker 2: bad I mean, look, he goes down, it goes down,

151
00:07:56,800 --> 00:07:59,320
Speaker 2: but in the moment as he's pulling up for the

152
00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:03,080
Speaker 2: next one, it's really are we pressing it now? You're

153
00:08:03,080 --> 00:08:05,880
Speaker 2: starting to feel it? You made made he goes back

154
00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:08,160
Speaker 2: to back. So and those were some of the worst

155
00:08:08,240 --> 00:08:12,520
Speaker 2: close out efforts. Like and Denver was really good in

156
00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:17,200
Speaker 2: terms of rotations and pressing. Much like we've given the

157
00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:21,920
Speaker 2: Lakers defense credit throughout the playoffs, and you know, I've

158
00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:24,160
Speaker 2: argued that with the Warriors, they had a lot of

159
00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:27,760
Speaker 2: open looks and missed, so that counts as a defensive

160
00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:30,760
Speaker 2: effort when it when it's all said and done, well,

161
00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,400
Speaker 2: they held him to this, all right. Clay Thompson couldn't shoot,

162
00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:38,840
Speaker 2: he was His jump shot was bad last round. Likewise,

163
00:08:38,880 --> 00:08:43,880
Speaker 2: here you've got sequencing where lebron James had all day

164
00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,640
Speaker 2: to set up to make said shots. I think they

165
00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,480
Speaker 2: were at a point where it's like, all right, if

166
00:08:48,480 --> 00:08:50,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna settle for that instead of driving into the lane.

167
00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:53,360
Speaker 2: You know, when we have foul trouble. You guys are

168
00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,880
Speaker 2: living at the line and all these things. You know,

169
00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:58,520
Speaker 2: you start to heat up, take your shot, you know

170
00:08:58,640 --> 00:08:58,960
Speaker 2: he did.

171
00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:01,679
Speaker 3: It's it's funny because I thought to myself and I

172
00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:03,680
Speaker 3: think we are at the point. And it's not meant

173
00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,720
Speaker 3: to be disrespectful. But if you were to draft these

174
00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,720
Speaker 3: two teams right now, for how they're playing, you would

175
00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:13,120
Speaker 3: take I think you would take Lebron fourth, and you

176
00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:15,720
Speaker 3: could take Jokic first, probably take a d second, then

177
00:09:15,800 --> 00:09:19,560
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray and then Lebron James probably right, and and

178
00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:24,480
Speaker 3: so like that, that in and of itself tells you

179
00:09:24,559 --> 00:09:27,079
Speaker 3: where the Lakers are. But you just mentioned the Warriors

180
00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:33,160
Speaker 3: and Warriors team this season completely different to the one

181
00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:37,440
Speaker 3: last season for a lot of different reasons. However, some

182
00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,240
Speaker 3: of the names were the same. And so now you

183
00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:43,679
Speaker 3: look at Denver and you look at what Milwaukee did

184
00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:52,000
Speaker 3: two years ago. You take these last three, but Denver

185
00:09:52,080 --> 00:09:53,960
Speaker 3: because the best record in the West. But let's just

186
00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:58,000
Speaker 3: let's just say Denver wins it all like this going.

187
00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:00,800
Speaker 3: I never thought that the Big Three was a real thing, Mike,

188
00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:04,480
Speaker 3: And like to be able to build a championship team,

189
00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:06,680
Speaker 3: you don't know if it's gonna be a champ. You

190
00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:09,880
Speaker 3: think that you have the pieces. Denver has the star.

191
00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:15,320
Speaker 3: H Murray plays a great robin to Yogaj's batman and

192
00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,200
Speaker 3: at times really does need to save the day, you know,

193
00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:21,160
Speaker 3: but they've got It's not a it's not a great team,

194
00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:24,120
Speaker 3: but they seem to be a full team. Bruce Brown

195
00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:28,080
Speaker 3: had a nice night last night, and I just it's

196
00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,959
Speaker 3: what pushed the Lakers. They seem to be more full.

197
00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,040
Speaker 3: So when we sit there, we look at stars and

198
00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:34,880
Speaker 3: what a week it was to talk about stars and

199
00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,840
Speaker 3: legends in the NBA, you know, the constructing of these

200
00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:41,720
Speaker 3: rosters and teams and trying to it and again is

201
00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:44,320
Speaker 3: moving away from the let's just have two really good

202
00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,160
Speaker 3: players and see how it works out. Look At how

203
00:10:46,200 --> 00:10:47,959
Speaker 3: it worked out for the Suns. Look at how it

204
00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,840
Speaker 3: worked out for the Mavericks. You know it didn't. And

205
00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,720
Speaker 3: so maybe that's the way what you know, the message

206
00:10:52,760 --> 00:10:54,920
Speaker 3: that we really do need to take in this NBA

207
00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:57,480
Speaker 3: is Okay, you can have one one super star and

208
00:10:57,480 --> 00:10:59,120
Speaker 3: if you have another one that's you know, really down

209
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:01,040
Speaker 3: close to it next door, but you are going to

210
00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,280
Speaker 3: have to fill it out one through eight, one through

211
00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,360
Speaker 3: nine to win a title, and I think I think

212
00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,280
Speaker 3: what we've seen over these last couple of years lends

213
00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:12,320
Speaker 3: credence to that. Even with the enormous superstar names of

214
00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,360
Speaker 3: Steph Curry, Giannis and in this case Nicola Jokic.

215
00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,320
Speaker 2: He's Dan Byron, Mike Carbon. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

216
00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,880
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Trading. You can find Dan on Twitter at

217
00:11:20,960 --> 00:11:23,880
Speaker 2: Dan Byron Fox. Find me over at Swollen Dome. Plenty

218
00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:25,960
Speaker 2: going on today. We'll have a guest from the PGA

219
00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,360
Speaker 2: to come hang out with us a little bit later

220
00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,760
Speaker 2: on in the show. One of the great stories also

221
00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,880
Speaker 2: for the weekend coming out of the PGA Championship that

222
00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,079
Speaker 2: will apprise you of and kind of break that down

223
00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:40,720
Speaker 2: as well. But I got two narratives coming out of

224
00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:44,120
Speaker 2: where this series is that I want to get your

225
00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:48,200
Speaker 2: thoughts and all of yours America at Swollen Dome. Reminder,

226
00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,200
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday brought to you by Progressive Insurance Progress

227
00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,079
Speaker 2: It makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy

228
00:11:54,080 --> 00:11:57,640
Speaker 2: discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more

229
00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:00,400
Speaker 2: all your production of one place bundle and say at

230
00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,959
Speaker 2: Progressive dot Com, Yeah that's right. One narrative up. One

231
00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,120
Speaker 2: narrative down. I kind of hate them both. We'll talk

232
00:12:07,160 --> 00:12:10,640
Speaker 2: about it next year on Fox Welcome back in Fox

233
00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:16,000
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio, Mike Harmon alongside Dan Bayer

234
00:12:16,120 --> 00:12:18,640
Speaker 2: having a blast with you, just getting warmed up wherever

235
00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:21,840
Speaker 2: you may be, however you're listening, all the different ways

236
00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:25,880
Speaker 2: to consume the product. Foxsports Radio dot Com, Serious XM

237
00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:30,960
Speaker 2: Channel eighty three, all our affiliates four hundred plus nation wide.

238
00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,200
Speaker 2: Thank you program directors and for all those allowing us

239
00:12:35,240 --> 00:12:37,400
Speaker 2: to be part of the lineups there. Of course, on

240
00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:39,520
Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app, you can take us wherever you go.

241
00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:44,120
Speaker 2: It's free, download it, subscribe. There the podcasts that are

242
00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,160
Speaker 2: up wherever you get your audio. I mean all of

243
00:12:46,200 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 2: these things on the highways and byways of life. Out

244
00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,280
Speaker 2: for the walk with the dog. Maybe just taking a

245
00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,880
Speaker 2: few minutes yourself. Maybe we are that moment of zen

246
00:12:54,040 --> 00:12:57,120
Speaker 2: that you need to get your day started. How's that?

247
00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:58,560
Speaker 2: Is that too presumptuous of me?

248
00:12:58,679 --> 00:13:02,360
Speaker 3: I would love it if they could just take your

249
00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:04,959
Speaker 3: voice in my voice and then connect it with Sunday Morning.

250
00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,160
Speaker 3: Like if you're listening when you hear our voices together,

251
00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,959
Speaker 3: you know it's Sunday Morning or it's football season. One

252
00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,880
Speaker 3: of the two that is true. That is true the

253
00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:15,319
Speaker 3: I Watch a Flex podcast.

254
00:13:15,880 --> 00:13:17,840
Speaker 2: That was a nice segue that was really well done,

255
00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:22,360
Speaker 2: the podcast Dan Bayer and I do you find where again?

256
00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,600
Speaker 2: Wherever you get your audio download and give it five stars,

257
00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:27,240
Speaker 2: will love you forever. You may have missed giving it

258
00:13:27,320 --> 00:13:29,199
Speaker 2: out as a gift on Mother's Day, don't worry. Father's

259
00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:31,960
Speaker 2: Day is coming up, and it's the beginning of summer,

260
00:13:32,000 --> 00:13:35,160
Speaker 2: as you said, unofficially next week. So how about that

261
00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,440
Speaker 2: gift that keeps on giving, keeping you a prize as

262
00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,920
Speaker 2: you're out and about chasing the kids or just creating

263
00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,079
Speaker 2: some chaos for yourself. We appreciate you. However, you're listening,

264
00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:46,559
Speaker 2: all right, So two narratives, one for each team that

265
00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:49,960
Speaker 2: just kind of annoy me. You want to go Lakers

266
00:13:50,040 --> 00:13:50,880
Speaker 2: or Nuggets first?

267
00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,480
Speaker 3: Let's go Nuggets first.

268
00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:55,880
Speaker 2: A right, So we'll go with the victors first, up

269
00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:00,679
Speaker 2: three games to none, Owen one hundred and four nine, Right,

270
00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:02,800
Speaker 2: that's the record. That's the number. You're gonna see a

271
00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,600
Speaker 2: bunch between now and Monday night in terms of teams

272
00:14:05,640 --> 00:14:09,760
Speaker 2: being down three to zero in a series. So all

273
00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:13,080
Speaker 2: all the questions last night to Lebron about Hey, you

274
00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,520
Speaker 2: know you've done a lot of first wouldn't it be cool?

275
00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:18,280
Speaker 2: It's like almost like someone was writing a script for

276
00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:23,200
Speaker 2: some of those some of those questions being posed to

277
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:24,280
Speaker 2: Lebron James.

278
00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:26,400
Speaker 3: But executive producer Arian.

279
00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:30,360
Speaker 2: Foster nicely done, Fino getting after it. But the idea

280
00:14:30,440 --> 00:14:34,240
Speaker 2: that you know, you've got the Lakers and for the

281
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:39,240
Speaker 2: Nuggets at this point, their success not anything about what

282
00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:43,160
Speaker 2: we just talked about, the seven men, eight men, tight rotation,

283
00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:47,800
Speaker 2: secondary players coming up with big shots in big moments.

284
00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,160
Speaker 2: KCP Gordon and his energy. We didn't get into him,

285
00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,720
Speaker 2: but he's been active on both ends of the court,

286
00:14:54,760 --> 00:15:00,280
Speaker 2: helping to run, run the break and everything else. With Yokich,

287
00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:04,200
Speaker 2: but the fact that we had so many injuries over

288
00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:07,800
Speaker 2: the course of the year, the Nuggets are being discredited

289
00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,240
Speaker 2: as a team that just happened to survive through it

290
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,640
Speaker 2: as opposed to playing a full season as the number

291
00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,080
Speaker 2: one seed and getting to this point. Now, injuries are

292
00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:22,920
Speaker 2: part of every season, right We see star players with

293
00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:27,240
Speaker 2: load management combined with injuries, so you you know, you

294
00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:29,520
Speaker 2: massage the term a little bit. It's like, well, you

295
00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,640
Speaker 2: needed a little more rest because he's coming off of

296
00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:35,840
Speaker 2: XYZ or the secondary guys xy you know doing this

297
00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,760
Speaker 2: that you're sitting on a Nuggets team at this point

298
00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:44,240
Speaker 2: that in the post game, and perhaps it was bitter

299
00:15:44,400 --> 00:15:47,400
Speaker 2: Laker fans. I didn't run a tallly of it, as

300
00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:51,000
Speaker 2: you know, starting to grab notes for today's show, but

301
00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:54,440
Speaker 2: it became an awful lot about Wow, I mean they're healthy,

302
00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:58,360
Speaker 2: so yeah, of course they're winning. About some credit for

303
00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,680
Speaker 2: the actual ability well, yeah, to stay on the court,

304
00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:06,200
Speaker 2: but to make adjustments. Michael Malone does protest and get

305
00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:09,760
Speaker 2: a little chesty uh and kind of weird iness press conferences.

306
00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:11,760
Speaker 2: But that's fine, it's content for all of us. But

307
00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:16,320
Speaker 2: the dismissal of oh yeah, well they're just healthy, so yeah,

308
00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,800
Speaker 2: they're gonna run through. That's part of the game, is

309
00:16:18,840 --> 00:16:21,200
Speaker 2: being available and being on a court.

310
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:25,840
Speaker 3: And don't they have the opportunity to play their trump

311
00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,920
Speaker 3: card of well we didn't have Jamal Murray all last

312
00:16:28,960 --> 00:16:31,920
Speaker 3: year like so like so you want to talk about it, Yeah,

313
00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:35,120
Speaker 3: you want to talk about like like injuries in how

314
00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:38,240
Speaker 3: they've dealt with nobody was nobody was running to the

315
00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:42,760
Speaker 3: Nuggets defense last year in playing without Jamal Murray with

316
00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:48,360
Speaker 3: his knee injury. No one was doing that. The conversation was, okay, Jokich,

317
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:53,760
Speaker 3: two time MVP. Now Nuggets fail in the playoffs, They'll

318
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,480
Speaker 3: always fail. I don't trust Denver. It is it is.

319
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,760
Speaker 3: You're exactly right, Mike, it is. It is very unfair.

320
00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:05,480
Speaker 3: And I feel like this stems from when Phoenix, you know,

321
00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:09,080
Speaker 3: went on there, went on their run to the NBA Finals,

322
00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:13,560
Speaker 3: when uh, you know, Kawhi got hurt and there were

323
00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:16,560
Speaker 3: just a bunch of domino effects that ended up playing

324
00:17:16,560 --> 00:17:20,159
Speaker 3: out where they ended up making the NBA Finals, And

325
00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:23,439
Speaker 3: you're saying, Okay, well, you know this is the reason

326
00:17:23,480 --> 00:17:26,640
Speaker 3: why they were Was it Anthey? Was was it ad

327
00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:29,480
Speaker 3: that got hurt in the first round? You know, in

328
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,040
Speaker 3: the in the Lakers series? Like so like it's those

329
00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,480
Speaker 3: events that you try to connect from the past and

330
00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,320
Speaker 3: say that that's the oh, this is this team. This

331
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,199
Speaker 3: team did it again because it's just in your recent memory.

332
00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:46,000
Speaker 3: But if you really had a recent memory, you'd point

333
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,439
Speaker 3: to Denver playing without Jamal Murray last season.

334
00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would, you know, stip be like coming into

335
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:52,880
Speaker 2: the playoffs, if you wanted to just say, hey, it's

336
00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:58,359
Speaker 2: a a ball of unknowns because Denver playing in the

337
00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,280
Speaker 2: playoffs with all of these composed in parts and again

338
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,639
Speaker 2: short bench right. For as much as we've talked about

339
00:18:04,760 --> 00:18:07,399
Speaker 2: Phoenix and what happened to them after the trade, not

340
00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:10,840
Speaker 2: like Michael Malone's running twelve guys out there, right, generally

341
00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,280
Speaker 2: two or three guys are seeing all the minutes off

342
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,719
Speaker 2: the bench, and that you know, Brown has been so

343
00:18:15,880 --> 00:18:20,080
Speaker 2: active and such a contributor that maybe he said you

344
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 2: would feel when you read bench totals for them that

345
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,840
Speaker 2: it must have come from multiple places, but it's.

346
00:18:26,680 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 3: Not, which makes you know, Murray's minutes load even more impressive, right,

347
00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,199
Speaker 3: forty two last night, forty three in game two, I

348
00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,760
Speaker 3: agree with you, Mike, that is a stupid narrative should

349
00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:38,600
Speaker 3: be thrown out the window.

350
00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:40,480
Speaker 2: Well, you and I, you know, talking a little bit

351
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 2: off air, right, I mean every year it seems to

352
00:18:43,080 --> 00:18:46,240
Speaker 2: be how how do we chop a guy down? And

353
00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:49,200
Speaker 2: and we do this in every format, right the build

354
00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,679
Speaker 2: up and then let's let's chip away if we if

355
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,600
Speaker 2: we want to do that for the nice like, we'll

356
00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:59,280
Speaker 2: just say. Well, the Lakers end of year schedule that

357
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:05,200
Speaker 2: allowed the high defensive rating was fugazy because they played

358
00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:07,520
Speaker 2: a bunch of bomb teams You can't have it both ways.

359
00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:10,080
Speaker 2: You can't tell me how great their defense is and

360
00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:13,480
Speaker 2: then watch the Nuggets carve them up and be like, oh, well,

361
00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,960
Speaker 2: you know, hey, what are you gonna do? It happens, right,

362
00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,920
Speaker 2: It can't and not credit them for the efficiency from

363
00:19:22,040 --> 00:19:25,879
Speaker 2: Jokic and everybody else stepping into their respective roles. Man

364
00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:30,360
Speaker 2: Jokicic had the off game yesterday and he's still finished

365
00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:31,920
Speaker 2: with twenty four, six and eight.

366
00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,240
Speaker 3: Sure, And I think with the you know, with the

367
00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:37,520
Speaker 3: Lakers and how they have played in this series when

368
00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:39,800
Speaker 3: you look at the three games now, because I think

369
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:42,080
Speaker 3: it was I think it was difficult. I found it

370
00:19:42,119 --> 00:19:45,720
Speaker 3: funny in hearing people reason the different ways that the

371
00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:48,199
Speaker 3: Nuggets or the Lakers were in the good position in

372
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,399
Speaker 3: Game two. And I know Mike Malone thinks the national

373
00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,960
Speaker 3: media was only talking about how the Lakers were in

374
00:19:52,960 --> 00:19:56,280
Speaker 3: a good position after Game one. But I did hear

375
00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:58,640
Speaker 3: it both ways when you just see how last night

376
00:19:58,760 --> 00:20:04,200
Speaker 3: really play out. Last night was the real opportunity on

377
00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,320
Speaker 3: the road in La, in front of that arena that

378
00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:12,359
Speaker 3: was ready and to have the lead that they did

379
00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,240
Speaker 3: fourteen points and then lose it and then be able

380
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:17,399
Speaker 3: to turn it on in the fourth quarter like they did.

381
00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:20,760
Speaker 3: That's a tip of the cap moment. That's not a

382
00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,399
Speaker 3: well so and so was injured moment. Chris Paul was

383
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:26,600
Speaker 3: hurt when we all, you know, in the in the

384
00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 3: previous series. Like, if that's what you want to bring

385
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,480
Speaker 3: up with the Denver Nuggets, then go right ahead. But

386
00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,920
Speaker 3: that's the only injury that they've had to deal with

387
00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: right now.

388
00:20:35,680 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, once again, settling for three point shots got a

389
00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800
Speaker 2: little bit of run for a rant I had the

390
00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:43,840
Speaker 2: other night about it, the fact that if you're going

391
00:20:43,920 --> 00:20:48,719
Speaker 2: to keep chucking threes, as the Lakers have done throughout

392
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 2: this series, you only got one or two guys that

393
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,040
Speaker 2: can consistently hit a three point shot right way, time

394
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 2: and time again, Austin Reeves. And that's where this goes

395
00:20:58,280 --> 00:21:01,880
Speaker 2: into the next year's narrative. Because Austin Reeves ain't gonna

396
00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 2: be there. Someone else is going to give him more money,

397
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,840
Speaker 2: Like he's got to decide whether being a Laker has

398
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 2: more intrinsic value than finding a bigger contract somewhere else.

399
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 2: But we'll get to that in a minute. The narrative

400
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,080
Speaker 2: that bugs me with the Lakers is going into the

401
00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:21,119
Speaker 2: concept of house money and well, I mean, they weren't

402
00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 2: supposed to be here. They were in disrat and they

403
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,840
Speaker 2: have Lebron James and Anthony Davis, both of whom are healthy,

404
00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,919
Speaker 2: with the exception of the occasional rolling on the floor

405
00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:31,240
Speaker 2: for a second say hey, my ankle's hurt, and then

406
00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 2: getting back up and running around, you know, like you're

407
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:37,040
Speaker 2: twenty five years old for the next five minutes thereafter.

408
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 2: But they're healthy. You made a bunch of changes at

409
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,960
Speaker 2: the deadline. You didn't give up, you didn't punt on

410
00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 2: the season, for all the troubles, for all the early

411
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,639
Speaker 2: issues that they had. When it all comes down to it,

412
00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,040
Speaker 2: Rob Polenka goes and makes the move, and people are

413
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:57,920
Speaker 2: celebrating the move and the aforementioned success down the stretch,

414
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 2: great defensive ratings, and what they were able to do

415
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,920
Speaker 2: to get into the playoffs. They vanquished the big, bad,

416
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: defending champion Warriors. And then it became a were you

417
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 2: gonna celebrate what the Lakers were doing or are you're

418
00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,720
Speaker 2: gonna talk about the dysfunction of the Warriors. Most picked

419
00:22:13,760 --> 00:22:15,679
Speaker 2: the other land. It's like, was it the punch of

420
00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:19,760
Speaker 2: Draymond Green on Jordan Poole that derailed this. Yeah, that

421
00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 2: thing that happened seven months ago, that's the thing. You're

422
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,679
Speaker 2: telling me that that's the problem now, as opposed to

423
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 2: he can't defend and he can't hit a shot.

424
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:28,720
Speaker 4: I do.

425
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000
Speaker 3: I do think that it had an effect, but that's

426
00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 3: a completely different story, like.

427
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well we could do. I don't think they were

428
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:39,880
Speaker 2: cohesive in any way, shape or form. But you can't

429
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,080
Speaker 2: tell me all of a sudden that cropped up in

430
00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 2: the second round of the playoffs where something you know

431
00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: what that was the disconnect.

432
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:49,120
Speaker 3: Well, I feel that the win over the Warriors by

433
00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,720
Speaker 3: the Lakers was what solidified in people looking at the

434
00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 3: Lakers now as a team that could win an NBA title.

435
00:22:55,720 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 3: Look at it, Hey, they got past the defending champs.

436
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,280
Speaker 3: To be the champ, you gotta beat the champ. You

437
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 3: could use all those cliches. I think what this is

438
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:07,640
Speaker 3: revealed is maybe how good the Warriors weren't. And I'm

439
00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,919
Speaker 3: talking about this Lakers Nuggets series for Denver to be

440
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,760
Speaker 3: able to figure out a way because the Warriors couldn't

441
00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,639
Speaker 3: crack the code, and the Nuggets have won three games

442
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:23,080
Speaker 3: in this series really in three different ways. In essence,

443
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:26,639
Speaker 3: like the Lakers you know, in Game one came back,

444
00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:28,679
Speaker 3: but last night they came all the way back and

445
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 3: did it early enough where you still had ball game

446
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,439
Speaker 3: to play. It wasn't you know, will time catch you

447
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 3: and will time run out? So I think that that

448
00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:40,720
Speaker 3: sort of conversation and looking at this series lends to

449
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:45,320
Speaker 3: what the Warriors had. But you're right, Mike, I felt

450
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:48,280
Speaker 3: that the Lakers fans were in quite the conundrum because

451
00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:51,080
Speaker 3: I never thought that they were a championship team, but

452
00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:56,919
Speaker 3: it is a team that prides itself on championships and

453
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:01,080
Speaker 3: not to bring Giannison Deta Koobe go into this and

454
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:07,160
Speaker 3: the failure conversation, but what is this for the Lakers? Really?

455
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,879
Speaker 3: What is it for Lebron? Because Yannis and explaining in

456
00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 3: what he in what he did, like it or not,

457
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 3: took over fifty years of the franchise. But now we're

458
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 3: talking about Lebron James and his legacy, his career and

459
00:24:20,840 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 3: what this does. Does this just fall into another one

460
00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,199
Speaker 3: that didn't work out? Is this now the end? Is

461
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,680
Speaker 3: this the Is this the bat signal that this thing

462
00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:33,600
Speaker 3: is over with? Can they make a move in the

463
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 3: offseason to better this team? I think that there are

464
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:41,720
Speaker 3: a lot of questions, and I think that you're you're

465
00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:46,040
Speaker 3: right in the in the reasoning of being annoyed by it,

466
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:49,920
Speaker 3: because to me, it was different from March to April

467
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:52,880
Speaker 3: to May, and here we now are nearing the end

468
00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 3: of May and it's gone back and forth. I think

469
00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 3: it is I think it should be a disappointment considering

470
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,640
Speaker 3: of what you said. Off the top, you have two

471
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 3: of the top players in the league. I don't know

472
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 3: where Lebron is rank wise now. It's not number one, obviously,

473
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 3: but you get this far. You had opportunities to win

474
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: Game one, probably should have won Game two, and you

475
00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 3: led a team in Game three slip away. I think

476
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: you're a hundred percent spot on Mike. Right.

477
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: Last round, they went and snatched games from the Warriors.

478
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 2: Right for whatever, you had a couple of blowouts in

479
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,520
Speaker 2: that series, but they went and took two games that

480
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,119
Speaker 2: the Warriors had leads in the fourth quarter. They chased

481
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 2: them down, They played effish at basketball, and they made

482
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 2: the plays down the stretch and the Warriors didn't. And

483
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 2: we're now to believe in the next rounds like, ah,

484
00:25:42,119 --> 00:25:44,600
Speaker 2: they're just overmatched. What are you gonna do? It was

485
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: a hell of a run. But it's it's like, no,

486
00:25:47,480 --> 00:25:49,480
Speaker 2: you made a bunch of changes. You could have thrown

487
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,719
Speaker 2: up a white flag, because what was the narrative around

488
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, right, you remember it? Well, the front office

489
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,200
Speaker 2: isn't acquiescing to what Lebron James and company want. They said,

490
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:03,600
Speaker 2: you created this monster, You're just gonna have to play

491
00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:06,040
Speaker 2: with it. And then what did they do? They shuffled

492
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 2: things up down the stretch, brought in a bunch of players,

493
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 2: Ruy Hachima, who's given them some big moments, Austin Reeves,

494
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 2: who's like a lottery ticket. The way the guy has

495
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: come in in place. Now he gets reckless at times.

496
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell, as you mentioned earlier at the start of

497
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: the show, a bunch of shots that just aren't falling,

498
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,520
Speaker 2: and it wasn't able to give you the same juice. Right,

499
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 2: He hit that first shot and I was like, all right,

500
00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:34,639
Speaker 2: different night. That was the only shot he.

501
00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:37,960
Speaker 5: Made right the entire night.

502
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 2: He ends up going one of eight for the night,

503
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 2: one of six from three point range. But he hit

504
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:46,760
Speaker 2: his first shot. And if you could take a still

505
00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: shot of timelines from people you follow that cover the NBA, like, oh,

506
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 2: that's a huge shot D'Angelo Russell. He had to get

507
00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 2: off early. That was it, right, We were in the

508
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 2: moment of yeah that hey that it wasn't there for them.

509
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 3: We had seen him, you know, get hot early, had

510
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: a couple of big games, yes.

511
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 2: To help them propel them to this point. But the

512
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 2: concept of house money, you know, that's when you have

513
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 2: the point two percent chance in a lottery and you

514
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 2: walk away with a huge check to say, all of

515
00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:23,240
Speaker 2: a sudden, wow, you know, it was a really great year.

516
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: It's like, no, it's another year on the legs of

517
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: Davis and James and the franchise where those guys were healthy,

518
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 2: were able to give you heavy minutes and the field

519
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,879
Speaker 2: opened up right. Denver's still there, But everything else that

520
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 2: could happen around you again owing to you take advantage

521
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:44,399
Speaker 2: of the opportunities that are there for you, and you

522
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 2: either succeed or you fail.

523
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 3: Here's where I also think that the Lakers are different,

524
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 3: not only in what their fans expect and what their

525
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,560
Speaker 3: team expects. And it's not an arrogant statement. It's a

526
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: team that talks about championships and really one of the

527
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:03,200
Speaker 3: few organizations Mike that are grated on their championships when

528
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: you look at a team, Denver's the perfect example. I

529
00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,359
Speaker 3: think you can do it with Boston in the East

530
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,359
Speaker 3: as well. It's you know, Boston falls short in the

531
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:15,200
Speaker 3: NBA finals last year with a great run through the playoffs.

532
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 3: Now the next expectation is, all right, win an NBA title.

533
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 3: Denver's not gotten to an NBA finals. Bring it back

534
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 3: to Giannis's point of like, you're taking steps in this

535
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: whole process because the timeline of Lebron and realistically Anthony

536
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: Davis just because of his injury history is such an

537
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 3: unknown in so short, this can't be considered a building block.

538
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 3: It's not how it's operated on Boston. You could last

539
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,240
Speaker 3: year Tatum and Brown get a taste to the finals.

540
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 3: Guess what, all right, now you add Malcolm Brogden take

541
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 3: away the coaching situation, which is we'll talk about.

542
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,160
Speaker 2: Later, but we got we got that coming up.

543
00:28:57,200 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, like there's there's building blocks, there's so you

544
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 3: got this far. Now, you got this far, even the Mavericks,

545
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 3: you know, like, oh, conference finals too. Now not making

546
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 3: the playoffs, You're like, okay, it's part of the process.

547
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 3: Because of Lebron's time in LA and it likely being

548
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:15,520
Speaker 3: so short and what they've got together, this isn't considered

549
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,400
Speaker 3: a building block, and you just talked about it. Austin

550
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 3: reeves this future this is That's where other teams I

551
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 3: think could say, all right, you know, happy to be there.

