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Speaker 1: show tonight. What an incredible basketball game that Milwaukee Bucks

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Speaker 1: It is back and forth like five different times. There

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Speaker 1: We're gonna break that game down in detail, and then

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get into Anthony Davis and the story that

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Speaker 1: think that the Lakers still have an outside chance of

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Speaker 1: guys who stick around around the end, we're gonna play

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Speaker 1: with that Bucks Nets game. So, like I said, an

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Speaker 1: always talk about how the NBA's about matchups. You know,

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Speaker 1: their styles make fights. It's all those classic cliches. But

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Speaker 1: And these two teams could not be more different in

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Speaker 1: Bucks were sending a lot of extra help towards Kevin Durant.

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Speaker 1: why this team could potentially go on a run, is

431
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Speaker 1: now you're playing better role players instead of it being

432
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Speaker 1: Kemp bays Moore, instead of being Avery Bradley, instead of

433
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Speaker 1: it being Trevor Ariza, and instead of it being Dwight

434
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 1: Howard minutes, which have proven to be really bad as

435
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 1: of late. Instead of those players, it's guys like Austin Reeves,

436
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,360
Speaker 1: who has taken almost all of Avery Bradley's minutes. He's

437
00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:28,040
Speaker 1: a significantly better player at this point in his career.

438
00:22:28,280 --> 00:22:31,200
Speaker 1: It's been Stanley Johnson taking over for Trevor Areasa. He's

439
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:33,920
Speaker 1: a better player at this point in his career. It's

440
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,879
Speaker 1: when In Gabriel playing some of those other forward center minutes.

441
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:41,159
Speaker 1: He's a better player right now than Dwight Howard or

442
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:45,640
Speaker 1: DeAndre Jordan Wars. So you've got better rotational role players

443
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,840
Speaker 1: in that mix now, and then, last, but not least,

444
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:51,200
Speaker 1: it's about these shrunken rotation over the course of the

445
00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,680
Speaker 1: regular season. You're trying to keep Lebron in a d

446
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:56,440
Speaker 1: s minutes down to thirty eight minutes per game. There's

447
00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 1: these random shifts that don't make any sense. Think about

448
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: how often this year you've looked at random line ups

449
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,600
Speaker 1: that have had three little guards on the floor like

450
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 1: Avery Bradley, Russell Westbrook, Malik Monk, at the same time

451
00:23:07,200 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 1: with like Taylor Horton Tucker who's only six four playing

452
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,360
Speaker 1: power forward. There's been a lot of examples of where

453
00:23:13,359 --> 00:23:16,680
Speaker 1: the Lakers have had to dive into their weaknesses as

454
00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: a result of just injuries and and trying to get

455
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,359
Speaker 1: through the regular season. In the playoffs, it's gonna be

456
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 1: thirty eight to forty minutes of Lebron in a d

457
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Speaker 1: In a big pivotal game, it's gonna be forty two

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Speaker 1: to forty four minutes of those guys. It's only gonna

459
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Speaker 1: be like five or six other role players that get

460
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Speaker 1: to play. Frank is gonna be able to just straight

461
00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: up bench a guy if he's not playing well because

462
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Speaker 1: he's not trying to spell for the eighty two game season,

463
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,760
Speaker 1: he's not trying to save people's legs. You're just playing

464
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: every game like it's your last. Those are the reasons

465
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Speaker 1: why I think they have a puncher's chance if you

466
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Speaker 1: look at their regular the remaining schedule. So everything broke

467
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Speaker 1: down over the last two days exactly like I expected,

468
00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 1: although it was a little touch and go with San

469
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Speaker 1: Antonio and Memphis the other night. Uh I can't remember

470
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Speaker 1: who it was for the Spurs, but one of their

471
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: young guards had a decent look to win that game,

472
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Speaker 1: and had he made it, all of a sudden, you're

473
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 1: down one game on the Spurs with them having the tiebreaker,

474
00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,640
Speaker 1: that could have been the final nail in the coffin.

475
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:20,960
Speaker 1: But things broke the way I expected. I expect the

476
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Speaker 1: Lakers to finish losing tonight in Utah, which will put

477
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Speaker 1: both teams, the Spurs and the Lakers at thirty one

478
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Speaker 1: with six games left, except for the Lakers are bringing

479
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Speaker 1: back Lebron James and Anthony Davis. So the remaining schedule

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Speaker 1: for the Lakers, they play the Pelicans on Friday, they

481
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Speaker 1: play the Nuggets on Sunday, and then they finished the

482
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Speaker 1: season with the Sons, the Warriors, the Thunder and the Nuggets. Now,

483
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:45,879
Speaker 1: let's take a real quick look at those games. Do

484
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Speaker 1: I think the Lakers with Lebron James and Anthony Davis

485
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Speaker 1: playing for their basketball lives at home on Friday, will

486
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Speaker 1: get a win, Yes, I do. Do I think that

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00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,280
Speaker 1: they're capable of beating that Nuggets team that's, you know,

488
00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,680
Speaker 1: not that talented. Absolutely. Do I think they can beat

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Speaker 1: the sun Hell no, not yet. Maybe, but maybe by

490
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: the time they get to the first round, but that's

491
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Speaker 1: probably a loss, but they could be two and one

492
00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: at that point. Do I think they could beat the

493
00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:10,679
Speaker 1: Warriors without Steph Curry? Absolutely? Do. I think they can

494
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: beat the thunder Absolutely, And then there's the Nuggets again.

495
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Speaker 1: So five and one is very much on the table

496
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. In fact, I would argue, if Lebron

497
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Speaker 1: and a D are healthy and playing like their lives

498
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,919
Speaker 1: depend on it, they should win those games. So that

499
00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,800
Speaker 1: will put the Lakers firmly potentially if the Pelicans dropped

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Speaker 1: some games, potentially at that nine seed, but that will

501
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Speaker 1: get them into the plane. I believe as long as

502
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Speaker 1: Lebron and a D don't get hurt here in the

503
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Speaker 1: next couple of days, I believe the Lakers will make

504
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Speaker 1: it into the playing game. And for all the reasons

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Speaker 1: that I just laid out, I think they have a

506
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Speaker 1: chance to at least a Puncher's chance to make some

507
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 1: noise there. But they have to get some breaks. Yeah,

508
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 1: would Chris Paul have to not play super well with

509
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Speaker 1: the Suns potentially have to have an injury where there

510
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: have to be some younger role players to struggle. Absolutely,

511
00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of stuff that has to break right

512
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Speaker 1: for them. But I'm in a different mind space that

513
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 1: I was about a month ago when it looked like

514
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:08,639
Speaker 1: this team was basically trying to quit. Alright, everybody on YouTube.

515
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,560
Speaker 1: I'm bringing my guy Carson on. We are going to

516
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Speaker 1: play a game. What's up, Jason? How you doing, man?

517
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 1: I'm doing great. This has been a super fun night

518
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 1: of NBA action. Obviously, Bucks Nets you talked about we

519
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 1: got a Clippers Bulls and ot Tomorrows forty four now,

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00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:29,880
Speaker 1: I think so we got a good basketball to watch. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: all right, We've got a fun game for you here today.

