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Speaker 1: You're listening to Dracking Network.

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Speaker 2: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 2: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 1: I can't get enough of him. Let's hear that both front.

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Speaker 4: Big job there, Cryptuffy at crackers out rock up Sucker.

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Speaker 3: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved.

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Speaker 2: Here are your hosts, John Nick and Kenny Florian. That's all.

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Speaker 4: Sort of interested in doing the show with a puffy

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Speaker 4: at my ankles right now, that's something new. Hopefully the

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Speaker 4: dog does not disrupt the program. How's your Monday?

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Speaker 3: Ken?

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Speaker 4: For October sixteen, twenty twenty three. It is episode four

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Speaker 4: forty two The Ank and Floring Podcast presented by DraftKings.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to the Middle East Abu Dhabi, United Arab

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Speaker 4: Emirates wheels up tomorrow. I got a little extra what

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Speaker 4: Electra energy today? Ken Flow pay per view week. How

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Speaker 4: we doing?

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Speaker 5: I could see why man, massive, massive card, even with

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Speaker 5: all the changes.

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Speaker 4: I think it's a phenomenal card.

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Speaker 5: And I don't envy the long flight there, Johnny boy,

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Speaker 5: that that is a long flight, but man, that all

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Speaker 5: kind of goes away when you see all the.

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Speaker 4: Fighters line up on fight nights, So that should be fun.

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Speaker 4: UFC two ninety four Mikashev Versus Volkanovsky two Live on

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Speaker 4: pay per view two pm Eastern start time on ESPN Plus,

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Speaker 4: right in the middle of all your college football.

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Speaker 1: A lot of our.

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Speaker 4: Audience is responding to me as if to say, I'm

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Speaker 4: not watching college football, but yes, a UFC pay per

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Speaker 4: view in the middle of the afternoon. I'm going straight

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Speaker 4: from the Eddie Had Arena to the airport. It's actually

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Speaker 4: a pretty quick trip all things considered, get in late

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Speaker 4: Wednesday night and leave right after the show. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: the only inconvenient truth about it, of course, is is

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Speaker 4: the flight. We're very excited to be there, very excited

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Speaker 4: to get back to Abu Dhabi and those three fights.

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Speaker 4: At the bottom of the pay per view, Maga met

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Speaker 4: Unclelive and Johnny Walker in a light heavyweight title eliminator,

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Speaker 4: your New Look co main event at middleweight, Kamzat Chimayav

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Speaker 4: trying to stay undefeated against the decorated former UFC welterweight

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Speaker 4: champ Kamar Usman, and then eventually all roads lead you

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Speaker 4: to the lightweight championship out and the rematch between Islami

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Speaker 4: Kashev and Alexander Volkowski. We have predictions from Ken full

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Speaker 4: I think like seven of them coming up later in

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Speaker 4: the week. Very excited about that the greatest bandon weight

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Speaker 4: of all time, Domina Cruz, will join us here coming

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Speaker 4: up in less than an hour. He was on the

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Speaker 4: call for Sadik usaf and Eds and Barboza at the

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Speaker 4: UFC Apex just a couple of days ago. And of

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Speaker 4: course Ray Longo coming up bottom of the of the

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Speaker 4: hour four his weekly Ray long omitted. Also want to

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Speaker 4: let you know, as of today, Monday, October sixteenth, John

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Speaker 4: Anick dot com is now live all of the new

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Speaker 4: well I shouldn't say all, but most of the new

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Speaker 4: to John Anick dot com. Very proud to launch this

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Speaker 4: website as a vehicle for this show. All of Kenny

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Speaker 4: Florian's websites can be accessed there as well. And I

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Speaker 4: do need to acknowledge my dear sister in law, Amanda

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Speaker 4: Anik Small shout out, I guess to my twin brother

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Speaker 4: dutifully putting together this website and our store. All of

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Speaker 4: the toys. So very excited about all of that. But

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Speaker 4: we need to get into some mixed martial arts and

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Speaker 4: before we do, recap Eds and Barbosa's resounding win over

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Speaker 4: Sadik yusif I want to talk about the former two

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Speaker 4: time UFC Midaway Champion Israel Adsaanya Atasagnya, the last style

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Speaker 4: This is the former UFC Midaway Champion Israel out Ofsannia.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to take some time to look after myself

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Speaker 4: and I'm not going to fight for a long time.

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Speaker 4: I'm definitely not going to retire because I know me.

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Speaker 4: But if I did, I'm fine. I don't need to

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Speaker 4: therein lies the rub that quote right there, I'm going

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Speaker 4: to heal myself up. You won't see me fight for

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Speaker 4: a long time. Lifestyle change, So that could speak to

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Speaker 4: any number of different things, you know. Certainly, I think

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Speaker 4: Auta Sannia at times has spread himself a little bit thin.

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Speaker 4: Leading up to this fight, he was unveiling the documentary.

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Speaker 4: So we're definitely not getting an immediate rematch between him

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Speaker 5: I think that it's extremely difficult to perform at that

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Speaker 5: You know, you're always doing the interviews, you're traveling around,

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Speaker 4: So I think he's making the right decision here.

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Speaker 5: And I think that when you get away with winning

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Speaker 5: fighting to Sean Strickland, guy, what can he do to me?

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Speaker 4: In terms of Vanasani's legacy overall, Kenny, he did go

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Speaker 5: And when you talk about the striking that he brought

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Speaker 5: what he has done in the octagon has been nothing

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Speaker 4: I think maybe this speaks to like nine months or so.

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Speaker 4: let us give Edson Barboza his flowers. I mean, what

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Speaker 5: This was an amazing achievement by a guy who's been

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Speaker 5: I think this is a massive shift for him mentally spiritually.

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Speaker 4: I got to talk about Jonathan Martinez, Right, whatever you do,

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Speaker 4: don't mess with this kid like in a public place. Right,

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Speaker 4: you think this guy is unassuming? What an absolute killer

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Speaker 5: I mean, everyone fighting someone like Martinez at this standpoint,

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Speaker 4: He wasn't forcing it.

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Speaker 4: This was one of those fights we're gonna find out.

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Speaker 4: I think. I still think we found out that Yanyez.

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Speaker 4: It's still a young man and hopefully he took lightly

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Speaker 4: our pronunciation of the week last week we were really

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Speaker 4: bringing to light his situation. But he did comment on

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Speaker 4: our Anna Florian pod Instagram post that the impetus for

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Speaker 4: him changing his name to the rightful pronunciation from Janez

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Speaker 4: to Yanies is his son, right power to you. I

437
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Speaker 4: felt like there was some sort of family directive, maybe

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Speaker 4: it come from came above, or maybe it was just him.

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Speaker 4: All right, So Adrian Yaniz came in number fourteen of

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Speaker 4: the world, Jonathan Martinez thirteen, and I'm just going to

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Speaker 4: give you some of the names ranked above, Jay matt

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Speaker 4: Ricky Simone, Humar, Narmago, Metow, Pedro, Muno's Domina Cruz who

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Speaker 4: will join us here in about a half an hour,

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Speaker 4: Rob Font Song, you don't Cheeto Vera, Pyodr, Jan Corey,

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Speaker 4: San Haagen, Henry Shudo, May, Rob Dwallash, Willy al Jamain

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Speaker 4: Sterling all chasing Sean O'Malley right, I mean, you don't

447
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Speaker 4: think Jonathan Martinez can match up with Pyotr Jan right?

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Speaker 4: Am I getting ahead of myself? Rob Font? I mean

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Speaker 4: these are great fights. Song. You don't a lot of

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Speaker 4: fights on the table for Jonathan Martinez. And that's why

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Speaker 4: when you win a fight like this right as opposed

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Speaker 4: to losing it all of a sudden, it just opens

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Speaker 4: up the whole division. Whereas for Adrian yan Yez, you

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Speaker 4: know his next fight, Yeah, maybe it'll be against number

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Speaker 4: fifteen or number thirteen, But the amount of pressure that's

456
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Speaker 4: going to be on Adrian in his next fight is

457
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Speaker 4: pretty significant at least in terms of, you know, title

458
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Speaker 4: contention and all of that stuff. All right, Michelle Pudeta

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Speaker 4: is a middleweight and certainly has the power. He knocks

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Speaker 4: out Andre Petrowski. The TKO comes at one oh six

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Speaker 4: kenny of round one. And obviously, Michell Pudeda left a

462
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Speaker 4: five fight winning streak in the welterweight division in large

463
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Speaker 4: part because he couldn't make the weight consistently. This is

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Speaker 4: his new home and pretty and start for the Brazilian.

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Speaker 4: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think it's the right division for him as well.

467
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Speaker 5: He was absolutely massive at welterweight. I think this is

468
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Speaker 5: going to be a division where he can make the

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Speaker 5: weight a lot better and still retain his strength, his energy,

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Speaker 5: and he's going to bring that speed with him as well.

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Speaker 5: And he showed, as you mentioned, that he does have

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Speaker 5: power to knock people out people out at one hundred

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Speaker 5: and eighty five pounds. Petrowski is a big middleweight. He's

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Speaker 5: a big, dude, thick wrestler who was a tough stylistic

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Speaker 5: matchup for him. He just never let it get to

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Speaker 5: that realm, there was no grappling, and Pereira landed a

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Speaker 5: beautiful shot right down the middle that surprised Petrowski. The

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Speaker 5: speed was just the speed advantage was significant, and from there,

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Speaker 5: you know, he heard Petrowski and just took him out

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Speaker 5: on the ground with some good ground pounds. So I'm

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Speaker 5: excited to see what Pereyra has got in store. Man,

482
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Speaker 5: He's got a lot of tools, a lot of weapons offensively,

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Speaker 5: and I think it's a division that isn't so grappling heavy.

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Speaker 5: Liked the Welter right, right, So I think it gives

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Speaker 5: him a better shot at least to make it his

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Speaker 5: way towards the top of that division.

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Speaker 4: And he does have submissions, right, I mean, I think

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Speaker 4: when you talk about the lack of grapplers, maybe you're

489
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Speaker 4: more talking defensively, you know, but he does have a

490
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Speaker 4: lot of different ways to get fighters out of there,

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Speaker 4: plus athlete. To be sure, great frame doesn't always win

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Speaker 4: in the court of public opinion because of some of

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Speaker 4: the antics and maybe the body language, and certainly that

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Speaker 4: lost to Tristan Connelly is something that he's had to

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Speaker 4: distance himself from. But Michelle Parea is a force and

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Speaker 4: he gets it Doune in a big way gets his

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Speaker 4: bonus for his troubles, as did Jonathan Martinez. One other

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Speaker 4: main card note here before we get to Ray Longo,

499
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Speaker 4: So Christian Rodriguez weighed into one hundred and forty pounds

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Speaker 4: for his fight against Cameron Simon, and I felt like

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Speaker 4: it would be burying the lead to say anything else first,

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Speaker 4: but Sea rod is really fun to watch fight. I'm

503
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Speaker 4: also bullish on the South African Cameron Simon. I do

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Speaker 4: think he's going to be a top fifteen fighter at

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Speaker 4: the very least in the future. Christian Rodriguez, in my mind,

506
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Speaker 4: deserved to win this fight and was able to put

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Speaker 4: the weight miss on Friday behind him with the W.

