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Speaker 1: Your tunes about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 1: home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Good afternoon, Stealer Nation. It's the Drive on the Steelers

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Speaker 2: Audio Network. Wesheoler of Matt Williamson with you here on

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Speaker 2: a Wednesday where there is more moving and shaking across

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Speaker 2: the National Football League. Here in western Pennsylvania, the Senior

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Speaker 2: Bawl is underway. Free agencies right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Watching sediable practices yesterday got me a little repped up

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Speaker 3: for the draft.

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Speaker 2: It weird, the weird world of Matt Williams.

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Speaker 3: There haven't been there in a long time, but watching

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Speaker 3: practices and reading the reports and stuff fits draft season.

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Speaker 2: I'm psyched it is, and I'm I'm the same way

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Speaker 2: with all this. I get it's one of those you wait,

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Speaker 2: you do, like the hurry up and wait thing for

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Speaker 2: so long and then it's there and it's like whoa after.

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Speaker 3: A while, It's like boys draft season a long time.

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Speaker 2: I was just gonna say, by the time we get

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Speaker 2: to April, we're like, oh, can we please just get

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Speaker 2: to the draft? Kill and police, just get to the draft.

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Speaker 2: By the time you and I leave the combine at

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Speaker 2: the end of February, we'll be like, I'm ready for

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Speaker 2: free agency. I'm ready to just you know, something, something

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Speaker 2: a little different here. But it is an exciting time

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Speaker 2: of the year. The coaching carousel is ongoing. Super Bowls

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Speaker 2: about ten days away, the Draft in April, free agency

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Speaker 2: in March, the Combine in about a month. It's all

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Speaker 2: going on here, and Matt, we are going to continue

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Speaker 2: to hires obviously still exactly and let's start there as

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Speaker 2: we always do. And I think there's significant news in

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Speaker 2: the AFC North as Todd Munkin has been hired as

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Speaker 2: the next head coach of the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I'm a monk and fan as a schemer, and

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Speaker 3: strangely he got fired his offensive coordinator there not that

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Speaker 3: long ago. I was really good in Georgia, has a

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Speaker 3: pretty extensive college career. But he really did some great

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Speaker 3: things with the Ravens. I mean they were humming a

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Speaker 3: year ago, that first year with Henry.

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Speaker 2: And when Harbaugh got fired, you.

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Speaker 3: It sounded like Harbaugh was on the table for monk.

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Speaker 2: Monkey part of the riff there, if you will. You

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Speaker 2: were very much like he should be in Monkins corner.

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Speaker 3: Look, Yeah, he's really good what he's done, and he's

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Speaker 3: really he progressed Lamar too, as more of a pocket

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Speaker 3: pass or more traditional stuff. I mean, and Lamar has

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Speaker 3: something to do with it as well. I don't know

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Speaker 3: what kind of head coach he is, and I know

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Speaker 3: it's not the most desirable job out there, but I

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Speaker 3: think if you're the Browns, you're about as happy as

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Speaker 3: you could be all things considered. Now, the other side

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Speaker 3: of that is, I don't know that now you're keeping Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: In fact, it sounds like according to the Mary Kay

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Speaker 2: Cabots and the people you know in Cleveland, it sounds

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Speaker 2: like he has told everyone Cyanora, so.

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Speaker 3: You're probably worse. I mean, wouldn't you really have rather

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Speaker 3: have Schwartz as your decordinator and the current Atlanta head

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Speaker 3: coach as your O coordinator? I mean, you know what

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Speaker 3: I mean? That's that's you know one two co which

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Speaker 3: is of the year. I understand that they haven't been

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Speaker 3: good and changes maybe good for just for change, But

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Speaker 3: is Mankin going to be better at his job? Then?

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Speaker 3: Why can't I remember last year? Is Mankin better than Sefanski?

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Speaker 3: I think if anything, they're equal. Sure is the next

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Speaker 3: coordinator better than Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: Probably not, probably not, you know, or at least certainly

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Speaker 2: not as accomplished as Jim Schwartz. And with a recent

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Speaker 2: the recent hands on track record, I mean you and

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Speaker 2: I have referenomenal Yeah, many you look at it. It's

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Speaker 2: like every year Cleveland has a top five, top ten defense,

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Speaker 2: but a a thirtieth ranked offense or a twenty ninth

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Speaker 3: And I'm sure their off season will be about offensive acquisitions.

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Speaker 3: It better be or their nuts, you know. But they

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Speaker 3: don't have any cap space. But they have a ton

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Speaker 3: of picks.

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Speaker 2: Yes, good picks, Yes they do. And so that's the

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Speaker 2: latest from Cleveland. Monking In is the head coach. All

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Speaker 2: the reports that Jim Schwartz told everyone I'm leaving, said

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Speaker 2: his goodbyes to you.

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Speaker 3: Know, the people, the people at that point, the people.

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Speaker 2: In the organization, and then that, I mean, that leads

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Speaker 3: Real quickly on those I find it interesting though, that

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Speaker 3: Monkin and Schwartz game planned against each other directly twice

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Speaker 3: a year for a couple of years in the North. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Monk and be like schemed him every time, or yeah,

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Speaker 3: I know that for him, or maybe he thinks he's

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Speaker 3: a great coach in the world. I don't know. But

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Speaker 3: they know each other well. They do as adversaries they do.

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Speaker 2: And and listen, if you know anything about Jim Schwartz.