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00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,000
Speaker 1: It's called that's what he said. So we're gonna give

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00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,440
Speaker 1: you a SoundBite, a quote from around the league that

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00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: we think is interesting, and have you listen, and then

525
00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: I'll give you a question. Get your thoughts on it.

526
00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 1: Sound good? All right, I'm excited, let's hear it. Alright.

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Speaker 1: So The first one we have is from Draymond Green

528
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 1: on The Draymond Green Show, obviously his podcast with the volume,

529
00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:55,360
Speaker 1: talking about how he was disappointed with his own play

530
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,880
Speaker 1: as of late, with the Warriors play as of late overall.

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Speaker 1: So let's take a listen. Three of you is I've

532
00:27:00,640 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: been terrible. Um, I've been terrible defensively, I've been terrible offensively,

533
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: and so that's just what it is. Now what am

534
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 1: I going to do to fix that? Well, I'm going

535
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 1: to continue to do what I've been doing, which is

536
00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: putting the work in. And ultimately, my whole life is

537
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: a product of hard work. You put the work in,

538
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: you get the resource. I know I've put the work in.

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00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 1: But also, no things don't happen overnight. You know, you

540
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160
Speaker 1: don't just go from missing two and a half almost

541
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: three months of basketball while everybody's playing at a high

542
00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 1: level and just return and it's and that's that. You know,

543
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't work like that. So obviously this has now

544
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: been a pretty consistent downward trend for the Warriors, and

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00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: You've talked about this a lot as of late. So

546
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:45,919
Speaker 1: how concerned are you about them right now? As we

547
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: had in the postseason, I don't think they're a top

548
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 1: tier contender, but I felt that way for a long time,

549
00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,119
Speaker 1: and it's not attached to Draymond. I think I had

550
00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 1: them at second and my contenders the other day, and

551
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:01,080
Speaker 1: it's only because of how much I trust those three.

552
00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:05,399
Speaker 1: I have an unbelievable amount of respect for Steph, Clay

553
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: and Draymond and what they've accomplished in their past and

554
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 1: what they will be capable of when they get to

555
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: the postseason. Now, as far as Draymond goes, a couple

556
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: of things, Like, you know, there the wall of getting

557
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 1: out of NBA shape and into or i'll just call

558
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: it basketball shape. Um, when you're getting in and out

559
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,320
Speaker 1: of basketball shape, it's a process. We we call it

560
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:30,520
Speaker 1: breaking through the wall. So essentially, there comes a point

561
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: when you're really working your way back into shape where

562
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:36,399
Speaker 1: your body almost gets behind in its recovery and you

563
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 1: feel clunky and you feel slow, and it can take

564
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: like the better part of a month before you really

565
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,600
Speaker 1: get back. Like if they make it to the second

566
00:28:45,640 --> 00:28:48,120
Speaker 1: or third round, it might take until the middle of

567
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 1: the second round or early third round before Draymond really

568
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: really looks like Draymond, just just in terms of his

569
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,160
Speaker 1: physicality because that's just the process now. As far as

570
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: as his offense goes, so much of it is Steph

571
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:02,520
Speaker 1: like Stephen Draymond very symbiotic players. A lot of what's

572
00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: a Draymond does offensively depends on his ability to make

573
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: reads and four on three scenarios. And the only way

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00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 1: he can get four on three scenarios is if you

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Speaker 1: have a player like Steph Curry that commands a trap

576
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,200
Speaker 1: on every single pick and roll. So a lot of

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00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: what Draymond does offensively is limited when he's not playing

578
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: with Steph Curry. And and in return, Steph needs Draymond

579
00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: for everything that he does, So they're very symbiotic pairing.

580
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: But I'm not worried about Draymond at all, and I

581
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: and he's right. I trust his hard work and I

582
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:31,120
Speaker 1: have I've no doubt that they'll be able to recapture

583
00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 1: what they were as long as Steph can get back

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00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: on the court and get healthy. What do you think

585
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: is the one thing that needs to change most of

586
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: them beyond obviously just getting step back, But what do

587
00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,360
Speaker 1: they really still need to figure out and fix above

588
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: everything else. I think they're fine, like they and right

589
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: now is currently constructed. They're as good as they can

590
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: be without a massive identity change. So like I I'm

591
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: a so they've They're like the Lakers with their injury

592
00:29:59,320 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: luck this year, like Draymond got hurt, was out forever

593
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 1: and then he comes back, and then Steph got hurt.

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00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 1: So everything you've seen on the court with them this

595
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: year is kind of your relevant to what they're going

596
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: to be right now that that group of of Steph,

597
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Clay Dre and Jordan Poole kind of off the bench

598
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: and then all of those wings that they have, that

599
00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 1: all works great. The only the greatest weakness of this

600
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: team is the same weakness they had in two thousand fifteen,

601
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Speaker 1: two thousand sixteen and in two thousand nineteen after Kevin

602
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,240
Speaker 1: Durant went down. Steph Curry is not a physically imposing star,

603
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: so when defense is really locked in on him, if

604
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: he misses shots, they don't have another great punch. I

605
00:30:37,520 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: love the big wings in the league. This is why

606
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: I always get drawn back to Janest Lebron and Kevin Durant.

607
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,520
Speaker 1: When you have the ability to really apply a physical

608
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: pressure on the game with your physical tools, I think

609
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 1: that's an extra punch and an extra versatility. So I'm

610
00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 1: still a big believer in them when they're healthy. I

611
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 1: put them right below Phoenix and that next tier. But

612
00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: they're never gonna become the world beaters they were again

613
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: unless they find a big forward that can develop into

614
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,960
Speaker 1: a rim pressuring guy Wiggins, isn't it. Maybe it becomes

615
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 1: Jonathan cominga in the future, But you know how I

616
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: feel about lining up timelines, So who knows, But that's

617
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: that's what I've used their biggest weakness. Alright, Well, again,

618
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,160
Speaker 1: that specific sound bite came from Draymond's podcast and he

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00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 1: had Jason Tatum on this week. That's coming out soon,

620
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: so everybody should go ahead and check that out. Always

621
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: super interesting here and him talked to other NBA guys. Alright,

622
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: so our next quote here is related to the Defensive

623
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,960
Speaker 1: Player of the Year conversation, and you just did attempts

624
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: tape breakdown on the Jazz defense. Obviously, Rudy Gobert is

625
00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: always somewhere in that conversation, some people calling him Stifled

626
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680
Speaker 1: Tower or some people calling him Rudy Gogert deeply divisive.