552
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 3: Moving on. Sacramento Kings perfect example. They've got something to

553
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: build on. All right. We made the playoffs, we ended

554
00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:34,600
Speaker 3: the playoff draut, We took Golden State to seven games

555
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 3: next year? How about conference semis er conference finals. That

556
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 3: would be a great leap for the Sacramento Kings. The

557
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 3: Lakers are one of the few teams, maybe the only

558
00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 3: team that just doesn't have the opportunity to do that. Well.

559
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: See, and that's what would be a question to raise

560
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 2: about the NBA as a whole, given the portability we'll

561
00:29:55,480 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 2: use that term, and the mobility of players to decid,

562
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 2: you know what I'm done, and to to bail after

563
00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 2: a year or two, especially the you know, the veterans

564
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: that are now we see it's musical chairs, right, this

565
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: guy's gonna go back here, this guy's gonna go here.

566
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 2: This guy wants to trade out, and I don't be

567
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 2: drudge him. Right, If you have that kind of flexibility

568
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: in your life and that kind of power that you wield,

569
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: everybody would would love to do that. Hey I want

570
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 2: to go live here and go play with my friends.

571
00:30:25,360 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 2: You can make that happen in the NBA, probably easier

572
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 2: than and facilitate that than any other league, right, I

573
00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 2: mean Kevin Durant, it was all, he's going to Phoenix,

574
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 2: He's gonna end up in Phoenix. Well, they're the only one.

575
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:39,360
Speaker 2: They still gave up a ton of stuff to bring

576
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: him over, including those for unprotected and guys that help

577
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 2: Brooklyn get to the playoffs. But just the point being that,

578
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: like the honest talk to me was more. I mean

579
00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 2: that's old school. I mean it's an old school thought.

580
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:59,040
Speaker 2: But certainly for the NBA, you held guys together to

581
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 2: where you had those bills holding blocks together. I don't

582
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,200
Speaker 2: know that you necessarily get that luxury in most plays.

583
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 2: Like Sacramento is an interesting spot because most of their

584
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 2: guys are young, so they get they get a little

585
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,440
Speaker 2: bit to where there's probably another year or two before

586
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 2: everybody wants to go be their own. Man.

587
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 3: I think I actually just disagree in the sense of

588
00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 3: because I think that there are denvers. I think there

589
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: are Sacramentos. I think that there are Milwaukee's, you know,

590
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 3: I almost put Philadelphia in that same sort of you know, conversation.

591
00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:40,440
Speaker 3: The movement of the players moving around is it feels

592
00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: like it's a smaller group than it is. But we

593
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 3: pay so much attention to the to that group. So

594
00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,120
Speaker 3: the movement that you're gonna get, maybe you're not gonna

595
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 3: get eight guys moving. But I do think we because

596
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,400
Speaker 3: we do focus so much on Kevin Durant, so much

597
00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 3: on the bron James, so much on Kyrie Irving, so

598
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,400
Speaker 3: much on those James Harden, who's gonna be on the

599
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: move again. Sure, we focus on those guys and think

600
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 3: of it, but I do I do think that there

601
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 3: are there are pieces that you have to learn and

602
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: you have to realize. I think Dirk and Dallas, you know,

603
00:32:12,040 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 3: for example, of you know, it's so much is made

604
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 3: about the title that they won in twenty eleven, but

605
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 3: the title that they lost in two thousand and six

606
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 3: to the Heat almost in a weird way, validates the

607
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: title that they won because it was it's not just

608
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 3: a one off like it made it there twice, And

609
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 3: I think the Bucks can do the same thing, you know,

610
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 3: if jannest Leed's Milwaukee there say next year, Jokic is

611
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 3: the same with Denver. I think you're gonna have these

612
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,479
Speaker 3: building blocks and be able to look at it as

613
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: a whole mic. But there may be hiccups, like you know,

614
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: losing in the first round the Golden State last year

615
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: like Denver did, or like Milwaukee did this year and

616
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 3: losing to the heat, and to see how they respond

617
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,239
Speaker 3: to it, there could be lessons learned as we look

618
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: at it as a whole. I just don't know how

619
00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:56,560
Speaker 3: much hole there is for the Lakers because of the

620
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: short timeline Lebron has in his career.

621
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 2: He's Dan Bayra. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports

622
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 2: Radio from the Tyrak dot com studios. Now let's kick

623
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 2: it over to our guy, Isaac Lowincron get an update

624
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 2: and what's trending in our sporting universe.

625
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 6: Morning foulas and what continues to trend. Indeed, Game three

626
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 6: of the West Finals on Saturday night, Denver defeating the

627
00:33:16,200 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 6: Lakers in LA one nineteen to one, to wait for

628
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 6: a three games to then lead behind thirty seven from

629
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 6: Jamaal Murray and who better is always than to capture

630
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 6: the aftermath of a Los Angeles Lakers game than a

631
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 6: Magic Johnson tweet. After the game, he posted, and I quote,

632
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,840
Speaker 6: I have to apologize to Denver. They prove that they

633
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,720
Speaker 6: are a better and more talented team in their victory

634
00:33:39,760 --> 00:33:42,880
Speaker 6: over the Lakers. They put both teams in the Eastern

635
00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 6: Conference on notice that they are committed to winning a championship.

636
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:51,640
Speaker 6: Exclamation point anyway. Among the comments below, Mark tweeting and

637
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 6: I quote they're the one seed bra and Scary Terry commenting,

638
00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 6: I can't wait to get these tweets after Commanders games Eddieway.

639
00:34:01,440 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 6: In Game two of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals, the

640
00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:08,239
Speaker 6: Florida Panthers won at Carolina in overtime again to take

641
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:11,280
Speaker 6: a two games to non lead. Matthew Kuchuk the game

642
00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 6: winning goal again, this time the game winner won fifty

643
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,360
Speaker 6: one into overtime after he scored the game winner in

644
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 6: the fourth overtime of Game one, final round of the

645
00:34:20,680 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 6: PGA Championship Underway, brooks Koepka a one shot lead at

646
00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 6: six under par overall, Victor Hovelin and Corey Connors are

647
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 6: at five under. They allt off around two thirty Eastern

648
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:34,400
Speaker 6: time today and in major League Baseball. On Saturday night,

649
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 6: the Boston Red Sox weet the Padres in San Diego

650
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 6: four to two. Chris Sale allowed three hits and seven

651
00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:43,319
Speaker 6: innings with eight strikeouts. The Padres on a four game

652
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 6: losing streak and have lost eleven of their last thirteen

653
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,400
Speaker 6: twins over the Angels in Anaheim, six to two, Minnesota's

654
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 6: Joey Gallow homering for the fourth time in seven games.

655
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 2: Fellas all yours, thanks so much, Isaac. At Isaac Lowenkron,

656
00:34:56,640 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 2: he called a thrilling nil nil game yesterday.

657
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 3: Did we get any YadA YadA yadas for three? All three?

658
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 6: I'm so humiliated, and you would think would radio history,

659
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 6: you would you would think I'd have time to duck

660
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,759
Speaker 6: that in in a scoreless tie.

661
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 2: Seemed like there would have been some filibustering that could

662
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 2: have been done.

663
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 6: And YadA YadA YadA rhymes with nada nada, so I

664
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,120
Speaker 6: could have put it in that way in hindsight.

665
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 2: YadA YadA. To recap the game, YadA YadA, YadA, we

666
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: got nada NADAA And.

667
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 3: If you're just joining us, we've tried to get Isaac

668
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: to say things during his broadcast for Angel Angel City

669
00:35:36,360 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 3: and we are over three.

670
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,520
Speaker 2: It's okay at Isaac Lohancron is where you can find

671
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 2: him on Twitter, Dan Byer, Me, Mike Carbon Here, Fox

672
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio One. N NFL owner has

673
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 2: well at least one Hall of Fame quarterback scratching his

674
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,800
Speaker 2: head as well as the rest of the NFL universe.

675
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 2: We'll tell you why next here on Fox Welcome back

676
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: in Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday. My garment, Dan

677
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 2: Bayer with you here live from the Progressive Insurance. Yeah,

678
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 2: that's right, Progressive Insurance bringing you Fox Sports Sunday to

679
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,800
Speaker 2: make bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount

680
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all

681
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,839
Speaker 2: your protection of one place. Bundle and save at Progressive

682
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:19,800
Speaker 2: dot Com.

683
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: Dan.

684
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,120
Speaker 2: As we look ahead, we're still you know what, have

685
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 2: we got one hundred plus days until the NFL season starts.

686
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 2: Plenty of roadmap for the next season of the Eyewatcherflex Podcast.

687
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 2: Maybe we'll start doing some more random lists thrown therein

688
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:41,560
Speaker 2: for the socials and for garnering some content like Jim

689
00:36:41,600 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 2: Orsay gave us in a tweet that he put out

690
00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 2: with the passing of Jim Brown at the age of

691
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: eighty seven. Complicated life overall, a lot of good, some

692
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 2: clouds and missteps and the other it's the totality of

693
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:01,320
Speaker 2: a person. But when we talk about all time NFL greats,

694
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,319
Speaker 2: a guy who was at the top of his game

695
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:04,759
Speaker 2: and still said, you know what, I'm gonna go make

696
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,720
Speaker 2: the dirty doesn't I'm done. He tops many people's lists,

697
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:11,480
Speaker 2: especially if you have a certain age. You know, maybe

698
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 2: our ages and I'm older than you, but around our

699
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,440
Speaker 2: age and older, perhaps Jim Brown gets a little more

700
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:22,359
Speaker 2: love and respect because well, you you knew about him

701
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 2: growing up. You move, you didn't see him. We're not

702
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:27,200
Speaker 2: that old. But it was a guy that maybe people

703
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 2: around you talked about, right, aunts, uncles, dad's, grandpa's whoever

704
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 2: was around talking about the NFL. I got the ants

705
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: and because they do. But you know Jim Brown. So

706
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 2: he put out his top five lists. So Jim Brown

707
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 2: tops the list for Jim irsay, and he goes Brady

708
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 2: number two, Elway number three, Deacon Jones at four, and

709
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 2: number five, the Minister of Defense, Reggie White notable. I

710
00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: mean it's a who's who love it. Yeah, some great,

711
00:37:57,680 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 2: great players but the fact that Elway's on the list,

712
00:38:00,719 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 2: the quarterback that got him a Super Bowl and really

713
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,800
Speaker 2: made him kind of a big deal, and Peyton Manning

714
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: was not.

715
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 3: It's it is to have a lot of names. I mean,

716
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: do you even have Elway on there considering the history.

717
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: He didn't want to play with the goals.

718
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, like even that portion of it.

719
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 2: I love.

720
00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 3: The thing I loved about it was the Deacon Jones

721
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,040
Speaker 3: part of it because when Jim Brown passed away on

722
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Radio. It was during when I was on

723
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,680
Speaker 3: on the Doug Gottlieb Show, and Doug asked us as

724
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 3: a show saying, who's the one player that you wish

725
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 3: you would have seen that you didn't And my answer

726
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:44,720
Speaker 3: was Deacon Jones for the simple fact, Mike, because Lawrence Taylor,

727
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: Reggie White, anybody who was a pass rusher got after

728
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 3: the quarterback would rave about Deacon Jones. Yeah, and so

729
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 3: so to hear that sort of thing. Deon Sanders and

730
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 3: I'll make it quick always talked about all right now

731
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,200
Speaker 3: it's kind of becoming the you know, Hall of Good.

732
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 3: You know that there should be another level. Jim Brown

733
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:07,000
Speaker 3: would be a first ballot on that other level. The Penthouse,

734
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 3: There's no question about it.

735
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,240
Speaker 2: He's Dan Bayer. I'm Mike Garmin here Fox Sports Sunday,

736
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,560
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio. Just you know, a curious talking point.

737
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 2: You had some great teams, a lot of success, a

738
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,800
Speaker 2: lot of playoff failures, talking about number one seeds or

739
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,040
Speaker 2: number two seeds that didn't get it done. We're here

740
00:39:23,080 --> 00:39:25,400
Speaker 2: at the ti raq dot com studios and coming up

741
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 2: next turn our attention to the Eastern Conference once again.

742
00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,560
Speaker 2: As a coach, coaching for his life. Yeah, so it

743
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:36,399
Speaker 2: never ends. Keep going the carousel, keep spinning on Fox

744
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:40,560
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Hey, I'm Doug Gottlieb.

745
00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,760
Speaker 3: The podcast is called All Ball.

746
00:39:43,040 --> 00:39:45,160
Speaker 7: We usually talk all basketball all the time, but it's

747
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 7: more about the stories about what made these people love

748
00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:52,480
Speaker 7: their sport and all the interesting interactions along the way.

749
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 7: We talked to coaches, we talked to players, We tell

750
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 7: you stories.

751
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 2: You download it, you listen to it. I think you

752
00:39:59,440 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 2: like it.

753
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 7: Listen to All Ball with Doug Gotlieb on the iHeartRadio app,

754
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 7: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.

755
00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

756
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at foxsports radio

757
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:18,759
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to

758
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:19,560
Speaker 1: listen live.

759
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 2: Come on in if you will. Our two of the

760
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 2: program begins Fox Sports Sunday here live from the Tirak

761
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: dot com studios tyrac dot com. We'll help you get

762
00:40:29,640 --> 00:40:33,240
Speaker 2: there on unmatched selection, fast free shipping, free road hazard

763
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:37,080
Speaker 2: protection at over ten thousand recommended installars tyrac dot com.

764
00:40:37,160 --> 00:40:40,680
Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be coming up at about forty

765
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,680
Speaker 2: five minutes from now. We'll get the family together, maybe

766
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 2: a fireside chat. Maybe we'll pull out some board games.

767
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: I don't know all of that. We've got so much

768
00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 2: going on in the sporting universe to laugh you here,

769
00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: my guy Dan Byer co host with me. He leads

770
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,400
Speaker 2: the charge on the Eyewatcherflex podcast. Download that wherever you

771
00:40:58,440 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: get your fine audio prop on the highways and byways

772
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: of life, whether you're on the treadmill or out walking

773
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,240
Speaker 2: the dog. It's it's nice, easy listening.

774
00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:09,880
Speaker 3: And again, leading the charge just means I talk first.

775
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 3: That's the only thing that it means. Mike Carmen, you

776
00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 3: have all the information. Yeah, I get lous, the hot plays,

777
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: the cold sores.

778
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 2: There's solid I'm already I'm already starting to dive into rankings,

779
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 2: have gotten invites back into a couple of leagues as

780
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:26,600
Speaker 2: we get ready for some of these industry things and

781
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 2: draft analysis leagues and whatever. It's like, it just ramps up,

782
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: It comes back on you that fast and it probably smokes.

783
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:39,319
Speaker 3: Me in fifteen minutes. Can we get into how the

784
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,920
Speaker 3: Raiders maybe doing one of their former players dirty?

785
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: Doing a former player dirty? And there was a report

786
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:51,239
Speaker 2: that based on dollars and cents, and you know, if

787
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: it don't make dollars, it don't make sense, dampire that

788
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 2: one of their current players might be on the way

789
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 2: out after June first, all right, a guy who was

790
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:04,040
Speaker 2: in the news last week for some other reasons and

791
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 2: invoking the names of maybe other former players that he

792
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: was associated with. What zag and radus, that's right, and

793
00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:15,439
Speaker 2: the Raiders always moved the needle. We got Christopher there

794
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 2: you go, tags in from Marc as our technical producer.

795
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:22,239
Speaker 2: Here going forward, Ethan our executive producer, and of course

796
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,600
Speaker 2: you got Isaac Lohankron on the updates. So Dan today,

797
00:42:25,719 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 2: we get the match up Boston at Miami, the heat

798
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 2: up to oh and once again a lot of questions

799
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,799
Speaker 2: about Joe Missoula. I want to make sure that while

800
00:42:36,840 --> 00:42:40,280
Speaker 2: we ask those questions, we're all also asking the questions

801
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:44,360
Speaker 2: about would be superstar sometimes great, sometimes not. Jason Tatum

802
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:49,839
Speaker 2: in some fourth quarter disappearing acts and inability to a

803
00:42:50,080 --> 00:42:53,879
Speaker 2: hit a shot, but be the shot totals being as

804
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 2: low as they are for a guy who's it seems

805
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 2: like people want to push him to that next level.

806
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,480
Speaker 2: And we have games where he does, and then games

807
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 2: where in the fourth quarter's decision time, the ball's not

808
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: in his hands.

809
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: I have him at that next level and then and

810
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: it shows and what he did in Game seven against

811
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 3: the seventy six ers, well.

812
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 2: But it's the seventy six ers and Doc Rivers. So

813
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:19,279
Speaker 2: I grate on the curb.

814
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 3: No, I'm so so like I I do have him

815
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 3: at that level. I think that Joe Missoula conversation is

816
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:32,319
Speaker 3: when when has Joe Missoula been a benefit At what

817
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 3: point like you can point to Jason Tatum. I mean,

818
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:40,520
Speaker 3: even in what was an awful it was a Game

819
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 3: six against Philadelphia, he hit some huge shots down the store.

820
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:47,479
Speaker 2: Fourth quarter was absolutely huge.

821
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, So I think that that the question is

822
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 3: with Joe Misula, how things played out Again this wasn't this,

823
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: wasn't that Joe Missoula is our guy. It's Joe Mizula's

824
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 3: got to be our guy be because of em Doka situation.

825
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: Will Hardy's in Utah. So now you go down the

826
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 3: list and it's a I think it's a fair conversation.

827
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 3: I think there are bigger issues with Boston and Jason

828
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,160
Speaker 3: Tatum's play in the final minutes and turnovers and what

829
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 3: he's done are a reason why they are down two Oh.

830
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 3: I don't think it's the overall reason. I think that

831
00:44:23,560 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 3: there's a there's kind of an umbrella thing with Boston

832
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: that and and it's signified in Grant Williams. But I

833
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 3: the Missoula one. I just wonder, like I can find

834
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,320
Speaker 3: value in Jason Tatum in a lot of spots. Sure,

835
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,399
Speaker 3: I just wonder where Joe Missoula won them games well.

836
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:41,759
Speaker 2: And I think that that's it.

837
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 3: Right.

838
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: Coming into the year, expectations sky high. Coaching change happens,

839
00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 2: and at that point you don't have a robust market

840
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,320
Speaker 2: to go and find your next coach, looking for a

841
00:44:54,360 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 2: guy who's gonna fit the what you have, come in

842
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:02,440
Speaker 2: and young give a fresh start, fresh set of eyes

843
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 2: and you had questions swirling Brown Tatum, are they together?

844
00:45:07,719 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 2: Are they not right? How much of that is real

845
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:14,719
Speaker 2: versus fabricated, and you know, something taken out of context

846
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:19,640
Speaker 2: versus anything that's linked deep seated between stars of a

847
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 2: squad remains to be seen. But when we talk about

848
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:27,400
Speaker 2: what the Celtics coming back, expectations were huge coming into

849
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: the season, and certainly even after the coaches like, well,

850
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 2: they've played together a couple of years, they'll be able

851
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 2: to weather the storm. It's kind of the idea of

852
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:39,919
Speaker 2: Golden State. At the end of their playoff run, I got, oh, yeah,

853
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: that punch was huge for us. I mean just like, well,

854
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,720
Speaker 2: you still got to this point, so you reconciled stuff

855
00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 2: enough to make it functional to get to the second

856
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 2: round of the playoff. Then you're telling me, because you

857
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,399
Speaker 2: suddenly couldn't hit some jump shots, what a terrible, awful thing.

858
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:58,520
Speaker 2: I'm not saying it wasn't divisive and problematic, but you

859
00:45:58,520 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 2: were professional and you left it out the right. Everybody,

860
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: you go to your jobs and as best you can

861
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:08,160
Speaker 2: whatever's going on at home in your personal life. It

862
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:12,200
Speaker 2: doesn't mean that it's one hundred percent left outside those walls.

863
00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:14,440
Speaker 2: But you do your best not to bring it in

864
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 2: as you can. Likewise, once you get on a basketball court,

865
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:19,919
Speaker 2: you're not gonna say, you know what I about pass

866
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 2: to that guy because we yelled at each other three

867
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:22,879
Speaker 2: months ago.

868
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 3: Can I can I go on this detour quickly with

869
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 3: you at Golden State? Yeah, And we'll bring it back

870
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 3: to the Celtics though, because the whole conversation and the

871
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 3: exit interviews and Steve Courr admitting on on what that

872
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 3: punch of Draymond Green did you know to Jordan Poole

873
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 3: and how much of an affected ad in the season

874
00:46:41,560 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: there's there. Remember when Kevin Durant had the conversation with

875
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 3: Draymond Green and was like, hey, man, uh, the reason

876
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,719
Speaker 3: why I left wasn't for what you said, and what

877
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 3: you you know, said to me probably wasn't the greatest

878
00:46:56,320 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 3: thing in the world. But whatever he said, it's how

879
00:46:59,120 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 3: everyone around it handled it. And I think that the

880
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:07,759
Speaker 3: Warriors in that scenario of the Jordan Poole Draymond Green, like,

881
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 3: you're right, they they went out of their way, bending

882
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,719
Speaker 3: over backwards to not talk about it, to not address it,

883
00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 3: to be mad at the video person who like it

884
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 3: was it?

885
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: Ye?

886
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then at the end of the year, to

887
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,919
Speaker 3: your point, they're like, well, it played a big role.

888
00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 3: Maybe just maybe if you addressed it and said, this

889
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 3: is a huge thing for us, because what happened was

890
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,840
Speaker 3: is they put up the shield and we I would

891
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 3: go back to that. I just don't know how somebody

892
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 3: punching another teammate in practice, whatever reasons may be behind it,

893
00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 3: how that could not have an effect. And I think

894
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:46,760
Speaker 3: their way of trying to keep it at arm's length

895
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: is the same thing that kind of happened with Kevin Durant.

896
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 3: Is that's not the right way to handle and I

897
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 3: think that it carried over into the season.

898
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, it certainly is behind the scenes, but what you're

899
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 2: on the court in theory, you know you get through it,

900
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,799
Speaker 2: and if you have an opportunity to make shots, you

901
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 2: make shots. If you're not like a part of the

902
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 2: background with the Warriors. If I'm to believe it was

903
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:13,560
Speaker 2: a he got paid and be there. The veterans were

904
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: especially led by Draymond again not handling it the right way,

905
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 2: but was like, all right, you now have to earn

906
00:48:20,400 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 2: you haven't earned it yet, right, you got it because

907
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: it was your turn to get it. But there's still

908
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 2: parts of your game that we need to see that

909
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,920
Speaker 2: effort and we're not getting like that. That's like reading

910
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,680
Speaker 2: between all all the lines throughout the season that there

911
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 2: was something to that. Because even Steph Curry as he

912
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: was getting ready to leave, you know, when they were

913
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: asking about the bridge to the next era of the

914
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: you know, dynasty or whatever you want to term it,

915
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,000
Speaker 2: Curry just pointed at Jordan Poole's locker, saying, it's all

916
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 2: on him. So the expectations are huge, right, the old

917
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 2: Spider Man. With great power comes great responsibility.

918
00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go.

919
00:49:00,520 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: I got my nerd them in this early.

920
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: The it's it is. It is a very unique situation.

921
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 3: But I will say this because then I can go

922
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:15,440
Speaker 3: back to the Celtics. I know they're paid professionals. I

923
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,960
Speaker 3: understand all that. And I did not play any athletics

924
00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 3: on any high level, right sure, but I did play

925
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:27,280
Speaker 3: on teams where you didn't like the guy, just didn't

926
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 3: like the guy. And some days, Mike, it wasn't like

927
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,359
Speaker 3: let's just get past it, like they're like, there's there

928
00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,360
Speaker 3: is something there, because the stuff that the the person

929
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:42,359
Speaker 3: does sometimes translates to the court like and and and

930
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,880
Speaker 3: that's maybe the reason why you're not seeing eye to eye,

931
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 3: and it's it's it's so I don't I don't know.

932
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 3: If I don't know that Detatum and Brown thing here,

933
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 3: I think it could maybe have been a Golden State team.

934
00:49:55,239 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 3: Even if you know the shots of how often were

935
00:49:57,719 --> 00:50:00,080
Speaker 3: we focusing on Jordan Poole walking off the court or

936
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:00,720
Speaker 3: doing whatever?

937
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 2: Well that's it. It became that big a deal. And

938
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 2: why is he not on the court or missing a

939
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,880
Speaker 2: shot or how's he reacting? Or here's the superuer film

940
00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:14,320
Speaker 2: of him seemingly ignoring Draymond as he walks to the bench,

941
00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:16,239
Speaker 2: you know, to go to a you know, during a

942
00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: time out, all all of those things. But suffice to say,

943
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,640
Speaker 2: the Celtics we had questions coming into the year. Then

944
00:50:22,680 --> 00:50:27,200
Speaker 2: you have the coaching change. Found it interesting timing Nia Long,

945
00:50:27,480 --> 00:50:31,759
Speaker 2: who was with Udoka before he got embroiled in all

946
00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:34,839
Speaker 2: this stuff. She had a tweet about a glorious day

947
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:38,160
Speaker 2: or something about the time the Celtics went down oh

948
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 2: two in the series. So you know, hey, you got

949
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,600
Speaker 2: that still holstered, all happy doess, all positivity. But you

950
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 2: know what, I'm gonna time this like right as you know,

951
00:50:48,239 --> 00:50:52,479
Speaker 2: the team lose another game, But when you look at

952
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: the circumstance, now you're down to, oh, you've got the

953
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler effect, which we'll get into bigger boy. You

954
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: have a number of veteran coaches with pedigree. Now all

955
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: of them have their their issues and flaws and reasons

956
00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:10,919
Speaker 2: they got fired. Right for Mike Budenholzer, you could talk

957
00:51:10,960 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 2: about a couple of circumstances and game decisions, but as

958
00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: soon as Yiannis calls out sequencing and how Drew Holliday

959
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,920
Speaker 2: was or wasn't used properly whatever, like the writing's on

960
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 2: the wall, Superstar set his piece, which means he said

961
00:51:26,840 --> 00:51:29,439
Speaker 2: more behind the scenes, especially a guy like Kim who

962
00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:36,040
Speaker 2: had crafted pretty carefully. They think the aus shucks attitude

963
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 2: that everybody was just like, ah, you know, he's just

964
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: happy to be here. It's like, no, he's not. That

965
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 2: might have been twenty thirteen when he came into the

966
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,080
Speaker 2: league decade in that it's a different guy.

967
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 3: You know. It's funny with Missoula in how they got

968
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 3: to this point, Mike, because we talked about the finding

969
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,640
Speaker 3: of the replacement of Utoka. But again, this is a

970
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 3: team that got off to an amazing start to the

971
00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 3: year eighteen and four. To start the season, he coached

972
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,400
Speaker 3: the All Star Game because of how good Boston was,

973
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,799
Speaker 3: and then Boston's like, all right, you're our guy. But

974
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 3: his job really the season was just don't sink the ship.

975
00:52:14,480 --> 00:52:15,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't screw it up.

976
00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 3: Yep.

977
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: So now the fourth quarter decisions are lack thereof don't

978
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,359
Speaker 2: take a time out to advance the ball, don't take

979
00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:26,840
Speaker 2: a time out to regroup, all of these things, not

980
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 2: to mention how many sequences you have where Tatum doesn't

981
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,520
Speaker 2: see the ball, which part of that is on the

982
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: players once you're actually on the court, But as a coach,

983
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,759
Speaker 2: it's like, hey, come on, let's.

984
00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:40,960
Speaker 3: I know you want to make it like a feel

985
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,359
Speaker 3: good thing. And by you, I'm talking about the Celtics

986
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 3: front office, and they've made a lot of great moves,

987
00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:52,360
Speaker 3: signing him to a contract extension after that start, I know,

988
00:52:52,480 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 3: seems like a no brainer that he's our guy. But

989
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 3: we now know that the NBA is a two month

990
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 3: season from mid April to mid June. Yeah, what it is,

991
00:53:01,239 --> 00:53:03,200
Speaker 3: and if you don't get it done there, then you're

992
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 3: not going to get it done. And the reason that

993
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:08,719
Speaker 3: those guys are being brought up is possible replacements. Not

994
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 3: only it is it because of Missoula and his pedigree

995
00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 3: or maybe lack thereof. It's because of those guys pedigree

996
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 3: and what you can do mid April through mid June.

997
00:53:18,880 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 2: But that's it, right With a lot of the coaches

998
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:24,960
Speaker 2: that got spun out, Coaches of the year, maybe a

999
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 2: title run, conference finals, all of those things. There's a

1000
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:33,840
Speaker 2: lot of guys out there that veteran coaches that are available, yeah,

1001
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 2: to come fix and whatever ills or to guide it

1002
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:37,719
Speaker 2: to that man.

1003
00:53:38,000 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: Even think Boston's a little different than say even Milwaukee,

1004
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 3: Like Milwaukee's been interviewing a lot of guys Charles Lee

1005
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,400
Speaker 3: in house, Chris Quinn heat assistant out you know, outside

1006
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:51,200
Speaker 3: of the building, and the normal names that you hear

1007
00:53:51,239 --> 00:53:54,280
Speaker 3: all around. I don't hear other assistants from other teams

1008
00:53:54,719 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 3: being like, Okay, that could go to Boston. Now. Granted

1009
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,120
Speaker 3: Boston's still playing right now. They could come back in

1010
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 3: this deficit and go to the NBA Finals. But the

1011
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:04,840
Speaker 3: names that are popping up at these other jobs, you're saying, Okay,

1012
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 3: well maybe Nick Nurse in Boston, maybe that you like.

1013
00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 3: That's and it's all because of what has gone on

1014
00:54:10,120 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 3: so far, brilliant the first two games.

1015
00:54:12,520 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 2: It shows how quickly it turns. Yeah, right, because we

1016
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 2: talked about it last week with Game seven of the

1017
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,920
Speaker 2: idea was a loser leafs down match.

1018
00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 3: Sure, well, James Harden took it to heart, likely well,

1019
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: Doc Rivers.

1020
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 2: Unfortunately, Fine, but you know it was a reality. Yes,

1021
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,480
Speaker 2: you know the stakes are that high in the playoffs

1022
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,600
Speaker 2: and we've just seen team after team make a move,

1023
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: and for the Celtics, the expectations being what they were,

1024
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 2: you lose this series, I mean, you dropped another two

1025
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:44,200
Speaker 2: games at home. That's a whole other thing. Remember Kyrie

1026
00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: Irving running around with his sage brush. At some point

1027
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 2: you got to bring him back to exorcise or as

1028
00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:52,279
Speaker 2: to borrow it so you can exercise those demons that

1029
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: might have started when he was promising to stay there

1030
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 2: as long as as they have him on the court

1031
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 2: before saying I'm.