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Speaker 2: There's always been some reports that there's some ego there.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying that's unfounded.

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Speaker 3: Or anything like that, but not alone in the coaching world, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, like you mentioned this with who was it, I

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Speaker 2: think it was Brian Dable. He's just he's known being

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Speaker 2: a little prickly. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, some people. We

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Speaker 2: all have people like that in our in our families

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Speaker 2: and our workplaces. It doesn't mean that you're a bad person.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't mean that you're bad at your job. You're

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Speaker 2: just maybe not as chummy as friendly as some others.

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Speaker 3: Of course, and he's really good at his job.

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Speaker 2: He's very good at his job. And you remember, I

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Speaker 2: think I knows it. I was in Phillip The three

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Speaker 2: were the years that Jim Schwartz was there under Doug Peterson,

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Speaker 2: when they won that Super Bowl, and it was a

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Speaker 2: similar kind of reputation for Jim Schwartz in Philly. He's

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Speaker 2: great ad his job, but he's a little prickly. He

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Speaker 2: could be a little difficult to work with at times.

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Speaker 3: It's on people.

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Speaker 2: It's his way or the highway. He's one of those

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Speaker 2: coaches where it's like, if if I want a B

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Speaker 2: You know, if I want red, white and blue paint,

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Speaker 2: don't give me any green paint. You know, I'm not

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna work with it. I'm not gonna do it.

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Speaker 3: OK.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm sure all those things factored into just

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Speaker 2: what we know now is that it sounds like Jim

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Speaker 2: Schwartz is available. And this is obviously something we'll talk

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Speaker 2: about with Chris Halleck here in ten fifteen minutes. But

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Speaker 2: I would I'd be very interested in kicking the tires

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Speaker 2: on Jim Schwartz here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Yes, for sure, because he's a big time defensive coordinator. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: he's If there was a wing those Hall of Fame,

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Speaker 3: he'd be at least in consideration for you know, better

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Speaker 3: defense coordinators generation However, when you said he likes his

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Speaker 3: paint the way he likes his paint.

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Speaker 2: That's a very good point.

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Speaker 3: The Steeler scheme would have to change a lot. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's a wide, nine true, four to three type of thing,

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Speaker 3: single high. It's not exactly what the Steelers are built for.

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Speaker 2: It's not what Mike McCarthy was talking about yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Now, it definitely not.

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Speaker 2: Albeit this news was not out there yesterday.

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Speaker 3: Good point. Good point. So he'll get hired quickly.

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Speaker 2: If if, if he wants a job quickly, he will

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Speaker 2: have a job quickly, because he is, he's one of

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Speaker 2: the most accomplished of his generation and is now available.

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Speaker 3: I assume the Browns have to let him out of

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Speaker 3: the contract though.

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Speaker 2: That's that's kind of what I was wondering too.

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Speaker 3: I bet that there's a little bit of red tape there. Okay,

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Speaker 3: you know some of these guys have I don't think

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Speaker 3: he's been released of his contract yet.

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Speaker 2: Okay, that would make sense that we'll monitor that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: keep an eye on that is Maybe is that rolls along? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: maybe that's some of the teas that need crossed and

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Speaker 2: the eyes that need dotted before this becomes a announced

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Speaker 2: by Cleveland speaking of a similar reports and you know,

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Speaker 2: things starting to clear up, some good news on the

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Speaker 2: Andy Widel front for Steelers for Steelers, So we had

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Speaker 2: mentioned how that's true, and as you mentioned, he's a

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Speaker 2: guy who deserves to be in to be a head

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Speaker 2: guy someday. We would love to keep him here as

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Speaker 2: long as we can, but we also know that he

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Speaker 2: has his reputation, and he has he's getting GM interviews

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Speaker 2: for other teams in the NFL for a reason obviously. Well,

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Speaker 2: according to Jonathan Jones, who is a Falcons reporter in Atlanta,

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Speaker 2: that the Falcons have kind of zeroed in and will

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Speaker 2: have in person interviews with Houston's James Lipfort and Chicago's

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Speaker 2: Ian Cunningham this week on who will be the falcons

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Speaker 2: next GM, and a decision should come Thursday or Friday.

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Speaker 2: So it's not that we've officially heard that Andy Whdel

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Speaker 2: has been ruled out, but it's reported. It's being reported

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Speaker 2: by credible people in Atlanta that these two are the finals,

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Speaker 2: which would make it seem that that Andy Whidel is

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Speaker 3: Well, from a Steeler's perspective, that would be wonderful. I

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Speaker 3: mean I would hate to lose what I assume and

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Speaker 3: is perceived to be and probably is true, your best

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Speaker 3: talent evaluator in the organization, especially in the year where

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Speaker 3: there's a lot of people to be in with and

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Speaker 3: you're looking at talent a little different than you did,

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Speaker 3: you know, I mean, so losing him would have bothered

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Speaker 3: me for sure. Assuming we're correct on that and he

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Speaker 3: will be back next year, that's good news for Steeler fans,

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Speaker 3: no doubt.

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Speaker 2: There is never a good time to lose somebody like

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Speaker 2: Andy Widel from the organization. But not but this would

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Speaker 2: be the worst time. It's like, yeah, not to get to.

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Speaker 3: You need a wartime CONCIERTI not to get.

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Speaker 2: Fancy word there. We had a big debate before the

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Speaker 2: show started today on the correct way to pronounce Kilbosa.