627
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: But Marcus Smart came out and talked about sort of

628
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: how they compare defensively, and he said, Rudy can't guard

629
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: all five spots. I can guard all five spots and

630
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,120
Speaker 1: I've been doing it. I've done it very well. So Jason,

631
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 1: what's your action to that? And who would you have

632
00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: as deepoy right now? Wait, that was Marcus Smart that

633
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, you're kidding me. Okay, um, So, I,

634
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: like everybody else who a couple of years ago, jumped

635
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: on the Rudy Gobert slander train, you know when that

636
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 1: always going down Utah Jazz fans, people that I trust, like,

637
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,959
Speaker 1: I try to find people that cover each team that

638
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: follow them on a day to day basis, because you

639
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,840
Speaker 1: can never like, my knowledge of the Lakers will never

640
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: be the same as what I have for the rest

641
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: of the teams because I've literally watched every single game

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Speaker 1: they've played this year. For the rest of the league,

643
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Speaker 1: I do my best to parse out my time right.

644
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Speaker 1: The Jazz fans kept coming to me and saying, like,

645
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Speaker 1: it's not Rudy, it's the other guys, and so I

646
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: dove into the tape extensively. Rudy guards ones absolutely fine.

647
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: Rudy King guard all five positions on the floor extremely well.

648
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Speaker 1: He is not the problem. I know, highlights get put

649
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: in there where a guy scores on somebody, but all

650
00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,680
Speaker 1: of the best the defensive players in the in the

651
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Speaker 1: in the league gets scored on. You can find Ben

652
00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 1: Simmons getting scored on. You can find Kauai getting scored on.

653
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Speaker 1: It's all part of the bit surrounding Rudy Gobert. The

654
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Speaker 1: gist of it is the Utah Jazz have a huge

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Speaker 1: void in their perimeter defense, and so they rely on

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Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert to clean everything up. And all of the

657
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: really smart teams in the league have figured out that

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Speaker 1: if you get him in rotation, even just once or twice,

659
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Speaker 1: and get him out to the perimeter, then all of

660
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:29,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, you have no defense and the perimeter and

661
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: then no help on the back line, and it's just

662
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Speaker 1: a layup line. They have a history of having really

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Speaker 1: good defense in the you know, aggregate Grand scheme regular season,

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Speaker 1: but they struggle against really good teams. They struggle against

665
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Speaker 1: five out teams, they struggle against teams that have a

666
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Speaker 1: lot of guys who can dribble drive. And so I

667
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Speaker 1: am going to have Rudy Gobert's back here. Marcus Smart

668
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: is amazing, but he's not Rudy Gobert. So I think

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Speaker 1: this is interesting because a lot of times people do

670
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Speaker 1: bring up the argument of versatility, and this is always

671
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Speaker 1: the thing with Draymond versus Rudy, and it was a

672
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Speaker 1: thing with Ben Simmons versus Rudy. But my thought has

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Speaker 1: kind of been, if you're just talking about regular season defense,

674
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Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to just the overwhelming impact

675
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Speaker 1: that he does have as that deterrent and like the

676
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:20,319
Speaker 1: defensive on off numbers, the opponent field goal differential, it's

677
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Speaker 1: really hard to argue against Rudy Gobert is deepoy kind

678
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Speaker 1: of every year. But if he's not really the best

679
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Speaker 1: defensive player on the planet when it matters most, do

680
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: you think that there needs to be like a reevaluation there,

681
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:33,799
Speaker 1: or like, do you just kind of have to give

682
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,400
Speaker 1: it to him, because in regular season terms, you know,

683
00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: nobody really is more impactful most of the time. So

684
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Speaker 1: but in in Rudy's defense, though, the Jazz defense falling

685
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: apart in the postseason is not necessarily Rudy falling apart.

686
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Speaker 1: So now if we're talking like who's better Draymond or Rudy,

687
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Speaker 1: that's a different conversation because they're kind of different a

688
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: bunch of different ways. Rudy's all length and Draymond is

689
00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 1: all physical city. You know, he's a very He's a

690
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 1: good vertical defenders. He bumps people off of their line

691
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Speaker 1: really really well. But like both of them have shown

692
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Speaker 1: a propensity to get beat in straight line drive scenarios

693
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Speaker 1: on the perimeter. Neither of them are great out in

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Speaker 1: the perimeter. They're just fantastic back line defenders. I would

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Speaker 1: argue that Draymond's probably a little bit better of a

696
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Speaker 1: back line communicator, Like he's a higher i Q defender,

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Speaker 1: which I think might give him an edge in my book.

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Speaker 1: But like again, I think I think that I think

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Speaker 1: if we saw Rudy Gobert doing what Brook Lopez was doing,

700
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Speaker 1: we would all be terrified. So for the Bucks, so

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Speaker 1: I'm I'm I guess what I'm saying is I want

702
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Speaker 1: to distance the jazz Is defense from what Rudy Gobert

703
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Speaker 1: is capable of a different as a defensive player, if

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Speaker 1: that makes sense. Yeah, and you mentioned the Bucks, they're

705
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Speaker 1: real quick. We have some people in the comments talking

706
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Speaker 1: about Janice. Where do you think he figures into that

707
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Speaker 1: conversation for defense? Yeah, in terms of depot best defender alive,

708
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 1: So he is as a help defender the best you'll

709
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Speaker 1: find in the league. But so Joel Embie did a

710
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: really interesting bit on this with J. J. Reddick the

711
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Speaker 1: other day in his podcast actually I think it released today,

712
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Speaker 1: and Joel basically said, I think a big man should

713
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Speaker 1: be Defensive Player of the Year every year. And what

714
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 1: he pointed out, which is an interesting element to this, is,

715
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Speaker 1: in a lot of ways, the back line defender. So

716
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Speaker 1: whoever plays that Draymond, Rudy, Gobert, Brook Lopez type of role,

717
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: that guy actually is the quarterback of the defense. So

718
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Speaker 1: beyond his individual responsibilities, he's also responsible because he's behind everybody.

719
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Speaker 1: Like it doesn't make sense for the point guard to

720
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Speaker 1: call out plays because he can't see what's happening behind it,

721
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 1: but the back line defender is essentially making a read

722
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Speaker 1: based on what he sees as the offense is coming

723
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Speaker 1: down the floor and he's calling out coverages. So there's

724
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Speaker 1: a whole other element to that. So as good as

725
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Speaker 1: Janice is and I'm not undercutting that at all, he

726
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: un of factors more into that, Like he's a perimeter

727
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,280
Speaker 1: player who's great in help but he's not a Draymond

728
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Speaker 1: Green like quarterback of a defense, which is a different

729
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Speaker 1: I talked a lot today today. He's frightening. When he's

730
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,480
Speaker 1: closing out, he's amazing. He's you could argue in a

731
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Speaker 1: one or two possession setting, you wouldn't want anybody else

732
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Speaker 1: on the plan it as a defender. But in terms

733
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Speaker 1: of the day and day out chess match type stuff,

734
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Speaker 1: especially in a playoff series, I think I'd have to

735
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Speaker 1: put the Rudy Goberts and the Draymond Still ahead of

736
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Speaker 1: him because you have to factor in that quarterback of

737
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Speaker 1: the defense element. If that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely well.