1032
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 3: Done, I was ready for a Celtics walkover. I thought

1033
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 3: they were going to crush the Heat and Game two,

1034
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:09,319
Speaker 3: not only because I thought Boston was gonna be different, Mike,

1035
00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: but I thought that the Heats and this is my

1036
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:14,359
Speaker 3: fault in doing so, I thought that the heat were

1037
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,959
Speaker 3: gonna be like, all right, we got our one. Because

1038
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,000
Speaker 3: for as great as Miami has been in the playoffs

1039
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: in recent history, there have been times so they've put

1040
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 3: up stinkers and that did not happen with Miami.

1041
00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:29,360
Speaker 2: Just keep going, he got. As Jimmy Butler said in

1042
00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,160
Speaker 2: his postgame of Game two, we got a lot of

1043
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:34,160
Speaker 2: dogs up in here, because in the final minutes of games,

1044
00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 2: who are you trusting? I'll take Eric Spolstra and the

1045
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 2: guys that are part of that rotation, even if it's

1046
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 2: imperfect because of the injuries that they've sustained. No Tyler

1047
00:55:44,000 --> 00:55:46,640
Speaker 2: hero and is twenty points off the bench, whatever, Like

1048
00:55:46,719 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 2: I just know down the stretch, if I need a

1049
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,960
Speaker 2: play or I need a stop, Spolster's going to be

1050
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,919
Speaker 2: able to get them in their heads and Butler's gonna

1051
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:58,240
Speaker 2: be able to make a play, find a passing lane

1052
00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:02,359
Speaker 2: to cut into whatever. Like the trust issue, because it's

1053
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:05,239
Speaker 2: been very real for the Celtics all year long, five

1054
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 2: hundred team and games to decided by five or fewer,

1055
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:11,080
Speaker 2: and they've lost everything they've done in the playoffs that's

1056
00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:11,520
Speaker 2: been closer.

1057
00:56:11,560 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 3: Now now we're gonna talk a little NFL. I want to

1058
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,200
Speaker 3: there's something about the Celtics that I want to say. Yeah,

1059
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 3: and I know that we're pushing it, so we'll do

1060
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 3: it on the other side. But and it goes back

1061
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,319
Speaker 3: to the Grant Williams Jimmy Butler thing.

1062
00:56:22,320 --> 00:56:24,399
Speaker 2: Though, Oh yeah, yeah, no, no, no, certainly we got

1063
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 2: to get a little more on Grant Williams didn't play

1064
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: in Game one, got twenty six minutes and may have

1065
00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: well cost the Celtics season.

1066
00:56:33,080 --> 00:56:35,640
Speaker 3: I'm a victim of a Grant Williams game Game seven

1067
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 3: Eastern Semis last year. So as a Bucks fan, you know,

1068
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,120
Speaker 3: I can't say too much about Grant Williams because he

1069
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 3: came through in the clutch. Been a victim of an

1070
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:47,879
Speaker 3: Al Horford game, a Grant Williams game. But the Grant

1071
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:50,520
Speaker 3: Williams Jimmy Butler thing I think signifies a bigger problem

1072
00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 3: in Boston.

1073
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, both of those guys who they're going to need

1074
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 2: to have a game to try to get back. Game

1075
00:56:56,400 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 2: three later on, we'll preview it in Arnest later on.

1076
00:56:59,120 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 2: Well brought you by progress mature. It's progressive, makes bundling

1077
00:57:01,480 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 2: easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount by combining

1078
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 2: your motorcycle, RV, boat, ATV and more all your protection

1079
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 2: to one place. Bundle and save a progressive dot Com.

1080
00:57:10,400 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 2: Grant Williams stuff about poking bears and that aforementioned Raiders story.

1081
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 2: Who did they kick to the curb? We'll tell you next.

1082
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 2: Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Radios, Fox Sports Sunday

1083
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:27,560
Speaker 2: Comedy Alive from the Tyrack dot Com Studios. Rolling along

1084
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:31,240
Speaker 2: here West Ham Now with the commanding three to one

1085
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: lead over Leads, We've got the PGA Championship rolling on,

1086
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: Dan Buyer. So much excitement in the air.

1087
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: A lot of excitement. And I don't know if they're

1088
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 3: excited in Boston or not, but here's here's my thoughts

1089
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 3: on the Celtics thing.

1090
00:57:45,600 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 2: Mike, all right, let's get we'll bring it back game two.

1091
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 2: Grant Williams poking the bear.

1092
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 3: It's a much bigger issue in what's happening with Boston

1093
00:57:55,080 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 3: because Grant Williams felt that he was that guy. And

1094
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 3: I keep going back. This is like the fifth time

1095
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 3: I think in these NBA playoffs, I go back to

1096
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,680
Speaker 3: the viral video at pal You're not that guy that

1097
00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 3: that video, the guy in the grocery store and the

1098
00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:16,919
Speaker 3: Boston Celtics right now are not that guy. And as Mike,

1099
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 3: for as much as I really really liked Boston this year,

1100
00:58:21,640 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 3: i'd said with you on shows, I felt that the

1101
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 3: second half of the year was we were getting ready

1102
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: for the Boston Celtics Invitational. I thought they were gonna

1103
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 3: go to the NBA Finals, crush whoever they played in

1104
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 3: the finals, and be NBA Champions. But there were things

1105
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 3: that popped up throughout the year that you just kind

1106
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:43,880
Speaker 3: of wonder and maybe you scratch your head about. And

1107
00:58:44,120 --> 00:58:46,840
Speaker 3: one of which was I remember Jason Tatum, well again

1108
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,320
Speaker 3: I love and I think is the superstar to despite

1109
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:53,800
Speaker 3: the late game failings we've seen recently, is him saying

1110
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,200
Speaker 3: I now know what it takes to win a championship.

1111
00:58:57,360 --> 00:58:59,680
Speaker 3: No you don't. You know why because you haven't won

1112
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 3: I finished it. Yeah, and you're not to that point yet.

1113
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,960
Speaker 3: But it sounded it just came off egustistical. It count

1114
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 3: it came off as skipping steps.

1115
00:59:12,320 --> 00:59:15,880
Speaker 2: He hey, humbly, I'm one of the best players in the.

1116
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 5: World, and and I get what he was trying to

1117
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,280
Speaker 5: say there, but again it doesn't it doesn't come off

1118
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 5: and the Grant.

1119
00:59:26,160 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 3: Williams problem Mike that I have is Grant Williams shouldn't

1120
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 3: be the one. It's not even stoking the bear, it's

1121
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: being like, that's gonna be my responsibility to do so.

1122
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 3: Like Grant Williams is not that guy. You know who

1123
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 3: is that guy? Marcus Smart? And Marcus Smart is respected

1124
00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,800
Speaker 3: by so many in the NBA, but he's also the

1125
00:59:49,840 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 3: guy that can get in your hair. Like Grant Williams

1126
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:58,280
Speaker 3: not that guy and not that guy. Took Jimmy Butler

1127
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 3: and you know, awoke the Sleeping Giant, if you will,

1128
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 3: and Game two ended up being a rap for the

1129
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 3: Miami Heat. That is my problem with Boston right now.

1130
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 3: And it's it's even more glaring. And maybe I'm the

1131
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 3: fool for believing in them so much. But it may

1132
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 3: not be Joe Mizula's fault. But he's not that guy,

1133
01:00:21,920 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 3: and he wasn't even in line to be that guy

1134
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 3: until what happened with the Udoka situation. Jason Tatum saying

1135
01:00:29,320 --> 01:00:31,360
Speaker 3: that he knows what it takes to win an NBA finals.

1136
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 3: They haven't won an NBA finals. Grant Williams going up

1137
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 3: to Jimmy Butler and getting in his face and having

1138
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:40,280
Speaker 3: this showdown when sorry, Grant Williams is not going to

1139
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 3: be able to do enough to pester Jimmy Butler into

1140
01:00:45,880 --> 01:00:48,760
Speaker 3: into anything. It's just not it's not equal. And by

1141
01:00:48,800 --> 01:00:51,400
Speaker 3: the way, Grant Williams doesn't have enough equity in the league.

1142
01:00:52,600 --> 01:00:56,600
Speaker 2: That's the larger thing, right, the profile and history or whatever.

1143
01:00:56,720 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: A couple of exceptions, sorry Dan, that come into play

1144
01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 2: in his career, but he's a guy coming off the bench.

1145
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:06,080
Speaker 2: He was a guy that Missoula thought so much of.

1146
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:10,960
Speaker 2: He didn't play him in Game one. So I guess

1147
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:14,160
Speaker 2: on some level I respect Grant Williams saying, all right,

1148
01:01:14,320 --> 01:01:16,800
Speaker 2: if these guys aren't gonna be the guy, I'll try

1149
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:20,560
Speaker 2: to be that guy. Just recognize that with that again,

1150
01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,600
Speaker 2: you're gonna have to wear it when it goes incorrectly.

1151
01:01:25,000 --> 01:01:28,640
Speaker 2: And this is a heat team that doesn't back down.

1152
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:32,080
Speaker 2: We watched it last round, right, they had the knicks,

1153
01:01:32,760 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 2: and really it was more a slugfest. Not the most

1154
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: aesthetically pleasing basketball you're going to see, but team that

1155
01:01:42,360 --> 01:01:44,800
Speaker 2: they go and they take care of business. And you know,

1156
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:48,560
Speaker 2: my partner during the weekdays, Smith was beside himself and

1157
01:01:48,560 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 2: then he missed the clinching game. He was out that night.

1158
01:01:52,320 --> 01:01:57,240
Speaker 2: I had to call him. No, no, you wouldn't come on.

1159
01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:00,720
Speaker 2: I left messages on his voicemail going in this one,

1160
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:03,160
Speaker 2: which is kind of funny. I mean, it just happenstance

1161
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 2: that the games fell there because it was also you know,

1162
01:02:06,200 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers taking down the Warriors at that point. But

1163
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler twenty seven and is eight and six, Bam

1164
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:18,600
Speaker 2: Autebayo who's been fantastic and really an afterthought and all

1165
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 2: this and that, and that's the funny thing is with

1166
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: the rest of the heat can just work an anonymity

1167
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 2: because Jimmy Butler is right now the face of everything

1168
01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,000
Speaker 2: they're doing. And you got a game, and just not

1169
01:02:31,120 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: to believe that you got Martin Tod scored twenty five, right,

1170
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:38,320
Speaker 2: he's been really good, and Robinson had fifteen. Kyle Lowry,

1171
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 2: who's been so instrumental for them down the stretch of

1172
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: the regular season and into the first couple of rounds

1173
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:46,080
Speaker 2: of the playoffs, he played seventeen minutes. He was zero

1174
01:02:46,120 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 2: for five from the field. He had five assists, but

1175
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:50,520
Speaker 2: he was minus twenty one.

1176
01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:54,600
Speaker 3: And gave Vincent's play I think is the reason for

1177
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:56,200
Speaker 3: that they haven't needed them, gave.

1178
01:02:56,200 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: Forty minutes, been really really good. And you want to

1179
01:02:58,640 --> 01:03:00,480
Speaker 2: talk about a guy, you want to you know, we're

1180
01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:03,840
Speaker 2: talking about trying to be that guy. Had a horrible

1181
01:03:03,880 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 2: shooting night. What happened? He hits a massive jump shot

1182
01:03:09,000 --> 01:03:12,959
Speaker 2: that just takes the air out of the arena in.

1183
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:16,760
Speaker 3: Boston and all done and and this is this is

1184
01:03:16,760 --> 01:03:19,080
Speaker 3: a tip of the Captain Miami, the Miami Heat as well,

1185
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 3: all being done without Tyler Herron's.

1186
01:03:22,360 --> 01:03:26,160
Speaker 2: Well, I know, Victor Oladipo sure for whatever he role

1187
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,760
Speaker 2: he might have played, it's unfortunate that, you know, you

1188
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 2: have another devastating injury and then you've got one of

1189
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 2: your bench slots is just by a guy who's a cheerleader. Yes, yes,

1190
01:03:36,280 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 2: but he's he's an important but I mean, he's a coach,

1191
01:03:41,720 --> 01:03:44,680
Speaker 2: he's a mentor, he's that. But he's the type of

1192
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,040
Speaker 2: guy that so many other teams that we watch go

1193
01:03:47,120 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 2: to the wayside, maturity in fighting, all of these things

1194
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 2: that you hear swirling about. If you had a Donas

1195
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 2: Haslam on the bench, probably a lot of that gets

1196
01:03:56,960 --> 01:04:00,320
Speaker 2: uh cut short, and you probably get back to playing

1197
01:04:00,320 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: basketballsolutely pretty quickly. Having a guy like him, having a

1198
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,280
Speaker 2: guy out out the court like Jimmy Butler. We'll get

1199
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: into Butler a little bit more. Next hour. He's Dan

1200
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 2: Byron by Carbon Fox Sports Sunday here Fox Sports Radio

1201
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,480
Speaker 2: coming up in just ninety seconds from now, we'll tell

1202
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: you about the Raiders and how they're taking a line

1203
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:21,480
Speaker 2: from Bob Seeger.

1204
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 3: The greatness of the Raiders.

1205
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:26,840
Speaker 2: But first, it's Isaac molcs count. It's trending, Fellas.

1206
01:04:26,920 --> 01:04:30,200
Speaker 6: Game three of the Western Conference Finals on Saturday nights

1207
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,400
Speaker 6: saw Denver go up three games to none over the

1208
01:04:33,440 --> 01:04:35,880
Speaker 6: Los Angeles Lakers with a one nineteen one tow eight

1209
01:04:35,960 --> 01:04:39,640
Speaker 6: win in LA, led by Jamal Murray's thirty seven points,

1210
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:42,920
Speaker 6: Nikala Leokics twenty four points, six rebounds and eight assists.

1211
01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 6: Anthony Davis had twenty eight points and eighteen rebounds for

1212
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,680
Speaker 6: the Lakers, Lebron James delivering twenty three points, seven rebounds

1213
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:54,400
Speaker 6: and twelve assists. Meanwhile, in the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals,

1214
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:58,400
Speaker 6: in Game one, which began on Thursday night and ended

1215
01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 6: on Friday morning, the Carolina Panthers, excuse me, the Florida

1216
01:05:03,520 --> 01:05:06,200
Speaker 6: Panthers and the Carolina hurric You know what the game

1217
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 6: lasted so long they should have brought in the Panthers

1218
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 6: of Carolina for reinforcements. But anyway, the Florida Panthers and

1219
01:05:12,160 --> 01:05:17,000
Speaker 6: Carolina Hurricanes went four overtimes. The game lasted five hours

1220
01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,320
Speaker 6: and forty four minutes, ended at one fifty four on

1221
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 6: Friday morning on a goal by Florida's Matthew Kachuk. So

1222
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:27,640
Speaker 6: what happened in game two last night? They went to

1223
01:05:27,800 --> 01:05:32,520
Speaker 6: overtime again? Would it be another four overtime game? No,

1224
01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 6: it wouldn't even be a two minute overtime. Here was

1225
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 6: Doug Plagans on WQAM.

1226
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 4: At Bennett, Bennett's got the clock. Bennett in the right circle,

1227
01:05:40,520 --> 01:05:42,080
Speaker 4: out in front, Ryne Her back Garth.

1228
01:05:42,120 --> 01:05:43,160
Speaker 2: They score, and.

1229
01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:46,720
Speaker 8: It's Matthew kit Chuck the overtime winner.

1230
01:05:46,440 --> 01:05:48,160
Speaker 2: And the Panthers.

1231
01:05:47,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 4: Take Game two.

1232
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:51,160
Speaker 2: They league two games to none.

1233
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:54,560
Speaker 9: It only took a minute and fifty one seconds a

1234
01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,320
Speaker 9: power play goal in overtime.

1235
01:05:57,760 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 4: The Panthers win it to.

1236
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,760
Speaker 6: By the way, just before that highlight, Doug plagan said

1237
01:06:04,800 --> 01:06:09,000
Speaker 6: on WQAM, Please God, I don't care who wins, just

1238
01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 6: make it so it doesn't go four overtimes again. Anyway,

1239
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:15,840
Speaker 6: the final round of the PGA Championship underway. Brooks Koepka

1240
01:06:15,920 --> 01:06:18,600
Speaker 6: has the lead at six under par overall, one shot

1241
01:06:18,600 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 6: ahead of Victor Hoblin and Corey Conners. They're all gonna

1242
01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,080
Speaker 6: tee off their final rounds around two thirty Eastern time

1243
01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,120
Speaker 6: this afternoon. In Major League Baseball, on Saturday night, the

1244
01:06:28,160 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 6: Boston Red Sox defeated the slump in Padres in San

1245
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 6: Diego four to two behind Chris Sale, who allowed just

1246
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 6: three hits and seven innings with eight strike ups. The

1247
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:38,959
Speaker 6: Padres on a four game losing streak and have lost

1248
01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:42,240
Speaker 6: eleven of their last thirteen twins over the Angels in

1249
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:45,120
Speaker 6: Anaheim six to two, Minnesota's Joey Gallo homering for the

1250
01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,920
Speaker 6: fourth time in seven games.

1251
01:06:46,960 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 2: Fellas back to you. You know what was crazy the

1252
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:53,120
Speaker 2: other night with the four overtime game. I'm teasing ahead

1253
01:06:53,240 --> 01:06:57,880
Speaker 2: Ben Maller coming up next. Eddie's prepping his update and

1254
01:06:57,920 --> 01:06:58,560
Speaker 2: watching the game.

1255
01:06:58,800 --> 01:06:59,240
Speaker 1: Literally.

1256
01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:02,800
Speaker 2: I signed off. We are Fox Sports. The goal happened

1257
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:04,960
Speaker 2: probably eight seconds after we went off air.

1258
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,400
Speaker 6: It was a Rangers game. Smith would have insisted on

1259
01:07:07,440 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 6: staying on.

1260
01:07:10,680 --> 01:07:11,480
Speaker 3: Commercial break.

1261
01:07:11,800 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 2: He's actually a Hurricanes guy, which is why he's all

1262
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 2: excited about the potential stuff going on in the NHL

1263
01:07:20,640 --> 01:07:23,440
Speaker 2: as well at Isaac Lohencron where you find him on Twitter.

1264
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 2: Thanks Ilo, But yeah, that was insane. The other night

1265
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:30,240
Speaker 2: you had Wayne Gretzky, who is the face of hockey

1266
01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 2: for so many just going, my god, let's finish this.

1267
01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: They run out of ad inventory, so literally it was

1268
01:07:36,400 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: just long intermissions of them at the desk, and at

1269
01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 2: one point one of the sponsors is Dorito's. They're all

1270
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: sitting around eating bags of chips, well chatting. So it

1271
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:48,080
Speaker 2: was kind of funny that way. How much more product

1272
01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:50,680
Speaker 2: placement can we get in? They didn't even run interstitials.

1273
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:53,680
Speaker 2: For all the programming and all the Marvel movies and

1274
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:55,840
Speaker 2: stuff that they bought the rights to air.

1275
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,880
Speaker 3: They should have just ran them again. That's what we

1276
01:07:57,920 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 3: would do. Run the commercials, run it again.

1277
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,240
Speaker 2: Many go you got bonus.

1278
01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,560
Speaker 3: Good news, you got it, doubled up, double up, go ahead.

1279
01:08:05,640 --> 01:08:08,080
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, you know this quick.

1280
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,640
Speaker 3: Raiders thing, Yeah, is the Raiders are one of the

1281
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 3: few teams in professional sports that really don't retire numbers,

1282
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: and in fact, if you watch a Raider game, you're

1283
01:08:18,840 --> 01:08:21,400
Speaker 3: gonna see guys in uniforms and then it was like,

1284
01:08:21,479 --> 01:08:23,439
Speaker 3: so weird for me because I know he wasn't the

1285
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:26,400
Speaker 3: only one to wear the number. But when kJ Wright

1286
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:29,240
Speaker 3: played for the Raiders for a short time being, he

1287
01:08:29,320 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: wore number thirty four, which was worn by Bo Jackson,

1288
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 3: and there have been other thirty fours with the Raiders,

1289
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:39,400
Speaker 3: so it's not that's not anything new, Mike. But at

1290
01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:44,280
Speaker 3: the Rookie Premier put on by Pinini, Aidan O'Connell, quarterback

1291
01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:48,240
Speaker 3: from Purdue is the fourth round pick, was spotted wearing

1292
01:08:49,520 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 3: jersey number four. I don't think that the Raiders are

1293
01:08:53,600 --> 01:08:56,840
Speaker 3: going to retire Derek Carr's jersey. Now. I know they

1294
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:03,280
Speaker 3: definitely won't, but my point is at in some situations,

1295
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 3: and I know it's difficult because wide receivers are our

1296
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:09,240
Speaker 3: we team numbers, but I don't think they ran out

1297
01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:13,799
Speaker 3: of any uniform numbers. What should they have at least

1298
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 3: waited a year to give someone number four, And I

1299
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,799
Speaker 3: don't know if he's going to wear that. Maybe Panini

1300
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,519
Speaker 3: was like, this is the only Raider jersey we have,

1301
01:09:21,600 --> 01:09:23,839
Speaker 3: so you're gonna wear it. But it was just weird

1302
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:28,080
Speaker 3: seeing someone else in a number four Raiders jersey and

1303
01:09:28,120 --> 01:09:31,439
Speaker 3: that's what we had at that Panini premiere.

1304
01:09:31,520 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so to pull it back out a second, you know,

1305
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:38,639
Speaker 2: they bring in, you know, thirty to forty rookies, generally

1306
01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,200
Speaker 2: skilled position players, a couple of defensive stars, high draft

1307
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:46,880
Speaker 2: picks that they think that the collectibles market trading cards, autographs,

1308
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 2: et cetera, will be excitable about. And they come in.

1309
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:54,120
Speaker 2: They sign a ton of cards, a ton of stickers

1310
01:09:54,160 --> 01:09:57,240
Speaker 2: that will be placed on cards, take a bunch of photos.

1311
01:09:57,240 --> 01:09:59,479
Speaker 2: So you've got all these photo booths and once upon

1312
01:09:59,560 --> 01:10:02,960
Speaker 2: a time was all the companies. Benini has the exclusive

1313
01:10:03,000 --> 01:10:05,519
Speaker 2: license right now. They used to be all right over

1314
01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,280
Speaker 2: in that corner's upper deck over there's top so you

1315
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:10,960
Speaker 2: know all these weird setups and that they did a

1316
01:10:11,000 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: good job of well basically, if you showed up, you

1317
01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,679
Speaker 2: didn't give away any of the secrets. And then people

1318
01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 2: started giving away the secrets because they're jerks and social media.

1319
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,360
Speaker 2: It's like, well, I got to show you where I

1320
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,880
Speaker 2: was today, and here let me show you something cool. Well,

1321
01:10:25,920 --> 01:10:28,639
Speaker 2: you've now ruined one of their great reveals for later

1322
01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 2: in the year. But they get their jerseys, they take

1323
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 2: pictures and the number four, I mean maybe it's an

1324
01:10:34,520 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 2: homage to Derek Carr. Maybe it's a blank you maybe

1325
01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:40,360
Speaker 2: it was a cute idea by someone with the Raiders,

1326
01:10:41,080 --> 01:10:44,439
Speaker 2: and Derek Carr's no sacred cow man, so you know,

1327
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 2: to me, it's a I would have taken another jersey,

1328
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,599
Speaker 2: just say hey, we're moving on from number four, because

1329
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:54,800
Speaker 2: if you watched enough football, you know Derek Carr was

1330
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,080
Speaker 2: number four. So I was like, all right, we're into

1331
01:10:57,080 --> 01:11:02,559
Speaker 2: a new era. But it you know, it's I just

1332
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:04,560
Speaker 2: maybe that number has some meaning to him that he

1333
01:11:04,600 --> 01:11:06,000
Speaker 2: couldn't wear in college. I don't know.

1334
01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:10,400
Speaker 3: Considering how things ended, I know that it didn't seem

1335
01:11:10,439 --> 01:11:13,439
Speaker 3: like it was on great terms, to say the least.

1336
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,719
Speaker 3: I just thought that a little bit more, a little

1337
01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:19,639
Speaker 3: bit more respect, just let it breathe for a year,

1338
01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:22,479
Speaker 3: and then you can transition to someone else. That's all

1339
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:22,840
Speaker 3: that happens.

1340
01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:24,639
Speaker 2: Well, and then someone has to pay for those jerseys

1341
01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,440
Speaker 2: that got made though, right because he is a quarterback,

1342
01:11:27,479 --> 01:11:30,439
Speaker 2: which means you know, you're selling hope, and in Las

1343
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,600
Speaker 2: Vegas that means you're probably gonna sell a bunch of

1344
01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:36,400
Speaker 2: O'Connell jerseys because let's face it, Jimmy Garoppolos, you're number

1345
01:11:36,400 --> 01:11:40,160
Speaker 2: one and he doesn't get through seasons, so you may

1346
01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,559
Speaker 2: be pressed into action pretty fast, which means you might

1347
01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 2: have a lot of people jumping on board that bandwagon.

1348
01:11:46,240 --> 01:11:48,920
Speaker 2: And if you make a bunch of number four or whatever,

1349
01:11:49,000 --> 01:11:52,080
Speaker 2: number sixteen or whatever, and then you change it out,

1350
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 2: someone's got to pay for those, and he could change

1351
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:57,599
Speaker 2: numbers by the start of the season, but he doesn't.

1352
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:02,000
Speaker 3: It also allows the duck tape police to take their

1353
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:04,519
Speaker 3: Derek Carr jerseys and just put you know, some great

1354
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: duct tape and then they can write O'Connell after it.

1355
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think fanatics. I think they only have

1356
01:12:09,479 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 2: that deal with the NBA if changes teams or whatever.

1357
01:12:12,600 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 2: I don't think it applies to NFL guys that decide

1358
01:12:15,479 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 2: to change the numbers, don't. I don't think that cash

1359
01:12:18,439 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 2: back option or trade in is there. Hey Remider, Fox

1360
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,439
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. We're brought to you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive

1361
01:12:24,439 --> 01:12:27,280
Speaker 2: makes bundling easy and affordable. Get a multi policy discount

1362
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,160
Speaker 2: by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat, a TV and more

1363
01:12:30,439 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 2: all your protection in one place. Bundle and save at

1364
01:12:33,240 --> 01:12:36,639
Speaker 2: Progressive dot com. I mean this might be like when

1365
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan had his Jersey stolen ahead to wear number twelve.

1366
01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:40,760
Speaker 3: Mm hmm.

1367
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,639
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe that's all they brought. They brought a four

1368
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:47,800
Speaker 2: and it suddenly emerges in mini camps.

1369
01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:50,439
Speaker 3: Maybe it actually it may be, but it was just

1370
01:12:50,560 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 3: odd to see someone else in that number.

1371
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:54,640
Speaker 2: I have some other theories, but that's all behind the

1372
01:12:54,680 --> 01:12:58,920
Speaker 2: scenes stuff that I will not do to out some

1373
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 2: past performance is at Rookie premieres because it really was

1374
01:13:02,560 --> 01:13:05,160
Speaker 2: one of the great great places to meet some of

1375
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 2: these guys, and you know, they're having fun hanging out

1376
01:13:08,520 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 2: with each other, signing cards, playing catching, goofing around. So

1377
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 2: getting some off the wall answers as opposed to, you know,

1378
01:13:15,680 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: the car wash kind of thing that you normally get

1379
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:22,320
Speaker 2: with Q and A. They're still new to it, relatively speaking.

1380
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 3: Good times in the past.

1381
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:26,920
Speaker 2: No question about it. All right, We'll tell you what

1382
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:30,280
Speaker 2: cards to buy in a podcast to come. But coming

1383
01:13:30,320 --> 01:13:34,719
Speaker 2: out next, how the West was won? We talkeding Clint

1384
01:13:34,720 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 2: Eastwood movies. Maybe we are come back join the family

1385
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: next here on Fox. Oh, I love it. It's the

1386
01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 2: perfect song to get us ready for battle, to get

1387
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: the competitive juices flowing, and to bring the family together.

1388
01:13:48,479 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 3: Dan Byer, Mike Carmen, Let's play the feud here on

1389
01:13:55,080 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 3: Fox Sports Sunday. Mike Carmen, perfets, Ethan Miller, and Isaac

1390
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:08,160
Speaker 3: Lohingkron make up the Fox Family. I said, let's play

1391
01:14:08,160 --> 01:14:13,439
Speaker 3: the feud, all right. Top ten answers on the board, guys,

1392
01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:16,320
Speaker 3: this is what we're looking for. Three strikes in a

1393
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:25,000
Speaker 3: pass is available. NBA franchises that have won the Western

1394
01:14:25,040 --> 01:14:30,680
Speaker 3: Conference Finals, ten of them. Ten franchises have won the

1395
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:35,439
Speaker 3: Western Conference Finals. Mike Carmen, we start with you.

1396
01:14:36,479 --> 01:14:39,320
Speaker 2: I just go to the chalk, right, do I just

1397
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,080
Speaker 2: take the Lakers, even though they're gonna go.

1398
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:43,479
Speaker 3: Home, You can take them if you want. Yeah, show

1399
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 3: me the Lakers there they are on the board nineteen

1400
01:14:49,120 --> 01:14:52,679
Speaker 3: and they'll let you know all about it all their fans. Yes, yes,

1401
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:57,559
Speaker 3: all right, over to the boarding. Chris Purfett, good morning,

1402
01:14:57,720 --> 01:14:59,439
Speaker 3: Good morning morning. How are you uh?

1403
01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,960
Speaker 10: Give me the San Antonio Spurs, San Antonio Spurs. Show

1404
01:15:03,000 --> 01:15:05,519
Speaker 10: me the Spurs there they are. By the way, this

1405
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:08,360
Speaker 10: is all Wikipedia base. So if any of these are wrong,

1406
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:12,479
Speaker 10: any of these are wrong, blame Wikipedia.