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Speaker 4: I enjoyed the hell out of that fight.

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Speaker 5: I think that it was one of the more technical fights,

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Speaker 5: perhaps the most technical fight of the night.

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Speaker 4: Simon is definitely someone to watch. This kid is game.

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Speaker 4: He's got a lot of great tools. He was in

513
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Speaker 4: that fight.

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Speaker 5: He was staying, you know, he was trying to bring

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Speaker 5: that pressure. He was trying to counter. But Rodriguez, man,

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Speaker 5: he looks like a dude that has been around the

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Speaker 5: block and then something like just fighting like a true

518
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Speaker 5: pro through and through.

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Speaker 4: We need to, of course subtract the fact that he

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Speaker 4: did not make weight for that fight. But man, this

521
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Speaker 4: kid has skills everywhere everywhere, and I.

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Speaker 5: Wish I knew that prior to the Rosas fight, because

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Speaker 5: I think that he's someone that could potentially fight for

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Speaker 5: the belt.

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Speaker 4: I do think he's that good. He's just a slick,

526
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Speaker 4: slick operator everywhere everywhere, just and there was no place.

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Speaker 5: In that fight where he looked uncomfortable or wasn't trying

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Speaker 5: to set something up. I mean even on the ground.

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Speaker 5: If he was on his back, he was winning those exchanges.

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Speaker 5: He was doing more striking, he was attacking, he was

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Speaker 5: the more technical guy. And again he did this against

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Speaker 5: a young and game fighter. And Simon so very bullish

533
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Speaker 5: on Christian Rodriguez. He needs to get his weight in order.

534
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Speaker 5: But this is a kid who knows how to counter,

535
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Speaker 5: he knows how to move forward, he can wrestle, he

536
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Speaker 5: can grapple, he could counter, I mean just everywhere.

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Speaker 4: It's just phenomenal to watch he really is. He really

538
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Speaker 4: is fucking good. And that's why you just hope the

539
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Speaker 4: discipline will be there to actually make thirty five consistently. Yeah,

540
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Speaker 4: but you're absolutely right, and he's in his mid twenties,

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Speaker 4: and now he has wins over two of the finer

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Speaker 4: young prospects in this division in Raul Rosas Junior and

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Speaker 4: Cameron Simon, And some people wonder aloud, oh, why are

544
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Speaker 4: you having these guys fight? It does build history potentially

545
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Speaker 4: if you believe in all three of these athletes, as

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Speaker 4: I do. Christian Rodriguez, Cameron Simon and Rollald Ross Rosas Junior.

547
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Speaker 4: Now they all have some history. I have no doubt

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Speaker 4: Simon will build back up. But yes, here absolutely a problem,

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Speaker 4: and we congratulate him on one of the bigger wins

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Speaker 2: Is now time for the Ray Longo Minutes.

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Speaker 4: I'll get a quins a hole in this fucking such

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Speaker 4: that's a long.

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Speaker 2: Mark the Ray Longo Minute. Sorry, Rayne the John Ennik

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Speaker 3: Hold on one second.

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Speaker 4: It's fucking nuts.

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Speaker 1: Right, he'll be croz.

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Speaker 3: You know what, there's a there's a little bit of

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Speaker 3: an echo, so that might be a delay or what

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Speaker 3: you're saying. Just so just a disclaimer up front.

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Speaker 4: Thank you. We have had a delay for back to

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Speaker 4: back weeks on the Ray Longo Minute. But it is

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Speaker 4: great to see your face, great to be for me

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Speaker 4: on the backside of that commercial spot. Right, it's like

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Speaker 4: my reward for getting through that drafting sportsbook commercial without

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Speaker 4: messing it up too bad. As I get to see

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Speaker 4: Ray longo.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just love listening to your talk, John, So

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Speaker 3: I just am happy you're getting on the happy mood

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Speaker 3: before I get on.

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Speaker 4: It's all well, I love well, that's good. Well, I

608
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Speaker 4: know sometimes my energy can be off putting. But some

609
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Speaker 4: people were introduced to my twin brother for the first

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Speaker 4: time on the Anakmploring podcast last week because we had

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Speaker 4: to retape an episode and he stepped up, and some

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Speaker 4: people are suggesting that he is like me on adderall.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's even like another level up in terms

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Speaker 4: of just the chaos and the crazy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, it's very interesting, interesting take on Jason.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so all right, a lot of things to get

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Speaker 4: into with you today. Uh, let's start with the hip.

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Speaker 4: How we doing, How we're feeling?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, really good, getting better every day starting. I'm starting

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Speaker 3: to really feel good. Yeah. I did work out lest

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Speaker 3: we can push it a little too odd, so I

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Speaker 3: got knocked back on my ass a bit, but I

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Speaker 3: get I get where we're going now. It'll keep you

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Speaker 3: in check for a while, but I feel great.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can't wait to see you next month. Now,

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Speaker 4: what we would like you to do is if you

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Speaker 4: entire podcast audience your scar. Are we able to do

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Speaker 4: that or not? You don't want to do that, all right?

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Speaker 3: I'm well, I'm willing to do that. I don't know

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Speaker 3: if this crowd is willing to accept that. That's uh,

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Speaker 3: you know, might never get out of your head again.

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Speaker 3: That's a good thing. So it all looks great, man,

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Speaker 3: the guy was good haully on the store at all good?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: Look at that cole Brew never far from the lips

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Speaker 4: of very long ago, all right. So I want to

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Speaker 4: get into Edzenborbo's a lot of different things to get into.

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Speaker 4: I know you don't always listen to our show back,

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Speaker 4: and I don't blame you, right, but we're trying to

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Speaker 4: bolts on his chest right. I love Darren Elkins, and

647
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 4: we certainly should celebrate his eighteenth UFC win. What an

648
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 4: absolute fucking warrior. I don't necessarily love the tattoo for

649
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Speaker 4: me or Brian Petrie in terms of like our family gatherings.

650
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Speaker 4: I feel like it's a very loud tattoo, Kenny. It's loud,

651
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 4: so loud and ugly. We're trying to raise fifteen thousand

652
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,840
Speaker 4: dollars because Brian Petrie was asking me on the show

653
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Speaker 4: last week, like what's my number? Like how much money

654
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Speaker 4: do I need to get the damage tattoo all over

655
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Speaker 4: my chest? And you know, regardless of what my number was,

656
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Speaker 4: Brian Petrie and his wife, if we can get them

657
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Speaker 4: fifteen grand, he's going to get this tattoo. And like,

658
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Speaker 4: I don't know how I feel about it, like think

659
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,120
Speaker 4: about his kids and his wife a little bit, but

660
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Speaker 4: like I think we could raise the money. So we've

661
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Speaker 4: raised twenty five hundred dollars. We need twelve thousand, five hundred.

662
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Speaker 4: So I'm just letting you know. We're not asking for

663
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Speaker 4: a contribution, but just letting you.

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Speaker 3: Know, right, Oh, well that's interesting, man. You can't you

665
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Speaker 3: can't rustle up fifteen grand.

666
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Speaker 4: Well, we just started this.

667
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Speaker 3: I believe it.

668
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Speaker 4: Oh, I'm hoping that one of these whales, you know,

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Speaker 4: maybe my tailor Mark Russell can step up. No, I'm

670
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Speaker 4: hoping that somebody. No, if we really push this out

671
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Speaker 4: there on social Media'm pretty confident we can get to

672
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Speaker 4: fifteen thousand dollars, you know, and then there'll be of

673
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Speaker 4: course pressure on the pea tries to make a nice

674
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Speaker 4: T shirts through UFC two ninety four. All right, Edson Barbosa.

681
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Speaker 4: So Kenny masterfully sort of outlined this win for us

682
00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:26,080
Speaker 4: earlier in the show. But it's just amazing to see

683
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: a guy evolve and just have this type of appetite

684
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 4: for for UFC. Gloriate almost thirty eight years of age,

685
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 4: still getting it done against you know, young guys coming

686
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 4: trying to take a spot.

687
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, not just getting it done, but taking an absolute

688
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 3: beating before he gets it done, so he has the

689
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 3: drive and the will still to power through those situations

690
00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 3: where a lot of guys probably would have quit after that.

691
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, what a beating he takes in the first

692
00:33:56,760 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 3: round to come back like that at thirty eight years old.

693
00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,320
Speaker 3: And you could see Kenny it was it was shit

694
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,040
Speaker 3: determination because see he looked sometimes like in slow motion

695
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 3: after the first round, but he was still going forward

696
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: and every so off, do you have a burst? You

697
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 3: could see it. And then listen to him speak after

698
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 3: the fight, I think, you know, you know exactly what

699
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,360
Speaker 3: was going on. He had no idea where he was,

700
00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 3: and then he finally figured out, you know, I'm not

701
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: at my kid's birthday party. I gotta get to get

702
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 3: fighting and sometimes you know, those concussive situations I think

703
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:33,879
Speaker 3: he described to a t. But I mean the heart

704
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,759
Speaker 3: and the mentality and every other attribute you want to

705
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,880
Speaker 3: throw at this guy was. I thought that was unbelievable.

706
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,400
Speaker 3: You couldn't have been happier for a guy just to

707
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 3: go through that adversity against a younger, stronger guy, and

708
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: you know, and to get through that like that, that

709
00:34:50,920 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 3: was sheer experience man, It's just that's that's what being

710
00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: in the game that long and you know, understanding what

711
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 3: you have to do to survive and then go win

712
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:03,280
Speaker 3: after that is I think that's what we saw on display.

713
00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,440
Speaker 3: But I was blown away by that. Man.

714
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Speaker 4: There are so many athletes on this roster that just

715
00:35:11,160 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 4: want to stay in a fight when they're getting beat

716
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:14,720
Speaker 4: the fuck up so badly.

717
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:14,880
Speaker 3: Now.

718
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Speaker 4: I don't know what percentage of fighters are, say looking

719
00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:22,520
Speaker 4: for a way out or okay with you know, just letting,

720
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,640
Speaker 4: you know, covering up in a way that allows the

721
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 4: referee to come in. But a lot of yahees on

722
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 4: this roster just have that desperation and that desire. And Barbosa,

723
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 4: I think, for the most part, has always had it.