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Speaker 1: I gotta say, Jason, you're just throwing me lobs with

739
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Speaker 1: the transitions here because you mentioned em Beat on the

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick podcast Old Man in the Three that is

741
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Speaker 1: where our next sound bite comes from. And you've been

742
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Speaker 1: critical of em beats tendency to go out and sort

743
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Speaker 1: of hunt fouls in an unnatural fashion. And he actually

744
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,040
Speaker 1: spoke out on that because j J kind of called

745
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Speaker 1: him out about it for a second. So let's take

746
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Speaker 1: a listen. This is a great example of what I

747
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Speaker 1: like to call a foul baby. That's not far baby.

748
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Speaker 1: This is what we talk about here, But you play basketball.

749
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Speaker 1: This is basketball like you. All right, I'm in a

750
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Speaker 1: penalty and why before that play? I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it was before that play or the play after. I

752
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Speaker 1: just knew that. You know, they had a couple of

753
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Speaker 1: files and it's easy like that's this is basketball like you.

754
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: So people are always saying flops so you know, fa

755
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:30,920
Speaker 1: bathing and all that stuff. That's just me based smart

756
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: and then everybody else. So what do you think, Jason,

757
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Speaker 1: do you agree with mbid a k A the NBA

758
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,799
Speaker 1: player you would least like to be slapped by. So,

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Speaker 1: first of all, I loved the way that JJ went

760
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,879
Speaker 1: at him in that podcast. There was another clip at

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Speaker 1: the very end, like right as he's signing up, he's like, oh,

762
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: by the way, when you're working out with Drew Handlon,

763
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: what do you say, like how often do you work

764
00:38:54,680 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: on foul baiting? Like fifty of the time, like seventy

765
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Speaker 1: percent of the time, and he's like kind of rubbing

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Speaker 1: into his face. I loved it because you you know,

767
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: Joel's right, He's right, it's an intelligence thing. It's a

768
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,200
Speaker 1: basketball like you thing. Um, the guys like Chris Paul,

769
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Speaker 1: the guys like James Harden, the guys like Joel Embid

770
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Speaker 1: in the league. I I admire them taking advantage of

771
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 1: the rules. When I am mad about foul grift, NG,

772
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,840
Speaker 1: it's more towards the league, Like, for instance, at the

773
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: beginning of the season, they did such a great job

774
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Speaker 1: legislating it out, but then the refs just kind of

775
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,719
Speaker 1: all drifted back into their old selves as the season progressed,

776
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Speaker 1: and I put the pressure on the league to deal

777
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: with this problem. So when like, if foul grifting is

778
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: not a Joel emb problem, it's an NBA problem. However,

779
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Speaker 1: I don't think it's smart to build that into your

780
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: game in such a way that is so reliable, because

781
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: we know the league is attacking it. Like you literally

782
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 1: saw this entire offseason. It was a big story. I

783
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: would venture to guess that within five years, that will

784
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,400
Speaker 1: be a huge taboo thing in the league, the idea

785
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 1: of doing anything that's not a usual basket ball play

786
00:40:01,000 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: to try to score. So it's like, you know, it's

787
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, like when I was in high school,

788
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: I could get away with not studying, but then I

789
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Speaker 1: got to college and the material became more complicated and

790
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:14,880
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, something that I had been reliant

791
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Speaker 1: on was no longer reliable. That's kind of the way

792
00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: I look at it. Like if I was James Harden,

793
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Speaker 1: if I was Joel Embiad, if I was Chris Paul,

794
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Speaker 1: I would be preparing for the fact that this will

795
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:27,600
Speaker 1: not be allowed soon. And I wouldn't want to be

796
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Speaker 1: caught with my pants down and be one of the

797
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Speaker 1: guys who's massively struggling. And I pointed this out the

798
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Speaker 1: other day, but it's just it's just the truth of

799
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Speaker 1: the matter. As good as Joel Embiat is, there's another

800
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Speaker 1: bit later in that show where he talks about everyone

801
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 1: says I I would only average seventeen points a game

802
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 1: if I didn't get free throws, and he was like, well,

803
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 1: that's part of the game, yeah, but it might not

804
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Speaker 1: be one day, That's my point, And like, like you

805
00:40:50,239 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 1: might have to be more reliable putting the ball in

806
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Speaker 1: the basket. And right now you shoot like in the

807
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Speaker 1: high forties from the field, and Janice is shooting in

808
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Speaker 1: the high fifties, and Nikola Yoka to shooting in the

809
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 1: high fifties, and Katie and Lebron are doing it with

810
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: you know, they're they're just more efficient at putting the

811
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Speaker 1: ball in the basket. So you don't want to be

812
00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 1: caught behind in that regard. So yeah, not not Joel

813
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Speaker 1: Embiat's fault, but he needs to read the writing on

814
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Speaker 1: the wall. Yeah, And to your point, I mean his

815
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Speaker 1: first times, first two times in the postseason, I think

816
00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: his free throw attempts were down significantly. Another guy who

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Speaker 1: people would sort of classify, probably in a similar conversation, Harden,

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Speaker 1: I think his postseason career averages like at least a

819
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Speaker 1: free throw fewer than regular season. So obviously, as that

820
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Speaker 1: dynamic changes, like you said, you've got to be able

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Speaker 1: to actually just put the ball into the basket. So alright,

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Speaker 1: that is it for That's what he said. Just to

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Speaker 1: provide an update on the game that I mentioned when

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Speaker 1: I came on, Bowls won in double overtime. Damar had

825
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Speaker 1: fifty so another signature performance from him. In what let

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Speaker 1: me check that real quick? He said he had forty

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Speaker 1: something in regular ation, right DeRos and had forty four

828
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Speaker 1: during overtime PG had twenty two PG at twenty two

829
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Speaker 1: did he shoot? Well, what do you shoot from three?

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Speaker 1: He shot? Let's see, because I was I was blown

831
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Speaker 1: away that he shot six for nine from three after

832
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Speaker 1: stepping away from the game for as long as he did,

833
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,120
Speaker 1: missing a ligament in his shooting arm, Like it just

834
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Speaker 1: doesn't make any sense to me. And when you get

835
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Speaker 1: away from the game of basketball and you're like you're

836
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Speaker 1: adapting to the speed, like your jumper is the first

837
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Speaker 1: thing that goes. So I was so impressed. So did

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Speaker 1: he not play well tonight? Tonight? He did not. He

839
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Speaker 1: was seven of twenty two of nine from deep, so

840
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Speaker 1: the shot was not quite there. Okay, all right, Carson,

841
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Speaker 1: I appreciate you man. We're gonna see you in just

842
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, right, all right. So, um, what

843
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,960
Speaker 1: happened with Paul George tonight was a little more in

844
00:42:55,080 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: line with what I was expecting him kind of building

845
00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,240
Speaker 1: his rhythm back. But so the Clippers, the Clippers present

846
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:07,040
Speaker 1: a really really interesting question mark or what if coming

847
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Speaker 1: up over the course of the next couple of weeks,

848
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Speaker 1: because I'm so flabbergasted as to why Paul George, missing

849
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Speaker 1: a ligament in his shooting elbow would not get surgery

850
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Speaker 1: so that he could be available to work out all

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Speaker 1: off season to be prepared for next season. With Kauai

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Speaker 1: coming back, it just is it's beyond nonsensical. You would

853
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 1: assume that at some point he's gonna have to get surgery.