1407
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,160
Speaker 2: A ruthless They'll keep that right now.

1408
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:17,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, good good. Ethan Miller, don't search Wikipedia, right now

1409
01:15:17,600 --> 01:15:20,640
Speaker 3: you just keep it, keep it clean. Franchises that have

1410
01:15:20,680 --> 01:15:23,160
Speaker 3: won the NBA's Western Conference Finals.

1411
01:15:22,760 --> 01:15:23,200
Speaker 2: Here we go.

1412
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:27,479
Speaker 3: I'm thinking Golden State Warriors. Golden State Warriors, obviously the

1413
01:15:27,520 --> 01:15:29,800
Speaker 3: heck they won it last year. Show me the Warriors

1414
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:32,479
Speaker 3: there they are. Golden State off the board. Over to

1415
01:15:32,520 --> 01:15:33,520
Speaker 3: Isaac Lohenkron.

1416
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:36,880
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with the Portland Trailblazers.

1417
01:15:37,080 --> 01:15:39,599
Speaker 3: It's been a while, but I know that they've won

1418
01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:44,240
Speaker 3: the Western Conference Finals. Show me the Portland Trailblazers. We're

1419
01:15:44,280 --> 01:15:46,799
Speaker 3: like the Boston Celtics of this year, like we're starting

1420
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 3: out good. I just wonder how we're gonna do downin Yes,

1421
01:15:50,320 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 3: Mike Carmen, over to you.

1422
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:54,280
Speaker 2: All right, reminder, we're brought to you live here in

1423
01:15:54,360 --> 01:15:57,719
Speaker 2: the tire rack dot Com Fox Sports Radio Studios. They're beautiful,

1424
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:00,719
Speaker 2: they're well lit, and I've got giant monitor to apprize

1425
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:03,080
Speaker 2: myself and everything going on in this sporting universe. How

1426
01:16:03,080 --> 01:16:06,240
Speaker 2: about the Phoenix Suns. Oh yeah, winning to go lose

1427
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 2: to my bulls and in my bucks. Show me the Suns.

1428
01:16:11,000 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 2: There they are. They're on the list as well. See

1429
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,719
Speaker 2: they're the show team of record three times.

1430
01:16:16,800 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 3: Three times. They've won the Western Finals over to Chris Purfett.

1431
01:16:20,600 --> 01:16:22,960
Speaker 3: Let's step back in time a little bit and show me.

1432
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:26,560
Speaker 3: Let me see if we got the Houston Rockets ah

1433
01:16:26,720 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 3: hopping in the way back machine. Show me the Houston Rockets. Yes,

1434
01:16:31,200 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 3: the Houston Rockets have won the Western Conference Finals over

1435
01:16:36,200 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 3: to Ethan Miller. No strikes and past still available. I'm

1436
01:16:41,040 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 3: gonna go with the Dallas Maverick. Dallas Mavericks. Heck, we

1437
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 3: just mentioned them a little while ago, right, show me

1438
01:16:47,320 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 3: the Dallas Mavericks. All right, the Mavericks off the board,

1439
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,519
Speaker 3: over to Isaac Lonkron.

1440
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:58,200
Speaker 6: Stuck in malone, stuck to them alone, stuck to a malone.

1441
01:16:58,920 --> 01:17:00,960
Speaker 2: We have a perfect game going right now.

1442
01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 3: Show me the Utah Jazz.

1443
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:06,759
Speaker 2: There they are, all right, eight for eight.

1444
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:11,160
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised, I am not shocked by this, but

1445
01:17:11,240 --> 01:17:15,439
Speaker 3: there are two teams left. Mike Carmen, over.

1446
01:17:15,280 --> 01:17:18,040
Speaker 2: To you, the Seattle super Sonics.

1447
01:17:19,080 --> 01:17:22,320
Speaker 3: Are we nine for nine? Show me the Sonics there

1448
01:17:22,360 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 3: they are. Thunder also works, so you can't say Oklahoma City.

1449
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:31,320
Speaker 3: Oh yes, yes, I know, all right, this is where

1450
01:17:31,320 --> 01:17:35,559
Speaker 3: the fun begins. Pass has disappeared. There's no longer a pass.

1451
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:41,240
Speaker 3: Nine for nine Chris for the perfect game franchises.

1452
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:47,840
Speaker 11: I'm gonna screw this up, I know so badly. Ah, Okay,

1453
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,000
Speaker 11: I need a reminder on who we've all had.

1454
01:17:50,160 --> 01:17:58,639
Speaker 3: Sure Lakers, Warriors, Spurs, Thunder Slash, Sonics, Rocket, Suns, Trailblazers, Jazz,

1455
01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:07,800
Speaker 3: and the Dallas map Bricks. Looking for NBA franchise NBA

1456
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 3: franchise is that have won the Western Conference. I'm trying

1457
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:15,200
Speaker 3: to remember if there's any that has like moved out

1458
01:18:15,640 --> 01:18:18,200
Speaker 3: from there at some point. Let's just do shot in

1459
01:18:18,200 --> 01:18:23,760
Speaker 3: the dark then, okay, shot in the dark. Minnesota Timberwolves.

1460
01:18:24,000 --> 01:18:24,439
Speaker 3: All right?

1461
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 2: Is it the Minnesota Timberwolves. I don't know, so you're

1462
01:18:28,160 --> 01:18:29,440
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to okay.

1463
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:32,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, it is not. It is not the Minnesota Timberwolves.

1464
01:18:33,000 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 3: There's a code word in there, Chris. That that's all.

1465
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 3: It's all good. All right over to Ethan Miller. Did

1466
01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:43,439
Speaker 3: you say the Sacramento Kings. I can't remember now your answer?

1467
01:18:43,560 --> 01:18:45,439
Speaker 3: That's my answer. If you didn't say, is it the

1468
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: Sacramento Kings. No, it's not.

1469
01:18:49,160 --> 01:18:50,000
Speaker 2: Oh no, it's not.

1470
01:18:50,120 --> 01:18:53,840
Speaker 3: That's why I'm shaking my head. Tell you the code

1471
01:18:53,840 --> 01:18:56,880
Speaker 3: words stood in the break? Sorry, Chris, all good, Isaac

1472
01:18:56,960 --> 01:18:59,080
Speaker 3: loh and Kron Can you save the day?

1473
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:01,360
Speaker 2: Was gonna be? I guess unless you give me another

1474
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 2: code word right now? No? All right? Wow, that sounded

1475
01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:07,920
Speaker 2: like Howard Dean.

1476
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 3: I know, oh Man is the reason why I asked

1477
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 3: this question. You just want any team, any team.

1478
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:21,639
Speaker 2: It was gonna be the Sacramento Kings.

1479
01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, show me the Is it the Kings again?

1480
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 3: It is not.

1481
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:29,240
Speaker 2: When they were in Rochester rules, Chris.

1482
01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:32,080
Speaker 3: Was on the right trail. The Milwaukee Bucks have won

1483
01:19:32,080 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 3: the Western Conference.

1484
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:41,240
Speaker 2: It feels so bad, so close. He's damn birol my

1485
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:45,240
Speaker 2: carbon Fox Sports Sunday continues, What are we trying to do?

1486
01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: Why can't we just let things breathe in sports? Because

1487
01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:54,400
Speaker 2: the show's today. Greetings, Welcome in hour three of the

1488
01:19:54,439 --> 01:19:58,479
Speaker 2: program Fox Sports Sunday, broadcasting live from the tyrack dot

1489
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,800
Speaker 2: com studios. Tyrackt We'll help you get there an unmatched selection, fast,

1490
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,840
Speaker 2: free shipping, free road hazard protection, and over ten thousand

1491
01:20:05,920 --> 01:20:10,599
Speaker 2: recommended installers tirerac dot com. The way tire buying should be.

1492
01:20:11,080 --> 01:20:13,720
Speaker 2: Mike Carman, Dan Bayer with you at Dan Bayer on

1493
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 2: Fox where you find them at buyer Grams at buyer

1494
01:20:17,040 --> 01:20:20,479
Speaker 2: talk on TikTok find me over at Swollen Dome and

1495
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:24,639
Speaker 2: all those places except for TikTok where it's harmon rants

1496
01:20:25,000 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 2: and I'm trying to be better Dan Good, to be

1497
01:20:26,760 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 2: better good. We're gonna start doing a lot of card talk,

1498
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: I think pretty soon.

1499
01:20:30,120 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 3: I'm interested because the collectibles arena is one that I

1500
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 3: am not as well versed in as you are. So

1501
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 3: I'm learning a lot. But that also means I have

1502
01:20:41,080 --> 01:20:43,559
Speaker 3: a lot of questions the stuff that's going.

1503
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,519
Speaker 2: And I've got answers. Maybe there's another podcast to be had.

1504
01:20:46,680 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 3: I can send them along to you.

1505
01:20:48,040 --> 01:20:51,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's a different it's a different world than

1506
01:20:51,680 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: always expanding, and it lends itself to this next conversation.

1507
01:20:56,160 --> 01:20:58,519
Speaker 2: We've got Hunter Maheon coming up in about twenty five

1508
01:20:58,600 --> 01:21:01,840
Speaker 2: minutes from now, talking pe Ga Championship and the meaning

1509
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:02,360
Speaker 2: of life.

1510
01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:05,880
Speaker 3: Yes, what we do on USS, well, you.

1511
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:08,040
Speaker 2: Know uniform talk. I mean, you know, you guys are

1512
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:11,639
Speaker 2: active in color schemes, end zones and uniforms. So we'll

1513
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,920
Speaker 2: get all of that talk in coming up about twenty

1514
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 2: five minutes. But we're talking a little bit collectible, some

1515
01:21:17,000 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: of the new releases out there and people spending a

1516
01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 2: bunch of money. And obviously this past week we had

1517
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: the NBA Draft lottery, and now you have a lot

1518
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: of thought pieces about it. All, Right, who's number two,

1519
01:21:30,720 --> 01:21:34,880
Speaker 2: who's number three? Because it's presumed and I think rightly so,

1520
01:21:35,400 --> 01:21:39,280
Speaker 2: Victor Winn Bayama coming out of France playing for the

1521
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:43,720
Speaker 2: Metropolitans ninety two will be the first overall pick. It

1522
01:21:43,760 --> 01:21:46,679
Speaker 2: goes to San Antonio. A lot of folks going, oh,

1523
01:21:46,720 --> 01:21:48,760
Speaker 2: they added a little extra juice to the end of

1524
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,519
Speaker 2: Greg Popovich's career so he doesn't walk away, and he

1525
01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,920
Speaker 2: gets another big men and you've got the France connection

1526
01:21:55,000 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 2: with Tony Parker, all of these things. See, it works

1527
01:21:57,720 --> 01:22:00,720
Speaker 2: and he's got all the mentors. But it up to

1528
01:22:00,840 --> 01:22:03,240
Speaker 2: the collectible side of things because a new product came

1529
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:08,760
Speaker 2: out that includes redemptions for a when Bayama autograph, and

1530
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:12,120
Speaker 2: the chase for those is intense and the first sales

1531
01:22:12,160 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 2: retracted about twenty five hundred dollars piece. Now, to put

1532
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:20,320
Speaker 2: it in perspective, you get two autographs per box, includes

1533
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 2: seven cards, multi sport, a lot of prospects, young players,

1534
01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:27,200
Speaker 2: a lot of guys just drafted in this last year's

1535
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,759
Speaker 2: NFL draft, and so the chase is on Caitlin Clark

1536
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 2: being the other principal. Iowa say, I'm not in today,

1537
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:38,920
Speaker 2: otherwise he'd be salivating over the prospect of it. But

1538
01:22:39,200 --> 01:22:43,479
Speaker 2: the Clerk cards are selling hugely the when Bayamas are

1539
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 2: only autographs. There's no regular card of him in this set,

1540
01:22:47,800 --> 01:22:51,040
Speaker 2: so it's the redemption or bust. And at about one

1541
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 2: hundred seventy to two hundred dollars per depending on where

1542
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,760
Speaker 2: you're buying it, local shop versus fanatics and tops and

1543
01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,080
Speaker 2: whatever that, you know, the chase is on and that

1544
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:04,800
Speaker 2: price point. You can go right now into the marketplace

1545
01:23:04,880 --> 01:23:07,920
Speaker 2: and buy an excellent mint Michael Jordan Rookie say from

1546
01:23:08,000 --> 01:23:11,600
Speaker 2: nineteen eighty six for about the same amount of money,

1547
01:23:11,479 --> 01:23:14,280
Speaker 2: maybe another one hundred or two more. So to put

1548
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:18,559
Speaker 2: it in perspective, and I do that specifically, Lebron James

1549
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:22,200
Speaker 2: still playing right now, down three to zero to the nuggets.

1550
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 2: Plenty of Rookie cards right Jordan has the Star Company stuff.

1551
01:23:26,680 --> 01:23:29,280
Speaker 2: And this is me going full nerd collectible. But bear

1552
01:23:29,320 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: with me. There's a point is that the eighty six

1553
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 2: Fleer set, you've seen the image a million times, you've

1554
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,960
Speaker 2: seen the sticker. Perhaps that goes along with at the

1555
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 2: twelve card sticker set that included a Jordan as well,

1556
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:47,280
Speaker 2: and iconic because at the peak of trading, when everything

1557
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,680
Speaker 2: was going insane during the pandemic and a lot of

1558
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:54,280
Speaker 2: money was funneling into the collectibles industry, Jordan PSA tens

1559
01:23:54,320 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 2: were selling near to seven figures. Right, that's how hot

1560
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:01,400
Speaker 2: things got. Now you can find one for the reasonable

1561
01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:04,679
Speaker 2: price of two hundred thousand dollars or their amounts today,

1562
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,880
Speaker 2: and good luck if you're buying them raw determining the

1563
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:11,840
Speaker 2: counterfeits that are out there. But that's a story for

1564
01:24:11,880 --> 01:24:15,240
Speaker 2: another day. But the idea just being that in this

1565
01:24:15,320 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 2: week's draft lottery and the chattered thereafter, it became all

1566
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:23,639
Speaker 2: about comparing to the greats. And we do this all

1567
01:24:23,680 --> 01:24:26,160
Speaker 2: the time. It's always the comps. Never to a guy

1568
01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,000
Speaker 2: that was a journeyman, the comps. Never to a guy

1569
01:24:29,000 --> 01:24:31,760
Speaker 2: who was a pretty good player, right, it's the how

1570
01:24:31,760 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: do we get him to the best? Like I saw

1571
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:36,160
Speaker 2: a couple of reviews for Women and Yama that I

1572
01:24:36,200 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 2: got excited about because they mentioned guys that were like

1573
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: multi time all stars but wouldn't be considered a top fifty.

1574
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:46,679
Speaker 2: It's like great, real good. We took some skill sets

1575
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,959
Speaker 2: of guys like Ralph Samson and some other guys and said,

1576
01:24:50,080 --> 01:24:52,400
Speaker 2: there's something there as opposed to you know what, he's

1577
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:55,559
Speaker 2: got to be this guy because while we're in the

1578
01:24:55,560 --> 01:24:57,799
Speaker 2: social media age, and he has to be the greatest

1579
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:00,320
Speaker 2: thing that has ever stepped foot on court. Do this

1580
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 2: every year with quarterbacks. We go straight to how they

1581
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,559
Speaker 2: compare to Tom Brady or Peyton Manning as opposed to

1582
01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:10,479
Speaker 2: a guy that has a nice twelve to fifteen year career,

1583
01:25:10,520 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: makes a couple of Pro Bowls and moves on. And

1584
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:14,800
Speaker 2: I get it. The hype is real. You're talking about

1585
01:25:14,800 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 2: an eight foot wingspan, talking about being able to run

1586
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:21,040
Speaker 2: the court, see the court, shoot from the outside. All

1587
01:25:21,040 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 2: of these things that we've seen in snippets and a

1588
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 2: couple of games have made their way to the States,

1589
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,400
Speaker 2: and you can certainly YouTube a ton of it, Dan,

1590
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:32,280
Speaker 2: But you know, the point being that the comparison generational.

1591
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,479
Speaker 2: The last one is Lebron James. And I go back

1592
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 2: to the rookie card thing, because there's a lot of

1593
01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:39,439
Speaker 2: Lebron James rookie cards and it's just a matter of

1594
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 2: what price point you want to get into because some

1595
01:25:42,040 --> 01:25:45,479
Speaker 2: of those are upwards of the seven figures at their

1596
01:25:45,520 --> 01:25:49,559
Speaker 2: peak as well the upper deck exquisites of the year's

1597
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:53,400
Speaker 2: gone by. But just the collectibles industry, just in this

1598
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:57,120
Speaker 2: one little snippet showed you already like, yeah, we're gonna

1599
01:25:57,120 --> 01:26:00,080
Speaker 2: we're gonna bet big on this guy to be the

1600
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,840
Speaker 2: next great thing, just like every pundit has decided they've

1601
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:06,000
Speaker 2: got a stand on the side of this guy's gonna

1602
01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,560
Speaker 2: be the greatest thing, well since slice bread, since we

1603
01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:11,479
Speaker 2: love slice bread so much. And I'm like, what what

1604
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:12,320
Speaker 2: are we doing?

1605
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:19,120
Speaker 3: Well, there's the NBA this year, ventover backwards promoting Victor

1606
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:23,160
Speaker 3: wembin Yama playing in France. Sure they never did that

1607
01:26:23,240 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 3: with any player that played college basketball, didn't at all,

1608
01:26:27,680 --> 01:26:31,320
Speaker 3: would not show any highlights. I don't know if there

1609
01:26:31,320 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: are legal reasons, Mike, I am not sure.

1610
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:35,920
Speaker 2: Play it seems like you have the rights, I mean

1611
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:40,600
Speaker 2: to go through right in with your broadcast partners, ESPN, ABC.

1612
01:26:41,479 --> 01:26:44,439
Speaker 3: I would think that I would think that you'd be

1613
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:48,920
Speaker 3: able to because this was it was a year long

1614
01:26:49,120 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: thing in waiting for Victor wembin Yama to come to

1615
01:26:51,880 --> 01:26:54,439
Speaker 3: the league, so much so that the league was actively

1616
01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:57,760
Speaker 3: promoting him playing in a different league. I understand all

1617
01:26:57,800 --> 01:26:59,880
Speaker 3: of that. I understand the hype of all of that,

1618
01:27:00,600 --> 01:27:05,080
Speaker 3: but this past week is the exact reason why the

1619
01:27:05,200 --> 01:27:09,480
Speaker 3: NBA is so tiring and why it is so exhausting

1620
01:27:09,560 --> 01:27:12,719
Speaker 3: to watch and Mike. It is also a reason why

1621
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 3: the interest in the regular season has gone down because

1622
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,200
Speaker 3: it is so long, it is so taxing, and because

1623
01:27:20,240 --> 01:27:24,040
Speaker 3: of what we have done to Victor Wembinyama just this week.

1624
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:29,879
Speaker 3: Player comparisons are nothing new, nothing new in sports, Comparing

1625
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:34,639
Speaker 3: you know, Lebron to Magic Johnson when he's coming out,

1626
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:38,400
Speaker 3: or however, Michael, all of that is, all of that

1627
01:27:38,520 --> 01:27:42,439
Speaker 3: is is fair, but is what has now become taxing

1628
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 3: is saying that Victor Wembinyama needs to reach this certain

1629
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,920
Speaker 3: level to be considered worthy of the pick, to be

1630
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:59,400
Speaker 3: considered that he paid off for all of the hype.

1631
01:28:00,120 --> 01:28:03,439
Speaker 3: It was a week long rush of everyone trying to

1632
01:28:03,479 --> 01:28:07,639
Speaker 3: get their first Victor Wembinyama takes in so they could

1633
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:11,400
Speaker 3: secure those takes Mike for the next fifteen years. And

1634
01:28:11,439 --> 01:28:17,000
Speaker 3: that is what is so frustrating as just a fan

1635
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:23,040
Speaker 3: of it. He's not even he's not even on the

1636
01:28:23,080 --> 01:28:28,000
Speaker 3: Spurs yet. We know he's going to be, but it

1637
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: is so early in the process that we have already

1638
01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:38,320
Speaker 3: come to this point of putting expectations on Victor Wembinyama

1639
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:43,920
Speaker 3: that will be very, very hard to match. And Lebron James,

1640
01:28:44,000 --> 01:28:46,719
Speaker 3: I think, because of the success that he has had

1641
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:51,000
Speaker 3: is now the reason why people think like, well, look

1642
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,400
Speaker 3: we did it to Lebron, and not only did Lebron

1643
01:28:53,479 --> 01:28:57,800
Speaker 3: reach these expectations, he's likely surpassed them. And some feel

1644
01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,760
Speaker 3: that Lebron is the best player ever. We're gonna do

1645
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:04,080
Speaker 3: this with Victor Wembinyama. I don't know how this week

1646
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:07,479
Speaker 3: should have gone, Mike, in terms of the Spurs winning

1647
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,960
Speaker 3: the lottery and what Victor webbin Yama is going to

1648
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 3: bring to the Spurs and bring to the NBA. Well,

1649
01:29:13,120 --> 01:29:17,439
Speaker 3: whatever we got this week, it was tiresome, it was old,

1650
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:19,880
Speaker 3: and it's a reason why I think people lose interest

1651
01:29:20,439 --> 01:29:21,040
Speaker 3: in the NBA.

1652
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,640
Speaker 2: I think there's a couple of things to take off that.

1653
01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:27,280
Speaker 2: Number One, when we talk about the regular season, how

1654
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,200
Speaker 2: much of the regular season is talking about next season?

1655
01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 3: A lot of it's.

1656
01:29:32,439 --> 01:29:36,280
Speaker 2: Right who's getting traded? Whose contract is up? These guys

1657
01:29:36,320 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 2: are rumored to be in a little bit of a tiff.

1658
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:41,599
Speaker 2: Will they be around come the you know, trade deadline

1659
01:29:41,600 --> 01:29:45,439
Speaker 2: in the All Star break. That's that's a lot of

1660
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: the air that's in the room and photo shopping guys

1661
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:50,800
Speaker 2: into different jerseys. Now we're not even out of we

1662
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:52,800
Speaker 2: weren't out of the playoffs, or they weren't out of

1663
01:29:52,800 --> 01:29:55,759
Speaker 2: the playoffs, and was well, James Harden is not coming

1664
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:59,240
Speaker 2: back to the Sixers, right and now it's oh they

1665
01:30:00,040 --> 01:30:03,200
Speaker 2: rumored reunion with Houston is in the offing. Okay, fine,

1666
01:30:03,439 --> 01:30:06,080
Speaker 2: but that's that's what the season is anymore, that's what

1667
01:30:06,120 --> 01:30:08,600
Speaker 2: the playoffs are anymore. Well, I mean, look at the

1668
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:11,000
Speaker 2: Lakers down three to zero now, But the last couple

1669
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:14,439
Speaker 2: of weeks as much of look at this run, look

1670
01:30:14,479 --> 01:30:18,400
Speaker 2: at what they've done. Perhaps an over celebration of different

1671
01:30:18,439 --> 01:30:21,439
Speaker 2: facets of the game. Either way, they're here, But it

1672
01:30:21,479 --> 01:30:24,479
Speaker 2: became about can they keep Austin Reeves Like that's been

1673
01:30:24,520 --> 01:30:26,799
Speaker 2: a hot talking point now for a couple of weeks,

1674
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:29,880
Speaker 2: joking about how much more money he was making with

1675
01:30:29,920 --> 01:30:32,639
Speaker 2: every big effort. And through three games of this series,

1676
01:30:33,280 --> 01:30:36,120
Speaker 2: you're telling me there's not a bunch of mid and

1677
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,600
Speaker 2: lower tier teams that wouldn't just love a guy to

1678
01:30:38,640 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 2: come in as a guy who's become a bit of

1679
01:30:41,240 --> 01:30:44,320
Speaker 2: a folk hero and can fill it up as he

1680
01:30:44,360 --> 01:30:46,960
Speaker 2: can when his shot is on. Yeah, that's the way

1681
01:30:47,000 --> 01:30:51,639
Speaker 2: it works. But the Lebron being the generational guy, Okay,

1682
01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,679
Speaker 2: you hit one how many many shots and misses?

1683
01:30:54,720 --> 01:30:54,960
Speaker 3: Sure?

1684
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 2: Right, it's the Dwayne Gretzky shoot. You miss one hundred

1685
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,519
Speaker 2: percent of the shots you don't take. But that's what

1686
01:30:59,560 --> 01:31:02,160
Speaker 2: we do, seemingly every time there's a prospect is we

1687
01:31:02,240 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 2: got to build it up. And with Lebron, let's rehit

1688
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:07,599
Speaker 2: the old rewind button. To two thousand and three, social

1689
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:12,360
Speaker 2: media was nothing. You had magazines. You had to go

1690
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: get a magazine. Because how many times do you see that,

1691
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 2: Like even the Michael Jordan Air movie. It's like, look

1692
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:20,480
Speaker 2: at the magazines. You can be on the magazine magazines.

1693
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: You know, magazine stands. At this point, it's vanity projects

1694
01:31:27,000 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 2: for folks is as much as anything anymore. It's all

1695
01:31:30,680 --> 01:31:33,560
Speaker 2: social media and wherever else and driving the hype. And

1696
01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:36,240
Speaker 2: I hope it pays off. You know, maybe I'll be

1697
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:38,160
Speaker 2: the outlier just say you know what, he's not achieving

1698
01:31:38,160 --> 01:31:38,880
Speaker 2: the sites.

1699
01:31:38,960 --> 01:31:41,680
Speaker 3: Well, i'll tell you what. There are gonna be a

1700
01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:43,280
Speaker 3: lot of people if he has a bad game, that

1701
01:31:43,320 --> 01:31:44,400
Speaker 3: are gonna say that he's not.

1702
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:46,160
Speaker 2: It's gonna take a game or a week.

1703
01:31:46,520 --> 01:31:49,040
Speaker 3: It's I mean, and think about that. We're talking about

1704
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,200
Speaker 3: like one game or two games over what could be

1705
01:31:51,240 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 3: a guy's fifteen to twenty year career that, by the way,

1706
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,599
Speaker 3: hasn't even started yet because he hasn't even been drafted

1707
01:31:56,640 --> 01:31:58,439
Speaker 3: by the team that we think that he's going to

1708
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:01,920
Speaker 3: be on. And it's just it is It to me

1709
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:05,719
Speaker 3: is if you want to have a discussion and talk

1710
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:09,280
Speaker 3: with your buddies and say, I think that the Spurs

1711
01:32:09,280 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 3: are going to make the playoffs in the West and

1712
01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 3: next season because of Victor women Yama totally cool with that.

1713
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,640
Speaker 3: I am one hundred percent on board on that. But

1714
01:32:17,720 --> 01:32:21,000
Speaker 3: when you start naming greats and you try to encompass

1715
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: your career and who knows how long he's gonna play,

1716
01:32:25,160 --> 01:32:29,280
Speaker 3: it's just the value it is. It is so reflective

1717
01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: to me on why the NBA has taking a turn

1718
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:35,920
Speaker 3: that could just be so taxing to follow, because you

1719
01:32:35,960 --> 01:32:38,560
Speaker 3: know how hard it is to live up to those expectations.

1720
01:32:39,080 --> 01:32:41,519
Speaker 3: Look at what look at what Nikola Jokic has had

1721
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 3: to do, and the Denver Nuggets have had to do,

1722
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:47,200
Speaker 3: have had to do just for us to be able

1723
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,479
Speaker 3: to appreciate his two MVPs that he's had.

1724
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,160
Speaker 2: Well, we talked about it at the beginning of the show.

1725
01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: How many national pundits people that get paid like literally

1726
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:58,240
Speaker 2: are part of the broadcast. We're talking about what a

1727
01:32:58,320 --> 01:33:02,000
Speaker 2: marvel at a revelation like you've been this guy. Yes,

1728
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:05,360
Speaker 2: there's nothing new like going back to the card industry

1729
01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:07,519
Speaker 2: because again we're having this conversation off air, but it

1730
01:33:07,680 --> 01:33:10,479
Speaker 2: lends to this conversation of you could have pulled, like

1731
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:13,120
Speaker 2: up until about two weeks ago, you could go into

1732
01:33:13,160 --> 01:33:16,120
Speaker 2: one of these high end products and pull one of

1733
01:33:16,320 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 2: five nicolea Jokic with a piece of a diamond and

1734
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,920
Speaker 2: an autograph or whatever, and people are like, all right,

1735
01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:25,160
Speaker 2: that's an okay hit. And now it's like I got

1736
01:33:25,160 --> 01:33:27,280
Speaker 2: the two time MVP I got all like, now there's

1737
01:33:27,280 --> 01:33:29,680
Speaker 2: an excitement beyond it. Back then, it was all right,

1738
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:33,040
Speaker 2: that's I mean, it's better than getting you know, the

1739
01:33:33,080 --> 01:33:36,640
Speaker 2: first reserve coming off the bulls bench. But you know

1740
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:39,600
Speaker 2: that kind of thing where it's it's all about perception

1741
01:33:39,960 --> 01:33:44,439
Speaker 2: and recognition overall, And here we immediately go straight to

1742
01:33:44,520 --> 01:33:47,320
Speaker 2: the hyperbole and I get it. That's the business the

1743
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:50,839
Speaker 2: show is today. Everything's either the greatest or the worst.

1744
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 2: I try to be more nuanced. Maybe that's why I'm

1745
01:33:53,120 --> 01:33:56,160
Speaker 2: not making seven figures, uh and being.

1746
01:33:56,160 --> 01:34:00,439
Speaker 3: It's not about that sort of stuff. It's not about that.

1747
01:34:00,600 --> 01:34:05,439
Speaker 3: It's of what is Why is the member Mark Cuban

1748
01:34:05,520 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 3: of the famous you know line you know, pigs get

1749
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:14,200
Speaker 3: slaughtered when talking about the NFL outlaugh or whatever, you know,

1750
01:34:14,360 --> 01:34:17,400
Speaker 3: the of like at some point you know you're gonna

1751
01:34:18,120 --> 01:34:23,000
Speaker 3: and that's like and it turned around to backfire on him.

1752
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:26,000
Speaker 3: It's why it's turned with with the NBA because everything

1753
01:34:26,720 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 3: you know, it's difficult to enjoy anything in the NBA.