724
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Speaker 3: You know.

725
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Speaker 4: I look at the Tony Ferguson fight. You know he's

726
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,080
Speaker 4: always been able to sort of have that desperation and

727
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 4: have that focus. And Ray, I got to imagine, You've

728
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 4: coached all sorts of different athletes and uh not all

729
00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 4: of them have.

730
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Speaker 3: That no defit one hundred percent. And I'll tell you John,

731
00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 3: it starts in the training room. I'm sure he trains

732
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 3: like a monster because it's fights like that that you

733
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,719
Speaker 3: have to know in your head that man, I put

734
00:35:57,760 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 3: in a hard camp I know I could do to

735
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,400
Speaker 3: see me. For the guys that you know, kind of

736
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,840
Speaker 3: rely on their talent a lot, they don't you know,

737
00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: they start drifting on, uh you know, like the cardio

738
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,680
Speaker 3: aspects of the training camp and you know, maneuvering things

739
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: around because you might have an injury or something. Those

740
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,600
Speaker 3: are the guys that don't make it through those times.

741
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,880
Speaker 3: But the guys that train hard, that really enjoy what

742
00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:24,400
Speaker 3: they're doing, uh, you know. And again at the main event,

743
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:29,160
Speaker 3: I'm sure the money you know, wasn't as big as like,

744
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,839
Speaker 3: you know, like a pay per view points fight type

745
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,040
Speaker 3: you know what we're going to see next week. To

746
00:36:34,200 --> 00:36:37,880
Speaker 3: have that drive is I find it fascinating. I really do.

747
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 3: Like One of the things about you know, Volkanowski and

748
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 3: some of these other guys jumping up to take the

749
00:36:43,040 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 3: fight Kenny is you don't know is it money? You know,

750
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 3: they backed the truck up to pay these guys because

751
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 3: they're in a desperate situation. They don't want to lose

752
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 3: the main event. So you know, I'm always thinking is

753
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,440
Speaker 3: he going in for the money? Is you know he

754
00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 3: didn't have a camp you know, what do we really

755
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 3: have here?

756
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

757
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: So like Paul Boza to be in a position like

758
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 3: that way, you know, the money is probably good, but

759
00:37:04,200 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 3: not great. Woo man. I tell you he found a

760
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,400
Speaker 3: way to just dig down deep and just going. You're right,

761
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 3: that comes from experience, Like John says, he's been there before.

762
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: Even he look even his fight, what can be He

763
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,840
Speaker 3: got tortured, but he wasn't quitting and that was a

764
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: that was a morling, you know what I mean. So

765
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 3: he's that guy.

766
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, he really is that guy. And you put all

767
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 4: of that very well. So a few other bullet points

768
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 4: I want to get to on this fight night, and

769
00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,080
Speaker 4: then we'll shift our focus with you to UFC two

770
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 4: ninety four. So I want to bring up the Jonathan

771
00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:40,879
Speaker 4: Martinez Adrian Janiez fight in the context of these leg kicks.

772
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 4: And I know you have a history with Adrian, right,

773
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:47,840
Speaker 4: but preparing athletes for a fighter who has this weapon, like,

774
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 4: what do you do? Because I know there's a lot

775
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,880
Speaker 4: of credit going out to Jonathan Martinez and rightfully so,

776
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 4: but there are people who are critical of Yan Yez

777
00:37:56,360 --> 00:37:58,880
Speaker 4: for not being more prepared for this particular weapon.

778
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: Where are we going with this chef because I really like.

779
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,440
Speaker 4: Well, I'm just curious about the leg kicks because we

780
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:10,319
Speaker 4: have talked about them over the last three or four years, right,

781
00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 4: Benson Henderson and Jim Miller, two guys who I think

782
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,879
Speaker 4: were pioneers a little bit as far as this weapon

783
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 4: is concerned in mixed martial arts. We talked about Jim

784
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,960
Speaker 4: Miller and I think the Nate Diaz fight in like

785
00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:24,879
Speaker 4: twenty twelve, we threw one and his leg didn't recover

786
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: for like three or four months, and so for two

787
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 4: or three years thereafter he didn't throw them anymore. I

788
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,759
Speaker 4: guess I'm just curious, like, if you're preparing may Rob

789
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Speaker 4: Dwallash Willie or al Jamain Sterling for Jonathan Martinez, what

790
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:38,200
Speaker 4: are you doing in terms of the discourse about leg kicks?

791
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Speaker 4: Going in.

792
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Speaker 3: Questions? You know, he was yeah, right, okay, Look, there's

793
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 3: a couple of things. Janis is a striker, so he

794
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,920
Speaker 3: should have been checking the kicks. But that's no picnic

795
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,480
Speaker 3: either right on either side, you know what I mean, Like,

796
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 3: whoever has Mahaldes shit is coming out the winner of that,

797
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 3: and we've seen leg breaks from that mismatch lead so

798
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,840
Speaker 3: that's a dangerous pick to throw as hard as he

799
00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 3: was throwing. Now. I mean, you know, obviously, if you

800
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 3: got the tie boxing mentality, you don't give a shit,

801
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 3: You're just gonna throw it, you know. Obviously the grappling

802
00:39:11,080 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: I think would negate that. But like again, Giannis is

803
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: more of a striker. You could see his hands were

804
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,759
Speaker 3: way better when he was throwing, even when he was compromised.

805
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 3: But yeah, should he have been able to check the

806
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 3: kicks or not been there or take it to the floor,

807
00:39:26,160 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 3: mix it up with the takedown store off set the kicks. Yeah,

808
00:39:29,239 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 3: but I don't think that was his style, and I

809
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 3: think I think he paid for it. The other thing

810
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 3: I want to say too is Giannis is a great kid.

811
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Speaker 3: And when solso Les died, I think he took over

812
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:41,479
Speaker 3: that gym. Like you see him a lot of times,

813
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 3: he's going into the fight, I think with other guys

814
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 3: in the gym or younger guys, and I think, you know,

815
00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 3: he probably needs a general now to focus him in

816
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,640
Speaker 3: because he's a super talented kid. And I think he's

817
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,000
Speaker 3: and this is going back years ago when he came

818
00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,799
Speaker 3: in nine years ago, but a couple of years ago

819
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: he was kind of running the whole gym. Can he

820
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:05,880
Speaker 3: felt that his responsibility to take over FA Saul and

821
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: you know, bring the younger kids up. But I think

822
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Speaker 3: at the level he's fighting at, he needs now to

823
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,719
Speaker 3: separate himself and get somebody to run the gym and

824
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 3: really go do a camp somewhere because he's one hundred

825
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 3: percent has the talent, but he's got a lot on

826
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 3: his plate that kid. That that's my interpretation. I haven't

827
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 3: talked to him, not even sure I know what I'm

828
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: talking about, but based on when I met him, that's

829
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Speaker 3: what I'm feeling. And you know, he and every time

830
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 3: I talk to him, he wants to run that gym,

831
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,839
Speaker 3: and he wants to help everybody out. And when you're

832
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:43,320
Speaker 3: at high level like this, I think that that's my opinion.

833
00:40:43,719 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 3: I could be wrong, but he's such a nice guy

834
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 3: that I and he's a loyal guy that he's gonna

835
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:53,879
Speaker 3: find it probably hard to do, you know, what's best

836
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:55,880
Speaker 3: for him. I think he's trying, he's trying to make

837
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 3: the best out of what he has down there. But

838
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: I think at this level now, he needs to have

839
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 3: somebody he respects and goes into battle with.

840
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Speaker 1: That's just my take on it.

841
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean very difficult to fight at the highest

842
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 4: level and be coaching on the side. You know that

843
00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,720
Speaker 4: that's a lot to deal with. Man, Ray, huge, huge

844
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,280
Speaker 4: fight card this weekend.

845
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 5: Man, we have Kamara Uzman taking out taking on Kamsat Chimaya.

846
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 5: Is he the guy to be able to do it?

847
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 5: What do you think his chances are? You know, he

848
00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 5: comes from that wrestling background. He's not a small welchweight

849
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 5: at all. A lot of people think he might be

850
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 5: matching up against Chimaia better than anybody else.

851
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Speaker 3: Again, here's the thing. I believe what you said is true.

852
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 3: Does he match up good with him in a week's notice?

853
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,320
Speaker 3: Was he trained? Was he compromis? Does he have any injuries?

854
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:52,719
Speaker 3: You know, That's what I'm saying. Like to me, when

855
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: I look at a guy jumping in the last minute,

856
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 3: I hope he was training and nobody knows it, Like

857
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:00,120
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, I hope he was. He

858
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 3: had a camp owing, or he was doing something, because

859
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: if not, I think they'll just entice you with money

860
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,359
Speaker 3: and then you're gonna get not the guy you want

861
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 3: on paper. Kenny, what you said, I would have loved

862
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: to have seen those guys fight with a proper camp.

863
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 3: I would have loved to see Uzban fighting with a

864
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 3: two month camp or a six week camp on a

865
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,200
Speaker 3: week's notice. I think that's a pretty tall task. And

866
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 3: you know how old is Zuzwan now?

867
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 4: Thirty seven, thirty eight, maybe not quite that old.

868
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:31,359
Speaker 3: I'll look that up, yeah, but you have to. That's

869
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 3: what scares me about to fight is the week's notice,

870
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 3: you know, for both guys, and plus Tomorrow's going up

871
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 3: against a big, strong guy. You know, we we've never

872
00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 3: seen him fight at eighty five before, so very interesting. Interesting,

873
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:51,720
Speaker 3: But you know, the way it all went down sometimes

874
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 3: leads me to believe, you know, people going in. I

875
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,120
Speaker 3: hope everybody's going in for the right This is what

876
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,280
Speaker 3: I hope. I hope everybody's going in for the right reason.

877
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 3: And I hope everybody at least is training and they

878
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 3: put you know, they're going into really well prepared.

879
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 4: So thirty six years of age, by the way, So

880
00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,600
Speaker 4: do you think it's.

881
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 5: A bigger deal for Volkanovsky going in for a twenty

882
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,120
Speaker 5: five minute fight than you think for someone like Kamara

883
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:17,879
Speaker 5: Usman fighting a fifteen minute fight.

884
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I look Mike, I like, again,

885
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 3: I don't know anything. Vote looks like the type of

886
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:28,879
Speaker 3: guy that he's always trained. He looks like the type

887
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 3: of guy that's always in the gym to me, so.