854
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: It's not like Paul George wants to finish his career

855
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: missing a ligament, right, I mean, who knows. I don't

856
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 1: know what the internal conversations are, but it was so

857
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 1: strange to me, which got me thinking a lot about this.

858
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: Why would Paul George come back? They're in the playing game,

859
00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,839
Speaker 1: right if they win. Let's say they go to Minnesota

860
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,640
Speaker 1: and win and they get the seven seed, You've got

861
00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,720
Speaker 1: to go on the road to Memphis for a playoff series.

862
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna be like, Memphis is gonna be heavily favored

863
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:10,359
Speaker 1: in that series, even with Paul George. And you know,

864
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:13,000
Speaker 1: it's just I didn't see the point. And so what

865
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: I kept wondering is like, what if they know something

866
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: we don't know? And so then out of nowhere we

867
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:22,800
Speaker 1: see the Clippers release a photo of the Clippers boarding

868
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:26,720
Speaker 1: the team plane yesterday and Kawhi Leonards getting on the plane.

869
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,839
Speaker 1: And again, it's so hard to make reads on this

870
00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 1: kind of stuff because Kauai keeps everything so close to

871
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: the chest. His circle. His circle is literally as airtight

872
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: as any professional athlete is, any celebrity that we've seen

873
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,480
Speaker 1: in the modern era, which is insane when you think

874
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 1: about social media and the ease of access to information.

875
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,279
Speaker 1: So we would never know, like if Kauai was gonna

876
00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 1: play tomorrow or if he didn't plan on playing next

877
00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: season at all, we wouldn't know. We would find now

878
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 1: when he put the jersey on. That's the way it

879
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 1: would work, and so it's it's genuinely like an interesting situation.

880
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,839
Speaker 1: So my theory is that the Clippers are looking at

881
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,719
Speaker 1: this situation. They looked at how much they punished Phoenix

882
00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 1: last year. They were really really interesting matchup for Phoenix

883
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: last year. They had a lot of success against them.

884
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: They lost in six games, but there were at least

885
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 1: two games that I can think of in that series

886
00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 1: that could have very easily gone the other way. So

887
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: I think the Clippers are looking at the situation and

888
00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: they're like, we like our chances in the West. The

889
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 1: Memphis is too young, Golden State is having injury issues,

890
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: nobody else in the conference is nearly as talented, and

891
00:45:43,080 --> 00:45:45,839
Speaker 1: we like our chances against Phoenix. And then we get

892
00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,080
Speaker 1: to the finals, who knows what can happen, And I

893
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 1: think that they're having conversations behind the scenes, and I

894
00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: think Kauai has been telling them that he plans on

895
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 1: coming back. That's my theory. Again, I have nothing to

896
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 1: support it, because Kauai is never in a million year

897
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 1: is going to tell us anything. But I like it

898
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:06,239
Speaker 1: as an interesting kind of wrinkle here. I've talked a

899
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: lot over the course of the last couple of years,

900
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:14,759
Speaker 1: especially since especially since Tyler got there, especially after what

901
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: happened against Phoenix last year and then getting to the

902
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: conference finals without Kauai. They they are the best team

903
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: in the league in my opinion, at maximizing talent. They

904
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,280
Speaker 1: have the perfect mix of modern coverages and schemes mixed

905
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: with traditional, reliable ones. They run, drop when they can,

906
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: they switch when they can, they mix coverages up a lot.

907
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: They've even thrown zone in there from time to time.

908
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:43,880
Speaker 1: They're very, very smart basketball team. It's credit to Tyler.

909
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,319
Speaker 1: I talked a lot about this over the course ever

910
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: since the Cleveland situation. But Tyler was rigid when he

911
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: was in Cleveland, and a lot of coaches struggle in

912
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:57,920
Speaker 1: their first coaching gig trying to inflict their personality on

913
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,640
Speaker 1: a team, and he's come to the clip person he's

914
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: become one of the most malleable and open minded and

915
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:06,080
Speaker 1: ahead of the curve type of coaches that we have

916
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: in the league. And here there's I'm really really interested

917
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 1: to see because basically he's taken Reggie Jackson. You know,

918
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: a couple of interesting young players like Terrence man in

919
00:47:17,800 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: a mere coffee, and you know, obviously Zoo Botch is good.

920
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,319
Speaker 1: I did a whole video on Isaiah Hartenstein the other

921
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:25,360
Speaker 1: day and the way that he punished Rudy Gobert for

922
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,080
Speaker 1: helping They've got some interesting young players, but it's a

923
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 1: lot of Reggie Jackson and Marcus Morris and Nick Patum.

924
00:47:32,040 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: It's not a super talented team, and they're just manufacturing

925
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: wins by playing really smart basketball. And this takes me

926
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:41,880
Speaker 1: back to the whole bit that I had about the

927
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: Lakers a while back. When you when you have of

928
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 1: the playoffs as an excuse to shrink your rotation, and

929
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,800
Speaker 1: when you plug massive role superstars back in, it takes everything.

930
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,960
Speaker 1: It takes all of the bad out. So right now,

931
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:04,120
Speaker 1: the Lakers are playing a game against the Jazz and

932
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: they have to fill the normal seventy two minutes that

933
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 1: Lebron and Anthony Davis would play with vastly inferior players.

934
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,279
Speaker 1: So what do you think the product is going to be,

935
00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: especially with that team struggling so much besides and athleticism.

936
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:23,240
Speaker 1: Look at the Clippers. They've been better than the Lakers

937
00:48:23,239 --> 00:48:26,759
Speaker 1: this year, significantly better than the Lakers this year, and

938
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: they've taken thirty six minutes of Paul George and Kauai

939
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:34,319
Speaker 1: and replaced them with inferior players. So plugging those two

940
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 1: guys back into the picture, slotting everybody appropriately, that not

941
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: to mention the fact that they will instantly become the

942
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 1: two best defensive players on the team. It becomes a

943
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: really really interesting dynamic. And that combination of Tyler in

944
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: his ability to maximize talent with proper slotting with a

945
00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:57,640
Speaker 1: shrunken rotation with Kawai and PG back into the fold

946
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 1: instantly makes them a contender. Now how much of a

947
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 1: contender they are depends on a lot of different things.

948
00:49:03,560 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 1: What does quite look like when he gets back, how

949
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: quickly does he get his rhythm? Like I said, he

950
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 1: might not even come back right. But in that scenario

951
00:49:11,600 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: where they do come back, if they can get the

952
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: fit in the field back quickly. This could be a really,

953
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 1: really dangerous team. And as much as this team has

954
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: a clear favorite in Phoenix, and they do, this league

955
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,879
Speaker 1: is very open in a lot of different ways. As

956
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,680
Speaker 1: dominant as Phoenix has been, they don't have the top

957
00:49:29,760 --> 00:49:32,839
Speaker 1: tier superstars. As good as the Bucks have looked as

958
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,080
Speaker 1: of late, I'm still worried about their defense, as good

959
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,560
Speaker 1: as the Nets can be. I'm worried about their defense

960
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 1: and their ability to handle brute force physicality as good

961
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:43,520
Speaker 1: as Golden State can be. I'm worried about their health

962
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,120
Speaker 1: and whether or not Stephan Draymond are gonna look like themselves.