1754
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:33,439
Speaker 3: It really truly is. We can't even enjoy an MVP

1755
01:34:33,640 --> 01:34:35,960
Speaker 3: without saying this other guy should have won it. And

1756
01:34:36,000 --> 01:34:39,800
Speaker 3: now you're going to take a guy's career before it

1757
01:34:39,800 --> 01:34:44,120
Speaker 3: has even started and put these expectations on it that

1758
01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:47,360
Speaker 3: I get is the most hype and it's just the

1759
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:51,200
Speaker 3: let's just slow down a bit, that's all it is.

1760
01:34:51,280 --> 01:34:54,840
Speaker 3: Let's enjoy the ride, because once the journey ends, you're

1761
01:34:54,840 --> 01:34:56,519
Speaker 3: going to realize that it was the ride that was

1762
01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:59,040
Speaker 3: the whole fun part. And I think with the NBA

1763
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:03,040
Speaker 3: we get so long, and this past week with Victor Wembanyama,

1764
01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:04,559
Speaker 3: I didn't want him to go to the Spurs because

1765
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 3: Spurs have hit too many you know, Robinson and Duncan sure,

1766
01:35:07,400 --> 01:35:09,920
Speaker 3: you know in that case, and I joked about the

1767
01:35:10,040 --> 01:35:12,439
Speaker 3: NBA should rig it, and then I thought about it,

1768
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:14,880
Speaker 3: like maybe they did because they didn't want wemban Yama

1769
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 3: to go somewhere where you wouldn't be taken care of

1770
01:35:17,400 --> 01:35:19,960
Speaker 3: and allowed to blossom into the talent that that they.

1771
01:35:20,360 --> 01:35:22,800
Speaker 2: Guy with the track record of pop vid. Like, there's

1772
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:26,679
Speaker 2: so many things that for those that try to espouse

1773
01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,880
Speaker 2: the tinfoil hat conspiracy, there is the NBA. Him going

1774
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:34,240
Speaker 2: to the Spurs didn't help kick any of those away.

1775
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 3: It's well, it's it's just it's just I just want

1776
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:41,919
Speaker 3: to enjoy it. I just want to enjoy.

1777
01:35:42,280 --> 01:35:44,759
Speaker 2: Became a great you know, that's a great mini sermon

1778
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:48,439
Speaker 2: from Dan Bayer here on a Sunday. It's stealing straight

1779
01:35:48,520 --> 01:35:53,600
Speaker 2: from harassment. Yeah, life's a journey, not a destination. Boom.

1780
01:35:53,840 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 2: I just can't wait to see what tomorrow brings. He's

1781
01:35:56,479 --> 01:35:58,679
Speaker 2: Dan Byer, I'll buy carbon. You know what is coming

1782
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:01,240
Speaker 2: up next? Hunter Mayhan's going to join us talk all

1783
01:36:01,280 --> 01:36:06,840
Speaker 2: about PGA Championship, maybe some jersey talk, maybe he and

1784
01:36:06,880 --> 01:36:10,680
Speaker 2: some helmets, color schemes. Reminder. Fox Sports Sunday brought to

1785
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,519
Speaker 2: you by Progressive Insurance. Progressive makes bundling easy and affordable.

1786
01:36:13,640 --> 01:36:16,759
Speaker 2: Get a multi policy discount by combining your motorcycle, RV, boat,

1787
01:36:17,000 --> 01:36:19,839
Speaker 2: ATV and more all your production at one place. Bundle

1788
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 2: and say at Progressive dot com. Our special guests coming

1789
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:26,599
Speaker 2: up next talking all things PGA. Come on with us

1790
01:36:26,680 --> 01:36:30,080
Speaker 2: here on Fox Welcome back in It's Fox Sports Sunday,

1791
01:36:30,200 --> 01:36:33,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio, Mike Harmon alongside Dan Bayer watching a

1792
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 2: little action on the pitch PGA Championship. So much going

1793
01:36:38,640 --> 01:36:40,760
Speaker 2: on in the sporting universe, Dan, We talked a lot

1794
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:44,200
Speaker 2: of NBA playoffs over the course of the morning, and

1795
01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:49,280
Speaker 2: we did get a comment on the Wembin Yama conversation

1796
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:52,080
Speaker 2: that we just had over on the Twitter verse at

1797
01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:54,639
Speaker 2: Dan Byron Fox at Swollen Dome. You want to chime

1798
01:36:54,680 --> 01:36:57,280
Speaker 2: in on anything we talk about here and I chuckled

1799
01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 2: and the response was, maybe it says more about the

1800
01:37:01,000 --> 01:37:04,040
Speaker 2: media than the NBA. I'm like, oh, you're right, and

1801
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:07,120
Speaker 2: I mean it's the thirst for next and greatest, and

1802
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:10,360
Speaker 2: I mean that's how we treat so many things like

1803
01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:13,720
Speaker 2: there's no slow burn on any of this, no hot

1804
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,520
Speaker 2: take nonsense rules today.

1805
01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:21,320
Speaker 3: Well there's there are Listen when we talk about Major

1806
01:37:21,360 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: League Baseball, a narrative that is incorrect is ha, man,

1807
01:37:25,680 --> 01:37:28,680
Speaker 3: what's wrong with baseball? Baseball in certain markets across the

1808
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,639
Speaker 3: country hot. And guess what, every summer there are markets

1809
01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:36,960
Speaker 3: across the country hot. Same thing with college basketball. I

1810
01:37:37,000 --> 01:37:40,080
Speaker 3: get like in the NBA that they're you know, Sacramento

1811
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 3: all about the Kings. Obviously Denver Mile High with their

1812
01:37:43,360 --> 01:37:47,520
Speaker 3: nuggets pun intended in that aspect, but the general conversation,

1813
01:37:47,680 --> 01:37:52,680
Speaker 3: whether it be sports media or not. I see it

1814
01:37:52,720 --> 01:37:55,280
Speaker 3: on social media a lot, and you see it on TV,

1815
01:37:55,479 --> 01:37:58,320
Speaker 3: you see it in places where it is a big

1816
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 3: picture sort of thing, and that that's what That's what

1817
01:38:00,920 --> 01:38:03,599
Speaker 3: I think is so tiring as well, is because these

1818
01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:07,000
Speaker 3: are the things that move the machine along. You and

1819
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:08,840
Speaker 3: I as buddies can have a talk about the NBA

1820
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:11,519
Speaker 3: and be fine with it, but we're talking about a

1821
01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:15,919
Speaker 3: broad blanketing of the conversation of the NBA and predicting

1822
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,880
Speaker 3: what Victor wimbin Yama is going to be twenty years

1823
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:21,240
Speaker 3: from now to me is just asinine. It's it's absurd.

1824
01:38:21,280 --> 01:38:23,439
Speaker 3: You can, you can have expectations for him, but to

1825
01:38:23,800 --> 01:38:26,080
Speaker 3: put limits on who he is and where he can play,

1826
01:38:26,080 --> 01:38:28,080
Speaker 3: and he's got to reach this level of player otherwise

1827
01:38:28,200 --> 01:38:30,920
Speaker 3: he's not a success. It's just dumb if you ask me.

1828
01:38:32,520 --> 01:38:35,639
Speaker 3: All right, let's let's shift gears because today I'm gonna

1829
01:38:35,680 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 3: be on the recliner sitting back, not watching a saggy

1830
01:38:38,439 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 3: Okaill Mike we got Son. The sun is out, Yeah,

1831
01:38:41,360 --> 01:38:43,559
Speaker 3: the sun is out. Joining us now to talk about

1832
01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,639
Speaker 3: the funerund of the PGA Championship is a guy who's

1833
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:50,120
Speaker 3: played in PGA Championship, had a top ten finished twenty fourteen,

1834
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:53,559
Speaker 3: played at Okhill in twenty thirteen. Hunter Mahan joins the

1835
01:38:53,560 --> 01:38:56,360
Speaker 3: progress here on Fox Sports Radio. Hunter doing work with

1836
01:38:56,439 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 3: Serious XM and PGA Tour Radio during the PGA Championship. Hunter,

1837
01:39:01,040 --> 01:39:03,519
Speaker 3: it is so great to talk to you again. How

1838
01:39:03,520 --> 01:39:05,559
Speaker 3: are you doing well?

1839
01:39:05,560 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 12: Thanks for having me on, Dan. We've had a great week.

1840
01:39:09,320 --> 01:39:13,200
Speaker 12: It's been an absolutely fantastic PGA. The course is an

1841
01:39:13,240 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 12: incredible shape. The top players have come up and played really,

1842
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:18,880
Speaker 12: really well. I think we were set up for an

1843
01:39:18,880 --> 01:39:22,479
Speaker 12: incredible finish with quite a few guys in the mix,

1844
01:39:22,520 --> 01:39:24,400
Speaker 12: and I think this golf course is going to set

1845
01:39:24,479 --> 01:39:26,479
Speaker 12: up where a lot of things can happen.

1846
01:39:26,479 --> 01:39:26,759
Speaker 2: Today.

1847
01:39:26,840 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 3: I know that Okill isn't the same o'kill that you

1848
01:39:28,920 --> 01:39:32,760
Speaker 3: played a decade ago. Changes made to it a redesign,

1849
01:39:33,560 --> 01:39:37,160
Speaker 3: But but where is this course that we now see,

1850
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, once a decade hosting a major championship, and

1851
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:45,280
Speaker 3: it's got major championship pedigree in its history, But where

1852
01:39:45,439 --> 01:39:48,639
Speaker 3: is an o'kill among the great courses that we see

1853
01:39:48,680 --> 01:39:50,680
Speaker 3: across the country in your opinion.

1854
01:39:51,720 --> 01:39:54,160
Speaker 12: Well, whenever I hear you know, Donald Ross, I get

1855
01:39:54,160 --> 01:39:58,439
Speaker 12: excited because of his pederigory for making really interesting golf

1856
01:39:58,439 --> 01:40:02,160
Speaker 12: courses that don't just made generally one player. But when

1857
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,040
Speaker 12: you talk about redesigns, it always makes me nervous. But

1858
01:40:05,160 --> 01:40:07,880
Speaker 12: I think the reasons that redesigned the time they spent

1859
01:40:07,960 --> 01:40:10,320
Speaker 12: on this golf course. You look at the leaderboard, you

1860
01:40:10,360 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 12: look at some of the players who have played well.

1861
01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 12: They're players from rookies to veterans, to guys who had

1862
01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 12: a really long for guys who want to play more

1863
01:40:16,600 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 12: fairways to greens. I think they've done a great job

1864
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,760
Speaker 12: setting up a golf course that's challenging the players from

1865
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:25,439
Speaker 12: every single aspect of their games. But at the same time,

1866
01:40:25,479 --> 01:40:27,479
Speaker 12: it doesn't truly just favorite one player. You can play

1867
01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 12: a lot of different ways. This golf course has changed

1868
01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:33,559
Speaker 12: a lot since I've played it. They've taken out a

1869
01:40:33,560 --> 01:40:36,160
Speaker 12: ton of trees, they've redesigned the greens. But right now,

1870
01:40:36,200 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 12: this is every player that we've listened to has been saying,

1871
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:43,080
Speaker 12: this is a really great, great test. It's difficult, but

1872
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,839
Speaker 12: it's extremely fair. So this is guys are really enjoying

1873
01:40:45,840 --> 01:40:49,320
Speaker 12: this week and no one's really complaining about the setup

1874
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,519
Speaker 12: or this or that. The roughs to this, the fringes

1875
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,519
Speaker 12: are to this. It's been in a druable week for

1876
01:40:53,560 --> 01:40:56,240
Speaker 12: all the guys. I know, I've enjoyed calling it for

1877
01:40:56,240 --> 01:40:58,760
Speaker 12: a serious sextime and I think it's you know, it's

1878
01:40:58,800 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 12: been a huge access for the PGA.

1879
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:03,240
Speaker 2: Well, the only complaint after today if it goes awry

1880
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:08,040
Speaker 2: for them. Michael Block, the story of the tournament hunter,

1881
01:41:08,280 --> 01:41:11,639
Speaker 2: How cool is it to cover this? How much attention

1882
01:41:12,439 --> 01:41:14,760
Speaker 2: and background checks did you have to do on the

1883
01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:18,880
Speaker 2: serious XM coverage of this? As he gets ready to

1884
01:41:19,000 --> 01:41:20,679
Speaker 2: tee off in round four.

1885
01:41:21,560 --> 01:41:24,040
Speaker 12: Well, Johnson Wagner has been in with us and he

1886
01:41:24,080 --> 01:41:28,720
Speaker 12: actually called the PGAVE America Championship the qualification to get

1887
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:30,240
Speaker 12: into this, so he has a little bit of history

1888
01:41:30,240 --> 01:41:33,320
Speaker 12: with him and saw him play. He talked pretty glowingly

1889
01:41:33,400 --> 01:41:35,519
Speaker 12: about his skill set and about how good a player

1890
01:41:35,520 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 12: he was. And I mean yesterday, I think we were

1891
01:41:38,120 --> 01:41:41,720
Speaker 12: all sort of curious with the conditions and the Saturday

1892
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:45,040
Speaker 12: being playing. For the first few days it was great,

1893
01:41:45,160 --> 01:41:46,880
Speaker 12: but then it gets real when you make the weekend

1894
01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:49,280
Speaker 12: and all of a sudden you're playing with Justin Rose

1895
01:41:49,479 --> 01:41:53,080
Speaker 12: and you're basically a contention almost all day. And he

1896
01:41:53,160 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 12: did a great job. He kept his poise, he kept

1897
01:41:56,560 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 12: his head about him. He seemed focused, which is what

1898
01:41:59,520 --> 01:42:01,639
Speaker 12: you have to do. You can't be kind of like, oh,

1899
01:42:01,680 --> 01:42:03,000
Speaker 12: this is just for fun, and all of a sudden

1900
01:42:03,040 --> 01:42:05,080
Speaker 12: things you can get away from you pretty quickly. He's

1901
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,479
Speaker 12: done a great job handling all the success this week,

1902
01:42:09,120 --> 01:42:11,559
Speaker 12: and I think he's enjoying it. And at the same

1903
01:42:11,600 --> 01:42:14,439
Speaker 12: time he's coming out with goals and a purpose of

1904
01:42:14,479 --> 01:42:16,360
Speaker 12: each round. And I think he hasn't shot over Powar

1905
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,000
Speaker 12: yes three straight seventies, and so I think he must

1906
01:42:19,080 --> 01:42:20,599
Speaker 12: keep that momentum going and he's gonna have a lot

1907
01:42:20,600 --> 01:42:20,840
Speaker 12: of fun.

1908
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:25,040
Speaker 3: And Rory Hunter Mayhan joining us here on Fox Sports Radio.

1909
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:28,880
Speaker 3: He's Mike Carmen. I'm Dan Byer talking PGA Championship. If

1910
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 3: brooks Kepka gets it done today, and I just railed

1911
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:36,160
Speaker 3: on everybody predicting Victor woman yam in twenty.

1912
01:42:36,000 --> 01:42:38,519
Speaker 2: Years, but it's only one day that he trying to do.

1913
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:42,000
Speaker 3: We have evidence on what brooks Kepka has done. If

1914
01:42:42,040 --> 01:42:46,880
Speaker 3: he gets major number five, where does this put him

1915
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:51,639
Speaker 3: in terms of history of the game? Is big hunter,

1916
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,960
Speaker 3: But when we talk about recent history of the game,

1917
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,519
Speaker 3: what would that do for brooks Kopka?

1918
01:42:57,640 --> 01:43:01,160
Speaker 12: It's okay. So I kind of went online and was

1919
01:43:01,200 --> 01:43:04,680
Speaker 12: kind of looking around at the major winners, right, you

1920
01:43:04,680 --> 01:43:08,760
Speaker 12: know he's got obviously, you know Tiger and Jack at

1921
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:12,720
Speaker 12: the top. Jacks got eighteen, Tigers got fifteen wins. Well,

1922
01:43:12,800 --> 01:43:15,599
Speaker 12: Jack has won seventy three times on tour. Tigers won

1923
01:43:15,840 --> 01:43:19,799
Speaker 12: like eighty two, tied for most of all time. Dustin

1924
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:22,600
Speaker 12: Johnson's got two majors and he's won twenty four times.

1925
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,000
Speaker 12: Justin Thomas's got two majors and he's won fifteen times

1926
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 12: on tour. The crazy thing with Brooks is he's won

1927
01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:31,960
Speaker 12: four majors and he's got eight PJA Tour wins. So

1928
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:35,280
Speaker 12: I don't know how it's a difficult thing to rank

1929
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,519
Speaker 12: him because he has three times left wins than Dustin

1930
01:43:39,560 --> 01:43:43,120
Speaker 12: Johnson on the PJA Tour. I don't know how to

1931
01:43:43,200 --> 01:43:47,719
Speaker 12: rank him from like from a historical perspective, like he's great.

1932
01:43:47,760 --> 01:43:50,320
Speaker 12: I mean, right now, he is a fantastic player, Like

1933
01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:53,840
Speaker 12: he went through his obviously knee injuries, and he went

1934
01:43:53,880 --> 01:43:56,280
Speaker 12: through this time where it was a very strange, he

1935
01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:58,479
Speaker 12: wasn't playing that much. He went to live he haven't

1936
01:43:58,520 --> 01:44:00,559
Speaker 12: seen him much. Comes back at Augusta. He looks like

1937
01:44:01,680 --> 01:44:03,760
Speaker 12: the Brooks of Olds. But I don't know how to

1938
01:44:04,160 --> 01:44:09,640
Speaker 12: place him in history when you know guys like you know,

1939
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,120
Speaker 12: just guys like Watson, Well, he's got eight majors. Me

1940
01:44:13,120 --> 01:44:15,519
Speaker 12: he's won probably forty fifty times on tour. You know,

1941
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:19,320
Speaker 12: Nicholson's won forty three times on tour. He's got six majors.

1942
01:44:19,360 --> 01:44:23,080
Speaker 12: So I don't like it's really impressive. But at the

1943
01:44:23,120 --> 01:44:24,880
Speaker 12: same time, is he a top ten player all the time?

1944
01:44:24,920 --> 01:44:27,160
Speaker 12: We'll know, is he a top twenty player at the time.

1945
01:44:27,560 --> 01:44:29,720
Speaker 12: Maybe I don't know how to rank him. I don't

1946
01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,640
Speaker 12: know how you take a guy he's won like a

1947
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:34,280
Speaker 12: like a you know, at Dustin Johnson. He's got two

1948
01:44:34,280 --> 01:44:36,920
Speaker 12: majors and twenty four wins. That's three times as many

1949
01:44:36,960 --> 01:44:40,519
Speaker 12: wins on the tour as Brooks has. So I'll leave

1950
01:44:40,560 --> 01:44:41,960
Speaker 12: that up to you. I don't know how you want

1951
01:44:41,960 --> 01:44:44,240
Speaker 12: to rank it. I think Dustin's had a much better career.

1952
01:44:44,240 --> 01:44:47,240
Speaker 12: He's been much more consistent. But Brooks has been absolutely

1953
01:44:47,280 --> 01:44:50,200
Speaker 12: a stallion in these majors. He's an absolute stud. I mean,

1954
01:44:50,520 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 12: you're not going to take that away from him. But

1955
01:44:52,120 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 12: I don't know really how to rank him. It's kind

1956
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:58,080
Speaker 12: of a strange, confusing, you know, trend that he has.

1957
01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:01,240
Speaker 3: I think Phil's work over the la last three plus

1958
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:05,519
Speaker 3: decades led a lot to his six. It's tough to

1959
01:45:05,560 --> 01:45:08,479
Speaker 3: put Kopka in the same breath as Sevy Biasteros is

1960
01:45:08,520 --> 01:45:08,840
Speaker 3: a boy.

1961
01:45:09,080 --> 01:45:10,639
Speaker 12: No, you know, he's not there.

1962
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and that and and honestly, I don't

1963
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,559
Speaker 3: know how much he loves live, but Live was perfect

1964
01:45:16,560 --> 01:45:19,320
Speaker 3: for him because he just seemed disinterested at tour events.

1965
01:45:19,680 --> 01:45:21,439
Speaker 12: Well it was a hedge. It was a hedge. Right,

1966
01:45:21,479 --> 01:45:23,439
Speaker 12: he's injured he doesn't know what to do. He can

1967
01:45:23,479 --> 01:45:25,320
Speaker 12: cash in on his brand and the things that he's done.

1968
01:45:25,400 --> 01:45:28,600
Speaker 12: So it made really sense because he clearly watching the

1969
01:45:28,680 --> 01:45:30,400
Speaker 12: full swing. He didn't know where he was going to

1970
01:45:30,479 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 12: be in a few years, but he knew what was

1971
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:34,479
Speaker 12: in front of him and he took advantage of that.

1972
01:45:35,040 --> 01:45:37,400
Speaker 12: And so we don't really know, as he said, what's

1973
01:45:37,400 --> 01:45:39,280
Speaker 12: going to happen in the future for the next ten years.

1974
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,439
Speaker 12: But Brooks is worried about his legacy. He wants to win,

1975
01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 12: and so you know, he probably has you know, Viyer's remorse,

1976
01:45:47,600 --> 01:45:51,120
Speaker 12: maybe since he feels so good now, but his career

1977
01:45:51,200 --> 01:45:53,360
Speaker 12: is far from finished and his story is far from over.

1978
01:45:53,439 --> 01:45:55,880
Speaker 12: So who knows what it's going to look like at

1979
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:56,240
Speaker 12: the end.

1980
01:45:56,520 --> 01:45:58,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's that's the question that flows through

1981
01:45:58,920 --> 01:46:01,280
Speaker 2: it because we did hear the ohos early in the

1982
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 2: rounds for he and for Braambo. Yeah, as it got

1983
01:46:07,400 --> 01:46:10,200
Speaker 2: going in a little bit of a you know, for

1984
01:46:10,320 --> 01:46:12,839
Speaker 2: lack of a better term, go to the WWE parlance,

1985
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:16,760
Speaker 2: as you know, you turn baby face a little bit

1986
01:46:16,800 --> 01:46:20,800
Speaker 2: when you're performing well and given the crowd a show.

1987
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:24,720
Speaker 2: But the live golf side of it, how does that

1988
01:46:25,280 --> 01:46:31,439
Speaker 2: sit are we becoming more comfortable with it around the game,

1989
01:46:31,560 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 2: or is there still that anxiety and angst that seemed

1990
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:38,840
Speaker 2: to be there as we started the season. No.

1991
01:46:39,040 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 12: I think it's sort of run its course in terms

1992
01:46:42,240 --> 01:46:44,080
Speaker 12: of kind of dealing with the fact that these guys

1993
01:46:44,120 --> 01:46:49,320
Speaker 12: aren't going to be around okay, And I think it

1994
01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:52,040
Speaker 12: was their personal decisions to go do that right, and

1995
01:46:52,400 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 12: each one had a different reason. There's some guys I

1996
01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 12: saw Brendan Steel and Charles how You guys are in

1997
01:46:57,800 --> 01:47:00,200
Speaker 12: their forties. These guys have been grinding on tour work

1998
01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:03,240
Speaker 12: for fifteen plus years, playing twenty five events to keep

1999
01:47:03,280 --> 01:47:06,000
Speaker 12: their card, to keep staying on the PGA tour and

2000
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:08,559
Speaker 12: earn a living. This is an incredible opportunity for them

2001
01:47:08,640 --> 01:47:11,040
Speaker 12: to kind of end their careers on a high note.

2002
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,120
Speaker 12: Forer say and roll off to the sunset. It makes

2003
01:47:13,160 --> 01:47:16,200
Speaker 12: total sense for what they did. You know, we've heard

2004
01:47:16,240 --> 01:47:19,240
Speaker 12: reports of Brooks being sort of like Buyer's remorse, Maybe

2005
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:20,920
Speaker 12: I should have just stayed on tour. I feel great

2006
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:22,920
Speaker 12: now and I want to win. Tom It's like he

2007
01:47:23,040 --> 01:47:26,599
Speaker 12: is a legacy sort of player. Dustin Johnson's like, I'm

2008
01:47:26,640 --> 01:47:28,720
Speaker 12: not passing this up. I'm good with my career, and

2009
01:47:28,760 --> 01:47:31,320
Speaker 12: however you want to determine that still obviously made a

2010
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:33,720
Speaker 12: short and so, and we don't know that it's like

2011
01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 12: at the end of it, it lives going to be

2012
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,800
Speaker 12: around in three years, I don't know sure, but I

2013
01:47:38,920 --> 01:47:41,400
Speaker 12: know that if it does end, those guys will be

2014
01:47:41,439 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 12: back on the PGA Tour and some in some way,

2015
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:46,280
Speaker 12: you know, they might get a fine or whatever. The

2016
01:47:46,439 --> 01:47:48,960
Speaker 12: idea that the tour is not going to like allow

2017
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 12: them back, they sort of doesn't have the right to

2018
01:47:50,600 --> 01:47:52,640
Speaker 12: tell them, well, you're not allowed to play because of

2019
01:47:52,680 --> 01:47:55,360
Speaker 12: a decision you made a few years ago. Like was

2020
01:47:55,439 --> 01:47:57,240
Speaker 12: Lebron not allowed to go back to Cleveland because he

2021
01:47:57,280 --> 01:47:59,599
Speaker 12: wanted to? I mean, if you wanted to go play

2022
01:47:59,600 --> 01:48:01,439
Speaker 12: in the euro League or whatever league, he's going to

2023
01:48:01,439 --> 01:48:04,479
Speaker 12: be allowed back. I mean, it's you know, it's sort

2024
01:48:04,479 --> 01:48:06,600
Speaker 12: of silly to me to think that they're going to

2025
01:48:06,640 --> 01:48:09,040
Speaker 12: be kicked out of the tour forever for making a

2026
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:10,360
Speaker 12: decision in their best interest.

2027
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:12,320
Speaker 3: But what do you do to the guys that are

2028
01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:15,640
Speaker 3: that were loyal, the guys that didn't take the paycheck

2029
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 3: and stayed with the tour, Like, if I'm them, I'm

2030
01:48:18,479 --> 01:48:20,520
Speaker 3: ticked if that ends up being the case.

2031
01:48:21,439 --> 01:48:23,400
Speaker 12: Well that's why they got Why do you think the

2032
01:48:23,680 --> 01:48:26,000
Speaker 12: you know, the purses have been raised and everything's been

2033
01:48:26,280 --> 01:48:29,200
Speaker 12: changed completely overnight. It's it's because those players said, listen,

2034
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:31,000
Speaker 12: we're going to be loyal to you, but changes need

2035
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,720
Speaker 12: to be made, right like, we've sort of seen the

2036
01:48:33,760 --> 01:48:36,960
Speaker 12: economics of what you guys are doing, and let's do

2037
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,280
Speaker 12: better than that. And they didn't. And they you know,

2038
01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:41,840
Speaker 12: for as much as Jay said, we're not going to

2039
01:48:41,880 --> 01:48:45,479
Speaker 12: fight the Saudi money with our money, they did. And

2040
01:48:45,520 --> 01:48:47,920
Speaker 12: that's and that's because the players had leverage. And so

2041
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 12: I think there will be a fine, there's going to

2042
01:48:49,880 --> 01:48:52,280
Speaker 12: be some sort of punishment, but you can't roll over

2043
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,640
Speaker 12: this punishment for four years. You know, they're not going

2044
01:48:54,680 --> 01:48:56,160
Speaker 12: to be able to just walk back on tour. They're

2045
01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,320
Speaker 12: gonna have to earn their way back on whether it's

2046
01:48:58,360 --> 01:49:00,599
Speaker 12: through the money list or I mean, whether it's through

2047
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:04,000
Speaker 12: you know, the world ranking or however that goes. I'm

2048
01:49:04,000 --> 01:49:06,400
Speaker 12: not saying they just get a card whenever they want.

2049
01:49:06,479 --> 01:49:08,040
Speaker 12: I'm saying they're gonna have to earn their way back

2050
01:49:08,200 --> 01:49:09,960
Speaker 12: and there'll probably be a heavy, you know, some sort

2051
01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 12: of fine for it. But if they do earn their

2052
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 12: way back, whether it's through playing great and majors or whatnot.

2053
01:49:15,360 --> 01:49:18,280
Speaker 12: I don't see any reason why they wouldn't be allowed

2054
01:49:18,280 --> 01:49:19,880
Speaker 12: back on tour. I mean the risk of going to

2055
01:49:19,920 --> 01:49:23,479
Speaker 12: live was huge. They have they some won't have world

2056
01:49:23,520 --> 01:49:26,759
Speaker 12: ranking points. Yeah, I mean they're like, I mean there's

2057
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 12: still you know, Brooks has made it into this event

2058
01:49:29,479 --> 01:49:32,080
Speaker 12: from his past success, not because of something he did

2059
01:49:32,120 --> 01:49:32,599
Speaker 12: last year.

2060
01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:36,120
Speaker 3: Hunter Binghan joining us here on Fox Sports Sunday, a

2061
01:49:36,120 --> 01:49:39,120
Speaker 3: couple of just quick ones to wrap up one golf

2062
01:49:39,160 --> 01:49:42,720
Speaker 3: in one NFL uniform from Mike and I Yeah.

2063
01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:43,840
Speaker 12: Why I'm here, That's why I'm here.

2064
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, look, you guys have your battles on Twitter.

2065
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 3: We kind of come from the same golf you know,

2066
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:57,840
Speaker 3: so so of wanting like the old days. I was gonna,

2067
01:49:58,120 --> 01:50:00,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I was gonna ask your Rory McElroy's five

2068
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:03,519
Speaker 3: back with five players in between him and Brooks. Is

2069
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:05,360
Speaker 3: that too much to ask for Rory to put it

2070
01:50:05,360 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 3: together today and comfort behind.

2071
01:50:08,200 --> 01:50:08,280
Speaker 11: No.

2072
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,519
Speaker 12: I think we've seen he's had like the spurt yesterday,

2073
01:50:12,160 --> 01:50:15,160
Speaker 12: those first six or seven, I'd probably five to old man.

2074
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:18,000
Speaker 12: He looked great. I mean he was bombing his driver,

2075
01:50:18,120 --> 01:50:20,439
Speaker 12: strapping his irons man. He looked really good. He had

2076
01:50:20,439 --> 01:50:23,559
Speaker 12: that step about him right, that confidence was growing and growing.