888
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:39,200
Speaker 4: You know, like question every day, right, yeah, in fight shape.

889
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:46,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Look, Vote, I think Volte's a different animal man,

890
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: And I think we might see because like what you

891
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 3: just said, with the twenty five minutes, you could see

892
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 3: a vote coming out and trying to finish that. Take

893
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 3: some more, you know, take some risks early to get

894
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:58,840
Speaker 3: him out of that, you know what I mean. I

895
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 3: think they both know each other. They you know, there's

896
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: no supposition the difference Ken he is, there's no surprises

897
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,400
Speaker 3: in that fight. They fought before, you know what I mean.

898
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 3: So I think you could eat another ten minutes out

899
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 3: Uzban and the other guy. You don't know what you're getting.

900
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:14,440
Speaker 3: I mean, you know what you're getting with Usban. We

901
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:16,879
Speaker 3: don't know you know what we're getting with the other guy.

902
00:44:17,120 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 2: Uh.

903
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:19,640
Speaker 3: You know, we've seen him misweight at seventy, but at

904
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: eighty five, he's probably gonna be on weight. And he's

905
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 3: a he's a he's a young beast, and let's uh,

906
00:44:25,480 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 3: I mean, I could see tomorrow's path to beat him.

907
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,719
Speaker 3: I just hope he's in shape and he's uninjured, you

908
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 3: know when he goes in there to be able to

909
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,360
Speaker 3: put up a good fight. But folks, volks are different

910
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 3: animal like again, I think the comfortability. You know, he's

911
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 3: going up and weeight he's got nothing to lose. He's

912
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 3: he's he's a completely pound for pound great at forty five,

913
00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,359
Speaker 3: and there's just it just just doesn't he's gonna win win.

914
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 3: I think, you know, if he loses, he loses to

915
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 3: you know, a guy at fifty five who's the champion.

916
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: If he wins, he's what a great story that is.

917
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 3: So volts in it interesting fight and I think folks,

918
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 3: you know, like when you talk to him, John, he's

919
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 3: just a calm, cool, very calculate. You know, he enjoys it.

920
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 3: He's a different piece, I think, so, I think it's

921
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 3: a little different. But you're right that ten minutes is

922
00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 3: a problem. But they've been there before, so he has

923
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 3: a good grasp on. I think it puts I think

924
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 3: it makes you comfortable, right instead of the unknown.

925
00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Volkanovsky is as mentally fortified at athlete as I

926
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,640
Speaker 4: have come across. He did have an arm surgery though

927
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 4: after his last fight, and he also appeared to have

928
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:38,759
Speaker 4: some sort of cut that needed stitches, right, So it's

929
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:42,800
Speaker 4: not as though you're getting one hundred percent optimal Alexander

930
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 4: Volkanovsky and then a matchup that maybe lends itself to

931
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 4: him having his cardio be as good as it could

932
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 4: possibly be. Maybe he is giving up a little bit

933
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,920
Speaker 4: there in terms of what he has to lose. You

934
00:45:53,000 --> 00:45:54,919
Speaker 4: could certainly argue he's not going to get another shot

935
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:57,840
Speaker 4: at the lightweight championship with Islama Kashev as the champion

936
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: if he is able to lose, if he loses this fight,

937
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,480
Speaker 4: and heaven forbid in one sided fashion. So I think

938
00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:06,000
Speaker 4: it's a little bit tired to suggest he has nothing

939
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,479
Speaker 4: to lose, But I do feel like he wouldn't step

940
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 4: in if he was not prepared in terms of what race. Oh,

941
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 4: we do still have Ray. We just lost your picture,

942
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,560
Speaker 4: but you're still there audio wise.

943
00:46:16,680 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 3: Oh I got hold on a second, I got it.

944
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:22,279
Speaker 4: It's episode four hundred and forty two. Thank you, nice, Yeah,

945
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 4: yeah yeah.

946
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 3: John. Let me just say I think focus. I think

947
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 3: Volcu is that guy. My point is, when you get

948
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 3: these last minute matchups it's always you know, because I've

949
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 3: been involved in a couple of them. You know, the

950
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 3: guys he's been training, But it's going to be a

951
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 3: little different and right for the guys that are mentally strong,

952
00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 3: like I think, like a Volkanowski. I think that he

953
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 3: finds a way to do it. I don't think it's

954
00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 3: a problem. And the fact that he's fought before and

955
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 3: he knows the terrain that way, I think helps him

956
00:46:49,040 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 3: out too.

957
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 4: So yeah, I don't know from a betting perspective, you

958
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,560
Speaker 4: can get Volkanovsky right now north of plus two hundred.

959
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 4: Perhaps he would be closer to plus one point fifty

960
00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 4: in the competitive nature of the first fight if he

961
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,440
Speaker 4: did have what amounted to a full training camp. But

962
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,400
Speaker 4: it's going to be very interesting, and you know, I

963
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 4: think Islam Kashev deserves credit as well, right, can we

964
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 4: please not forgetout it down? Ask defend his title for

965
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:17,600
Speaker 4: the first time in Australia against Alexander Volkanovsky went and

966
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 4: did that. I thought maybe he won four of those

967
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:23,040
Speaker 4: five rounds, right, and now he's fighting him on short

968
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:25,080
Speaker 4: notice as well. You know, Volk's getting all the credit,

969
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 4: but habit a modicum of credit Islama Kashev and for

970
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,239
Speaker 4: Hamsat Chimayev, except in kamar Usman when he was training

971
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: for Pallo Costa Ray, I do want to circle back

972
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,440
Speaker 4: to something you said about doing things for the right reasons.

973
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 4: So kamar Usman is thirty six years of age, so

974
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 4: a little bit younger than I thought. He'll be thirty

975
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 4: seven in May. He's not on a path right now

976
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 4: to get his welterweight title back, even though he's the

977
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 4: number one contender, because of the two head to head

978
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:53,240
Speaker 4: losses to Leon Edwards. I suppose if Kolby Covington wins

979
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 4: later this year, perhaps that changes things in a positive

980
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 4: way for kamara Usman. But it's a three round fight, right,

981
00:47:59,600 --> 00:48:01,320
Speaker 4: it's up at eighty five, doesn't have to cut a

982
00:48:01,360 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 4: lot of weight. And I think because he's not the

983
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:07,440
Speaker 4: type of athlete that ever really lets himself go, I

984
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:10,719
Speaker 4: think he's pretty confident going to Abu Dhabi. Right, he

985
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:13,080
Speaker 4: stepped up on short notice and fought mos feed All

986
00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:14,799
Speaker 4: in Abu Dhabi when it was supposed to be someone

987
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,520
Speaker 4: else or a different date. Right, So right, there was

988
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 4: this story about him putting the bud light down, right,

989
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,919
Speaker 4: So he does have experience not just fighting in Abu Dhabi,

990
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,120
Speaker 4: but stepping up on short notice. And I do think

991
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,480
Speaker 4: he's going to have a lot of mental confidence just

992
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:29,280
Speaker 4: in the fact that he can go hard for fifteen

993
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,239
Speaker 4: and it ain't twenty five.

994
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,640
Speaker 3: Listen, man, the guy first of who's one's he's he's

995
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:38,640
Speaker 3: a stud I'm just doing for enough stuff to you know,

996
00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 3: for conversation, he's a one hundred percent of studies. He's

997
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,840
Speaker 3: got a great team behind him. It's just, you know,

998
00:48:43,960 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 3: a week's notice for a championship fight, man, that's a

999
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 3: that's a big ask. That's a big ask, man. That's

1000
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 3: why I say that's the interesting part. These will be

1001
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 3: two huge upstts for me, just based on jumping in

1002
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 3: there and taking that fight. Like yeah, if you got

1003
00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,719
Speaker 3: the confid and you're that much better. I mean, but

1004
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 3: these guys are going up against everybody. Look the four

1005
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 3: of these guys. Look, the two proven guys out of

1006
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:15,840
Speaker 3: the four of Vulcan really proving. I mean Vulcan tomorrow.

1007
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:18,879
Speaker 3: Islam's right there too at this point. But the other

1008
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:21,120
Speaker 3: guy has proven, but he hasn't been around that long.

1009
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 3: And you know, Cardio could be a problem. I think

1010
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 3: we saw him fading in the Burns fight a little bit.

1011
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,760
Speaker 3: Kenny No towards the end, and I think.

1012
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 4: Huld I absolutely agree with that.

1013
00:49:34,239 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's the that's the issue. But that

1014
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,400
Speaker 3: was at seventy, you know, like did he drain himself

1015
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:45,000
Speaker 3: and that that was responsible for that? So uh, yeah,

1016
00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:45,600
Speaker 3: you want to.

1017
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 4: See Tom's out at eighty five and not seventy, Right,

1018
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:53,359
Speaker 4: we don't know this. Yeah, I was gonna say, I'm

1019
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 4: with you, John.

1020
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:57,520
Speaker 5: I have a hard time believing that both of these

1021
00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 5: guys are taking these fights without thinking that they're in

1022
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:03,400
Speaker 5: a good position to win it.

1023
00:50:04,160 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 4: These are big fights for these guys.

1024
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 5: You have Uzman, who could potentially fight for the belt

1025
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: at one hundred and eighty five pounds. He has been

1026
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:15,560
Speaker 5: a professional. In my experience, this guy's training quite often.

1027
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,040
Speaker 5: I don't think he kind of gets off the couch

1028
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,160
Speaker 5: and goes, hey give me this spot or the UFC

1029
00:50:20,200 --> 00:50:21,239
Speaker 5: would even give him the spot.

1030
00:50:21,239 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 4: At this stage of the game.

1031
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,440
Speaker 5: I think he's been training, probably not for something like

1032
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:28,800
Speaker 5: a fight this close on the horizon, but I do

1033
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 5: think he's training and he understands the matchup that's in

1034
00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:34,080
Speaker 5: front of him, and he believes that he can win

1035
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,840
Speaker 5: this fight. I think the same goes for Volkanovski, and

1036
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 5: I think they it could be easy to kind of

1037
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,800
Speaker 5: underestimate these guys because of that reason. But for guys

1038
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,320
Speaker 5: like Volkanovski, Uzman champions, former champion, they're professionals. Man, I

1039
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 5: think they're going to have a lot more than people expect.

1040
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 5: Not ideal, but I think in a lot of ways

1041
00:50:55,400 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 5: it can be an advantage because you're not beaten down

1042
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 5: at the end of camp, you still have that hunger,

1043
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 5: that freshness, and if you feel like you're in a

1044
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 5: good shape and can get in great shape. But over

1045
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:13,360
Speaker 5: the next course like ten days or so, Hey, who knows, Man, it's.