963
00:49:46,400 --> 00:49:48,919
Speaker 1: Philly lost in Detroit tonight. They've got a whole bunch

964
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,839
Speaker 1: of issues of their own. Miami got a big win

965
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: the other last night against Boston, but they're not a

966
00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:57,920
Speaker 1: very They're not a top tier contender. The league is

967
00:49:58,040 --> 00:50:00,920
Speaker 1: very much open as law. As you think you can

968
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:04,960
Speaker 1: beat Phoenix, and all of these teams that have these superstars,

969
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: they all think they can beat Phoenix because they know

970
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:09,879
Speaker 1: that they can if they can at least win the

971
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,439
Speaker 1: top the top heavy stuff, if you can outplay Chris

972
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 1: Paul and if you cannot play Devin Booker. You give

973
00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 1: yourself a chance, and obviously Kauai and Paul George are

974
00:50:17,800 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 1: very capable of that. One thing that would be interesting

975
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 1: is avoiding Phoenix buys you time to get those guys

976
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,040
Speaker 1: back in rhythm. So they're the eighth seed right now.

977
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: They're probably gonna finishes the eighth seed if they can

978
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 1: go into Minnesota and win that playing game and catch

979
00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:41,520
Speaker 1: Memphis instead. With Kawai and Paul George, that buys you

980
00:50:41,600 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: an extra round two two rounds actually to potentially get

981
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: your legs underneath you before you have to deal with

982
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 1: that Phoenix matchup again. No idea what's gonna happen with Kauai,

983
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:56,520
Speaker 1: But he's a very very interesting wrinkle here. And I

984
00:50:56,560 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 1: have a theory that that's the only reason in the

985
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: world that you would bring Paul George back missing a

986
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: ligament to flounder in the playing game. If that makes sense.

987
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: It has to be for something bigger than that. If

988
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,720
Speaker 1: that makes sense. Alright, we're gonna bring my guy Carson

989
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 1: back on for one more game before we get out

990
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:18,680
Speaker 1: of here. Jason, longtime, no see, all right, So this

991
00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: game pretty intuitive concept. I bet you can figure it out.

992
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:24,719
Speaker 1: It's called what's more likely. I'm gonna present you two options.

993
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:27,319
Speaker 1: You tell me which one is more likely. And you

994
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 1: mentioned the Sixers lost in Philly tonight. James Harden was

995
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: a sparkling four of fifteen from the field. So given that,

996
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: given the perennial drama that surrounds him, what's more likely

997
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,640
Speaker 1: that he signs the MAX in Philly or is on

998
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:48,560
Speaker 1: another team next season? He's gonna be in Philly next

999
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 1: season on the Max. But it's because Darryl Moray thinks

1000
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: much more highly of James harder than we do. So like, uh,

1001
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 1: I I think that it really just comes down to

1002
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: that at I mean, I said after the other the

1003
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,920
Speaker 1: game the other day, when James Harden played really well,

1004
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 1: um that so much was dependent on his ability to

1005
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: get to the basket and I wasn't convinced that he

1006
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: can do that enough. And like in that same show,

1007
00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: I said, we judge players over large sample sizes, not

1008
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:21,280
Speaker 1: over short sample sizes. If you catch Taylor Horton Tucker

1009
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 1: on the right night this year, you think he's a

1010
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: future All Star, but his trade values lower than it's

1011
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:30,359
Speaker 1: ever been. James Harden has been mostly bad this year

1012
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:33,760
Speaker 1: with little flashes of good And how did he respond

1013
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,320
Speaker 1: to one of his best games of the season, losing

1014
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: to the Bucks. The other day he responded by going

1015
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: four for fifteen against the Detroit Pistons. So, like I,

1016
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,480
Speaker 1: I am nowhere nearest high on him. I think signing

1017
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 1: him for a four year whatever the hell that number

1018
00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:50,960
Speaker 1: is gonna be like two hundred forty two hundred fifty

1019
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:53,399
Speaker 1: million dollars, whatever that deal is gonna be. I would

1020
00:52:53,440 --> 00:52:55,759
Speaker 1: stay away from that. With a ten foot poll, it

1021
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:59,520
Speaker 1: is guaranteed to be an albatross at the end. But

1022
00:52:59,640 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 1: Daryl Maury's big thing is like signed the guy, and

1023
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: he already loves James Harden and he believes in his

1024
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,800
Speaker 1: ability to flip contracts if he needs to. I wouldn't

1025
00:53:08,840 --> 00:53:11,240
Speaker 1: do it, but at this point you have to, especially

1026
00:53:11,280 --> 00:53:13,520
Speaker 1: when you factor in everything they just gave up to

1027
00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:18,200
Speaker 1: get him. Well. According to Darryl Maury, the guy that

1028
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,880
Speaker 1: he has is better than Pique Michael Jordan offensively, so

1029
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: I probably does feel pretty good about that. Well. The

1030
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: man who showed Harden and the Sixers up tonight was

1031
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 1: Kate Cunningham. He has been playing really, really well as

1032
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:38,360
Speaker 1: of late and had seven tonight. So what's more likely Jason,

1033
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: that Kate Cunningham or Evan Mobley is a superstar player

1034
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:47,840
Speaker 1: in this league. Oh. I think they're both gonna be.

1035
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: But I think Evan Mobley is definitely a safer excuse me,

1036
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,880
Speaker 1: a safer bet because the thing with Evan Mobley and

1037
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:01,480
Speaker 1: scouts will tell you this, he is consistently struggled with

1038
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,120
Speaker 1: offensive aggression. He's a very naturally giving player. He's very

1039
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:07,880
Speaker 1: much like I just want to be a cog in

1040
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: the system, but his talent vastly supersedes that. I think

1041
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:15,000
Speaker 1: he has the potential to be better than Anthony Davis Um.

1042
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: We'll see, but I think that he's a safer bet

1043
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 1: with his combination of physical tools and the obvious increasing

1044
00:54:23,320 --> 00:54:25,760
Speaker 1: aggression that's going to come from him in the coming years.

1045
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 1: I love Kate Cunningham's game. He kind of reminds me

1046
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: of like a a more natural American version of Luca

1047
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: don che Is in the sense that he's more of

1048
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:38,279
Speaker 1: a traditional small forward build, but he doesn't have the

1049
00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:41,920
Speaker 1: overwhelming athleticism which has forced him to build out the

1050
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 1: details of his skill set. I always talked about with

1051
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,000
Speaker 1: Luca what impresses me the most with him is he

1052
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,799
Speaker 1: gets by people off the dribble by using his He

1053
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:54,799
Speaker 1: sells every part of every move with every part of

1054
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:58,520
Speaker 1: his body and as a result he gets little tiny

1055
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,400
Speaker 1: windows of space and then that's when he uses his

1056
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 1: strength and physicality to get by people. Kate Cunningham is

1057
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: very similar a lot of freak athlete type of players.