2077
01:50:23,760 --> 01:50:25,760
Speaker 12: And then a couple of soft abilities on six and seven,

2078
01:50:25,800 --> 01:50:27,880
Speaker 12: I think six and eight and is kind of like, well,

2079
01:50:27,960 --> 01:50:29,599
Speaker 12: mentum was killed, and then he brought it back again,

2080
01:50:29,680 --> 01:50:31,840
Speaker 12: and then a bad drive of fourteen felt like it

2081
01:50:31,920 --> 01:50:35,200
Speaker 12: slowed the momentum down for him. If he can put

2082
01:50:35,200 --> 01:50:38,200
Speaker 12: it all together, he can absolutely shoot I think five

2083
01:50:38,200 --> 01:50:39,880
Speaker 12: to six seven on on the sof course, it's going

2084
01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,320
Speaker 12: to be a little bit slower today, which is going

2085
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,599
Speaker 12: to help the driver. Early in the week guys were

2086
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:45,680
Speaker 12: hitting it and it was rolling thirty forty yards, so

2087
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:47,679
Speaker 12: they had a hard time keeping the ball on fairway.

2088
01:50:47,840 --> 01:50:49,960
Speaker 12: Now I think it's just going to be full same

2089
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:53,000
Speaker 12: because if you do hit it great off the tee

2090
01:50:53,200 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 12: at such a huge advantage to attack a lot of

2091
01:50:55,880 --> 01:50:57,759
Speaker 12: these pins because they're going to be much softer today.

2092
01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,120
Speaker 12: So I do think a great round is possible and

2093
01:51:00,200 --> 01:51:02,479
Speaker 12: Rory is definitely the guy that can do that. Obviously,

2094
01:51:02,640 --> 01:51:05,280
Speaker 12: Shepherd can get his irons going a little bit. He

2095
01:51:05,439 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 12: was just not on his best yesterday, pulling a lot

2096
01:51:09,720 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 12: of his irons and just couldn't get just couldn't get

2097
01:51:12,680 --> 01:51:15,280
Speaker 12: any momentum going. But if he gets off to a

2098
01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:18,519
Speaker 12: good start, he's another guy who can go extremely low.

2099
01:51:18,600 --> 01:51:21,160
Speaker 12: So I think there's a lot is this could the

2100
01:51:21,160 --> 01:51:23,120
Speaker 12: way the course is set up, the condition of the rain,

2101
01:51:23,960 --> 01:51:25,280
Speaker 12: it should be a great.

2102
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,960
Speaker 3: Great day. All right, we throwback. Are you most looking

2103
01:51:27,960 --> 01:51:32,639
Speaker 3: forward to in the NFL uniform wise upcoming season? Creamy

2104
01:51:33,320 --> 01:51:35,480
Speaker 3: creams of gold, Eagles, Seahawks?

2105
01:51:36,000 --> 01:51:36,080
Speaker 4: What?

2106
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:38,760
Speaker 3: Well?

2107
01:51:38,840 --> 01:51:43,400
Speaker 12: Hey, I love the Red Falcons. The Red Falcons uniforms

2108
01:51:43,400 --> 01:51:45,639
Speaker 12: are just fantastic, and the helmets and everything. I think

2109
01:51:45,640 --> 01:51:49,120
Speaker 12: that's just unbelievable. The Houston Olers, to me, is just

2110
01:51:49,320 --> 01:51:52,200
Speaker 12: it's one of the great nicknames. And the powder Blues

2111
01:51:52,200 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 12: in the red it's just so iconic to me. That's

2112
01:51:54,640 --> 01:52:01,120
Speaker 12: probably my number probably my number one one. A Seattle

2113
01:52:02,040 --> 01:52:04,320
Speaker 12: was pretty you know, I love I think the old

2114
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:06,599
Speaker 12: Seattle ones. They should bring those back permanently. I don't

2115
01:52:06,840 --> 01:52:09,320
Speaker 12: like them bright green and it's just not my thing.

2116
01:52:09,760 --> 01:52:12,080
Speaker 12: Maybe Jersey and I know, I know you you know, yeah,

2117
01:52:12,240 --> 01:52:14,920
Speaker 12: you're that's your hometown team. But I love I wish

2118
01:52:14,920 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 12: they would just bring those back and just maybe up

2119
01:52:17,200 --> 01:52:21,479
Speaker 12: the update them slightly. I love them.

2120
01:52:21,600 --> 01:52:24,240
Speaker 3: Mike and Iron love with Bucco, Bruce too, the Buccaneers.

2121
01:52:24,520 --> 01:52:27,360
Speaker 12: So absolutely, yeah, absolutely no, I get it.

2122
01:52:27,439 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 1: I get it.

2123
01:52:28,120 --> 01:52:31,200
Speaker 12: The orange to Cools, that's that's It's just funny how

2124
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,439
Speaker 12: things roll back around and they seem cooler than ever

2125
01:52:33,560 --> 01:52:35,840
Speaker 12: and then at the time they were people are just

2126
01:52:36,360 --> 01:52:37,280
Speaker 12: they hated them.

2127
01:52:37,560 --> 01:52:40,320
Speaker 3: I know, I know because they were with losing. But

2128
01:52:40,560 --> 01:52:44,040
Speaker 3: oh well, Hunter, we appreciate the time. We'll listen to

2129
01:52:44,080 --> 01:52:46,320
Speaker 3: you on serious X. I'll talk to you letter Matt, Thanks,

2130
01:52:46,760 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 3: thank you, Thank Mayhan from the PGA Championship. I know

2131
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:52,320
Speaker 3: we went a little long, but I had to get

2132
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:53,160
Speaker 3: the uniform stuff.

2133
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,519
Speaker 2: Of course you did. Now, hey, let's get an update

2134
01:52:55,520 --> 01:52:57,640
Speaker 2: of what's going on in our sporting niwur styt for

2135
01:52:57,760 --> 01:52:58,760
Speaker 2: Isaac Lowngron.

2136
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,559
Speaker 6: I'll tell you, Billy, I choose Johnson's ears just perked

2137
01:53:02,640 --> 01:53:05,240
Speaker 6: up because he played for both the Falcons when they

2138
01:53:05,439 --> 01:53:08,040
Speaker 6: wore the red jerseys and the Oilers when they were

2139
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,439
Speaker 6: in the Love You Blue, Powder Blue. So good call

2140
01:53:10,479 --> 01:53:12,800
Speaker 6: there by, Hunter Mayheon Fellas. In Game three of the

2141
01:53:12,840 --> 01:53:16,439
Speaker 6: Western Conference Finals on Saturday night, Denver defeated the Lakers

2142
01:53:16,439 --> 01:53:19,080
Speaker 6: in Los Angeles one nineteen to one oh eight for

2143
01:53:19,360 --> 01:53:22,360
Speaker 6: three games to non lead behind thirty seven points by

2144
01:53:22,479 --> 01:53:23,599
Speaker 6: Jamal Murray Well.

2145
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:25,519
Speaker 2: In Game two of the NHL's.

2146
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:29,960
Speaker 6: Eastern Conference Finals, the Florida Panthers and Carolina Hurricanes went

2147
01:53:30,000 --> 01:53:35,640
Speaker 6: to what guess yes overtime again. In Game one, it

2148
01:53:35,720 --> 01:53:40,720
Speaker 6: took four overtimes until Florida's Matthew Kachuk gave the Panthers

2149
01:53:40,720 --> 01:53:43,559
Speaker 6: to win. And this time it would only take a

2150
01:53:43,640 --> 01:53:48,479
Speaker 6: minute and fifty one seconds. Here was Doug Plagans on WQAM.

2151
01:53:47,600 --> 01:53:50,960
Speaker 4: At Bennett Bett's got the pluck, Bennett Diittle right circle out.

2152
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 2: In front, Ryan Our back, Garthy store Hen.

2153
01:53:53,400 --> 01:53:57,640
Speaker 8: It's Matthew good Chuck the overtime winner and the Panthers

2154
01:53:58,040 --> 01:54:01,519
Speaker 8: take Game two. They lay two games to none.

2155
01:54:01,600 --> 01:54:03,799
Speaker 4: It only took a minute and fifty one.

2156
01:54:03,720 --> 01:54:08,840
Speaker 9: Seconds a power play goal in overtime the Panthers win

2157
01:54:08,920 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 9: it to one.

2158
01:54:10,720 --> 01:54:14,559
Speaker 6: Meanwhile, the final round of the PGA Championship is underway.

2159
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:17,400
Speaker 6: Brooks Kepta the lead six under par overall. He is

2160
01:54:17,439 --> 01:54:21,320
Speaker 6: one shot ahead of Victor Hoveland and Cory Conners. They

2161
01:54:21,320 --> 01:54:24,240
Speaker 6: will all tee off their final rounds at around two

2162
01:54:24,320 --> 01:54:27,080
Speaker 6: thirty Eastern time. And we have an early Major League

2163
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:31,800
Speaker 6: Baseball game just underway. The Cincinnati Reds and New York

2164
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,280
Speaker 6: Yankees are scoreless headed to the bottle of the first

2165
01:54:34,280 --> 01:54:37,000
Speaker 6: inning in Cincinnati. Fellas back to you.

2166
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 2: Thanks so much. Ilo. Find him on Twitter at Isaac Longer.

2167
01:54:40,200 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 2: I think a Hunter Mayheon also gave us the phrase

2168
01:54:42,560 --> 01:54:45,200
Speaker 2: that Islo's got to say. I think we're moving from

2169
01:54:45,200 --> 01:54:46,640
Speaker 2: Seinfeld into something he.

2170
01:54:47,120 --> 01:54:48,040
Speaker 3: Oh, all right.

2171
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:50,640
Speaker 2: In the interview Dan Byer Mike Harmer with you Fox

2172
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:53,800
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday here Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next, We'll

2173
01:54:53,840 --> 01:54:56,800
Speaker 2: continue with the PGA because I have a a just

2174
01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:00,880
Speaker 2: a scheduling question for Dan. It's not Memorial Day. Why

2175
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:03,320
Speaker 2: are we playing a championship? We'll talk about it next

2176
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:04,120
Speaker 2: here on Fox.

2177
01:55:04,400 --> 01:55:07,280
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in

2178
01:55:07,320 --> 01:55:10,680
Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio

2179
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:14,920
Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to

2180
01:55:15,040 --> 01:55:16,760
Speaker 1: listen live change.

2181
01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:20,720
Speaker 3: Here's this is what happened. So the PGA Championship used

2182
01:55:20,720 --> 01:55:22,360
Speaker 3: to be the final major of the year, and it

2183
01:55:22,400 --> 01:55:25,200
Speaker 3: happened second week in August. You would usually have about

2184
01:55:25,200 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 3: a three week break from when the Open Championship slash

2185
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:30,560
Speaker 3: British Open would be played. You'd come back to the

2186
01:55:30,560 --> 01:55:33,480
Speaker 3: States play a couple of weeks and then you'd play

2187
01:55:33,520 --> 01:55:37,400
Speaker 3: in the PGA Championship. Well, the PGA Championship kind of

2188
01:55:37,440 --> 01:55:40,080
Speaker 3: would would get lost in the shuffle because it felt

2189
01:55:40,120 --> 01:55:43,400
Speaker 3: like it was the major that wasn't the you know,

2190
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,440
Speaker 3: the one that was left out. You also have NFL

2191
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:52,320
Speaker 3: training camps starting, and the real impetus of the change

2192
01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:56,120
Speaker 3: of the PGA Championship wasn't popular to the date change

2193
01:55:56,440 --> 01:56:00,240
Speaker 3: of the PGA Championship wasn't popularity. It was actually becase

2194
01:56:00,240 --> 01:56:04,000
Speaker 3: of golf's inclusion into the Olympics. So when the Olympics

2195
01:56:04,000 --> 01:56:08,920
Speaker 3: take place, they're normally what summer, mid late July or August,

2196
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,000
Speaker 3: depending on where they are. But the PGA of America

2197
01:56:12,040 --> 01:56:15,880
Speaker 3: would have had to have moved the PGA Championship likely

2198
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:19,360
Speaker 3: every four years at some point because of the conflict

2199
01:56:19,400 --> 01:56:22,480
Speaker 3: with golf now being a part of the Olympic Games.

2200
01:56:23,120 --> 01:56:25,520
Speaker 3: So you had this calendar that really didn't fit right

2201
01:56:25,560 --> 01:56:27,600
Speaker 3: because you had this huge gap between the Masters and

2202
01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:30,160
Speaker 3: the US Open. You didn't have a lot of momentum

2203
01:56:30,240 --> 01:56:32,640
Speaker 3: leading into it because it was such a long break.

2204
01:56:32,800 --> 01:56:35,120
Speaker 3: You put the Players Championship in May at one point.

2205
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:37,520
Speaker 3: The Mother's Day weekend is when it used to be played,

2206
01:56:37,880 --> 01:56:42,640
Speaker 3: but you had this opportunity to shift the calendar. It

2207
01:56:42,680 --> 01:56:46,240
Speaker 3: also might allow the FedEx Cup Playoffs on the PGA

2208
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:49,360
Speaker 3: tour to not go up against the NFL. That's now

2209
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:53,040
Speaker 3: done before the NFL season starts. So it just worked

2210
01:56:53,080 --> 01:56:55,800
Speaker 3: better as a golf calendar as a whole. And this

2211
01:56:55,920 --> 01:56:58,880
Speaker 3: changed in twenty nineteen. The problem is COVID hit in

2212
01:56:58,920 --> 01:57:02,000
Speaker 3: twenty twenty, so the PGA was played in August in

2213
01:57:02,120 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 3: twenty twenty one. You're still kind of not used to

2214
01:57:04,880 --> 01:57:08,760
Speaker 3: the change. That's when Phil won at Kiowa. I think

2215
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,680
Speaker 3: now we're back to normalcy. So now it's hitting people

2216
01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:13,840
Speaker 3: of being like, oh wow, this is different. Why is

2217
01:57:13,880 --> 01:57:15,680
Speaker 3: it now? It's here to stay at this point, But

2218
01:57:15,720 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 3: it's also likely why it's not going to go to Rochester,

2219
01:57:18,040 --> 01:57:22,160
Speaker 3: New York again, just because the weather's different. Weather very ay,

2220
01:57:22,240 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 3: and this was announced before it before it actually they

2221
01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 3: made the switch, so o'kill was awarded that.

2222
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:30,560
Speaker 2: He's Dan Bayer on Mike Harbon. It's Fox Sports Sunday.

2223
01:57:30,600 --> 01:57:34,160
Speaker 2: Here Fox Sports Radio. We've been watching Premier League action

2224
01:57:34,320 --> 01:57:38,040
Speaker 2: early this morning, PGA Championship, and we've got a game

2225
01:57:38,440 --> 01:57:42,920
Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball already underway on Peacock that's right,

2226
01:57:43,000 --> 01:57:46,640
Speaker 2: because you've got to go deep diving to find your morning.

2227
01:57:46,640 --> 01:57:49,120
Speaker 2: You got the Reds and the Yankees, and Aaron Boone

2228
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:53,160
Speaker 2: has already been ejected. Really all right, he was out

2229
01:57:53,200 --> 01:57:55,560
Speaker 2: and reading lips. Let me tell you, dan Byer, he

2230
01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:56,440
Speaker 2: got his money's worth.

2231
01:57:56,640 --> 01:58:01,200
Speaker 3: Nothing about savages nothing. Probably similar words though being used.

2232
01:58:01,240 --> 01:58:02,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're gonna hit the rewind bud you

2233
01:58:02,880 --> 01:58:04,640
Speaker 2: want and bring up the sound Do you want.

2234
01:58:04,520 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 3: To the day off in Cincinnati?

2235
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:13,040
Speaker 2: Evidently the Hell's are to doing. Sorry Reds fans, he's doing.

2236
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 2: I'm Mike coming up next, we turn our attention back

2237
01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:19,600
Speaker 2: to the NBA Playoffs because we're just a couple of

2238
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:23,879
Speaker 2: games away from terror. If you care about TV ratings,

2239
01:58:24,720 --> 01:58:28,280
Speaker 2: Greetings and welcome in final hour of the program. Here,

2240
01:58:28,320 --> 01:58:32,360
Speaker 2: I'm busy, Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Harmon, Dan Byer with you,

2241
01:58:32,440 --> 01:58:36,200
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. Tireract

2242
01:58:36,200 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 2: dot Com will help you get there on unmatched selection,

2243
01:58:39,080 --> 01:58:42,160
Speaker 2: fast free shipping, free road hazard protection and over ten

2244
01:58:42,200 --> 01:58:46,400
Speaker 2: thousand recommended installers. Tire act dot com The way tire

2245
01:58:46,520 --> 01:58:51,560
Speaker 2: buying should be. Dan Byer already thinking about what kind

2246
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,800
Speaker 2: of snack like product he will have next to his

2247
01:58:54,920 --> 01:58:58,400
Speaker 2: recliner as he sits to watch the final round of

2248
01:58:58,480 --> 01:59:03,080
Speaker 2: the PGA Championship Brooks Koepka looking to bring home a title.

2249
01:59:03,480 --> 01:59:06,040
Speaker 3: It is a great, great thing to be able to

2250
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:09,280
Speaker 3: watch golf on the West Coast. We talk so much

2251
01:59:09,320 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 3: about golf on the or football on the West Coast.

2252
01:59:13,240 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 3: The Sunday morning starts at ten o'clock local time, college

2253
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:20,360
Speaker 3: football starting basically at nine o'clock. A lot of great

2254
01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:23,240
Speaker 3: advantages to it. Now when the US Open is out

2255
01:59:23,240 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 3: here next month, which you and I will be broadcasting, yeah, baby,

2256
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,760
Speaker 3: from morning of the final round Father's Day, you and

2257
01:59:29,800 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 3: I will be at LA Country Club the final you know,

2258
01:59:34,840 --> 01:59:38,840
Speaker 3: groups will be in pairings, will be in primetime on

2259
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:41,640
Speaker 3: the East Coast. It's great primetime viewing. It works out

2260
01:59:41,640 --> 01:59:45,920
Speaker 3: really well for the USGA. This is great for us

2261
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:50,920
Speaker 3: because once this wraps up at three o'clock, you know,

2262
01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:55,080
Speaker 3: three thirty local time, I could go out and hit balls.

2263
01:59:55,160 --> 01:59:56,960
Speaker 3: I could go out and play nine holes. I could

2264
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,600
Speaker 3: probably get in eighteen if I wanted to, all while

2265
02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:03,800
Speaker 3: having sat on my butt all day watching golf. So

2266
02:00:03,880 --> 02:00:06,480
Speaker 3: that is is a great, great positive to that. I

2267
02:00:06,480 --> 02:00:08,880
Speaker 3: don't know if that's gonna happen or not, but there

2268
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:11,800
Speaker 3: will be a lot of sitting. I am thinking right now,

2269
02:00:12,280 --> 02:00:15,480
Speaker 3: pizza will be the uh the choice today.

2270
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,680
Speaker 2: There you go. Just remember hope is the best of things.

2271
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:21,400
Speaker 2: It's also a dangerous thing. Two lessons you learn from Shawshank. Alright,

2272
02:00:21,680 --> 02:00:26,080
Speaker 2: no question about it. We've got the Vegas Golden Knights

2273
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:29,680
Speaker 2: later hosting the Dallas Stars. That'll start noon Pacific. You

2274
02:00:29,680 --> 02:00:32,480
Speaker 2: can have that on another screen. I've got Peacock up

2275
02:00:32,480 --> 02:00:34,800
Speaker 2: and running, Aaron Boons already been thrown out of the

2276
02:00:34,880 --> 02:00:38,480
Speaker 2: Reds and Yankees game. And then later on tonight five

2277
02:00:38,760 --> 02:00:43,120
Speaker 2: thirty o'clock, five thirty o'clock, five thirty Pacific. Boston and

2278
02:00:43,240 --> 02:00:47,480
Speaker 2: Miami get the pregame at five o'clock. But we look

2279
02:00:47,560 --> 02:00:51,440
Speaker 2: for Game three. Miami up two to oh. We now

2280
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,839
Speaker 2: have a three to zero commanding lead for the Nuggets

2281
02:00:55,640 --> 02:01:03,120
Speaker 2: and guaranteed on one or more of your televised sports

2282
02:01:03,120 --> 02:01:06,080
Speaker 2: talk radio shows. That's really all it is turning at,

2283
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:11,160
Speaker 2: Cameron Hi, is that it will be all about how

2284
02:01:11,200 --> 02:01:14,560
Speaker 2: bad ratings will be, how many people will be turned

2285
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:16,960
Speaker 2: off by the fact that you have the Heat and

2286
02:01:16,960 --> 02:01:19,680
Speaker 2: the Nuggets moving forward. Now there'll be a little bit

2287
02:01:19,680 --> 02:01:23,800
Speaker 2: of a cell job on Nikola Jokic. Maybe we can

2288
02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:27,520
Speaker 2: get some kind of violin playing in the background. Vignette

2289
02:01:27,560 --> 02:01:30,120
Speaker 2: talking about the life and times of Jamal Murray to

2290
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:34,600
Speaker 2: get folks excited. And then obviously Jimmy Butler thought to

2291
02:01:34,640 --> 02:01:38,960
Speaker 2: see there it is. You know, Jamal Murray sustained a

2292
02:01:39,240 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 2: devastating injury that kept him out of commission, and now

2293
02:01:42,760 --> 02:01:46,280
Speaker 2: he's come back. Oh and he's come back on fire,

2294
02:01:46,880 --> 02:01:50,680
Speaker 2: taking down and vanquishing the Lakers as part of a

2295
02:01:50,760 --> 02:01:54,040
Speaker 2: huge first half with thirty points. He finished with thirty

2296
02:01:54,080 --> 02:01:54,880
Speaker 2: seven on the night.

2297
02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:59,320
Speaker 3: It's quite a show. It was an absolute show by

2298
02:01:59,400 --> 02:02:02,480
Speaker 3: Jamal Murray. But I would say I would say Mike

2299
02:02:03,240 --> 02:02:06,440
Speaker 3: that no matter what happens in the East, here's.

2300
02:02:06,240 --> 02:02:09,200
Speaker 2: Ten minutes on Jimmy Butler's coffee company. Come on, Dan,

2301
02:02:09,280 --> 02:02:10,560
Speaker 2: I'm setting a picture for you.

2302
02:02:11,080 --> 02:02:13,720
Speaker 3: I was gonna say that, no matter what happens in

2303
02:02:13,760 --> 02:02:17,200
Speaker 3: the East, that with the Lakers not being there in

2304
02:02:17,240 --> 02:02:20,200
Speaker 3: the West, and it's actually a great value. Not to

2305
02:02:20,240 --> 02:02:22,920
Speaker 3: bring it back to the Golden State Warriors again, but

2306
02:02:23,720 --> 02:02:25,640
Speaker 3: if you look at the NBA, you just kind of

2307
02:02:25,800 --> 02:02:29,440
Speaker 3: stood from the outside looking in. The Lakers are really

2308
02:02:29,480 --> 02:02:32,240
Speaker 3: the only home run in the West until Golden State

2309
02:02:32,280 --> 02:02:34,040
Speaker 3: came along, like that would be another team that you

2310
02:02:34,040 --> 02:02:35,080
Speaker 3: would want in the West.

2311
02:02:35,080 --> 02:02:40,240
Speaker 2: But talk about brand recognition, brand value and all the

2312
02:02:40,280 --> 02:02:43,360
Speaker 2: things that gets you excited down on Madison Avenue.

2313
02:02:43,400 --> 02:02:46,240
Speaker 3: Absolutely yes, And in the East there are just you know,

2314
02:02:46,560 --> 02:02:51,040
Speaker 3: more markets in that aspect, so that that whole conversation

2315
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:56,000
Speaker 3: which drives me bonkers, is basically now out the window

2316
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:59,920
Speaker 3: of the West. If two teams, one of the two teams,

2317
02:03:00,600 --> 02:03:02,800
Speaker 3: Golden State or the Lakers don't make the finals. So

2318
02:03:03,240 --> 02:03:05,960
Speaker 3: no matter what happens, which is so silly and so stupid,

2319
02:03:06,000 --> 02:03:09,840
Speaker 3: you're gonna have this now stupid ratings conversation. And I

2320
02:03:09,840 --> 02:03:12,320
Speaker 3: don't know if it's gonna change if Boston. I don't

2321
02:03:12,360 --> 02:03:16,040
Speaker 3: think it would change with even if Boston would rally

2322
02:03:16,040 --> 02:03:18,720
Speaker 3: and somehow win this Eastern Conference final series.

2323
02:03:18,840 --> 02:03:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think it mattered only if you got

2324
02:03:21,160 --> 02:03:24,440
Speaker 2: the the rematch, that you'd have maybe some outlier folks,

2325
02:03:24,480 --> 02:03:28,360
Speaker 2: if suddenly you had a rekindling of the old Lakers

2326
02:03:28,400 --> 02:03:31,160
Speaker 2: Celtics thing, that maybe you've got some fringe folks that

2327
02:03:31,840 --> 02:03:35,000
Speaker 2: might get interested, if nothing else to see how the

2328
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:38,360
Speaker 2: players of their youth have aged and how many little

2329
02:03:38,400 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 2: snippets you could put together of old you know, Larry

2330
02:03:41,920 --> 02:03:45,480
Speaker 2: Bird footage or whatever the case may be. Here's more

2331
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,320
Speaker 2: Magic Johnson. Maybe Magic Johnson wouldn't be tweeting as much.

2332
02:03:48,440 --> 02:03:51,560
Speaker 2: I don't know, because he's on fire again. But you know,

2333
02:03:51,640 --> 02:03:54,360
Speaker 2: we always joke about it with Steve de Sager when

2334
02:03:54,360 --> 02:03:57,320
Speaker 2: he's in with us on a Thursday or Friday night,

2335
02:03:57,440 --> 02:04:00,240
Speaker 2: particularly Friday night, because well it's the night after Young

2336
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:04,400
Speaker 2: Sheldon will have err And so we compare ratings of

2337
02:04:04,520 --> 02:04:09,000
Speaker 2: primetime sports events NFL, NBA, et cetera to the ratings

2338
02:04:09,440 --> 02:04:12,800
Speaker 2: dominance of Young Sheldon. And you've actually had a number

2339
02:04:12,800 --> 02:04:16,840
Speaker 2: of instances, going back to that Lakers Warrior series, where

2340
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:21,760
Speaker 2: you actually had data points that exceeded the dominance of

2341
02:04:21,840 --> 02:04:26,320
Speaker 2: Young Sheldon where you were into the sevens. But we've

2342
02:04:26,400 --> 02:04:31,520
Speaker 2: long talked about the NBA, and folks that hate ratings

2343
02:04:31,560 --> 02:04:34,520
Speaker 2: talk will immediately tell you how much they're on social

2344
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:39,280
Speaker 2: media whatever until it's something to go and get after

2345
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:42,640
Speaker 2: because it's the finals or there's a positive data point,

2346
02:04:42,680 --> 02:04:45,720
Speaker 2: see people are watching. It's like, well, no, no, no, you can't.

2347
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:47,920
Speaker 2: You can't tell me it's all digital whatever. And then

2348
02:04:47,960 --> 02:04:51,040
Speaker 2: have the outlier series and tell me how great you know,

2349
02:04:51,320 --> 02:04:54,600
Speaker 2: like the televice but how important that is? Again, right,

2350
02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:56,680
Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, it doesn't matter because we're all over

2351
02:04:56,720 --> 02:04:58,760
Speaker 2: this and we've got the global and you've got the

2352
02:04:59,280 --> 02:05:02,400
Speaker 2: you know, streaming in overseas whatever, so the TV side

2353
02:05:02,440 --> 02:05:04,720
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. And then when it pops like see I

2354
02:05:04,800 --> 02:05:09,400
Speaker 2: told you, like, okay, you dismissed it as a as

2355
02:05:09,440 --> 02:05:12,760
Speaker 2: a non entity, as it didn't matter one way or another.

2356
02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:16,960
Speaker 2: But when it's good news, let's trumpet that wherever we can.

2357
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 2: For a as of now, a Denver Miami series a

2358
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:25,680
Speaker 2: lot of cool storylines. If you're following the NBA, if

2359
02:05:25,680 --> 02:05:29,320
Speaker 2: you're a casual fan, you probably weren't gonna watch unless

2360
02:05:29,320 --> 02:05:30,440
Speaker 2: it was someone to hate watch.

2361
02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:33,640
Speaker 3: Anyway, I just I look at I just find the

2362
02:05:33,720 --> 02:05:37,040
Speaker 3: ratings talk so silly, Mike, because of the point that

2363
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:40,200
Speaker 3: I made with the Lakers and Warriors that if they're

2364
02:05:40,280 --> 02:05:43,600
Speaker 3: not in the finals, the numbers aren't gonna be as good.

2365
02:05:44,160 --> 02:05:48,640
Speaker 3: That's just the fact of the matter, and it's not groundbreaking,

2366
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,760
Speaker 3: and it seems too And again, maybe this is a

2367
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:55,000
Speaker 3: sports media thing. Maybe I'm not looking outside myself, but

2368
02:05:55,040 --> 02:05:58,240
Speaker 3: I don't have I don't have conversations with my buddies

2369
02:05:58,800 --> 02:06:02,920
Speaker 3: being like, man, imagine the TV ratings for that one.

2370
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:05,160
Speaker 3: It's just more of like are you gonna be interested

2371
02:06:05,720 --> 02:06:08,440
Speaker 3: or you're not, you know, gonna be interested. You're gonna

2372
02:06:08,440 --> 02:06:10,720
Speaker 3: go on, you know, with your life. I think us

2373
02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:14,520
Speaker 3: in the sports world in how we talk about these

2374
02:06:14,560 --> 02:06:20,120
Speaker 3: sort of things, the ratings question or the ratings topic

2375
02:06:20,160 --> 02:06:22,440
Speaker 3: gets brought up when you don't have anything to say

2376
02:06:22,480 --> 02:06:25,200
Speaker 3: about what just happened. And so that goes back to

2377
02:06:25,240 --> 02:06:27,920
Speaker 3: the Jokic thing of people not just being turned on,

2378
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:30,560
Speaker 3: you know, to who Nicola Jokich is and how he

2379
02:06:30,600 --> 02:06:33,160
Speaker 3: plays and what he does is there's they don't have

2380
02:06:33,160 --> 02:06:36,160
Speaker 3: a lot to say about the Denver Nuggets, and it's

2381
02:06:36,200 --> 02:06:39,920
Speaker 3: it's funny because the high strated NBA Finals did include

2382
02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:44,440
Speaker 3: Michael Jordan your bulls, but it also included the Utah Jazz.