1046
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,399
Speaker 3: All yeah, go ahead, John.

1047
00:51:16,760 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 4: I was just going to say, there's a lot of

1048
00:51:17,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 4: times Lar Usman are exceedingly close, and I just feel

1049
00:51:22,080 --> 00:51:24,720
Speaker 4: like when Sean Strickland won that title in September, Usman

1050
00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,160
Speaker 4: probably inner monologue wise, was just thinking, I have a

1051
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 4: head to head win over Sean Strickland. I'm going to

1052
00:51:30,680 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 4: get in shape. There's a possibility here that I could

1053
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:34,920
Speaker 4: step up on short notice in a big spot and

1054
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 4: become the Middleway champion. It's not at the rum of

1055
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:38,359
Speaker 4: possibility right the floor is yours?

1056
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,200
Speaker 3: Na, Yeah, I mean for rule. I mean, but you know,

1057
00:51:41,320 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 3: like again, it's all good, I think, but as you

1058
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:46,240
Speaker 3: get older, like your brain is going to think exactly

1059
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 3: what you're saying, but your body might not agree with you.

1060
00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,319
Speaker 3: Not that they're that old, but you have to put

1061
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 3: in the right training camps. Let me look for because

1062
00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 3: I see, like when I'm training people, you're always working

1063
00:51:55,719 --> 00:51:57,920
Speaker 3: around injuries, and that just gets worse and worse and

1064
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 3: worse is the guy gets older. So uh, you know,

1065
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:05,680
Speaker 3: you know you did we hear Ada Sonja talking like

1066
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 3: you know, he was on the tail end of his career.

1067
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,960
Speaker 3: I thought that guy was looking great. You know they

1068
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 3: hear him talk like that, like I just wanted to

1069
00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 3: make the most out of my last couple of fights.

1070
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 3: That took me by surprise. Am I alone with that?

1071
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,320
Speaker 3: Or did everybody see that coming?

1072
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:21,560
Speaker 1: Well?

1073
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:24,239
Speaker 4: I I guess I would be surprised if he only

1074
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 4: fights two or three more times. But I think that

1075
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:31,600
Speaker 4: there's a lot of reflecting going on right now, and uh,

1076
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,040
Speaker 4: you know, the build up to this fight. While Short

1077
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:38,839
Speaker 4: also had this documentary and a lot of different things

1078
00:52:38,880 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 4: in his life, I just think he's doing a lot

1079
00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 4: of thinking right now. And I'm sure too. When he's

1080
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 4: sitting on the couch, you know, he checks his Bank

1081
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 4: of America's statement, and.

1082
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,359
Speaker 3: That's that's my point. John Volkanowski could check his bank

1083
00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:54,359
Speaker 3: account too, but he's going to jump in there.

1084
00:52:54,440 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 4: But they listen, doesn't look like Atasania's just yet nowation Yeah.

1085
00:53:01,880 --> 00:53:04,240
Speaker 3: No, no, no question about it. But you know, people

1086
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,360
Speaker 3: are happy at different levels of their financial success.

1087
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1088
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:09,440
Speaker 3: You know, look, I don't know the guy, I don't

1089
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 3: know anything like that. But my point is that they're

1090
00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,839
Speaker 3: like for these fights, like look at it this way

1091
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 3: and I get out. I'm letting go of this point.

1092
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 3: I don't know why it hit me in the head

1093
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 3: like that. But uh, like if you were to say

1094
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:24,320
Speaker 3: to Tomorrows, you know, we'll pay you two hundred and

1095
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:28,520
Speaker 3: fifty grand, he's not fighting. I guarantee it doesn't take

1096
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:31,879
Speaker 3: the fade up and coming guy, some up and coming

1097
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: guy for two fifties jumping.

1098
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 4: Right in there.

1099
00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you hit a point in your life

1100
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 3: where you know, things become you know, financial also like

1101
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:42,319
Speaker 3: when you're when you're run your way to your top,

1102
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 3: you don't give a shit what's going on. You just want,

1103
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 3: you know that end price. Then you start thinking and

1104
00:53:48,400 --> 00:53:50,800
Speaker 3: things change a little bit. You get older, you get injuries.

1105
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 3: I got a family, Maybe if I can have two

1106
00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 3: more big payday, I don't know. I think I don't

1107
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 3: know that. I'm just saying the way this came about,

1108
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 3: you're not just offering guy what he thinks he's got.

1109
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 3: You have to offer more money to entice him in there.

1110
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,880
Speaker 3: And is that enticement gonna override where that guy was

1111
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:13,000
Speaker 3: are in his training camp? That's what that's all I'm saying.

1112
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 4: No, it's a fat all.

1113
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, all professional guys, all guys that know how to fight,

1114
00:54:19,600 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 3: and I think when you're staying in shape, yeah, anything

1115
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: is possible. So I'm just my point is, I'm just

1116
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:29,560
Speaker 3: hoping they were rolling camps. He ruled technically not obviously

1117
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,759
Speaker 3: ready for a championship fight, but they would training, they

1118
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 3: were feeling good, and they can make that adjustment on

1119
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 3: a week. I think that's very fair if they were

1120
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 3: a camp. We don't know that though only they know that.

1121
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:40,640
Speaker 3: We don't know to behind the scenes thing.

1122
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 4: For the first time in Kamara Usman's career, he is

1123
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 4: going to be cornered by both Trevor Whitman and Henry Hooft,

1124
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:47,960
Speaker 4: which I think is a little bit interesting, but I

1125
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 4: think you're overriding is well taken. Ray that you know,

1126
00:54:52,120 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 4: Kamara Usman can make fifteen thousand dollars for a Howlerhead appearance.

1127
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 4: It can make seven hundred and fifty thousand dollars to

1128
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 4: show up one night against Kamza Chimayav and might actually

1129
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 4: beat the guy. All right, last thing I wanted to

1130
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,360
Speaker 4: just get to with you, and it's about Kamza Chimaya

1131
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,400
Speaker 4: because we just spent not intentionally a quarter of an

1132
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:10,200
Speaker 4: hour on Kamara Usman. But Kenny, I want your thoughts

1133
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 4: on this as well, because there are certain MMA fighters

1134
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: that when they hit that canvas, there's just something undeniably

1135
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 4: special about that moment in time, that sporting event, whether

1136
00:55:20,239 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 4: there are championship stakes or not. And dating to Kamza

1137
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 4: Chimayev's UFC debut on Flight Island July fifteenth, twenty twenty

1138
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,719
Speaker 4: against John Phillips, I'll never forget it. Of course he

1139
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,840
Speaker 4: fought ten days later. Like if you hook me up,

1140
00:55:34,920 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 4: Kenny to a heart monitor, when Hamza Chimayav hits the octagon,

1141
00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:42,600
Speaker 4: I don't know that any fighter in a non championship setting,

1142
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,839
Speaker 4: I'm trying to put this articulately gives me the type

1143
00:55:45,880 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 4: of special feeling that Hamza Chimayev does. And part of

1144
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,360
Speaker 4: it's because he doesn't compete all that often. Part of

1145
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:55,160
Speaker 4: it's because maybe he's fucking crazy. You know, he's twelve

1146
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: and zero. I just I just really want to see

1147
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:01,439
Speaker 4: this guy at an active competition cycle, and I can't.

1148
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 4: I'm just so thankful that they kept him on the

1149
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,759
Speaker 4: cart and I just can't wait to see what he

1150
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:10,239
Speaker 4: does with another big fight. He's the fucking man. Yeah, absolutely, listen.

1151
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 5: I do think he's got a certain talent or realness

1152
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:15,319
Speaker 5: to him when he does get on the mic.

1153
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,879
Speaker 4: But I think more than anything else, I think we all.

1154
00:56:17,840 --> 00:56:20,399
Speaker 5: Get excited when he's walking out to the cage because

1155
00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:22,880
Speaker 5: we know exactly what we're going to get with Jamaya.

1156
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:26,319
Speaker 5: He is there to fight, he's there to beat your

1157
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 5: face in. He's not in there to kind of do

1158
00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:33,680
Speaker 5: anything other than get you out of there as quickly

1159
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:37,799
Speaker 5: as possible. So he's got that certain electricity of let's

1160
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 5: say Mike Tyson from back in the day, where now

1161
00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:45,040
Speaker 5: there's electricity in the crowd. I mean, I still remember

1162
00:56:45,120 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 5: I get chills when I think about him when he

1163
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,320
Speaker 5: walked out and he sat on the top of the

1164
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: cage just so relaxed, and it's just it's not upfront,

1165
00:56:54,200 --> 00:56:56,440
Speaker 5: He's not him just trying to be something.

1166
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 4: He really is.

1167
00:56:57,320 --> 00:57:01,120
Speaker 5: That dude, he's he's a wild man's wild man loves

1168
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:04,840
Speaker 5: to fight. And I'm really excited about this one I

1169
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 5: got Tuzman. I was very excited about the one against Costa.

1170
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 5: I know this is an ideal timing for someone like

1171
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,480
Speaker 5: a Kamara Uzman, but I think we're going to find

1172
00:57:13,520 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 5: out just how.

1173
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,320
Speaker 4: Good this dude is.

1174
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 5: Because I still I'm not sure, but if he goes

1175
00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 5: out there and starches someone like a Kamara Uzman or

1176
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,760
Speaker 5: has a war of someone like Uzman, of the course

1177
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 5: of fifty myths, it still says a ton about how

1178
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:30,880
Speaker 5: good this individual is.

1179
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:32,240
Speaker 4: So I can't wait. Man.

1180
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree, okay, And I think why you get

1181
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:39,560
Speaker 3: those shows is there is that unpredictability factor, Like you know,

1182
00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,520
Speaker 3: you go back and look at some of Tyson's old

1183
00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,439
Speaker 3: interviews where I just saw an interview with somebody asked

1184
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:48,800
Speaker 3: him a question he didn't like, or he took personal. Dude,

1185
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 3: it was frightening, man, it was scary. Like, that's that's

1186
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 3: what I think you feel. And John said that guy

1187
00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:56,920
Speaker 3: could jump over the cage and grab you by the

1188
00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,440
Speaker 3: neck and it might be a problem. But he's he's

1189
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 3: a loose cannon. Uh, and he fights his balls off,

1190
00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 3: and I think that's what people like. But I think

1191
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:10,080
Speaker 3: that's why you get that there is that little unpredictability,

1192
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 3: you're right, and that you don't know like which way

1193
00:58:12,560 --> 00:58:14,840
Speaker 3: he's going to go and what's going to set him off,

1194
00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. That's the other thing. So uh,

1195
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 3: I think, look, I agree, super super excited for the card,

1196
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 3: super excited for the change ups. Uh. You know, you

1197
00:58:25,320 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 3: got such moretee value in all those names. It's it's

1198
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 3: just that that's the that's the good part to me. Man.