1058
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: They don't build out those details because they can go

1059
00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: down the floor and cross over and there by the

1060
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,879
Speaker 1: guy anyway just because they're faster. And I've I've been

1061
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:19,760
Speaker 1: super impressed with kids like very methodical approach to offense.

1062
00:55:19,840 --> 00:55:22,360
Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a superstar too, but I

1063
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: would say that Evan Mobile is certainly more likely to

1064
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,120
Speaker 1: be if that makes sense. Yeah, absolutely, I mean I

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00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:34,960
Speaker 1: think both these guys were I mean exceptional prospects philosophically.

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00:55:35,160 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that it's interesting, do you have

1067
00:55:37,239 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 1: a perspective on a guy like Mobile who did seem

1068
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,320
Speaker 1: to be really high floor because of the freakish defensive versatility,

1069
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 1: all the things that you could already do well offensively,

1070
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:50,719
Speaker 1: Versus in a guy like Kid you have potentially, you know,

1071
00:55:50,800 --> 00:55:53,799
Speaker 1: a complete offensive ceiling razor because of just the kind

1072
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,400
Speaker 1: of dynamic guard that he is. Like, obviously every case

1073
00:55:57,480 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: by case is going to be a little bit different,

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00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,640
Speaker 1: But do you think that one of those two things

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00:56:00,719 --> 00:56:06,840
Speaker 1: is inherently more valuable? So I inherently think that the

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00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: point forward, the big guy who can initiate everything from

1077
00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,400
Speaker 1: the perimeter, is a more valuable player. That's why I

1078
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:16,479
Speaker 1: did a whole bit on this last week involving why

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00:56:16,520 --> 00:56:18,719
Speaker 1: I think Katie and Janie and Lebron are better than

1080
00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: Yo Kitchen Embiid by a big margin. But that said,

1081
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: like Kai doesn't fit that physical, imposing mold like he's

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00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:31,520
Speaker 1: you know, and this it'll be really interesting to see

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00:56:31,560 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 1: if this affects Luca when he starts playing in really

1084
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: high leverage playoff series, like when Luca gets to the

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00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:39,839
Speaker 1: conference finals or Luca gets to the finals, if there

1086
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: is a team that can of start to wear on

1087
00:56:41,600 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: him physically, I'll be really curious. It hasn't happened yet,

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00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:45,440
Speaker 1: and if you if any team could have done it, it

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00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: it would have been the Clippers. But like k D

1090
00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:52,759
Speaker 1: has this incredible frame, and then Janie and Lebron are

1091
00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:57,080
Speaker 1: once in a generation freight train athletes. Kate Cunningham is neither.

1092
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: So I do naturally gravitate towards the archetype of Kate

1093
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: Cunningham in the sense that I look at those guys

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00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:10,239
Speaker 1: as more valuable, But in this specific case, I I

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00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: would lean towards Mobley because I don't think Kid can

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00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 1: get to the same ceiling as a lebron A D

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00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:19,400
Speaker 1: or Janice. I view Kid is a guy that if

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: things really go well for him, he'll be a persistent

1099
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: top ten player in the NBA, But I don't think

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00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:28,800
Speaker 1: he could ever crack the top five, whereas I believe

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00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: Evan Mobile very much could. And another one last note

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00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: on Mobile, he has significantly quicker feat than Anthony Davis,

1103
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 1: which is a huge part of what will eventually guide

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00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: his offensive ceiling, because the big reason why a D

1105
00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:48,479
Speaker 1: can't be honest, the big reason why a D can't

1106
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: initiate from the perimeter, is he actually has a slow

1107
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:54,160
Speaker 1: first step, and so he can beat guys off the

1108
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 1: dribble when they're big plotting centers. But if you put

1109
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,040
Speaker 1: like if you put Chris Middleton on Anthony Davis, like

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00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: Chris is gonna make him shoot over the top, He's

1111
00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:05,720
Speaker 1: gonna slide his feet, you know, But I think Evan

1112
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 1: Mobley has some of that potential to be a perimeter

1113
00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,160
Speaker 1: initiator because he'll be able to make quick moves that

1114
00:58:11,240 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 1: generate more separation because he's quicker in my opinion. All right, Well,

1115
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: as we talk about some of the great young players

1116
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 1: that we have in the league right now, obviously Luca

1117
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:26,080
Speaker 1: is you know, as respected and promising as any. So

1118
00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 1: what's more likely Jason Luca don Chech wins multiple m

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00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:35,600
Speaker 1: vps or no m vps in his career. I I

1120
00:58:35,640 --> 00:58:38,160
Speaker 1: think it's far more likely that gets multiple m vps.

1121
00:58:39,920 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 1: We have not given Luca enough credit for floating a

1122
00:58:42,760 --> 00:58:47,520
Speaker 1: pretty untalented situation, and I think he's aware of these details.

1123
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: In his podcast with J. J. Reddick that he did

1124
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:53,840
Speaker 1: the other day, he directly attributed their recent success to defense,

1125
00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: and it's an interesting indicator of where Luca's headspace is

1126
00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:03,400
Speaker 1: at because there's this year they have a gimmicky defense.

1127
00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:05,280
Speaker 1: I think I think their top ten still if I

1128
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:07,200
Speaker 1: remember correctly. They've slipped a little bit of late, but

1129
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:09,280
Speaker 1: they've been a pretty good defensive team of late. But

1130
00:59:09,320 --> 00:59:12,600
Speaker 1: they do not have defensive personnel, you know, Max and

1131
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland is not a dominant back line defensive player. Dorian

1132
00:59:15,520 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 1: Finney Smith is an excellent defensive wing, but he's pretty

1133
00:59:18,200 --> 00:59:20,000
Speaker 1: much the only guy like that they have on the roster.

1134
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:21,920
Speaker 1: The rest of these guys Spencer did it, did what

1135
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 1: he Jalen Brunson. They're bringing in a lot of lesser

1136
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,880
Speaker 1: defensive players. There is going to be a stretch of

1137
00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: time in Luca's career where he plays five to seven

1138
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 1: years in a row with an elite defense and a

1139
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: great secondary ball handler that can create when he's off

1140
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,080
Speaker 1: the floor. And when that happens, they're gonna win a

1141
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 1: ship ton of games. And I don't see any universe

1142
00:59:42,040 --> 00:59:43,680
Speaker 1: where he doesn't win a couple of m vps. What

1143
00:59:43,720 --> 00:59:47,240
Speaker 1: do you think? Oh? Yeah, I I absolutely agree. I mean,

1144
00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 1: he entered this year as the betting favorite going into

1145
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: year four with the team that like did not have

1146
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 1: contender level personnel, and the raw production is always going

1147
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: to be there. I mean, he's walking nine and nine

1148
01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:02,440
Speaker 1: pretty much, So I completely agree. And he's continued to

1149
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 1: add to and refine his game like year in year out,

1150
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: so I'm totally with you. I'd be shocked if he

1151
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: doesn't win an MVP, all right, Jason, I have one

1152
01:00:11,160 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: I have one last note on Luca really quick. This

1153
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: dude is getting it done right now, almost entirely unnatural

1154
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: ability and feel for the game. There will also be

1155
01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: a stretch for he embraces taking care of his body

1156
01:00:26,440 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 1: and he embraces a hard work out of it. He

1157
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: literally said it the J. J. Reddy podcast that he

1158
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: did a step back randomly in a EuroLeague game and

1159
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: the coaches were like, you should do that more often.