2383
02:06:45,240 --> 02:06:47,480
Speaker 3: So when you look at what happened in like nineteen

2384
02:06:47,560 --> 02:06:50,560
Speaker 3: ninety eight, it's just I would I don't think that

2385
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:52,800
Speaker 3: we would have looked at the Utah Jazz as being

2386
02:06:52,840 --> 02:06:56,760
Speaker 3: that you know, marquee team, and so I just find

2387
02:06:56,800 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 3: that the ratings talk is over. I don't think fans care.

2388
02:07:04,360 --> 02:07:08,040
Speaker 3: I know Denver Nuggets fans don't care. I didn't care

2389
02:07:08,080 --> 02:07:10,919
Speaker 3: two years ago in the Bucks made the NBA Finals.

2390
02:07:11,400 --> 02:07:13,560
Speaker 3: And if you don't care, then you're just not gonna

2391
02:07:13,560 --> 02:07:15,959
Speaker 3: pay attention. And that's kind of comes with the territory.

2392
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:18,120
Speaker 3: I just I think it's such a non topic that

2393
02:07:18,200 --> 02:07:21,800
Speaker 3: it's almost it's become a topic for us in trying

2394
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:24,280
Speaker 3: to talk about how these matchups rate. Right now, the

2395
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:27,080
Speaker 3: Nuggets up three out the NBA Finals, numbers probably aren't

2396
02:07:27,080 --> 02:07:28,640
Speaker 3: gonna be good. End of story.

2397
02:07:28,800 --> 02:07:31,760
Speaker 2: Well, that's the larger point to it all, is like

2398
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:34,240
Speaker 2: you're either in or you're out. Like if you had

2399
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:38,200
Speaker 2: a dog in the fight early on and they've been eliminated,

2400
02:07:38,280 --> 02:07:40,160
Speaker 2: you know what, a lot of fans move on with

2401
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:43,480
Speaker 2: their lives. Maybe they're going to find another nine holes

2402
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:47,480
Speaker 2: that they can play. Maybe they're gonna go sit and

2403
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 2: play a board game with their kids, whereas they would

2404
02:07:51,160 --> 02:07:52,960
Speaker 2: have been locked in saying no, no, no, we need to

2405
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:56,440
Speaker 2: watch this that the other. And so ratings are gonna fluctuate,

2406
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:59,520
Speaker 2: right Lebron James. The phenomenon of Lakers, I mean, you

2407
02:07:59,680 --> 02:08:01,680
Speaker 2: brought up the bulls. I mean part of that was

2408
02:08:01,720 --> 02:08:04,320
Speaker 2: the last dance phenomenon so they might have been playing you,

2409
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,160
Speaker 2: me and three of our closest buddies, and the ratings

2410
02:08:07,200 --> 02:08:11,360
Speaker 2: would have been through the roof. But just the the idea,

2411
02:08:11,440 --> 02:08:14,240
Speaker 2: you know, you get dragged along, I guess. But I

2412
02:08:14,520 --> 02:08:19,880
Speaker 2: think with the ratings conversation, to your point about just

2413
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,920
Speaker 2: covering these teams like it's a big league, there's a

2414
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 2: lot of a lot of teams that fly under the rain.

2415
02:08:25,640 --> 02:08:31,000
Speaker 2: Are a lot of players that don't necessarily for lack

2416
02:08:31,080 --> 02:08:34,760
Speaker 2: of the we'll use the euphemism, get their flowers right,

2417
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:37,080
Speaker 2: because they're playing bad team. Right. Look at look at

2418
02:08:37,120 --> 02:08:40,760
Speaker 2: Kevin Love all those years in Minnesota. Ah, he's only

2419
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:44,040
Speaker 2: got stats because because he's playing on a bad team.

2420
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,960
Speaker 2: Then you team him up with other people, it's like, hey,

2421
02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,880
Speaker 2: you know what, he's pretty good. He gives you some

2422
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,040
Speaker 2: good minute, he gives you some good opportunity.

2423
02:08:51,040 --> 02:08:53,680
Speaker 3: Did the stuff? Yeah, right, just.

2424
02:08:53,120 --> 02:08:55,480
Speaker 2: Just gone down the line. There's there's a lot of

2425
02:08:55,480 --> 02:09:01,080
Speaker 2: that that comes into play, and so it's it's just curiosity,

2426
02:09:01,120 --> 02:09:03,760
Speaker 2: like even now a right, I mentioned him specifically because

2427
02:09:04,080 --> 02:09:07,960
Speaker 2: he's still alive. He's in the Miami Heat squad, doesn't

2428
02:09:08,000 --> 02:09:11,840
Speaker 2: play a ton of minutes, but big body can change things.

2429
02:09:11,920 --> 02:09:14,760
Speaker 2: Up a little bit now and again, but it's it's

2430
02:09:14,840 --> 02:09:20,480
Speaker 2: just the the curiosity of how people consume things. Right,

2431
02:09:20,840 --> 02:09:24,760
Speaker 2: watching a baseball game on Peacock right, it's an ever evolving,

2432
02:09:24,840 --> 02:09:29,400
Speaker 2: ever changing system, and trying to capture who's watching, how

2433
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:32,560
Speaker 2: they're watching, whatever. That's an imperfect science as well as

2434
02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:36,160
Speaker 2: much as anybody wants to claim they've got it on

2435
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 2: a handle. But if you're not interested, you know, as

2436
02:09:39,800 --> 02:09:42,920
Speaker 2: Kevin Durant so famously said, you don't like it, don't.

2437
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:47,040
Speaker 3: Watch, yeah, and and and that maybe the case. I

2438
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:52,760
Speaker 3: I looking at the Nuggets and I'm I'm I don't

2439
02:09:52,760 --> 02:09:55,280
Speaker 3: know they're gonna win Game four, but I think they're

2440
02:09:55,280 --> 02:09:57,600
Speaker 3: gonna win Game five if they don't win Game four.

2441
02:09:58,080 --> 02:10:01,200
Speaker 3: But looking at the Nuggets, it's funny because I think

2442
02:10:01,320 --> 02:10:06,880
Speaker 3: Jokic is such the focus. But watching Jamal Murray last night, again,

2443
02:10:06,920 --> 02:10:08,960
Speaker 3: it was not going to be sustainable. For forty eight

2444
02:10:08,960 --> 02:10:13,680
Speaker 3: minutes those first twenty four that was entertainment.

2445
02:10:13,680 --> 02:10:15,839
Speaker 2: But we've now seen him do that a few times

2446
02:10:15,880 --> 02:10:19,680
Speaker 2: to where that reputation starts to grow the yeah, hey,

2447
02:10:19,720 --> 02:10:22,800
Speaker 2: what's he going to do next? Kind of uh and idea.

2448
02:10:22,640 --> 02:10:25,360
Speaker 3: To see that at the next level. I don't know

2449
02:10:25,400 --> 02:10:28,520
Speaker 3: if you can do that against the Miami Heat. I

2450
02:10:28,520 --> 02:10:31,320
Speaker 3: think you can do it against the Boston Celtics. That

2451
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:34,520
Speaker 3: is that is something to bring me in. And now

2452
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:37,000
Speaker 3: you add to your you know, you add to your

2453
02:10:37,080 --> 02:10:41,920
Speaker 3: legacy like it's it. It's And I say this, Mike,

2454
02:10:42,120 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 3: just of being a Bucks fan and how that Finals

2455
02:10:45,160 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 3: two years ago hit me different because I think that

2456
02:10:48,120 --> 02:10:51,680
Speaker 3: that Finals Bucks Suns, especially coming out of COVID. I

2457
02:10:51,840 --> 02:10:55,240
Speaker 3: think a lot of people remember, but as a Bucks

2458
02:10:55,280 --> 02:10:58,200
Speaker 3: fan like I do, and I think that more people

2459
02:10:58,200 --> 02:11:01,720
Speaker 3: should remember, not only the fifty burger that Giannis put

2460
02:11:01,800 --> 02:11:04,440
Speaker 3: up in Game six, the alley dunk on Chris Paul

2461
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:08,560
Speaker 3: in Game five, the block on DeAndre Ayton. All of

2462
02:11:08,600 --> 02:11:12,520
Speaker 3: those things actually are legendary, should be legendary Finals moments,

2463
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:16,240
Speaker 3: but for some reason people choose to not care. I

2464
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:18,600
Speaker 3: think that's probably gonna be the case with this Finals,

2465
02:11:18,680 --> 02:11:20,000
Speaker 3: and that's very unfortunate.

2466
02:11:20,120 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 2: It's funny you bring up Chris Paul one of the

2467
02:11:22,200 --> 02:11:27,400
Speaker 2: great moments of last night. I forget who it was,

2468
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:30,440
Speaker 2: our guy Kelvin Washington who actually posted this was great.

2469
02:11:30,760 --> 02:11:33,920
Speaker 2: After Scott Foster got run into by Lebron James and

2470
02:11:33,960 --> 02:11:37,200
Speaker 2: had a bloody lit mm hmm, because boy somewhere Chris

2471
02:11:37,240 --> 02:11:40,080
Speaker 2: Paul is getting ready to send a bouquet of flowers

2472
02:11:40,400 --> 02:11:42,200
Speaker 2: Lebron James did.

2473
02:11:42,520 --> 02:11:45,160
Speaker 3: I put this clip up and I don't know what

2474
02:11:45,240 --> 02:11:48,680
Speaker 3: it was, but Dennis Shrewder got the ball on a

2475
02:11:48,720 --> 02:11:54,720
Speaker 3: fast break, completely carried the basketball, but he tossed something

2476
02:11:54,760 --> 02:11:57,480
Speaker 3: to Foster, and I thought maybe it was Foster's whistle

2477
02:11:58,120 --> 02:12:00,920
Speaker 3: or something. But then Foster goes and picks it up

2478
02:12:00,960 --> 02:12:06,240
Speaker 3: and completely ignores ignores it because you know, shrewders tossing

2479
02:12:06,320 --> 02:12:09,080
Speaker 3: him something. It was. It was so crazy and I

2480
02:12:09,120 --> 02:12:11,280
Speaker 3: don't even I still think it was what happened. I

2481
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:15,200
Speaker 3: think it was in that scenario. But yeah, that's quite

2482
02:12:15,200 --> 02:12:20,640
Speaker 3: a cut too. Oh yeah, I'm pretty Yeah, Scott Foster's bleeding.

2483
02:12:21,200 --> 02:12:22,560
Speaker 3: I think the Mike Breen call.

2484
02:12:22,640 --> 02:12:24,560
Speaker 2: You made me bleed my own blood.

2485
02:12:24,800 --> 02:12:27,080
Speaker 3: My ears were bleeding listening to Mark Jackson. I don't

2486
02:12:27,080 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 3: know if that is that.

2487
02:12:30,880 --> 02:12:34,680
Speaker 2: Did he figure out who Yokich is yet? Anyway, he's

2488
02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:37,440
Speaker 2: Dan Bayer. I'm by Carmen having fun with you here

2489
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:38,600
Speaker 2: on a beautiful Fox Sports.

2490
02:12:38,600 --> 02:12:41,800
Speaker 3: I wasn't him hearing the same line fifty million times

2491
02:12:41,880 --> 02:12:47,720
Speaker 3: during an NBA game Austin Powers. All right, we get it,

2492
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:50,680
Speaker 3: we get it, used it once. I don't need it.

2493
02:12:50,720 --> 02:12:52,720
Speaker 3: I don't need it. Fifteen thousand times.

2494
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 2: I have decided to take up a drinking game whenever

2495
02:12:56,320 --> 02:13:02,400
Speaker 2: one of them has a line and the other says preach. Oh,

2496
02:13:02,480 --> 02:13:06,120
Speaker 2: I passed out before halftime yesterday watching that He's damp

2497
02:13:06,160 --> 02:13:09,680
Speaker 2: bire Mike Carbin, Fox Sports Sunday, Fox Sports Radio. We'll

2498
02:13:09,720 --> 02:13:13,839
Speaker 2: stay in the East and the rise of Jimmy Butler.

2499
02:13:14,240 --> 02:13:17,360
Speaker 2: Now I've long been a fan. I built that bandwagon.

2500
02:13:17,640 --> 02:13:20,240
Speaker 2: Are too many people jumping hunting board. We'll talk about

2501
02:13:20,240 --> 02:13:24,680
Speaker 2: it next year on Fox. Welcome back in Fox Sports

2502
02:13:24,800 --> 02:13:27,200
Speaker 2: Radio is Fox Sports Sunday, Mike Carmin, Dan Bayer with

2503
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:31,160
Speaker 2: you having some fun as we get ready for the

2504
02:13:31,200 --> 02:13:36,040
Speaker 2: final round of the PGA Championship. The leaderboard, a couple

2505
02:13:36,080 --> 02:13:39,560
Speaker 2: of those big live golfer names. We talked about it

2506
02:13:39,560 --> 02:13:43,640
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier with Hunter Mayhon and some of

2507
02:13:43,680 --> 02:13:49,520
Speaker 2: the crowd reaction and golfer reaction, and long term, probably

2508
02:13:49,520 --> 02:13:52,200
Speaker 2: the weighted out game kind of like the WWF for years,

2509
02:13:52,200 --> 02:13:56,200
Speaker 2: you have all these fringe operations, regionals and eventually they

2510
02:13:56,280 --> 02:13:59,080
Speaker 2: just kind of go like the blob for those that

2511
02:13:59,160 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 2: ever saw that movie, and they just kind of go

2512
02:14:00,960 --> 02:14:03,800
Speaker 2: in and eventually soak them up, most of them, not all.

2513
02:14:03,880 --> 02:14:07,000
Speaker 3: I think what I think, And if you missed Hunter Man,

2514
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:10,320
Speaker 3: you can always check the podcast Fox Sports Radio dot

2515
02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:13,400
Speaker 3: com after the show. It'll be up. I think his

2516
02:14:13,400 --> 02:14:17,000
Speaker 3: his you know, view of of where Live Golf is

2517
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:20,320
Speaker 3: at this point is correct. It is not as contentious

2518
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:22,680
Speaker 3: except on the first tee when Brooks and Bryce and

2519
02:14:22,680 --> 02:14:25,920
Speaker 3: teed off yesterday and got booed, but has been pointed

2520
02:14:25,920 --> 02:14:28,880
Speaker 3: out by many. You know, Brooks was getting cheers because

2521
02:14:28,880 --> 02:14:34,320
Speaker 3: of his round of sixty six. Liv's role Mike and

2522
02:14:34,320 --> 02:14:38,560
Speaker 3: and it's reflected in Greg Norman, It's been reflected in

2523
02:14:38,600 --> 02:14:42,600
Speaker 3: the comments by some of their their membership, Phil Mickelson

2524
02:14:42,640 --> 02:14:47,240
Speaker 3: and others. Their role really is the villain. There's not

2525
02:14:47,480 --> 02:14:51,880
Speaker 3: a lot of value in them being the face.

2526
02:14:52,280 --> 02:14:55,840
Speaker 2: No, it's all about being the heel. And look at

2527
02:14:55,880 --> 02:14:58,200
Speaker 2: necessary heel. I mean, one of the things Hunter brought

2528
02:14:58,280 --> 02:15:01,440
Speaker 2: up was look what it did for per Yes, even

2529
02:15:01,480 --> 02:15:03,520
Speaker 2: if you stayed, you gotta help.

2530
02:15:03,800 --> 02:15:09,520
Speaker 3: Sure got you got a boost. But loves or lives

2531
02:15:09,680 --> 02:15:16,280
Speaker 3: survival Again, it's the business model really isn't sustainable for

2532
02:15:16,360 --> 02:15:20,480
Speaker 3: what they've done. What I find interesting is if Brooks

2533
02:15:20,560 --> 02:15:24,080
Speaker 3: Keepka wins today or if bryceon de Shamble wins today,

2534
02:15:24,760 --> 02:15:29,320
Speaker 3: what does that do to live golf moving forward? And

2535
02:15:29,680 --> 02:15:33,800
Speaker 3: I think that will actually be the final litmus test

2536
02:15:33,960 --> 02:15:36,680
Speaker 3: on if it's truly a threat. The reason I think

2537
02:15:36,680 --> 02:15:39,480
Speaker 3: that it's died down some is I think the PGA

2538
02:15:39,600 --> 02:15:42,440
Speaker 3: Tour probably there's there's a lot of litigation going on,

2539
02:15:42,840 --> 02:15:45,440
Speaker 3: but I think they probably feel a little better about themselves,

2540
02:15:45,480 --> 02:15:48,760
Speaker 3: Like there wasn't as much of a hit the names

2541
02:15:48,760 --> 02:15:51,560
Speaker 3: of players watching Cam Smith take a putt right now,

2542
02:15:52,080 --> 02:15:56,240
Speaker 3: big loss, big young star. But guess what, there's another

2543
02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:57,160
Speaker 3: star that's gonna come.

2544
02:15:57,880 --> 02:16:02,040
Speaker 2: The game goes on, it does in the absence of

2545
02:16:02,200 --> 02:16:05,360
Speaker 2: those guys on the top ten, a couple other guys

2546
02:16:05,360 --> 02:16:08,360
Speaker 2: become top ten golfers. Yeah, you start to build their narrative.

2547
02:16:08,440 --> 02:16:10,840
Speaker 2: Like you were talking about, you know, when you look

2548
02:16:10,840 --> 02:16:15,480
Speaker 2: at the young players coming into insert league here. Yeah,

2549
02:16:15,480 --> 02:16:19,360
Speaker 2: the heype might be overblown, comparisons may be overblown, but

2550
02:16:19,440 --> 02:16:22,880
Speaker 2: it gets tongues wagging and there's new eyes to pay

2551
02:16:22,920 --> 02:16:23,520
Speaker 2: attention to.

2552
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:27,520
Speaker 3: Mm hmm. Absolutely. And if it's not Cam Smith, guess so,

2553
02:16:27,600 --> 02:16:29,880
Speaker 3: it's gonna be Cam Young. It's gonna be someone else,

2554
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:34,080
Speaker 3: and that's what has happened. What I find could be

2555
02:16:34,120 --> 02:16:38,560
Speaker 3: intriguing is what happens if Koepka and bryceon Win Mike,

2556
02:16:38,600 --> 02:16:41,120
Speaker 3: Are you gonna turn into the CW to watch them

2557
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:44,920
Speaker 3: play a live golf event? And I don't think many

2558
02:16:44,920 --> 02:16:47,640
Speaker 3: people are. And I don't think another TV network's gonna

2559
02:16:47,640 --> 02:16:49,400
Speaker 3: come in and say, like, you know what, we want

2560
02:16:49,480 --> 02:16:54,360
Speaker 3: you guys on our network now because Bryce and to

2561
02:16:54,440 --> 02:16:58,440
Speaker 3: Shamba you won the twenty twenty three PG Championship. Just

2562
02:16:58,480 --> 02:17:03,240
Speaker 3: it's not it's not going to happen. And I and

2563
02:17:03,240 --> 02:17:06,000
Speaker 3: and and this, by the way, there is no credit

2564
02:17:06,040 --> 02:17:09,680
Speaker 3: to live in being like producing great players. These guys

2565
02:17:09,720 --> 02:17:11,200
Speaker 3: were great players. They just gave them a bunch of

2566
02:17:11,240 --> 02:17:13,880
Speaker 3: money and it took. It wasn't like they're they're honing

2567
02:17:13,920 --> 02:17:17,080
Speaker 3: their skills on the on the live tour. That's not

2568
02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,920
Speaker 3: it. It's they were. They were great golfers, and that's why

2569
02:17:19,959 --> 02:17:21,720
Speaker 3: they were offered the money that they were all it.

2570
02:17:22,120 --> 02:17:24,920
Speaker 2: And I think that's the the other argument with it

2571
02:17:25,000 --> 02:17:28,720
Speaker 2: as we go through with it, is that you took

2572
02:17:28,959 --> 02:17:32,360
Speaker 2: what was built and if it was a bus, like

2573
02:17:32,640 --> 02:17:38,800
Speaker 2: the question a business model versus whimsy or just deciding hey,

2574
02:17:38,840 --> 02:17:41,440
Speaker 2: I'd like to to run this, and I've got a

2575
02:17:41,440 --> 02:17:44,480
Speaker 2: bunch of money because that money's never running out, correct, right.

2576
02:17:44,520 --> 02:17:46,920
Speaker 2: If they want to keep it going forever, they can

2577
02:17:47,840 --> 02:17:51,680
Speaker 2: as an entity, whether you you know, credit it wherever

2578
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:54,640
Speaker 2: you will. But if you want to make it to

2579
02:17:54,760 --> 02:17:57,760
Speaker 2: where it's the competitor, then yeah. Now now it's the

2580
02:17:57,800 --> 02:18:01,039
Speaker 2: developmental side. It's not just the name guy. Now, it's

2581
02:18:01,120 --> 02:18:03,240
Speaker 2: need do we have events where there are a number

2582
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:06,560
Speaker 2: of other players that you don't know yet sure are

2583
02:18:06,600 --> 02:18:08,400
Speaker 2: getting bankrolled whatever that might be.

2584
02:18:08,720 --> 02:18:11,080
Speaker 3: Chris Purfett, technical producer.

2585
02:18:11,320 --> 02:18:13,840
Speaker 11: I just wanted to add real quick. You mentioned if

2586
02:18:13,840 --> 02:18:16,120
Speaker 11: they would tune into the CW. This is also assuming

2587
02:18:16,160 --> 02:18:19,560
Speaker 11: if the CW hasn't cut away mid live events too.

2588
02:18:19,800 --> 02:18:22,480
Speaker 2: That's fair point to Chris. Nicely done.

2589
02:18:22,640 --> 02:18:28,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, Jim Nantz has had some singers had Yeah, like

2590
02:18:28,480 --> 02:18:31,360
Speaker 3: if for those of you that missed it or it

2591
02:18:31,400 --> 02:18:36,840
Speaker 3: was and I'm paraphraising, but yeah, absolutely, It's just it's

2592
02:18:36,640 --> 02:18:40,119
Speaker 3: it's funny where we are a year later. And and

2593
02:18:40,160 --> 02:18:43,879
Speaker 3: this isn't to say that the PGA tour mic is this,

2594
02:18:44,400 --> 02:18:48,200
Speaker 3: you know, this angel of a tour. Obviously things were

2595
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,880
Speaker 3: wrong and they had they made change it. Yeah, there's

2596
02:18:50,920 --> 02:18:57,080
Speaker 3: a response, absolutely, but the like lives lives role needs

2597
02:18:57,080 --> 02:18:59,880
Speaker 3: to be the villain because if they don't have that,

2598
02:19:00,920 --> 02:19:04,840
Speaker 3: there isn't that, there's not that reason to tune in.

2599
02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:09,200
Speaker 3: And I think that they are. I think the longer

2600
02:19:09,240 --> 02:19:11,720
Speaker 3: this goes on, the harder it is to keep them

2601
02:19:11,800 --> 02:19:13,160
Speaker 3: more difficult it is to keep the role.

2602
02:19:13,360 --> 02:19:15,160
Speaker 2: I think if you actually went into a board meeting

2603
02:19:15,160 --> 02:19:17,000
Speaker 2: with all of these folks too, every one of them

2604
02:19:17,000 --> 02:19:20,080
Speaker 2: would have a different answer as to why they actually

2605
02:19:20,120 --> 02:19:23,760
Speaker 2: have lift Gulf. Yes, and I think why it exists.

2606
02:19:23,400 --> 02:19:26,320
Speaker 2: It feels like USFL one point zero in that regard,

2607
02:19:26,400 --> 02:19:29,280
Speaker 2: right the eighties USFL, where nobody was quite sure what

2608
02:19:29,360 --> 02:19:32,080
Speaker 2: it was. We yes, decided it was good to have

2609
02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:32,800
Speaker 2: an alternative.

2610
02:19:32,800 --> 02:19:36,520
Speaker 3: But there there does seem to be something that was

2611
02:19:36,920 --> 02:19:41,240
Speaker 3: organic about the nineteen eighties USFL. I don't know what

2612
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:43,600
Speaker 3: it was. I don't know if it's because you know,

2613
02:19:43,640 --> 02:19:46,560
Speaker 3: you're taking Doug Flutie, you know, and bringing him in

2614
02:19:46,640 --> 02:19:50,400
Speaker 3: and taking these guys where we've seen Phil Michelson on

2615
02:19:50,480 --> 02:19:54,960
Speaker 3: tour for thirty years, you know, we've seen Brooks Koepka,

2616
02:19:55,440 --> 02:19:59,400
Speaker 3: Dustin Johnson is wildly successful, and they're playing somewhere else

2617
02:19:59,600 --> 02:20:03,840
Speaker 3: there was. There's something organic about the mid eighties USFL

2618
02:20:04,160 --> 02:20:06,360
Speaker 3: that people still love to this day. I don't think

2619
02:20:06,440 --> 02:20:09,879
Speaker 3: that live color schemes and the yeah, I mean the

2620
02:20:10,000 --> 02:20:12,920
Speaker 3: teams and yeah now, I mean you know, it's obviously

2621
02:20:12,959 --> 02:20:17,600
Speaker 3: it's brought back in playing right now, but it's a yeah,

2622
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:20,840
Speaker 3: there's just nothing organic about live because there's nothing organic

2623
02:20:20,920 --> 02:20:21,400
Speaker 3: about live.

2624
02:20:21,560 --> 02:20:24,920
Speaker 2: Well, I think to the to the USFL point as

2625
02:20:24,920 --> 02:20:27,280
Speaker 2: well as the well, we can't get into that club.

2626
02:20:27,600 --> 02:20:30,400
Speaker 2: So if we start our own club and we offer

2627
02:20:30,440 --> 02:20:33,360
Speaker 2: a bunch of money to jump start it with some

2628
02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:37,840
Speaker 2: of these names, go back and find those USFL trading cards.

2629
02:20:38,080 --> 02:20:43,760
Speaker 2: Those are some classics. But obviously it was torn asunder

2630
02:20:43,800 --> 02:20:46,160
Speaker 2: and we'll we'll let you go to the thirty for

2631
02:20:46,200 --> 02:20:50,680
Speaker 2: thirties and the fantastic. Oh it's a good it's a

2632
02:20:50,680 --> 02:20:53,320
Speaker 2: good one. Yeah, to take a nice trip down memory

2633
02:20:53,360 --> 02:20:57,039
Speaker 2: lane at Chris Perfat where you find Chris Pride to

2634
02:20:57,080 --> 02:21:01,880
Speaker 2: Detroit is the podcast Lion and well all things Detroit

2635
02:21:01,879 --> 02:21:07,000
Speaker 2: sports as well. They're at Chris Purfet pr FE Double

2636
02:21:07,040 --> 02:21:09,760
Speaker 2: t dan byer By Carver with you here Fox Sports Radio.

2637
02:21:09,800 --> 02:21:14,200
Speaker 2: Coming up next, The Curious Case of Jimmy and Why

2638
02:21:14,240 --> 02:21:17,680
Speaker 2: everybody's jumped on board the bandwagon. But first it's Isaac

2639
02:21:17,879 --> 02:21:21,039
Speaker 2: Low and Coron. He's got what's trending in our sporting.

2640
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:26,119
Speaker 6: Universe wagon, as you guys know all too well, fellas.

2641
02:21:26,120 --> 02:21:28,000
Speaker 6: We'll start with the summation of Game three of the

2642
02:21:28,000 --> 02:21:31,160
Speaker 6: Western Conference Finals on Saturday night. It saw Denver to

2643
02:21:31,160 --> 02:21:33,600
Speaker 6: beat the Lakers in LA one nineteen to one to

2644
02:21:33,640 --> 02:21:36,080
Speaker 6: wait for a three games to none lead behind Jamal

2645
02:21:36,160 --> 02:21:39,560
Speaker 6: Murray's thirty seven points. Tonight at eight thirty Eastern Game

2646
02:21:39,600 --> 02:21:43,000
Speaker 6: three of the East Finals, with Miami hosting the Boston Celtics,

2647
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:45,360
Speaker 6: the Heat leading the series two games to none. In

2648
02:21:45,440 --> 02:21:49,560
Speaker 6: Game two of the NHL's Eastern Conference Finals, the Florida

2649
02:21:49,600 --> 02:21:54,160
Speaker 6: Panthers and Carolina Hurricanes once again went to overtime. Now

2650
02:21:54,200 --> 02:21:57,440
Speaker 6: in game one on Thursday night and Friday morning, they

2651
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:01,960
Speaker 6: went four overtimes until Florida's Matthew Kachuk scored the winner.

2652
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:04,880
Speaker 6: Let's find out what happened in overtime of Game two.

2653
02:22:04,959 --> 02:22:08,000
Speaker 6: Here is Doug Plagans on WQAM.

2654
02:22:08,200 --> 02:22:10,680
Speaker 4: Yet Bennett Benett's got the puck. Bennett in a right

2655
02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:12,359
Speaker 4: circle out in front, Ryne.

2656
02:22:12,120 --> 02:22:12,800
Speaker 2: Are back Garth.

2657
02:22:12,879 --> 02:22:13,920
Speaker 4: They score and.

2658
02:22:14,040 --> 02:22:15,160
Speaker 2: It's Matthew kud.

2659
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:18,920
Speaker 8: Chuck the overtime winner and the Panthers.

2660
02:22:18,680 --> 02:22:19,840
Speaker 4: Take Game two.

2661
02:22:20,200 --> 02:22:21,880
Speaker 2: They league two games to nine.

2662
02:22:22,280 --> 02:22:25,320
Speaker 9: It only took a minute and fifty one seconds a

2663
02:22:25,600 --> 02:22:28,080
Speaker 9: power play goal in overtime.

2664
02:22:28,520 --> 02:22:31,080
Speaker 4: The Panthers win it to one.