1199
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 3: You want you want to see it, and you want

1200
00:58:33,120 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 3: to see you know, Comza get tested. You know the

1201
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 3: wrestling is this strong point. He's going up against the

1202
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:41,040
Speaker 3: guy that could wrestle. Uh, It's it's just great. Yeah,

1203
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 3: I'm excited as well.

1204
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,240
Speaker 4: And it's two pm your time on a Saturday, right.

1205
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,120
Speaker 4: We got an early pay per view window this weekend.

1206
00:58:47,160 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 4: A little cole Brew for Ray Longo. If you want

1207
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,720
Speaker 4: to follow the man on X, it's at Ray Longo.

1208
00:58:51,880 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 4: MMA find him on his second Instagram page as we're

1209
00:58:56,360 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 4: trying to get Mark Zuckerberg. But the Instagram is at

1210
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:02,120
Speaker 4: Ray Longo mm A ninth five eight Raymond Pleasures all

1211
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:03,040
Speaker 4: on the side of the table.

1212
00:59:04,400 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, I gotta tell you some about the Instagram thing.

1213
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 3: It's not the best business move, but I tell you

1214
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 3: being awful like social media a little less, you know.

1215
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, boy, it's not a bad thing.

1216
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 3: That's all I could say, you know, because some of

1217
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 3: these things I go back to people bring to me

1218
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 3: in the gym, you can't unsea and it's not good.

1219
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: So it's a nice little break, Kenny. If you want

1220
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,720
Speaker 3: to try it, I just might.

1221
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: Hey, have a great day and a better evening. We'll

1222
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:31,439
Speaker 4: talk to you next.

1223
00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: Week, guys.

1224
00:59:32,440 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 3: Right, I take it easy, guys, take it there.

1225
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:36,919
Speaker 4: He is the great Ray Longo with us every week

1226
00:59:37,040 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 4: here on the Anak and Florian Podcast. I would say,

1227
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:44,000
Speaker 4: the only other athlete maybe who gets my heart rate

1228
00:59:44,080 --> 00:59:46,720
Speaker 4: going on that chimaiav level and it's for different reasons,

1229
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 4: is actually our next guest. He is the consensus greatest

1230
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,120
Speaker 4: bandom weight of all time. Fresh off the call of

1231
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,880
Speaker 4: Ed'sen Barboza and Sadik Yusuf, Domina Cruz joins us in

1232
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,040
Speaker 4: advance UFC two ninety four. What's up, Champ? Looking good?

1233
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:03,440
Speaker 4: Is that Moni Rex? What are you wearing today? Always? Oh,

1234
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 4: I can't hear dom Maybe he's on mute? Are you

1235
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:05,920
Speaker 4: on mute? Champ?

1236
01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: You are looking like a boomer right there? I said,

1237
01:00:10,320 --> 01:00:13,800
Speaker 1: isn't isn't annex nice flooring? He always has the nicest

1238
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:15,360
Speaker 1: words he does.

1239
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:17,000
Speaker 4: He's got a lot of nice works.

1240
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:18,920
Speaker 1: Well, thank you.

1241
01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:22,400
Speaker 4: It is Mono x moder Rex. I mispronounced it, but

1242
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,480
Speaker 4: it's great to see when we appreciate a quarter of

1243
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 4: an hour of your time here. So, uh, you were

1244
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,760
Speaker 4: on the call in Las Vegas this weekend. I was

1245
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:33,080
Speaker 4: just sort of talking about haam Zat Chimayeb. When there's

1246
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 4: a UFC championship fight about to happen, right Like, I'm

1247
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 4: so excited as just a UFC fan, whether I'm calling

1248
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:40,960
Speaker 4: the fight or not. But I said, if there's any

1249
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: athlete on the roster that sort of gets my system

1250
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: going in a special way, even when there's not a

1251
01:00:47,080 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 4: title on the line. It's kam Zat Chimayev. I know

1252
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 4: you've been there obviously for some of his biggest wins.

1253
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:54,800
Speaker 4: You called the knockout against Gerald Mershark. I'm just excited

1254
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:56,880
Speaker 4: to fucking go to Abu Dhabi to watch this dude fight.

1255
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 1: Well, there's so much miss mystery around him. I feel like,

1256
01:01:01,200 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 1: right like, there's just there's so much we don't know. One,

1257
01:01:05,200 --> 01:01:07,440
Speaker 1: he's on the other side of the world, and when

1258
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,080
Speaker 1: he comes over here, he's got to hurry up and

1259
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: go back. So that's a that's a big thing in

1260
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:16,560
Speaker 1: itself that sparks the interest of us as humans, Like,

1261
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: we don't know what his world is like separate from fighting.

1262
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,520
Speaker 1: We don't know what his a world is like in fighting. Still,

1263
01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:28,600
Speaker 1: we haven't even seen him completely tested in fighting, so

1264
01:01:28,720 --> 01:01:31,120
Speaker 1: there's so many like he's just a big question mark.

1265
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,280
Speaker 1: I think that's what's what sparks the interest to most.

1266
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,040
Speaker 5: Do you think that's why someone like a Kamara Uzman

1267
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:41,760
Speaker 5: is willing to take this kind of challenge on short notice,

1268
01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,920
Speaker 5: because it's hard to get a read on how good

1269
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 5: he is. We saw a little bit of that against

1270
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 5: Gilbert Burns Fifteen Minute War, but I don't know.

1271
01:01:51,000 --> 01:01:52,760
Speaker 4: Why do you think Guzman's taking this shot.

1272
01:01:53,600 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: Honestly, there's only one reason usman takes this shot, one

1273
01:01:57,240 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 1: reason and one reason only, and we know what it is, Florio.

1274
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 4: He thinks he can win.

1275
01:02:03,040 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: Okay, I don't think that's it. I think it's money.

1276
01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 4: Yeah really okay, Yeah, you know this was interesting because

1277
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:14,520
Speaker 4: this is what I was curious about.

1278
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 5: Is he taking this Is he taking this fight because

1279
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Speaker 5: he thinks it's a great financial opportunity or does he

1280
01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 5: think he's at this point of his career where hey,

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01:02:22,920 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 5: he can make a run at one hundred and eighty

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01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 5: five pounds to become a champion in that division. And

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Speaker 5: now that Atisannia, his buddy is gone.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's both things. I'm not saying he's not confident.

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01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:33,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to like he does believe he can win.

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01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 1: I believe I can be champion. When you're still like

1287
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Speaker 1: right here, whether you're in, if you're in the top ten,

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Speaker 1: I mean, you get a three fight win streak, you

1289
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 1: can get a title shot. Winning three fights is not

1290
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:47,479
Speaker 1: impossible at this level. It's been done. We've got guys

1291
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:49,800
Speaker 1: on six to nine fight win streaks in the UFC,

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01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: right now so very doable. Usman. I think he believes

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Speaker 1: in himself completely. But this is a money thing, Like

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Speaker 1: you don't take this fight, I'm sorry, notice against a

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01:03:01,200 --> 01:03:04,040
Speaker 1: question mark on the other side of the world, unless

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Speaker 1: you're getting something that's like, oh man, I'm worth that

1297
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Speaker 1: to you. That that will like it's easy to get

1298
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:14,520
Speaker 1: respect for a fighter if you pay them what they

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Speaker 1: you know, And I think that usman's getting what he

1300
01:03:17,960 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: deserves to be paid, and so he's going and doing

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 1: his job. I think that's always what it comes down to. Like,

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of times it gets misconstrued that

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01:03:26,480 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: we don't want to fight because we're you know, weak

1304
01:03:30,840 --> 01:03:33,400
Speaker 1: or scared or don't want to put our title on

1305
01:03:33,480 --> 01:03:36,720
Speaker 1: the line or don't want No, we aren't fighting because

1306
01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 1: it's not worth the money you're offering us. Right, It's

1307
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:43,120
Speaker 1: like we're we have a we have a self worth

1308
01:03:43,160 --> 01:03:45,800
Speaker 1: as well. I put my twenty five years of my

1309
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:48,400
Speaker 1: life into this thing to be what everybody wants to

1310
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 1: watch on short notice. And if you're not going to

1311
01:03:52,400 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: offer me a bag, that that proves my worth and

1312
01:03:55,240 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 1: shows me that you respect me and what I can do.

1313
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Speaker 1: I mean, why why wouldn't you you right, you're calling me,

1314
01:04:02,600 --> 01:04:05,480
Speaker 1: and I think that and the UFC did do that

1315
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,160
Speaker 1: for usman, and I think that he said yes because

1316
01:04:08,200 --> 01:04:08,320
Speaker 1: of that.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense. The

1318
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,560
Speaker 4: great dominant time you have to see be bandam Way

1319
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 4: Champion with us here on the Antic Imploring podcast. So

1320
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:21,240
Speaker 4: on your Instagram page, sometimes you feel so compelled seemingly

1321
01:04:22,320 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 4: by a performance that you immediately push out some sort

1322
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,880
Speaker 4: of recap or some sort of content. So it would

1323
01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,200
Speaker 4: seem to me that you were pretty inspired by what

1324
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 4: Edson Barbosa did so last Saturday night, so much so

1325
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 4: that you went back to your house and cranked out

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Speaker 4: some content.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. I usually don't do that. You know, I'm working

1328
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:41,520
Speaker 1: on it. It's always telling me put that stuff out there.

1329
01:04:41,600 --> 01:04:45,439
Speaker 1: So well. I I did it because I was taken

1330
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: back by that fight, to be honest, I got home

1331
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,600
Speaker 1: and you know, sometimes you get home, you know, and

1332
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: if you get down calling these fights and you're just

1333
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,600
Speaker 1: you're wound up. I'm wound up. I'll speak for myself.

1334
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,240
Speaker 1: I get really wound up calling these fights. I'm still

1335
01:04:57,280 --> 01:04:59,480
Speaker 1: an active fighter. A lot of times I've got to

1336
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:04,640
Speaker 1: set all my own like, you know, not a lot

1337
01:05:04,720 --> 01:05:06,720
Speaker 1: of the times every time I go into that job,

1338
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: I got I get to set aside my entire career

1339
01:05:09,240 --> 01:05:12,840
Speaker 1: and put the competitor's career ahead of me. So that

1340
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:16,920
Speaker 1: that alone, just Fike just brings my heart rate up

1341
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:20,280
Speaker 1: to one hundred and fifty beats per minute before the show, right,

1342
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:22,920
Speaker 1: And then you got to add the fact that this

1343
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:25,560
Speaker 1: is an adrenaline filled match going on in front of me.