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Speaker 2: What's the correct way to pronounce Conti? Do you have

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Speaker 2: to put it certain alliteration on it? This is like

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Speaker 2: there's never a good time for somebody in your family

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Speaker 2: to pass away, you know what I mean, But like

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Speaker 2: there's there's worse times for somebody in your family to

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Speaker 2: pass away, or something like that too.

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Speaker 3: I told my parents don't die on Draft Day.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't gonna be that blunt with it, but there

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Speaker 2: you go.

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Speaker 3: From the one family. Even before I did this for

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Speaker 3: a living, I'm like, love you guys, but I'm busy

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Speaker 3: on draft day, so it's it is funny agency You're

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Speaker 3: pretty easy, dude.

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Speaker 2: When friends or family asked me about vacations and trips

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Speaker 2: during training camp, or when people tell me they're getting

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Speaker 2: married on the weekend in the fall, of course, I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I won't be there. The only way to know this

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Speaker 2: about me, even I say this to my friends and

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Speaker 2: my family all the time, the only way I will

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Speaker 2: ever have a day or two off during that time

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Speaker 2: period is if somebody in my family dies.

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Speaker 3: That's it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. And Draft day,

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Speaker 3: I'm probably busy.

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Speaker 2: Sorry, Mom, Cold cold Blood and Matt.

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Speaker 3: William strictly business.

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Speaker 2: There's never a good time to lose somebody like Andy Whidel, No,

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Speaker 2: there's not. But this would be down low on the

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Speaker 2: list of times that you would you would you know,

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Speaker 2: want to see him.

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Speaker 3: Leave, And I assume that they know this day's coming,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for taking the time as always, partner, and let's

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Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks for.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, my initial reaction was I wanted to see possibly

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Speaker 3: It's definitely different. And you mentioned he is an offensive

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Speaker 2: there from Mike McCarthy on bringing his former quarterback back

435
00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:19,800
Speaker 2: for a second year in Pittsburgh. I guess, Chris, I

436
00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,479
Speaker 2: don't know, Like if I posed it to you this

437
00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:24,440
Speaker 2: way and we are still way, I mean, is it's

438
00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,880
Speaker 2: the end of January here, We're still a few weeks

439
00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: away from free agency, still a couple months away from

440
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:31,760
Speaker 2: the draft, all that stuff. But if I had to

441
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 2: say to you, you know, September, when the Steelers season begins,

442
00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:40,760
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers or door number two, who's starting under center

443
00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

444
00:21:42,760 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: If I were a betting man, like right now here

445
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,160
Speaker 4: we are in January twenty eighth, I would say Aaron

446
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 4: Rodgers is the starting quarterback. That being said, we don't

447
00:21:53,440 --> 00:21:56,960
Speaker 4: know where Aaron's head is. We don't know if he's

448
00:21:57,040 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 4: just like, you know what I'm done. I've accomplished everything

449
00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:05,680
Speaker 4: I'm going to accomplish. The chances of winning a Super

450
00:22:05,760 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 4: Bowl is slammer whatever. I don't know. I'm not going

451
00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:13,119
Speaker 4: to speak for Aaron, but we don't know what he's thinking.

452
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:18,560
Speaker 4: I don't think you're completely forfeiting on the quarterback position.

453
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,160
Speaker 4: If Aaron Rodgers is your quarterback in twenty twenty six,

454
00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:25,440
Speaker 4: omar con I asked him yesterday in the press conference,

455
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:30,159
Speaker 4: you know you know if McCarthy's experience of working with

456
00:22:30,240 --> 00:22:34,520
Speaker 4: quarterbacks played a role in this hire, and he said

457
00:22:34,520 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 4: that was a part of the conversation that had with

458
00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:41,640
Speaker 4: every candidate. And I believe that that remains the one

459
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 4: of the primary goals for Omar, and now Mike McCarthy

460
00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 4: is finding that long term, that long term answer at

461
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 4: quarterback Rogers is not that now that you can still

462
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 4: get that guy. It could be Will Howard, who was

463
00:22:57,359 --> 00:23:01,960
Speaker 4: brought up unsolicitously by both McCarthy and Omar in the

464
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 4: press conference yesterday. So it could be Will Howard, and

465
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 4: it could be another year of him learning. But maybe

466
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 4: this year instead of being the very distant number three,

467
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,520
Speaker 4: maybe he's elevated too. He's the backup and if Rogers

468
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,120
Speaker 4: can't go, then Will Howard's the guy that goes in.

469
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:21,160
Speaker 4: Maybe it's something along those lines, or maybe just maybe

470
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,040
Speaker 4: they find something else throughout this draft process. They might

471
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 4: really like Garrett Nussmeyer and Nussmeyer family had some ties

472
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 4: to McCarthy. They might really like the tantalizing tools of

473
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,919
Speaker 4: Drew Aller, seeing that six foot five frame and cannon

474
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 4: for an arm, and McCarthy might see that and meet

475
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 4: with him and be like, you know what, I feel

476
00:23:42,880 --> 00:23:45,720
Speaker 4: like I could develop that or whatever. I'm just throwing

477
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 4: like two names out there. There will be a long

478
00:23:50,200 --> 00:23:54,600
Speaker 4: term option and might not be decided this offseason, but

479
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,879
Speaker 4: when it comes to the future of the position, I

480
00:23:56,920 --> 00:23:59,280
Speaker 4: believe that that is very very much on their mind,

481
00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:01,680
Speaker 4: whether or not here Rogers the quarterback in twenty six.