1160
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 1: It's not like this dude was practicing it. So my

1161
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,320
Speaker 1: thing is is like, there will be a phase of

1162
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:43,960
Speaker 1: his career, probably late twenties, early thirties, where he kind

1163
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 1: of has all those details figured out, and that's when

1164
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:50,600
Speaker 1: it could get really ridiculous with that guy. Yeah. No,

1165
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:55,320
Speaker 1: that is a terrifying concept because I mean, like you said,

1166
01:00:55,320 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 1: he's already among the best players of his age we

1167
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 1: have ever seen, has been for the last a few years.

1168
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: All Right, Jason, what's more likely that the Brooklyn Nets

1169
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: win the Eastern Conference or that they lose in the

1170
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: first round of the playoffs. Oh, this is a really

1171
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:19,320
Speaker 1: tough one because I am picking Brooklyn to win the East,

1172
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 1: but their series is in the first round. If they

1173
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:30,600
Speaker 1: faced Milwaukee or um Boston. I think it's a six

1174
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: or seven game series, which could go either way. So

1175
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:35,919
Speaker 1: like that's literally what I think is gonna happen. They're

1176
01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:38,080
Speaker 1: either gonna lose in the first round or they're gonna

1177
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:42,040
Speaker 1: win the whole damn thing. So I would say, oh, man,

1178
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say it's more likely that they win, But

1179
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:51,160
Speaker 1: it's barely over a coin flip, because it's all about matchups.

1180
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 1: Like if they if they catch Miami or Philly in

1181
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 1: the first round, they're gonna cruise through the first round,

1182
01:01:55,720 --> 01:01:57,680
Speaker 1: which buys you an extra two weeks to get Ben

1183
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 1: Simmons back. Potentially, Ben Simmons is a supernatural fit to

1184
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:03,640
Speaker 1: just plug in there because they don't need him to

1185
01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 1: do anything other than defend and to make reads out

1186
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 1: of a short roll or maybe out of the dunker spot. Right,

1187
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 1: So like it's they any Like if they get a

1188
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 1: good draw and they get bought a lot of extra time,

1189
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 1: that could be devastating for the rest of the league

1190
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: because they'll be really clicking by the time they get

1191
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:21,240
Speaker 1: to a Milwaukee or to a Boston. But then they

1192
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:23,520
Speaker 1: could catch Milwaukee in the first round not have Ben

1193
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:26,520
Speaker 1: Simmons not have some of their defensive details work out

1194
01:02:26,560 --> 01:02:28,680
Speaker 1: and the losing So I could see it going both ways,

1195
01:02:28,680 --> 01:02:33,280
Speaker 1: but I'd leaned towards them winning all right, last one

1196
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: here and unquestionably, unquestionably the most important. Star Wars has

1197
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 1: announced that it's moving the release state of Obi Wan

1198
01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: Kenobi to May. Is it more likely that the show

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01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:49,480
Speaker 1: is excellent or terrible? Wait? They moved it back and

1200
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,080
Speaker 1: within the same way it was supposed to be early May, right,

1201
01:02:52,120 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 1: so they moved in just a couple of weeks. Yes,

1202
01:02:55,000 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: that's really strange. Oh man, um So, I I expect

1203
01:03:02,800 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: to enjoy it no matter what, but anytime you hear

1204
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 1: reshoots or delays, that's scary. And this is a really

1205
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 1: weird timeline they're working in. Them trying to do this

1206
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:18,960
Speaker 1: series directly goes against some core plot points in Star Wars,

1207
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,400
Speaker 1: and so from that standpoint, like, I expect to be

1208
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: frustrated a lot during it, and reshoot scare me. I

1209
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:29,000
Speaker 1: expect to enjoy it, but I don't expect to like

1210
01:03:29,160 --> 01:03:31,920
Speaker 1: appreciate its place in the Star Wars story. And I

1211
01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 1: love that you asked me a Star Wars question, Thank you, Carson. Yeah,

1212
01:03:35,000 --> 01:03:36,640
Speaker 1: of course, man, I gotta get you right in your bag.

1213
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:40,480
Speaker 1: And it's actually even weirder. They moved two days, but

1214
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:45,000
Speaker 1: they're doing the first two episodes at once, so huh.

1215
01:03:45,640 --> 01:03:49,240
Speaker 1: Who knows what's going on? That could be as simple

1216
01:03:49,440 --> 01:03:52,400
Speaker 1: as them thinking that the cliffhanger at the end of

1217
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:56,000
Speaker 1: episode one isn't good enough, or that this episode two

1218
01:03:56,080 --> 01:03:58,240
Speaker 1: will be the one that really captures the audience. Like,

1219
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: here's the thing. It's like with you guys when it

1220
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,920
Speaker 1: comes to production stuff, I'm leaning entirely up. I know

1221
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 1: the basketball, that's my bread and butter. I leave the

1222
01:04:07,120 --> 01:04:09,840
Speaker 1: production stuff to you guys. The people promoting this show

1223
01:04:09,880 --> 01:04:12,600
Speaker 1: know exactly what they're doing, and I will trust them

1224
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 1: to figure it out. As a Star Wars fan, I

1225
01:04:14,600 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: have to enjoy it. I'm just gonna say I don't

1226
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 1: appreciate the fact that they're gonna step on their own

1227
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: plot lines there they There's been a lot of disrespecting

1228
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: George Lucas done by Disney, but that's a whole other story.

1229
01:04:24,840 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 1: You did get in the Hollywood mindset there for a second, though,

1230
01:04:27,080 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 1: because I think this is pretty good rationalization that you

1231
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 1: gave up why they would have made that move, So

1232
01:04:31,800 --> 01:04:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, don't sell yourself short. All right, well, thank

1233
01:04:36,840 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: you Carson. I appreciate you coming on man. All right, guys,

1234
01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: that is all we have for tonight. I sincerely appreciate

1235
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:44,320
Speaker 1: you guys coming to hang out. We will be back

1236
01:04:44,360 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: tomorrow after the final buzzer of Lakers Pelicans. I'm extraordinarily excited.

1237
01:04:49,840 --> 01:04:52,040
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see some good Laker basketball and

1238
01:04:52,080 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: a little flash in the pain of greatness from those guys.

1239
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 1: I appreciate you guys support as always, and I will

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01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 1: see you tomorrow night. The Volume