2665
02:22:31,480 --> 02:22:34,240
Speaker 6: Coming up at three pm Eastern today, it's Game two

2666
02:22:34,280 --> 02:22:37,000
Speaker 6: of the Western Conference Finals from Vegas, with the Golden

2667
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:40,240
Speaker 6: Knights holding a one nothing lead over the Dallas Stars.

2668
02:22:40,280 --> 02:22:43,680
Speaker 6: So all three games in the NHL's two conference final

2669
02:22:43,760 --> 02:22:46,760
Speaker 6: series so far have been decided in overtime. Final route

2670
02:22:46,760 --> 02:22:50,359
Speaker 6: of the PGA Championship, Brooks Kepka the lead at six undres,

2671
02:22:50,400 --> 02:22:53,400
Speaker 6: one shot ahead of Victor Hovelin and Corey Conners. They

2672
02:22:53,400 --> 02:22:56,440
Speaker 6: all te off around two thirty Eastern time today. One

2673
02:22:56,480 --> 02:22:59,360
Speaker 6: Major League Baseball game going on right now. The Reds

2674
02:22:59,360 --> 02:23:01,160
Speaker 6: have a one tough and lead over the Yankees and

2675
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:03,920
Speaker 6: the bottom of the fourth inning in Cincinnati on an

2676
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:07,959
Speaker 6: RBI double by Spencer Steer in the first inning. Aaron Boone,

2677
02:23:07,959 --> 02:23:10,760
Speaker 6: the Yankees manager, was ejected in the bottom of the

2678
02:23:10,760 --> 02:23:13,280
Speaker 6: first inning, and people on social media because he was

2679
02:23:13,280 --> 02:23:17,720
Speaker 6: ejected at eleven fifty two am Eastern time, wondered if

2680
02:23:17,720 --> 02:23:22,600
Speaker 6: that was the earliest ejection by time in major league history,

2681
02:23:22,640 --> 02:23:24,440
Speaker 6: and I thought they might be right. But then again

2682
02:23:24,480 --> 02:23:27,480
Speaker 6: I thought, what about an extra inning game from the

2683
02:23:27,600 --> 02:23:31,200
Speaker 6: night before that carries past midnight? So somewhere along the

2684
02:23:31,240 --> 02:23:33,840
Speaker 6: way a manager got ejected in extra innings after midnight.

2685
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:36,800
Speaker 6: That I'm sure it technically is the earliest ejection in

2686
02:23:36,920 --> 02:23:37,840
Speaker 6: major league history.

2687
02:23:38,120 --> 02:23:41,480
Speaker 2: Toddy Lasorda ever find himself in that situation. I had

2688
02:23:41,520 --> 02:23:43,760
Speaker 2: to get to an Italian restaurant. I mean, I mean,

2689
02:23:43,800 --> 02:23:45,360
Speaker 2: you know I was gonna go take over that night.

2690
02:23:45,480 --> 02:23:48,720
Speaker 2: I mean they were running out of that Fedichini bolon aise.

2691
02:23:50,760 --> 02:23:53,360
Speaker 2: You gotta let Doug Harvey or Joe West do you

2692
02:23:53,560 --> 02:23:56,760
Speaker 2: a solid in that situation. Good call back to you. Well,

2693
02:23:56,800 --> 02:24:00,520
Speaker 2: there you go. It's the one of the things making

2694
02:24:00,520 --> 02:24:04,760
Speaker 2: the round this week. Was was it Bo Jackson talking

2695
02:24:04,760 --> 02:24:07,680
Speaker 2: about getting thrown out of a game because the kid

2696
02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,160
Speaker 2: was gonna be born? Oh, that's right. So he went

2697
02:24:10,200 --> 02:24:12,840
Speaker 2: out of his way to say the magic word to

2698
02:24:12,920 --> 02:24:15,960
Speaker 2: the umpire on what was clearly a third strike. Had

2699
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:18,120
Speaker 2: a good call, but he argued it so he can

2700
02:24:18,160 --> 02:24:23,240
Speaker 2: get thrown out. So he went to the hospital. Jackson

2701
02:24:23,240 --> 02:24:28,400
Speaker 2: got at Isaac Loewen cron oh nose delivery, so he

2702
02:24:28,440 --> 02:24:31,199
Speaker 2: could do that now with a whole mess of different

2703
02:24:31,280 --> 02:24:34,800
Speaker 2: companies along the way. For this next part of the

2704
02:24:34,840 --> 02:24:37,920
Speaker 2: conversation with the Tirack dot Com studios, I go to

2705
02:24:37,959 --> 02:24:40,959
Speaker 2: the amazing Yen of Ocean's eleven, one of my favorite

2706
02:24:40,959 --> 02:24:43,000
Speaker 2: movies of all time. I love the original, right, the

2707
02:24:43,440 --> 02:24:46,480
Speaker 2: rat pack and everything. Much different storyline going on there,

2708
02:24:46,480 --> 02:24:50,039
Speaker 2: but uh, you've got the amazing yen. Right, they bring

2709
02:24:50,080 --> 02:24:52,279
Speaker 2: in and he's doing all the climbing and flipping around

2710
02:24:52,280 --> 02:24:56,760
Speaker 2: whatever they blowed spoiler alert for those it's twenty years old.

2711
02:24:56,879 --> 02:24:59,400
Speaker 2: Get in. If you haven't gotten in you or seen

2712
02:24:59,440 --> 02:25:01,640
Speaker 2: it on cable and stopped, then that's on you.

2713
02:25:02,320 --> 02:25:02,440
Speaker 6: Uh.

2714
02:25:02,680 --> 02:25:05,440
Speaker 2: But they finally blow open the room he's in and

2715
02:25:05,480 --> 02:25:07,360
Speaker 2: he looks and he goes, where the blank you've been?

2716
02:25:08,120 --> 02:25:10,840
Speaker 2: And that's how I feel about people that are now

2717
02:25:10,920 --> 02:25:13,320
Speaker 2: just getting around to, Oh, Jimmy Butler is that guy?

2718
02:25:13,879 --> 02:25:16,080
Speaker 2: Or Nikola jokicch Oh, he's that guy.

2719
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:17,400
Speaker 4: Jimmy, where you've been?

2720
02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:17,840
Speaker 12: Yeah?

2721
02:25:18,000 --> 02:25:22,200
Speaker 2: That is right. So for Jimmy Butler been building that bandwagon.

2722
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:24,960
Speaker 2: I was distraught when he left the Bulls because just

2723
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:28,000
Speaker 2: like the style of player, right, and he's talked about

2724
02:25:28,000 --> 02:25:30,720
Speaker 2: it x teammates have talked about it, just that level

2725
02:25:30,760 --> 02:25:33,200
Speaker 2: of if you're in, you're in, and that was the

2726
02:25:33,240 --> 02:25:36,520
Speaker 2: problem he had Minnesota. And maybe he's the bad guy,

2727
02:25:36,600 --> 02:25:39,400
Speaker 2: Maybe he need to be a better, better leader of

2728
02:25:39,480 --> 02:25:41,560
Speaker 2: let me put my arm around you and bring you

2729
02:25:41,640 --> 02:25:45,920
Speaker 2: along versus I'm here working. Why aren't we all working

2730
02:25:46,000 --> 02:25:49,000
Speaker 2: this hard? And that seemed to be the case in

2731
02:25:49,440 --> 02:25:52,520
Speaker 2: his stops. That part of it was just you need

2732
02:25:52,560 --> 02:25:56,360
Speaker 2: to buy in to what's being sold, and that's where

2733
02:25:56,640 --> 02:25:59,200
Speaker 2: he's found the home in Miami. By the way, could

2734
02:25:59,280 --> 02:26:02,520
Speaker 2: Chuk with back to back overtime winners. You know what

2735
02:26:02,600 --> 02:26:05,440
Speaker 2: Jimmy Butler was doing getting some shots up. He was

2736
02:26:05,480 --> 02:26:10,680
Speaker 2: wearing oh nice, it's a video about that, getting some

2737
02:26:10,760 --> 02:26:14,560
Speaker 2: good video of that with showing some love and maybe

2738
02:26:14,600 --> 02:26:17,240
Speaker 2: a bit of trolling as well. So I have having

2739
02:26:17,240 --> 02:26:20,520
Speaker 2: some fun there. But you know a guy that is

2740
02:26:20,560 --> 02:26:23,279
Speaker 2: down in Miami. And we talk about continuity and teams

2741
02:26:23,320 --> 02:26:26,480
Speaker 2: and we celebrate in the NBA or in the NFL

2742
02:26:26,840 --> 02:26:30,800
Speaker 2: most especially, we talk about tradition of all. Right, Green

2743
02:26:30,840 --> 02:26:36,160
Speaker 2: Bays had thirty years of quarterback cool. Pittsburgh doesn't fire

2744
02:26:37,520 --> 02:26:41,360
Speaker 2: people necessarily, Right, there's a gestation, you know there's gonna

2745
02:26:41,400 --> 02:26:44,480
Speaker 2: be some cyclicality, but you're never gonna hit bottom because

2746
02:26:44,520 --> 02:26:47,680
Speaker 2: you've got organization's stability. You trust your scouts, you try,

2747
02:26:47,720 --> 02:26:51,120
Speaker 2: you trust your front office, and you sure trust your coach.

2748
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:54,280
Speaker 2: New England's kind of a weird spot because you had

2749
02:26:54,320 --> 02:26:56,960
Speaker 2: Belichick Brady for years and now the jury's out in

2750
02:26:57,000 --> 02:26:59,320
Speaker 2: the post Brady era. But we go and there's a

2751
02:26:59,360 --> 02:27:01,720
Speaker 2: couple of other teams that you can celebrate that way.

2752
02:27:01,920 --> 02:27:06,920
Speaker 2: But for the Baltimore for many years, front office coaching

2753
02:27:07,040 --> 02:27:10,440
Speaker 2: might have you flipped a coach, but for the most part,

2754
02:27:10,640 --> 02:27:14,560
Speaker 2: you've had continuity and stability. That's what Miami is in

2755
02:27:14,640 --> 02:27:18,160
Speaker 2: the NBA. And I wonder how much of Jimmy Butler's

2756
02:27:18,200 --> 02:27:23,360
Speaker 2: personality it worked there, especially with the run they had

2757
02:27:23,440 --> 02:27:25,920
Speaker 2: last year, run a couple of years ago in the

2758
02:27:25,920 --> 02:27:28,400
Speaker 2: bubble when he started selling twenty dollars cups of coffee,

2759
02:27:28,680 --> 02:27:30,960
Speaker 2: and to what they've had here, even with some injuries

2760
02:27:31,000 --> 02:27:33,600
Speaker 2: and it's not a perfect season, and we talked about

2761
02:27:33,640 --> 02:27:36,960
Speaker 2: it earlier in the show. This year in the NBA

2762
02:27:37,040 --> 02:27:40,640
Speaker 2: has just been wild, the number of injuries, plus load management,

2763
02:27:40,760 --> 02:27:43,640
Speaker 2: plus player movement and all this other stuff like it's

2764
02:27:43,720 --> 02:27:46,920
Speaker 2: been kind of fun to track and try to piece

2765
02:27:46,959 --> 02:27:50,800
Speaker 2: together the puzzle. But in Miami, when you talk about ownership,

2766
02:27:51,240 --> 02:27:54,720
Speaker 2: no movement there. Okay, not a lot of ownership moves,

2767
02:27:54,720 --> 02:27:57,200
Speaker 2: but we've seen more active especially when you can get

2768
02:27:57,200 --> 02:28:02,680
Speaker 2: four billion dollars for your product. Pat Riley's been there

2769
02:28:02,720 --> 02:28:07,080
Speaker 2: forever and now Spolster's in what you're fifteen with a

2770
02:28:07,160 --> 02:28:09,879
Speaker 2: lot of those guys mentioned you. Donnis Haslam a little

2771
02:28:09,879 --> 02:28:12,360
Speaker 2: bit earlier, and we say it a little bit in jest,

2772
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:15,560
Speaker 2: but he's a player coach at this point, and he's

2773
02:28:15,560 --> 02:28:18,959
Speaker 2: a locker room guy. And for Jimmy Butler being in

2774
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:24,240
Speaker 2: a situation like that just seems like the perfect marriage

2775
02:28:24,280 --> 02:28:26,760
Speaker 2: of things to where it's like, all right, if you're

2776
02:28:26,760 --> 02:28:30,680
Speaker 2: in this organization, you were brought in and vetted by

2777
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:33,120
Speaker 2: the guys in charge because you're a certain type of

2778
02:28:33,160 --> 02:28:35,000
Speaker 2: player to fit into a system.

2779
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:37,879
Speaker 3: It feels that way, and I think it feels that

2780
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:43,120
Speaker 3: way because you see how things go when Jimmy Butler leaves.

2781
02:28:45,200 --> 02:28:47,400
Speaker 3: I probably wasn't fair to him during his time in

2782
02:28:47,480 --> 02:28:54,039
Speaker 3: Minnesota in I thought that he was maybe part of

2783
02:28:54,080 --> 02:28:57,240
Speaker 3: the problem, but in the end, it's he had a

2784
02:28:57,280 --> 02:29:01,840
Speaker 3: problem with what was going on there. The infamous you know,

2785
02:29:01,879 --> 02:29:05,200
Speaker 3: they chose Tobias Harris over me in Philadelphia. Look at

2786
02:29:05,240 --> 02:29:08,879
Speaker 3: where the Sixers still are basically running in place like

2787
02:29:08,920 --> 02:29:11,840
Speaker 3: they have for the last you know, five or six years.

2788
02:29:12,560 --> 02:29:15,760
Speaker 3: And now look at what Jimmy Butler's done with the

2789
02:29:15,800 --> 02:29:20,320
Speaker 3: Heat with probably not as good of a supporting cast.

2790
02:29:20,760 --> 02:29:22,560
Speaker 3: I think there are certain strengths that the Heat have

2791
02:29:22,680 --> 02:29:25,080
Speaker 3: that maybe go under the radar and what you've got

2792
02:29:25,080 --> 02:29:27,039
Speaker 3: with Bam, but you just you don't have somebody with

2793
02:29:27,080 --> 02:29:30,879
Speaker 3: the pedigree of Joel Embiid. I think that the Jimmy

2794
02:29:30,879 --> 02:29:34,400
Speaker 3: Butler love has been a bit overboard in terms of

2795
02:29:35,040 --> 02:29:40,840
Speaker 3: who he is what he's done compared to others. But

2796
02:29:41,800 --> 02:29:44,959
Speaker 3: there is something to what you're saying that it was

2797
02:29:45,000 --> 02:29:47,959
Speaker 3: a perfect marriage and this works. I do think Jimmy

2798
02:29:47,959 --> 02:29:50,640
Speaker 3: Butler wins in Philadelphia. I think Philadelphia wins more if

2799
02:29:50,640 --> 02:29:53,880
Speaker 3: he stays there. I actually think it's now pretty obvious

2800
02:29:53,879 --> 02:29:56,520
Speaker 3: he probably helps change some of that culture there because

2801
02:29:56,560 --> 02:30:00,440
Speaker 3: if he's staying there at works. I just you know,

2802
02:30:00,520 --> 02:30:04,080
Speaker 3: when when you see the guys of the of you

2803
02:30:04,200 --> 02:30:07,360
Speaker 3: have to cast in your chips. That's like they need

2804
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:08,879
Speaker 3: to win this series, they need to go back to

2805
02:30:08,920 --> 02:30:11,080
Speaker 3: the finals. He probably needs to win a title for

2806
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:14,039
Speaker 3: me to to really validate it. It's awesome, and he

2807
02:30:14,120 --> 02:30:15,920
Speaker 3: was great last year in the playoffs and it's been

2808
02:30:16,360 --> 02:30:18,080
Speaker 3: I mean, when you know, when it's on the line,

2809
02:30:18,200 --> 02:30:21,720
Speaker 3: he's been there. But I still it's something he has

2810
02:30:21,800 --> 02:30:23,840
Speaker 3: to prove something to me. I just think when you

2811
02:30:23,879 --> 02:30:27,080
Speaker 3: see like Kawhi Leonard and guys and what Kawhi has accomplished,

2812
02:30:27,680 --> 02:30:30,920
Speaker 3: you know, Jimmy Butler's awesome, has done a great job.

2813
02:30:31,280 --> 02:30:34,119
Speaker 3: But you can't. You've gotta you gotta get that ring.

2814
02:30:34,200 --> 02:30:37,720
Speaker 3: You've gotta at least get to the NBA Finals again,

2815
02:30:37,959 --> 02:30:40,960
Speaker 3: at least for Jimmy Butler. And I think that then

2816
02:30:41,120 --> 02:30:44,000
Speaker 3: really will solidify what he's done. I know you're the stand.

2817
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:45,160
Speaker 3: I know you're the stand for him.

2818
02:30:45,200 --> 02:30:49,359
Speaker 2: Hey, I helped build that bandwagon and then long long ago.

2819
02:30:49,280 --> 02:30:52,039
Speaker 3: There is something about him though. I used the Madison

2820
02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:58,360
Speaker 3: Bumgardner comparison of regular season versus the postseason, you know,

2821
02:30:58,680 --> 02:31:01,680
Speaker 3: and that was such a conver station and Bumgardner's you know,

2822
02:31:01,800 --> 02:31:04,760
Speaker 3: got rings to back up and did it in the

2823
02:31:04,800 --> 02:31:07,920
Speaker 3: most important time. And I think that Jimmy Butler could

2824
02:31:08,040 --> 02:31:11,039
Speaker 3: enter that sort of equation. Uh, if it ever gets

2825
02:31:11,080 --> 02:31:11,720
Speaker 3: to that point.

2826
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:14,439
Speaker 2: What's funny is a lot of the stuff isn't measured

2827
02:31:14,520 --> 02:31:18,360
Speaker 2: necessarily in your traditional box score. Yeah, I think he's

2828
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:20,920
Speaker 2: a curiosity in that way because if you do the

2829
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:24,240
Speaker 2: side by side comparisons regular season averages to playoffs. Now,

2830
02:31:24,240 --> 02:31:28,039
Speaker 2: obviously last year and this year are outliers, and he's

2831
02:31:28,320 --> 02:31:31,400
Speaker 2: the number one because earlier in his career and in

2832
02:31:31,480 --> 02:31:35,400
Speaker 2: different stops, he wouldn't have been. But the splits between

2833
02:31:35,400 --> 02:31:37,959
Speaker 2: points per game or whatever they're they're not much different.

2834
02:31:38,280 --> 02:31:42,080
Speaker 2: It's all the intangibles, filling the passing lane and some

2835
02:31:42,160 --> 02:31:45,879
Speaker 2: of the secondary things in a box score and creating

2836
02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:51,000
Speaker 2: chaos or making it go away in spots.

2837
02:31:50,600 --> 02:31:53,879
Speaker 3: And and honestly, like, looking back, he and Dwayne Wade

2838
02:31:53,920 --> 02:31:58,800
Speaker 3: were seemingly on the same page in Chicago. Nobody else was, right. Yeah,

2839
02:31:59,080 --> 02:32:03,360
Speaker 3: now you see those connects, You see like I probably

2840
02:32:03,400 --> 02:32:05,280
Speaker 3: was on the wrong side of it, thinking that oh,

2841
02:32:05,320 --> 02:32:07,920
Speaker 3: it's here's here's the diva. Wade just wanted to come

2842
02:32:07,959 --> 02:32:10,600
Speaker 3: back home and get his accolades, blah blah blah. But

2843
02:32:11,080 --> 02:32:13,160
Speaker 3: now you look back and be like, Okay, there's probably

2844
02:32:13,160 --> 02:32:15,720
Speaker 3: something to it, and probably why he and Wade got along.

2845
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:19,760
Speaker 3: Considering of the Miami Heat pedigree, with Dwayne Wade well.

2846
02:32:19,600 --> 02:32:22,920
Speaker 2: And that from all reports, Butler didn't necessarily get along

2847
02:32:22,959 --> 02:32:25,840
Speaker 2: with too many others in each of these steps, but

2848
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:30,760
Speaker 2: certainly in that pedigree. Big Head Coffee is the twenty

2849
02:32:30,760 --> 02:32:33,040
Speaker 2: bucks a cup. I'll have to try a cup at

2850
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:35,959
Speaker 2: some point. He's day a buyer. I'm by Carmen here

2851
02:32:36,040 --> 02:32:39,080
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. Coming up next,

2852
02:32:39,160 --> 02:32:41,560
Speaker 2: We've got the Progressive Play of the Day, and the

2853
02:32:41,600 --> 02:32:45,160
Speaker 2: Super Bowl is returning to a city from a couple

2854
02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:48,480
Speaker 2: of years ago. Can't wait to make the drive. We'll

2855
02:32:48,480 --> 02:32:50,480
Speaker 2: tell you all about it. Coming up next here on Fox.

2856
02:32:51,040 --> 02:32:55,760
Speaker 2: He the Nuggets with another win to take a commanding

2857
02:32:55,920 --> 02:32:59,960
Speaker 2: three zero lead, and it's time now for they progress

2858
02:33:00,400 --> 02:33:01,400
Speaker 2: Power Play of the Day.

2859
02:33:04,760 --> 02:33:06,920
Speaker 4: Back over to Joker for Murray. He spins in the

2860
02:33:06,920 --> 02:33:08,160
Speaker 4: paint kickout three.

2861
02:33:07,959 --> 02:33:10,000
Speaker 2: Quarter fall game.

2862
02:33:11,360 --> 02:33:15,480
Speaker 6: Tens are gonna win Game number three, then go up

2863
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:19,039
Speaker 6: three to mil They're all fights fourteen points.

2864
02:33:18,720 --> 02:33:22,320
Speaker 2: With one and then it's a go. I'm jacked up

2865
02:33:22,360 --> 02:33:28,519
Speaker 2: about it. Progressive Play of the Day. Progressive banks easier

2866
02:33:28,959 --> 02:33:32,199
Speaker 2: see had callbacks right. They'll help you bundle your home

2867
02:33:32,280 --> 02:33:35,120
Speaker 2: and car inschurch together so that you can save on both.

2868
02:33:35,200 --> 02:33:38,879
Speaker 2: Learn more Progressive dot Com or Call one eight hundred

2869
02:33:39,200 --> 02:33:44,160
Speaker 2: Progressive Altitude Radio on the call home calls are the best,

2870
02:33:44,920 --> 02:33:50,240
Speaker 2: all right, Like nothing against the national TV folks. A lot,

2871
02:33:50,320 --> 02:33:53,360
Speaker 2: a lot of great work being done, but that passion

2872
02:33:54,200 --> 02:33:57,160
Speaker 2: of the team that you've been living in, dying with

2873
02:33:58,680 --> 02:34:04,840
Speaker 2: and oftentimes writing the eulogies for first or second round

2874
02:34:04,959 --> 02:34:08,600
Speaker 2: exits right and watching the clock tick down on another

2875
02:34:08,720 --> 02:34:13,760
Speaker 2: season stepping stones for some failures for others, depending on

2876
02:34:13,800 --> 02:34:16,080
Speaker 2: where you're at somewhere in that continuum. But for the

2877
02:34:16,120 --> 02:34:20,600
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets, another huge step forward for that franchise and

2878
02:34:20,680 --> 02:34:25,440
Speaker 2: maybe some more recognition for that core. Dare I say

2879
02:34:25,440 --> 02:34:26,439
Speaker 2: big three.

2880
02:34:26,200 --> 02:34:28,960
Speaker 3: Well, they're going to The Nuggets are gonna get a

2881
02:34:29,000 --> 02:34:33,200
Speaker 3: lot of recognition. I think that when you look at

2882
02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:36,080
Speaker 3: what's ahead of them, they may not win Game four.

2883
02:34:36,560 --> 02:34:38,200
Speaker 3: There are a lot of times there are just weird

2884
02:34:38,240 --> 02:34:40,200
Speaker 3: game four wins. You'd think a team is out of it,

2885
02:34:40,280 --> 02:34:42,120
Speaker 3: and then they end up salvaging one because they don't

2886
02:34:42,120 --> 02:34:47,680
Speaker 3: want to be embarrassed. But it would end in Game five,

2887
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:50,320
Speaker 3: and it's no disrespect to the Lakers, and what is

2888
02:34:50,360 --> 02:34:54,120
Speaker 3: actually the series has been closer than the three nothing lead.

2889
02:34:54,240 --> 02:34:56,680
Speaker 3: But I think that what we can surmise from that

2890
02:34:56,720 --> 02:34:58,680
Speaker 3: three nothing lead is that the Nuggets are just the

2891
02:34:58,720 --> 02:35:01,879
Speaker 3: better team. So for them to lose four straight in

2892
02:35:01,959 --> 02:35:04,240
Speaker 3: this sense, a lot of teams have gone up two

2893
02:35:04,320 --> 02:35:07,840
Speaker 3: oh and then haven't won a game in a series

2894
02:35:08,480 --> 02:35:10,840
Speaker 3: because maybe another team figures it out. Three to oh

2895
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:13,360
Speaker 3: is a different story, and this one should end in

2896
02:35:13,400 --> 02:35:14,720
Speaker 3: four or five oh.

2897
02:35:14,720 --> 02:35:18,480
Speaker 2: For one three to zero, folks bringing up the hey, Lebron,

2898
02:35:18,520 --> 02:35:20,240
Speaker 2: you've done everything else in your life, you haven't done

2899
02:35:20,280 --> 02:35:22,720
Speaker 2: this one in the post game. So that was kind

2900
02:35:22,760 --> 02:35:24,640
Speaker 2: of fun, fun narrative.

2901
02:35:24,280 --> 02:35:28,840
Speaker 3: Isn't that just? Isn't that just if it sticks awesome.

2902
02:35:28,920 --> 02:35:30,800
Speaker 3: If it doesn't, nobody's gonna remember it.

2903
02:35:31,040 --> 02:35:31,480
Speaker 2: No, it's it.

2904
02:35:31,760 --> 02:35:32,240
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2905
02:35:32,400 --> 02:35:34,840
Speaker 2: Yeah. It's like you know the old p Townsend song,

2906
02:35:34,920 --> 02:35:37,480
Speaker 2: let My Love Open the door. If you're the Nuggets,

2907
02:35:37,600 --> 02:35:40,080
Speaker 2: you're trying to slam it and slam a couple of

2908
02:35:40,160 --> 02:35:42,400
Speaker 2: nails in there, Nuggets as fast as you can.

2909
02:35:42,520 --> 02:35:45,600
Speaker 3: They won three different ways, and you know, give the

2910
02:35:45,680 --> 02:35:49,240
Speaker 3: Lakers credit for their comeback in game one, give them

2911
02:35:49,280 --> 02:35:52,160
Speaker 3: credit for what they you know, did in Game two

2912
02:35:52,320 --> 02:35:56,920
Speaker 3: before Denver ultimately prevailed late and even coming back yesterday.

2913
02:35:56,920 --> 02:35:59,040
Speaker 3: But it was what happened in the fourth quarter. That

2914
02:35:59,120 --> 02:36:01,879
Speaker 3: just really tells you, all right, Denver's probably the better

2915
02:36:01,879 --> 02:36:02,280
Speaker 3: team here.

2916
02:36:02,320 --> 02:36:06,520
Speaker 2: But like Miami against Boston, if I have my choice

2917
02:36:06,520 --> 02:36:09,840
Speaker 2: in the final minutes of a game, I'm taking what

2918
02:36:09,879 --> 02:36:14,320
Speaker 2: the Nuggets are bringing, much like give me spolsterra and

2919
02:36:14,400 --> 02:36:18,120
Speaker 2: Butler and what that mentality is in closing out games

2920
02:36:18,200 --> 02:36:21,240
Speaker 2: right now over what Boston may not be able to

2921
02:36:21,240 --> 02:36:25,280
Speaker 2: do in close circumstances. Hey, super Bowl sixty reportedly being

2922
02:36:25,360 --> 02:36:29,280
Speaker 2: awarded to San Francisco. We had a fantastic time there

2923
02:36:29,280 --> 02:36:30,680
Speaker 2: a couple of years ago. I got to listen to

2924
02:36:30,720 --> 02:36:33,480
Speaker 2: Aim Metallica show outside, kind of like people are doing

2925
02:36:33,480 --> 02:36:36,200
Speaker 2: for Taylor Swift. We found a little way where they

2926
02:36:36,240 --> 02:36:39,080
Speaker 2: were selling beer and you could still hear every note.

2927
02:36:39,160 --> 02:36:42,120
Speaker 3: I think I was there. Was Weese there as well. Yeah, yeah,

2928
02:36:42,120 --> 02:36:43,720
Speaker 3: because I was actually on my way to pick up

2929
02:36:43,760 --> 02:36:46,080
Speaker 3: food and I met you guys. Yeah, I was with

2930
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:50,720
Speaker 3: the Wist Brothers. Yes, yeah, yes, yes, I left. I

2931
02:36:50,840 --> 02:36:53,880
Speaker 3: left before and just went back because I was sick

2932
02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:57,160
Speaker 3: all week. That is beside the point that stadium is

2933
02:36:57,200 --> 02:37:00,400
Speaker 3: so funky. But I do love the NFL going back

2934
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:04,040
Speaker 3: to a spot that it wasn't just a one off.

2935
02:37:04,200 --> 02:37:08,200
Speaker 3: So I congratulate them. I think they should go back

2936
02:37:08,240 --> 02:37:10,960
Speaker 3: to Detroit again one time. They should go back to Indy.

2937
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,360
Speaker 3: They should go back to Minneapolis and New.

2938
02:37:13,280 --> 02:37:17,280
Speaker 2: York Arlington Heights in a couple of years. Yes, yes,

2939
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:21,400
Speaker 2: the Bears probably move away from the city. He's Dan Byer,

2940
02:37:21,480 --> 02:37:23,880
Speaker 2: I'm by Carbon. This has been Fox Sports Sunday, Fox

2941
02:37:23,920 --> 02:37:27,160
Speaker 2: Sports Radio. Get the podcast up wherever you download your audio.

2942
02:37:27,200 --> 02:37:31,320
Speaker 2: Give it five stars and look early Father's Day presidence,

2943
02:37:31,600 --> 02:37:34,080
Speaker 2: maybe a graduation president. Get out of the car for

2944
02:37:34,160 --> 02:37:36,199
Speaker 2: the kid. We'll talk to you soon here on Fox