482
00:24:02,359 --> 00:24:04,360
Speaker 3: I was gonna ask something very similar to what West did,

483
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,720
Speaker 3: so I kind of want to expand on what you're

484
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:10,440
Speaker 3: just saying, and like Nussmer and aller aside, I mean,

485
00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 3: if hypothetically the Steelers go into camp with Rogers Rudolph

486
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:22,840
Speaker 3: Howard and they spend a lot of resources on wide receiver,

487
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 3: another defensive tackle of note, kick some draft picks to

488
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:32,920
Speaker 3: next year sign a free agent receiver. Would you approve

489
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 3: and understand that, especially if you're sitting there with a

490
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 3: lot of resources for the twenty twenty seven draft.

491
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, listen, you don't have to get your

492
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 4: quarterback like a disc offseason, like a disk draft. You

493
00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 4: don't have to You don't have to get because it's

494
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:53,240
Speaker 4: not a great quarterback class. It's Fernanda Mendoza and then

495
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:54,200
Speaker 4: everybody else.

496
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 3: I want the right quarterback. I don't necessarily want the

497
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 3: newest one, you know, the most And.

498
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: As far as I know from my conversations with people

499
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 4: on the inside, the way it's been put to me

500
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 4: is we're not gonna Kenny ticket this thing again, Like

501
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:12,680
Speaker 4: it's not going to be at first like, hey, we're

502
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 4: in the first round. We're just gonna take the best

503
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,200
Speaker 4: quarterback available. Like it's the next time the Steelers take

504
00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:22,040
Speaker 4: a quarterback in the first round, it's going to be

505
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 4: a guy that they believe is their next franchise quarterback.

506
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:29,040
Speaker 4: Now again, you can still like drafted developed if you

507
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 4: get to the third round. And I'm not even gonna

508
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 4: name a name. I'm saying, a quarterback is there that

509
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 4: you're really interested in, that you really feel I can

510
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 4: become part of this quarterback room and can be developed.

511
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 4: You can begin the development plan in twenty twenty six

512
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 4: and by all means, take your swing to see what

513
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:51,280
Speaker 4: you can get out of that guy. I have no

514
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 4: problem trying to find answers in more ways than just hey,

515
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,399
Speaker 4: we have to draft the guy in the first round.

516
00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:00,399
Speaker 4: Not every Hall of Fame quarterback was drafted in the

517
00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 4: top ten of the draft or top twenty of the draft,

518
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 4: so you can find your answers. But yeah, like what

519
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,919
Speaker 4: you're talking about, if it doesn't work out there, just

520
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 4: like the way the draft falls or what you learned

521
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 4: from the quarterback class, you don't have to take a

522
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 4: quarterback this year if it were a quarterback rich class,

523
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 4: and by all means, do what you need to do

524
00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:20,719
Speaker 4: to get up there and to get one of those guys.

525
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:22,639
Speaker 4: But if not that that kind of a class, so

526
00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 4: you don't have to force it either.

527
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 3: I wouldn't be super psyched to like trade a draft

528
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 3: pick for Mac Jones or Kyler Murray or one of

529
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,640
Speaker 3: those type of moves.

530
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 4: It depends on the draft pick. I would not think

531
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 4: that they're going to trade a Day two pick for

532
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 4: Mac Jones or Kyler Murray. I'd be really surprised, at

533
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 4: least with Mac Jones. I mean he's really really inexpensive.

534
00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 4: That's not the case of Kyler Murray, so contract wise, yeah, yeah, yeah.

535
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 4: So and then you're talking about giving a Day two pick.

536
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,159
Speaker 4: I don't think that would be the move. But you know,

537
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 4: you never know. When you're trying to find a quarterback,

538
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 4: you'll do some different things.

539
00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,680
Speaker 2: And yeah, we all know that's the case, certainly, the

540
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 2: quarterback is the straw that stirs the drink. If you

541
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: have one, you never talk about it, you know, in

542
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,960
Speaker 2: terms of a need and the draft and free agency.

543
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,439
Speaker 2: If you don't have one, it's pretty much all you

544
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: talk about at times. And we've seen both sides of

545
00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,479
Speaker 2: that equation in the Ben Roethlisberger and now the post

546
00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:27,199
Speaker 2: Big Ben era. But what's kind of next on the

547
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,399
Speaker 2: docket for you after that? Chris? Is it wide receivers?

548
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 2: We know he Mike McCarthy and his offense is like

549
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,399
Speaker 2: the living three wide. You only have three on the

550
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,000
Speaker 2: roster right now. You're going to need real reinforcements. There

551
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: is that kind of the first area that you look

552
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 2: at to attack with your draft capital, with free agency.

553
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: Is it maybe something on the defense? Are you trying

554
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,639
Speaker 2: to supplement that offensive line that feels like it's really

555
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 2: close to being one of the best units in the league.

556
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 2: We all know quarterbacks number one, But if you were,

557
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 2: if you were Mike McCarthy, what's the second position room

558
00:27:57,560 --> 00:27:58,560
Speaker 2: that you're trying to attack.