1344
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,320
Speaker 1: People are killing each other and it's very intense. So

1345
01:05:28,480 --> 01:05:30,880
Speaker 1: all that I get home and I'm just sometimes I

1346
01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:32,800
Speaker 1: got to go run sometimes most of the time, I

1347
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:37,280
Speaker 1: got to go train directly following these shows. And when

1348
01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: it came to this one, I was a little sore

1349
01:05:40,160 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: from the training before, so I had the night off,

1350
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: so I didn't I didn't train, and I talked. And

1351
01:05:46,200 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: when it came to that fight, man, when you were there,

1352
01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,440
Speaker 1: it's different. You know, some people, it's so crazy when

1353
01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,480
Speaker 1: you see like you see online how simple it is

1354
01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 1: for people to put a comment like, ah, the fight

1355
01:05:57,680 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: was all right, but I can't wait to see this one.

1356
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Speaker 3: It's like.

1357
01:06:02,040 --> 01:06:04,400
Speaker 1: It just it's like he gets here right here. Because

1358
01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,840
Speaker 1: you watch these guys, if you know how much pain

1359
01:06:06,920 --> 01:06:10,320
Speaker 1: they went through, like Barbosa, the amount of pain he

1360
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:13,880
Speaker 1: went through in that first round. Nobody could really you can't.

1361
01:06:14,240 --> 01:06:18,480
Speaker 1: You can't verbalize like he took an absolute beating in

1362
01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:22,240
Speaker 1: the first round, beating to death. He got beat to death,

1363
01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:27,040
Speaker 1: stayed up somehow, and Sadik Yusuf is not. I've trained

1364
01:06:27,080 --> 01:06:30,440
Speaker 1: with him, so to watch him take that from Sadik

1365
01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,880
Speaker 1: is why I said what I said, Because I'm trained

1366
01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 1: for Sidi.

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Speaker 3: I know what he is.

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Speaker 1: That guy is an animal. He's so strong, so durable,

1369
01:06:38,440 --> 01:06:42,200
Speaker 1: so so fast, and more than anything, the determination of

1370
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:46,680
Speaker 1: that squad team, Lloyd Irvin, their team, like you don't

1371
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:50,840
Speaker 1: break them, They're they're unbreakable. And so for Barbosa to

1372
01:06:50,920 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: go in there and go to five rounds knowing, all right,

1373
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 1: there's a good chance I'm not going to break this guy,

1374
01:06:55,320 --> 01:06:58,000
Speaker 1: but I'm going to use my experience and use my

1375
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:04,120
Speaker 1: basically win the chess match and do it that way.

1376
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:07,080
Speaker 1: It was just inspiring for me to watch thirty seven

1377
01:07:07,160 --> 01:07:10,880
Speaker 1: years old, and you know, Sadik's just going to keep

1378
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:13,480
Speaker 1: rising and probably become a champion. I really do see

1379
01:07:13,520 --> 01:07:15,880
Speaker 1: him beginning champion in the future. I think he's that good.

1380
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: It's just that to watch Barbosa do. That was really cool.

1381
01:07:20,800 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: It was fun to watch. I learned a lot from it.

1382
01:07:23,880 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 4: And Sadek's only thirty years of age. Sorry can flow right,

1383
01:07:26,720 --> 01:07:29,400
Speaker 4: And yeah he had lost to Arnold Allen previously in

1384
01:07:29,480 --> 01:07:32,480
Speaker 4: the UFC. Right, but the amount of knowledge and information

1385
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 4: now that he has from twenty five minutes with that's

1386
01:07:35,600 --> 01:07:37,640
Speaker 4: in Barbosa. Absolutely of resource.

1387
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Speaker 1: For twenty five minutes, right, First one, well, just think

1388
01:07:40,840 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 1: your first five round bout. You're going against Barbosa in

1389
01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 1: the main event. That's a title fight. This is the

1390
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,720
Speaker 1: thing that nobody's talking about these days, is that is

1391
01:07:48,800 --> 01:07:49,720
Speaker 1: a title fight.

1392
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:51,080
Speaker 3: With no title.

1393
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:53,280
Speaker 4: Tom.

1394
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Speaker 5: I know you're always looking at the up and coming

1395
01:07:55,960 --> 01:07:58,480
Speaker 5: talent at one hundred and thirty five pounds. Two great

1396
01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:01,720
Speaker 5: fights at hundred thirty five pounds Simon and Christian Rodriguez

1397
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,360
Speaker 5: Martinez and Janiez was awesome as well. Out of those

1398
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:11,200
Speaker 5: two guys that won, Christian Rodriguez or Jonathan Martinez, who's

1399
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 5: the guy that you think it's going to do more

1400
01:08:13,320 --> 01:08:14,000
Speaker 5: in that division.

1401
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,160
Speaker 4: Who's the guy to watch for you?

1402
01:08:16,160 --> 01:08:24,040
Speaker 1: Martinez, Gutierrez, Simon, All those guys are I'm sorry, Chris, sorry,

1403
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:30,040
Speaker 1: there's two Chris, Chrisz. Thank you you get where I'm at.

1404
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:34,479
Speaker 1: Between those three that that won. I think it's going

1405
01:08:34,560 --> 01:08:37,160
Speaker 1: to be a toss up between Jonathan and Chris. They

1406
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: fight extremely similar. You can tell that their training partners,

1407
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:47,400
Speaker 1: you know, right, they they're pretty much identical with their tactics.

1408
01:08:47,439 --> 01:08:49,799
Speaker 1: It's just that they have their own way of setting

1409
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:52,360
Speaker 1: it up. So that was cool to watch from that team.

1410
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,280
Speaker 1: When it comes to to, uh, excuse me, the other

1411
01:08:57,400 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 1: Chris Rodriguez, he just he can't keep missing weight and

1412
01:09:02,439 --> 01:09:03,759
Speaker 1: expect people to pay attention.

1413
01:09:04,840 --> 01:09:08,080
Speaker 4: Right, Yeah, no, I I started my fight breakdown with

1414
01:09:08,200 --> 01:09:10,640
Speaker 4: the weight miss and it wasn't one thirty six point eight,

1415
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 4: it was one hundred and forty pounds.

1416
01:09:12,320 --> 01:09:14,880
Speaker 1: He's really good, Yeah, but you got to make weight.

1417
01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 1: That five pounds kills me every time, Like kills me

1418
01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 1: that lit. If I don't have to lose that five pounds,

1419
01:09:20,120 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 1: I'll fight one forty five. Right, It's just fight one

1420
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:25,960
Speaker 1: forty five. If you can't lose it then, right, Because

1421
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing is it's discipline, and it's it's professional

1422
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,960
Speaker 1: to be disciplined, and if you're not disciplined, then you're

1423
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:32,680
Speaker 1: not professional.

1424
01:09:33,240 --> 01:09:35,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I agree. It's always interesting for me to

1425
01:09:35,960 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 4: hear you talk about the juxtaposition that you're in when

1426
01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:41,280
Speaker 4: it comes to calling fights of your bandam weight contemporaries,

1427
01:09:41,360 --> 01:09:43,320
Speaker 4: right as the guy who built this division as this

1428
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,400
Speaker 4: division's most decorated champion. Now, Ken Flow dealt with this

1429
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,920
Speaker 4: a little bit during his career where he was having

1430
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 4: to put over fellow lightweights and especially on MMA Live.

1431
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 4: He had to do it all the time, but he

1432
01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 4: wasn't always having to do it calling fight Like Jonathan

1433
01:09:57,600 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 4: Martinez is a guy who has asked for a fight

1434
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,200
Speaker 4: with you publicly, you know, and then you've got to

1435
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:04,400
Speaker 4: go on television and suck is dick for fifteen to

1436
01:10:04,400 --> 01:10:04,840
Speaker 4: twenty three.

1437
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 1: Thank you for kind of putting it in your own words,

1438
01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:12,880
Speaker 1: but you know, I kind of try to bob and

1439
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 1: we even slip and do all that more than any

1440
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,920
Speaker 1: other stuff that you're talking about. But when it comes

1441
01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:21,000
Speaker 1: down to that, you're not wrong. Like I've got to

1442
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: go on there and pretty much fluff this guy up

1443
01:10:23,280 --> 01:10:25,840
Speaker 1: for the entire fight, and I don't get to say

1444
01:10:27,000 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 1: anything that's real, because this is the thing that people

1445
01:10:30,080 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: don't really know about fighting, is you got the real self.

1446
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:34,559
Speaker 1: You got me the one you're talking to now, which

1447
01:10:34,600 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: the ego doesn't need to exist here. It really doesn't.

1448
01:10:37,240 --> 01:10:38,920
Speaker 1: I don't need it. I'm not competing. I'm not in

1449
01:10:38,960 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: a life in death scenario. When you put me into

1450
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:44,600
Speaker 1: a fight scenario, I become nothing but ego because that

1451
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,320
Speaker 1: is what's going to help me survive this scenario. Right now,

1452
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:49,720
Speaker 1: I have to be my ego to kill you or

1453
01:10:49,800 --> 01:10:52,479
Speaker 1: you will kill me. That being said, how do I

1454
01:10:52,600 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 1: find that balance in that seat and as a competitor

1455
01:10:56,439 --> 01:10:58,479
Speaker 1: while they're calling me out, while I know they don't

1456
01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,160
Speaker 1: they want to fight me. It's just part of the

1457
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,000
Speaker 1: job I get to you know, you get to work

1458
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: with It's it's quite a lesson for me every single time,

1459
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:09,320
Speaker 1: and I learn a lot from it and it's a

1460
01:11:09,400 --> 01:11:10,960
Speaker 1: gift to be able to be here. So that's how

1461
01:11:11,000 --> 01:11:12,960
Speaker 1: I look at it. To be able to support the

1462
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:17,160
Speaker 1: other fighters really honestly explain how good they are. I

1463
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,240
Speaker 1: do enjoy doing that, Like watching Chris Gutiraz explain the

1464
01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:22,400
Speaker 1: feints and the fakes in between on how he sets

1465
01:11:22,479 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 1: up his kicks. Jonathan Martinez able to put that inside

1466
01:11:26,439 --> 01:11:29,040
Speaker 1: kick and flawlessly throw it just off of faints and

1467
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,120
Speaker 1: then set up his hands from the kicks both of

1468
01:11:31,200 --> 01:11:34,760
Speaker 1: those guys do that. Watching you know, Chris Rodriguez be

1469
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,920
Speaker 1: able to stay in the pocket, not move really far.