559
00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 4: It's got to be wide receiver. I don't I don't

560
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 4: know how it can't be. It's just it's a position

561
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 4: that they like, I understand the league is is evolving

562
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,440
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it has its trends, and it's

563
00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,160
Speaker 4: trending more toward larger personnel and running the football again,

564
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 4: but you still have to have wide receivers. Yeah, it's

565
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,840
Speaker 4: it's a it's a you either have to have one

566
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 4: freak receiver like Seattle has a JSN, or you have

567
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:35,639
Speaker 4: to have like two like alpha types like if.

568
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:36,080
Speaker 3: It was.

569
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 4: Right, but but it could be you know, a situation

570
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 4: like Cincinnati as with Jamar Chase and c Higgins those

571
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:47,760
Speaker 4: that that's not the only team that has that type

572
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 4: of a situation. But yeah, you've got to And even

573
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 4: when when McCarthy, you look at his his history in

574
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 4: Green Bay, you know they had great Jennings, Jordy Nelson.

575
00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 4: You know, like you, they've always had more than just

576
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,959
Speaker 4: one really good receiver. You got to have more than

577
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 4: one receiver and guys who can strike some fear into

578
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,960
Speaker 4: the guy that's lining up across from them. And even

579
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:14,080
Speaker 4: McCarthy talked about you know, when you are in those situations,

580
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 4: you want your you want your number one receiver to

581
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 4: be better than their number one quarterback. You want your

582
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 4: number two receiver to be better than their second corner.

583
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 4: You want your third receiver to be better than their

584
00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 4: third corner. You know, Steelers don't have that. They haven't

585
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:33,719
Speaker 4: had that. So yeah, for me, I'm not saying that

586
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:38,239
Speaker 4: they should ever draft per position, but I don't know

587
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,400
Speaker 4: how wide receiver is not atop the list in the

588
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,840
Speaker 4: first round, especially when you look at some of the names,

589
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: some of the talent that's there, it's there for the taking,

590
00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 4: and even if you have to trade up to go

591
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 4: get it, like it's there for the taking. There are

592
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 4: some really intriguing receivers in this draft.

593
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:56,680
Speaker 3: There are Chris, correct me if this sounds crazy to you.

594
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 3: If Wes would have asked me that exact same question

595
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 3: that he just asked you you, I might have answered

596
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: it by saying, need number two and need number three

597
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:07,640
Speaker 3: or wide receiver.

598
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 4: No, I see what you're saying. Like I don't. I

599
00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 4: don't think it's like, hey, we're gonna get our get

600
00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:17,320
Speaker 4: ourselves a receiver in the first round. That we're done.

601
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: I think to add three total, so I want to

602
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 3: legit investments.

603
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 4: I would like to see I like, I mean, I

604
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 4: think ideally because.

605
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: You have living three wide you know, right, Yeah.

606
00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, if you're gonna live in three wide, if you're

607
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,719
Speaker 4: gonna live in live in eleven personnel.

608
00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: I got to go in a high pick and then

609
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 3: maybe eleve pick.

610
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you gotta go get one in free agency. Doesn't

611
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,480
Speaker 4: have to be number one where you're paying them thirty

612
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,520
Speaker 4: million in the year or anything like that. But it's

613
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:51,520
Speaker 4: got to be an impactful guy. We're not talking.

614
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 3: Romeo Dobbs would be fine for that role to.

615
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: Me, something like that. Yeah, yeah, you get a Romeo Dobbs.

616
00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 4: You get a guy who has has proven he can win,

617
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,360
Speaker 4: uh that he can win in coverage, whether it be Man,

618
00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 4: Arizona or both. But then yeah, you still also go

619
00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,800
Speaker 4: into the draft. You get yourself a guy who who

620
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 4: can you get yourself an outpha, you get yourself a dog.

621
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,840
Speaker 4: You know, That's what That's what I think he's got

622
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,960
Speaker 4: to do. I think if if they were to do that,

623
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 4: absolutely absolutely make it.

624
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,160
Speaker 3: Make it.

625
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 4: Make it a true position of strengths because it has

626
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 4: not been one for a while.

627
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 3: Because again, you might have a first round quarterback next

628
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 3: year falling into that nest, and boy, that'd be nice.

629
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 4: Yeah you want to I think you've put it.

630
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 3: You put it that.

631
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:37,680
Speaker 4: Way a number of times. You want whenever you get

632
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: that franchise quarterback, whether he is currently on the roster

633
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: and in the midst of development, whether you draft that

634
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 4: guy this year and he did has pat of the

635
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 4: year or two to develop, or whether you draft that

636
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,160
Speaker 4: guy in the first round in twenty twenty seven, you

637
00:31:52,200 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 4: want that quarterback to be in the best position possible

638
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 4: whenever he is handed the keys to the car. You know,

639
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,360
Speaker 4: you want to make sure that when he has handed

640
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: the keys to the car, are the engines primed?

641
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 3: Uh? That that the other thing, Chris Aaron Rodgers could

642
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,040
Speaker 3: potty train the rookie in the meantime, you know, get him,

643
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: get him ready and on the right page.

644
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,080
Speaker 4: You know, yeah, absolutely.

645
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Teach him how to teach him how to how to swim,

646
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 2: or like take the training wheels off. I mean, I

647
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: don't know if we have to go to the potty here,

648
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: mister Williams.

649
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 3: The diapers off is fine for your two.

650
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 2: Training wheels off. Okay, training wheels off. Chris Aleck, great

651
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 2: stuff with him as always DK Pittsburgh Sports, that's TV

652
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Speaker 2: over there.

653
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 3: How happy he'll be when you're past it to the

654
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Speaker 3: diaper state.

655
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Speaker 2: I'm pretty close. Yeah, you know, our youngest is mostly

656
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 2: potty training, still has the occasional accident, but she's doing

657
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 2: really well. So I'm about to kick diapers to the

658
00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 2: curve here pretty soon. Hallick, Thanks buddy for your time,

659
00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 2: great stuff as always, and we'll talk to you soon.

660
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Speaker 4: Thanks for having me, guys, I appreciate it.

661
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: There he goes training, you're fuddy. That stuff that he

662
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 2: talked about with the quarterback and you you guys just

663
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 2: referenced and dropping a quarterback into an ideal nest.

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00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:01,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you know who.

665
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 2: Else talked about that on these airwaves today. I don't

666
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 2: won Benjamin Todd Roethlisberger. Ah, he's pretty good quarterback, future

667
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, two time Super Bowl champion. He was

668
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: on with Max and Rob in the locker room today

669
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: and kind of similar thing. He was like, yeah, if

670
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 2: you if you there's a quarterback you like this year, great,

671
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: He's like, but ideally, he's like, I'd love to add

672
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 2: some wide receivers, maybe one more reinforcement for that offensive line.

673
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 2: And he talked about he was like, look at what

674
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: I had when the Steelers drafted me. He was like, yeah,

675
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,800
Speaker 2: we were great on defense. Everybody. Yeah, He's like, but

676
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 2: I've got Fanica in a solid offensive line in front

677
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,959
Speaker 2: of me, I've got Bettis behind me, I've got Hines

678
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 2: Ward and Antoine Randall ll established talented wide receiver.

679
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 3: And there were games he threw like twelve passes.

680
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 2: And I think there's a lot to be said for

681
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: that when you hear it from a future Hall of

682
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: Fame quarterback about how how much you know, how much

683
00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,840
Speaker 2: that meant to him being dropped into an offense that

684
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,719
Speaker 2: was ready made, just needed the quarterback and they were

685
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 2: able to take off.

686
00:33:57,560 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 3: I mean fresh out of Miami of Ohio too. I

687
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 3: mean he wasn't to Bama or you know what I mean. Correct, Yeah,

688
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 3: a little bit more of a learning current.

689
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: Correct. And so we will actually an hour number two

690
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 2: play that Ben Roethlisberger audio for you before we get

691
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 2: up out of here. You can hear that's directly from Ben.

692
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 2: Good stuff with him with Max and Rob earlier, good

693
00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 2: stuff with Chris Hallick. Just now thanks for his time.

694
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Speaker 2: When we return on the other side, more on coaching

695
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: staff moving and shaking. We'll start to get into some

696
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,720
Speaker 2: more NFL draft talk and some free agency conversation as well.

697
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Speaker 2: It's all on the table today, West Yuler, Matt Williamson,

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Speaker 2: It's the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers

699
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Speaker 2: Audio Network, your two.

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Speaker 1: Weeks about drive on your twenty four to seven home

701
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:49,759
Speaker 1: of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio.

702
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,640
Speaker 2: Rolling along here on the Drive on this Wednesday afternoon

703
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Speaker 2: as we close down the first hour here and Matt

704
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 2: love your term. We're going to continue to use it

705
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:06,000
Speaker 2: throughout these coming weeks as the Steelers fill out Mike

706
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: McCarthy's inaugural coaching staff.

707
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:08,480
Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 2: Wikipedia scouting, we did. We did a little bit of

709
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,560
Speaker 2: that with some of the names that were originally floated yesterday, right,

710
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 2: Lunda Wells, Patrick Graham, some of these guys. But I

711
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:22,279
Speaker 2: know that you in the last twenty four hours or

712
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: maybe twenty two hours since we since we last met here,

713
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,480
Speaker 2: have done a little bit more than some Wikipedia scouting.

714
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 2: I know you talked to some people, particularly in the

715
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,799
Speaker 2: cowboys world. So what do you want to peel back

716
00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 2: the curtain on first here? I know you've got some

717
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 2: more information on Lounda Wells.

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00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, stress, are that one? But real quick, Patrick Graham's

719
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: or Grahams somebody we knew more than just Wikipedia scout.

720
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Speaker 2: Because he's at least the defensive course. He's not a

721
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 2: position coach, he's court exactly.

722
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, but I do I do want to say. People

723
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 3: will be like, you're interested in the Raiders defensive coordinator. There,

724
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 3: they're football players were terrible besides Max Crosby.

725
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 2: I mean, I think you always have to evaluate the situation.

726
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: Yes, Like if I was a Raiders GM, I might

727
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 3: look at their defense. We need nine new starters, like,

728
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 3: I mean.

729
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Really do A lot A lot of my cynical buddies

730
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,320
Speaker 2: are like, I don't understand all the love for Josh Allen.

731
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: I mean, he's never been to a Super Bowl, can't

732
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: get over the top, makes make this mistake in this

733
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 2: playoff game. I'm like, guys, I get what you're saying.

734
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's not perfect, but look.

735
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: At where Mahomes landed and look at where Josh Allen landed. Yeah,

736
00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 2: and look what the bills were before he got there.

737
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,920
Speaker 3: And he gets handed the same deck or not.

738
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 2: Everybody gets handed the same hand. It's that famous. You

739
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: know some people are born on third base and think

740
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 2: they hit a triple Was that? I think that was

741
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 2: Ryan Day talking about Jim Harbaugh a few years ago.