1470
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,240
Speaker 1: Most guys in MMA take really jump, leap back really

1471
01:11:41,360 --> 01:11:43,920
Speaker 1: big out of the pocket when something gets thrown at him.

1472
01:11:44,880 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 1: When I watched Rodriguez, he made leaps and bounds in.

1473
01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:50,599
Speaker 1: He's like the boxers where you slip two centimeters out

1474
01:11:50,680 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 1: and then bop. He's clipping you and he's countering you.

1475
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,960
Speaker 1: So I'm watching these things of all these guys, and

1476
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,760
Speaker 1: what a gift to get to watch it, explain it,

1477
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 1: share it with the world that this is their skill

1478
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: set that makes them different. They're all in my weight class,

1479
01:12:05,240 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 1: but they're all completely different from me in every way.

1480
01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: I'll have different tools that make them the greatest fighters

1481
01:12:10,360 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 1: on Earth. And as a fan of the sport that

1482
01:12:14,960 --> 01:12:17,679
Speaker 1: I enjoy doing that, I enjoy watching that, I enjoy

1483
01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,479
Speaker 1: learning from these guys. These are all tools I can

1484
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,160
Speaker 1: learn from them, whether I want to admit.

1485
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,479
Speaker 4: It or not. Donald Cruz with us here on the

1486
01:12:23,479 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 4: Anakin Floran podcast. I just have two more questions, and

1487
01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,280
Speaker 4: I hope I'm not stepping out a turn. But when

1488
01:12:28,320 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 4: you hear Dom's answer there, it just speaks to how

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Speaker 4: much you've worked on yourself to put yourself in a

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Speaker 4: position to be filled with gratitude and to be able

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Speaker 4: to maturely handle that situation. You've obviously helped me with

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Speaker 4: my mental health in terms of leaning into the gratitude

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Speaker 4: and all of those things. But I thought that answer

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Speaker 4: in particular speaks to all the self work that you

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Speaker 4: have done. Before we get you out of here with

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Speaker 4: a question about your career, I just have to ask

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Speaker 4: you about this rematch that's coming up this weekend Islam

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Speaker 4: Kashev against Alexander Volkonowski for the UFC lightweight title. Because

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Speaker 4: you were in Perth, Western Australia earlier this year. You

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Speaker 4: called the first fight, and you seem to intimate during

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Speaker 4: the call that you felt like in a rematch, you

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01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,639
Speaker 4: not only suggested wisely that we were going to see

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Speaker 4: this again, but that you felt like Bolt could really

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01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:12,439
Speaker 4: weaponize cardio and pace in a second meeting. Now, he

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01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,080
Speaker 4: still might be able to do that, but he did

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Speaker 4: not have a full training camp for this fight. So

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Speaker 4: what are your thoughts with that type of theme in

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Speaker 4: your mind as we get ready for the rematch this weekend?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean, well, he's just coming off of that

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01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,360
Speaker 1: elbow surgery, right, yeah, arm surgery of some kind yep.

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Speaker 1: And do we have any information on how long ago

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Speaker 1: that was.

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Speaker 4: No, But he had a cut on his face that

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Speaker 4: was stitched up within the last like five weeks, which

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Speaker 4: suggests he's been doing something.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's Jeff that that also means he's not sparring

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01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,719
Speaker 1: so and it also means he's not wrestling. So cuts

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Speaker 1: also slowed down, so that his two that could mean

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01:13:47,120 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 1: two things, like the cut and the surgery tell me

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Speaker 1: two things that Yeah, you can train, but you're not

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Speaker 1: training the way you know you need to. Cardio is

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01:13:55,640 --> 01:13:59,040
Speaker 1: probably what he's doing. So I'm assuming that if he

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Speaker 1: stayed on the on the gas pedal like he seems

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Speaker 1: like you would, like you do when you're champion, you

1525
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 1: just stay in shape because you know they're going to

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01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,479
Speaker 1: give you the next best guy in the world. So

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Speaker 1: he's probably just stayed on the sprints stating superior cardio shape.

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Speaker 1: The problem is when you have surgery on elbows and cuts,

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01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:21,800
Speaker 1: you can't wrestle because it it will mess up the

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01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:25,040
Speaker 1: cut surgery. So if you're not wrestling, what's the one

1531
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:26,760
Speaker 1: thing you need to be able to do with with

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01:14:27,240 --> 01:14:29,760
Speaker 1: markechev Is wrestle, And there's only one way to get

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01:14:29,800 --> 01:14:32,320
Speaker 1: in shape for wrestling, and it's to wrestle. I just

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01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:34,840
Speaker 1: there just really is no other way. You can run

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01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:36,400
Speaker 1: as much as you want, you can lift as much

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01:14:36,439 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: you want. Those all supplement and help your performance while

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01:14:40,040 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 1: you're wrestling. But nothing nothing supplements conditioning like wrestling, just definitely.

1538
01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:49,920
Speaker 1: So that's what Markachev smashes everybody with.

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01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 3: He out wrestles them.

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Speaker 1: So the one gift that I gave to Volkanovski in

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01:14:54,840 --> 01:14:58,080
Speaker 1: the second meeting would have been cardio. He has to

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01:14:58,160 --> 01:15:00,640
Speaker 1: wrestle to have cardio, and he's been hurt, right, So

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm not saying you can't do it. We

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01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:06,160
Speaker 1: don't really know if he's been wrestling or not. There's

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01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 1: no actual fact evidence if I know that. For all

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01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:11,200
Speaker 1: I know, he wrestled anyways, right, and he's one hundred

1547
01:15:11,200 --> 01:15:15,000
Speaker 1: percent ready, But judging from my own experience of cuts

1548
01:15:15,240 --> 01:15:17,800
Speaker 1: and surgeries, I would say he's not wrestling that much

1549
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:25,599
Speaker 1: and that that does suffer the cardio example, which you'll

1550
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,360
Speaker 1: need he'll need to get. I got an animal with

1551
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: his cardio.

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Speaker 4: Already, right, All right, Well, I know you've been to

1553
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:34,479
Speaker 4: Abu Dhabi. You call Kabibnrmago metaw versus Dustin Pourier, but

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01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:36,760
Speaker 4: you will not be with us this weekend. I'll let

1555
01:15:36,800 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 4: you get out of here on this. So I know that. Uh,

1556
01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,519
Speaker 4: there's a lot of misinformation about Domina Cruz's birthday on

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:45,639
Speaker 4: the internet. But he was born March ninth, nineteen eighty five.

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Speaker 3: That's right, right, that's great, All right, that's great.

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01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:52,679
Speaker 4: So there's a UFC pay per view Saturday, March ninth,

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01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:56,840
Speaker 4: twenty twenty in Miami. Oh it's in Miami. I think

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01:15:56,840 --> 01:16:00,200
Speaker 4: he might be breaking some news. Well either way, I

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01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:04,280
Speaker 4: know sometimes we take your birthday off, right, but I

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01:16:04,520 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 4: just wanted to say that seems like a pretty good

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01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:09,719
Speaker 4: timeline maybe to come back on your thirty ninth birthday.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're not wrong. And what I'm a mineral vocal

1566
01:16:14,200 --> 01:16:16,360
Speaker 1: about it, because you know, I'm so tired of saying, oh,

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01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 1: I've been hurt, like it's just it gets old. So

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01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 1: I just don't say anything. I go away for a

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01:16:21,720 --> 01:16:23,479
Speaker 1: little while and shut up and just do my job.

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,880
Speaker 1: But now that I'm back and my shoulder is feeling

1571
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,880
Speaker 1: a little bit better, I did the stem cells stem

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01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:32,960
Speaker 1: cells at CPI really did make a huge difference. I

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01:16:33,000 --> 01:16:36,160
Speaker 1: couldn't throw certain punches, and now I'm throwing them again.

1574
01:16:36,240 --> 01:16:38,719
Speaker 1: So I'll keep adding to the pyramid and getting building

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01:16:38,760 --> 01:16:41,200
Speaker 1: that body up. And then yeah, that sounds like that

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01:16:41,280 --> 01:16:43,479
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like a bad idea for me. That's that's

1577
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 1: a target and I am working towards another fight.

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Speaker 4: Guess all right, Well, if you want more from Domina

1579
01:16:48,200 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 4: Cruz at Domina Cruz on Instagram, you can check out

1580
01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,920
Speaker 4: all this merchandise and everything going on with the greatest

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Speaker 4: band of weight of all time. We appreciate your time, brother,

1582
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 4: and I look forward to seeing you in a couple weeks. Man,

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01:16:58,000 --> 01:16:59,080
Speaker 4: thank you so much for hopping on.

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01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,040
Speaker 1: Thank sure you guys have a good day.

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01:17:01,640 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 4: Sid dom there. He is former two time UFC bantamwaight champion.

1586
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,280
Speaker 4: He always insightful. Domina Cruz, it is so interesting breaking

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01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:11,599
Speaker 4: down these UFC two ninety four fights, and I'm gonna

1588
01:17:11,600 --> 01:17:13,439
Speaker 4: stop it down there because we have another show coming

1589
01:17:13,520 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 4: up later this week. But there's so many unknowns and

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01:17:16,360 --> 01:17:18,160
Speaker 4: I thought dom hit on a lot of them when

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01:17:18,240 --> 01:17:21,679
Speaker 4: it comes to hamzat Chimayev. Right, we know a little

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01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:23,639
Speaker 4: bit more we have more intel because of the Gilbert

1593
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:26,479
Speaker 4: Burns fight. We always knew Hamza Chimi have wanted this

1594
01:17:26,680 --> 01:17:29,000
Speaker 4: war while asking you shall receive he got it against

1595
01:17:29,000 --> 01:17:32,559
Speaker 4: Gilbert Burns, albeit a little bit of an undersized welterweight. Right,

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Speaker 4: But what exactly do we have here in the twelve

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Speaker 4: on Oh hamzat Chimai If you're getting more answers this

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Speaker 4: Saturday night live on pay per view and we're right

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Speaker 4: UFC two ninety four. Thank you to our guest Ray

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Speaker 4: and we will talk to you in seventy two hours

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Speaker 4: until then you're fucking later.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, are you showing that.

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Speaker 4: In the Boston.

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Speaker 6: Every time I got a first up, wake at these

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Speaker 6: I'm a planned say look, wait then make campettes look

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Speaker 6: like the only ranches the boy you plot the only

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Speaker 6: color on the canvas. And I don't mean it's like

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Speaker 6: the tactically got to beat out of God. The street

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Speaker 1: And I'm the Nuclear Store.

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Speaker 4: He j wants to get in the burd and get

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Speaker 4: it in the murd Edinburgh, making the you want to

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