742
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 2: His situation in Las Vegas was certainly not being born

743
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:51,719
Speaker 2: on third base.

744
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: No, but I do think Graham got a lot out

745
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:56,840
Speaker 3: of a little last year and would be a fine hire.

746
00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 3: I know that he's not a super inspired people go

747
00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 3: through the roof type higher. I'd be fine with him

748
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 3: as a defensive coordinator. Back to Wells. Wells is the

749
00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:10,640
Speaker 3: perfect example of not knowing from where we sit all

750
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,160
Speaker 3: the responsibilities of assistant coaches. So from what I understand

751
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 3: after talking to a couple of people, that we're around

752
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 3: the team and are smart. McCarthy's very at least he

753
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,160
Speaker 3: was in Dallas. He's gonna probably let the defensive coordinator

754
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,319
Speaker 3: do his thing, you know, yeah, check with me, but

755
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: the defense is yours. I'm really offensive minded.

756
00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:36,880
Speaker 2: The classic like hires somebody that you trust and let

757
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 2: them do their job exactly. Don't micromanage him.

758
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:44,479
Speaker 3: And he's really quarterback specific. So one of the things

759
00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 3: McCarthy's nod is into, as other head guys is practice

760
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:55,680
Speaker 3: building the practice schedule, you know, like that's a big

761
00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 3: deal that.

762
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 2: Eats up a lot of times.

763
00:37:57,280 --> 00:37:58,760
Speaker 3: A whole script.

764
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:00,759
Speaker 2: If you've ever if you've ever been around it's a

765
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 2: it's a whole I mean they literally have a packet

766
00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 2: every day.

767
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,239
Speaker 3: I've been in that meeting room every day.

768
00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 2: There is where we're starting. Here's what we're doing in

769
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 2: second period, and here's what we're doing in third period,

770
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: and here's how it red six minutes.

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be seven and a half. And sometimes

772
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Speaker 3: the defense coordinator woul yell at the offensive coordinator like,

773
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Speaker 3: I need nine minutes of blitz period you like, I

774
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 3: mean behind the scenes of here's those guys fight, was like,

775
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 3: this is not.

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Speaker 2: You know, there'll be something that you're playing the Ravens,

777
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,400
Speaker 2: There'll be something on the on the period we're simulating

778
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson in this time period.

779
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Speaker 3: You know what I mean, this must red zone. We're

780
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:30,879
Speaker 3: doing this much you know, special teams, et cetera.

781
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 2: It is, it is. It is scripted out like the

782
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: same way a teacher has a lesson plan for the day,

783
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:37,799
Speaker 2: you know, in the classroom type thing.

784
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 3: So again, Wikipedia scouting looking at a tight end coach,

785
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 3: who more or less is usually like the lowest guy

786
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,640
Speaker 3: on the TOTIN poll in the offensive meeting room. The

787
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 3: running back coach and the tight end coach are not

788
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,680
Speaker 3: as revered generally every I mean, there's great type. There's

789
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 3: great running Dick Coke was revered, you know. I mean

790
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,160
Speaker 3: it's not it's a general statement, but O line coach

791
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 3: carries a lot of weight, quarterback coach, he's a ton

792
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 3: of weight receiver coach somewhere in between. If you're a

793
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 3: passing game coordinator or running game coordinator, that's another you know,

794
00:39:07,920 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 3: important dude. So Wikipedia scouting looking at Wells like he

795
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: has not coached long. He's a tight ends coach. Boy,

796
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 3: that'd be a big jump to be offensive coordinator, and

797
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 3: it would. But I guess Wells was doing like almost

798
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 3: he was in charge of all the practice stuff and

799
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 3: really did a lot of stuff for McCarthy in Dallas,

800
00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 3: and a lot of people were like, my doubt. This's

801
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 3: guy that I was talking to is like, I really

802
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,799
Speaker 3: hope you guys don't hire him, because I think one day,

803
00:39:39,239 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: not only is he gonna be a good offensive coordinator,

804
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 3: but he's gonna be a head coach. Like he's got

805
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 3: a really bright interest. You know, you're might be getting

806
00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 3: in on the ground floor on him.

807
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: The people that you know about him don't want to lose,

808
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 2: don't want to lose him.

809
00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, And I guess exactly. Yeah, and I guess

810
00:39:54,040 --> 00:39:57,920
Speaker 3: he's also very valuable behind the scenes prep week for

811
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Speaker 3: the Ravens. He's he's putting together your practice report, maybe

812
00:40:01,719 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 3: even kind of running practice like I mean, that doesn't

813
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 3: mean McCarthy is like taking a nap when practice is

814
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 3: going on. I mean he just isn't as involved with

815
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,440
Speaker 3: There's only so many hours a day, folks. That's what

816
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:12,839
Speaker 3: people don't know unless they've ever been.

817
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,239
Speaker 2: In a building, and you know what, it's one of

818
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Speaker 2: the things that I.

819
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Speaker 3: Don't call common about assistant coaches because I know, I

820
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 3: don't know.

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Speaker 2: It's one of the things I remember. I remember talking

822
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,279
Speaker 2: with Dale about this in the past of just the

823
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 2: differences between Bill Kawer and Mike Tomlin during practices. Sure,

824
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 2: how Bill Cower was much more I don't want to

825
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 2: say hands off because that makes it seem like he's

826
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 2: just sitting in the stands doing nothing.

827
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Speaker 3: There were bunny camps, he wasn't even there, but but

828
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 3: times were different.

829
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Speaker 2: Times were different than too, But just that Mike Tomlin

830
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:44,320
Speaker 2: was involved with every group, every drill, walking around, very pedantic,

831
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Speaker 2: right very hand tailed, hands on, focused, we're coach positions,

832
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: where Cower was kind of more of like a CEO

833
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Speaker 2: and an observer.

834
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Speaker 3: My running back coach is doing his own n thing.

835
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Speaker 3: You know. Tomlin would jump in and be like, try

836
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 3: to put in your hand placement here and things.

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Speaker 2: Like that, and run that back. I want to see

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00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: those two again. Yeah, that's we see that. We would

839
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:03,920
Speaker 2: see that all the time. Oh yeah, he'd be watching.

840
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 2: He'd be watching high Smith and Darnell Washington from the

841
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 2: side and they would go to get back in the

842
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 2: line and he'd be like, you two, run it back.

843
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:10,080
Speaker 2: Do that again.

844
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Speaker 3: But meanwhile, Bear Bryant would be up in the the

845
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 3: top of the you know, up up in the tower.

846
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:18,879
Speaker 3: There'd be a tower for him, you know, and he'd

847
00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 3: sit there with his binoculars or not, I mean, his

848
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 3: own style. You'll win either way. So that was interesting

849
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 3: to me and encouraging is because I always want to

850
00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,840
Speaker 3: make sure I tell people I am Wikipedia scouting on

851
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 3: these assistant guys, because there's there's way more they bring

852
00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 3: to the table, good and bad. Then you're just gonna

853
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:38,240
Speaker 3: see by their resume.

854
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 2: And I think that's that is that should be known.

855
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,120
Speaker 2: But it's also I think when you when you get

856
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: some more intel on these guys, right, that makes it exciting.

857
00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, exactly. I think that's the receiver. Coach is

858
00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 3: big on blocking good.

859
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 2: Kind of stuff that you want to that's the kind

860
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,520
Speaker 2: of stuff that you want to hear. And so if

861
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 2: he's a guy who has spent a lot of time time,

862
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: as Mike McCarthy labeled it yesterday, grinding it out, Yeah,

863
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:07,719
Speaker 2: he's he's put together the practice reports, he's gone over

864
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 2: all the details, all the x's and o's, all the

865
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 2: t's in the eyes that need crossed and dotted.

866
00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 3: Some of that's minutia too. So it's not real fun.

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Speaker 2: That is not real fun. It can be. It can

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Speaker 2: be a labor certainly, But if he's handled all that

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00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: so well from McCarthy in the past, why not have

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Speaker 2: him be the one who can You need new fresh

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Speaker 2: ideas on that staff, but you also need people who

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Speaker 2: speak your same language.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, and I hope they're not all same people

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00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: to his old staff totally, you know, right, But those

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00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,719
Speaker 3: staff put together a lot of points in a lot

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Speaker 3: of yards too.

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Speaker 2: They do.

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Speaker 3: They do.

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Speaker 2: You want some people with new ideas, fresh ideas, different concepts,

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00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: but you also want some people who speak your same language.

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Speaker 2: It can help you can help you preach the gospel

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Speaker 2: to the to the whole roster.

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Speaker 3: And you know, the guy I talked to you also said,

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Speaker 3: you're you're definitely going to have an improved offense schematically,

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Speaker 3: You're gonna have modern day is not the right word,

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00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 3: but like you're gonna have a buttoned up professional offense,

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00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: you know, and it near the top of the league level.

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00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:15,000
Speaker 3: You know, in terms of play calling, play sequencing, that's

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Speaker 3: not a term people use. Enough play sequence after this,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna run this or that type of thing, detail

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00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,279
Speaker 3: all that type of thing will be at one of

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Speaker 3: the highest levels in the league. So I thought that

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Speaker 3: was really encouraging.

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Speaker 2: Too, Matt. We have some significant news here across the timeline.

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Speaker 2: Per Jerry Dulak, Mike McCarthy is reportedly close to hiring

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Speaker 2: Patrick Graham as his as his defensive coordinator. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: that's I think.

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Speaker 3: Say did a year or two together. I only looked

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Speaker 3: at it super briefly. Wikipedia scouted Graham. I think they

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00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 3: were together with the Packers for a season maybe two.

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Speaker 3: But I get it, I absolutely get it. I do

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Speaker 3: need to do a little more homework on what scheme

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Speaker 3: that means, you know, like what's his preferred scheme he runs.

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Speaker 3: I'll take a look at that for sure.

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Speaker 2: We'll follow up on that a little bit more tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, hour in the books, another hour to go. We'll

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Speaker 2: get into plenty here in hour number two. I want

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Speaker 2: to talk some senior ball stuff with Matt. He was

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Speaker 2: tangling just watching those practices yesterday. We also are going

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Speaker 2: to hear what Ben Roethlisberger had to say about Mike

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Speaker 2: McCarthy about how the Steelers should approach trying to find

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Speaker 2: their next franchise quarterback. We'll hear what number seven discussed

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Speaker 2: with Max Starks and Rob King in the locker room

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Speaker 2: this morning in our number two so plenty to get

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Speaker 2: to halfway home on the Drive West Shuuler Matt Williamson

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Speaker 2: on Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network